Stunning Sounds & Simple Functions // GEWA PP-3 Stage Piano // Full Review & Demo...
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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@keysreview4075 recently spent some time with a GEWA PP-3 Stage Piano. Filmed at Cube Studios (Cornwall, UK), September 2022 - check out what the team found in the video and leave us a comment below to let us know your thoughts!!
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02:18 - Introduction
06:31 - Sound(s) Demo #01
07:22 - Sound(s) Demo #02
08:55 - Sound(s) Demo #03
09:46 - Thoughts & Conclusions
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It is true that the piano sound is a rather nice one. However, I have quite a set of reservation on this PP-3 (I know as I owned it and compared to other brands).
1. The oversimplistic operation with only 1 shift button and 4 select buttons is really a big downside
2. All operations like reverb, enhanced operation etc. only by app. And only 4 set ups can be saved then linked
to buttons 1 to 4 via SHIFT first.
3. If you play grand piano on #1 and want to for instance switch to a save layer (piano + strings) you have to press SHIFT
and then your saved key it being & to 4. By doing so you will absolutely interrupt the current tone (e.g. holding by sustain
pedal >> switching SHIFT + Save Buttong 1 thru 4, and boom your sound has a full interruption.
4. Seamless switching only with a group. (E.g. Buttons 1 to 4) or SHIFT plus Buttons 1 to 4)
5. Same for using the app. Makes no difference. If the app is still available in the future, no one knows.
So, you will really have the added expense of a tablet (and I really recommend an iPad for this). A smartphone's screen is too
small for good operation. Bluetooth Only! There is no way to connect via USB and control instead of BT which would also get
rid of the horrible latency, when for instance using another software based module like Numa Player. Also app gets sluggish
when going to the more advanced pages / tabs.
6. The piano sound is really nice and polyphony of 256 voices is certainkly welcome. Also the standard accessory pedal works
quite well. Keybed is also quite nice (of course is not a Roland PH4 action (quite lighter) but works well.
7. No Audio over BT Midi! ONyl standard MIDI over USB and that's it.
8. THE MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM one really has to consider is this :
- The speakers are bad. I mean really bad. Flat sounding. No weight or heft and they do not do justice to the fine piano sound.
- Ok then, why not using the Line Out or Headphone? Go ahead and be surprised that the headphone out level is quite low and
might cause a very low volume depending on the impenace of your headphone.
- LINE OUT (which is as should be a fixed level type) is absolutely too low and missing at least 3 to 6dB of norm level.
- Alternatively using the headphone socket as line out is also possible tinking a bit more oompf there. Unforutnately not so
much of a difference. It amkes things even a bit more worse as it jacks up something the amp stage is plagued with.
The cause here is quite some excessive noise (hiss). The amp is quite dirty and does not have a good S/N ratio which is rare
nowadays. I had to bump up my studio interface to max. and also the gain of my studio monitors quite high.
Also there is quite some artefacts from the power adaptor which is a very cheap affair with a lot of interference induced into
the PP-3's amp stage. The pwr adaptor is also missing any ferrite core to dampen those bad signals from the switch type
power adaptor. I used a different one (of lab quality which got rid of all the electronic noise and worked fine). Then I could
better hear the good piano sounds. However, the low LINE OUT & HEADPHONE level problem remains.
And NO. This instrument is NOT made in Germany. It is "Engineered in Germany" which is a marketing speach thing making you
believe it is a german product. As it also says on the box, guess what? Made in China. That is not a bad thing per se. Besides I have it on very good technical information that e.g it shares the basic chassis of another manufacturer and I can say it is true, as I had them both (no other names here). I think the main pcb might be different (e.G. DREAM chip as sound generator, more generous sample for the Grand Piano, Piano Technician mode over BT, supposedly different keybed though I felt no difference at all - Only surface texture being different but action identical almost).
However, GEWA has taken simplicity of this ePiano to a level which I cannot comprehend and will proof to be a problem in years
to come once the app perhaps vanishes. Even big boys like Yamaha sometimes ditch apps as no longer supported. GEWA is certainly not in the same league as Yamaha to be very clear.
// A few more onboard controls or at least 4 more save buttons, a better output stage and better pwr adaptor coupled with a bit better speaker system (the whole chassis is vibrating at higher volumes and lower notes without giving good bass) and that's the
combo to go for //
Locks like GEWA wanted to enter the stage piano market with a quick shot from a multi vendor OEM producer and some retailers list it under stage piano. I cannot ever imagine that a sessioned musician would take that onto a stage and the sound engineer would go crazy about the noise. Portable home ePiano, yes. Besides, GEWA support seemingly does not like to answer support questions.
So should I ever go on a lockout for a higher class ePiano (even though they do have a good reputation here) besides my workstations and synthesizers, GEWA will not be on my shopping list for sure.
I'm choosing between this model and the Roland FP 30X. Thank you for such a detailed review. I realized that it was better to take a Roland
Thanks for this heads-up. When watching reviews like this I always hope for some info on connectivity and usability critiques... but they rarely do (lol).
This keyboard has all I am looking for. Can’t wait to buy it!
Glad to see you back reviewing! Any chance there's a Studiologic Numa X review coming? Really wanting to see an honest review on it.
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great Sounds very good playing thanks...
It's nice to see another decent entry level piano. Apps for controlling DPs are already quite common, though not every model has them. As a gigging musician, I still prefer lots of onboard controls, and a built-in screen too, but this DP wasn't made for heavy gigging, I realise.
The problem is, how do you get these instruments where the buying public can try them? I hope they'll appear in some high street music shops, and that sales won't be entirely dependent on the internet.
What sort of speakers are onboard, and how is the sound captured on this video?
Perhaps I'll be repeatitive, but Grand piano 1 is AMAZING!!!!! MORE I listen to it and MORE I like its warm and round sound!!! It's excellent, expecially with the use of headphone!!!!! 👌👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
How do you find the Piano sounds vs. Roland FP-30? And vs. Donner?
Testing for some weeks now this DP, I find very convenient its use thru the app included and the simplicity of the few buttons offered. The sounds included are of an interesting quality, especially regarding its price category. No doubt that the "piano no 1" thru the headphones is of premium level too. The keybed is descent and the 3 pedal base a little unstable. Should come back later with more remarks as time goes by.
Hey men do you have any updates? I'm planning to buy this digital piano, the only thing that worries me is the keybed, do you find it to be noisy or cheap at all?
@@rodrigotorres7306 Hello, I find it quite silent, there is also the possibility to change the parameters of the keybed "touch" using the app provided. After all maybe it is not VFM but - at least as a piano - it sounds nice and seems and looks well made.
@@56kanes Oohh i see, can please ask you two more questions?
I'm planning to buy it thru thomann's website, It says that the keys have ivory touch, but i couldn't confirm this on UA-cam videos neither the gewa website, Is that true? Does the white keys have some kind of micro-textured on top, or Is a Shiny finish like Yamaha keyboards?
And in your opinion, what will be the thing that you didn't like about this DP? Would It be maybe the three pedal support? Do you advice to buy a different one?
Thanks for the Time and effort
There is no ivory touch. I bought it with the 3 pedal base that makes it a substitute for a classic piano. I would like a wider variety of sounds ( it has built-in about 16) but the main advantage still remains the piano sound. Buy it if you stand on the piano side rather than that on the multi-sounds keyboard organ.
@@56kanes Thank you so much for helping me with this, take care!
About my opinion this pp3 is a good digital piano in its price range, very competitive. Surely at the comparison with other models like Roland fp30x, Yamaha p125 or Kawai es120 theresn't competition expecially for no outputs enough( there's only one!!) a few sounds(Fp30x has 54 sound to select). With € 60/70 more than pp3 as price it's possible to buy one of three models spoken already. However if should make more interesting videos like this, pp3 could be sold by many people, without any doubt!!!! The acoustic piano voices, expecially 1 is wonderful!! 👌👌👍👍
Antonio Perillo, the price seems to have dropped a bit. It is now nearer in price to the P-45 and the FP-10. And it seems a lot better than those. It does seem to have an auxiliary output and input. The P-45 has neither of those. I suspect I'd prefer an Alesis Prestige or Prestige Artist, but without testing the main sounds side by side...
Sorry mate. It is certainly not in the realm of a Roland FP30X neither Kawai ES120. Alone the keybed (although not bad) is in no way comparable to the PH4 from Roland for instance. Also the onboard speakers are pure bad sounding units. The Grand Piano sample is really not bad but get ready to have a low volume sound (or very sensitive headphones) and you can pretty much forget the Line Output or even the Headphone Out (via Y TRS adapter) as it is plagued with some noise from the power adaptor and also quite low level. This means you have to ramp up the gain on the following stage which introduces more hiss & noise. And yes, I had them all already, except the Kawai ES120 (but I played it quite some time) >> Better even to get then the ES110 if still stocked somewhere (This because Kawai did away the nice pedal unit from the ES110 as a standard accessory and now the ES120 comes with a cheap plastic ON/OFF unit. Call it economy enhancement for the sake of squeezing out the last bit and thinking customers are stupid not to see.
Roland FP 10 is amazing for its cost. I had one.
Lots of background noice, hope it aint keyboard's output..
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Alas, too much synthetic sharp metal sounds far from piano...in this price range better the other Japan's models