My only issue with the IMA shitagi is that it's just a white kendogi instead of the lighter fabric you would normally wear underneath (at least in the case of mine). I have a modern shitagi and it is much, much lighter and softer than what IMA provided for my hitatare.
Very fair points. According to my research and experience, to give IMA credit, one could wear thicker material for an undergarment depending on the weather or context. Although I agree that lighter material was also used to create undergarments especially for the potentially humid weather and heat in Japan. I also have a very light shitagi made of linen, and it is very nice 😊👍
@@NathanaelTheAussie Out of curiosity, what sources do you use to research period clothing? I have many resources on arms and armor, but less on daily wear.
SuperiorAutocraft To get started, I highly recommend the following: The "Folkwear" book series is great and offers a great variety of period patterns and construction in clothes. One of these books can be found here: www.amazon.com/Japanese-Clothing-Folkwear-Pattern-112/dp/B000TFJCYG A folding screen completed just after the end of the 16th century by artist, Iwasa Matabei. This man actually lived during the late 16th century as well. This item is one of many from the Tokyo National Museum's e-museum www.emuseum.jp/detail/100318/001/045?word=&d_lang=en&s_lang=en&class=1&title=&c_e=®ion=&era=&cptype=&owner=&pos=33&num=3&mode=detail¢ury= Also the following links can be enlightening: study.com/academy/lesson/japanese-textiles-history-artists.html morikami.org/museum/current-exhibitions/ web-japan.org/museum/textile/about_te.html Also, in case you are wondering how the Japanese may have had access to cotton if not from the Europeans, the "The Oxford Handbook of the History of Consumption" by Frank Trentmann specifically mentions the Chinese had a fully burgeoning cotton industry by the 12th century. We also know the Japanese has been trading with the Chinese at least a few hundred years before that. Hope this helps 🙂
Perhaps the reason for this is because it seems to be yoroi shitagi rather than hitatatre shitagi? I have never ordered anything form them so I cannot say from first hand. But, their shitagi seems to be more like yoroi shitagi which would have been an option to be worn under their armor by warriors that were not wealthy enough for the much more fancy and expensive yoroi hitatatre ensemble. So it seems possible that since their shitagi might be based on this lower grade under armor clothing, it is not as thin as true hitatare shitagi would be? Thoughts? As I said, this is based on my knowledge of Japanese history, culture, and warfare, and what is shown on Iron Mountain Armory's sire, not first hand knowledge of the company's products.
My only issue with the IMA shitagi is that it's just a white kendogi instead of the lighter fabric you would normally wear underneath (at least in the case of mine). I have a modern shitagi and it is much, much lighter and softer than what IMA provided for my hitatare.
Very fair points. According to my research and experience, to give IMA credit, one could wear thicker material for an undergarment depending on the weather or context. Although I agree that lighter material was also used to create undergarments especially for the potentially humid weather and heat in Japan.
I also have a very light shitagi made of linen, and it is very nice 😊👍
@@NathanaelTheAussie Out of curiosity, what sources do you use to research period clothing? I have many resources on arms and armor, but less on daily wear.
SuperiorAutocraft
To get started, I highly recommend the following:
The "Folkwear" book series is great and offers a great variety of period patterns and construction in clothes. One of these books can be found here: www.amazon.com/Japanese-Clothing-Folkwear-Pattern-112/dp/B000TFJCYG
A folding screen completed just after the end of the 16th century by artist, Iwasa Matabei. This man actually lived during the late 16th century as well. This item is one of many from the Tokyo National Museum's e-museum
www.emuseum.jp/detail/100318/001/045?word=&d_lang=en&s_lang=en&class=1&title=&c_e=®ion=&era=&cptype=&owner=&pos=33&num=3&mode=detail¢ury=
Also the following links can be enlightening:
study.com/academy/lesson/japanese-textiles-history-artists.html
morikami.org/museum/current-exhibitions/
web-japan.org/museum/textile/about_te.html
Also, in case you are wondering how the Japanese may have had access to cotton if not from the Europeans, the "The Oxford Handbook of the History of Consumption" by Frank Trentmann specifically mentions the Chinese had a fully burgeoning cotton industry by the 12th century. We also know the Japanese has been trading with the Chinese at least a few hundred years before that.
Hope this helps 🙂
Perhaps the reason for this is because it seems to be yoroi shitagi rather than hitatatre shitagi? I have never ordered anything form them so I cannot say from first hand. But, their shitagi seems to be more like yoroi shitagi which would have been an option to be worn under their armor by warriors that were not wealthy enough for the much more fancy and expensive yoroi hitatatre ensemble. So it seems possible that since their shitagi might be based on this lower grade under armor clothing, it is not as thin as true hitatare shitagi would be? Thoughts? As I said, this is based on my knowledge of Japanese history, culture, and warfare, and what is shown on Iron Mountain Armory's sire, not first hand knowledge of the company's products.
@@NathanaelTheAussie Fantastic, thank you!