A small hidden note on Yi Archers and Yi Marksmen that I found out after this video that both are able to fire whilst moving, which makes them significantly better than I thought they were. Not the most important trait to have, but it means their melee stats become even more important as they almost get a flanking role of sorts.
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Should probably edit that into the video at the end there bud. Are there other ranged units that can fire while moving? I find them useful when chasing down fleeing enemies.
Cao Cao: if we go through on that bridge we can capture liu bei Zhang Fei: Just through on my dead body Cao Cao: you can't just hold my entire army alone Zhang Fei: hold my wine
Don't even joke. China being one of the oldest and still existing civilizations, they invented a shit ton of stuff. They say football (soccer) was invented by the English but China was already kicking a ball around thousands of years ago.
@@kchocobo598 "China invented everything and is number 1 country" *this post paid for by the People's Republic of China p.s don't ask about Tiananmen Square*
MrOrdgar It is a joke , Liu bei got beaten by cao cap an left his infant son behind, zhao yunsaved the son by risking his life to dive into cao cao ‘s army 7 times and recused him, he try to throw the baby to the ground because it is the reason that caused zhao yun to risk his life.
One thing I've found is that Liu Bei is the character that can best get away with capturing the Emperor. Capturing the Emperor makes the Han your vassal, but annexing Han territory becomes trickier. Where Liu Bei's special annexation mechanic allows you to keep the Han as a vassal, but still annex their territory.
Hey SmartDonkey! I think I know why the archers are good in melee. The three generals you start with have very low cunning, meaning low ammo. I think the archers are expected to run out of ammo quickly, so rather than make them useless after that happens, then you can just send them into melee instead of just throwing them away for no reason. That was probably the idea behind them.
Liu Bei is nuts! I've won 3 battles on little to no forces left only because his insane morale buffs kept my guys in the fight while Zhang Fei and Guan Yu killed all of their generals and hammered/anvil-ed them LOL
I really liked your Shogun 2 Overview videos so it's awesome to see you doing the same thing for Three Kingdoms! My vote is for Cao Cao or Sun Jian next.
@MrSmartDonkeyLP Great video mate - definitely one of the most cerebral total war players on a campaign map. Just a suggestion but your channel might benefit from more reviews and making use of that strong analytical mindset.
Wow, this is the pre-launch content I really wanted to see! Great work man. Would love to see Cao Cao or Sun Jian next, but with quality like this I'd be happy to see anything.
Yi archers are great imo! Other archers become useless once they run out of ammo, even the more heavily armored ones. Yi archers on the otherhand can function as a flanking unit and could actually deal a good amount of damage doing so. As for the militia upkeep, it’s more of a mid/late game bonus when you have many army slots. I like having high tier units on a few “attacker” armies and the rest stay with high level militia, functioning as defensive militia armies.
It’s a nice sentiment and idea, but even with multiple dread stacks there’s no nice way that I’ve found to confederate other factions in the early game with Liu Bei, which kind of nullifies the benefits of even having that ability from start.
Yi archers and marksmen are great for scoring heroic victories if you're fighting a numerically superior force. Have them hide in the woods and use your legendary heroes to kite enemy units and gank enemy generals until they are exhausted with low morale. Then kite the enemy to your hidden archers and watch the enemy melt.
Honestly, I've found in my current Cao Cao campaign that my archers run out of ammo in almost every battle, so being decent in melee might be worthwhile to me just to make them still be useful.
Since in the Romance story line, Liu Bei is supposed to get help from Zhuge Liang (and maybe Pang Tong if CA added them?) who are great strategists, and maybe there might be good synergy there with the Yi Archers?
You absolute lad. Somehow I've not come across your videos before despite following a lot of TW youtubers. Really enjoying the content, currently watching your part two of Liu Bei campaign. Subscribing for sure.@@MrSmartDonkeyLP
After a couple of playtests I found out a couple of things about liu bei 1st during the conflict with Cao Cao who I would recommend to completely destroy him there is good chance that xiahu dun , hiaxu yuan or lady bian will join you (don't bother with bian she can be a pain to deal with) 2nd after you destroy Cao Cao declare war against yuan shao (if you refuse his deals makes it quite likely that he will declare war but he will take time to come at you) 3rd if you recruit zhang yian don't put him in and administrator position (he has a trait that boosts corruption if I remember correct ) 4th after you confederate tao qian don't expect any other confederations liu bao especially can be a pain 5th marry liu bei to the daughter of liu dai she is a commander and she liu bei like each other (pretty much guarantee happened in every playthtrough) on side note 1 if you want sun ren to join adopt guan yu and zhang fei or ma Cao if you have him then marry her to any of them (both work) side note 2 if you want sun ce I got no idea other than just pray that sun jian doesn't die (it happens a lot these days) feedback appreciated and if anyone has a guide for getting the 5 tiger generals thank you in advance
As Liu Bei is not married at the start, I wonder what the best marriage options are. Are their any nearby lords with possible marriages? How soon do you want to get married so you can have a kid and a clearer heir?
I don't think they've yet fixed the "confederate with Liu Biao" event. I've never seen it happen. That and there're still occasions where the Zhao Yun event doesn't trigger.
Yep, still buggy as hell. I enjoy the game but alot of the diplomatic glitches can make it a pain. I find Liu Bei's campaign always the hardest and ALWAYS turns into a goddamn slog where I have to do every battle for nearly the first 50 turns. Sun Jian or Cao is by far so goddamn easy or Emperor Liu- crushing the Yellow turbans wonders why he actually failed in real life.. oh wait nvm
Unfortunately not planning on doing any until the game is fully done with no more updates or DLC because the ones I have done are already somewhat outdated due to the updates and DLC released up til now.
Liu's unique units sounded indeed pretty terrible. I see the point of melee gunners because they can't shoot overhead and it's not easy to reposition them shoot from enemy's flanks without exposing them to enemy cavalry so melee after close quarter contact with enemy frontline instead of skirmishing retreat makes sense. However, for archers on the other hand, you want them to be constantly shooting throughout the battle or until they ran out of arrows, and I doubt these increased melee stats will be enough to allow them to handle cavs on their own in melee. I don't think CA will make another obviously OP unit like Foot Samurai ever again, so I doubt these Shu archers will be that...
Are the general stats shown in Romance mode or Records mode? And do they differ when changing mode? And would love to see Ma Teng next (not a popular vote..)
One thing I have to comment about Yi Archer/Marksman is that they sounds like almost the copy of Foot Samurai from Shogun 2 Rise of the Samurai. And Foot Samurai is extremely overpowered there to the point that even if you config them for archery by recruiting them in the Province with Craft instead of Blacksmith they still inflicting heavy losses in melee when compared to Bow Samurai or Bow Warrior Monk in vanilla Shogun 2 game. I'm suspecting that Yi Archer/Marksman will not be that far off from RoTS Foot Samurai in practical performance.
Nah, this is a completely different story, their melee stats are good compared to other archers but compared to actual melee units at the same cost, not so much. They only have a little over half the health too so they still die pretty fast. Foot Samurai in RotS was a melee unit with a bow, Yi Archers and Marksman are just archers with slightly better melee stats.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP I guess that's a good thing. RotS campaign eventually boils down to Foot Samurai spamfest in the end game as other units are just meh there. So this should balance things out in my opinion. Thanks for clarification.
With Liu Bei not starting in control of a province, is it feasible to choose another place in the game to establish yourself or does the supply mechanic limit the distance you can go?
Is it possible to introduce the characters who will join Liu Bei’s faction in the mid game by events? Like Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun? Make even the Repeat crossbow units from the mid game?
You mean in a separate video? Perhaps, I'll certainly be doing unit overviews at some point so I'll be showcasing all units, in regards to the Legendary characters, I didn't include them in this video as they're not a part of your faction from the start, but I could showcase them in a separate video sometime, I have plenty of plans for videos like this, don't worry.
Haha I wish, making this video probably took about 12-15 hours from writing the script to recording and editing it all together, and that’s not including playing the game to actually learn what I need to know make an informed video. I will certainly be doing more of these, but it’ll take a few weeks/months to get them all done. I will try to do another one before release though.
If I had lived back then I think I would be a cross between this guy and Cao Cao, if that makes sense. I like to be morally good and forthright but I’m not afraid to get my hands a little dirty for the greater good (or I admit in occasional lapses of selfishness)
This ain't Warhammer Lothern Sea Guard dude, cav still rekt em and for their price the enemy can get 1 archer and 1 melee unit. Although I think they would be great when put on wall, can shoot and repel all climbers.
yes the game is good with max unit size and the campaign map ia the best of any total war if you ask me it runs smooth no bugs whatsoever on my end the only turn off for me is i find the graphic are kinda crappy but the game is very fun so i can live with that
Probably have the best generals at the time. Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, Huang Zhong, and Zhuge Liang. Fucking Guan Yu is still worshipped to this day.
Oh sorry, no she is unlocked. I got confused, so many people have been asking me about Zhuge Liang that when I saw Zheng Jiang I read it as Zhuge Liang instead. That's why I said "him" as well :P. I'll definitely be overviewing her at some point as well. Cao Cao is up next.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP If you wanna get Zhuge Liang you have to let his friend Xu Shu leave you to see his mother (you know it's a lie made by him to join other factions) at around 208bc which will make him suggest you to both Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang. Its detailed story can be googled.
MrSmartDonkeyLP Thanks! Any chance you’ll do some sort of thorough campaign infrastracture guide for Three Kingdoms? I remember nailing it down in Shogun 2 took me quite a bit longer than getting good at battles and campaign movement tricks/strategy. If there was a guide like this, it could’ve saved me a lot of time with a calculator :P
Trace Rawls I had the same question. But I just got him join up during my early game around my 20 turn. I don’t know the exact reason though, because I played Liubei in other play through for 63 turns but he never shows up yet.
Aaaah, gotcha, yeah, I figured I should have some Chinese music rather than Japanese music in the background for these, took me a while to find a good track but I think this one is perfect.
Of course, just make sure to change the currency to USD, otherwise it'll give you a EU key. Changing the currency will change the website link, but as long as you use my code I still get my commission and you still get your discount, so that's all fine.
And most useless as Liu Bei. With every other lords, it's cool the control the Han because you can annex them without war. With Liu Bei, you can do it without controlling them.
Calling Liu Bei poor is a historical misconception. He was poor when compared to all of his high born or the extremely wealthy peers (the Han version of Billionaire heirs) of the time. However, he was never subjected to living standard anywhere remotely close to peasantry. His wealthy highborn uncles regularly helped out his household expenses and procured and paid his education at Han China equivalent of Harvard and Yale. His household finance was basically equivalent of a disgraced aristocrat who eloped with some commoner but still gets handouts from his principle family discreetly all the time. Again, his upbring was only poor when compared to highborn lords with significant landholdings. He might perceive himself as a commoner due to the inferiority complex developed as a downtrodden Aristocrat lack of economic security growing up. Can't imagine he get many nice things said about him and his family growing up in schools for highborn lads. He basically got the "Jon Snow" childhood and, as a result, developed a "Jon Snow" mentality. The principle house of Liu Bei is the Imperial House by the way and his great grandfather is a emperor, so how poor can he truly be really...
Im dumb how do I see what units fall into the reduce upkeep and which doesnt... like everytime with these games they same a name but mot all the units can easily be identified as using that rank... for example I would have thought that the yi marksman and militia archers are literally the same type of warriors but one is an elite the other isnt.. how the heck am I suppose to know that yi doesnt make part of this but the others somehow do.. Is there a way I can see what each faction and each unit benefit from these type of bonuses without being a military hierachy genius?
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP thanks man.. great videos very informative.. funny enough that answer sounds more like im dumb.. i thought I had too look for every unit that counts as infantry or whatver.. sigh.. lol thx.. Hey btw are you going to make more faction overviews? I would love one about dong zhou :) hartelijk bedank!
How about the faction special buildings? On the other hand, I think it should be proper to talk about Zhuge Liang as Liu Bei has an event that lets him join for sure.
So basically you tell me if i keep guan yu and zhang fei together they will cancel each others weakness fei will beat regular guys while yu keeps him safe from officers
Yeah, I thought about that too when I was recording that. Not really as big a deal in a strategy game with thousands of men compared to an RPG with only a handful though.
A small hidden note on Yi Archers and Yi Marksmen that I found out after this video that both are able to fire whilst moving, which makes them significantly better than I thought they were. Not the most important trait to have, but it means their melee stats become even more important as they almost get a flanking role of sorts.
at to game you need paypal account
@@xihangyang You can also use a credit card, I just checked.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP mine paypal account was empty. So can not pay for it. Yes creditcard i do not have. We in thr netherland use ideaal payment where this webside do not have. So buy it on steam use ideaal payment. Need to change want to buy it on that webside.
I'm from the Netherlands too, plenty of people still have a credit card. Either way, you can put money from your bank on Paypal, but it's up to you.
Should probably edit that into the video at the end there bud. Are there other ranged units that can fire while moving? I find them useful when chasing down fleeing enemies.
Cao Cao: if we go through on that bridge we can capture liu bei
Zhang Fei: Just through on my dead body
Cao Cao: you can't just hold my entire army alone
Zhang Fei: hold my wine
Remember that Liu Bei invented American Football when he scored the very first touchdown with his own kid.
Don't even joke. China being one of the oldest and still existing civilizations, they invented a shit ton of stuff. They say football (soccer) was invented by the English but China was already kicking a ball around thousands of years ago.
K Chocobo go fuck yourself
@@kchocobo598 "China invented everything and is number 1 country" *this post paid for by the People's Republic of China p.s don't ask about Tiananmen Square*
@@kchocobo598 It's a joke. Liu Bei threw his son, Liu Shan, to the ground in the battle of Changban.
这就是个笑话，说的是刘备在长坂坡之战的时候扔刘禅的典故。
MrOrdgar It is a joke , Liu bei got beaten by cao cap an left his infant son behind, zhao yunsaved the son by risking his life to dive into cao cao ‘s army 7 times and recused him, he try to throw the baby to the ground because it is the reason that caused zhao yun to risk his life.
He and his brothers look exactly like in "Three Kingdoms" show. That's so cool!
Same for Yuan Shoa, but Cao Cao and Sun Jian look different. :(
One thing I've found is that Liu Bei is the character that can best get away with capturing the Emperor. Capturing the Emperor makes the Han your vassal, but annexing Han territory becomes trickier. Where Liu Bei's special annexation mechanic allows you to keep the Han as a vassal, but still annex their territory.
Nice overview of Liu Bei!
Would love to see Cao Cao or Gongsun Zan next
Hey SmartDonkey! I think I know why the archers are good in melee. The three generals you start with have very low cunning, meaning low ammo. I think the archers are expected to run out of ammo quickly, so rather than make them useless after that happens, then you can just send them into melee instead of just throwing them away for no reason. That was probably the idea behind them.
So basically some short of skirmish-flanking infantry? Yes I think it could in hammer and anvil tactics or as reserves
That and wearing armor increases survivability in ranged duels and not just melee.
Liu Bei is nuts! I've won 3 battles on little to no forces left only because his insane morale buffs kept my guys in the fight while Zhang Fei and Guan Yu killed all of their generals and hammered/anvil-ed them LOL
If you liked this video and want to see more of Liu Bei, check out my Let's Play here: ua-cam.com/video/Rl_N5Yz8EpQ/v-deo.html
I really liked your Shogun 2 Overview videos so it's awesome to see you doing the same thing for Three Kingdoms!
My vote is for Cao Cao or Sun Jian next.
Started my first campaign as Liu Bei and no idea where to start. This was very helpful and will save me about 5 restarts! Thanks!
You're welcome, glad to be able to help.
@MrSmartDonkeyLP Great video mate - definitely one of the most cerebral total war players on a campaign map. Just a suggestion but your channel might benefit from more reviews and making use of that strong analytical mindset.
Wow, this is the pre-launch content I really wanted to see! Great work man. Would love to see Cao Cao or Sun Jian next, but with quality like this I'd be happy to see anything.
Seems a lot of people want to see Cao Cao so I'll try to get him done before the game releases too.
I think it'd be amazing if we could get these overviews for every starting faction!
I will certainly be making them but it’ll take a few weeks/months to get done. I’ll try to get one more done before release though.
Great job MrsmartDONGkey
Huzzah! I've been waiting for this. I'd love to see Cao Cao next, or Dong Zhou.
Still amazed me that you only have 56k subscribers, yet have been around for sometime now.... far too underrated imho. Keep up the good work MrSD!
Thank you sir, it seems Three Kingdoms is definitely helping with the growth, hope that keeps going. :D
I love your Clan Overviews for Shogun 2 so I'm more than happy to watch your Faction Overviews now
Pls do Cao Cao next
Cao Cao will indeed be next, hopefully up by Wednesday, started working on it today, writing the script as we speak actually.
Yi archers are great imo! Other archers become useless once they run out of ammo, even the more heavily armored ones. Yi archers on the otherhand can function as a flanking unit and could actually deal a good amount of damage doing so.
As for the militia upkeep, it’s more of a mid/late game bonus when you have many army slots. I like having high tier units on a few “attacker” armies and the rest stay with high level militia, functioning as defensive militia armies.
I too have changed my mind about Yi Archers now that I have used them more, they're actually incredibly strong.
Yi Marksmen are even better, they are basically the Guards Infantry from Empire Total War except with bows and arrows.
It’s a nice sentiment and idea, but even with multiple dread stacks there’s no nice way that I’ve found to confederate other factions in the early game with Liu Bei, which kind of nullifies the benefits of even having that ability from start.
HELL YEAH 😂 FINALLY MORE OVERVIEW OTHER THAN SHOGUN 2
Yi archers and marksmen are great for scoring heroic victories if you're fighting a numerically superior force. Have them hide in the woods and use your legendary heroes to kite enemy units and gank enemy generals until they are exhausted with low morale. Then kite the enemy to your hidden archers and watch the enemy melt.
Amazing overview and amazing work SmartDonkey! Would love to see more analysis on 3k campaign and warlords :)
Honestly, I've found in my current Cao Cao campaign that my archers run out of ammo in almost every battle, so being decent in melee might be worthwhile to me just to make them still be useful.
It makes me happy you are back at doing faction overviews!
Another one coming up tonight!
Since in the Romance story line, Liu Bei is supposed to get help from Zhuge Liang (and maybe Pang Tong if CA added them?) who are great strategists, and maybe there might be good synergy there with the Yi Archers?
Shouldn't Zhuge Liang use his own repeating crossbows, since it is named after him and legend has it that he invented it?
@@LibeliumDragonfly hmmmmm yeah good point.... kinda makes the Yi Archers kinda useless.... unless you could upgrade them to Yi X-bowmen?
Let others wage war, do the master of trade next. (Kong Rong)
A recent game made me hate that man.
The main characters look like guys from red cliff. Like eerily similar to that of the actors faces from red cliff
Fantastic video, I’m torn who to start as so looking forward to you doing more of these. I’d like to see Cao Cao then Sun Jian next
Cao Cao is likely next, so you're in luck!
You absolute lad. Somehow I've not come across your videos before despite following a lot of TW youtubers. Really enjoying the content, currently watching your part two of Liu Bei campaign. Subscribing for sure.@@MrSmartDonkeyLP
Thank you sir, glad you're enjoying the videos and welcome to the channel.
Next, do an overview of my DONG zhuo
Shoulda mentioned the sleeping dragon zhuge Liang that Liu bei gets later on in the campaign
I'm SOOOO HYPED goddamit!
Roman expedition force from Attila TW and Chosokabe+Oda+Tokugawa from Shogun 2 TW= Liu Bei
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Great video. Cao Cao or Kong Rong would be awesome for the next overview
After a couple of playtests I found out a couple of things about liu bei 1st during the conflict with Cao Cao who I would recommend to completely destroy him there is good chance that xiahu dun , hiaxu yuan or lady bian will join you (don't bother with bian she can be a pain to deal with) 2nd after you destroy Cao Cao declare war against yuan shao (if you refuse his deals makes it quite likely that he will declare war but he will take time to come at you) 3rd if you recruit zhang yian don't put him in and administrator position (he has a trait that boosts corruption if I remember correct ) 4th after you confederate tao qian don't expect any other confederations liu bao especially can be a pain 5th marry liu bei to the daughter of liu dai she is a commander and she liu bei like each other (pretty much guarantee happened in every playthtrough) on side note 1 if you want sun ren to join adopt guan yu and zhang fei or ma Cao if you have him then marry her to any of them (both work) side note 2 if you want sun ce I got no idea other than just pray that sun jian doesn't die (it happens a lot these days) feedback appreciated and if anyone has a guide for getting the 5 tiger generals thank you in advance
As Liu Bei is not married at the start, I wonder what the best marriage options are. Are their any nearby lords with possible marriages? How soon do you want to get married so you can have a kid and a clearer heir?
il be going for Sun Ren but it will take time
@@lujoviste Well, he did marry her in the Romance
SSX
i married the yung feil or whatever she gave me 2 sons so far so im happy about that
I don't think they've yet fixed the "confederate with Liu Biao" event. I've never seen it happen. That and there're still occasions where the Zhao Yun event doesn't trigger.
Yep, still buggy as hell. I enjoy the game but alot of the diplomatic glitches can make it a pain. I find Liu Bei's campaign always the hardest and ALWAYS turns into a goddamn slog where I have to do every battle for nearly the first 50 turns. Sun Jian or Cao is by far so goddamn easy or Emperor Liu- crushing the Yellow turbans wonders why he actually failed in real life.. oh wait nvm
Can u make a detail videos on the children's of legendary character when marry them together
When are you going to do your other faction overviews for this game? I've found these overviews to be the best ones out there for this game!
Unfortunately not planning on doing any until the game is fully done with no more updates or DLC because the ones I have done are already somewhat outdated due to the updates and DLC released up til now.
Love your vids man! Keep up the good work.
The wait... It'll soon be over...
10:17 Archer that excel at meelee combat? Where have I heard that story before? Archer class is really made of Archer
Dynasty Warriors: Total War
Yes.
I was thinking the same thing when this was announced
Yes! Im going to watch all of these!
Oathsworn is no heartbreaking, only gets stronger when your brothers have fallen, the mangekyou is strong in this one
More please! Love your videos
Liu's unique units sounded indeed pretty terrible. I see the point of melee gunners because they can't shoot overhead and it's not easy to reposition them shoot from enemy's flanks without exposing them to enemy cavalry so melee after close quarter contact with enemy frontline instead of skirmishing retreat makes sense. However, for archers on the other hand, you want them to be constantly shooting throughout the battle or until they ran out of arrows, and I doubt these increased melee stats will be enough to allow them to handle cavs on their own in melee. I don't think CA will make another obviously OP unit like Foot Samurai ever again, so I doubt these Shu archers will be that...
If the game was set in late Ming period, then the Line Infantry with smoothbore muskets would benefit from the increased melee stats.
really like this video keep em coming
Next one is up later today.
Went from a shoemaker to an emperor.
Are the general stats shown in Romance mode or Records mode? And do they differ when changing mode?
And would love to see Ma Teng next (not a popular vote..)
Romance mode and they do differ indeed, basically a lot lower on Records mode as there is a bodyguard to make up for it.
Do Dong Zhou next
The graphics are just gorgeous. I'm in tears.
One thing I have to comment about Yi Archer/Marksman is that they sounds like almost the copy of Foot Samurai from Shogun 2 Rise of the Samurai. And Foot Samurai is extremely overpowered there to the point that even if you config them for archery by recruiting them in the Province with Craft instead of Blacksmith they still inflicting heavy losses in melee when compared to Bow Samurai or Bow Warrior Monk in vanilla Shogun 2 game. I'm suspecting that Yi Archer/Marksman will not be that far off from RoTS Foot Samurai in practical performance.
Nah, this is a completely different story, their melee stats are good compared to other archers but compared to actual melee units at the same cost, not so much. They only have a little over half the health too so they still die pretty fast. Foot Samurai in RotS was a melee unit with a bow, Yi Archers and Marksman are just archers with slightly better melee stats.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP I guess that's a good thing. RotS campaign eventually boils down to Foot Samurai spamfest in the end game as other units are just meh there. So this should balance things out in my opinion. Thanks for clarification.
With Liu Bei not starting in control of a province, is it feasible to choose another place in the game to establish yourself or does the supply mechanic limit the distance you can go?
It’s technically possible, but you do miss out on those early mission rewards.
Is it possible to introduce the characters who will join Liu Bei’s faction in the mid game by events? Like Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun? Make even the Repeat crossbow units from the mid game?
You mean in a separate video? Perhaps, I'll certainly be doing unit overviews at some point so I'll be showcasing all units, in regards to the Legendary characters, I didn't include them in this video as they're not a part of your faction from the start, but I could showcase them in a separate video sometime, I have plenty of plans for videos like this, don't worry.
MrSmartDonkeyLP Thanks for your reply! That’s great! The overview is already good enough!
What about other legendry lord man like Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun they are part of his faction....
They’re not at the start of the campaign.
Zhao Yun is following Gongsun Zan, as he would historically.
Please do this for all 11 factions before the game comes out.
Haha I wish, making this video probably took about 12-15 hours from writing the script to recording and editing it all together, and that’s not including playing the game to actually learn what I need to know make an informed video. I will certainly be doing more of these, but it’ll take a few weeks/months to get them all done. I will try to do another one before release though.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP Okay, then i vote for the big three. Cao Cao next please. Then Sun Jian.
too late
If I had lived back then I think I would be a cross between this guy and Cao Cao, if that makes sense. I like to be morally good and forthright but I’m not afraid to get my hands a little dirty for the greater good (or I admit in occasional lapses of selfishness)
A melee archer? Really? I guess you don't have to worry about some infantry flanking them, I guess.
This ain't Warhammer Lothern Sea Guard dude, cav still rekt em and for their price the enemy can get 1 archer and 1 melee unit.
Although I think they would be great when put on wall, can shoot and repel all climbers.
@@vietnamabc2290 Why do you think I specifically said 'infantry flanking'? The stats clearly state that they're weak to cav, you know.
Well, Chosokabe clan from Shogun 2 has similar units Oda's Bow Ashigaru has the same buffs as well.
Seeing how ammo is going to run out fast....
No army composition like in the Shogun 2 overview?
I wanted to chose Cao Cao but my GF insist that LIU BEI should be my choice since hes very loved in China :D She's Chinese,
Waiting for my great lord- Cao Cao
Hope the discount still works! Great overview.
Yup, always works, it's just a store that I'm affiliated with. You can purchase whatever you want whenever you want with my code.
Sun jian keeps dying in my Liu Bei campaign, and I also don’t see Sun Ce later. is there a way to avoid that?
They're events that happened in history, it's random though, doesn't always happen. Best way to avoid it is by playing as Sun Jian. :P
That dude at 9:20 pulled off a Neymar
Hahaha, he went for the throat when no-one was even near him, who was he trying to get sent off?!
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP I think he was trying to avoid humiliation by faking an injury !
This game look so sick. Im into it now
I tought Liu Bei's militia was completely free of upkeept.
Yeah, as B Jiang said. They nerfed it but it’s still very strong.
@B Jiang Ok thank you
Nice overview.
Dear MrSmartDonkey, do you recommend this game for hard Shogun 2 fan ?
I'm a hardcore Shogun 2 fan and I'm loving it, so yes.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP Thx man 😉
yes the game is good with max unit size and the campaign map ia the best of any total war if you ask me
it runs smooth no bugs whatsoever on my end
the only turn off for me is i find the graphic are kinda crappy but the game is very fun so i can live with that
Thx guys for feedback. Iam playing still and love it. Its much better optimised then Attila. Prefer Japanese history but i still like it.
Probably have the best generals at the time. Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, Huang Zhong, and Zhuge Liang. Fucking Guan Yu is still worshipped to this day.
Man 194 been such a pain in the ass, get two commandery’s and now surrounded by Zheng Jiang, Cao Cao, Yuan Shao and Yuan Shu…
HeLp! mE!!
Lol
Kong Rong for next leader
Does Guan Yu get Lu Bu's Red Hare?
Liu Bei is the most virtuous baby dropper in history.
Babies love being dropped by him.
I think Zheng Jiang deserves a review by you, mate.
Perhaps once I finally acquire him in my campaign.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP Oh, interesting. I thought the Bandit Queen would be unlocked from the start. Something to aim for then once the game unlocks :)
Oh sorry, no she is unlocked. I got confused, so many people have been asking me about Zhuge Liang that when I saw Zheng Jiang I read it as Zhuge Liang instead. That's why I said "him" as well :P.
I'll definitely be overviewing her at some point as well. Cao Cao is up next.
Well that makes it all more clear now XD
Thanks for clearing that up!
... and I still would love to see her summary :p Keep up the great work!
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP If you wanna get Zhuge Liang you have to let his friend Xu Shu leave you to see his mother (you know it's a lie made by him to join other factions) at around 208bc which will make him suggest you to both Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang. Its detailed story can be googled.
How about zhugeliang? U haven't unlocked him?
You don’t start with him, you don’t unlock him, he can just appear throughout the campaign.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP in liu bei's campaign right? ^^ looking forward to see you get him
I would like to see Cao Cao next
Very helpful review, would love one of Sun Jian!
Yuan Shu next pretty please :)
Can you do a dlc overview for three kingdoms?
There's still more DLC coming so perhaps in the future once it's all out.
do sun jian, cao cao, or the big dong next plz
song is so amazing
Definitely, link in the description if you want to hear the original.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP thank so much didn't notice that
Cao Cao overview next please!
Many people voting for Cao Cao so that'll likely be the next one.
So they change liu Bei upkeep cost first they said no upkeep but now they say 50 percent still a lot to me
Yeah, used to be 100%, but that was a little too overpowered, still very strong though.
I think I know the answer, but: are unique Yi units still available for requirements once Liu Bei is dead?
I’m actually not 100% sure, but I do believe so.
MrSmartDonkeyLP Thanks! Any chance you’ll do some sort of thorough campaign infrastracture guide for Three Kingdoms? I remember nailing it down in Shogun 2 took me quite a bit longer than getting good at battles and campaign movement tricks/strategy. If there was a guide like this, it could’ve saved me a lot of time with a calculator :P
That Liu Bei guy looks like Matt Barnes
does Zhao Yun eventually join Liu Bei on his own or does it have to be a satisfaction thing?
Trace Rawls I had the same question. But I just got him join up during my early game around my 20 turn. I don’t know the exact reason though, because I played Liubei in other play through for 63 turns but he never shows up yet.
joins on turns 8-28 randomly, after any battle. Might not join at all as it is all rng
Is it just me but that music change struck me
Music change?
MrSmartDonkeyLP I clicked on the video expecting the shogun 2 clan overview music and heard that lol, i like it though
Aaaah, gotcha, yeah, I figured I should have some Chinese music rather than Japanese music in the background for these, took me a while to find a good track but I think this one is perfect.
MrSmartDonkeyLP yea, the music is perfect, love you’re vids btw you made me love the total war franchise
If I use your discount key. Can I use the game in the US under steam?
Of course, just make sure to change the currency to USD, otherwise it'll give you a EU key. Changing the currency will change the website link, but as long as you use my code I still get my commission and you still get your discount, so that's all fine.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP okay
Guan Yu starts at level 100 thank you
Can you rush the Han Capital w your starting stack and win or not?
It would be very difficult.
And most useless as Liu Bei. With every other lords, it's cool the control the Han because you can annex them without war. With Liu Bei, you can do it without controlling them.
Oh I had been told 2games only worked in Britain. So it does it work in the US?
Yeah, just change the currency to USD in the top left, or click the "If you're from outside of EU, click here".
Buying it today then with the code 🤘🤘 great vid too donkey!
Thank you sir, hope you enjoy the game, and more of these videos are in the works, currently writing the script for the Cao Cao faction overview.
Calling Liu Bei poor is a historical misconception. He was poor when compared to all of his high born or the extremely wealthy peers (the Han version of Billionaire heirs) of the time. However, he was never subjected to living standard anywhere remotely close to peasantry. His wealthy highborn uncles regularly helped out his household expenses and procured and paid his education at Han China equivalent of Harvard and Yale. His household finance was basically equivalent of a disgraced aristocrat who eloped with some commoner but still gets handouts from his principle family discreetly all the time. Again, his upbring was only poor when compared to highborn lords with significant landholdings. He might perceive himself as a commoner due to the inferiority complex developed as a downtrodden Aristocrat lack of economic security growing up. Can't imagine he get many nice things said about him and his family growing up in schools for highborn lads. He basically got the "Jon Snow" childhood and, as a result, developed a "Jon Snow" mentality.
The principle house of Liu Bei is the Imperial House by the way and his great grandfather is a emperor, so how poor can he truly be really...
Im dumb how do I see what units fall into the reduce upkeep and which doesnt... like everytime with these games they same a name but mot all the units can easily be identified as using that rank... for example I would have thought that the yi marksman and militia archers are literally the same type of warriors but one is an elite the other isnt.. how the heck am I suppose to know that yi doesnt make part of this but the others somehow do..
Is there a way I can see what each faction and each unit benefit from these type of bonuses without being a military hierachy genius?
Any unit that has "militia" in its name is reduced in cost, others aren't.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP thanks man.. great videos very informative.. funny enough that answer sounds more like im dumb.. i thought I had too look for every unit that counts as infantry or whatver.. sigh.. lol thx..
Hey btw are you going to make more faction overviews? I would love one about dong zhou :) hartelijk bedank!
How about the faction special buildings?
On the other hand, I think it should be proper to talk about Zhuge Liang as Liu Bei has an event that lets him join for sure.
What does guan yu's god of war abilitiy do?
Murders people, or to be more exact, it does 75k damage, although it can be evaded.
Thank you
How do you confederate? Is that the same thing as unification?
It's different.
So basically you tell me if i keep guan yu and zhang fei together they will cancel each others weakness fei will beat regular guys while yu keeps him safe from officers
Essentially, that’s what I did in my campaign too, with Liu Bei in a seperate army.
Can he recruit Zhuge Liang?
He will appear randomly later in the campaign.
i guess armor clipping on mounts is still a huge problem even for AAA games....
Yeah, I thought about that too when I was recording that. Not really as big a deal in a strategy game with thousands of men compared to an RPG with only a handful though.