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Yeah, boys, the police here in Russia is like that - useless, unhelpful and most of all harmful in some cases. If they don't like you, you'll be put under suspicion right off the bat and then... I can only wish you luck.
@@carrier2659 the police here are bad, dont get me wrong, but not nearly as bad as russia. American cops are saints compared to Russian cops. Just grab just about everything wrong with American cops, and dial it to 11. Thats russia's police force
Thank you, Jorge, for taking the time and effort to create this video about Colin. I read this had been produced through a friend of Colin's and I tried to thank you as soon as possible, but I am so un-tech that I don't think it was posted. As Colin's mother, I am always touched by the continued love and support by those we don't know personally. It gives me great hope that we can make the world a more equitable and humanitarian place for all of us to live out our lives, because we all want the same simple things. It is not ok for the Russian government to simply not reply and in doing so not be culpable for their guilt. I can only hope that the US government will insist that corrupt governments air their dirty laundry, as light can disinfect. The US has the ability to punish these governments without harming the good citizens that are there by birth. Our two independent forensic reports indicate that Colin's death was a homicide by asphyxia. He was also beaten, bound and had not been deceased long before he was found. Bad police are bad police and they need to be weeded out everywhere, along with the corrupt government that shields them from punishments ."“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” Edmund Burke. Colin was such a good and kind man and yes, it is a Brotherhood of Steel tag on his necklace 😊. Many thanks, again, Dana Madsen Calcutt
Wow I'm really sorry for ur lost and this whole situation is highly suspicious and even Stevie Wonder can see the Russian government/ police were definitely involved! God bless u and your family
As an Argentine, I know what's like to deal with the injustice of a corrupt police. Cases like Collin's happen all the time here and I even got detained once for messing with a cop's relative. If it wasn't that I have some heavy weight relatives, most likely they would have killed me and cover it up like a suicide, like that police station did with so many others. Russian Police is a hundred times worse than our, because Russians have violence and alcohol ingrained in their culture and here not so much. Most definitely there was foul play by the criminal cops, and rest assured God will give them what they deserve. May God rest Collin's soul. God bless you.
@@Zyborggian They just have a name and profile pic that stands out, and comment on every video. Im sure a lot of us watch the same videos but we don't comment on every one.
I love that it’s like “the unique necklace missing from the murdered boy found it’s way in police custody” is not a dead fucking give away that the police killed him
@@НиколайКазанский-м7я But then why wouldn't it haven't been there when they FIRST found the body?? And then collect it when it would be noted that he was wearing it? There wasn't a necklace to collect for evidence when they found him dead, because they already stole it when they killed him. They just gave it back because they couldn't get any money for it. On top of the fact that they tried to cover up his defensive wounds after autopsy...I'm sorry, I may be incredibly gullible about a lot of things, but I'm gonna go ahead and say the police killed him with this one.
Actually the necklace can be easily explained. it's simple, he wasn't wearing the necklace when found, but police may had find it lying around since they searched the area, thus, later returning it to his relatives with the rest of his belongings. i wish people would try to actually find a plausible explanation instead of making up a conspiracy lol
@@Roadent1241 Hard to explain for me, but i will try. People live in certain "realities". Realities have unwritten rules, so to speak, they formed and refined by years and years of cultural background and situational environment. All of this forms a logic and behavior patterns, specific to this reality. This cannot be explained but expirienced and felt. When a person move from one reality to another everybody can see it. You just look at this person, at the actions of this person and feel that something is off, this person is alien to this place, not neseserily geografically but alien to this reality.
Colin was a dear friend to me while we both studied abroad in Irkutsk the year prior. He was a wonderful and wholly unique person. I also knew and dearly loved some of the friends who were with him when he disappeared and am so sad that they had to deal with the depravity of the police coverup and accusations. Colin was so loved and I wish I could talk to him again.
Yeah I feel like it was most definitely the authorities, the way they angrily tried to blame other people quickly with the most outrageous/unrealistic accusations is a dead giveaway but I also feel like it might’ve been an accident, maybe they tried scaring him to stop doing what he did but went a little too far
16:40 Seeing that he had a Brotherhood of Steel tag on his necklace honestly made me a little bit sadder. Watching these videos, I tend to separate myself from the victim but seeing that makes me feel more connected. He was just a guy who liked Fallout and hiking :( He didn't deserve this just like none of us would.
Same, I am also a fan of fallout and seeing that tag on his necklace and the pendant which looked similar to a necklace in Neverending Story....it hits that these are real people and these are real tragedies that happen to them
Not saying it's right, but to be gay, a Greenpeace activist and American in Siberia is like being a female streaker in Saudia Arabia. Sooner or later you're going to run into "problems".
Jorge: It's kinda difficult to believe the authorities would've killed Colin The entire comment section: The cops totally killed him, no doubt about it
He's a big youtuber, he's not allowed to make strong statements, he's always supposed to be umm-ing and err-ing about everything. He doesn't even think that the creator of CR6 faked his own death, lest someone make fun of him for being a 'conspiracy theorist'.
@@edgaranalhoe7678 as much as the police is despicable.... they only become that way because of the society that made them. Eastern Europe as a whole have an irrational hatred of gays, some would even admit to your face they would harm a homosexual because their existence bothers them and "they don't know why". People as a whole are disturbing
Kind of seems like if a group killed him, one may have taken the necklace as a sick souvenir and the other(s) found out and forced them to return it so they wouldn't get caught.
@@immkai Yeah no, that is not plausible.Think about it, if a friend did that and the police wanted a scapegoat, they'd use the necklace as evidence to throw them in jail and solve the case
@@CyberWarezz05 not necessarily, that opens the door to more publicity, more things going wrong and just more work on their part instead of just letting it die down and allowing people to forget. You get a scapegoat they'll forever be proclaiming their innocence and bringing light to the case. Just a thought, we'll likely (and sadly) never know.
There are several theories that comes to mind. Risk factors I see are: 1: He was a foreigner in a notoriously xenophobic country. 2: He was a foreigner engaged in political activism in a country known to crack down on political activism. 3: Even if he wasn't gay, someone might have thought he were and attacked him for it. 4: He might just have pissed off some local yokel.
I love how much Jorge's work has changed. Dont get me wrong, I love when it used to be his top 10 lists and whatnot but it's good to see that his work is changing a lot, and i absolutely love it.
I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on UA-cam. I already make a lot of money on UA-cam. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, kat
the fact that he had on heavy layers of makeup and clothing when his body was brought in for the autopsy is so strange to me. i really hope his family gets some sort of closure.
It's almost like they were planning to bury him in Russia. Either just stage a service for the friends, or do it quickly, but couldn't because they got the request in time. So they left all the laying-in-state stuff on and just packed him on a plane home
In Russia morgues, not burial homes usually handle body pre-burial preparation. He was probably prepared for funeral locally in order to bury him faster in US.
@@Corvus7 that makes sense, but in the video it was stated that the bruising covered by the makeup wasn’t noted when they found the body. Insinuating that it had been done before arriving at a morgue
He's American, Gay, and an Environmentalist. He's essentially the embodiment of who the Russian authorities hate dealing with, making it a recipe for their complicity of his tragedy.
@@that1person695 Some locals in the town that Colin last stayed in also "insisted" that he was gay. Though it's not 100% confirmed, the point is: his sexuality should never matter in the first place. Labeling him as Gay is another scapegoat so they could not pursue this case, and cover-up the real reason of his death.
As the Russian mafia to this day still exists, and until 2017 no extremely major arrests occurred (other then one, however they got released on bail) I think its highly likely for some reason or another he possibly got targeted by a Mafioso.
my friend went to russia not long after the USSR fell, and took a domestic flight somewhere. The flight was rolling and lurching everywhere, the roughest landing. The stewardesses were stone faced mad glaring at the cockpit. Plane came to a screeching halt throwing everyone forward pinned by the seatbelts. And the cockpit door immediately thrown open, and the captain stumbles out drink in hand rip roaring drunk, and stumbles out the plane first. He tells this story recently to a Russian friend, who nonchalantly says well in that time pilots were expected to drink before the flight, they'd get in trouble if they had more than a bottle of vodka though! Turns out all the pilots were alcoholics and would drink before flying to stop the DT tremors 🥴✈️👍
there is a huge drinking problem in Russia, so people often go out in the forest or a mountain or to fish just to get drunk people who don't drink are considered very weird
@@bigbird7748 Yeah but let's be real, they were mad they didnt possess any alcohol because they wanted to invent a story they killed him when drunk. This isnt as innocent as what you're suggesting. As demonstrated clearly by the "they wanted to fornicate on the corpse" story that they had randomly made up. This displays very corrupt intentions. You follow the evidence to make a story, you dont randomly make up a story & force a confession without any evidence whatsoever. I could've done better police work than them. These were very hostile police with very hostile intentions. This is way beyond merely being "unprofessional".
The cops did it. There's no damn way they didn't. They had his necklace when they shouldn't have. It's like robbing a house and the police find the stolen jewelry on you
anyone think the symbol on the neckladce might have significance as to y the police took it? I read on a comment above someone referred to it as "The brotherhood of the (something, can't remember or find the comment)". Did there exist anamosity between this brotherhood and the Russian industrialists, authorities, or the locals quite possibly?
This isn't even an exclusively Russian thing either, my mom's baby brother & hundreds of other local men in Cabo San Lucas were just picked off the streets & neighborhoods by the local armed forces/police (they're the same thing in mexico) & have never been found. At least, the ones that WERE found were found by their relatives thru local efforts, so at least those families got closure. Also, apparently he had just bought a new motorcycle, and instead of keeping it after he disappeared his son sold it to some guy, and less than a week later that same guy was found dead in the middle of a field. So, if my cousin hadn't sold that motorcycle, he probably would have been next. Edit: it's been at least 4 years since my uncle disappeared, my grandma still refuses to believe he's gone for good. One of his neighbors had been the one to see the armed men take him away in a van & confirmed it was the same armed men you see at the border/toll roads all over the country. Thousands of relatives, mostly mothers & sisters, put everything they can into recovering their lost brothers, fathers, sons, but the government refuses to help, more than likely because they are the ones who cause the disappearances.
@@kuraraShotai9 It even happens in the US, you get so many small town stories of corrupt cops and in big cities, well, you've got police who kill people in broad daylight and nothing even happens because of police unions.
I have an explanation for the state of the body: Colin was undressed either before he died or soon after, so his body and clothes could be washed to get rid of evidence. Then they re-dressed him which was why his jewelry and socks were missing (small items that are easy to lose) and his shoes were untied and clothes were torn (it’s difficult to dress someone who’s unconscious or dead, and rigor mortis might have set in). Then he would have been dumped in the woods (explaining the pose he was found in- If two people lifted a body by the shoulders and legs and tossed it to the ground it would land in a similar position.) he was definitely killed somewhere else and his body dumped at the place it was eventually found.
@@annabellelee4535 yeah but that's not something that happens in paradoxical undressing. He was most likely murdered by police or they were helping someone cover it up.
It's weird that before the body was found, the police accused the friends of killing him and sexually assaulting the body. It's especially "coincidental" that Colin was found with his trousers down
A lot of phobes are undercover. I wouldn't doubt they had their way with him, like that nest of anti-g/ay German politicians who were caught at a gay orgy. You can't make this stuff up!
I read in the comments that locals suspected him of being gay, but it wasn't 100% confirmed. The Russian police definitely bound and tortured him. They probably got it out of him to admit that he was or something, which could explain the blatant homophobic accusations and framing of the story on their part.
Even if the russian police are not guilty, they aren’treally helping themselves look better. The constant aggression towards the group, the fact that they retrieved a necklace that wasn’t on him when he was discovered, and the urgency to try to find anything to put the blame on his friends is just adding fuel to the fire. Something happened, and while we don’t know by who, it was big enough that athorities were despirate to try to cover it up. But sometimes, despiration can lead to their own demise.
Hi, Russian native here. It is completely NOT hard to believe that the Russian authorities killed someone. They would not hesitate a second before torturing people to make them confess things they didn't do or just for their own fun.
it had to be the police, too many clues.. the attempted blame-shifting to alcohol, the hostility towards investigators, and too seal the deal - that unique necklace
I immediately thought of my mom when it was mentioned he worked for Greenpeace. She was once chased through the whole of Belgium by unmarked cars when working for Greenpeace on a mission that had to do with the pollution of a certain oil company. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but hearing her story it wouldn't surprise me if he was killed as an example.
yeah, my friends and family are big environmentalists and a lot of them have been detained, heckled, stalked etc... scary but really changed the way i view the government growing up
Many GP activists have had attempts on their life, I have almost no doubt that the police were involved, and the murder was most likely orchestrated by the industrialists in question.
Как же погано, что на русском ни одной нормальной статьи по этому делу. Впервые слышу об этом убийстве, хотя оно произошло относительно недавно. Спасибо за освещение этого дела
Hey, local siberian here. Really, sadly I don’t think that anyone from Siberia or even Russia will be shocked by that case, why do you think Aleksei Balabanov's movie “cargo 200” exist.. People here are very angry and often have caveman mentality, using different sexuality as curses to random people and hating any good political or non-political movements. When they live in cold, dark and far away country side, they can relax only with alcohol and beating random people on the streets. That’s average lifestyle of people from siberia. I don’t think people in other countries OR EVEN people from city’s like Moscow can understand how hard it is to be a young person with modern knowledge of the internet, surrounded by those caveman and this mentality. That’s why everyone moves from there and leaves those people to be stupid alone and abuse each other like they used to.
That sounds very tough, indeed. Just wanted to say that most Russian people I've met were wonderful like yourself! That's why I hope slowly things will change, thanks to the young people. Take care.
They were probably trying to convince him to stop with the activism, but accidentally convinced a little to hard. I mean why would the police intentionally kill him and also be so unprepared to cover it up?
Police scapegoating everyone else is nothing out of ordinary in Russia, so this is not a evidence of their involvement, but necklaces thing is really suspicious. Did they ever give the explanation of that from their perspective?
No explanation I can find. Definitely a cover up. My guess is they arrested him, he died in custody, and they dumped his body and wiped any record of his interaction with police.
This reminds me a lot of that Icelandic case where someone disappeared or died, so the cops immediately started acting suspicious, did the worst investigation possible, and then basically imprisoned and interrogated the victims friends for like two years or something insane like that till they “confessed”, then they were like yay job well done!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian Authorities had a part in Colin's death, not at all. After all, they nearly killed a friend of mine in the early 2000s. He'd gone over to Russian as an English teacher, and was beaten up by a couple of police officers one night. Yeah, he came home straight away, and warned everyone against going there. So no, I'm not at all surprised that there is a suspicion about the Authorities being involved, not at all.
I’d just like to say that people who commit suicide can definitely seem happy before doing so. I doubt this is what happened with Colin, though. The blunt force trauma could mean someone hit him and left him to die, or he got hurt and subsequently died. And haven’t the russian authorities killed for less? I feel for his mom the most. RIP.
My cousin was in Porta Rico once and she was walking down the beach and she woke up in the Hospital with a bad head wound out of an induced coma. It looked like somone came up and smashed her in the head. It was a coconut. She was smashed off the head by a coconut no joke and it’s actually a common thing. Not saying there is palm trees in Siberia but maybe a branch or rock fell Idk.
Yeah but he still had to be taken away from the cabin. It sounds incredibly unlikely that he would just...wander off in that state, and even if a branch or rock did hit him at the cabin...who would just take an unconscious person away like that if they didn't have bad intentions? It just doesn't make sense
I don't think thats what Jorge was implying; definitely, someone can appear happy before they commit suicide. However, it's usually still seems unusual to outsiders who may know that person well and know the mental turmoil they're going through. By saying he seemed normal, he just means there wasn't any obvious changes in his demeanor(such as being outwardly depressed OR overly/unusually more happy, and of course other signs.)
@@fighterman4812 he could have walked out to pee and somthing hit him in the head like a rock or tree. Why would someone have to had taken him out of the cabin? He could have wondered on his own. Maybe even sleep walking.
Beautiful homage to Colin. Thank you Jorge. I have never heard of this young man before today. His life seemed so full of love and adventure and kindness and appreciation for people and their culture, land and language. What an amazing life he had as both a warrior and a seeker of the new and unchartered..
Why do they hate gays so much? Why do people hate others for something they can't help? Could just know they're not hurting anyone and just not hate them.
@@Roadent1241 I know right? God forbid someone prefer someone with the same gender as them. The whole whining about gay people is honestly petty and pathetic.
There's something wrong with that autopsy report. 17:36 Your bladder empties out within minutes after death, so there's no way Mr Madsen was found with a full bladder. Even if he was beaten, your bladder will empty out from the stress. Nah, Mr Madsen died within minutes of being placed under that tree. Placed in that position.
The bladder sometimes empties at or right after death, especially when it's a high stress situation as with death, the muscles being contracted by stress loosen. However it's not some automatic thing that happens when every person dies. Plenty of people die with urine in their bladder that isn't released at all. If it isn't released by the time rigor sets in, then the muscles harden and contract again, though it may be released when the body passes out of rigor mortis because by then, the muscles don't just relax but cellular breakdown begins to happen. Gravity also plays a part- someone standing, sitting or reclined is more likely to release their bladder at the initial relaxation than someone laying completely flat, though this is also affected by factors like the health of the deceased and the fullness of the bladder.
@@mommy2libras was about to point this exact thing out and you beat me to it, kudos to you! Yes, not everyone urinates or defecates directly after dying. It’s common but it varies massively depending on circumstances
@@ihoardcathair6636 true that it's not 100% occurence but it is quite common and even more in cases of strangulation or asphyxiation. So if the independent authopsy review is to be believed then it's rather likely, that there would be some if not full secretion. On the other hand torture by electricity if done "right" might cause asphyxiation, leave almost no marks and could explain the lastong tension of sphincters.
Strange that his bladder would still be full if he had been beaten to death,, fear and trauma would cause one to release his bladder. The fists closed are also strange. Strangest (to me) of many strange things in this case is that his body would not have gone straight to a pathologist's office for an independent autopsy, -that it was the morticians at the funeral home who found and documented his wounds. I mean, that really stands out. The first thing you would want is to determine the state of the body. That is what's going to show how a person died. But no mention is made of a second autopsy. As for as why he left the cabin in that state, that he went to pee makes the most sense. It seems to have been a one room cabin and no one was else was awakened,, and then just grabbed by people snooping on them. (we can only speculate). It would be good to know the dates and temperatures,, bc that could explain his body being preserved,, if its very cold, it slows decomposition, but nothing I can see explains not having a second, independent autopsy, performed on him. Anyway, sad story. Poor kid. He really seemed like a good person.
It could be: Colin was going to the bathroom, lost his way somehow because this was at 2-5 AM, so it must’ve been dark, and encountered the Russian police, they beat him and end up killing him, and then dump his body elsewhere.
Great video. Love your channel. Also, another clue to the police lying about hypothermia: Victims of hypothermia generally die with their eyes closed on account that their body "falls asleep" before it shuts down. Doctors and scientists say that as the body shuts down from hypothermia, the person dying begins to feel warmth instead of bitter cold. Thus the reason they appear "sleeping" when found. I'm no mortician or death expert, but my understanding is that people who die with their eyes and mouth open are usually victims of a quick unexpected death or a violent, stressful death. I remember watching an interview with a serial killer in jail (name escapes me) who said his favorite part of murdering someone in cold blood was watching the eyes dilate before they died. A mafia hitman named Richard Kuklinski also mentioned the same thing. He said he'd kill men at point blank range and then stand over the body and watch until "the light in their eyes disappeared." Like I say, no expert on post-mortem stuff, but I think his death with eyes and mouth open would indicate something very stressful or quick and unexpected. I feel bad for him and his family. 🙁 Important Lesson: Russian Law Enforcement is sus af.
No, people frequently die with their eyes open as they skip away. Their jaw relaxes after death and thus their mouth is open, especially if they’re lying on their back at the time. (RN of 40+ years, at the bedside of many patients’ passing.)
Also open eyes and mouth, the nose as well are prime targets for insects and scavengers, would show the most signs of decomposition in "8 days lying on the ground in a forest"
Poor Colin. The police are either really lazy so that’s why they were trying to pin it on the friends, or really annoyed that their cover up wasn’t readily accepted. It could be either. The killer(s)… I can’t wrap my head around their motivation since his money was left on his person. Maybe a cocky cop cuffed him and something unfortunate occurred that lead to an accidental death which was then terribly (but apparently it’s good enough to accept?) covered up.
Foreigner - one of the least powerful people in a society (not any specific nationality, I just mean any person in a foreign social hierarchy) vs Police - one of the most grossly overpowered people in a society. The authoritative strength to do what they want, and the connections to cover it up. Coulda been literally anything. Maybe they didnt like the way the he looked at them.
The police killed him because he was a climate activist, and their job is to aid and abet the corporations and governments in their longstanding endeavor of actively destroying the planet so they can make more dollars. All police are hands of the state.
I had a feeling that was the direction the story was headed even before you mentioned Greenpeace. I remember watching Navalny's video of him exposing Putin's palace and he mentions environmentalists being arrested and tortured for protesting against trees being cut down where the palace was being built, without even knowing what was being built at the time.
By around 13:00, I’m getting a really strong feeling that Colin had some kind of run-in with authorities that ended in his death, and as this goes on, that feeling is just getting stronger. He could have stepped out of the cabin to urinate or to check on a noise and gotten diverted by someone who was already around the cabin, intending to cause trouble or looking for something to steal.
The fact that his hands were clenched when they found him . . . Doesn’t that only happen in specific situations? Like being burned or grabbing someone strongly???
Cadaveric spasms happen sometimes, most often in the hands. It's usually a result from excessive use of the hands (or whichever muscles are affected) before death - this often occurs in drowning, or hanging, but also in assaults. So the clenched fists don't allow you to make any assumption about the cause of death. Open eyes, however, are pretty normal. You see them all the time if you work in a hospital. Hope that helps a bit :)
@@nukathecat4319 It's very normal for dead people's eyes to stay open after death. As a nursing student it happens a lot. And it's so fucking hard to close them again after death. You need a tool to force them shut
This seems extremely open and shut- the authorities did it. They got mad he was a member of Greenpeace, killed him and took some of his stuff (the necklace, the body in general) to hide. When the boys came forward, they pitch the idea that they got drunk and had intercourse with the body (a completely random and particular claim to make) When that story obviously made no sense, they set the body up in a random field, with the addition of his pants pulled down to add credence to their molestation narrative. The smoking gun is the necklace, they forgot to put it back on him, and sold themselves out.
I've only ever heard LordanArts cover this case, so I'm amazed to hear it here. Man. This story is traumatizing just to hear. This has stuck with me more than any of the other thousands of hours worth of things like this I've listened to.
i love how quickly the officers began desperately screaming colin was gay, with no concept of how far the world had progressed, and how little it would help their little coverup
@@SpawnIsCrazy It's true. Doesn't have to be 'cops' necessarily, but in this particular example, I knew someone who was horrifically murdered by a closeted cop. Look up the case of "Jesse Valencia"
"It's kinda difficult to believe the authorities would've killed Colin" no i can absolutely believe the authorities would do that. literally any time I hear anything about any government or law enforcement all I can think of is the post that went something along the lines of: "anytime you think 'the government would never do that!', they can and have done that"
Couple of questions: 1. His stomach contents should give a more determinate time of death, why wasn't that discussed? 2. What was the temperature during the times he was gone? Many people think hypothermia is caused by cold temperature but, it doesn't need to be that cold. The head trauma....could have that been caused by him running into a tree. He may have thought some wildlife was chasing him and he ran into a tree in the dark. It could have been his friends. They may have been goofing off (they were up until 0200 and hiking at 0500) an accident happened and he died. They left him there and went to bed. DO we know for sure he was in the cabin that night?
Something that should be addressed is why several experienced hikers arrived at the cabin at 2AM and planned on waking at 5AM to make a challenging hike with only 3 hours of sleep and having hiked until 2AM before that. It makes me suspect that his friends were perhaps in some sort of trouble prior to Colin's disappearance.
Yeah, that is strange. I've hiked out in Central Asia when I was bigger into it, and you wouldn't do a hard one with so little sleep, though they might have been young and up for the challage.
Likely to watch the sun rise. Even in boot camp you'll have hikes, smaller and bigger. With little to no sleep. It is possible and the human mind won't really break down until 48 hours
@@garrettabcdefg4602 No doubt about that. I just wouldn't think they would intentionally push themselves physically and mentally. From the video, it seems the group was geared more towards exploration and enjoying nature, rather than testing their mettle with extreme conditions. Wanting to watch the sunrise does make sense though.
Lol right? When he said that I side eyed my bedroom wall. The second it became clear that this story is about green American in Russia, there was no mystery about his death anymore.
To be fair, 80% of that is just western racist anti-Slavic propaganda but the remaining 20% is spot-on What I em trying to say is that if the Russia authorities don't like your face, they won't bother investigating your death, and will most likely pin the blame on your friends to "teach them a lesson" They won't kill you tho, unless you directly choose to mess with them.
I think the strangest part of the whole thing is the Authority's reaction. It would be one thing if they just ignored the case but yelling and spitting to people asking about it, accusing them of being gay who wanted to just have an orgy, their consistent attempts to accuse them of being drug addicts or alcoholics, their general demeanour to the lack of evidence to their accusations. It's just... It kinda sounds like a cartoon episode where an evil company tries to (poorly) make the good guys look bad, you know what i mean? It just feels like a lot of unnecessary effort for something they could just dismiss.
When the necklace thing came up the thing that immediately came to my mind as plausible was one person taking it as a disgusting souvenir and perhaps the other(s) found out and forced them to "return it" because that would've been a HUGE loose end and would've for sure got them caught. Which again, points to the police.
Yah I had to check if I’d been pronouncing it wrong this whole time. There’s been many times where I’ve read a word many times but never said it out loud - when I do it’s wrong
His position when he was found to me it means that he died face down, arms held, and...sorry...abused not just by one person (at least two to held each arm). Possibly the police did it or knows who did it. Too late to know if he got any messages or calls before leaving the cabin. But also he may be known or spotted beforehand, since he used to go to that place, right?
This is kinda common in my country. I'd think that cops pulled him aside (maybe to arrest him, maybe to show off or get some money) and then one cop got overboard with the use of force and they had to cover up the result. In some places, all you need to get into the police force is wanting to have a gun, so imagine a whole force of your average idiot high school bully.
We have a lot of those in the USA. The types of people who were evil, wretched children grow up to be politicians and police. Now we have an army of IRS thugs with the only prerequisite for the job being "do you want to own and handle a firearm?" And I'm sure those guns will strictly be used for diplomacy.
We really need to police the police now, make sure the bad apples don't get in, I'm sick of this, it's just getting worse even over here now. Apparently the past year alone, where everybody has been indoors, the police just got bored and started hurting people. Apparently they don't have girlfriends either,t hey can't go home and get consensual bed fun, they have to take innocent unconsenting ones and kill them so they don't tell. Or just replace them all with androids, therefore no stupid allo urges to worry about. Robots ent gonna screw anyone, thank heck, unless an Eden Club is built and only they will have the right parts.
@@EvE-zenbymr And if they're not being disruptive? Innocent people have been killed by them. People that communicate via sign language have been killed by them. What bad were they doing not being able to hear and cooperate as wanted?
@@Roadent1241 I should probably have clarified that i am distinctly anti-statist and have a burning hatred for police. My sarcasm did not come through in my text. I'm not gonna blame you for misunderstanding, because there are an-caps in these comments who really do say the darnedest things.
oh my god we studied in the same university in Irkutsk i was so shocked to see a familiar face in my recommendations. a shocking story but also the complete inaction of the russian authorities is so expected, we have to deal with every day living in russiia, so done with this country it makes me sick
I don’t know why but the month of November and your vids coexist together in my head, so glad to see this upload! Hopefully we can get another upload before the end of the month :)
"It's difficult to imagine Russian authorities killed him." No, not at all honestly. There's a reason every Russian I've known in my life has had a huge distrsut of the police.
I love the natural progression jorge's videos have been going in. starting from top ten creepypastas to urban legends to mysterious deaths, not once has it felt like a step back and I love it.
7:19 "So it was concluded that we killed Colin" I mean, that's what a investigator who doesn't give AF would say just to brush the case off quickly. "And then made sexual intercourse on his dead body" HOLD ON, WHAT?
Russia is one of the biggest countries in the developed world where homosexuality is outlawed, heck even telling someone that gay people exist is illegal. So that doesn’t surprise me that the police, which is in the government of Russia, would believe that about people who support “western” ideologies
@@SignatureFox713 The part about insinuating they're gay isn't the issue. (I mean, you're right, it's outlawed in Russia.) But I still think you're missing something major in that final statement.
I admire his friends for seeking the real truth in the face of the initial cover-up, becuase as soon as they did, I could tell the next step in the story would be "...so the cops blamed them, instead."
I know you won’t see this comment But I LOVE your channel You are one of the few UA-camrs that puts genuine effort into their videos I hope you reach 2 mil soon
They blamed the other hikers for having sexual intercourse with the body, while also insinuating that Colin was gay. The Russian assassins weren’t even trying to be subtle.
@@anonymousher0 You won’t tell anyone, though, right?? 😂 Sadly, I live on the west coast and don’t have a basement. 😭 I have to hide the bodies in the crawl space which isn’t as efficient. 🤷♀️ I guess I should give up reading for the sake of society.
From the information given in the video (I've not looked anything else up) I believe he was ambushed either immediately upon exiting the house by a group of law enforcement personnel or perhaps as he was walking to the outhouse. They may have been waiting for the entire group to leave in the morning but Colin was the unlucky first out the door. After this he was taken away, possibly to a van, stripped of clothing and interrogated about information regarding other Greenpeace protesters and/or future protest events. Eventually they grew tired of questioning him and killed him (the KGB and authorities likely have numerous ways of killing without leaving immediately obvious marks), brought his body to the tree where he was discovered and hastily dressed him knowing there were multiple search parties in the area.
I'm from that part of Russia and I personally knew Collin for a year. We used to see each other in the same parties from time to time. He was a nice friendly guy and this story makes me really sad. But I hardly see a possibility of a murder. Crime rate here is very low but chances to get lost in a forest and be frozen to death are high. Nature is really harsh. Sorry for saying that. But in my life I've never heard about killings but I my self got many times in trouble at nature. There are always troubles from bears to horrible cold... Ask me any questions if you have some... Anton
Buryatia has a high crime rate, It is not low. And do you think there is no police corruption there? Buryatia has been under scrutiny for years because of police abusing suspects
@lotus_flower2000 Thank your comment! I agree. But Arshan is not like the rest of Buratia. It's a touristic place. I've been there 30 times at least walking at nights here and there and never felt in real danger (of people). It's only experience of me and my friends though. Police there is not so proficent in covering anything up and kept the secret forever. It's easier for them to arrest someone asap and get an award from the government. They are paid for solved cases, not for accidents or closed cases. Just my opinion, but it might be wrong
I feel really bad for this kid's family, but jeez I could have warned him that doing Greenpeace antics in Siberia can get you tortured and killed by the Siberian petrostate. There's places where doing that kind of thing is a total deathwish (Saudi Arabia is another).
Yep, that was my thought exacly. Don't go to a possibly dangerous place like that and act against the norm, its just asking for trouble. Sometimes its best to just conform and stay quiet to save your hide until its time to leave.
I live in an area where there is a lot of lumber harvesting and I know that environmentalist who mean well and come to our area trying to prevent logging are seen as outsiders who are going to prevent many locals from having a livelihood. If you mess with peoples way of living they can become violent and very upset. I think that Americans who go to foreign countries trying to enact some kind of a political agenda need to be a lot smarter. Still breaks my heart for this mom who lost her baby boy and I feel very bad for her.
It definitely sounds like the authorities have something to do with this. Quickly jumping to blame others with absurd accusations, acting aggressively towards his work, and being reluctant and showing no interest to help really sounds like a dead give away, and being as they’re authorities, it would make it all that more easier to hide.
Nah, it was a big international company having fun "deterring" those damn hippies in the way, police were probably on the payroll hence the sloppy job, say what you will about Russia's agencies but one thing they have is plenty of expertise
@@raksh9 I think it's a case of reading a word and you understand what it means but you've never heard anyone say it. I had the same thing with the word "cache." I thought it would be pronounced "cash-ay" but discovered it was simply pronounced as "cash." Just one of those things, no big deal.
@@TheRoberino2001 In Australia, 'cache' is pronounced 'caysh', like cake with sh instead of ke. And cachet is pronounced 'cash-ay' in Australia. Funny stuff.
It’s worrying to me that no one seems to have mentioned the fact they accused his friends killing him and then “doing it” with the corpse. That is horrific and an extremely crazy assumption to come up with. It’s appalling that anyone would accuse someone of that without a shred of evidence to back it up.
Also, I’m seeing a lot of people say that Collin was homosexual, which I’ve not seen any evidence for. I did watch the video, not just listen. But I might’ve missed it, if there was any reference to it. So correct me if I’m wrong. I think the comments belief of this are coming from the authorities being quick to claim them to be homosexual foreigners having “sleepovers”. From what I’ve seen, they were just hikers. Nothing about what I’ve seen implied homosexuality.
And finally, what else I wanna mention is that people are saying he was attacked by a bear or stag when there’s literally no evidence to suggest that. His body was intact, there were no gashes, stabs, or bite marks which would’ve been seen with an animal attack. The only wounds were bruises to the wrists, tiny cuts and slightly torn clothes and blunt force trauma to the head. Nothing indicating an animal attack. I swear it seems like people didn’t even watch the video. Jorge, explains many pieces of evidence and people seem to have completely disregarded them. (Also not a fan of the people making jokes out of who killed him either. Kind of fucked.)
Russians are weirdly homophobic. His mother said the police kept trying to pressure her into admitting her son was gay and they also accused his friends of being gay because according to them straight men don't come to that area with books and no alcohol or women.
@@plastichouseplant Which is like, wtf? Who would look at some guys who like books and aren’t alcoholics and think. Oh yeah, gays. (Side note, as if gays don’t like to drink either?)
Lol someone said a stag attacked him? That's dumb af. I mean a bear is too considering that'd be obvious but I can't imagine someone thinking "oh yeah he got murked by a deer" 🤣
I am loving these shorter videos lately, but I’m also missing the older, longer style of video. Almost in a mixed feeling sort of way where they are both so amazing that it’s hard to choose between.
I think the fact his socks were missing is important. The fact that it hurts when he walks without them because of his scars leads me to believe that he intended to be out for such a short time(such as using the bathroom) that it wouldn't hurt, or that he went out for a longer time and something happened to his feet that required him to take off his socks. The fact his hands cut and clothing was torn also leads me to believe that he was dragged or maybe fell from somewhere. It looks like in the diagram that he fell out of the tree, especially if his hands were cut, since climbing can do that to your hands. The way his body was positioned doesn't make sense though in the case of the falling from somewhere. His position seems like he was stretched out from someone moving him, but maybe he did it himself, since some people lay in that position when tired. I can't think of much else with this but I think these points are important to think about.
1. its pretty much confirmed that this wasnt an accident and he was killed from blunt force trauma 2. the tree in the model shown int he video is more of a focal point to enter and end the video. Having something to focus on to end and begin a story with is very common
The necklace is a key detail, though. He was wearing it when he left the cabin. He wasn't wearing it when his body was found. Yet the police gave it back to his mother???
@@ncisfan1002 yeah that is suspicious, the only reason I can think of was that it was left in the cabin and found by the police later in an investigation of the cabin
Hey guys. As many of you have noticed, I have been uploading more frequently as of late. Let me know if you like these shorter, more frequent videos, or the longer, monthly deep dives. Curious to see what people think.
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Although I love to see the frequent uploads, I do also really love the deep dives and look forward to those more than the shorter videos :)
I enjoy both equally!
i really like the monthly deep dives but also these frequent videos, i honestly dont know which one is better lol
Either is great make videos on what interests you and we are bound to be entertained
Both way is fine jorge! Just don't get stressed out! Stay healthy 👍🏽
Yeah, boys, the police here in Russia is like that - useless, unhelpful and most of all harmful in some cases. If they don't like you, you'll be put under suspicion right off the bat and then... I can only wish you luck.
Police here in the US are the exact same. Sucks, as officers of the law should set an example.
@@carrier2659 There are bad cops here sure but not all officers are bad.
@@carrier2659 the police here are bad, dont get me wrong, but not nearly as bad as russia. American cops are saints compared to Russian cops. Just grab just about everything wrong with American cops, and dial it to 11. Thats russia's police force
Shut up
@@JustSomeRandomBurger Thats why your shoes raggedy
Thank you, Jorge, for taking the time and effort to create this video about Colin. I read this had been produced through a friend of Colin's and I tried to thank you as soon as possible, but I am so un-tech that I don't think it was posted. As Colin's mother, I am always touched by the continued love and support by those we don't know personally. It gives me great hope that we can make the world a more equitable and humanitarian place for all of us to live out our lives, because we all want the same simple things. It is not ok for the Russian government to simply not reply and in doing so not be culpable for their guilt. I can only hope that the US government will insist that corrupt governments air their dirty laundry, as light can disinfect. The US has the ability to punish these governments without harming the good citizens that are there by birth. Our two independent forensic reports indicate that Colin's death was a homicide by asphyxia. He was also beaten, bound and had not been deceased long before he was found. Bad police are bad police and they need to be weeded out everywhere, along with the corrupt government that shields them from punishments ."“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” Edmund Burke. Colin was such a good and kind man and yes, it is a Brotherhood of Steel tag on his necklace 😊. Many thanks, again, Dana Madsen Calcutt
Wow I'm really sorry for ur lost and this whole situation is highly suspicious and even Stevie Wonder can see the Russian government/ police were definitely involved! God bless u and your family
How is this not top or pinned comment
Very sorry for your (& our) loss Dana
As an Argentine, I know what's like to deal with the injustice of a corrupt police. Cases like Collin's happen all the time here and I even got detained once for messing with a cop's relative. If it wasn't that I have some heavy weight relatives, most likely they would have killed me and cover it up like a suicide, like that police station did with so many others.
Russian Police is a hundred times worse than our, because Russians have violence and alcohol ingrained in their culture and here not so much.
Most definitely there was foul play by the criminal cops, and rest assured God will give them what they deserve.
May God rest Collin's soul. God bless you.
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The whole situation sounds way too suspicious for it to not have the police be involved in the death
wow no comment on a dude without a mustache the disrespect ☠️
@@GambinoTheGoat I'm even more surprised that normally you'd expect 3.4k likes or more🤔
Do you watch all the Nexpo/Muta friend group's videos?
@@Zyborggian They just have a name and profile pic that stands out, and comment on every video. Im sure a lot of us watch the same videos but we don't comment on every one.
And not unlikely considering it happened in Russia (especially in a rural area)
I love that it’s like “the unique necklace missing from the murdered boy found it’s way in police custody” is not a dead fucking give away that the police killed him
That's the police for you
The police may have initially thought the necklace was a tool of crime. Any tool of crime has to be taken into police custody.
@@НиколайКазанский-м7я But then why wouldn't it haven't been there when they FIRST found the body?? And then collect it when it would be noted that he was wearing it? There wasn't a necklace to collect for evidence when they found him dead, because they already stole it when they killed him. They just gave it back because they couldn't get any money for it. On top of the fact that they tried to cover up his defensive wounds after autopsy...I'm sorry, I may be incredibly gullible about a lot of things, but I'm gonna go ahead and say the police killed him with this one.
Actually the necklace can be easily explained. it's simple, he wasn't wearing the necklace when found, but police may had find it lying around since they searched the area, thus, later returning it to his relatives with the rest of his belongings. i wish people would try to actually find a plausible explanation instead of making up a conspiracy lol
@@nadeshikorealnofake2237 Can you read the reponse the person before you sent?
Police "So you have no alcohol, but you brought books?"
Friends: "Yeah."
Police: "You monsters. Why did you kill and rape your friend?"
yeah wtf kind of backward thinking is this?
@@dayvancubensis You have to live in Russia for some time to understand this logic.
@@Autarke I could see some people in really rural USA having the same thought process too
Autarke How would living there help? What logic is it?
@@Roadent1241 Hard to explain for me, but i will try. People live in certain "realities". Realities have unwritten rules, so to speak, they formed and refined by years and years of cultural background and situational environment. All of this forms a logic and behavior patterns, specific to this reality. This cannot be explained but expirienced and felt. When a person move from one reality to another everybody can see it. You just look at this person, at the actions of this person and feel that something is off, this person is alien to this place, not neseserily geografically but alien to this reality.
Colin was a dear friend to me while we both studied abroad in Irkutsk the year prior. He was a wonderful and wholly unique person. I also knew and dearly loved some of the friends who were with him when he disappeared and am so sad that they had to deal with the depravity of the police coverup and accusations. Colin was so loved and I wish I could talk to him again.
Did he act gay?
Do you wake up choosing to be a disrespectful stain or does it come naturally?@@NEELZE99
I am so sorry for your loss.
Put on some clothes.
@@uverpro3598you’re a bad person
The "his friends were gay murderous drunks, on a hiking trip" is such an obvious quack of a coverup. An absurd conclusion to reach
And an outlandish one given all the very clear evidence
@@McCoy-00 did you mean to plug your music channel just now?
@@nukiradio yes, why? Does it piss you off?
@@McCoy-00 lmao, but why
@@Simon-xi7lb I’ll remove it if that helps
Yeah I feel like it was most definitely the authorities, the way they angrily tried to blame other people quickly with the most outrageous/unrealistic accusations is a dead giveaway but I also feel like it might’ve been an accident, maybe they tried scaring him to stop doing what he did but went a little too far
I mean he had scars around his wrists indicating he was tied up and beaten. I don't think it was an accident by the authorities
Would the authorities really act that way though? It seems super obvious and suspicious to respond that way and harass his friends.
That's not an accident then. If they killed him it's murder, not just an oopsie, we tried to scare him
@@stevielawler1028 yeah that’s true it couldn’t have been an accident
@@alecwerme739 yeah the more I read my comment the more dumb it sounds, of course they did it on purpose but are still trying to cover it up
16:40 Seeing that he had a Brotherhood of Steel tag on his necklace honestly made me a little bit sadder. Watching these videos, I tend to separate myself from the victim but seeing that makes me feel more connected. He was just a guy who liked Fallout and hiking :( He didn't deserve this just like none of us would.
Same, I am also a fan of fallout and seeing that tag on his necklace and the pendant which looked similar to a necklace in Neverending Story....it hits that these are real people and these are real tragedies that happen to them
Not saying it's right, but to be gay, a Greenpeace activist and American in Siberia is like being a female streaker in Saudia Arabia. Sooner or later you're going to run into "problems".
For real.
Knowing he was gay destroyed all of this tho
@@NEELZE99 Tf
Jorge: It's kinda difficult to believe the authorities would've killed Colin
The entire comment section: The cops totally killed him, no doubt about it
Jorge is either a boot licker or someone that is trying not to anger boot lickers
@@gabbo7101 or he has no idea how rotten police is in the eastern europe
He's a big youtuber, he's not allowed to make strong statements, he's always supposed to be umm-ing and err-ing about everything. He doesn't even think that the creator of CR6 faked his own death, lest someone make fun of him for being a 'conspiracy theorist'.
Could have been loggers or hired thugs, with the police covering for local interests
@@edgaranalhoe7678 as much as the police is despicable.... they only become that way because of the society that made them. Eastern Europe as a whole have an irrational hatred of gays, some would even admit to your face they would harm a homosexual because their existence bothers them and "they don't know why". People as a whole are disturbing
The necklace disappearing than reappearing was crazy, the authorities really slipped up with that one.
Kind of seems like if a group killed him, one may have taken the necklace as a sick souvenir and the other(s) found out and forced them to return it so they wouldn't get caught.
@@immkai Yeah no, that is not plausible.Think about it, if a friend did that and the police wanted a scapegoat, they'd use the necklace as evidence to throw them in jail and solve the case
@@CyberWarezz05 not necessarily, that opens the door to more publicity, more things going wrong and just more work on their part instead of just letting it die down and allowing people to forget. You get a scapegoat they'll forever be proclaiming their innocence and bringing light to the case.
Just a thought, we'll likely (and sadly) never know.
Not necessarily, it could have been somewhere else on his body, in his pocket or left back at the cabin.
@@PointNemo9 but it wasn't in the report
There are several theories that comes to mind. Risk factors I see are:
1: He was a foreigner in a notoriously xenophobic country.
2: He was a foreigner engaged in political activism in a country known to crack down on political activism.
3: Even if he wasn't gay, someone might have thought he were and attacked him for it.
4: He might just have pissed off some local yokel.
So what about a theory on the necklace ...?
Russians don’t want gay environmentalists in their country. Sounds pretty based to me.
His mother said that when the officers asked her whether or not he was gay, & she said “no” they looked horrified….so take that for what it’s worth.
I love how much Jorge's work has changed. Dont get me wrong, I love when it used to be his top 10 lists and whatnot but it's good to see that his work is changing a lot, and i absolutely love it.
I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on UA-cam. I already make a lot of money on UA-cam. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, kat
@@AxxLAfriku Do you have nothing better to do?
Agreed
Me too!! That documentary on The Finders Cult was the best!
He’s been like this for a while now
the fact that he had on heavy layers of makeup and clothing when his body was brought in for the autopsy is so strange to me. i really hope his family gets some sort of closure.
Sadly, they probably never will.
It's almost like they were planning to bury him in Russia. Either just stage a service for the friends, or do it quickly, but couldn't because they got the request in time. So they left all the laying-in-state stuff on and just packed him on a plane home
In Russia morgues, not burial homes usually handle body pre-burial preparation. He was probably prepared for funeral locally in order to bury him faster in US.
@@Corvus7 that makes sense, but in the video it was stated that the bruising covered by the makeup wasn’t noted when they found the body. Insinuating that it had been done before arriving at a morgue
He's American, Gay, and an Environmentalist.
He's essentially the embodiment of who the Russian authorities hate dealing with, making it a recipe for their complicity of his tragedy.
And easily covering it up
Was he really openly gay? Was that confirmed? Because I don't think it said that in the video, only that the police accused him of being gay.
@@that1person695 Some locals in the town that Colin last stayed in also "insisted" that he was gay. Though it's not 100% confirmed, the point is: his sexuality should never matter in the first place. Labeling him as Gay is another scapegoat so they could not pursue this case, and cover-up the real reason of his death.
@@alphapegasus9761 You RWer Wignats simping over Russia is laughable.
@@alphapegasus9761 what 😭💀
In my opinion, it was most unlikely a random murderer but far more likely a police coverup.
As the Russian mafia to this day still exists, and until 2017 no extremely major arrests occurred (other then one, however they got released on bail) I think its highly likely for some reason or another he possibly got targeted by a Mafioso.
a cop raped his feet and then beat him to death and his buddies covered for him
I wonder if it could have been someone's buddy, or one officer acting alone, and then the rest covering for him
@@theredactedfailure6812 Why would the Russian mafia be involved? What gain would they have from this?
Nope gay orgy all the way😁
This is a tragedy but I find it fitting and hilarious that the Russian police found the fact the hikers hadn't brought any alcohol "suspicious." :D
my friend went to russia not long after the USSR fell, and took a domestic flight somewhere. The flight was rolling and lurching everywhere, the roughest landing.
The stewardesses were stone faced mad glaring at the cockpit. Plane came to a screeching halt throwing everyone forward pinned by the seatbelts. And the cockpit door immediately thrown open, and the captain stumbles out drink in hand rip roaring drunk, and stumbles out the plane first.
He tells this story recently to a Russian friend, who nonchalantly says well in that time pilots were expected to drink before the flight, they'd get in trouble if they had more than a bottle of vodka though! Turns out all the pilots were alcoholics and would drink before flying to stop the DT tremors 🥴✈️👍
there is a huge drinking problem in Russia, so people often go out in the forest or a mountain or to fish just to get drunk
people who don't drink are considered very weird
@@bigbird7748 I mean it is very cold they are trading thier liver for thier skin I guess
@@sadsworth4605 Alcohol don't actually make you warmer though. It just makes you feel warmer, but in reality it does the opposite.
@@bigbird7748 Yeah but let's be real, they were mad they didnt possess any alcohol because they wanted to invent a story they killed him when drunk. This isnt as innocent as what you're suggesting. As demonstrated clearly by the "they wanted to fornicate on the corpse" story that they had randomly made up. This displays very corrupt intentions. You follow the evidence to make a story, you dont randomly make up a story & force a confession without any evidence whatsoever. I could've done better police work than them. These were very hostile police with very hostile intentions. This is way beyond merely being "unprofessional".
"That weed really got on top of me. Think I'll go die alone in the snow." Said no person ever.
this is funny but i dont think im supposed to laugh
Yeah us weed users can’t go outside because of our inability to sense temperature
The cops did it. There's no damn way they didn't. They had his necklace when they shouldn't have. It's like robbing a house and the police find the stolen jewelry on you
anyone think the symbol on the neckladce might have significance as to y the police took it? I read on a comment above someone referred to it as
"The brotherhood of the (something, can't remember or find the comment)". Did there exist anamosity between this brotherhood and the Russian industrialists, authorities, or the locals quite possibly?
@@NarKoTiK69 The Brotherhood of Steel is a fictional organization from the Fallout series of videogames by Obsidian Entertainment and Bethesda.
The cops probably thought it was worth something, and when they couldn't pawn it off for cash they figured they would just return it.
@@TravelingKen This. It was probably a lot more mundane then people are making it out to be.
Idk might have found it nearby
16:04 "In some ways. it's kind of difficult to believe the Russian authorities would have killed Collin Madsen."
Really? I believed that right away.
This isn't even an exclusively Russian thing either, my mom's baby brother & hundreds of other local men in Cabo San Lucas were just picked off the streets & neighborhoods by the local armed forces/police (they're the same thing in mexico) & have never been found. At least, the ones that WERE found were found by their relatives thru local efforts, so at least those families got closure. Also, apparently he had just bought a new motorcycle, and instead of keeping it after he disappeared his son sold it to some guy, and less than a week later that same guy was found dead in the middle of a field. So, if my cousin hadn't sold that motorcycle, he probably would have been next.
Edit: it's been at least 4 years since my uncle disappeared, my grandma still refuses to believe he's gone for good. One of his neighbors had been the one to see the armed men take him away in a van & confirmed it was the same armed men you see at the border/toll roads all over the country. Thousands of relatives, mostly mothers & sisters, put everything they can into recovering their lost brothers, fathers, sons, but the government refuses to help, more than likely because they are the ones who cause the disappearances.
@@kuraraShotai9 It even happens in the US, you get so many small town stories of corrupt cops and in big cities, well, you've got police who kill people in broad daylight and nothing even happens because of police unions.
Yeah, this is honestly the most believable, likely theory.
@@liyre4189 That's the difference between US police and Russian police.
US police are very very open about killing people
Either Jorge is one of those people that has way too much faith in the police, or he simply is trying to avoid angering said boot lickers
I have an explanation for the state of the body: Colin was undressed either before he died or soon after, so his body and clothes could be washed to get rid of evidence. Then they re-dressed him which was why his jewelry and socks were missing (small items that are easy to lose) and his shoes were untied and clothes were torn (it’s difficult to dress someone who’s unconscious or dead, and rigor mortis might have set in). Then he would have been dumped in the woods (explaining the pose he was found in- If two people lifted a body by the shoulders and legs and tossed it to the ground it would land in a similar position.) he was definitely killed somewhere else and his body dumped at the place it was eventually found.
or, more likely, it was paradoxical undressing.
@@annabellelee4535more likely? So he took his boots off then his socks then put his boots back on?
@@jetmcgee4218 Yes. Why is that strange to you in a case of paradoxical undressing? People act strangely when their brain is scrambled.
@@annabellelee4535 yeah but that's not something that happens in paradoxical undressing. He was most likely murdered by police or they were helping someone cover it up.
@@jetmcgee4218 Don't be ridiculous. You might want to educate yourself on paradoxical undressing because yes, that does happen.
It's weird that before the body was found, the police accused the friends of killing him and sexually assaulting the body. It's especially "coincidental" that Colin was found with his trousers down
If it's true that the cops murdered him, they probably defiled the body too.
At the very beginning, as soon as the cops said that, I knew it was them. That was a dead give away.
A lot of phobes are undercover. I wouldn't doubt they had their way with him, like that nest of anti-g/ay German politicians who were caught at a gay orgy. You can't make this stuff up!
It sounds like a missing 411 story, anybody ever heard of those?
I read in the comments that locals suspected him of being gay, but it wasn't 100% confirmed. The Russian police definitely bound and tortured him. They probably got it out of him to admit that he was or something, which could explain the blatant homophobic accusations and framing of the story on their part.
Even if the russian police are not guilty, they aren’treally helping themselves look better. The constant aggression towards the group, the fact that they retrieved a necklace that wasn’t on him when he was discovered, and the urgency to try to find anything to put the blame on his friends is just adding fuel to the fire. Something happened, and while we don’t know by who, it was big enough that athorities were despirate to try to cover it up.
But sometimes, despiration can lead to their own demise.
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to blame. It’s all very strange
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Hi, Russian native here. It is completely NOT hard to believe that the Russian authorities killed someone. They would not hesitate a second before torturing people to make them confess things they didn't do or just for their own fun.
It’s always a good night when Jorge posts
I'm gonna hold myself from watching this one until I'm nice and comfy in my bed. XD
Nexpo and Jorge posting 4 days apart: Priceless
True.
"it's always a good night when _______ posts"
I don't care because I didn't ask, clown
it's super dark, but "you have books, so murderous gay necrophilia" is so absurd, i can't help but laugh.
"Clearly they were practicing witchcraft"
-The Russian Police, probably
It's a dumb claim.
It’s crazy they are so used to lying and having it accepted that they even tried this. Also why did their minds go there?
which is why I don’t believe the friends at all either lmao everyone’s lying here
@@willissudweeks1050 vranyo
it had to be the police, too many clues.. the attempted blame-shifting to alcohol, the hostility towards investigators, and too seal the deal - that unique necklace
When Jorge says awry as “are we” it legitimately broke my brain for like
A whole minute
It took me a second and i was like "did he mean uh-rye"? And now im questioning if i even pronounce it correctly
It’s “are we” I’m pretty sure. Or I’m just dumb.
@@cherrychip_ no it’s “aw rye”
@@cherrychip_
It's not are we 😂
Same 🤣
I immediately thought of my mom when it was mentioned he worked for Greenpeace. She was once chased through the whole of Belgium by unmarked cars when working for Greenpeace on a mission that had to do with the pollution of a certain oil company. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but hearing her story it wouldn't surprise me if he was killed as an example.
yeah, my friends and family are big environmentalists and a lot of them have been detained, heckled, stalked etc... scary but really changed the way i view the government growing up
Many GP activists have had attempts on their life, I have almost no doubt that the police were involved, and the murder was most likely orchestrated by the industrialists in question.
Sure she was 🥸🤭
Greenpeace is full of pos individuals that are supportive of ecoterrorism. I wouldn't blame anyone for chasing them off.
Как же погано, что на русском ни одной нормальной статьи по этому делу. Впервые слышу об этом убийстве, хотя оно произошло относительно недавно. Спасибо за освещение этого дела
Думаю очевидно почему нету. Подливает в маcло огонь, и теории комментаторов вполне могут быть правдой
Hey, local siberian here. Really, sadly I don’t think that anyone from Siberia or even Russia will be shocked by that case, why do you think Aleksei Balabanov's movie “cargo 200” exist.. People here are very angry and often have caveman mentality, using different sexuality as curses to random people and hating any good political or non-political movements. When they live in cold, dark and far away country side, they can relax only with alcohol and beating random people on the streets. That’s average lifestyle of people from siberia.
I don’t think people in other countries OR EVEN people from city’s like Moscow can understand how hard it is to be a young person with modern knowledge of the internet, surrounded by those caveman and this mentality. That’s why everyone moves from there and leaves those people to be stupid alone and abuse each other like they used to.
That sounds very tough, indeed. Just wanted to say that most Russian people I've met were wonderful like yourself! That's why I hope slowly things will change, thanks to the young people. Take care.
Hopefully you’re old enough to move to another area soon!
@@willissudweeks1050 Thank you! I’ve already moved pretty far ✨
@@yoitsabo Still in Russia?
@@willissudweeks1050 Yeah. Right now it’s more hard to move abroad.. But it’s still soooo different tho
They were probably trying to convince him to stop with the activism, but accidentally convinced a little to hard. I mean why would the police intentionally kill him and also be so unprepared to cover it up?
theres is no logical scenario that doesnt have the russian authorities involved in his death at the very least
Undeniably
The thing is, they are probably the middle man. It seems like his association with Green Peace has something to do with it.
Police scapegoating everyone else is nothing out of ordinary in Russia, so this is not a evidence of their involvement, but necklaces thing is really suspicious. Did they ever give the explanation of that from their perspective?
No explanation I can find. Definitely a cover up.
My guess is they arrested him, he died in custody, and they dumped his body and wiped any record of his interaction with police.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 why would he be in custody?
@@dword1399 Because they weren't from around there.
Rule No1 of marxism “Blame your enemy for the crimes you have committed” lenin did it,Stalin etc etc
@@dword1399 involved in environmentalist movements, generally political, from other comments possibly suspected to be gay?
This reminds me a lot of that Icelandic case where someone disappeared or died, so the cops immediately started acting suspicious, did the worst investigation possible, and then basically imprisoned and interrogated the victims friends for like two years or something insane like that till they “confessed”, then they were like yay job well done!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian Authorities had a part in Colin's death, not at all. After all, they nearly killed a friend of mine in the early 2000s. He'd gone over to Russian as an English teacher, and was beaten up by a couple of police officers one night. Yeah, he came home straight away, and warned everyone against going there.
So no, I'm not at all surprised that there is a suspicion about the Authorities being involved, not at all.
You’re a dope head and a liar.
I’d just like to say that people who commit suicide can definitely seem happy before doing so.
I doubt this is what happened with Colin, though. The blunt force trauma could mean someone hit him and left him to die, or he got hurt and subsequently died. And haven’t the russian authorities killed for less?
I feel for his mom the most. RIP.
My cousin was in Porta Rico once and she was walking down the beach and she woke up in the Hospital with a bad head wound out of an induced coma. It looked like somone came up and smashed her in the head. It was a coconut. She was smashed off the head by a coconut no joke and it’s actually a common thing. Not saying there is palm trees in Siberia but maybe a branch or rock fell Idk.
Yeah but he still had to be taken away from the cabin. It sounds incredibly unlikely that he would just...wander off in that state, and even if a branch or rock did hit him at the cabin...who would just take an unconscious person away like that if they didn't have bad intentions? It just doesn't make sense
I don't think thats what Jorge was implying; definitely, someone can appear happy before they commit suicide. However, it's usually still seems unusual to outsiders who may know that person well and know the mental turmoil they're going through. By saying he seemed normal, he just means there wasn't any obvious changes in his demeanor(such as being outwardly depressed OR overly/unusually more happy, and of course other signs.)
@@fighterman4812 he could have walked out to pee and somthing hit him in the head like a rock or tree. Why would someone have to had taken him out of the cabin? He could have wondered on his own. Maybe even sleep walking.
Off topic but I am also a Rachel C born in the 80s so I felt the need to comment and say hi.
Beautiful homage to Colin. Thank you Jorge.
I have never heard of this young man before today. His life seemed so full of love and adventure and kindness and appreciation for people and their culture, land and language. What an amazing life he had as both a warrior and a seeker of the new and unchartered..
Everyone: A person has disappeared.
Russian Police: He's gay so that really doesn't matter right?
Why do they hate gays so much? Why do people hate others for something they can't help? Could just know they're not hurting anyone and just not hate them.
@@Roadent1241 because they are super old fashioned and conservative
@@TheHybridWizard Their population is also dying out so they're willing to do anything to save it
@@Roadent1241 I know right? God forbid someone prefer someone with the same gender as them. The whole whining about gay people is honestly petty and pathetic.
They don't matter more..
There's something wrong with that autopsy report.
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Your bladder empties out within minutes after death, so there's no way Mr Madsen was found with a full bladder. Even if he was beaten, your bladder will empty out from the stress.
Nah, Mr Madsen died within minutes of being placed under that tree. Placed in that position.
Full bladder when he died not when the autopsy was taken
The bladder sometimes empties at or right after death, especially when it's a high stress situation as with death, the muscles being contracted by stress loosen. However it's not some automatic thing that happens when every person dies. Plenty of people die with urine in their bladder that isn't released at all. If it isn't released by the time rigor sets in, then the muscles harden and contract again, though it may be released when the body passes out of rigor mortis because by then, the muscles don't just relax but cellular breakdown begins to happen. Gravity also plays a part- someone standing, sitting or reclined is more likely to release their bladder at the initial relaxation than someone laying completely flat, though this is also affected by factors like the health of the deceased and the fullness of the bladder.
@@mommy2libras was about to point this exact thing out and you beat me to it, kudos to you! Yes, not everyone urinates or defecates directly after dying. It’s common but it varies massively depending on circumstances
@@ihoardcathair6636 true that it's not 100% occurence but it is quite common and even more in cases of strangulation or asphyxiation. So if the independent authopsy review is to be believed then it's rather likely, that there would be some if not full secretion. On the other hand torture by electricity if done "right" might cause asphyxiation, leave almost no marks and could explain the lastong tension of sphincters.
Strange that his bladder would still be full if he had been beaten to death,, fear and trauma would cause one to release his bladder. The fists closed are also strange. Strangest (to me) of many strange things in this case is that his body would not have gone straight to a pathologist's office for an independent autopsy, -that it was the morticians at the funeral home who found and documented his wounds. I mean, that really stands out. The first thing you would want is to determine the state of the body. That is what's going to show how a person died. But no mention is made of a second autopsy. As for as why he left the cabin in that state, that he went to pee makes the most sense. It seems to have been a one room cabin and no one was else was awakened,, and then just grabbed by people snooping on them. (we can only speculate). It would be good to know the dates and temperatures,, bc that could explain his body being preserved,, if its very cold, it slows decomposition, but nothing I can see explains not having a second, independent autopsy, performed on him. Anyway, sad story. Poor kid. He really seemed like a good person.
It could be:
Colin was going to the bathroom, lost his way somehow because this was at 2-5 AM, so it must’ve been dark, and encountered the Russian police, they beat him and end up killing him, and then dump his body elsewhere.
So opportunistic instead of premeditated? That’s definitely a possibility.
You left out the part where they blamed it on "the drunk gay orgy"
No, because he didn't die that night. The police mustve held him hostage for some time.
@@nukiradio I now see this, my apologies, that too
@@tinamariegallox Yeah, should’ve added that in somewhere, whoops
2 uploads in 30 days?!?!? This is truly a time to behold. Thank you Jorge!
Great video. Love your channel.
Also, another clue to the police lying about hypothermia:
Victims of hypothermia generally die with their eyes closed on account that their body "falls asleep" before it shuts down. Doctors and scientists say that as the body shuts down from hypothermia, the person dying begins to feel warmth instead of bitter cold. Thus the reason they appear "sleeping" when found.
I'm no mortician or death expert, but my understanding is that people who die with their eyes and mouth open are usually victims of a quick unexpected death or a violent, stressful death. I remember watching an interview with a serial killer in jail (name escapes me) who said his favorite part of murdering someone in cold blood was watching the eyes dilate before they died. A mafia hitman named Richard Kuklinski also mentioned the same thing. He said he'd kill men at point blank range and then stand over the body and watch until "the light in their eyes disappeared."
Like I say, no expert on post-mortem stuff, but I think his death with eyes and mouth open would indicate something very stressful or quick and unexpected.
I feel bad for him and his family. 🙁
Important Lesson: Russian Law Enforcement is sus af.
No, people frequently die with their eyes open as they skip away. Their jaw relaxes after death and thus their mouth is open, especially if they’re lying on their back at the time. (RN of 40+ years, at the bedside of many patients’ passing.)
@@mandywalkden-brown7250 this comment was talking about hypothermia closing the eyes.
Great comment
Also open eyes and mouth, the nose as well are prime targets for insects and scavengers, would show the most signs of decomposition in "8 days lying on the ground in a forest"
Poor Colin. The police are either really lazy so that’s why they were trying to pin it on the friends, or really annoyed that their cover up wasn’t readily accepted. It could be either. The killer(s)… I can’t wrap my head around their motivation since his money was left on his person. Maybe a cocky cop cuffed him and something unfortunate occurred that lead to an accidental death which was then terribly (but apparently it’s good enough to accept?) covered up.
russian police is very very corrupt
Foreigner - one of the least powerful people in a society (not any specific nationality, I just mean any person in a foreign social hierarchy)
vs
Police - one of the most grossly overpowered people in a society. The authoritative strength to do what they want, and the connections to cover it up.
Coulda been literally anything. Maybe they didnt like the way the he looked at them.
russian police are very lazy and corrupt
@@kasperdomagala4544 if not, they’re very suspicious
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The police killed him because he was a climate activist, and their job is to aid and abet the corporations and governments in their longstanding endeavor of actively destroying the planet so they can make more dollars. All police are hands of the state.
Dude had a Brotherhood of steel tag from fallout on his necklace, as a fallout fan this hits even more. RIP Colin.
Ad Victorium to Colin
I had a feeling that was the direction the story was headed even before you mentioned Greenpeace. I remember watching Navalny's video of him exposing Putin's palace and he mentions environmentalists being arrested and tortured for protesting against trees being cut down where the palace was being built, without even knowing what was being built at the time.
By around 13:00, I’m getting a really strong feeling that Colin had some kind of run-in with authorities that ended in his death, and as this goes on, that feeling is just getting stronger. He could have stepped out of the cabin to urinate or to check on a noise and gotten diverted by someone who was already around the cabin, intending to cause trouble or looking for something to steal.
Right? It’s like he went to take a pee in the middle of the night and this is when it happened.
The fact that his hands were clenched when they found him . . . Doesn’t that only happen in specific situations? Like being burned or grabbing someone strongly???
Yeh and the fact his eyes were open when his body was found. That seems weird
@@nukathecat4319 eyes usually stay open when people die, funeral directors have to close them. It's pretty normal
Cadaveric spasms happen sometimes, most often in the hands. It's usually a result from excessive use of the hands (or whichever muscles are affected) before death - this often occurs in drowning, or hanging, but also in assaults. So the clenched fists don't allow you to make any assumption about the cause of death. Open eyes, however, are pretty normal. You see them all the time if you work in a hospital. Hope that helps a bit :)
Thanks I didn't know that
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It's very normal for dead people's eyes to stay open after death. As a nursing student it happens a lot. And it's so fucking hard to close them again after death. You need a tool to force them shut
This seems extremely open and shut- the authorities did it.
They got mad he was a member of Greenpeace, killed him and took some of his stuff (the necklace, the body in general) to hide. When the boys came forward, they pitch the idea that they got drunk and had intercourse with the body (a completely random and particular claim to make) When that story obviously made no sense, they set the body up in a random field, with the addition of his pants pulled down to add credence to their molestation narrative. The smoking gun is the necklace, they forgot to put it back on him, and sold themselves out.
I've only ever heard LordanArts cover this case, so I'm amazed to hear it here. Man. This story is traumatizing just to hear. This has stuck with me more than any of the other thousands of hours worth of things like this I've listened to.
i love how quickly the officers began desperately screaming colin was gay, with no concept of how far the world had progressed, and how little it would help their little coverup
it would in Russia.
Gay cops often do this, projecting their own feelings on the victim.
I don't think the world has progressed as much as you think it has.
@@antipsychotic451 Was just going to say the same thing.
@@SpawnIsCrazy It's true. Doesn't have to be 'cops' necessarily, but in this particular example, I knew someone who was horrifically murdered by a closeted cop. Look up the case of "Jesse Valencia"
"It's kinda difficult to believe the authorities would've killed Colin"
no i can absolutely believe the authorities would do that. literally any time I hear anything about any government or law enforcement all I can think of is the post that went something along the lines of: "anytime you think 'the government would never do that!', they can and have done that"
1 minute gang
Jorge is always worth dropping everything to listen to
:)
Cultured profile pic, best girl
It's weird to see Jorge work out, it's like I forget he is a real person with a life outside of UA-cam sometimes lol.
😂 weird to see him anywhere besides in front of a PC
You watch these? Huh.
yeah haha it's like seeing your teacher outside of school or watching videos of the guy who plays Connor in Detroit Become Human as himself
Is that even him for real 😅
@@sinonasada9078 no it’s the commercial
Couple of questions: 1. His stomach contents should give a more determinate time of death, why wasn't that discussed? 2. What was the temperature during the times he was gone? Many people think hypothermia is caused by cold temperature but, it doesn't need to be that cold. The head trauma....could have that been caused by him running into a tree. He may have thought some wildlife was chasing him and he ran into a tree in the dark. It could have been his friends. They may have been goofing off (they were up until 0200 and hiking at 0500) an accident happened and he died. They left him there and went to bed. DO we know for sure he was in the cabin that night?
Something that should be addressed is why several experienced hikers arrived at the cabin at 2AM and planned on waking at 5AM to make a challenging hike with only 3 hours of sleep and having hiked until 2AM before that.
It makes me suspect that his friends were perhaps in some sort of trouble prior to Colin's disappearance.
Yeah, that is strange. I've hiked out in Central Asia when I was bigger into it, and you wouldn't do a hard one with so little sleep, though they might have been young and up for the challage.
Likely to watch the sun rise. Even in boot camp you'll have hikes, smaller and bigger. With little to no sleep. It is possible and the human mind won't really break down until 48 hours
People in their 20’s can do A LOT with three hours of sleep. I say from bed before 9pm. 😂
@@garrettabcdefg4602 No doubt about that. I just wouldn't think they would intentionally push themselves physically and mentally. From the video, it seems the group was geared more towards exploration and enjoying nature, rather than testing their mettle with extreme conditions. Wanting to watch the sunrise does make sense though.
@@bonniea.1941 This is true also.
"It's difficult to believe that Russian authorities are involved in Colin's death."
Europeans: 🤐
polish people: "yeah, yeah, Russians.......... VERY NICE PEOPLE!"
Lol right? When he said that I side eyed my bedroom wall. The second it became clear that this story is about green American in Russia, there was no mystery about his death anymore.
especially keeping in mind what they do on OTHER nation's territory, cant imagine what happens on their own
To be fair, 80% of that is just western racist anti-Slavic propaganda
but the remaining 20% is spot-on
What I em trying to say is that if the Russia authorities don't like your face, they won't bother investigating your death, and will most likely pin the blame on your friends to "teach them a lesson"
They won't kill you tho, unless you directly choose to mess with them.
@@invisible_can you mean like the USA?
Untied shoes, no socks, and the rest of his stuff still in the cabin?
Dude went for a piss and encountered someone who didn't like him being there.
I think the strangest part of the whole thing is the Authority's reaction.
It would be one thing if they just ignored the case but yelling and spitting to people asking about it, accusing them of being gay who wanted to just have an orgy, their consistent attempts to accuse them of being drug addicts or alcoholics, their general demeanour to the lack of evidence to their accusations.
It's just... It kinda sounds like a cartoon episode where an evil company tries to (poorly) make the good guys look bad, you know what i mean?
It just feels like a lot of unnecessary effort for something they could just dismiss.
When the necklace thing came up the thing that immediately came to my mind as plausible was one person taking it as a disgusting souvenir and perhaps the other(s) found out and forced them to "return it" because that would've been a HUGE loose end and would've for sure got them caught. Which again, points to the police.
So thankful to have found this channel. Super interesting videos :)
In case you care: awry is pronounced ah-RYE (like eye)
In case you don’t: no worries, just thought I’d share
Thank you for the comment, I was gonna post if I didn’t see one :)
Aww and rye bread is what I think when I see the word
He's also pronouncing the city of Irkutsk wrong. There's no A sound at the end.
Yah I had to check if I’d been pronouncing it wrong this whole time. There’s been many times where I’ve read a word many times but never said it out loud - when I do it’s wrong
I came here for this comment 😂
Always been a fan of you since the creepy pasta videos, keep up the good work bro ! 👍🏼
His position when he was found to me it means that he died face down, arms held, and...sorry...abused not just by one person (at least two to held each arm). Possibly the police did it or knows who did it. Too late to know if he got any messages or calls before leaving the cabin. But also he may be known or spotted beforehand, since he used to go to that place, right?
This is kinda common in my country. I'd think that cops pulled him aside (maybe to arrest him, maybe to show off or get some money) and then one cop got overboard with the use of force and they had to cover up the result. In some places, all you need to get into the police force is wanting to have a gun, so imagine a whole force of your average idiot high school bully.
We have a lot of those in the USA. The types of people who were evil, wretched children grow up to be politicians and police. Now we have an army of IRS thugs with the only prerequisite for the job being "do you want to own and handle a firearm?" And I'm sure those guns will strictly be used for diplomacy.
Wow!
wow who would have guessed cops were behind the whole thing they're always so very trustworthy
I know right cops never do any wrong it's crazy
We really need to police the police now, make sure the bad apples don't get in, I'm sick of this, it's just getting worse even over here now. Apparently the past year alone, where everybody has been indoors, the police just got bored and started hurting people. Apparently they don't have girlfriends either,t hey can't go home and get consensual bed fun, they have to take innocent unconsenting ones and kill them so they don't tell.
Or just replace them all with androids, therefore no stupid allo urges to worry about. Robots ent gonna screw anyone, thank heck, unless an Eden Club is built and only they will have the right parts.
@@Roadent1241 At this point you need to learn that it's not bad apples. It is their job to maim and kill if a civilian becomes disruptive to capital.
@@EvE-zenbymr And if they're not being disruptive? Innocent people have been killed by them.
People that communicate via sign language have been killed by them. What bad were they doing not being able to hear and cooperate as wanted?
@@Roadent1241 I should probably have clarified that i am distinctly anti-statist and have a burning hatred for police. My sarcasm did not come through in my text. I'm not gonna blame you for misunderstanding, because there are an-caps in these comments who really do say the darnedest things.
oh my god we studied in the same university in Irkutsk i was so shocked to see a familiar face in my recommendations. a shocking story but also the complete inaction of the russian authorities is so expected, we have to deal with every day living in russiia, so done with this country it makes me sick
Jorge always talks about these cases like a pro. I could totally see him a detective game like ace attorney.
Hmm, yes a fellow Feh player I see
Ace Attorney is a legendary series
some of these cases would be sick af in ace attorney
I don’t know why but the month of November and your vids coexist together in my head, so glad to see this upload! Hopefully we can get another upload before the end of the month :)
"It's difficult to imagine Russian authorities killed him."
No, not at all honestly. There's a reason every Russian I've known in my life has had a huge distrsut of the police.
I've said it once and I say it again: Never hike anywhere near Russia.
That's what I've been telling Bald and Bankrupt, Simon and Harald Baldr.. but they just won't listen.. shm.
I love the natural progression jorge's videos have been going in. starting from top ten creepypastas to urban legends to mysterious deaths, not once has it felt like a step back and I love it.
Great video as always homie. Thank you for once again using my music :)
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The cops really said “He was gay and so were all his friends so quit looking into his mysterious death”
7:19 "So it was concluded that we killed Colin"
I mean, that's what a investigator who doesn't give AF would say just to brush the case off quickly.
"And then made sexual intercourse on his dead body"
HOLD ON, WHAT?
Russia is one of the biggest countries in the developed world where homosexuality is outlawed, heck even telling someone that gay people exist is illegal. So that doesn’t surprise me that the police, which is in the government of Russia, would believe that about people who support “western” ideologies
@@SignatureFox713 The part about insinuating they're gay isn't the issue. (I mean, you're right, it's outlawed in Russia.)
But I still think you're missing something major in that final statement.
I admire his friends for seeking the real truth in the face of the initial cover-up, becuase as soon as they did, I could tell the next step in the story would be "...so the cops blamed them, instead."
Rest in peace Colin Madsen.🙏
I know you won’t see this comment
But I LOVE your channel
You are one of the few UA-camrs that puts genuine effort into their videos
I hope you reach 2 mil soon
He saw it
@@zenten1266 you gave up on making vid s? Same in that case
They blamed the other hikers for having sexual intercourse with the body, while also insinuating that Colin was gay. The Russian assassins weren’t even trying to be subtle.
Ah yes books, the clear sign of a murderer 🙄
I’ve read a lot of books so I’ve probably also killed a lot of people? 😂
@@bonniea.1941 I know about that secret room under your basement floor.
@@anonymousher0 You won’t tell anyone, though, right?? 😂 Sadly, I live on the west coast and don’t have a basement. 😭 I have to hide the bodies in the crawl space which isn’t as efficient. 🤷♀️ I guess I should give up reading for the sake of society.
You hollow out books to fill them with your murder tools.
From the information given in the video (I've not looked anything else up) I believe he was ambushed either immediately upon exiting the house by a group of law enforcement personnel or perhaps as he was walking to the outhouse. They may have been waiting for the entire group to leave in the morning but Colin was the unlucky first out the door. After this he was taken away, possibly to a van, stripped of clothing and interrogated about information regarding other Greenpeace protesters and/or future protest events. Eventually they grew tired of questioning him and killed him (the KGB and authorities likely have numerous ways of killing without leaving immediately obvious marks), brought his body to the tree where he was discovered and hastily dressed him knowing there were multiple search parties in the area.
I'm from that part of Russia and I personally knew Collin for a year. We used to see each other in the same parties from time to time. He was a nice friendly guy and this story makes me really sad. But I hardly see a possibility of a murder. Crime rate here is very low but chances to get lost in a forest and be frozen to death are high. Nature is really harsh. Sorry for saying that. But in my life I've never heard about killings but I my self got many times in trouble at nature. There are always troubles from bears to horrible cold... Ask me any questions if you have some... Anton
Buryatia has a high crime rate, It is not low. And do you think there is no police corruption there? Buryatia has been under scrutiny for years because of police abusing suspects
@lotus_flower2000 Thank your comment! I agree. But Arshan is not like the rest of Buratia. It's a touristic place. I've been there 30 times at least walking at nights here and there and never felt in real danger (of people). It's only experience of me and my friends though. Police there is not so proficent in covering anything up and kept the secret forever. It's easier for them to arrest someone asap and get an award from the government. They are paid for solved cases, not for accidents or closed cases. Just my opinion, but it might be wrong
I feel really bad for this kid's family, but jeez I could have warned him that doing Greenpeace antics in Siberia can get you tortured and killed by the Siberian petrostate. There's places where doing that kind of thing is a total deathwish (Saudi Arabia is another).
Yep, that was my thought exacly. Don't go to a possibly dangerous place like that and act against the norm, its just asking for trouble. Sometimes its best to just conform and stay quiet to save your hide until its time to leave.
I live in an area where there is a lot of lumber harvesting and I know that environmentalist who mean well and come to our area trying to prevent logging are seen as outsiders who are going to prevent many locals from having a livelihood. If you mess with peoples way of living they can become violent and very upset. I think that Americans who go to foreign countries trying to enact some kind of a political agenda need to be a lot smarter. Still breaks my heart for this mom who lost her baby boy and I feel very bad for her.
My man jorge, you're spoiling us with great contents back to back, stay healthy 👍🏽
Respect for labeling the ad in the timeline
its always a joy hearing Jorge's voice at the end of a long day.
It definitely sounds like the authorities have something to do with this. Quickly jumping to blame others with absurd accusations, acting aggressively towards his work, and being reluctant and showing no interest to help really sounds like a dead give away, and being as they’re authorities, it would make it all that more easier to hide.
Has Greenpeace said anything about this case? You’d think that if he was an active supporter of their work, they would weigh in on what happened.
Oh man, I can’t wait to disappear and have blameitonjorge cover my whereabouts while being sponsored
It’s gonna be lit 👌👌
What if it is the first vid to be sponsored by Raid shadow legends?
Without a doubt in my mind it was a hit job from a Russian agency . It’s so obvious
yes, someone knows it was a hit and why. not fair , who knows maybe there is some extra information floating around that is kept private.
Nah, it was a big international company having fun "deterring" those damn hippies in the way, police were probably on the payroll hence the sloppy job, say what you will about Russia's agencies but one thing they have is plenty of expertise
What a talented, bright and amazing young man. What a shame this young man met his fate like this.
"Awry" is pronounced "uh-rai" and not "or-ree." Not a criticism, just a pointer.
Oh reelly, something went awry, uh raight?
@@raksh9 I think it's a case of reading a word and you understand what it means but you've never heard anyone say it. I had the same thing with the word "cache." I thought it would be pronounced "cash-ay" but discovered it was simply pronounced as "cash."
Just one of those things, no big deal.
@@TheRoberino2001 In Australia, 'cache' is pronounced 'caysh', like cake with sh instead of ke. And cachet is pronounced 'cash-ay' in Australia. Funny stuff.
Ngl, I had literally no idea what he was trying to say there. Tried listening numerous times and couldn't figure it out.
@@ADeadlierSnake yeah he has actually pronounced it this way in several videos, i have no idea why it keeps happening
A much needed upload. Welcome back Jorge!
That 80s synthwave playing in the ad was a vibe!!! lol Man's ads are even good. Get him a show UA-cam!
It’s worrying to me that no one seems to have mentioned the fact they accused his friends killing him and then “doing it” with the corpse.
That is horrific and an extremely crazy assumption to come up with. It’s appalling that anyone would accuse someone of that without a shred of evidence to back it up.
Also, I’m seeing a lot of people say that Collin was homosexual, which I’ve not seen any evidence for. I did watch the video, not just listen. But I might’ve missed it, if there was any reference to it. So correct me if I’m wrong.
I think the comments belief of this are coming from the authorities being quick to claim them to be homosexual foreigners having “sleepovers”. From what I’ve seen, they were just hikers. Nothing about what I’ve seen implied homosexuality.
And finally, what else I wanna mention is that people are saying he was attacked by a bear or stag when there’s literally no evidence to suggest that.
His body was intact, there were no gashes, stabs, or bite marks which would’ve been seen with an animal attack. The only wounds were bruises to the wrists, tiny cuts and slightly torn clothes and blunt force trauma to the head. Nothing indicating an animal attack.
I swear it seems like people didn’t even watch the video. Jorge, explains many pieces of evidence and people seem to have completely disregarded them. (Also not a fan of the people making jokes out of who killed him either. Kind of fucked.)
Russians are weirdly homophobic. His mother said the police kept trying to pressure her into admitting her son was gay and they also accused his friends of being gay because according to them straight men don't come to that area with books and no alcohol or women.
@@plastichouseplant Which is like, wtf? Who would look at some guys who like books and aren’t alcoholics and think. Oh yeah, gays. (Side note, as if gays don’t like to drink either?)
Lol someone said a stag attacked him? That's dumb af. I mean a bear is too considering that'd be obvious but I can't imagine someone thinking "oh yeah he got murked by a deer" 🤣
I am loving these shorter videos lately, but I’m also missing the older, longer style of video. Almost in a mixed feeling sort of way where they are both so amazing that it’s hard to choose between.
As soon as Green Peace was mentioned, yup.
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I think the fact his socks were missing is important. The fact that it hurts when he walks without them because of his scars leads me to believe that he intended to be out for such a short time(such as using the bathroom) that it wouldn't hurt, or that he went out for a longer time and something happened to his feet that required him to take off his socks. The fact his hands cut and clothing was torn also leads me to believe that he was dragged or maybe fell from somewhere. It looks like in the diagram that he fell out of the tree, especially if his hands were cut, since climbing can do that to your hands. The way his body was positioned doesn't make sense though in the case of the falling from somewhere. His position seems like he was stretched out from someone moving him, but maybe he did it himself, since some people lay in that position when tired. I can't think of much else with this but I think these points are important to think about.
1. its pretty much confirmed that this wasnt an accident and he was killed from blunt force trauma
2. the tree in the model shown int he video is more of a focal point to enter and end the video. Having something to focus on to end and begin a story with is very common
@@gabbo7101 you make a good point. The only reason I considered an accident was that maybe the trauma was from falling and hitting their head
The necklace is a key detail, though. He was wearing it when he left the cabin. He wasn't wearing it when his body was found. Yet the police gave it back to his mother???
@@ncisfan1002 yeah that is suspicious, the only reason I can think of was that it was left in the cabin and found by the police later in an investigation of the cabin
@@Dice-Eater They didn't even investigate the cabin. Plus if it were left in the cabin his friends would have seen it there