REAL OR NOT? HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAKE AND REAL ANTIQUE DOLLS
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- There is a big difference between a beautifully made artist reproduction correctly signed by the artist and a "fake" antique doll made to pass off as an antique. Luckily, most makers want to sign their work and accurately produce dolls. In the 1970s, however, many dolls were made to pretend to be the "real thing" and sold to unsuspecting people as antique dolls. These dolls have some telltale signs that we discuss in this video. Remember, not all dolls are produced to be fakes, but they do exist. Don't let this video scare you; it's just a discussion. Use your gut and study as much as you can.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 INTRO
01:55 HOLLAND DIANE ENTERS THE SHOP
04:29 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MY SHOP
05:54 THE FAKE DOLLS
07:13 THE DETAIL IN THE LIPS
08:11 THE EYE CORNERS
09:24 THE EYEBROWS
10:33 THE INSIDE OF THE HEAD
10:40 ANTIQUE FABRIC ON WIG CAP
10:56 THE MARKINGS
12:19 ARTIST SIGNATURE
15:44 REPRODUCTION FASHION DOLL
18:38 LYNDA MARX SIGNED REPRODUCTION
19:57 TWO FASHION DOLLS SIDE BY SIDE
22:30 CHATTING ABOUT DOLL COLLECTING
24:15 TWO GOOGLY DOLLS SIDE BY SIDE
26:46 WE ARE ALWAYS LEARNING - Розваги
Fake "antique" doll faces are generally unattractive to the more artistic eye. Once you've seen quite a few antique bisque originals, spotting a fake becomes much easier.
Agreed!
Interesting about real and fake dolls. Just like about reborn baby dolls that there is real reborn baby dolls and fake reborn baby dolls. I can tell different from these reborn baby dolls and some same way on any baby dolls and dolls in general. I learned more from you and Linda about fake and real dolls. She did great job explaining about fake and real dolls. Have a great day everyone.
Love to learn from you all. I haven't collected this type of doll but would love to get one of Linda's reproductions eventually. I definitely buy what I love NOT what I think I can resell. Other people do that and it's their intention to do that. I buy what I want to keep. Hugs to all of you and thanks so much again.
This was so informative! I feel more confident about looking at reproduction dolls and genuine antiques. I probably can only afford reproductions but now understand what to look for in a reputable reproduction. Linda’s doll is amazing and so beautiful!! Thank you to both of you!!
Glad it was helpful! We enjoyed making the video.
🌷 Thank you so very much Rachel & Linda for kindly sharing your wonderful breadth of knowledge 💕……..I really learnt a lot and found your video very educational and highlighting the differences in standards of doll making, Linda’s doll is stunning 💕……..I love my doll collection and enjoy a variety of types of dolls too, from BJD’s, antiques right down to play-line like Barbie…..You get that feeling of such joy and love and that shouldn’t distract from whether that doll is made of porcelain, resin, wood, plastic or fabric, if you love it and have cherished memories of it…..However, in my friendships with doll artists it makes me so sad & angry when all their years of hard work is simple stolen, copied and sold off as original works…..Anyway, thank you again and Holland-Diane is so beautiful 🌷💕.
So glad you enjoyed this. Come back for more! 👍🏻🎉
I got a wonderful little doll for just a few dollars. About 5 if I remember. If it's not antique really, I don't care. But I do believe she is old. I love her either way. Leta
This is a most interesting video. Fakes vs the "Real Deal." When purchasing a doll (knowledge is power). Thank u ladies!!
Too cute they. Holland Diane and Stanley are best friends forever. Love them together. Look awesome together.
Very informative video ❤ I would love to see a video on just composition shirley temple dolls either cleaning them or fixing them up, i don't mind. My face lit up when you showed that shirley doll for crazing example! I loveeee collecting them! Especially the 25/27 inch ❤ 💕 blessings 🙏
We have videos on our channel showing composition cleaning. Search “composition doll repair” and you’ll find content.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls yes I know that, I was saying I just wanted to see a video about only composition shirley temple dolls, just like you make videos about bisque dolls maybe a video in the future about only shirley temple dolls ❤ I'm just a big shirley fan 🙂
I second the above. I love Shirley Temple dolls.
Thank you Rachel and Linda, you always have so much information to share. I learned a new term (collarette) from this and will try to find more information about how it should be applied to my DESI doll.
So interesting!!! And I really appreciate Linda’s saying “Just love that doll!”🥰
Me too!! Thanks for watching!
A video field trip to Linda’s house to see her collection or studio. 😊
Great idea! I’ve always wanted to do that.
Oh yes pretty please!
What a joy to stumble onto your channel tonight. I was just looking for new info on cleaning compo dolls and you popped up. Great info Linda, and thanks to Rachael for all you do for us.
It's wonderful to hear that you found the channel and found it helpful! Compo dolls have such a rich history, and taking care of them can be a delightful journey. Linda's insights are always valuable, and it's a pleasure to share this knowledge with fellow doll enthusiasts like you. Here's to many more doll adventures together! 😊💕🎀
Joining all the others in Thanking You for this video. I enjoy all of your videos, but this one was definitely educational and helpful. Thanks! I appreciate all the knowledge you and Linda share.
Awesome! Thank you!
Really enjoyed this. I’ve made a few antique reproductions, learning more with each one. It’s fascinating to see the comparisons. Also, also enjoy watching Holland Diane growing up. So cute.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the kind words.
Thank you for making these videos, I am learning so much!
Extremely informative and helpful!! Thank you for the information!
Glad it was helpful!
This video is so incredibly helpful! ❤
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting. The nice thing about reproduction dolls is you can handle them and dress them. I would be terrified of breaking a real antique. Keep up the good work. Stay well and safe. From Tennessee
Thank you for joining us, Gale!
Yes! I love the look of antique dolls so much but I just want to constantly hold and admire them so I bought some beautiful reproductions from eBay. I’d love to own a genuine antique soon just to display😊
Great video! I have been buying dolls since 1985! I recently was very blessed to take a chance on a doll that showed a blurry picture of just the front of her. I had asked the auctioneer for a picture of the back of her head but he never sent one. To make a long story short I went for it and won the doll. I was so nervous and excited I had asked him the next day could he please send me close up of the face and back of the head which he did. Here it was an incised Depose Jumeau 7 with red v.t. artist initials . I have yet to take the cardboard pate off her head because it is glued in some places and I don't want to damage her at all. Don't know what happened to her cork pate and I also want to check inside her head for any damage. I see none on the putside. She is breathtaking. Someone did re-paint her body and it is a jointed wrist body so maybe the year made 1875? I have to find some nice shoes for her. Has Linda ever made french doll shoes? Holland Diane's hair is getting darker and growing! :)
Good information. Thank- you.
Hi Holland Diane!! Love that part of the video when she sees Stanley. They’re adorable. ❤ This was such an informative video. I do feel badly for someone that paid too much for something they thought was authentic. Thankfully, there’s your channel and other sources so that people don’t have to make that mistake again. The authentic dolls are breathtaking. The level of detail and paint. If I ever collected this type of doll, I’d definitely want a Jumeau. Wow! Thanks for another amazing video. 😊
Thank you so much for watching and for your kind comments. ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Enjoying your video's very much, love from Australia🇦🇺
I absolutely loved this video. I had saved it for a time I could really watch it, instead of just listen.
I use to tag along as a young teen with my moms friend an antique dealer/collector from the States in Berlin Germany in the 70s. Listening to Linda, whom I admire as an artist, I realize how my moms friend trained my eyes to spot the differences, and details in painting and bisque and also especially the eyes are a give away to a fake, they feel soul-less. Two things on the inside of that head would call alarm bells to me, the way they eyes are set in (to hide the fact the eyes are modern) and the "fake dirt" as I have seen inside many real antiques and artist reproduction and none had that kind of "ageing", it is different. I remember her saying there were a lot of fakes coming from the over the wall (East Block).
Great information. Thank you --- please do more doll chat.
More to come!
Very helpful for beginners...like me in the ancient dolls' world. Thank you
You are so welcome!
Thank you, Linda.
Dear Rachel and Linda, thank you! So interesting! As a Käthe Kruse collector I really do not know much about porcelain dolls and always like to see you both talking about these antique dolls, in this case fakes! I learnt a lot and will learn more, everytime I come back. Greets from Germany, Nicola
Our pleasure! Thank you for your kind comment and for joining us.
Beautiful dolls, great content.
Very interesting, thank you!! 👌🤗
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just a really great teaching experience! Thank you so much, Linda and Rachel. I am loving small inexpensive bisque dolls, (especially those marked Nippon) for my cabinet dolls' house, but when I see one that looks too new and perfect I wonder if it is a fake. But as the real ones can be bought up between $15 to $45, i also wonder if it is worth someone to fake such inexpensive dolls. I am new at collecting so any feedback is appreciated! I love your channel and also the videos you do with Michael and David.
Usually I see fakes on real expensive dolls, for what it’s worth. But I do see fakes with little all bisque dolls but the very expensive kind, usually not the ones you describe. Go with your gut! so glad you enjoyed it.
I'm learning so much from you, Ladies! I'm researching my own dolls, which are inexpensive, but lovely. I'm researching one doll that has high heels...not shoes, but legs. Nothing yet.
You are so welcome! Have fun researching!
In Europe we do have the original painting descriptions from the factory's, original molds so you would not be able to tell the difference. Every and all dolls were painted by different people in the factory so different eyebrows are very common, the difference in color is no clue either!
It can be very tricky!!
Hello Ms. Rachel…and to the very cute Holland Diane…I would like to know where we can find Ms. Linda’s dolls? Thank you ❤
We have some on the VDC website and Linda also has dolls for sale on her website www.uniquelyyoursporcelaindolls.com/reproduction-dolls-for-sale
Super cute!💗
i loved this video. I personally love the repro dolls. I often find them cheap in the thrift stores. I have a ton of the repro dolls. I have one that i think is an antique dream baby, She could be a repro. But it doesn't matter to me i love her. I got her for like $10 in a thrift store.
Definitely buy for love of doll not money . So agree. Glad to hear someone else say it
Holland Diane is growing like a weed♥️ Great information. It would be easy to get a fake when buying a doll sight unseen.😱
So true!
My great-great-grandmother was given a doll by Princesses Olga and Maria at a children's ball. my great-grandmother as a doll was in a blue dress and very beautiful and this doll doll turned out to be the same dressed in a blue dress and Grand Duchess Olga said, "This is your doll, she was waiting for you very much, and now you are her mistress.
I love to watch your video and i learn a lot. I have a question for you. I broken the legs of one of my porcelain doll. I would like to know what kind of paint to use because it is not the same as ceramic bisque. And it can't be fire because the body is fabric. Or recommand me a place i could find answer. Thank you for all the video.
So interesting and informative. Your baby is a doll herself.
Thank you so much!
Ohhh my the jumeau with the dark eyes.. she is wonderful!
Great information 🤩👍 I am thinking it’s cold in Denver right now and can’t help but wonder how Holland Diane could rest in the car? I am sure you have her safe, I just am sensitive to babies alone in cars…heat, cold, running the engine etc..
I think there’s some confusion as she’s never in a car by herself. She rests in the back with Stanley. Do you mean resting on the drive to work?
@Rachel Hoffman in your intro you say she rests in the car, that's what she's referring to.
Oh, yes. I have only done this twice at work and I sit in the car with her. I usually have to drive around the block a few times to get her to relax.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls When my son was a baby, taking him for a short ride was the best way to get him to nap.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls that definitely does the trick most of the time =) a nice car ride
Thank u for this video now I can spot a fake and how can I get one of ur repercussions I want the one with the red hair
Can you do a video on the fake googly dolls on ebay / selling sites, there’s an account that’s been selling fake googly dolls on their “original cards” or just dolls that look like authentic bisque antiques !
Those blasted fake dolls cards are such a pain! I don’t think I actually have any in the shop. But they are a very obvious when you see them.
I love artist reproduction dolls. Can you recommend websites where I can order these dolls? I’m looking for that reproduction doll by Lynda Marx
I might wonder if the head on the antique body had been broken and then replaced with a fake head. Although I wonder because my mother's doll from 1924 was dropped and my mother would yell into the head and sing into it, until her mother, my grandma had it replaced. I have the doll. I just wondered?
It could very well be!
what is the name of the doll with the red dress and the big brown eyes, please ?
That’s a Googly doll by a brand called Kestner. If you Google “221 Googly Kestner” you will see more examples from auction houses. One of my favorite dolls BTW
Those are some real fake dolls. 😂
I'm thinking about learning more about dolls. This was my grandmother's life long hobby. I'll be checking out more of your videos! Thank you
I love it
Love Linda
At an antique store I go too have real antique dolls next to fake antique dolls and its hard to know which one is real
They should label them correctly and then the buyer will know. We sell authorized reproductions here.
How can I buy Linda's reproduction?
Oh, Linda's in the middle of a big move to Oklahoma, so she's not creating at the moment. But keep an eye out! Once she's settled, we're sure she'll be back to her amazing work. 😊✨
thank you so much for the reply. I'll keep an eye out and please let us know when she starts her creations on the vids! thanks again. @@RachelHoffmanDolls
Rachel, Holland Diane is growing up so nicely and she is still just the cutest🧸😃😃💖💖💖💖💖!! It is so heart warming to see how much Stan loves Holland Diane🤗🤗💖💖💖💖💖!! And I really LOVED this video on Fakes vs. the Real thing with Dolls😃😃💖💖💖💖💖!! You can just see the rosy cheeks on the Jumeau as opposed to the anemic look on the fake Jumeau. And I too could have been highly confused because of the "added dirt" inside the head, Jumeau name on the antique body of the fake head, and the wig cap🤔🤔. And Linda's reproduction of a Jumeau is gorgeous😍😍🤩🤩💖💖💖💖💖!! You can just see the HUGE DIFFERENCE between Linda' doll😃😃💖💖💖💖💖 and the factory made doll😐😐👎👎👎. Plus, I could tell the fake leather vs. the real firm and well stuffed leather antique body!! And the Gussets look very antique too!! And Rachel, I really LOVE your Mom's antique Googly because the eyes on your Mom's Googly look like Holland Diane's eyes😃😃💙💙💙💙💙!! However, the fake Googly is not bad looking, but the real one is MUCH CUTER and has MUCH BETTER eye color than the fake Googly💙💙💙💙💙!! Thank you Rachel and Linda for this really fun and educational fake vs. real antique Dolls😃😃💖💖💖💖💖!! And Linda is really talented in making her beautiful reproduction dolls too😃😃👍👍👍👍👍!!!!
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What do you do with the fakes/ knock offs? Ebay with disclosure? Jennifer
I don’t sell them, I keep them for teaching examples.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Ahhh that makes sense... I wasnt sure if they were ever available... Thank you for the response
yes, she is like Holland Diane...so cute...
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I've accumulated quite a few dolls and just doll heads and i think one head is a fake or reproduction.
Nobody that collects dolls is weird. ❤️
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I know my old dolls are mostly reproductions(except my Ginnys and Betsys) I can't afford the genuine. It's fascinating, however, to learn. ❤
It’s amazing what some people spend time and money on!!…
Do you mean like making fakes? I agree as some of them are quite good, they could do better making originals!!
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Actually I meant this whole doll making/buying hobby. Adults SERIOUSLY playing with dolls is awkward.
Maybe for you. Not for us!
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Good luck 👍
Love to visit you all but Linda is my “First Lady”!
Love that!!
Love my baby dolls. Even I sleep with baby dolls with my Yorkie mix lol. Even I am 46 years old lol. Never too old to sleep with dolls lol.
Are you the shop on Broadway?
Yes.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls OMGOSH! I remember going to your shop in the late 1990s. I was absolutely mesmerized! I couldn’t take everything in! My eyes were everywhere! There were so many dolls I had never seen before. I remember so well. I’ve been a collector for over 30 years now. Enjoy every moment of collecting. I lived in Southmoor Park in SE Denver and was a young lady back then. I’m so glad I found you on UA-cam. Brings back a wonderful memory from that day. Take care.
Thank you for the kind words! I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s much different now. We are always looking for people to film collection tours so if you have a small or large doll collection or area or expertise that you want to share with doll collectors at a Virtual Doll Convention on UA-cam, please e-mail us at info@virtualdollconvention.com 🎉
Idc some fakes are cute!!
For sure!
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