For the money, Tein is arguably the best brand to go with, less than a grand for properly put together coilers that hold up for years on end is amazing, Had them on my Z32 and surprised me with the quality and went with them again for my Z33
@@CollectorCarFeed Flex Z on the Z32 which were great for track driving but too harsh on the street so I went with the Basic Z model on the Z33 and they’ve been great so far
As a student who has no money. Tein coilovers are a godsend considering the previous owner decided to install some unbranded springs on cheap eBay shocks. They’re only temporary until I can get something nicer
TEIN made OEM parts for Toyota i believe, so their quality assurance and manufacturing are top notch. Reliability and performance are what matter, and it would be hard to find another small aftermarket coilover company that compares to them.
Tein is not made in China! Tein has a manufacturing facility there that's ran by TEIN, the quality isn't compromised. And only the low-end ones are manufactured there. The Flex Z models and up are still manufactured in Japan.
thanks for the confirmation! i will be putting MAXPEEDINGRODS on my built s13 (ka24 with cold air intake) to slam it🔥💯 i can't wait to total it in a walmart parking lot
I've had Teins on my STI for going on 9 years now and they are just now starting to get to the point where I should start thinking about replacing/rebuilding. So they're alright in my book.
From someone who’s never had tein coil overs. The image that I get from them is that they are a reputable brand with a good range of low to high end coils for the money. Also probably one of cheapest remotely adjustable coil overs on the market with the EDFC
@@fatassasianman6511hey were did you order your tein flex Z's? I was going to order from redline 360 but they just sold out a day they had the cheapest price!😢
That camaro was WILD. Last two s13 were sweet tho. I saw a stock, A- condition S14 kouki for $4900 a couple of months back but I had just gotten a z32 and was out of cash. Great content!
Tein is not a horrible company but they make a range of parts that go from the low end to the high end. I feel like a lot of people that have issue with Tein coils have only ever bought, driven or experienced lower to middle grade products from them. There's a big difference between N1s and Enduras. No one buys N1s for their car because they're almost more than $800 after tax per coil. For that money you can buy brand new Ohlins. A big part of the argument is also the application. My friend has an NA miata with some of the lower end Teins and they're just fine for his application. It doesn't sit too low, it isn't too stiff and there is enough adjustability for them to be worth the price point.
This is the kind of answer I was looking for. NC Miata is what I bought mine for (not installed yet). "Works as intended". I want mild drop (1" rear 1.5" front"). A bit stiffer suspension than stock with a little bit of adjustment level. I don't track, I don't race. I just enjoy "light/medium" level spirited driving here in the NC mountains. I wasn't looking for an unrealistic "riding on clouds while cornering like a F1" have my cake and eat it too fantasy component. My gut told me Tiens would probably be enough for my driving style (mainly spirited touring) and at $1300 for the set from reputable Good Win racing, they were very reasonable on price compared to other options. "Temper your expectations" and "Works as intended" leads me to believe I made the right choice as I DON'T drive over the top, I just push it a little. Thanks for your post.
Do you realise 1. 240sx's dont look like that great of a car to me personally 2. i have no clue what you guys are talking about at least 25% of the time Yet still I have enjoyed every single video since i subbed. keep it up guys 😇🙏
Tien has been around for a while and has built up a reputation for being a great option for people looking for suspension. They have affordable options, are high quality, and are easy to buy (lots of retailers). Had some Tien springs on my EK, and I'm getting Tien springs for my BRZ.
Tien are valid coilovers. Take care of them and replace any coilovers after 5 years. People who say they suck probably never maintain their suspension what so ever.
@@CollectorCarFeed If you just want to lower your car, Tein or Fortune is fine. If we're comparing quality, the Teins I see on a lot of rides are at the low end price point. There are compromises. Lack of rust protection, thin threads opposed to larger threads and less than ideal valving are all things you find on low end coils. Fortune components are manufactured in China, like most of the low end coilovers. Otherwise, there is no way they can keep quality and price point. Most people commenting about a brand only have the stock suspension to compare. I've tested five different suspension setups on my GD STi until I found what I like on the roads I drive. After dealing with coilovers like Tein, I would rather run stock suspension for durability, fitment and performance on the street or light track duty. Why take something off the car to replace with an inferior quality part? There are pics of Tein coilovers snapped in half if you google. I haven't seen that with brands like KW and Ohlins. The materials have to be different. Tein once claimed to manufacture in both Japan and China. Not sure now. The RCE coilovers that I currently have start out as KW and are valved for the GD chassis. The compression and rebound of the damper feels like it is dialed in for the car and gives compliance on rough roads. I never got that feeling when I ran Tein, BC or any suspension at that pricing. You don't know until you experience the difference. The Teins in particular had spring rates that I found too high, which required too much input and less traction. One of the dampers leaked after two months. Having run them once, I would not recommend. I wouldn't shame somebody for buying Tein, but they low end models are kinda junky in my opinion lol. Most people aren't going to spend $1000+ on coilovers so that's why they're so common. It all depends on who you ask and what their experience is.
@@CollectorCarFeed Fortune Auto is yugely overrated. They don’t last, my buddy has broken 3 of their front coil overs at the track in no contact accidents.
Tein coilovers are pretty good in my experience, but cars with the white and lime green Tein liverys on the other hand? That's where it's at. Early 2000s as fuck.
@@CollectorCarFeed Yeah, thats when u go for blitz, ideal, 326 power, BC racing (upper class ones) hks, apex'i and so on. It does NOT have to cost u an organ if u know where to look (except ÖHLINS, and im even SWEDISH!)
@kingnorlen Tein come on cars from the factory. The other ones you named don't. Only ohlins come on some German cars from factory. You know why Tein is trusted to come on cars from factory.... BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING SUSPENSION FOR 40 PLUS YEARS. And most people don't need their 5k plus models.
@@804MRMAN What are u talking about? Were talking coilovers here, no cars come from factory with Tein coilovers.. like i said, Tein IS average, and thats why its NOT that common to see anywhere but on streetcars nowadays. 5k suspension, lol.. ur rly seem offended by the reality here bud. Chill.
I’ve got a 2012 Lexus IS 350, and I’ve been running Tein Flex Z coilovers on it for about 2 years now. No complaints. Probably the best set of coilovers that I’ve ever owned.
I’ve run fortune auto series 500 for over 2 years on my 180 dailying it 300 miles a week with no issue but I’ve heard people have had issues with them. I hear stance are good but it’s always a get what you pay for situation.
My tein flex z cost me about 830 for the set after tax and shipping, and they are great for a primarily street driven car, that also sees some spirited driving.
i think teins are alright, they seem nice enough, and i like them because they are in that funny honda rap: "riding on a cloud with my tein suspension" anyways as always good s-chassis report, you guys truly do make my spare blocks worth wasting!
As someone who's had Tein coils for about two years, I've never had a problem. They ride decent, just don't slam them on their balls. Tein has good priced and expensive coils to choose from, so there's something for everyone.
As somebody who bought tein for there Honda Element. I have no complaints. They have a warranty and are a step up from stock . The ride quality is smooth and adjustable. Best $1200 spent.
I have a set of Tien FlexZs on my 266whp miata. I won't say the suspension is tuned properly, but the fitment looks clean. Slight negative camber in the rear and about 1/4" fender tuck. I view these as middle of the road coilovers. They have adjustable stiffness and rebound, as well as independent ride height adjustment. For just shy of a grand, they offer the same features of $2k coilovers. The build quality is good enough, but these are hardly capable of being fine tuned. Overall, these are good for a street car/entry level suspension option. For pro tuned, or frequent track use (more than occasional) I would opt for something of higher quality.
People calling tein junk are people that spend all day in parking lots running poor people crap like Godspeed, Truhart, megan and sub 900 dollar coilovers. Losers barely actually drive the car or see particular performance driving. Glad this channel shits that particular demographic. Subscribed! 😂
Would you believe that I made a set of Maxspeedingrods coilovers last for over 2K miles on an is300? I'm running springs with my Z31 cuz I plan to add another 200K miles to it. Tein makes good stuff, nothing for the Z31 tho. Every Z31 owner seems to either want coilovers or 100% stock lol, no in between. The only decent springs available for the Z31 are Vogtland or Eibach Pro, technically B&G does too but they suck even more than Vogtland and Eibach lol. I miss the days when I could grab a set of Intrax, H&R or King Springs from a local tuner shop for any platform. The aftermarket for the 84-89 300zx is growing is many ways but alot of the legacy products are dissappearing
tein super streets on my 2000 miata, better than my stock struts. lower, stiffer, bumps arent as harsh even. (they had surface rust and I removed the surface rust and repainted, so not new and perfectly amazing even at that stage in their life, definitely recommend if anyone else finds this comment looking for a review)
Really? I’m looking to buy new coilovers for my 33 gtr and thought about fortune auto or hks. But heard some horror stories about fortune auto so I don’t know…
I’ve had Flex Z’s for years and NEVER had any issues. I’ve run many different coilovers between the 500 and 2500 dollar price points and Flex z is my choice for most of my cars…
I have tein on my Altima sedan...that should answer your question, but really I have 50k on them no issues, but will go back to stock when they wear out.
This channel is confirmation my love for the look of stock vehicles isn't lame I always thought I was alone in this I thought everyone was completely insane with all the garbage they put on their cars
Tein is great for normal or dual duty use. Typically people who actually care about improving lap times and wanting consistency order customizable coilovers, such as Redshift or FortuneAuto.
The flex z coils are a great! Better than bc's and other mid range coils by far. Their cheaper street basis coils blow anything under 550 dollars completely out of the water.
Just researched that the as of 2014 lower grade Tein's are manufactured in their China plant. Apparently this was due to wanting to be more competitive in the budget coilover market. However all are designed/developed in Japan and the high end stuff is still made there.
I had a set of teins on my sw20 turbo and they were fine, had mediocre damping (possibly because they were installed weird by last owner). I swapped them out for fortune 500s and they are significantly better damped while being just as stiff for the corners
@@adruuun I can say they definitely have far better adjustability than the teins did. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure a set of ohlins blow them out of the water but for under 2k with upgraded springs and having the ability to custom pick your spring rates, it’s definitely solid bang for your buck
@Adrian I've had fortune auto for about 2 years now on my s12 (5 year old coils) drove all the 800 mile trip and back zero issues pretty comfortably and done 3 track days.. Great coilovers but now I'm switching to powertrix coilovers
The reason I think Tein isn't great is because I have a set on my SC300 & they're extremely stiff & uncomfortable but I haven't adjusted them at all so maybe when I do that my opinion will change
Every one at the shop love tein and has them on their car I rode a customer car same as mine but had tein coils and it rode nice not bouncing all over and he had the street advance Z and I ask how long he had it he said 6 years and love them
Been hearing the coilover debate for 18 years, blah blah blah blah.. It's all from some stupid urban legend stating since all the different brand coilovers have a sub $1k coilover set that they all must be made in the same factory in China. Doesn't matter whether it's TEIN, Apex'i, Megan, Godspeed, ISR. You just get what you pay for. You want a good setup, go Ohlins, kwVariant, Zeal, on and on. But 240 owners are broke cheap f'er's more interested in their stance than ride quality.
Only the street basis are made outside of japan. Flex and above are all still made in japan. Tein is amazing I’ve had them on multiple cars and if you search forums you’ll see many people with 50-100+k miles on them and still fine. You won’t read that about other brands. Even the $500 ones last a really long time and honestly are great for a strictly daily driver.
I see Tein as mid range, I see Fortune and BC as higher range. I also unironically ran MaxPeedingrods on my Skyline for a year including track days with no issue. I run TruHart now.
I think people only feel that way about tein because they buy the mid tier coilovers. I mean yeah fortune auto is better but it's twice as much so they should be better. Godspeed is half the price and lives up to that quality lol. You get what you pay for. You could probably make the case that their lack of flashiness also might bring a negative reaction. You know how enthusiast minds work where flash = better. It's the same reason why they flock to nrg and fake brides instead of omp and recaro.
What about NRG? I'm looking for seats for my NC Miata and have been looking at NRG. I don't track, nor do I race. I'm just looking for simple seats that are a bit comfier and not worn out like my stock NC seats (which are like fake leather covered metal park benches). I'm not looking for a performance upgrade, just a bit more comfort, not worn out, and halfway decent durability (with care).
I believe Tein claims their Flex Z are either built or assembled in Yokohama. I’ve had great experience with Buddy Club N+ coilovers. I currently have the Sport Spec, no review as too low of drive time on them.
i'll probably get hate for this but i skipped the teins and threw the top end (lol) racelands on my g35 sedan. height and dampening adjustment and they ride just fine for $700 shipped plus lifetime warranty. the cheapest teins kept the spring buckets in the rear (racelands are true coils) and don't have any dampening adjustability. my friend's 350z has the cheap teins and i'd say my car rides noticeably better
Hey you want stockish feel with light roughness with adjustability MAXspeeding rods are good for light vehicles 🎉! Heavier vehicles I notice drive more rough,was worried about the quality but after using them for months they are super nice ride for low price and mid quality
i swear thats like one of the most notorious 240 crashes and you know wich one im talking about.your half way into the video and you know what im talkin about
I have tein coils on my IS350 they are okay but I think there are much better brands for the price though they are definitely better than eBay brands or anything or even Godspeed or Megan they're decent mid-range and they do make some high-end coils that are definitely more on the high end overall I think they're fine and a lot better than anything stock but they're nothing to write home about
Ive had BC racing coilovers on a few of my cars and I've driven a few cars with Tein coilovers and I feel like the ride quality of BC is way better. This seems to be really unpopular and I dont understand why
Bang for the buck tein flex z have never given me a bit of trouble in many trips to deals gap and 30k on them.that said I drive a nb miata wich is a light car. I cant speak on heavier cars.
People that say “only these brands are good” have no fucking idea what they’re talking about. It’s model dependent and there’s so many variables that go with it. For example, while Megan Racing may be considered good on Hondas, on Miata’s they’re considered okay if not fairly low. Same thing with shocks and lowering springs; Miatas don’t take well to most lowering springs as most of them in the market are not stiff enough for the limited suspension travel. As a side note, I had Tein Street Basis Z’s on my NB Miata and they were good. Nothing stiff and jarring but a bit too soft for real track days or autocross.
Teins have a lot of different options from low end (twin tube shocks) to high end (monotube shocks)so I’d assume most people complaining about em are using there lower end shit I’d personally rather run tein then BC coilovers just my two cents
Damm, never heard Feed so tired/dissapointed when explaining why a car is shit, you need to go past the starry eyed passion and love for the chassy that a new buyer would have, to be able to critique what others might just close their eyes on just because the car looks cool. You need someone like that with you when buying your dream car, so you don't get swindled out of your cash
I love this channel. its like a emotional roller coaster, every video I lmao, then get butt hurt, lmao, then get triggered, then lmao, then authur ball my fist, then I click on your next video and enjoy.
I have some on my 2015 wrx and have the car set up for grip and it rides like its on rails, personally no complaints, also I don't vape so 👀 am I really subi guy frfr on jah???!?
I love the content but why are you guys so against 3 piece wheels but advocate Maaco paint jobs? I would rather buy a car that doesn't have a crap paint job because it makes a nice paint job in the future more expensive.
we don't "advocate" maaco paint jobs. we talk about maaco paint jobs for what they are: an inexpensive way to make the most visual difference in a positive way on a car. If I were painting a car I was going to keep, I wouldn't use maaco. If I was painting a car that I was sending out the door, maaco all the way. And even then, it would be on a car that is destined to by purchased by an idiot. Three piece wheels are ugly and heavy, and are only popular because they are associated with being expensive.
Apples and oranges, and the quality from Maaco jobs can vary wildly. Yeah most people opt for the single stage budget tier paint job and it shows, but there's been times that people have opted for the base coat/clear packages, spent more out of pocket, had better prep work done, and had pretty good results.. it's not a $20k paint job but I digress. Nobody is arguing the QUALITY of 3 piece wheels. People that run them bought them oversized both in diameter, width and offset, usually are chromed, and just look gaudy.
@atessaets I am aware but they specifically mention $1000 job. That is not a good one. And I guess you could say apples to oranges because a bad paint job costs money to remove and bad wheels dont. @carfriendsimulator9981 I understand where you are coming from but throwing a bad paint job on a straight chassis is not doing anyone any favors when it comes to saving these cars and "doing it right". Also my 18x9.5 ssr sp1 wheels weigh 23 lbs whereas my 18x9.5 gram light 57cr's weigh 21 lbs. You are over generalizing when you say all 3 piece wheels are extremely heavy. Are there heavy vip 3 piece wheels out there? Absolutely. Are there reasonable weight 3 piece wheels out there? Yep.
@@chrisanderson9931 eh, kinda stretching, nice choice of wheels, but 18"x9 SSR Professor SP1's are closer to 29 pounds. And for the price, a similar sized Forged Rays wheel is about 10 pounds lighter. Gram Lights are cast wheels and are less expensive so by default are going to be a bit heavier.
@@chrisanderson9931 those SSRs weigh 29 lbs, but even if it was 23, 2 lbs of unsprung weight on each corner is a big difference. and like i said in my previous comment, you maaco a car that is destined for an idiot. a car that is not worth putting the time and effort into.
I’m no expert on Tein or suspension parts so I might be talking outta my ass. But I just received my Tein springs from a highly reputable distro in the Miata community, and they have MADE IN JAPAN eeeeeeeverywhere lmao. For contrast, I did cross shop and found similar “Tein’s” for much cheaper but something felt off. I’m sure there’s plenty of teehee teins on the market that may have dragged them because the general public is dumb as fuck.
Blue S13 Hatch isn't paint, it's wrapped lol. But as far as the opinion on Tein coilovers, they sell cheap shit and they sell nice shit. I have Tein Super Drift coilovers on my Mark II and they're fantastic on track, and street driving, but they're also $2k+ coilovers and the quality shows. If you buy $500 Tein Flex Z's and complain about the ride quality of cheap ass coilovers then you should think back to the point that you bought a set of some of the cheapest coilovers you could find.
When your bashing on the blue car and it’s value and build quality not knowing Kyle won this car and recently sold a 3k s13 for 32k. But hey I’ll shamelessly plug my podcast/channel so go check out our page to hear about that car and all the others Kyle has owned/sold 🤷🏻♂️😂
For the money, Tein is arguably the best brand to go with, less than a grand for properly put together coilers that hold up for years on end is amazing, Had them on my Z32 and surprised me with the quality and went with them again for my Z33
Which model on each
@@CollectorCarFeed Flex Z on the Z32 which were great for track driving but too harsh on the street so I went with the Basic Z model on the Z33 and they’ve been great so far
Bro. I had teins for my 92z it rode like SHIT . Fuck no.
@itsEstebanL Driver error. They been around for over 40 years lol
You dont get coilovers for a smooth ride lol.@@Vgk36
As a student who has no money. Tein coilovers are a godsend considering the previous owner decided to install some unbranded springs on cheap eBay shocks. They’re only temporary until I can get something nicer
Been running tein street Flex for ten years now and never had a problem
Yo I came here to learn about Tein and stayed for the format, listening to you guys chat is awesome. Subscribed!
People who think Tein are garbage usually have them setup incorrectly.
TEIN made OEM parts for Toyota i believe, so their quality assurance and manufacturing are top notch. Reliability and performance are what matter, and it would be hard to find another small aftermarket coilover company that compares to them.
Tein is not made in China! Tein has a manufacturing facility there that's ran by TEIN, the quality isn't compromised. And only the low-end ones are manufactured there. The Flex Z models and up are still manufactured in Japan.
i only run MAXPEEDINGRODS in my S13
thanks for the confirmation! i will be putting MAXPEEDINGRODS on my built s13 (ka24 with cold air intake) to slam it🔥💯 i can't wait to total it in a walmart parking lot
@@tosi5932 real men total their S chassis in unlit abandoned mall parking lots.
Jesus christ😂
The internet says maxpeedingrods are basically öhlins lol
i installed maxpeedingrods in my Subaru but the ride is harsh now
I've had Teins on my STI for going on 9 years now and they are just now starting to get to the point where I should start thinking about replacing/rebuilding. So they're alright in my book.
I don't think you rebuild them.
@@fishguy123ut you can, upgrading springs replacing vital or faulty components
@@fishguy123ut ones built after ~2015 aren't, but the older ones are
what teins are runinng? the street basis z?
From someone who’s never had tein coil overs. The image that I get from them is that they are a reputable brand with a good range of low to high end coils for the money. Also probably one of cheapest remotely adjustable coil overs on the market with the EDFC
To my knowledge, Tein Street Basis are Chinese, while Tein Flex Z are made in Japan. I have the Flex Z in a cl7 and no complaints here.
got flex z in my gs300 runs great
@@fatassasianman6511hey were did you order your tein flex Z's? I was going to order from redline 360 but they just sold out a day they had the cheapest price!😢
About to install some Flex Z's on my G35 coupe!
That camaro was WILD. Last two s13 were sweet tho. I saw a stock, A- condition S14 kouki for $4900 a couple of months back but I had just gotten a z32 and was out of cash. Great content!
Tein is not a horrible company but they make a range of parts that go from the low end to the high end. I feel like a lot of people that have issue with Tein coils have only ever bought, driven or experienced lower to middle grade products from them. There's a big difference between N1s and Enduras. No one buys N1s for their car because they're almost more than $800 after tax per coil. For that money you can buy brand new Ohlins. A big part of the argument is also the application. My friend has an NA miata with some of the lower end Teins and they're just fine for his application. It doesn't sit too low, it isn't too stiff and there is enough adjustability for them to be worth the price point.
Basis Z on my RSX Type S. Purchased to replace blown stock shocks. Works as intended - street suspension with mild drop. Temper your expectations.
This is the kind of answer I was looking for. NC Miata is what I bought mine for (not installed yet). "Works as intended". I want mild drop (1" rear 1.5" front"). A bit stiffer suspension than stock with a little bit of adjustment level.
I don't track, I don't race. I just enjoy "light/medium" level spirited driving here in the NC mountains. I wasn't looking for an unrealistic "riding on clouds while cornering like a F1" have my cake and eat it too fantasy component.
My gut told me Tiens would probably be enough for my driving style (mainly spirited touring) and at $1300 for the set from reputable Good Win racing, they were very reasonable on price compared to other options. "Temper your expectations" and "Works as intended" leads me to believe I made the right choice as I DON'T drive over the top, I just push it a little. Thanks for your post.
Do you realise
1. 240sx's dont look like that great of a car to me personally
2. i have no clue what you guys are talking about at least 25% of the time
Yet still I have enjoyed every single video since i subbed. keep it up guys 😇🙏
Absolute CHAD
Tien has been around for a while and has built up a reputation for being a great option for people looking for suspension. They have affordable options, are high quality, and are easy to buy (lots of retailers). Had some Tien springs on my EK, and I'm getting Tien springs for my BRZ.
Tien are valid coilovers. Take care of them and replace any coilovers after 5 years. People who say they suck probably never maintain their suspension what so ever.
Tein is overrated. Fortune Auto has surpassed them in performance per dollar
I see people saying Fortune is junk too, what do these people want?
curious on this, heard their name recently with good reviews but not sure if the source is trust worthy.
@@CollectorCarFeedthey say it’s trash because it’s over $500-$600, anything over that is over there budget therefore it is trash
@@CollectorCarFeed If you just want to lower your car, Tein or Fortune is fine. If we're comparing quality, the Teins I see on a lot of rides are at the low end price point. There are compromises. Lack of rust protection, thin threads opposed to larger threads and less than ideal valving are all things you find on low end coils. Fortune components are manufactured in China, like most of the low end coilovers. Otherwise, there is no way they can keep quality and price point. Most people commenting about a brand only have the stock suspension to compare. I've tested five different suspension setups on my GD STi until I found what I like on the roads I drive. After dealing with coilovers like Tein, I would rather run stock suspension for durability, fitment and performance on the street or light track duty. Why take something off the car to replace with an inferior quality part? There are pics of Tein coilovers snapped in half if you google. I haven't seen that with brands like KW and Ohlins. The materials have to be different. Tein once claimed to manufacture in both Japan and China. Not sure now. The RCE coilovers that I currently have start out as KW and are valved for the GD chassis. The compression and rebound of the damper feels like it is dialed in for the car and gives compliance on rough roads. I never got that feeling when I ran Tein, BC or any suspension at that pricing. You don't know until you experience the difference. The Teins in particular had spring rates that I found too high, which required too much input and less traction. One of the dampers leaked after two months. Having run them once, I would not recommend. I wouldn't shame somebody for buying Tein, but they low end models are kinda junky in my opinion lol. Most people aren't going to spend $1000+ on coilovers so that's why they're so common. It all depends on who you ask and what their experience is.
@@CollectorCarFeed Fortune Auto is yugely overrated. They don’t last, my buddy has broken 3 of their front coil overs at the track in no contact accidents.
dorki dori is a real one! met him in person at a local meet, he’s the coolest, the vegas s chassis community is sick
Tein coilovers are pretty good in my experience, but cars with the white and lime green Tein liverys on the other hand? That's where it's at. Early 2000s as fuck.
Tein has ALWAYS been average. But then again, u get what u pay for. The best u can get is STILL Öhlins or Endless Zeal, thats it.
So what about decent brands that do the job without costing more than the car?
@@CollectorCarFeed Yeah, thats when u go for blitz, ideal, 326 power, BC racing (upper class ones) hks, apex'i and so on. It does NOT have to cost u an organ if u know where to look (except ÖHLINS, and im even SWEDISH!)
@kingnorlen Tein come on cars from the factory. The other ones you named don't. Only ohlins come on some German cars from factory. You know why Tein is trusted to come on cars from factory.... BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING SUSPENSION FOR 40 PLUS YEARS. And most people don't need their 5k plus models.
@@804MRMAN What are u talking about? Were talking coilovers here, no cars come from factory with Tein coilovers.. like i said, Tein IS average, and thats why its NOT that common to see anywhere but on streetcars nowadays. 5k suspension, lol.. ur rly seem offended by the reality here bud. Chill.
@kingnorlen Lmaooooo. Dude yes they do 🤣🤣🤣 JUST SAY YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
BC Racing, Stance/ TFWorks, and Fortune Auto are the only 3 that I’d go with in the US due to their price and product support by the companies.
You should probably add ksport to that as well
I’ve got a 2012 Lexus IS 350, and I’ve been running Tein Flex Z coilovers on it for about 2 years now. No complaints. Probably the best set of coilovers that I’ve ever owned.
I’ve run fortune auto series 500 for over 2 years on my 180 dailying it 300 miles a week with no issue but I’ve heard people have had issues with them.
I hear stance are good but it’s always a get what you pay for situation.
My tein flex z cost me about 830 for the set after tax and shipping, and they are great for a primarily street driven car, that also sees some spirited driving.
i think teins are alright, they seem nice enough, and i like them because they are in that funny honda rap: "riding on a cloud with my tein suspension" anyways as always good s-chassis report, you guys truly do make my spare blocks worth wasting!
The aftermarket shit is adjustable because you need to adjust it all the time to keep the alignment when it starts bending.
As someone who's had Tein coils for about two years, I've never had a problem. They ride decent, just don't slam them on their balls. Tein has good priced and expensive coils to choose from, so there's something for everyone.
As somebody who bought tein for there Honda Element. I have no complaints. They have a warranty and are a step up from stock .
The ride quality is smooth and adjustable. Best $1200 spent.
I have a set of Tien FlexZs on my 266whp miata.
I won't say the suspension is tuned properly, but the fitment looks clean. Slight negative camber in the rear and about 1/4" fender tuck. I view these as middle of the road coilovers. They have adjustable stiffness and rebound, as well as independent ride height adjustment. For just shy of a grand, they offer the same features of $2k coilovers. The build quality is good enough, but these are hardly capable of being fine tuned.
Overall, these are good for a street car/entry level suspension option. For pro tuned, or frequent track use (more than occasional) I would opt for something of higher quality.
Sold mine while my child was being born. I had the receipt and decals that came with them for my G35 coupe. I just picked up stock coils and was fine.
I had Tein on my 240sx way back in 2005 and I loved tf out of them (ran Tein Basics)
People calling tein junk are people that spend all day in parking lots running poor people crap like Godspeed, Truhart, megan and sub 900 dollar coilovers. Losers barely actually drive the car or see particular performance driving.
Glad this channel shits that particular demographic. Subscribed! 😂
I have Tein Basis Z coilovers on my S13 and they are fine, they are on the softer side (6/5 springs) which is perfect for the street imo.
Why do you think they are soft? What is your suspension bounce frequency with those spring rates?
No idea brother. They are softer than what I am used to from other mid quality coilover brands with harder spring rates@@sr20dett1000
Would you believe that I made a set of Maxspeedingrods coilovers last for over 2K miles on an is300?
I'm running springs with my Z31 cuz I plan to add another 200K miles to it. Tein makes good stuff, nothing for the Z31 tho. Every Z31 owner seems to either want coilovers or 100% stock lol, no in between. The only decent springs available for the Z31 are Vogtland or Eibach Pro, technically B&G does too but they suck even more than Vogtland and Eibach lol.
I miss the days when I could grab a set of Intrax, H&R or King Springs from a local tuner shop for any platform. The aftermarket for the 84-89 300zx is growing is many ways but alot of the legacy products are dissappearing
Rocking some tein flex z full coil overs. Thankfully it’s like a 20 way dampener
tein super streets on my 2000 miata, better than my stock struts. lower, stiffer, bumps arent as harsh even. (they had surface rust and I removed the surface rust and repainted, so not new and perfectly amazing even at that stage in their life, definitely recommend if anyone else finds this comment looking for a review)
Had my Tein Flex Z’a for 5 years with 30K miles and still going.
I have Fortune Auto 500 series coilovers for my R33. Cost me almost $2,000 but best bang for your buck.
Really? I’m looking to buy new coilovers for my 33 gtr and thought about fortune auto or hks. But heard some horror stories about fortune auto so I don’t know…
Tein has an extremely wide range of coilovers. Like a set of Tein coils can range from $500 to $5000 and I'd say that Tein coilovers are alright.
I’ve had Flex Z’s for years and NEVER had any issues. I’ve run many different coilovers between the 500 and 2500 dollar price points and Flex z is my choice for most of my cars…
I have tein on my Altima sedan...that should answer your question, but really I have 50k on them no issues, but will go back to stock when they wear out.
That blue 240 sold btw,, I appreciate you thinking that the car is painted but it's actually wrap. And I only had $3k in it total 😂
yeah we can tell. shit was unfinished
Nothing to be proud of
@@dusterpl6093 get back to playing video games, I'll get back to drifting irl
@@runawaygarage at least i'm not the one flipping shitty low effort builds, thus contributing to why these cars are racking up in price.
@@dusterpl6093 cry about it
Own a set of tein flex z on my civic si and my rsx-s. 0 complaints. Great quality and great ride.
This channel is confirmation my love for the look of stock vehicles isn't lame I always thought I was alone in this I thought everyone was completely insane with all the garbage they put on their cars
Tein is great for normal or dual duty use. Typically people who actually care about improving lap times and wanting consistency order customizable coilovers, such as Redshift or FortuneAuto.
The flex z coils are a great! Better than bc's and other mid range coils by far. Their cheaper street basis coils blow anything under 550 dollars completely out of the water.
Just purchased a new set of street advances so will be interesting to see how they hold up.
Just researched that the as of 2014 lower grade Tein's are manufactured in their China plant. Apparently this was due to wanting to be more competitive in the budget coilover market.
However all are designed/developed in Japan and the high end stuff is still made there.
I had a set of teins on my sw20 turbo and they were fine, had mediocre damping (possibly because they were installed weird by last owner). I swapped them out for fortune 500s and they are significantly better damped while being just as stiff for the corners
I’ve heard fortune auto is crap from a few people glad to hear there not a lot people just talk but haven’t had experience with them
@@adruuun I can say they definitely have far better adjustability than the teins did. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure a set of ohlins blow them out of the water but for under 2k with upgraded springs and having the ability to custom pick your spring rates, it’s definitely solid bang for your buck
@Adrian I've had fortune auto for about 2 years now on my s12 (5 year old coils) drove all the 800 mile trip and back zero issues pretty comfortably and done 3 track days..
Great coilovers but now I'm switching to powertrix coilovers
The tein Basis Z and Street Advance Z moved production to China but the Flex-Z's with EDFC are still made in Japan im pretty sure
Yup! I literally just made a comment stating the same thing.
The reason I think Tein isn't great is because I have a set on my SC300 & they're extremely stiff & uncomfortable but I haven't adjusted them at all so maybe when I do that my opinion will change
tein are made in japan. top shelf. better than BC..dont let the lz fans hear that tho
Every one at the shop love tein and has them on their car I rode a customer car same as mine but had tein coils and it rode nice not bouncing all over and he had the street advance Z and I ask how long he had it he said 6 years and love them
Got tien flex Z for my s2000, i dont track, got it in the soft setting for daily driving on the weekends, not bad for the price
Been hearing the coilover debate for 18 years, blah blah blah blah.. It's all from some stupid urban legend stating since all the different brand coilovers have a sub $1k coilover set that they all must be made in the same factory in China. Doesn't matter whether it's TEIN, Apex'i, Megan, Godspeed, ISR. You just get what you pay for. You want a good setup, go Ohlins, kwVariant, Zeal, on and on. But 240 owners are broke cheap f'er's more interested in their stance than ride quality.
Only the street basis are made outside of japan. Flex and above are all still made in japan. Tein is amazing I’ve had them on multiple cars and if you search forums you’ll see many people with 50-100+k miles on them and still fine. You won’t read that about other brands. Even the $500 ones last a really long time and honestly are great for a strictly daily driver.
I see Tein as mid range, I see Fortune and BC as higher range. I also unironically ran MaxPeedingrods on my Skyline for a year including track days with no issue. I run TruHart now.
I think people only feel that way about tein because they buy the mid tier coilovers. I mean yeah fortune auto is better but it's twice as much so they should be better. Godspeed is half the price and lives up to that quality lol. You get what you pay for.
You could probably make the case that their lack of flashiness also might bring a negative reaction. You know how enthusiast minds work where flash = better. It's the same reason why they flock to nrg and fake brides instead of omp and recaro.
i agree with this statement
What about NRG? I'm looking for seats for my NC Miata and have been looking at NRG. I don't track, nor do I race. I'm just looking for simple seats that are a bit comfier and not worn out like my stock NC seats (which are like fake leather covered metal park benches). I'm not looking for a performance upgrade, just a bit more comfort, not worn out, and halfway decent durability (with care).
I believe Tein claims their Flex Z are either built or assembled in Yokohama. I’ve had great experience with Buddy Club N+ coilovers. I currently have the Sport Spec, no review as too low of drive time on them.
Those last 2 were beautiful.
i'll probably get hate for this but i skipped the teins and threw the top end (lol) racelands on my g35 sedan. height and dampening adjustment and they ride just fine for $700 shipped plus lifetime warranty. the cheapest teins kept the spring buckets in the rear (racelands are true coils) and don't have any dampening adjustability. my friend's 350z has the cheap teins and i'd say my car rides noticeably better
Hey you want stockish feel with light roughness with adjustability MAXspeeding rods are good for light vehicles 🎉! Heavier vehicles I notice drive more rough,was worried about the quality but after using them for months they are super nice ride for low price and mid quality
Blue car: you guys have zero idea what you’re talking about lmao
i swear thats like one of the most notorious 240 crashes and you know wich one im talking about.your half way into the video and you know what im talkin about
Ive used tien a few times, never had an issue.
@1:59 You're welcome
I have tein coils on my IS350 they are okay but I think there are much better brands for the price though they are definitely better than eBay brands or anything or even Godspeed or Megan they're decent mid-range and they do make some high-end coils that are definitely more on the high end overall I think they're fine and a lot better than anything stock but they're nothing to write home about
That blue s13 look like a wrap to me. The hazy gloss and jagged cut marks are the giveaways to me.
Teins are still super popular out here in japan and it seems for good reason
What year is your SEC?
@@carsmusicandclothing7066 1987
Ive had BC racing coilovers on a few of my cars and I've driven a few cars with Tein coilovers and I feel like the ride quality of BC is way better. This seems to be really unpopular and I dont understand why
Because it's a lie lol
"We don't only like stock cars" but shits on basic aero kits, ok bro
They work great
Blue car was wrapped btw not painted
Bang for the buck tein flex z have never given me a bit of trouble in many trips to deals gap and 30k on them.that said I drive a nb miata wich is a light car. I cant speak on heavier cars.
People that say “only these brands are good” have no fucking idea what they’re talking about. It’s model dependent and there’s so many variables that go with it. For example, while Megan Racing may be considered good on Hondas, on Miata’s they’re considered okay if not fairly low. Same thing with shocks and lowering springs; Miatas don’t take well to most lowering springs as most of them in the market are not stiff enough for the limited suspension travel.
As a side note, I had Tein Street Basis Z’s on my NB Miata and they were good. Nothing stiff and jarring but a bit too soft for real track days or autocross.
Teins have a lot of different options from low end (twin tube shocks) to high end (monotube shocks)so I’d assume most people complaining about em are using there lower end shit I’d personally rather run tein then BC coilovers just my two cents
Tein is still made in Japan they just have factories in China, US, and UK people just dont like doing research and just follow what they hear 😂
Damm, never heard Feed so tired/dissapointed when explaining why a car is shit, you need to go past the starry eyed passion and love for the chassy that a new buyer would have, to be able to critique what others might just close their eyes on just because the car looks cool. You need someone like that with you when buying your dream car, so you don't get swindled out of your cash
tein is perfectly fine
From my own experience and my friends i cant say anything bad about tein coils been using them for years but haven't got a new set since 2019
S13 Tein HE’s still going good, been over 20 years now lol
I love this channel. its like a emotional roller coaster, every video I lmao, then get butt hurt, lmao, then get triggered, then lmao, then authur ball my fist, then I click on your next video and enjoy.
They seem to last a long time without leaking. Mine say made in japan. I just bought them last year.
Keep it up!
Everything is made in China nowadays but tein is good Just depends on what price point you want to spend on a set of coilovers
Tein flex z and the rest of their higher end coilovers are still made in Yokohama Japan
Damn you can see orange peel on wrap.
Back in the 90s tein was tip of the line ! Idk about now days. Tho
*Fun Fact. TEIN COILOVERS COME ON FACTORY CARS, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW IT!!!*
TEIN is a lot better than maxxpissingrods
On my is300 they are pretty good
I have some on my 2015 wrx and have the car set up for grip and it rides like its on rails, personally no complaints, also I don't vape so 👀 am I really subi guy frfr on jah???!?
I love the content but why are you guys so against 3 piece wheels but advocate Maaco paint jobs? I would rather buy a car that doesn't have a crap paint job because it makes a nice paint job in the future more expensive.
we don't "advocate" maaco paint jobs. we talk about maaco paint jobs for what they are: an inexpensive way to make the most visual difference in a positive way on a car. If I were painting a car I was going to keep, I wouldn't use maaco. If I was painting a car that I was sending out the door, maaco all the way. And even then, it would be on a car that is destined to by purchased by an idiot.
Three piece wheels are ugly and heavy, and are only popular because they are associated with being expensive.
Apples and oranges, and the quality from Maaco jobs can vary wildly. Yeah most people opt for the single stage budget tier paint job and it shows, but there's been times that people have opted for the base coat/clear packages, spent more out of pocket, had better prep work done, and had pretty good results.. it's not a $20k paint job but I digress. Nobody is arguing the QUALITY of 3 piece wheels. People that run them bought them oversized both in diameter, width and offset, usually are chromed, and just look gaudy.
@atessaets I am aware but they specifically mention $1000 job. That is not a good one. And I guess you could say apples to oranges because a bad paint job costs money to remove and bad wheels dont.
@carfriendsimulator9981 I understand where you are coming from but throwing a bad paint job on a straight chassis is not doing anyone any favors when it comes to saving these cars and "doing it right". Also my 18x9.5 ssr sp1 wheels weigh 23 lbs whereas my 18x9.5 gram light 57cr's weigh 21 lbs. You are over generalizing when you say all 3 piece wheels are extremely heavy. Are there heavy vip 3 piece wheels out there? Absolutely. Are there reasonable weight 3 piece wheels out there? Yep.
@@chrisanderson9931 eh, kinda stretching, nice choice of wheels, but 18"x9 SSR Professor SP1's are closer to 29 pounds. And for the price, a similar sized Forged Rays wheel is about 10 pounds lighter. Gram Lights are cast wheels and are less expensive so by default are going to be a bit heavier.
@@chrisanderson9931 those SSRs weigh 29 lbs, but even if it was 23, 2 lbs of unsprung weight on each corner is a big difference. and like i said in my previous comment, you maaco a car that is destined for an idiot. a car that is not worth putting the time and effort into.
Funny you didn’t realize the “paint line” was actually a wrap cut off line. 😂
blue car was a wrap
Lowering springs instead of coilovers? What? Why?
Why do you feel like you need coilovers? All 99% of people want is a lower car, and that can be achieved with springs
Lowering springs are the coilovers 80% of America needs
I dont even like these cars but i watch the vids
MAXSPEEDYS!!!!! if ya gonna run renamed china might as well pay there value
I’m no expert on Tein or suspension parts so I might be talking outta my ass. But I just received my Tein springs from a highly reputable distro in the Miata community, and they have MADE IN JAPAN eeeeeeeverywhere lmao. For contrast, I did cross shop and found similar “Tein’s” for much cheaper but something felt off. I’m sure there’s plenty of teehee teins on the market that may have dragged them because the general public is dumb as fuck.
Blue S13 Hatch isn't paint, it's wrapped lol.
But as far as the opinion on Tein coilovers, they sell cheap shit and they sell nice shit. I have Tein Super Drift coilovers on my Mark II and they're fantastic on track, and street driving, but they're also $2k+ coilovers and the quality shows. If you buy $500 Tein Flex Z's and complain about the ride quality of cheap ass coilovers then you should think back to the point that you bought a set of some of the cheapest coilovers you could find.
When your bashing on the blue car and it’s value and build quality not knowing Kyle won this car and recently sold a 3k s13 for 32k. But hey I’ll shamelessly plug my podcast/channel so go check out our page to hear about that car and all the others Kyle has owned/sold 🤷🏻♂️😂
Cool, it's still not a good build