LIVE: Why Tube Pedals Exist (w/ Browne Amplification)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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Who killed Kennedy? Is Roswell what we haven't been told? Are tube pedals a gimmick? Is a higher power trying to tell us something?
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Guitars:
Browne Amplification Jaguar Style, Tele Deluxe Style, Jazzmaster Style
Bass Rig:
Frog Pedals FX1 Ruggedized Preamp
JHS Klon Clone
Nash ’63 style P Bass
Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2
Pedals:
Ernie Ball VP Jr Tuner / Volume Pedal
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Damage Control Timeline
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TC Electronic Tube Pilot
Gamechanger Audio Plasma Pedal
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Akai Shredomatic
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Behringer Vintage Tube Overdrive
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Fender MTG Tube Distortion
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Fender MTG LA
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Guyatone TD-1
Guyatone Tube Echo
Bravo Audio Tube Soap
Chandler Tube Driver
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BK Butler Tube Driver
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Tube Works Tube Driver
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Satellite Amps Eradicator
Aspen Pitman Duo Tonic
Ibanez NuTube Tube Screamer
Seymour Duncan Twin Tube
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Guyatone Hell Monster
Guyatone Funky Box
Westbury W-20
Voodoo Labs Mondo Power Supply
Boss Waza TU3
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EHX Tube Zipper
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Ibanez Tube King
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Maxon RODSS1
Maxon Tube Compressor
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Vox Silk Drive
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Vox Copperhead Drive
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Behringer Vintage Tube Monster
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BK Butler Mini Matrix/Mini Boogee
Milkman The Amp
Misc:
Ernie Ball Pink Cables
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Mono Pedalboards Carbon Large
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Ernie Ball flat patch cables
Daddario DIY Pedalboard Power Kit
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Rolls MS111
Shure SM7b
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Cloudlifter
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If I may offer an explanation since I wrote a paper on this once. Tubes are very slow to change state compared to transistors. This means that if you "overdrive" either a tube or a transistor, they're going to react differently. Generally speaking, most transistors operating in audible ranges can go from the highest level to the lowest level (nearly) instantaneously whereas a tube will take a fraction of a second to make the same transition. This means that the output signal on an overdriven transistor will tend to deform square, whereas an overdriven tube will tend to deform sawtooth. The difference in these 2 sinusoidal shapes, if represented by a Fourier transform will show you that the square wave is the sum of all of the even harmonics of the root tone, whereas the sawtooth wave is the sum of all of the odd harmonics. In musical terms, the third harmonic is the "dominant" harmonic and the one you would most associate with the root tone and the harmonic most audible - aka: "Warm", and the 2nd harmonic will sound slightly dissonant aka: "Harsh". This is also why you can find a "slower" transistor and get it to sound "tube-like".
Tomas, you just won the award for Most Insightful comment on UA-cam. Congrats and thank you!
ah yes, even order harmonics vs. odd. Never read an explanation of that until now. Thanks!🤘
LIES!
The second harmonic is just a perfect fifth from the fundamental, technically less dissonant than a major third (if you want to judge dissonance by simplicity of frequency ratios)
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This channel is the perfect example of how to turn caring about the things ‘nobody cares about’ into a business and flat out fun entertainment. Inspiring.
Huh? I care, I think lots of people care.
It's a myth that nobody cares. if nobody cared, nobody would watch this. But they do. Thousands do. So, thousands care.
@@matthewpollard2843 im watching and I dont really care but might be on the verge of caring.
@@jacobsmith6773 Most people care. I mean, the people watching this.
If you don't care, just turn up the passion!
Just wanted you guys to know that my 5 year old daughter was really getting into the jams and said, “Woooooah, that’s alotta pedals!”
That's adorable I wish I knew what pedals were when I was 5.....the closest I got was an obsession with Todd Rundgren's "Bang the Drum All Day" and ELO's "Strange Magic" lol
You gotta get a board going for her. I have mine tinker while I play, and she loves synth pedals
No she didn't
Nick: explains this complicated Cyber Punk/Time Travel scenario, explains the mechanics and the character motivations of all the major characters even explaining the contemporary politics of the situation and gives the character Johnny's entire back story.
Josh: just plays whatever psychedelic riffage he was planning on playing
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Def Looper plot line borrow - unless it was 12 Monkeys.
I’ve gotten to the 36 min mark, and all this time Josh’s Jag has been on the darker “Jazz” Neck pickup circuit. He thinks he’s on the bridge, but when the upper horn/bout square switch is up, the Jazz circuit is on, and the normal pickup selector switches are bypassed. This is why the tones are so drastically different between the two guitars....different style pickups notwithstanding, as Mr. Browne was using the “normal” circuit.
Edit: yep, the above applied for the whole broadcast, so everything Josh played was played with the Neck pickup on the dark “Jazz” circuit.
Cool show regardless.
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I was just about to post the same thing and was looking to see if somebody else already pointed this out
OKAY lol I just posted the same thing but I'm kinda drunk and sleep deprived and messing with my guitar and thought I must have overlooked something.....since surely if it stood out to me rn it would have been clear to Josh if it were truly so simple. I've not really found any reason for me to want to use the rhythm circuit on a Jag, it will make anything sound "throaty" with those pots.
@@presinald I use the “jazz circuit” on my Jazzmaster for massive fat fuzz tones and also for pseudo bass or baritone type tones.
I want JHS to make a good Tube Driver style pedal now.
So when are you guys going to stream Dungeons & Dragons with Nick DMing?
I would definitely watch that no joke at all
@@dylandenney3980 Me too
I'm reading a book called "Chip War" by Chris Miller and there is some back story on tubes as this is a sort of monograph of the transistor. Fun fact- the term "debugging" comes from having to literally scape bugs of tube equipment (like military stuff, bomb sights, coms) because glowing tubes attracted bugs to them.
My electronics teacher told us about working on the Norad computer.. imagine a room in the Arctic that has air conditioning to keep the heat from the tubes down. Like 4-5 tubes per latching circuit, which is one single bit. And now I carry more computational power in my pocket. Old tube computers are wild.
Even the drummer is allowed to speak.
So much love here, in my old band our drummer was gaffer taped to be quiet during band meetings.
All drummers talk about is money and drugs. That's why nobody wants to listen to them normally.
I think the jams and the mood stories are the best part of these live shows!
I saw Ministry on tour in the 90s and my friend’s brother was their sound engineer, they had an entire bank of tube power amplifiers powering the PA system. Tube powered PA system. Amazing! Loudest and fattest bass I have ever heard in a concert by far. Ministry used a lot of digital samples and drum machines and keyboards, so the tube PA really warmed and fattened up the sound. It might not have had the fidelity of a regular PA but the way the sounds blended together was really musical.
Seriously i love all of your episodes whether it's about a specific type of pedals or a brand. They're all educating. Unfortunately i can't watch them live cause i'm working but i get to watch them later after work. Thank you Josh and everyone in these videos!
Damn, this dropped like 5 minutes after my Carvin Vai tube preamp pedal arrived from the boys at UPS. must be a sign
Ooo that sounds sick
Well?
What if you built a “Tube Screamer” pedal using actual tube rectifiers? How would it sound, would it sound any different or better than the TS, how big would it be, and how expensive? If you gave one to Joe Bonamassa and got him to us it, I bet it would sell!
I bought a Behringer Vintage Tube monster years ago and I modded it with a BitMo mod. It's great to use as a second channel for an amp if you crank the output and only add a slight amount of gain. It's also fun to use it with lower output tubes like the 12AT7 or even a 12AY7. Loved the episode! Thanks :)
It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Should've had the Kingsley pedals on the episode
100%...So many tube boosts/overdrives are such a letdown that I wrote the concept off.... but the Kingsley pedals are spectacular.
I love the jams. It is the closest thing I can get these days to live music. It reminds me of band practice in my rock and roll days (lights and sound baby)
The story nick just created in his mind without even trying is better than any Hollywood storyline of the last 20 years.
I'd say 30 years!
I want the atmospheric filter tube helmet.
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Also, mother's bush was pretty crazy in the 90's .worth the listen !
The EHX English Muff'n is the best tube pedal I've ever played. It might be the only one, come to think of it... But even from an OD pedal standpoint, it's still pretty great. It was my live drive for a couple years.
+1 for the EHX English Muff'n.
+1 on the muff'n, it stacks well with other gain stages for balls out crazy.
I actually think we all want the Rhett Shull Passion Drive.
Im pretty passionate about this idea.
@@RhettShull as you guys say over there....’Getterdun’!
Yes!
A "Plan B" pedal. Is there one?
@@JInfinity7 nope.
when Josh hit that Passion knob i felt a rejuvenation poring over my soul . i now have to have the passion pedal in my life.
I have the Koch Pedaltone, which is actually more than 'just' a pedal. It's a full tube pre-amp with no less than 4 12AX7 tubes and 4 footswitches to create 16 different settings. I love that thing. I've played it for 11 years and it never let me down. It deserves more attention, but the brand is not widely known outside of the Netherlands, except maybe for the amp that Dolf Koch built for Greg Koch, aka The Greg.
I have one too, have owned a lot of stuff over the years and I think it's one of the best sounding bits of gear I've ever kept.
Design is what makes it sound good not the tubes. Some tube preamps sound horrible.
Whether the tube means anything or not, my VT-999 is great. I changed the tube and my buddy modded it. It is one of my favorite pedals. Cost me $50 plus parts and time so like 80 bucks total. So good.
what was the modification?
What tube and MOD? I've just bought a 12AU7 for mine.
I got the Behringer 911 vintage tube overdrive and it's the 1st pedal I've ever modded. Did the Bitmo mod and have changed to different tubes but still am not impressed with this 1. I use an older 3 knob Tube Driver thats been modded by Fromel with a bias knob. I change the tube in that trying different feels to it. Also have a newer 5 knob Tube Driver that I also experiment with changing tubes. The modded Driver is on my board and I'm running it at 18v for more headroom. Its pretty cool but its just 1 of 3 drives in the board. The others are a Alchemy modded Blues Driver and a Meat and 3 modded Soul Food. Lots of variable sounds to use and stack.
Ya'll need to stop giving Behringer money.
Disappointed that my all time favorite was not included - the Blackstar HT-Dual. It's huge, heavy, and uses an oddball power supply, but sounds better, and has a more flexible EQ, that anything else I've tried in the last 10+ years. Love the show!
The delivery on Dave's "it's called passion" was excellent.
The drummers storyline could be a new Hawkwind record and also some of the songs you played
@@meenis I want to try it
They could pick the recording in a cd and the story in another one and bang, double cool cd.
Love old Hawkwind stuff
I want some of whatever Nick is having.
I'm extremely impressed by all the Vox tube technology. Their Cooltron pedal series was a bit big, but the sound was fantastic. The Garage series is phenomenal as well. The Straight 6 is really nice, wide frequency spectrum, and can be used to replace a preamp (via effect return) and turn your Marshal or Fender amp into a Vox amp sound. And I've found that changing the tubes in them actually does change the response just like it does in your pre-amp, even if the tube isn't being run at full voltage.
And their Valvetronix amps, which use a 12ax7 to emulate the compression and warmth of a real tube power section, are EXTREMELY nice. I blew the preamp section up in my Vox VR30R and rewired it so the input now just runs direct to the power section. You can't tell the difference between it and plugging your guitar into a 15W tube amp via the effects return jack.
Dude, I've only played the big Ben overdrive from those series, but I love it. It's been a staple on my board for years, even though it's so big. I'm thinking about trying some other pedals from the cooltron series, especially as many of them are pretty inexpensive now. I honestly think that one day people will realize how good they are and the prices will skyrocket. Doesn't matter too much because I'll never sell my big Ben.
Also, I've never owned or played another drive pedal that does the big Ben "thing". I usually use it with the gain between 9 and 12 o'clock while pushing the volume to around 3 o'clock. Sometimes I'll crank the gain and that sounds cool too, but I like it lower gain stacking with other pedals. It's kind of my always on pedal and the tone control is great for handling different guitars well. The pedal beefs up the whole signal chain without being too muddy and never being too harsh. It adds a slight and slow feeling compression to your signal while you're playing, but still retains good dynamics. Btw, I mostly play through a vibrolux and an ac30.
Do other tube pedals do all of that too? Let me know your thoughts and what cooltron pedal I should try next!
Vacuum tubes were used from 1907 onwards as the first electronic three terminal devices that allowed audio amplification. In 1947, John Bardeen, Walter Brattain and Bill Shockley invented the transistor, which is a solid state device ( first in Germanium, later in SIlicon, hence the place wher Shockley started his company was called "Silicon Valley" ) that has the same basic functionality. SInce transistors are more reliable , smaller, and have lower heat dissipation, transistors replaced vacuum tubes in almost all electronic circuits. Tubes only survived in very high end audio equipment ( including guitar amps) where the very small differences of the response curve is deemed important by some people, and in Russian jet fighters since vacuum tubes are not destroyed by the electromagnetic pulse of a nuclear detonation.
Close. William Shockley founded Shockley Semiconductor in Mountain View, CA after kind of burning his bridges at Bell Labs. Shockley was a tyrant though & drove away the 8 engineers he took with him to start his company. Those engineers went on to found Fairchild, Intel, AMD in the same area which led to naming the area 'silicon valley'.
That part about Russia and nuclear detonation you mentioned a year ago? Let’s hope not.
Thanks again, fun episode! I wanted to speak out in favor of tube pedals, and offer a constructive criticism. I've used a tube driver for years, and I've found that they're a mess with the gain up high, but super usable at lower gain settings- Gilmore and EJ seem to use lower gain settings, too. EJ's tone settings (both down all the way) make for a fabulous dirty boost in front of a marshall. I also wanted to give a shout-out for the SIB varidrive, which rules. That is all.
1:42:15 TC Electronic Tube Pilot ;
Ibanez NuTubeScreamer 1:42:36 ;
1:45:02 Vox with NuTube ;
Fender Tube distortion 1:47:47 ;
I tried a NuTubeSreamer in a shop once, with intention of using it as a dirt channel with a clean amp, and quite liked it but 250eur was too expensive for me.
I came for the pedals. I stayed for Nick’s epic tale.
When’s the movie coming out? Btw nick’s drum fills are so tasteful.
The story is incredible and I’m barely at 50:00
@@trav1th3rabb1 I have a feeling Nick won’t be here next week. He’ll have optioned the story to Bruckheimer and retired.
Next week you should just get rid of the jamming and the pedal talk and just let nick do a storytime for a few hours.
Where can I get my JHS tube helmet?
How is "Themonic Emission" not a new T-Shirt?
That’s a band name if I ever heard one
You made a tube pedal show without the Mesa-Boogie V-Twin pedal?! How is it possible to leave the real thing out?
Came to the comment section to look for this exact remark. Didn't take long.
I still don't know what to think about the v-twin
@@WatchingMamut Harley-Davidson did okay with the V-Twin.
I have a Kern Wah pedal that runs with a tube Pretty cool especially on clean stuff 👍
Josh, the Westbury Tube Overdrive is the pedal used by fusion guitarist Shawn Lane (one of Paul Gilbert and Eric Johnson’s heroes). He used it to get his (warning: buzz words ahead!) warm and violin-like lead tones.
He's also one of Bucketheads heroes, IIRC. Bucket is one hell of a guitar player & musician in general.
I really appreciate the teaching aspects of what you’re showing us. It has really helped me navigate and figure out (try to figure out at least) the world of pedals. I’ve been playing since I was 12, not to be a sap but I’m in my early 30’s now and I only had ever just used a wah and the amp(s) for everything because that was all I ever needed. Now over the last couple years trying to watch and learn everything I can and try stuff out I sincerely appreciate all of the content, humor, jams, and education you guys provide. I started basic with my board and it’s grown like everyone else’s but I’m pumped to put my first JHS pedal on there, support the channel and you guys and get down with the cause. Thanks for everything, seriously!
28:00 Smashing Pumpkins live flashback from ‘92ish.
“The Fetching Gourds”
Very "Rinoceros" isn't it?
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I'm really impressed with however they get those drums to sound so awesome. Well-played, too!
It's all about the microphones. Plus, I'm pretty sure that Nick uses a few different effects depending on what he has miced.
The special thing about tube pedals is similar to the special thing about tube amps - responsiveness. You can adjust them so that they are very sensitive to your guitars volume control AND your picking dynamics. Just like early tube amps, they can get very dark when cranked. That's why some of them need treble boosters.
I can't really say that that was the aspect that was really demonstrated in this video ;)
the stories nick weaves in these videos make me wonder if he's josh's dad. or at least the real mastermind behind jhs.
I had such regrets about not getting to watch more than the first third live, so getting to see the rest now was heavily anticipated, solely in hopes of getting the Josh take on a specific pedal. The AKAI SHRED-O-MATIC getting such time on the episode was personally fulfilling. It is one of my favorite pedals to talk about, where people listening to me don't know how to react. Hearing Josh basically matching my enthusiasm for it was validation I was never counting on. If it wasn't for that bizarre in/out reversal in the layout, I'd use it live a lot more... but it's still proven useful when re-amping recordings over the years. "That sounds great" it DOES, and considering all of the pedals from people like Two Notes that have come since, it's amazing that this is so under recognized.
This was very groovy and not the dad rock type random jams that I've been seeing a lot. Do more serious jams like this. People will love it.
I know this is an older video at this point, but you commented that, "People hate our jam sessions." I thoroughly enjoy the jam sessions in these videos. They highlight the pedals and their capabilities and you guys play great sounding stuff. 🤘🎸
28 minutes in, killer jam. Situation normal, all Joshed up. Love it.
I have a Maxon Real overdrive tube pedal. I always use 12 volts into it, sounds way better. Hopefully Im not damaging the device, but it just sounds different and better. Thx for the show
I've used as high as 18v but I think I run it at 12 .the original 10v power supply for the ibanez tube king really is about the best sounding voltage though I think.
Josh plays Passion, adds delay.
My stupid brain: ooh, it's tantric!
Simon Jarrett of Kingsley would have been a nice guest.. Just for his guitar playing!
I want a Minstrel sooooo badly.
Yes! He's a humble master!
He lives in Canada.
I have a one off hand made tube pedal made by Simon before he had a company, he is an exceptional player and his pedals and amps are top shelf.
I've had a Hughes and Kettner Rotosphere MKII for almost 20 years and it's still going strong. It's an incredible pedal and one of my all time favorites. The leslie is awesome and the preamp boost is awesome as well. Warren Haynes turned me on to it years ago and man I'm so glad.
Have you tried a hughes and kettner tube factor? Jimmy Herring uses one. I don't have it but I'd like to get one at some point.
@@dangallagher0072 No but I'm sure if Jimmy Herring uses it then it is amazing.
Listening to this through my TV speakers. Im really digging that Hoof pedal. I think it's time I start supporting local pedal builders.
Josh's riffs on the first jam are legendary.
I feel like josh should teach a master class on slide. I want to learn slide like his. Not necessarily the souther rock line whole song of slide but the tasteful rock slide
Groove Tubes was founded by Aspen Pitman and James Hunter (Hunt) Dabney, who made ALL of the equipment Groove Tubes uses to grade and match tubes. Aspen worked out of CALIFORNIA, not Colorado. Aspen tragically died in a car accident. Hunt Dabney is still alive but left GT almost 30 years ago to do his own consulting and engineering for whomever needs whatever. Hunt used to work with my 2nd cousin. They both did everything from medical devices to aerospace electronics.
Hunt Dabney was responsible for about 85% of the technical expertise at GT. Aspen mainly used Hunt's old equipment to try to get special tubes made for GT by Shuguang in China.
Hunt split from GT around 1987 or 1988.
So good to see overdue love for the Tube Zipper. They were very fragile and have a PSU that's like a relic of the USSR, but a lot of fun. Also good from experience is the Wiggler. Same chassis but a trem/univibe. A bit noisy though.
Fuck man, I wish I had 2 free hours to watch all of this. Reminds me of when my friends and I would sit around and just make each other laugh. Your videos are so awesome.
The bassist sort of reminds me of the main guy from Office Space when he’s looking off to the side making the bass face.
I’m compelled to join in the singing of Seymour Duncan’s praises. Their new pedals are killer. I know Josh has brought up the pickup booster. I use a Vapor Trail delay and it quickly became a part of my core tone. The modulation is beautiful with wide ranges of depth and speed + pure analog sound.
Do it, Duncan
I scrambled for my headphones to hear you fire up THE FIRST TUBE pedal, I was excited!!
I use a cheap tube buffer thing I got off amazon in my effects loop on a solid state amp. I don't know if it sounds any different, but it was like 20 bucks, so why not try. It makes a glowing thing ontop of my amp too.
Glowing = very cool
Does it have a name?
When is Nick going to write novels because I want them.
I had the hot tubes, until it went up in flames when my studio burned to the ground. I can't wait to buy one again. It was dope.
I remember having a Dean Markley Overload pedal back in the 90's. I loved it. 12AX7 based overdrive with a hard wired 3 prong plug.
Apparently it was the Tube Driver’s less popular younger brother.
More recently, I bought a Lovepedal built Hermida Dover Drive. It's basically his attenpt do for Eric Johnson what he did for Robben Ford with the ZenDrive.
It hurts my heart to see how under represented Stoner and Doom styles of tone are disregarded. This style of "metal" is LOADED with gain and volume.
There is a VAST amount of "fuzz" pedals that focus on just that and they still get no love. This whole episode is a Doom/Stoner players DREAM!
Check out CSGuitar. He is really good about covers intense fuzzy gain metal sounds
Wait... that sentence doesn't make sense. It hurts you to see how under-represented they are disregarded? You might wanna reword that, & then go find some other channels because they're out there. Probably not under-represented compared to their player/listener base. I mean... that's how UA-cam works. People find what they're interested in, & the market naturally represents the audience.
@@JeighNeither Oh yeah I did mess that sentence up. haha
Also my comment was in reference to the Hot Topics and the chat saying that players use high gain to hide how bad of a player they are which is untrue and there is a whole genre of pedals and effects under looked because of it. I mean just look at the VAST market of Fuzz pedals.
We simply need Nick to run a D&D campaign on a separate UA-cam channel. For the love of the Eye.
I gotta get this out. It's to good to not give it a try. I recently bought a $50 China tube stereo headphone amp. The 2 tubes it came with are 6J1. I put this in all the various places in my guitar signal chain. The tubie goodness improvement stunned me. I put in in the FX loop of a Blackstar HT5. WOW. Massive improvement. I then bought a matched pair of higher grade tubes. GE JAN 5654W. Swapped tubes. I really did not notice much difference. Just my experience with something odd placed in a guitar chain.
The thumbnail of this video is a bit click baity, although I understand why after learning that there’s not much difference between tubes and transistors according to Josh. I found the video while wanting to look into different overdrives, as I had found myself gravitating towards the certain sound that tube overdrives produce. This video was very informative, well organized and thought out, and I learned a lot of things I didn’t know about the history of these pedals. Thank you.
I have the TC Tube Pilot. I’m almost positive it’s the Behringer Vintage Tube Overdrive V911 (a Tube Driver clone) sans the tone controls. It’s a great pedal, especially at the price point, and if you want tone coloring, just pair it with a cheap EQ pedal. Built like a tank, pretty board friendly, and changing out the tube can also change the character of the pedal as well (or so I’ve heard; I still have the original tube). It’s a great poor man’s Tube Driver. I’d love to see a JHS tube pedal; also, bear in mind I have no idea if it would work or be worth it, I’d be interested in hearing something like a Klon Centuar powered by a tube.
I have one - it's in desperate need of a tone control but I don't have the space. I replaced it with a DOD Looking Glass.
@@theresejardinier3913 hmm well Behringer & TC are really the same company so, your probably right
Mr. Scott, I love your channel and you always talking about important truth of pedals!
But personally don't believe the "9V running tube useless" theory.
Starving the plate with 9V doesn't make it diode-fashion hard clipping. Tubes don't work like amp-up the signal and hit the clipping voltage, instead, if they don't get plate voltage, they lose gain too.
So the signal peak is likely never going to reach 9V. The higher the signal goes, the lower the gain tubes could provide it, sounds familiar? Yep, "non-linear distortion" It's still tube sound, it's still why we love tubes
You can go search "Valve Caster", the circuit is so simple that you're going to build it up around 10 minutes. And try stack it after your favorite drive pedal, add some reverb, run into IRs, the sound won't let you down.
very interesting
New t-shirt idea;
‘They’re dying, you’re living’ 🤣
I own an Alembic F2B and it's been the secret weapon for my bass rigs for years. I use it for guitar now. I've recorded a rhodes through it, other analog synths, and vocals. It's the coolest piece of gear i own.
The thing about tube pedals are, if they run at high voltages they are not a gimmick. Like a Kingsley. They’re fantastic
good point - the fact is we have been programed with TUBE and analog till the cows come home . reality is not tube or analog . people need to be honest with themselves , stop using gear as a crutch / excuse . the gear is great but snobbing out , or judging others for what they play thru and i see this all the time really sucks .
I have to agree. I got a older bias knob modded Tube Driver that I run at 18v. I also experiment with different 12a_7 tubes. It could be an"X" or an "U" or even a "T". I use different X's ,U's,and T's just to hear differences. At this point I'm using a old RCA 12Au7 and may not switch for now. But I definitely agree with "MORE POWER".
Why no discussion about Kinglsey pedals?
That last jam inspired me to buy a slide. Thanks for trying those pedals in a mix
28:14 this reminds me of Gish era Smashing Pumpkins. The drums are totally feeding me a Jimmy Chamberlain “Drown” vibe.
Awesome stuff as always but you missed kinda the key point of all this-
Before Mesa Boogie, amp companies did not make guitar amps with multi stage tube stages to overdrive the preamp section. Tube pedals were originally giving you that extra tube stage outside your amp. This Mini Matrix was originally called the Mini Boogee, the idea being if you put this in front of a Fender amp you pretty much had a Boogie Mark I !
So they got sued :) and the rest is history
Nick's imagination should be sealed inside a vacuum tube as a gift to the future
Circling back to check out the jams w/headphones and though I’m 100% biased, Addison’s bass really shines throughout!
hello from 2 years in the past, I'm happy you guys are using the milkman because you guys are such experts/professionals that noone can possibly seriously hate on you on this subject. I love my milkman the amp because it is so easy to take with me (and has a great headphone jack for quiet jamming) and I feel like I'm not sacrificing any tone by using it as my amp, but people take one look at it and they're like "no". So I'm always happy to see it get some love
"The Eye" sounded very much like a Clutch song
I think Ween already wrote that song tho
I like how ominous it sounds, too.
Josh gamgsta AF with that bandage on his face. Nelly-esque if you will.
The thing that is missing from this episode on Tube pedals are Metasonix pedals. They are even more peculiar because the tubes are not "audio" tubes but old 50s tubes for TVs
My thought exactly
Their amplifier head is brilliant, though I can’t discuss it due to “community guidelines.”
I met Bruce Egnater about 20 years ago at a music store in Berkley Michigan just by chance. He was there with his son while his son was getting a guitar lesson, and I was talking to the people there about a rock Tron piranha preamp that I bought, and they pulled Bruce over to talk to me about it. What a thrill!
Nick's stories are getting more and more elaborate. When are y'all starting a DnD group? ...or admitting that you already have one
Also I think it's gonna be necessary to make a new dual pedal: a Rat mixed with a delay/verb that's meant to always be on for ambience but can get really weird too - maybe give it a flerb knob?
As for the name? The Dungeon Master, obviously.
I find that the entire thing frammels thurbly.
Anytime he says "and" here you can follow it with a roll however many sided dice lol
I’m better for being inside this tubular matrix
I love how he's mixing several video games together to tell the jam story
I have (built)a starved tube overdrive and it definitely has a great tone which you can change with different tubes. I build tube amps so I know how it’s working. To say a starved plate pedal is pointless isn’t accurate statement. You can’t get many tones out of the knobs but the sweet spot is genuinely usable and more pleasant than most overdrives that only use semi conductors.
What about putting a tube preamp pedal into the effects loop of a solid state amp?
Yes
I’ll be damned. You did it!
It needs to be a proper preamp, though, like the Kingsley ones. Most "preamp" pedals aren't actually designed to be used as an actual preamp. Most of them, including JHS's Clover, are really just overdrives with EQ.
@@xdoctorblindx Not throwing shade - genuinely curious - what exactly is a 'proper preamp'?
Its not an effects loop, but my variousTube effects into my Fender SS amp sounds great. Keep the output level so as to not overdrive the amp tho.
I just don't have time for 2 hour episodes!
Have to say, "tube is to transistor as light bulb is to LED" is a pretty excellent way to put it.
Nick, I see you with your sparkly golden microphone and I like it. Another excellent episode, thanks champs.
Next????? A facelift???
My ART tube preamp gets a fuzzy clipping.
That tube delay is the closest thing I have heard to my old Tape Echoplex.
Honestly, these all sound like Hendrix in the NY/ London clubs 66/67.
Not that great, but it's a sound. I guess.
I've had my share of tube pedals. I first got a Butler Tube Works Blue Tube. It was neat, and great for bass, but I promptly traded it for a TS9. Next I fell in love with the high gain tone of a Peavey Rockmaster tube preamp. That led to trying a bunch of tube drives. Ibanez valve king, mesa v twin, and finally a vox cooltron "big ben." The vox is solid state with tube output stage, and has it's own thing that's okay in general, but it truly shines when driving my 68 Fender Champ. ...to conclude, no tube pedal ever made me happy. If someone really wants tube sound on their board, I recommend getting a tube preamp you like, and using a loop switcher on your pedalboard to access it. My $.02
I have the TC Tube Pilot, I often use it with a Harley Benton solid state bass amp (with guitar), because it's what I have, aside from digital emulations. With low drive, high boost settings, really has a bit of that valvey, "vintage amp" feel.
Just beng honest, that was a terrible explanation of how tubes work. I'm not saying he doesn't know, he just didn't explain it well, especially to someone who doesn't know anything about it.
Well, he could spend two hours trying to explain voltage gradients to people who dont really care, or he can give a 30 sec basic function explanation and talk for two hours about why you might want one.
I love my Seymour Duncan Twin Tube. It more than just a two stage overdrive, its really a tube preamp. It can make the dullest solid-state amp come alive. And yes, the power input is a pain in the ass at 16VAC.
you mentioned Dean Markley ,well wheres is your Overlord tube distortion pedal ? one of my favs
I was one of the 700 that bought the OC71 Germanium Boost. I admit I bought it purely because it was rare. I got the pedal and I wasn't immediately impressed and the pedal set on my pedal shelf for a while. I then tried it out as a treble boost in front of a Morning Glory and behind a Unicorn Blood Octave Fuzz. It was awesome. It really rounds out a Fuzz. That pedal now lives on my board.
Can’t get over how dope those jams are.
That first tube pedal sounds really good. I like that it isn't harsh on the ear. Sounds more buttery smooth.
The Chandler shines when you solo and thats the only time i thought i was getting closer to what i wanted but i couldnt afford to keep it and returned it.
great show. too short, i love the jams, i like to jam along. waiting for the next one.