As a cache owner, I never delete any ones log. The last thing I want to do is discourage a geocacher, especially a new cacher. Like you said, we all play this caching hobby differently.
I like that perspective. I can see someone getting their log deleted for this reason may make them want to stop playing. I wouldn't want them to quit the hobby over that. I want new cachers to have fun and enjoy the hobby.
What I'd do in this situation is what I do whenever I've located a cache, I can see/feel it, and I'm certain it is in fact the cache, but I can't actually access it to sign the log (whether its because there's bees in the way, or it's lodged too deep in the crack of a tree and is stuck there, or whatever else): I just write a note. I don't claim it as a find, as I think the whole "signing the physical logsheet" bit is important (excluding instances where it's genuinely unsignable, like as a result of being a soggy wad of pulp and not having a replacement log sheet), but I don't log a DNF either, as I did *find* it, I *know* it's there, I just can't *sign* it. For my purposes, the note log is essentially just a "come back to this one sometime else" notice, and a notice to others that, "hey, it's still here, but good luck getting it". I don't recall if I ever was stopped by bees that I wasn't already aware of (I can think of many caches that I haven't gotten my hands on because other cachers have made it clear that wasps are in the area, so I just don't bother), but that "lodged too deep in a tree" mention is recalling a specific instance for me. Another couple cachers came after me and noted the same thing (though I think they did actual find/DNF logs), and eventually the CO put a replacement in the same spot that shouldn't get stuck. Have yet to make it back out there to find it though. I also add these caches (and my actual DNFs) to my watch list, to get updates on if anyone else finds it, or mentions that the wasps are gone, or if the cache just gets DNF after DNF or disabled/archived because of said wasps.
I completely respect only wanting to claim the cache if you can physically sign the log. Notes are super helpful. I try to read ahead before I find a cache to see if I need to be aware of anything before I attempt to find it when I can. I appreciate that you leave a note. It is helpful to others that will take the time to read it. I agree. Adding those kinds of caches to the watch list is great when we want to be notified if anything changed with the cache. Thank you for perspective on this. 😊
I've done that with spiders before. I've found a cache that had a spider build a nest ALL OVER the cache. I claimed it as a find even though I didn't sign the logbook. I did take a picture of it to send to the CO and I said he could delete my log if they felt like it.
I have face checked so many spider webs while geocaching which isn't fun but I'd take that over a spider nest. Just the idea that a bunch of little spider babies are right there...yikes! I think it is a good idea to let the cache owner know we are fine if they want to delete it. I don't want them to feel bad or that they will create enemies with this game.
We all have had our run-ins with bees, wasps, and hornets, in our geocaching excursions. I have been stung numerous times, and it is no fun. Just recently, we opened a fake power box, just to find out that wasps had taken up residence inside. We could see the secondary container there, but didn’t want to disturb the wasps any more than we already had. So we took a picture of the cache and wasps nest, sent it to the CO, and claimed the find.
Thank you! I think taking a picture is a great idea just in case the owner really wants proof you were there. Plus they can also see what they are in for when they come out to do maintenance.
I normally write a note saying I could not sign the log due to wasp/bees. If the CO allows me to claim it then I will. As a CO I would allow someone to log it as a find as I never want anyone to be harmed. Keep those videos coming.
Thank you for your response as a finder and hider. That is a good point. I wouldn't want anyone to get hurt just to get their name on a piece of paper on a cache I owned. Especially if it is an easy difficulty. You got it! I will try and keep making videos.
As someone who is allergic to bee stings, I am very cautious about sticking my hand into places I cannot see. I will log caches if I am not from the area and will not be back to the area if I can see the cache but can't access the paper log. Usually I'll take a photo for proof. For "hometown" caches, if I can't get to the log I will just come back. I don't usually even write a DNF unless there is something I want the CO to know about.
having an allergy would add an extra layer of caution for me. do you have to carry an EpiPen or something with you when you geocache just in case you were to get stung?
We make every attempt we can to sign the log, we carry extra paper in case the log is soggy, but if all else fails, we simply take a picture and log it
They say the triangle on your face from the bridge of nose to the corners of your mouth is a very sensitive and nerve dense place. I believe a wasp sting would do that. Personally I wouldn’t even try to touch the cache, but whether the owner of the cache or a finder, I personally don’t believe in spraying bees/wasps unless they’re terrorizing me at my own front door. I’d say maybe that’s just a beautiful little extra challenge from Mother Nature to give you a reason to come back in the colder season if you wanted to. But if you physically put eyes on the cache container, that’s a find all day long.
I didn't know that was a more sensitive area but that makes sense. I wouldn't want to spray them anyway. I would be afraid they would attack me lol Bees I like, wasps not so much. That is true. I could always go back when it is colder.
I take a picture of the cache and send it to the co if the log is unsingable or missing and I don't have replacement with me. I have not come across the bee scenario before, but I would probably do the same. This is supposed to be fun not painful.
I’ve encountered spiders and ants- of ants especially in grassy areas where geocaches provide a nice warm dry home for insects. I managed to shake them off to sign the log but I still had a creepy crawly feeling as i walked back to the car. Then most risky thing I’ve encountered near a cache was used hypodermic needles. Twice! Pretty scary thinking I (or a kid) might have gotten poked if they weren’t careful. In those cases I left a log warning other cachers to beware.
I hate that feeling of ants possibly crawling around on me. I think I may still reach for the cache if it was just ants but who knows. If they were red looking fire ants, nope, no way. 🤣 Sorry you ran into needles while geocaching. That sounds scarier than these bugs. I hope you don't run into any more.
at a LPC cache, I lifted it up and there were hundreds of Yellow Jackets under it, slammed it town and took off for the car, messaged the CO with the info, CO messaged back to claim the cache and he would go out a spray them
Thankfully I haven't found any caches close to a wasp nest. I would have to move on to another and not claim it as I won't claim it unless I signed a log. Fortunately we have plenty to find in our area. Thanks for the video.
I would allow the find if they give a good reason for not logging. I have claimed several that I was unable to sign, too wet of a log sheet, black widow spider on the container, a rattle snake at one ammo can but I always wrote about what the reason was. I have removed some who claimed but it was pretty obvious they had not been there, they were claiming a lot of finds in spread out areas in one day and over the course of a couple of weeks had amassed thousands of finds.
@@popawalker yeah I have a friend who owns some of the northest caches in Québec province (near the Arctic) and has had many fake logs of cachers seemingly logging his caches and other caches all around the world on the same day.
Whoa a rattle snake by the geocache!! That is a big nope from me. No way would I try to grab that cache. Sounds like you spotted an actual armchair logger. I completely understand deleting those finds as a cache owner.
I would add it as a comment, if possible. You did find it, and looks like you photographed it, but could not sign the log. It's like a wet or missing log, except you can't replace it. Sounds like a legitimate find and good that you reported the danger.
I would take a picture if it was safe to do so and send that as a message to the CO as proof that I was at least there. I would also describe in my digital log and to the CO what I came across and why I didn't sign the log. Also adding "delete if you want to" to the log. As a CO myself, I would accept from a finder just what I described. I would be very tempted to delete their log without any picture evidence.
I have a spirit quest cache that gets earwigs every fall. I allow all the finds that say to creepy to touch. As fir the one I find with bees or other things. Like we found one that squirrels made into a home. I send the CO a picture and a short note.
Yuck earwigs! I don't even think they attack people but I wouldn't want to touch them. Thank you for letting me know what you would do as a cache owner and finder.
For my own personal finds, I feel that you need to physically sign the log to log the find, so I would log it as a DNF and come back in a different season. However, as a cache owner, I would not delete the person's log who claimed it as a find but mentioned that they couldn't sign due to a wasp/hornet. I understand people play the game in different ways, and maybe they won't be back in the area. It's just a game after all right? If they made a valid attempt, but couldn't sign, I am ok with that.
Thank you for that perspective as a finder and a hider. Yep, it is just a game and that is nice of you to still let people have credit for the find if they did make a valid attempt. I also respect you not wanting to claim it if you can't actually sign the log yourself.
If my name doesn't make it on the log for whatever reason, I do not claim it as a find. If the reason for not being able to sign it is because of bees, wasps, hornets, poison ivy etc, I DNF it stating the reason why and return to it during the winter months if possible. Hopefully, because I explained the reason for the DNF, the CO will be proactive by resolving the issue (with wasp/hornet spray). If the log is too wet to sign, I replace it with a RITR log sheet and replace any missing o-rings too as I never geocache without my cache bag.
I respect that. I completely understand if the name is not on the log to not actually claim it. Can I ask why you use DNF instead of owner attention requested? I am not completely sure but I think the CO may get notified sooner with that log type over a DNF. I am not positive on this though. That is awesome that your help replace wet logs. I love RITR paper! Wow you even replace the o-rings. That is one thing I have never carried in my geobag and I totally should. Thank you for mentioning that!
@@Stardustzzz the DNF is more for me to keep track of the caches that I need to return to find/sign at a later date, but I make sure to explain why I didn't sign it so the CO knows that the cache, or its immediate area, needs tending to. I maintain a large inventory of o-rings of the 4 most commonly used sizes in my cache bag along with various other cache maintenance items (4 different sizes of ziplocs, 4 different sizes of RITR log sheets, etc) as well as various TOTTs. I purchase the o-rings from Lowes in the plumbing section.
@@N4sir98 Thank you! That makes sense. It is easy to see our DNFs. I am not even sure if I can easily see which caches I may have marked needed maintenance or COs attention on. I do also keep ziploc baggies of various sizes and logs of various sizes in my bag. I will definitely look into the o-rings though. I have found so many bison tubes where those are missing. I appreciate you for that idea!
@@Stardustzzz Danco brand o-ring sizes #6, #7, and #35 are the most common sizes for nanos and bisons. They come in packs of 10, so I maintain a couple packs of each size and keep them all in one small medicine bottle in my cache bag. BTW, it's awesome to see you back making videos. My wife and I love watching your videos. We recently conquered the 5/5 cache located in one of the abandoned Turnpike Tunnels and we had wondered while we were there if you've already found it. Have you visited GC32GZC yet?
Am like you I would log it and if I can take a picture of the bee/ wasps and post that to prove it. I out caching one hot summer day and I almost stepped on a copperhead snake. I told him that the cache was his and I left. I came back several weeks later and still couldn’t bring myself to go try for the cache. So I waited for winter and one very cold day to go get it. Now I live in Texas and that was a long wait to go back for that cache.
Oh wow! I wouldn't have wanted to even attempt to grab a cache with a copperhead right there. I am with you on that. Even if someone told me the snake, wasps, spiders etc were gone, I may be too hesitant to go out and check. I am glad you did eventually get to claim that one 😊
It really depends on the log. The other day I deleted a log because the cacher commented on what the container is. In my description I do not say what the container is so I decided to delete the log. So, yeah, it really depends on the log they write. Thanks for what you do......
Thank you! You are right, it depends on the situation. In that situation as the cache owner, did you reach out to the finder to let them know you were deleting it? I am just curious. would you let them re-log their find if they left out what the container is in their comment?
ooh ya a gadget cache! I would actually want to be able to do whatever is needed to obtain the log for something like that. I would come back for sure once bees, spiders, or whatever was removed.
I have no problem deleting a log if it was falsified. But if the geocacher explains the reason they did not sign the log, I extend a lot of grace. Even more so if they include a picture. The only hide I monitor is my virtual hide. It took so much time and effort to create I do not want arm-chair cachers stealing the smiley from those that make the effort to find it.
I appreciate your perspective as a cache hider. I feel like virtuals are one of those caches that people arm chair log the most. I have no proof of this though. Virtuals are awesome and take you to some great places and teach you things you may not have known before. That is a cache I will gladly drive to and check it out.
I'm just a newbie with less than 40 founds but I noticed a cache with lost container got logged as "found" by a few geocachers here in the neighborhood and for me personally that doesn't feel right... It makes me wonder if those people actually made the effort to find and sign the logbook or sometimes just log it as "found" when they found the location? 🤷🏼♀️ For me personally it only counts as "found" if I was able to sign my name in the logbook .. orherwise I'll come back 🤪
I'm tempted to say log it. You found it, bu through no fault of your own weren't able to sign the log.
It is a tricky situation.
As a cache owner, I never delete any ones log. The last thing I want to do is discourage a geocacher, especially a new cacher. Like you said, we all play this caching hobby differently.
I like that perspective. I can see someone getting their log deleted for this reason may make them want to stop playing. I wouldn't want them to quit the hobby over that. I want new cachers to have fun and enjoy the hobby.
What I'd do in this situation is what I do whenever I've located a cache, I can see/feel it, and I'm certain it is in fact the cache, but I can't actually access it to sign the log (whether its because there's bees in the way, or it's lodged too deep in the crack of a tree and is stuck there, or whatever else): I just write a note.
I don't claim it as a find, as I think the whole "signing the physical logsheet" bit is important (excluding instances where it's genuinely unsignable, like as a result of being a soggy wad of pulp and not having a replacement log sheet), but I don't log a DNF either, as I did *find* it, I *know* it's there, I just can't *sign* it. For my purposes, the note log is essentially just a "come back to this one sometime else" notice, and a notice to others that, "hey, it's still here, but good luck getting it". I don't recall if I ever was stopped by bees that I wasn't already aware of (I can think of many caches that I haven't gotten my hands on because other cachers have made it clear that wasps are in the area, so I just don't bother), but that "lodged too deep in a tree" mention is recalling a specific instance for me. Another couple cachers came after me and noted the same thing (though I think they did actual find/DNF logs), and eventually the CO put a replacement in the same spot that shouldn't get stuck. Have yet to make it back out there to find it though.
I also add these caches (and my actual DNFs) to my watch list, to get updates on if anyone else finds it, or mentions that the wasps are gone, or if the cache just gets DNF after DNF or disabled/archived because of said wasps.
I completely respect only wanting to claim the cache if you can physically sign the log. Notes are super helpful. I try to read ahead before I find a cache to see if I need to be aware of anything before I attempt to find it when I can. I appreciate that you leave a note. It is helpful to others that will take the time to read it. I agree. Adding those kinds of caches to the watch list is great when we want to be notified if anything changed with the cache. Thank you for perspective on this. 😊
I've done that with spiders before. I've found a cache that had a spider build a nest ALL OVER the cache. I claimed it as a find even though I didn't sign the logbook. I did take a picture of it to send to the CO and I said he could delete my log if they felt like it.
I have face checked so many spider webs while geocaching which isn't fun but I'd take that over a spider nest. Just the idea that a bunch of little spider babies are right there...yikes! I think it is a good idea to let the cache owner know we are fine if they want to delete it. I don't want them to feel bad or that they will create enemies with this game.
We all have had our run-ins with bees, wasps, and hornets, in our geocaching excursions. I have been stung numerous times, and it is no fun.
Just recently, we opened a fake power box, just to find out that wasps had taken up residence inside.
We could see the secondary container there, but didn’t want to disturb the wasps any more than we already had. So we took a picture of the cache and wasps nest, sent it to the CO, and claimed the find.
Thank you! I think taking a picture is a great idea just in case the owner really wants proof you were there. Plus they can also see what they are in for when they come out to do maintenance.
I normally write a note saying I could not sign the log due to wasp/bees. If the CO allows me to claim it then I will. As a CO I would allow someone to log it as a find as I never want anyone to be harmed. Keep those videos coming.
Thank you for your response as a finder and hider. That is a good point. I wouldn't want anyone to get hurt just to get their name on a piece of paper on a cache I owned. Especially if it is an easy difficulty. You got it! I will try and keep making videos.
As someone who is allergic to bee stings, I am very cautious about sticking my hand into places I cannot see. I will log caches if I am not from the area and will not be back to the area if I can see the cache but can't access the paper log. Usually I'll take a photo for proof. For "hometown" caches, if I can't get to the log I will just come back. I don't usually even write a DNF unless there is something I want the CO to know about.
having an allergy would add an extra layer of caution for me. do you have to carry an EpiPen or something with you when you geocache just in case you were to get stung?
We make every attempt we can to sign the log, we carry extra paper in case the log is soggy, but if all else fails, we simply take a picture and log it
having extra logs is great to have handy when needed. Thank you for letting me know what you would do in those situations 😊
They say the triangle on your face from the bridge of nose to the corners of your mouth is a very sensitive and nerve dense place. I believe a wasp sting would do that. Personally I wouldn’t even try to touch the cache, but whether the owner of the cache or a finder, I personally don’t believe in spraying bees/wasps unless they’re terrorizing me at my own front door. I’d say maybe that’s just a beautiful little extra challenge from Mother Nature to give you a reason to come back in the colder season if you wanted to. But if you physically put eyes on the cache container, that’s a find all day long.
I didn't know that was a more sensitive area but that makes sense. I wouldn't want to spray them anyway. I would be afraid they would attack me lol Bees I like, wasps not so much. That is true. I could always go back when it is colder.
I take a picture of the cache and send it to the co if the log is unsingable or missing and I don't have replacement with me. I have not come across the bee scenario before, but I would probably do the same. This is supposed to be fun not painful.
I’ve encountered spiders and ants- of ants especially in grassy areas where geocaches provide a nice warm dry home for insects. I managed to shake them off to sign the log but I still had a creepy crawly feeling as i walked back to the car.
Then most risky thing I’ve encountered near a cache was used hypodermic needles. Twice! Pretty scary thinking I (or a kid) might have gotten poked if they weren’t careful. In those cases I left a log warning other cachers to beware.
I hate that feeling of ants possibly crawling around on me. I think I may still reach for the cache if it was just ants but who knows. If they were red looking fire ants, nope, no way. 🤣
Sorry you ran into needles while geocaching. That sounds scarier than these bugs. I hope you don't run into any more.
@@Stardustzzzthankfully I haven’t since but I’m definitely always careful to look first before allowing any kids to put their hands in dark places.
at a LPC cache, I lifted it up and there were hundreds of Yellow Jackets under it, slammed it town and took off for the car, messaged the CO with the info, CO messaged back to claim the cache and he would go out a spray them
Yikes! I am freaking out over here just at the thought of that. I hope you got away without being stung. That was nice of the CO to let you claim it.
Thankfully I haven't found any caches close to a wasp nest. I would have to move on to another and not claim it as I won't claim it unless I signed a log. Fortunately we have plenty to find in our area. Thanks for the video.
Wow that is very lucky to never run into any wasps while caching. I hope your streak continues! I respect not claiming it if you can't sign it.
I would allow the find if they give a good reason for not logging. I have claimed several that I was unable to sign, too wet of a log sheet, black widow spider on the container, a rattle snake at one ammo can but I always wrote about what the reason was. I have removed some who claimed but it was pretty obvious they had not been there, they were claiming a lot of finds in spread out areas in one day and over the course of a couple of weeks had amassed thousands of finds.
@@popawalker yeah I have a friend who owns some of the northest caches in Québec province (near the Arctic) and has had many fake logs of cachers seemingly logging his caches and other caches all around the world on the same day.
Whoa a rattle snake by the geocache!! That is a big nope from me. No way would I try to grab that cache. Sounds like you spotted an actual armchair logger. I completely understand deleting those finds as a cache owner.
around the world in one day. Did I miss the memo on time travel being invented? 🤣
@@Stardustzzz haha exactly
I would add it as a comment, if possible. You did find it, and looks like you photographed it, but could not sign the log. It's like a wet or missing log, except you can't replace it. Sounds like a legitimate find and good that you reported the danger.
I agree. I think reporting it if anything is the right thing to do for the cache owner and for those finding it next.
I would take a picture if it was safe to do so and send that as a message to the CO as proof that I was at least there. I would also describe in my digital log and to the CO what I came across and why I didn't sign the log. Also adding "delete if you want to" to the log.
As a CO myself, I would accept from a finder just what I described. I would be very tempted to delete their log without any picture evidence.
Thank you for letting me know what you would do as a hider and finder.
I have a spirit quest cache that gets earwigs every fall. I allow all the finds that say to creepy to touch. As fir the one I find with bees or other things. Like we found one that squirrels made into a home. I send the CO a picture and a short note.
Yuck earwigs! I don't even think they attack people but I wouldn't want to touch them. Thank you for letting me know what you would do as a cache owner and finder.
For my own personal finds, I feel that you need to physically sign the log to log the find, so I would log it as a DNF and come back in a different season. However, as a cache owner, I would not delete the person's log who claimed it as a find but mentioned that they couldn't sign due to a wasp/hornet. I understand people play the game in different ways, and maybe they won't be back in the area. It's just a game after all right? If they made a valid attempt, but couldn't sign, I am ok with that.
Thank you for that perspective as a finder and a hider. Yep, it is just a game and that is nice of you to still let people have credit for the find if they did make a valid attempt. I also respect you not wanting to claim it if you can't actually sign the log yourself.
As a cache owner, I would have left you make the find and would have made a maintenance... With an anti-bee spray ;)
Thank you!
If my name doesn't make it on the log for whatever reason, I do not claim it as a find. If the reason for not being able to sign it is because of bees, wasps, hornets, poison ivy etc, I DNF it stating the reason why and return to it during the winter months if possible. Hopefully, because I explained the reason for the DNF, the CO will be proactive by resolving the issue (with wasp/hornet spray). If the log is too wet to sign, I replace it with a RITR log sheet and replace any missing o-rings too as I never geocache without my cache bag.
I respect that. I completely understand if the name is not on the log to not actually claim it. Can I ask why you use DNF instead of owner attention requested? I am not completely sure but I think the CO may get notified sooner with that log type over a DNF. I am not positive on this though. That is awesome that your help replace wet logs. I love RITR paper! Wow you even replace the o-rings. That is one thing I have never carried in my geobag and I totally should. Thank you for mentioning that!
@@Stardustzzz the DNF is more for me to keep track of the caches that I need to return to find/sign at a later date, but I make sure to explain why I didn't sign it so the CO knows that the cache, or its immediate area, needs tending to.
I maintain a large inventory of o-rings of the 4 most commonly used sizes in my cache bag along with various other cache maintenance items (4 different sizes of ziplocs, 4 different sizes of RITR log sheets, etc) as well as various TOTTs. I purchase the o-rings from Lowes in the plumbing section.
@@N4sir98 Thank you! That makes sense. It is easy to see our DNFs. I am not even sure if I can easily see which caches I may have marked needed maintenance or COs attention on.
I do also keep ziploc baggies of various sizes and logs of various sizes in my bag. I will definitely look into the o-rings though. I have found so many bison tubes where those are missing. I appreciate you for that idea!
@@Stardustzzz Danco brand o-ring sizes #6, #7, and #35 are the most common sizes for nanos and bisons. They come in packs of 10, so I maintain a couple packs of each size and keep them all in one small medicine bottle in my cache bag.
BTW, it's awesome to see you back making videos. My wife and I love watching your videos. We recently conquered the 5/5 cache located in one of the abandoned Turnpike Tunnels and we had wondered while we were there if you've already found it. Have you visited GC32GZC yet?
Am like you I would log it and if I can take a picture of the bee/ wasps and post that to prove it. I out caching one hot summer day and I almost stepped on a copperhead snake. I told him that the cache was his and I left. I came back several weeks later and still couldn’t bring myself to go try for the cache. So I waited for winter and one very cold day to go get it. Now I live in Texas and that was a long wait to go back for that cache.
Oh wow! I wouldn't have wanted to even attempt to grab a cache with a copperhead right there. I am with you on that. Even if someone told me the snake, wasps, spiders etc were gone, I may be too hesitant to go out and check. I am glad you did eventually get to claim that one 😊
It really depends on the log. The other day I deleted a log because the cacher commented on what the container is. In my description I do not say what the container is so I decided to delete the log. So, yeah, it really depends on the log they write. Thanks for what you do......
Thank you! You are right, it depends on the situation. In that situation as the cache owner, did you reach out to the finder to let them know you were deleting it? I am just curious. would you let them re-log their find if they left out what the container is in their comment?
@Stardustzzz yes they were notified and they can log the cache again if they don't say what the cache is.
@@silly6004 awesome! I think that is great you contact them to let them know why it was deleted and give them a chance to fix it. 😊
Depends on the cache if it's just a regular old cache I take a picture and explain to the co in my log if a gadget cache it would be a dnf
ooh ya a gadget cache! I would actually want to be able to do whatever is needed to obtain the log for something like that. I would come back for sure once bees, spiders, or whatever was removed.
If I go to my cache and it is as they say, they keep their log and I spray the nest to make it safe for the next cacher.
Thank you! I appreciate you letting people keep their find if the cache does have a nest.
I have no problem deleting a log if it was falsified. But if the geocacher explains the reason they did not sign the log, I extend a lot of grace. Even more so if they include a picture. The only hide I monitor is my virtual hide. It took so much time and effort to create I do not want arm-chair cachers stealing the smiley from those that make the effort to find it.
I appreciate your perspective as a cache hider. I feel like virtuals are one of those caches that people arm chair log the most. I have no proof of this though. Virtuals are awesome and take you to some great places and teach you things you may not have known before. That is a cache I will gladly drive to and check it out.
Myself, if I didn’t sign it, I wouldn’t log it online. I wouldn’t delete anyone’s log if they did.
I'm just a newbie with less than 40 founds but I noticed a cache with lost container got logged as "found" by a few geocachers here in the neighborhood and for me personally that doesn't feel right...
It makes me wonder if those people actually made the effort to find and sign the logbook or sometimes just log it as "found" when they found the location? 🤷🏼♀️
For me personally it only counts as "found" if I was able to sign my name in the logbook .. orherwise I'll come back 🤪
I’d log that despite not signing the log book
Thank you for letting me know!
If i cant log a cache beacuse of something in nature stop me, eg snake or a bee. I ask CO if it's okey to log it.
Hi Jamie.. when are you going to make new videos of you geocaching?
Hey Stone. I don't have a car so it has been challenging to go out and geocache. I need to buy a car 🤣