It's a nice low priced clone of the Maxon RTO700. The Maxon RTO700 itself was a clone of the Tube Works Real Tube Overdrive albeit with an integrated noise gate. The Tube Works Real Tube Overdrive was an evolution of the B.K. Butler Tube Driver. The stock tube in the Behringer Vintage Tube Monster is quite horrible though, it sounds a lot better after a tube replacement. Since it uses no clipping diode, op-amps, or transistors and relies purely on the tube running at starved plate voltage for distortion the quality of tube makes a lot of difference for this pedal.
I was a huge fan of the Tube Works stuff back in the 90's. Especially their combo amps and MossValve Power amp. I think BK Butler actually worked with them on some stuff back then? I'm all about analog tube preamps > digital post gain FX > SS power amps currently. Just got a Victory V4 "The Jack" preamp and it's quite honestly the MF'n Shoizbot!🤟✌
I bought one of these a couple of months ago. I use it as a bass preamp in front of my pedal-board - (Bass - Behringer VTM - Marshall ED-1 - Boss ODB3 - Amp). Sounds awesome, so many tonal options with this setup.
Thanks for using a pre-recorded guitar track to demonstrate the pedal! I appreciate it as it removes the human element and players adjusting their dynamics to get the sound they most want to hear. While that is great while playing and practicing, it doesn't demonstrate what the pedal alone does to the sound.
Just bought one off Reverb. I love it! It sounds amazing with my Tele with True Custom Shop Wicked "T" pickups going into my Monoprice 15w with Sovtek EL84s, EHX 12AX7s and Celestion Vintage 30 upgrades.
This is my first time viewing your channel, came here for a review of this specific pedal. I’m impressed with the frequency analyzer idea. Wish more pedal demos did that. My question is this. What are you running through the pedal during that section? White noise?
@@DomeNightbearer ah, should have figured that. Makes more sense. Well, anyway, great idea and I’ll be subscribing to your channel for that reason alone.
Great review! thx Dome. In my option the pedal is a no-brainer at this price especially when you are into vintage sounds like 70s rock. But I did not know it also works this well behind a nasty pedal like a dead stag, hm-2 asf.
Thanks for the review. I have mine with the original tube. It's louder but the tube does not apply that much saturation. I had no idea the difference between those tubes is that drastic, but the new tube is from a slightly different type.
Huh, I actually own one of those, and yes, it is bloody gigantic... I did replace the stock 12AX7 with a JJ ECC82 (aka. 12AU7), though... however I did keep the original valve, because I saw no reason to throw away a perfectly functioning valve for no reason. Anyway, I kinda want to add it to my setup again, because for certain situations, I really like the sound of it... but, again, that thing is a giant metal brick and I lowkey have no idea where to put it on my desk without it being in the way ._.
I've had one for a number of years. I would say, personally, you need to swap out the stock valve (there's loads of options if you do you research), and it's best going into an amp. Going into line level or di box doesn't work for me. Do that and you will get real meaty sounds
I want this guys voice to say everything that I hear for the rest of my life. It sounds so wonderfully menacing! This dude could say, "I am going to eeeeeat some break FAST cer-eeee-al!" And it would sound like the apocalypse was coming. Please sing in some band. Or come to my house and narrate my day, "Now he eees going to dah baaath ROOM! Now he eees drinking some TEA!!!"
Again awesome review. I snag one of these babies for third of the price new.😁 Not bad if you're in the mood to play Good old fashioned rock and roll you keep rocking man 😎🎸🤘👍
i saw your other video of the tube king analysis.. even when people says tube monster is a clone of tube king.. you demonstrate that there is a lot of difference between both EQ. which one do you prefer the more?
@@DomeNightbearer A / B would have been fantástic. Even so your separate analisys is awesome… people say tube king runs inside 400 v. I believe you say tube king is better..
I'm tempted on buying one, your video helps and I really liked it more before you used that other pedal since I'm more of a blues/hard rock guy so I will probably go direct to my tube amp. Thanks.
Ive got vtm 999 in front of a two notes le crunch and in when the le crunch is in red mode the sound is like a stonebreaker Feedback is hard to bare so noisegate is needed Use a xtone duo for after effects with Yonac ToneStack also cab sim and amp sim (poor mans kemper) Update i’ve got a metal muff w topboost and the sound is great, even with the topboost engaged the sustain after a thundering palm mute is as if the gates of hell are opening strangely the noizegate on the vtm is more able to do its job now
It sounds okay but the fact that the volume has to be dimed to even be level is a little upsetting. Maybe as a preamp into a tube power amp it would have more push. I dunno, I was not as impressed as I hoped to be. Been checking these out for years. At least there is now a video that actually showcases this pedal.
I thought the same thing about the volume drop. Maybe an eq after to bring up the volume but it’s really eats a lot of pedal board space that a tc tube pilot with eq might be a better option?
Interesting; pedal sounds good. It’s really hard to tell it’s not an analog tube amp you’re playing into (axe)... I wonder how the behringer/kma pedal combination would do in front of a SS amp ( like an older Randall; etc). The “ tube” might make a difference??? Thanks for the video!!!
@@DomeNightbearer yes I agree. My original post; I meant maybe behringer tube pedal might make a SS amp (Randall RG for example) sound more tube like....
@@johnjcjr it should be able to go either way...which ever you like the best...if you go into the power amp in it will defeat the preamp section of the amp and only the pedal will be functioning as the preamp....I have not actually had time to try this since I made my original comment but it should work well
if you find one with an original tube...change the tube...and if youre looking for wilder sounds theres some info on the webs about supplying higher voltage making an improvement.
It's a nice low priced clone of the Maxon RTO700. The Maxon RTO700 itself was a clone of the Tube Works Real Tube Overdrive albeit with an integrated noise gate. The Tube Works Real Tube Overdrive was an evolution of the B.K. Butler Tube Driver.
The stock tube in the Behringer Vintage Tube Monster is quite horrible though, it sounds a lot better after a tube replacement. Since it uses no clipping diode, op-amps, or transistors and relies purely on the tube running at starved plate voltage for distortion the quality of tube makes a lot of difference for this pedal.
Thanks for the background story on this one 😊
I bough that tonight for 30$ US, Man !!!!! The best i tried!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was a huge fan of the Tube Works stuff back in the 90's. Especially their combo amps and MossValve Power amp. I think BK Butler actually worked with them on some stuff back then?
I'm all about analog tube preamps > digital post gain FX > SS power amps currently.
Just got a Victory V4 "The Jack" preamp and it's quite honestly the MF'n Shoizbot!🤟✌
Does this have the stock tube? Because if so, its far from horrible lol
@@the-np4mr The reviews on Sweetwater don't really recommend changing the tube. This is a one trick pony effect.
I bought one of these a couple of months ago. I use it as a bass preamp in front of my pedal-board -
(Bass - Behringer VTM - Marshall ED-1 - Boss ODB3 - Amp). Sounds awesome, so many tonal options with this setup.
Thanks for the visual, much easier to see than try and explain whats happening!
Thanks for using a pre-recorded guitar track to demonstrate the pedal! I appreciate it as it removes the human element and players adjusting their dynamics to get the sound they most want to hear. While that is great while playing and practicing, it doesn't demonstrate what the pedal alone does to the sound.
Just bought one off Reverb. I love it! It sounds amazing with my Tele with True Custom Shop Wicked "T" pickups going into my Monoprice 15w with Sovtek EL84s, EHX 12AX7s and Celestion Vintage 30 upgrades.
Was always curious about this one. Thanks for showing it off.
Great pedal to experiment with. I wanted to push gain higher and was very satisfied. I can't wait to interchange tubes and see the effect.
This is my first time viewing your channel, came here for a review of this specific pedal. I’m impressed with the frequency analyzer idea. Wish more pedal demos did that. My question is this. What are you running through the pedal during that section? White noise?
It's pink noise!
@@DomeNightbearer ah, should have figured that. Makes more sense. Well, anyway, great idea and I’ll be subscribing to your channel for that reason alone.
Great review! thx Dome. In my option the pedal is a no-brainer at this price especially when you are into vintage sounds like 70s rock. But I did not know it also works this well behind a nasty pedal like a dead stag, hm-2 asf.
Thanks for the review. I have mine with the original tube. It's louder but the tube does not apply that much saturation. I had no idea the difference between those tubes is that drastic, but the new tube is from a slightly different type.
Huh, I actually own one of those, and yes, it is bloody gigantic... I did replace the stock 12AX7 with a JJ ECC82 (aka. 12AU7), though... however I did keep the original valve, because I saw no reason to throw away a perfectly functioning valve for no reason.
Anyway, I kinda want to add it to my setup again, because for certain situations, I really like the sound of it... but, again, that thing is a giant metal brick and I lowkey have no idea where to put it on my desk without it being in the way ._.
I've had one for a number of years. I would say, personally, you need to swap out the stock valve (there's loads of options if you do you research), and it's best going into an amp. Going into line level or di box doesn't work for me.
Do that and you will get real meaty sounds
TOTALLY agree!
Great video!🎸 What do you think. Its can be used front of an audio interface to get a "tube amp" feel ?
How does this compare to VT999 ? And what about swapping to a TungsoL 12ax7?
Thanks a lot man. It reminds me of Mesa Rectos
What is that software you’re using in the first 3 min to show the frequency response?!
Voxengo Span
Great review! Thank you so much!
I want this guys voice to say everything that I hear for the rest of my life. It sounds so wonderfully menacing! This dude could say, "I am going to eeeeeat some break FAST cer-eeee-al!" And it would sound like the apocalypse was coming. Please sing in some band. Or come to my house and narrate my day, "Now he eees going to dah baaath ROOM! Now he eees drinking some TEA!!!"
Quite the awkward compliment, but thanks I guess 🤣
Again awesome review. I snag one of these babies for third of the price new.😁 Not bad if you're in the mood to play Good old fashioned rock and roll you keep rocking man 😎🎸🤘👍
Who woulda thought.im experimenting tomorrow
i saw your other video of the tube king analysis.. even when people says tube monster is a clone of tube king.. you demonstrate that there is a lot of difference between both EQ. which one do you prefer the more?
oh, I couldn't do an A/B-comparison, but from memory I think the Ibanez was a bit better... but I may be wrong 😅
@@DomeNightbearer A / B would have been fantástic. Even so your separate analisys is awesome… people say tube king runs inside 400 v. I believe you say tube king is better..
I'm tempted on buying one, your video helps and I really liked it more before you used that other pedal since I'm more of a blues/hard rock guy so I will probably go direct to my tube amp. Thanks.
I'm planning to mod mine by installing a cab simulator withsince it still has enough space to put some electronics on it
That's a rad idea!
Ive got vtm 999 in front of a two notes le crunch and in when the le crunch is in red mode the sound is like a stonebreaker
Feedback is hard to bare so noisegate is needed
Use a xtone duo for after effects with Yonac ToneStack also cab sim and amp sim (poor mans kemper)
Update i’ve got a metal muff w topboost and the sound is great, even with the topboost engaged the sustain after a thundering palm mute is as if the gates of hell are opening strangely the noizegate on the vtm is more able to do its job now
I have a feeling I'll be getting one of these.
It sounds okay but the fact that the volume has to be dimed to even be level is a little upsetting. Maybe as a preamp into a tube power amp it would have more push. I dunno, I was not as impressed as I hoped to be. Been checking these out for years. At least there is now a video that actually showcases this pedal.
I thought the same thing about the volume drop. Maybe an eq after to bring up the volume but it’s really eats a lot of pedal board space that a tc tube pilot with eq might be a better option?
He needed to adjust the Threshold Knob on the Pedal!!
Interesting; pedal sounds good.
It’s really hard to tell it’s not an analog tube amp you’re playing into (axe)...
I wonder how the behringer/kma pedal combination would do in front of a SS amp ( like an older Randall; etc). The “ tube” might make a difference???
Thanks for the video!!!
I personally think the axe fx is just this good you can't tell the difference anymore, but it might the tube as well 🙃
@@DomeNightbearer yes I agree.
My original post; I meant maybe behringer tube pedal might make a SS amp (Randall RG for example) sound more tube like....
I played guitar from the age of 28 until about 38 and now I can no longer stand the sound. Wish I didn't.
great video....
Use it as a preamp into a boss katana amp and you're welcome.
I'm about to do exactly that🤘
DarkLight, do you recommend connecting the VTM into the regular panel input, or the power amp input?
@@clintonmichael7607 did you try this, how did it work? How did you connect it to the Katana?
@@johnjcjr it should be able to go either way...which ever you like the best...if you go into the power amp in it will defeat the preamp section of the amp and only the pedal will be functioning as the preamp....I have not actually had time to try this since I made my original comment but it should work well
9:07 reminded me of SEGA`s Jungle Strike music theme.
Use it to boost a valve amp 👍
“Boost it Tre”! ( gear gods )
Booooost it
I have the same pedal with the same tube by jj.. I think u got a faulty one!
The Tube was changed on this one. I actually quiet enjoyed it 😅
I bought mine off mercari for $35. Last year earlier.
if you find one with an original tube...change the tube...and if youre looking for wilder sounds theres some info on the webs about supplying higher voltage making an improvement.
Indeed, the original tube in it is terrible. It sounds a lot better after tube replacement.
It's a copy of the Ibanez tube king. I own both.
Ibanez TK999 Tube King
Very nice at the price, but takes up way too much of your real estate.
At the price of a tube screamer, mmmmmmm.........
Petal
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It started out sounding like crap and only got worse.