To me derrick white had the greatest year. Got to be a key cog on celtics, allowing him to get to the us national team, got paid, won an Olympic gold, joined the bald brothers association
Windhorst is awful when he’s either tired or in a bad mood. People get on Bontemps about interrupting and being straight to the point but I much prefer that to Brian Interrupting everybody and going off on these weird overblown narratives that take forever. That as well as Brian’s such small basketball IQ I often find myself wishing Brian wasn’t there and the two Tim’s just talked basketball themselves. Oh and Bontemps was absolutely correct in all what he said regarding Tatum. McMahon is an all round good dude and you can tell he tries to make everyone laughs and bring the tension down.
Dallas was fortunate to get the Wolves? Y'all said "Twolves in 5" and "antman is better than Luka" then Luka made you all cry😂😂 and before that was "OKC in 6"😂
@@Aliciousness76 Dallas was never favored by the media in any series. Luka and slovenia is never favored in the olympics either. But they forget about that. Its obvious that they don't like Luka.
@@KoKoNuTz232 Yes Dallas beat 3 50 win teams last season in playoffs Luka is career 29 ppg in RS and 31 ppg in playoffs, Luka has already beaten 5 different 50 win teams in playoffs including 60 win team
@@rabeechowdhury and Giannis didn't win one playoff game in that full calendar year, Tatum won a title in that same year, so why is Giannis his pick, when he played 0 in the playoffs? Windbag clearly hates Tatum.
@@MerkinMuffly Olympics in what was widely consindered the group of death Giannis carried a whole country to the Olympics. Tatum on the other hand, got benched practically the whole Olympics. This would disqualify Tatum from discussion too. The summer olympics happens once every four years. The nba finals happens every year. That's the difference. For reference, Tatum being benched in team USA games is like if curry was benched for 4 straight years in the entirety of his team's deep playoff runs. This would be the line of thinking for the Giannis over Tatum year comp.
Windy hasn’t hid his bias for the last couple years more and more… I tried to fight through it… this will be the last comment, view the hoops collective will receive from me Those Tatum takes will age like milk… we see through “I’m trying to give him credit” angle
@@naeemmuhammad4362 I didn’t say nothing in the mvp segment on Tatum where it was the shortest analysis, they almost spent 45% talking about Luka… I’ve been a fan but this was the last straw
Jokic’s 2024 stands out for his MVP performance and leading Serbia to an Olympic bronze, showcasing his unmatched consistency and impact on the global stage.
Imagine if we had to play an 8th seed Miami team with an injured Jimmy Butler and no Tyler Herro in the finals. We'd get destroyed without a demi-god like Jokic to carry us.
Objectively, I'd have to say its Jokic.. Won another MVP, and almost carried his country to a win over Team USA in the Olympics... His style isnt my cup of tea, but Jokic is clearly the best player on the planet right now
Bogi did alot of the carrying on that team bud. Jokic literally was 38% fg for the game vs usa ....If he shot like the rest of his team they'd win easily. Also you cant name him the best in the world when his defense has been the reason for their struggles and big losses !!
@@CannedHam2479 He lost a game 7 in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs up 20 points and takes home a “Bronze” metal lol and he had the best year!? 🤣 Standards are pretty low. Oh that’s right he won the MVP which should’ve went to SGA. This is why ratings suck. They’ve been trying to convince us this European Center douche bag that has 1 ring but 3 bogus MVP’s is the best player. Give me a break! The guy deserved 1 MVP. The other’s aren’t convincing.
They all picked Wolves until we won, then it was lucky. Meanwhile Jokic beat a bunch of play-in teams and it's the most impressive run ever. Jokic has still not beat a 50 win team in the playoffs, he's 30 and will have 4 MVPs soon. Don't forget people saying Denver was going to be a dynasty and Murray was a top 5 point guard until Denver started losing then it was Joker has no help.
@@philipredford4552I like how you conveniently ignore his 34-9-10 season last year followed by beating 3 50+ win teams on his way to the finals where he and the Mavs were pinned as the underdogs in every series.
Regarding Giannis and that loss in the Olympics against Germany: The german side a) could usually ignore one or two greek players at the three point line. b) Had enough length to fill the paint against Giannis, thanks to no defensive three second rule in international basketball (Voigtmann, Theis, Thiemann and both Wagners)
You had Lebron and KD ahead of Tatum on the Depth chart. That was the main reason Tatum didn't play a lot. Also he was in a shooting slump. I'm a Celtics fan but I understood it.
Awful pick. Not the best player on his team in the finals. Could hardly get on the court during the Olympics. Playing very well now but for that calendar year to represent the best, it's absolutely insane
Bontemps shoulda just called in sick if he didn’t wanna be on the podcast. Being a crab and making snarky comments after everything Windy says is a bad look. What a child
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Quite easily Joker. Realistically was by far the best player on the Olympics too, imagine leading in PTS/REB/AST/STL entire tournament and nearly beating ALL-NBA squad and not winning the tournament MVP lol. Clear cut best year overall by best player in the world when we include him also winning the NBA MVP and in lead for another.
You’re not wrong but your statement about him not being tournament mvp is wrong,you make it sound like a player from the team who didn’t win should win it.If that’s the case then half of any other finals mvp should also be changed to the actual best player in the finals too.
@jynx464 Is MVP a team achievement or player achievement? Joker was SIGNIFICANTLY better than LBJ or any other player, just like USA was SIGNIFICANTLY better than any other team. Especially rooster wise. Usually best performing player plays for winning team. It was not the case this time and it's not like Joker got out in group stage. Tournament MVP = Joker Finals MVP = likely Steph
Thats a awful take 😂😂 .. vs the usa he shot like 38%fg and got ate up defensively!! That serbian team was great especially bogi! They literally won silver the year jokic didn't play 😂😂😂..He played and they dropped down to bronze! Jokic is nowhere near the best when his defense is constantly a issue and costing them big games
Amazing podcast. These guys hear all the chatter. Hats off to Bontemps. He actually goes to the games. He understands that excellence is from persevering and putting together wins. All those other guys are starting out slow, have injuries, come on strong and fade away late. Fancy passes, slowmo layups, screaming at fans. Enough.
Jrue Holiday is the only correct answer: • Key member of NBA Title winner • Key member of Olympic Gold Medal winner • Resigned w/ NBA Title favorite... • ... for $134m fully-guaranteed contract that that will pay him through age 38.
LBJ definitely had the best year with all the history he’s made & player accolades & milestones he earned in 2024. Can’t forget the olympics performances & awards. He also got his coach fired & started a podcast with his future coach. He got his son drafted to his team & got to play in a game with him. Nobody won more than the king this year 😂
“He’ll never be a good defensive player” is such a cop out excuse for a player who is 25yrs old and a perennial MVP candidate. He’s still 6’6 with two arms and two legs, right?? Most of individual defense is effort and team defense is IQ
Bontemps showing why he's so respected for his knowledge and why he's so hated for his personality! I love this podcast so much. Also, if anyone knows first hand how Tatum shrinks under pressure, it's the coach who beat his team in '22 and schooled him by having Andrew Wiggins defending him.
Lmao, Tatum's won more playoff games since he got in the NBA than anyone else in the league and won a title leading his team in points, assists and rebounds in the finals, only 3 other players in history have done that. How's that for shrinking you casual
No one carried a team more last year then Jalen Brunson sooooo I choose Brunson Burner 🔫 Guy went from overpaid at 4 years 100million to superstar and carrying a team on his back. Luka, Giannis, Joker have all been known greatness so Brunson just hits harder for me 🤷🏻♂️
@devanshutrivedi9221 the thumbnail I see for this video is Giannis not Lebron. I live in Toronto. Maybe the thumbnails are different for certain countries? Lol
stephen curry wasn't playing well earlier in the olympics and got the benefit of the doubt. if you're not going to mention that and acknowledge the bias that went on, stop opening this topic at every chance.
Dude, what is this podcast. Its quite obvious the relationship has soured. And we are all watching it in real time. Botemps theirs really no excuse dude, Windys not even the type of person to provoke that.
Steve Kerr’s defense attorney is hilarious😂😂
The Bontemps rebellion is hilarious
I swear😂
Please don't fire him windy
Autism has Tim Bontemps
Something when wrong for Bontemps this day, that has nothing with Tatum. :)
Bontemps should be made to wear a gag after his 3rd interruption of others.
This podcast is the only thing keeping ESPN NBA on UA-cam alive.
I enjoy this show more than the games... it wouldn't exist without the games. Chicken and egg deal.
💥🤟🏽‼️‼️😂
Y’all are just weird and have a crush on these guys.. this podcast doesn’t help the league whatsoever
It's not as funny as Charles and shaq, but it's endearing and more interesting analysis, along with the true sitcom character personality dichotomies.
Idk why ESPN doesn’t give these guys a national show on ESPN, clearly they’re out of touch
Lmao Bontemps Turning up today 😭
Bontemps and windy's most passive aggresive podcast to date.
@@tombystander Don't think there was anything passive about it lmao. All in good food tho
To me derrick white had the greatest year. Got to be a key cog on celtics, allowing him to get to the us national team, got paid, won an Olympic gold, joined the bald brothers association
ain’t nobody picking derrick white bro, hop off that meat
my condolences to your hair
@bathsaltzombies8855 thanks bro But I am not bald. 😂😂
That’s actually not bad.
Unexpected answer. Slightly controversial but a Fair take. I’ll allow it. 😂
Windhorst is awful when he’s either tired or in a bad mood. People get on Bontemps about interrupting and being straight to the point but I much prefer that to Brian Interrupting everybody and going off on these weird overblown narratives that take forever. That as well as Brian’s such small basketball IQ I often find myself wishing Brian wasn’t there and the two Tim’s just talked basketball themselves.
Oh and Bontemps was absolutely correct in all what he said regarding Tatum.
McMahon is an all round good dude and you can tell he tries to make everyone laughs and bring the tension down.
Bontemps should have brought up the fact that Giannis didn't even play in the playoffs last year so why was he WIndhorst's best player of 2024?
Windy is so annoying sometimes
Giannis didn't even play in the playoffs last year, so why did WIndbag vote him best player of 2024?
Dallas was fortunate to get the Wolves? Y'all said "Twolves in 5" and "antman is better than Luka" then Luka made you all cry😂😂 and before that was "OKC in 6"😂
They claimed that the winner between the Timberwolves and Denver is heading to the finals, and 90% of the fans as well
@@Aliciousness76 Dallas was never favored by the media in any series. Luka and slovenia is never favored in the olympics either. But they forget about that. Its obvious that they don't like Luka.
@@KoKoNuTz232 Yes Dallas beat 3 50 win teams last season in playoffs Luka is career 29 ppg in RS and 31 ppg in playoffs, Luka has already beaten 5 different 50 win teams in playoffs including 60 win team
@@KoKoNuTz232Tim Legler literally called Dallas going to the finals and repeatedly said it
@@kraw3026 Thats the one and only member of the media LOL
Windy really hates Tatum
He said full calendar year. Read carefully.
@@rabeechowdhury Celtics fans can't read
@@rabeechowdhury and Giannis didn't win one playoff game in that full calendar year, Tatum won a title in that same year, so why is Giannis his pick, when he played 0 in the playoffs? Windbag clearly hates Tatum.
I read it just fine, Giannis didn't play one playoff game in the calendar year 2024 which should immediately disqualify him for winning this award.
@@MerkinMuffly Olympics in what was widely consindered the group of death Giannis carried a whole country to the Olympics. Tatum on the other hand, got benched practically the whole Olympics. This would disqualify Tatum from discussion too. The summer olympics happens once every four years. The nba finals happens every year. That's the difference. For reference, Tatum being benched in team USA games is like if curry was benched for 4 straight years in the entirety of his team's deep playoff runs. This would be the line of thinking for the Giannis over Tatum year comp.
Windy hasn’t hid his bias for the last couple years more and more… I tried to fight through it… this will be the last comment, view the hoops collective will receive from me
Those Tatum takes will age like milk… we see through “I’m trying to give him credit” angle
Here’s the Tatum fanboy
@ Tim couldn’t do his segment, that’s poor production and entertainment
Nah I just heard it you are absolutely right I’m with bontemps this is ridiculous what the hell are we doing
@@naeemmuhammad4362 I didn’t say nothing in the mvp segment on Tatum where it was the shortest analysis, they almost spent 45% talking about Luka… I’ve been a fan but this was the last straw
ROFL amazing podcast boys. Thanks for being the heel bonty...every group needs one. Have a happy holidays
This.
Hoop Collective Baller D'or award goes to Tim McMahon for his leadership and intangibles dealing with BW and TB for a full season😂
Jokic’s 2024 stands out for his MVP performance and leading Serbia to an Olympic bronze, showcasing his unmatched consistency and impact on the global stage.
The Mavericks got really lucky playing the 1, 3, and 4 seed last playoffs. We really dodged some bullets 😮💨
at least you didnt have to go through the gauntlet of play-in teams in the WCF and Finals that Nuggets had to go through for their ring.
Imagine if we had to play an 8th seed Miami team with an injured Jimmy Butler and no Tyler Herro in the finals. We'd get destroyed without a demi-god like Jokic to carry us.
Has there ever been a podcast with less chemistry between the hosts?
Uh?
Objectively, I'd have to say its Jokic.. Won another MVP, and almost carried his country to a win over Team USA in the Olympics... His style isnt my cup of tea, but Jokic is clearly the best player on the planet right now
Nope, giannis is.
Bogi did alot of the carrying on that team bud. Jokic literally was 38% fg for the game vs usa ....If he shot like the rest of his team they'd win easily. Also you cant name him the best in the world when his defense has been the reason for their struggles and big losses !!
@ Fair points
@@JohnStockton7459 Debatable, but Giannis definitely didnt have the best year
@@CannedHam2479 He lost a game 7 in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs up 20 points and takes home a “Bronze” metal lol and he had the best year!? 🤣 Standards are pretty low. Oh that’s right he won the MVP which should’ve went to SGA. This is why ratings suck. They’ve been trying to convince us this European Center douche bag that has 1 ring but 3 bogus MVP’s is the best player. Give me a break! The guy deserved 1 MVP. The other’s aren’t convincing.
Dallas was fortunate to get the wolves? You was all calling can’t man MJ after the Denver series now they were gassed? 😂😂😂 windy riding wolves meat
They all picked Wolves until we won, then it was lucky.
Meanwhile Jokic beat a bunch of play-in teams and it's the most impressive run ever.
Jokic has still not beat a 50 win team in the playoffs, he's 30 and will have 4 MVPs soon.
Don't forget people saying Denver was going to be a dynasty and Murray was a top 5 point guard until Denver started losing then it was Joker has no help.
The answer for 2024 Baller'dor is Luka Doncic. Period!
How? Didn't win MVP, lost the finals, didn't qualify for Olympics and not had a good start this season.
@@philipredford4552I like how you conveniently ignore his 34-9-10 season last year followed by beating 3 50+ win teams on his way to the finals where he and the Mavs were pinned as the underdogs in every series.
Its ridiculous the way they talk about Luka.
Regarding Giannis and that loss in the Olympics against Germany:
The german side
a) could usually ignore one or two greek players at the three point line.
b) Had enough length to fill the paint against Giannis, thanks to no defensive three second rule in international basketball (Voigtmann, Theis, Thiemann and both Wagners)
Bontemp is having its fun moment as its name literally describes it "Bon Temps"
You had Lebron and KD ahead of Tatum on the Depth chart. That was the main reason Tatum didn't play a lot. Also he was in a shooting slump. I'm a Celtics fan but I understood it.
Jayson Tatum
Being the third most important player on the Celtics and riding the bench in the Olympics.
What a year !
@@jamesd126better than yours😂
Awful pick. Not the best player on his team in the finals. Could hardly get on the court during the Olympics. Playing very well now but for that calendar year to represent the best, it's absolutely insane
@@jamesd126 Missing the entire 2024 NBA playoffs makes Giannis a dumber pick.
Bontemps shoulda just called in sick if he didn’t wanna be on the podcast. Being a crab and making snarky comments after everything Windy says is a bad look. What a child
Why did you use Giannis picture? To draw viewers right? You should have use Nikola’s pix
Are you guys ready to admit that you were wrong on every aspect of the Memphis Grizzlies.
Grumpy Bontemps was hilarious
Kyrie no doubt. The man was crucified and called a locker room cancer only for him to go ahead and take the Mavs to the finals.
Shout out to truehoop when the analytics ruled ESPN
Cranky today, all of them. Time to get some days off, guys, lol.
Best hoop pod in the world
Bontemps 🤘🏾‼️‼️right Jason tatum didnt play. Windy u admitted Curry played horribly till last 3 games. Why curry avg 30 + minute? If he also payed bad
I want windy to beat tf out of bontemps
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Quite easily Joker.
Realistically was by far the best player on the Olympics too, imagine leading in PTS/REB/AST/STL entire tournament and nearly beating ALL-NBA squad and not winning the tournament MVP lol.
Clear cut best year overall by best player in the world when we include him also winning the NBA MVP and in lead for another.
You’re not wrong but your statement about him not being tournament mvp is wrong,you make it sound like a player from the team who didn’t win should win it.If that’s the case then half of any other finals mvp should also be changed to the actual best player in the finals too.
@jynx464 Is MVP a team achievement or player achievement?
Joker was SIGNIFICANTLY better than LBJ or any other player, just like USA was SIGNIFICANTLY better than any other team. Especially rooster wise.
Usually best performing player plays for winning team. It was not the case this time and it's not like Joker got out in group stage.
Tournament MVP = Joker
Finals MVP = likely Steph
Thats a awful take 😂😂 .. vs the usa he shot like 38%fg and got ate up defensively!! That serbian team was great especially bogi! They literally won silver the year jokic didn't play 😂😂😂..He played and they dropped down to bronze! Jokic is nowhere near the best when his defense is constantly a issue and costing them big games
Bontemps be getting spicy 😂
Bontemps should only be able to record in this mood😂😂😂
Amazing podcast. These guys hear all the chatter. Hats off to Bontemps. He actually goes to the games. He understands that excellence is from persevering and putting together wins. All those other guys are starting out slow, have injuries, come on strong and fade away late. Fancy passes, slowmo layups, screaming at fans. Enough.
Awesome speech for Tatum’s nomination!
I might have to go with LeBron. Olympics gold medal, Olympic MVP, most minutes record, climbing up other all-time lists, and got his son into the NBA.
Bontemps is cranky this holiday season. 😂
This award was supposed to be between Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, but USAB politics messed this up
Top 5 hoop collective pod ever
LETS GO BONTEMPS!!! 😂✊🏾👏🏾
I love you guys. Thanks for another great year.
No love for SGA in this, yet they fall all over themselves praising Wemby... smh
Happy Festivus, must've been some top notch holiday crack the guys were smokin to forget to mention Brunson!
Didn’t mention shai either which is even more egregious
Jrue Holiday is the only correct answer:
• Key member of NBA Title winner
• Key member of Olympic Gold Medal winner
• Resigned w/ NBA Title favorite...
• ... for $134m fully-guaranteed contract that that will pay him through age 38.
This was uncomfortable to watch😂. I was wrapping presents relaxing enjoying the holiday spirit with my favorite podcast 😅.
Feliz Navidad.
Bontemps is everyone’s toxic friend that they’ve known for far too long to just cut out quickly
i mean it's mostly on windy for getting all semantic for that entire section of time. it was just two dudes pushing back on each other before that.
This went off the rails and became the Tatum podcast JFC 🤦
Brodie trolling ain’t no way he snapping like this what my guy on
He is on facts😂
The irony of Bontemps complaining people are interrupting him
LBJ definitely had the best year with all the history he’s made & player accolades & milestones he earned in 2024. Can’t forget the olympics performances & awards. He also got his coach fired & started a podcast with his future coach. He got his son drafted to his team & got to play in a game with him. Nobody won more than the king this year 😂
Do these guys even like each other?
Chill chat, it normal people arguing. You prefer Malike and fricken Stephan A?!!!
This was shockingly entertaining
Windy is just being insanely pedantic about Tatum
Windy going with Giannis over Jokic. Then hyping his Olympics when Jokic won Bronze, nearly beat USA and was leader in pts, rebounds and assists. 🙈
he literally chose jokic in the his vote at 50:42 it was just his first nominee was giannis
Everyone nearly beat the USA
Dont Play wit Bontemps !!!! 😂😂😂😂
The Tatum/Kerr Windy vs Bontemps had me dying 💀💀💀
Obviously Luka deserves the Baller D'Or
Bontemps is the worst thing to happen to life on Earth since that asteroid that took out the dinosaurs. Perhaps even longer…
I hope Bontemps took a nap after this.
He carried the show
Another episode of Windhorst not letting people finish their takes
Nominate Sabrina Ionescu: WNBA chip, Olympic gold, almost beat Chef Curry in the 3-point contest, 🔥🔥🔥 new shoe. At least an honorary mention
Nice try but we're talking about real basketball.
“He’ll never be a good defensive player” is such a cop out excuse for a player who is 25yrs old and a perennial MVP candidate.
He’s still 6’6 with two arms and two legs, right?? Most of individual defense is effort and team defense is IQ
He is a good defender because you aren't a top 10 defense with a cone out there and nobody that gets mentioned for all-defense
KAT! MVP candidate
If you don't care for defense, then maybe jokic is the best player. But there's just soo much bias and narrative pushing that he gets.
And you sound completely unbiased when it comes to Jokic right? Jokic is the best play stop crying
Cry some more
Its gotta be Bus Driver Jaylen Brown!!!
Serious filibustering by Windy.
💥‼️
Windy defending Kerr
😂😂😂😂😂😂Gsus windy on retainer
The Tatum stan is crazy
I thought bontemps would have gone with Embiid for his 1 and 2
Like a game of 21 but nobody scoring
I can't tell if it's real or fake but it's entertaining. Merry Christmas!
Bontemps showing why he's so respected for his knowledge and why he's so hated for his personality! I love this podcast so much.
Also, if anyone knows first hand how Tatum shrinks under pressure, it's the coach who beat his team in '22 and schooled him by having Andrew Wiggins defending him.
Lmao, Tatum's won more playoff games since he got in the NBA than anyone else in the league and won a title leading his team in points, assists and rebounds in the finals, only 3 other players in history have done that. How's that for shrinking you casual
Right at the start of the podcast… “I don’t know if it’s a joke” -Bontempts being unbearable
Baller d'or is genius, whoever came up with that deserves a raise
Stop talking, Windy.
I need to find someone who loves me as much as Bontemps loves that sweatshirt. It is very nice in all fairness
My boi type smug today lmaooo
No one carried a team more last year then Jalen Brunson sooooo I choose Brunson Burner 🔫
Guy went from overpaid at 4 years 100million to superstar and carrying a team on his back. Luka, Giannis, Joker have all been known greatness so Brunson just hits harder for me 🤷🏻♂️
I looked at what's was going to be talked about and talk about boring. I passed on this one. Major snooze fest.
Why is lebron on the thumbnail if it wasn't him?
Because he is the most popular player and will get more clicks.
first time on youtube?
The thumbnail I see is Giannis. That's weird.
Fym its Giannis😂
@devanshutrivedi9221 the thumbnail I see for this video is Giannis not Lebron. I live in Toronto. Maybe the thumbnails are different for certain countries? Lol
I can’t believe no
Comments asking why shai wasn’t mentioned. I kept thinking oh he’s gonna get mentioned next.
Edwards and Wemby over Brunson is comical
This interaction was embarrassing for all involved. I felt like I was listening to 12 year olds
stephen curry wasn't playing well earlier in the olympics and got the benefit of the doubt. if you're not going to mention that and acknowledge the bias that went on, stop opening this topic at every chance.
Sorry but Tatum was cold shooting wise leading to the Olympics. Booker was definitely a better choice. He’s a better mid range. Smdh
Bontemps interrupted people all the time it's hilarious he gets triggered when it's the other way around lmao
baller d'or...? ae you kidding me? yall should get sued for this
Dude, what is this podcast. Its quite obvious the relationship has soured. And we are all watching it in real time. Botemps theirs really no excuse dude, Windys not even the type of person to provoke that.
Criminally disrespected. If it isn’t Jayson Tatum please stop covering basketball
Hmm, doesn’t seem like “winning” is a big factor for this award - as far as Windy is concerned
Spicy pod. Got off the rails a bit
Windy’s tatum takes are horrible
Bontemps what on earth? You nominate Tatum? 20:23 .
the best Calendar is for those two teams who ar on top of their divisions.
I notice the EFC MVP, Finals MVP wasn't nominated. I have a feeling if he's nominated, he wins. But wasn't included. Odd.