YMS Responds to Mario Movie Trailer Reaction's Backlash

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @YMSHighlights
    @YMSHighlights  2 роки тому +5

    Scoot's Twitter: twitter.com/notscotthenson

  • @componentgames
    @componentgames 2 роки тому +1026

    I saw a quote retweet saying "I bet this guy loved the lion king 2019" and I just started laughing

    • @wesshiflet2214
      @wesshiflet2214 2 роки тому +130

      that was probably a joke

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 2 роки тому +4

      Component Games considering he hates animation, he likes subtle animation that would be a good joke

    • @littlekitsune1
      @littlekitsune1 2 роки тому +9

      Did you laugh for 3 hours?

    • @kastiffia9431
      @kastiffia9431 2 роки тому +8

      Again, cos it's twitter, they probably were regurgitating Adum's lion king video. Without realising or knowing they were talking to Adum.

    • @componentgames
      @componentgames 2 роки тому +18

      @@wesshiflet2214 nope it wasn't. I explained to them and they was confusion over how both opinions could coexist

  • @Ryanmiller70
    @Ryanmiller70 2 роки тому +282

    One of the funniest things I've seen from this "controversy" is somehow people are dragging Ralph and Alex into this via guilt by association despite I don't think either of them have said anything about the Mario trailer.

    • @thevoid5732
      @thevoid5732 2 роки тому +48

      Twitter in a nutshell

    • @ChillaxingJay
      @ChillaxingJay 2 роки тому +12

      I swear those people are lunatics.

    • @Ed-zo2gr
      @Ed-zo2gr 2 роки тому +7

      Alex recently said he like bowser

    • @GRIZZDOGG01
      @GRIZZDOGG01 2 роки тому +10

      That's just par for the course for Twitter.

    • @r.pizzamonkey7379
      @r.pizzamonkey7379 Рік тому

      McCarthyism was the original twitter mob

  • @omssu
    @omssu 2 роки тому +156

    I am one of those people who don't use Twitter and I have noticed that most of the time when UA-camrs I follow respond to the drama they have I have absolutely no idea what drama they're even talking about because it seems like it almost always starts from Twitter. :D

    • @All4Tanuki
      @All4Tanuki 2 роки тому +45

      Adum spends too much time reading twitter/reddit and worrying about people who flame on there as if they're representative of his actual fans

    • @trash_chan
      @trash_chan 2 роки тому +1

      Me, too. Sometimes I feel so out of the loop.

    • @JrIcify
      @JrIcify 2 роки тому +26

      @@trash_chan Use twitter for a month and then stop. You'll be amazed how all those things that seem to matter just vanish and don't affect anything. That place is worse than 4chan.

    • @CoOlKyUbI96
      @CoOlKyUbI96 2 роки тому +7

      Even many people who use Twitter frequently agree that the app is trash. Trash because a good significant portion of discourse is just drama

    • @BareBandSubscription
      @BareBandSubscription 2 роки тому

      @@JrIcify
      You’re not lying. 4chan is at least fully transparent in it’s toxicity and totally insular. Twitter is full of toxic, angry people who think they’re so righteous, and their nonsense actually has some tangible influence on the real world and others’ lives. Twitter is garbage.

  • @TheUndeadMew
    @TheUndeadMew 2 роки тому +282

    The fact that most of his audience is off Twitter makes so much sense bc it also explains the unfinished movie drama. Like YMS fans seem pretty chill from my experience so I had no idea where this was coming from

    • @sora3mo168
      @sora3mo168 2 роки тому +11

      yea im not on twitter n i pretty much agreed with him on the voice overs n over animating bowser, im still hopeful some changes will happen

    • @BareBandSubscription
      @BareBandSubscription 2 роки тому

      Twitter is just a cesspool of garbage. It’s a platform full of people who are uniquely delusional about the world they live in.

    • @JrIcify
      @JrIcify 2 роки тому +12

      We'll shit all over your favorite movie but it's not personal. Some communities make it extremely personal, or they'll take it personally when you're just talking about a movie. The real ones know better than that.

    • @Morten_Storvik
      @Morten_Storvik 2 роки тому +6

      @@JrIcify If one takes a dump on something that means a lot to someone, odds are they are going to be upset about it. Understandably so.

    • @Moowe291
      @Moowe291 2 роки тому +5

      @@Morten_Storvik See that's funny, because the things I REALLY like or enjoy I don't even share or ask for an opinion. Not because I don't want to hear negative reception, but because I'm probably spending that time watching or doing those things as we speak, even right at this very second. If you like something, you don't waste time telling everyone about it.

  • @Spartan_5271
    @Spartan_5271 2 роки тому +91

    It looks like Bowser is saying something else, but they changed it to something generic for the trailer

    • @BitterSweetAerith
      @BitterSweetAerith 2 роки тому +3

      My first thought was also like “uh, is his mouth even matching??”

    • @Bong_Jovi
      @Bong_Jovi 2 роки тому +4

      It's not even close to the dialogue, definitely has to be re-dubbed animation

    • @BassBanj0
      @BassBanj0 2 роки тому +5

      It seems to be the case many times in the trailer

  • @jessechuff
    @jessechuff 2 роки тому +321

    see I do think its over animated, but I dont think it's horrible or distracting. like, once you mentioned it I was like "sure they just made him move way too much for one line" and it would have been better had they dialed it back. but still, this entire trailer in general was just wayyy better than I imagined it would be (aside from Chris Pratt's terrible performance).

    • @Scyborg832
      @Scyborg832 2 роки тому +14

      @Kureiton He made a big deal out of a nitpick? He's not the one who's creating a shit storm because he said "Everything is fine except this thing." If he has nothing to critique except one thing, of fucking course he's going to go in depth with that one thing. He admitted this in the video. And what he said is his preference. This line of logic, that someone is shielded from critique based on socioeconomic or societal pressures, can be applied to every single medium conceivable. This wouldn't even have been an issue if the insane among Twitter hadn't went ape shit about a single critique.
      You're projecting way too hard into this and making it an emotional/moral argument when he literally said "I don't like this. It's bad. It's over animated". Like it's insane that you try to invalidate a stance based on "you're critiquing someone that doesn't have it good on average probably, therefore you're a bad person and your take is invalid."
      He's a critic. Making content off his critiques. Critics don't go "there's absolutely nothing wrong with what I'm watching". If what they're watching is good, they'll NITPICK. Because that's what critics are. If you can't handle critics and start perceiving them as some sort of evil attack then maybe this content isn't for you and you need to return to think-bubble twitter.

    • @Toteke
      @Toteke 2 роки тому +47

      @@Scyborg832 Lotta words. Too bad they don't mean anything. I can still critique his critique and find it lacking. You can't say "they're just doing their job so you can't have issues with it. You're wrong" and think it makes you sound smart.

    • @Aperki2010
      @Aperki2010 2 роки тому +3

      @Kureiton It does look wank though

    • @Kazu_Tsukiri
      @Kazu_Tsukiri 2 роки тому +26

      I'm in a similar boat. In the reaction video, I didn't really get what he meant by "overanimated", especially with Adam's example that he did where he flailed his arms like a drama student. With this one, I get that Bowser had a few too many different "poses" in the scene and it could have looked better, but I still don't see it as a huge deal. Not that Adam is the one making it a huge deal, but even the amount of attention he gave it in the original reaction seemed too much in my opinion.

    • @RammaSten
      @RammaSten 2 роки тому +8

      Terrible performance? He says like, three lines. You don't feel like you're being a tad bit hyperbolic?

  • @jacksonheiniger80
    @jacksonheiniger80 2 роки тому +124

    When is Twitter not mad at Adam?

  • @awfulyowu5157
    @awfulyowu5157 2 роки тому +206

    Putting a date right at the start of the video makes this feel like a post mortem upload

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 2 роки тому +43

      Adum was found dead in an alley on November 18, 2022. The only leads for the murderer was what seemed like tiger claw marks.

    • @troin3925
      @troin3925 2 роки тому +1

      @@theotherjared9824 Nice to know that you can predict the future since you reported it a month early.

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 2 роки тому +1

      It done for anyone watching in the future can understand the context.

    • @undead923
      @undead923 2 роки тому

      It’s a homage to Synecdoche, New York

  • @SupremeMarioGamer
    @SupremeMarioGamer 2 роки тому +95

    Adum saying that subtle movements are more artful than overanimating is wrong when neither is inherently better than the other, it's how the animation is done & how it services the work. Even if overanimating doesn't help the Mario Movie, saying its animation is "less/not artful" sounds more like a personal preference than actual critique.

    • @Scyborg832
      @Scyborg832 2 роки тому +18

      Something being preference and a critique are not mutually exclusive. Almost all critiques are preference.

    • @randomness928
      @randomness928 2 роки тому +5

      He literally said it is a personal preference

    • @TheVenhammer
      @TheVenhammer 2 роки тому +3

      I mean you can say that it's not more or less artful, but if you actually go and watch any sort of basic lesson about how to express weight/power in animation, you learn that if you want to portray a character in that way, you use slow but impactful movements. You can see this for bowser in things like super smash brothers where many of his attacks have a slow start up to portray the power behind them. Having him be animated the way he is in the trailer undermines the entire concept of him being this large, powerful villain.

  • @chasethecringewolf2195
    @chasethecringewolf2195 2 роки тому +109

    Bowsers hot. Thats my input.

  • @ashkebora7262
    @ashkebora7262 2 роки тому +148

    I think the "Now who's gonna' stop me?" Is ADR for the commercial, where he's actually saying "Now no one can stop me". It would make _way_ more sense if his excited, open-mouth expression was for 'can' in such a sentence.
    That's half the problem. I don't know why they ALWAYS do that these days. They frigging always have one or two scenes with replaced audio and it *always* looks like crap. It just makes the movie look like sh*t when the lip sync is bad and the writing comes off as dumb because the whole character of the scene has been changed. Either make a whole different scene for the preview or use a deleted scene. Ruining scenes from the movie for a preview is beyond obnoxious.

    • @hlyianman
      @hlyianman 2 роки тому +2

      That's exactly my thoughts

    • @alansandoval1705
      @alansandoval1705 2 роки тому +12

      Playing devil advocate, the ADR in trailers are made for cohesion more than anything, since the next scene is made to establish who Mario was, the scene before needed something to go smoothly into that; hence the change in dialogue. While I cannot vouch for every movie trailer, it does make sense on this one.

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB 2 роки тому +2

      Because it’s a fucking movie for fans of Mario, and only people who care way too much throw a shitfit over bad ADR for a _trailer_

    • @grimedoc8180
      @grimedoc8180 2 роки тому +2

      @@DeathnoteBB is that an attack on Adum? Because he's not throwing a shitfit at all, he sounds quite apathetic about it and even says in this video he thinks it's fine if you like it personally. If anything, it's the responders throwing a shitfit

    • @kudolemon9888
      @kudolemon9888 2 роки тому

      @@grimedoc8180 it was literally assault

  • @nateroo1486
    @nateroo1486 2 роки тому +159

    Eh I mean yeah, it's overanimated and looks weird, i agree on that front, but Adum was REALLY laying into it. I don't think it's fair to say "I just said I didn't like it" when he was replaying it over and over and constantly saying that it's awful. After a point it stops feeling like a criticism and more just hate, which is fine if you're transparent about it but acting like it was simply fanboys overreacting to criticism is not the best look imo. In the end though it's just a guy making fun of a movie so I don't think the twitter mob was warranted, there was just a better way to handle the response I think. But the criticism given here was a lot more on track with what I was hoping for.
    Personally I thought the trailer was fine. Jack Black did an alright job, Chris Pratt hurt my soul a bit but I see what he's trying to do, and the animation is good even if it's a bit overanimated in spots. The writing seems bad but I'll reserve most of my judgement until the movie comes out. Overall more promising than I expected out of a video game adaptation from the Minion crew.

    • @soul-1641
      @soul-1641 2 роки тому +40

      Exactly, it’s funny that he didn’t show the entire one minute clip of him talking about it and repeating it over and over, like everyone on twitter is specifically talking about that clip and he didn’t even show it on stream lol.
      He’s underplaying it way more here compared to what he actually said in the clip.

    • @moatrboat
      @moatrboat 2 роки тому +4

      IT IS ONE GUY'S OPINION. CALM DOWN. y'all are crazily overthinking things. christ. why are you soooo mad that someone doesn't like something??

    • @Voeris1
      @Voeris1 2 роки тому +20

      Adam can be kinda really petty sometimes, yes... I mean I tend to like that side of him in reviews, it's spicy, but once in a while it is annoying or sad to watch. (this instance didn't bother me at all lol I hate this movie and what it's seeming to turn into... seems like a waste of an opportunity to make a good Mario movie, but we'll see, I'm open to being surprised)

    • @soapbiter36577
      @soapbiter36577 2 роки тому +24

      @@moatrboat Why can't this same logic apply to other people having an opinion on an online content creator's video

    • @catalan8241
      @catalan8241 2 роки тому +1

      @@soapbiter36577 Adam gets mad that the movie isn't how he wants it to be -> People get mad that Adam's opinion isn't what they want it to be -> Adam gets mad that people's opinions of his opinion aren't what he wants them to be. When Adam hates a movie, he feels he's justified to constantly insult and talk down to the people who made it. So obviously people won't hold back when they hate whatever he says.

  • @jonah4588
    @jonah4588 2 роки тому +93

    I personally disagree with Adum about that shot. Since Bowser in the context of the movie loves power, the fact that he has it now has him move like he's excited aka bouncy. I wouldn't attack him about it though. That's just ridiculous.

    • @hakancarlsson2881
      @hakancarlsson2881 2 роки тому +4

      I get what you're saying but I don't think that's what they are portraying. He isn't being giddy coming up to it... He's just overacting a bit.... Too many key frames I'd say... Play it in 0.5 and it looks great..

    • @neonbarnowl
      @neonbarnowl 2 роки тому

      Feel the same, I don't use Twitter but I think the reaction he got was based off that review as a whole. The moment it started he said it looked bad and he didn't like Bowser's voice and then he went on about the 2 second clip which I think was the nail in the coffin. He was just at odds in a very minute way that made it seem like it wasn't a constructive bit of criticism especially cuz the line looks ADR'd anyway so most likely will look different in the actual film.

  • @AbMaSync
    @AbMaSync 2 роки тому +101

    I love that Scoot is now judge of all YMS conflicts, as it should be.

    • @jcnot9712
      @jcnot9712 2 роки тому +4

      More like the defense attorney xD

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 2 роки тому +3

      He'll be like - "This is silly, why are you worrying about it?" - and he's always right, lol.

  • @cameron2069
    @cameron2069 2 роки тому +144

    Look, I really like Adam and will continue to. I think my biggest issue was when he referred to positive comments on the official trailer as bots or like farms, which felt undiplomatic from someone who I think is an otherwise incredibly measured person.
    It was the act of delegitimizing others’ opinions from someone who has taught me a lot about different ways to appreciate and agree/disagree on film. What about positive reactions to the trailer on your own videos, Adam? Are those bots?
    Of course, his other issues such as Pratt’s voice, and going more in detail about his issue with the animation in this shot, I understand better, even if it was an ultra-nitpick hehe. Much respect, of course, and I’ll admit this is coming from someone who is quite excited for this film.
    It’s just that parts of his reaction clip left a sour taste in my mouth, and probably would have even if I weren’t as attached to this project.

    • @アルモニカ-x7l
      @アルモニカ-x7l 2 роки тому +29

      This. That's straight conspiracy theory. Everyone knows it's just a goofy movie for the fans and the kids so of course most people don't make or upvote any negative comment. As far as it looks good, people are fine with it.

    • @jaypking4945
      @jaypking4945 2 роки тому +24

      He didn’t refer to those comments as bots. Adum said that there are bots that search for positive comments to mass upvote them. Not only that, his point was that the general reception to the trailer couldn’t be inferred from the top comments, not that the trailer couldn’t possibly be well received. You kinda misrepresented Adum’s points here

    • @N0VaDa
      @N0VaDa 2 роки тому +21

      100% agree. I love adam's content and everything he does, but yeah some things in the reaction seemed a bit more agressive than usual. The reason there were a lot of positive reactions is probably because the trailer looked way better than expected

    • @thezdude8512
      @thezdude8512 2 роки тому +1

      @@jaypking4945 There's the implication that a conspiracy is preventing the negativity (which isn't proven to exist) to be downplayed. In order for the conspiracy theory to be worth anything, enough people have to be critical and then suppressed, but those people weren't found. It's less of "people can't think it's good" and more "people have to think it's bad."

  • @shadic971
    @shadic971 2 роки тому +231

    I agree with Adam's take on the shot being over animated. but in fairness, he spent like 2 minutes replaying the shot over and over saying "it's bad. It's awful. It's horrible". It's a little unfair to act like "oh I was just saying I didn't like it and now people are mad at me". I know it's not gonna matter in 2 weeks when Twitter forgets about this, but this lack of self awareness doesn't look good on him in the long run

    • @galenplatt398
      @galenplatt398 2 роки тому +30

      Of course twitter is mad at him for analyzing the shot because Twitter is mad at everyone and everything
      I love adam but he's gotta start being more self aware

    • @shadic971
      @shadic971 2 роки тому +24

      @@galenplatt398 yeah no contest, Twitter is insane like he said. this situation isolated is nothing people should lose their shit over. But when seeing him have absolutely no reflection on what he actually said-- just saying "twitter bad lol" and calling it a day-- it makes me worry this might start a trend

    • @dabatman5187
      @dabatman5187 2 роки тому +47

      I personally can’t see it, and the more and more he talks about it, the more nitpicky he sounds to me. So that didn’t help either

    • @Kumaclaws
      @Kumaclaws 2 роки тому +27

      For someone who’s been on the internet for years, it’s kinda weird that he tries to defend himself over some rando on Twitter calling him a big dumb baby for not liking what they like. Like yeah, that’s just how the internet is.

    • @shadic971
      @shadic971 2 роки тому +6

      @@dabatman5187 if that's his opinion on the shot I can't really fight him on it. It does feel like he downplays his take on the shot when presenting it in this clip, though. And that's where my concern comes from

  • @RickRaptor105
    @RickRaptor105 2 роки тому +174

    For this entire video, Adum is shitting on Twitter while conveniently ignoring that the UA-cam comment section of his reaction video is full of the same criticisms

    • @big_slurp4603
      @big_slurp4603 2 роки тому +11

      seethe

    • @boobysr
      @boobysr 2 роки тому +32

      This channel isn't run by him so he probably doesn't see the comments

    • @marthancrowl1674
      @marthancrowl1674 2 роки тому

      Yeah, as much as I like him, he’s clearly developed internet derangement syndrome over the years.

    • @elizabetharmstrong6511
      @elizabetharmstrong6511 2 роки тому

      @@FazerGS sauce?

    • @YMS
      @YMS 2 роки тому +23

      Your comment on the previous video was about Bowser's voice. This is also what the overwhelming majority of the top comments on the original video were saying. This video response is about the "overanimating" comments that people on twitter are freaking out about. If anyone was freaking out about those comments on the original UA-cam video, I didn't see them. Also, the top comments on the original UA-cam video were much more constructive and respectful regardless of what the main issue is within each community commenting on it. I don't understand your point.

  • @tjmauser6954
    @tjmauser6954 2 роки тому +64

    I think the over animation is fine because he seems to be excited but I think adums opinion is completely understandable

    • @biggusdickus1689
      @biggusdickus1689 2 роки тому +3

      Still I refuse to believe a monster of that size would move so easily, unless he's made of fiberglass and paper towels

    • @Leo-pu2ru
      @Leo-pu2ru 2 роки тому +39

      @@biggusdickus1689 you realize it's a cartoon and video game character right? He isn't bound by the same laws of physics as us

    • @tjmauser6954
      @tjmauser6954 2 роки тому +6

      @@Leo-pu2ru bigus can desire realism all they want

    • @bobbymcjoey9432
      @bobbymcjoey9432 2 роки тому +28

      @@biggusdickus1689 yeah, I also don't understand how Mario or Luigi can jump so high...if only they were video game characters or something

    • @biggusdickus1689
      @biggusdickus1689 2 роки тому +1

      @@Leo-pu2ru Yeah but if we're gonna throw all logic out the window then it still doesn't make sense because cartoon logic mean big equals slow. Do they want it to be realistic or not? They can't have both.

  • @Bouncy_Ball_Studios
    @Bouncy_Ball_Studios 2 роки тому +154

    In this specific context, I understand Adum’s point a lot. This actually is how I feel about the CGI in the latest Jurassic World movies. When you compare how the dinosaurs move in the first films (first 3 that is) and the last films, there’s a noticeable difference in the the way the weight of the animals is portrayed. So I agree with Adum that animation can look clunky and “ADHD” like when the movement and weight of the character is not heavily considered.

    • @samuraibeluga3749
      @samuraibeluga3749 2 роки тому +16

      i have been advocating for years that the biggest issues with current cgi, outside of the obvious fact that production companies rush them to hell, has a lot more to do with animation than with visual fidelity. even slightly questionable cgi can go a log way if its animated well. and its hard to tell the source of the issue, is hollywood going thorugh a drought in good animators in special effects or are these artists not being allowed to demonstrate the peak of their talent.

    • @biggusdickus1689
      @biggusdickus1689 2 роки тому +8

      @@samuraibeluga3749 Definitely the latter, they simply aren't getting paid enough to do good work I would stake money it.

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 2 роки тому

      I totally understand the point and see how it happens in modern movies but still not see how that specifically applies to Bowser in that scene who is canonically pretty flexible for his size, he can jump around as much as Mario.

    • @samuraibeluga3749
      @samuraibeluga3749 2 роки тому

      @@islandboy9381 it has nothing to do with whether hes capable of it or not, just that hes overanimated as in his expressivity (not sure if thats an english word, its not my first language bear with me) is exxagerated. Its a question of preference ultimately, personally i dont think it fits bowsers personality to be this expressive. i was actually in until that scene, not only because its obvious we arent getting a menacing bowser after all but also jack black comes throug a bit too much that it takes me out of the character. but that doenst mean i dont want to see him in any other way than menacing. Ultimate point is Subtlety in animation goes a long way.

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 2 роки тому

      @@samuraibeluga3749 Because the subtle animations in Mario Sunshine made it one of the best mario stories right

  • @xolotal
    @xolotal 2 роки тому +7

    Keep this man away from looneytunes

  • @Stew91
    @Stew91 2 роки тому +64

    I definitely feel like there's the difference between having an opinion, and saying the first thing that flies out of your ass. The fact that Adam thought the positive trailer reception was some kind of conspiracy, is HILARIOUS.

    • @reaperz5677
      @reaperz5677 Рік тому +1

      Because it was? It's a shitty brand movie that people were defending before the movie even came out. Like, I kid you not people started shitting on Twitter over the fact that critics that got early access didn't like the movie.
      And gee, look at that, the movie has a bland plot, shitty voice acting and a pace faster than Usain Bolt. It's bad lol.

    • @elijahisaiah8623
      @elijahisaiah8623 11 місяців тому

      In your opinion lol@@reaperz5677

  • @zachtaylor6027
    @zachtaylor6027 2 роки тому +125

    you give twitter way more time and effort than it deserves

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 2 роки тому +1

      I can’t because it’s a clown show and Twitter is more of a weapon these days

    • @Jdudec367
      @Jdudec367 2 роки тому

      as if youtube didn't give it attention though.

    • @juneru2
      @juneru2 2 роки тому +1

      Attention is what feeds the evil of Twitter

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 2 роки тому

      @@juneru2 thank you. Couldn’t have said it better myself

    • @lnfreeman
      @lnfreeman 2 роки тому

      He always has...

  • @SuperWiiBros08
    @SuperWiiBros08 2 роки тому +11

    So I guess YMS isn't a fan of how is done, he doesn't like it and that's fine, he can explain why he doesn't like it, but the way the delivered his message sounded very hateful to some, and some people are just sensitive when they hear someone big disliking something they love

    • @DeathBlossom867
      @DeathBlossom867 2 роки тому +7

      HATEFUL?! He thought the animation looked weird and he articulated it as such. Grow up.

    • @SuperWiiBros08
      @SuperWiiBros08 2 роки тому +3

      @@DeathBlossom867 yeah I know it looked weird to him, I'm just pointing out that for some people it sounded like he hated it, I'm fine with his criticism, and I understand his perspective, also I am growing up thank you

    • @theinternetsightseer2935
      @theinternetsightseer2935 2 роки тому +4

      ​@@DeathBlossom867 You really should tone back on the hypocrisy and practice what you preach sometime pal.

  • @Hannahgs
    @Hannahgs 2 роки тому +56

    I don’t agree with Adam but like…making this into a controversy is stupid lol he doesn’t like it. And it’s gonna be ok. The only issue I could see is that he kind of frames his criticisms as objective a lot of the time which bugs me cause media criticism isn’t objective. But that’s not even what the controversy is so I do not understand

    • @Moowe291
      @Moowe291 2 роки тому +1

      What do you not agree with? It's difficult to understand what you are describing.

    • @Hannahgs
      @Hannahgs 2 роки тому +1

      @@Moowe291 I don’t agree with his opinion on the trailer being bad…

    • @joshuazeeman7553
      @joshuazeeman7553 2 роки тому +2

      I'm sorry but I hate the idea that everyone has to constantly frame everything with "this is my opinion". That should be baked into anything a film critic is saying. Just because you didn't feel like he emphasized that enough doesn't mean he was trying to pass anything off as objective

    • @Hannahgs
      @Hannahgs 2 роки тому +4

      @@joshuazeeman7553 I don’t think that simply because he doesn’t stress that it is subjective. It’s the way he frames the criticisms. There is a huge difference between “wow I really don’t like this I think this shot is over animated” and “this shot is over animated I genuinely cannot understand how you would think otherwise”. If you are a review person you SHOULD stress that this is just your opinion. In the text of the criticism. That’s part of your job. Adam can be very hyperbolic in his critiques which is fine but sometimes it crosses the line into basically saying you cannot in good faith disagree with his take because it is so objectively true. And seeing the types of reviews out there like mauler that genuinely state their critiques are objective, you need to differentiate yourself from that.

  • @PointsofData
    @PointsofData 2 роки тому +25

    I gotta agree with the other person in the comment section who said this; Adum is downplaying his reaction here. He went over and over the shot and borderline whined about it. The backlash is warranted. The toxicity not so much, but I'm sure not every person retweeting him was being heinous. I get his viewpoint but for a three second shot in a trailer for a _fucking Mario movie_ you're really gonna go off like that? Esp for one we aren't sure is taken out of context of the original scene?

    • @soapbiter36577
      @soapbiter36577 2 роки тому +12

      The more attention he brings to the situation and talks about the clip the more ridiculous I think his criticism tbh.

  • @drew1080
    @drew1080 2 роки тому +23

    Adam, this is coming from someone who is neither “a crazy Twitter person” nor someone who is invested in the Mario movie. Your take is just dumb.
    1) The exaggerated, bouncy animation style is EVERYWHERE in the trailer. Bowser yelling “Open the Gates!” caused his entire head to lunge forward. His giggling made his whole head bounce. When he shoots his flame breathe he has to cock his head to the side before firing. Why is that shot the one that is “too bouncy”? Cuz he does it a lot? The character is excited and on top of the world in that shot.
    2) Probably my biggest issue was when you tried to undermine the interpreted expression. You said in a very disparaging tone “What am I even supposed to interpret from this? Excitement and evil?” Like c’mon, man. It’s obvious the character is excited and that you correctly interpreted the intended emotion but you couldn’t even give that to the animators. That reads as nothing but bad faith.
    3) The animation just isn’t that bouncy or crazy. His expression and emotion does not change remotely enough to take away form his intended emotions, nothing about his movement takes away from his “slow, tank” aesthetic (it’s not like he’s a giant mech or Godzilla or something), and again, there are several points in the trailer where the style of movement is the same and none of those scenes are worthy of criticism.

  • @dandyjacoby
    @dandyjacoby 2 роки тому +16

    He could've easily just ignored the criticism. It was only a trailer reaction. Who gives a shit what people thought? I don't agree with his point on Bowser being over animated but why address the negative comments? He's been doing this for years now so you'd figure he'd learn to take it with a grain of salt and move on.
    I don't dislike Adam or his content but this was pointless.

  • @bladimirvideos
    @bladimirvideos 2 роки тому +37

    The issue me and others had as far as I can tell is that he was being overly negative. Saying things like "it's horrible, it sucks, its garbage." Yeah bowser is very animated...and that's a bad thing why? Yes the movement and expression could be subtle, but at the same time this is mario, characters have always been VERY expressive. But that's just my take, chris pat still sucks and I think we can all agree on that :)

    • @danieldsantiagorodriguez4955
      @danieldsantiagorodriguez4955 2 роки тому +3

      I don't think it's inherently a bad thing, but if you're familiar with Bowser in the games, he's not spastic or overmanimated in his movement. That's all that's being said. Though I will agree, Adum tends to fixate on things in an overcritical matter from time to time.

    • @Princeomishore
      @Princeomishore 2 роки тому

      also the fact that he was suggesting that any criticism was removed from the mario trailer and implying the comments praising the trailer were bots.

  • @AJGuineaPig
    @AJGuineaPig 2 роки тому +18

    As much as I enjoy most YMS content, Adum absolutely deserved the backlash, but not so much the toxicity. The fact that he hyper-focused on that one scene that looked perfectly fine overall just made Adum come off as an insufferable manchild. While I can understand where he was coming from, since Bowser did seem pretty weightless and light for being a heavyweight character, it’s not really out-of-character for Bowser to be overly expressive as he’s demonstrated that in plenty of the mainline games; that’s completely different from over-animation. However, the way he put it in the original reaction vid was unnecessarily aggressive and just blatantly hateful. He constantly kept replaying the scene just to say, “it’s terrible/awful/horrible”, and then has the nerve to play the victim card and sugarcoat his initial reaction as, “I just thought it looked off, that’s all”, in this video. It didn’t help his situation when he came up with some weird astroturfing conspiracy about how all the people in the comments of the trailer were bots and comment farms just cuz he’s in the minority of people who hated it. “Oh no, people genuinely enjoyed something I hated and don’t share the same opinions as me, they must be BOTS!! 😱”. However, with all this into consideration, it’s never okay to harass people anywhere about opinions and such, that’s so fucking pathetic and doesn’t make you any better than Adum. All in all, this is probably one of the biggest L takes Adum has had in a while, and his cynical and jaded attitude has become completely unbearable now. But that doesn’t justify all the hate he received on Twitter. That is just downright pathetic and childish.

    • @DrawtoonzStudio
      @DrawtoonzStudio 2 роки тому +1

      Well said with all of this. Thank you for being mature and level-headed.

    • @md-fi7zt
      @md-fi7zt 2 роки тому +1

      A little harsh, but yeah. Itd be ok if he stopped at the "bowser shouldnt be moving that fast" or "bowser should sound cooler" but accusing the people who saw no problems to be bots was really dissapointing, frankly. All i can hope for is that he doesnt milk it for the podcast and itll fade into the aether.

    • @falsedavidbowie368
      @falsedavidbowie368 Рік тому +2

      I flip flop between liking Adam and finding him genuinely insufferable. I enjoy his let’s play channel, the Adum and Pals videos as well as this highlights channel (sometimes). I continue to be frustrated with his increasingly pathetic campaign against The Lion King remake and I look forward to the day when he finally moves on from TLK.

    • @reaperz5677
      @reaperz5677 Рік тому

      I ain't reading all of that. I'm happy for you though. Or sorry it happened.

  • @LucidPhoton
    @LucidPhoton 2 роки тому +48

    Adam was literally the only person to complain about Bowser wether it be the voice or animation. People will say he was over animated, i disagree. Bowser can be as animated as needed because of how comedic he is.
    It's fine if he thinks that it was over animated but the fact he focused on it so much just killed whatever point he was trying to make.

    • @spase667
      @spase667 2 роки тому +4

      Isn’t that just Adam’s review style? It’s not the first time he’s hyper fixated on details.

    • @skydiamsteam6005
      @skydiamsteam6005 2 роки тому +8

      @@AwsOm3Fac3 "I win, bye-bye" vibes

    • @LucidPhoton
      @LucidPhoton 2 роки тому +2

      @@Eggplantss yes despite the fact he got angry over a minor detail in teaser trailer by a movie studio known for over animating their shit.

    • @LucidPhoton
      @LucidPhoton 2 роки тому +1

      @@spase667 in a movie like Lion King 2019 where there's questionable choices and a lack of production and creativity? Yes.
      In a trailer where his he focuses on a 5 sec long scene for a time longer than the whole trailer itself? No

    • @spase667
      @spase667 2 роки тому

      @@LucidPhoton It's content, baybee *rubs fingers together suggestively*

  • @Oniqueen
    @Oniqueen 2 роки тому +78

    I assume, because Nintendo apparently has Illumination's balls in a vice over this movie, that the mouth sync is off because it needs to focus on Japanese voice sync over the English dub.

    • @hi_-fc7fo
      @hi_-fc7fo 2 роки тому +70

      Or it's just audio spliced together for a trailer? it happens a lot in trailers, audio from different takes to fit the vibe of the trailer instead of the actual film.

    • @SpellcasterMedia
      @SpellcasterMedia 2 роки тому +3

      @@hi_-fc7fo Yup, that's probably the case. I mentioned it in my comment on the last video. The audio that was used to animate that scene probably isn't even the one they used in the trailer.

    • @All4Tanuki
      @All4Tanuki 2 роки тому +3

      PART TIME

    • @alan_galan
      @alan_galan 2 роки тому +7

      That is absolutely not the case. Not only was this movie written by Americans, it’s also targeting the US market. This movie will likely do well in Japan, but won’t come close to the success it’ll have in the West and the producers are well aware of this.

    • @calvinospina7307
      @calvinospina7307 2 роки тому +1

      Mario's original voice was a guy with a Brooklyn accent which it appears they were going for, you slightly hear the accent towards the end, Mario's origin story is he's a plumber from brooklyn, the stereotypical high-pitched fake Italian accent came later but for video game sound effects, not to have dialogue with it, that voice would be intolerable and unnecessary for a movie. You can tell they're trying to truly stick to their roots, like actual source material to reach most Boomer fans, but they're probably going to change the story from him being from Brooklyn to him being from Metro city which is a city like New York in the Mario universe, thus the reasoning they are bringing back his original Brooklyn accent.

  • @TheHaremReviewer
    @TheHaremReviewer 2 роки тому +79

    I agree with him that Bowser is over animated but that doesnt necessarily make it bad. This is the Illumination Mario Movie with Chris Pratt as Mario, Jack Black as Bowser, Seth Rogen as Donkey Kong and so much many others. This is such a stupid idea so the animation might as well be over the top and goofy as well.

    • @biggusdickus1689
      @biggusdickus1689 2 роки тому +1

      But why light it like it's super epic and dramatic as if they were taking it really seriously? It's somewhat at odds with itself

    • @canalsincontenido
      @canalsincontenido 2 роки тому +1

      It wasn't an argument that the movie is bad because of this. It's just a complain about a single shot that bothered him in real time.

    • @biggusdickus1689
      @biggusdickus1689 2 роки тому

      @@canalsincontenido People are bored and sad and would rather be toxic towards their own kind then analyze that.

    • @Abomdosnow
      @Abomdosnow 2 роки тому

      @@biggusdickus1689 It’s the climax of the movie. Why would they light the entire movie the same way no matter what?

    • @biggusdickus1689
      @biggusdickus1689 2 роки тому

      @@Abomdosnow The movie isn't even out yet, why would you assume the dramatic lighting is only in the climax? It's clearly a dramatic scene and imo Bowser's movements don't match the tone of the moment. I don't care if people like the movie I'm just agreeing with YMS that the way they chose to animate that sequence was bizzare and looked wrong.

  • @konsuno8143
    @konsuno8143 2 роки тому +4

    this whole situation is just annoying bc it was never meant to be a huge criticism but he cant articulate his point without it seeming like hes exaggerating it

  • @kuromyou7969
    @kuromyou7969 2 роки тому +18

    Tbh I didn't notice the Browser animation thing until he pointed it out. I can see why it bothered him even if it doesn't particularly bother me.

  • @foofielocou8052
    @foofielocou8052 2 роки тому +12

    the issue i have with the "over animated" argument is that, its obviously a chosen animation style, its not objectively bad its just different, but YMS makes it sound like over animation is a bad thing period, when its really not, and even then, this isn't really all that "overly animated" as YMS makes it seem me thinks.
    Limited animation is also just an animation style, take for example Kid Cosmic, Spiderverse or some characters in Wreck it Ralph which intentionally have either their movements or fps limited to better fit the atmosphere, same goes for "overly animating" its not inherently bad, its just a matter of taste, and if you dislike that its ok, its just that people want you to understand a bit of animation before objectively criticizing it

  • @anarchohelenism
    @anarchohelenism 2 роки тому +28

    Blind fanboyism and blind cynicism are opposite ends of the spectrum, and Adum falls into the latter.

  • @ThatTonnatoTenrec
    @ThatTonnatoTenrec 2 роки тому +9

    Claiming that a corporation might be paying people to make positive comments or dislike negative ones doesn't seem like a 'Didn't like a trailer' type thing, at all on something that clearly to a large extent has a positive reaction and not a negative one.

  • @michaelwerkov3438
    @michaelwerkov3438 2 роки тому +33

    Adam didn't at all respond to the joke about browser's neurological disorder and that made me sad

  • @dunce8295
    @dunce8295 2 роки тому +64

    The amount of people I saw saying stuff like "channels like yms have ruined film criticism forever" was insane. They have this preconception of adam as this "annoying arthouse film-bro" that just clouds their judgment of everything.

    • @inefffable
      @inefffable 2 роки тому +3

      I'm embarrassed for them

    • @YMSHighlights
      @YMSHighlights  2 роки тому +33

      I always find "x has ruined film criticism" to be the goofiest thing. Even when it's someone I dislike, like Cinema Sins. Like, "nitpicking" is going to happen. It's unavoidable. Even if someone like Cinema Sins never existed it wouldn't matter, people would still be making these observations.

    • @ghostshrimp5006
      @ghostshrimp5006 2 роки тому +9

      Because people forget that you can agree on one thing and disagree on something else.
      We can’t have have some nuance in this modern age

    • @stingerredshock3418
      @stingerredshock3418 2 роки тому +8

      @@YMSHighlights Twitter and Reddit want film criticism to have double standards. Things they like shouldn’t be criticized for any reason, but they are happy to invent whatever thing to complain about when it’s something they don’t like.
      When people like Adum/IHE/Mauler/E;R roll up with principles that they apply to both things they like/don’t like, Twitter/Reddit go nuts because what they like can be attacked by the principle. Therefore people with principles “ruin” things.

    • @boobysr
      @boobysr 2 роки тому +4

      it's funny because he's usually pretty objective. like if he doesn't like a movie he'll still acknowledge it could be someone else's thing and recommend it

  • @IndagoCo
    @IndagoCo 2 роки тому +11

    There's probably an animator in the studio that felt the same way but the boss was like "WE GOT A DEADLINE"

  • @OblivionFalls
    @OblivionFalls Рік тому +1

    3:03 They actually DID use a different voice take in the movie compared to what was in the trailer, which explains why the movement feels out of place. Adam was spot on.

  • @sonicbelmont300
    @sonicbelmont300 2 роки тому +11

    People will jump on anyone for going against the popular consensus, but I will admit it does feel frustrating when Adum seems unsatisfied with almost anything put in front of him. I don't think he's lying or being dishonest just for the sake of disagreement, but I understand someone finding his opinions on something like this annoying or off-putting. Especially when his opinions shared on stream have a tendency of being framed as "Its ok if you disagree with me but I'm the one who's right" whether he means to or not.

  • @muscacholi
    @muscacholi 2 роки тому +19

    Yeah 99% of the drama that you mentioned that people were mad about I wasn't even aware of because I'm not on Twitter. I still give no shits about the drama or Twitter, I'm just here for YMS content.

  • @9x_Squared
    @9x_Squared 2 роки тому +2

    i think you are ignoring how excited he is finding a super star and what it means for him as a power hungry person

  • @lucky_is3
    @lucky_is3 2 роки тому +4

    i suppose your taste in animation is just really lame because having more bouncy, expressive animation is VERY appropriate for a movie about MARIO, and especially for a character voiced by a charismatic actor like jack black
    but hey that's just me i suppose

  • @prageruwu69
    @prageruwu69 2 роки тому +11

    im not sure if i agree with yms on the animation but the way some people on twitter reacted to his opinion was kinda dumb

  • @retinas2001
    @retinas2001 2 роки тому +4

    Movie Bowser strikes more poses per minute than Mako from Kill La Kill

  • @MBThomas
    @MBThomas 2 роки тому +10

    Adam is a clown. He'll always be a clown and because he has his loyal bootlicking fanbase, he'll never admit when he's overreacting or wrong.

  • @Primpy
    @Primpy 2 роки тому +9

    Well deserved backlash. I love YMS but this take felt so forced, like trying to squeeze every little bad thing out of a good trailer and amplifying it by 10.

  • @brandywhatagoodwifeyouwouldbe
    @brandywhatagoodwifeyouwouldbe 2 роки тому +3

    Animation is a different medium that can range from subtle to exaggerated. Both ends of the spectrum are good and have their place in animation. Bowser is an out-there villain who is very giddy in the moment, so it makes sense for him to act in a more frenetic and excited fashion. I can't see how that makes him "over-animated", just take the L and stop blaming Twitter for everything.

  • @The_Markade
    @The_Markade 2 роки тому +2

    I feel that in the 'over animated part' it's also a bad line reading. It should be "NOW who's gonna stop me?" instead of "now WHO'S gonna stop me?"

  • @sparkarez
    @sparkarez 2 роки тому +17

    Dude, it’s like he’s not even listening to Bowser speak. Bowser clearly sounds excited and pumped up, which is why he’s shaking with excitement. I just can’t see where he’s coming from

    • @joshwilliams3689
      @joshwilliams3689 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, another person that sees it this way. He's excited because he's obtained what he believes is ultimate power so he's kinda giddy about it. I hardly see anyone taking that into consideration but this whole debacle on this use of "over animation" is kinda ridiculous. It really isn't a big deal in my opinion. To be honest, and I am a fan of YMS but I don't see anyone outside of YMS circles talking about this. Not to say that that makes Adam a bad guy here but I've not seen anyone else criticize this at all from any other circles. Probably cause it's just that insignificant.

  • @ayrahn7893
    @ayrahn7893 2 роки тому +53

    Whether someone else enjoys the same thing I do ultimately means nothing to me, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it really did seem like Adum was legit grasping for something to nitpick with the “overly animated” thing.

    • @Zerklass
      @Zerklass 2 роки тому +2

      I disagree, it wasn't a good shot.

    • @whatastandupguy3050
      @whatastandupguy3050 2 роки тому +2

      No, I know what he means completely. It’s not a big deal obviously and he’s not making it out to be, it’s just one shot really, but people lambasted him like he doesn’t know anything about animation, which is funny lol

    • @ayrahn7893
      @ayrahn7893 2 роки тому +2

      @@whatastandupguy3050 Word. I’ve disagreed with him in the past and definitely will again in the future (no big deal), but the fact anyone had the audacity of accusing him of liking The Lion King 2019…like tell me you know NOTHING about Adum without telling me you know nothing about Adum…
      Regardless of how Adum feels about the Mario movie, he has an obvious love for animation, and anyone who actually watches his content would know better.

  • @biddleeewho4181
    @biddleeewho4181 2 роки тому +18

    It's still a terrible take.
    "This illumination movie based on a children's video game made for children is overanimated." ESPECIALLY when the shot isn't even THAT "overanimated," is a horrendous take. I respect YMS, but this was a completely bullshit take.

  • @MayorMcC666
    @MayorMcC666 2 роки тому +31

    your original analysis reminded me of how the nostalgia critic describes things when he already knows he doesn't like them.

  • @kohtahirano4546
    @kohtahirano4546 2 роки тому +20

    This is the pissiest Adam has ever been in a while where he faced being called out online.

  • @kars7181
    @kars7181 2 роки тому +9

    Twitter will move on to something else to be recreationally mad about in a day or two

  • @justchan2443
    @justchan2443 2 роки тому +13

    I will still watch YMS but I still think this is a L take. I don't see anything wrong with this scene.

  • @thisisawsome34253212
    @thisisawsome34253212 2 роки тому +8

    Has he not noticed the dislikes on the UA-cam video or the comments on it?

    • @shineon9715
      @shineon9715 2 роки тому +1

      What's the like/dislike ratio on the original video?

  • @adammaher403
    @adammaher403 2 роки тому +7

    The phrase "responds to the trailer reaction's backlash" is making me consider just ending it already

  • @zardthedragon1896
    @zardthedragon1896 2 роки тому +19

    This puts dissecting a trailer to a whole nother level

  • @whatahero2337
    @whatahero2337 2 роки тому +2

    If you guys look at who's directing this, it's two people. The first, Aaron Horvath, has the experience of directing only a single film before this, "Teen Titans Go: To the Movie". The second director, Michael Jelenic, has no directing experience in films prior to this one, and the reason these two are working together, is because Jelenic was the writer of the Teen Titans Go movie. Why Nintendo wanted these two directors to direct their most iconic character's first animated theatrical debut is beyond me. Is the CEO of Nintendo just the biggest stan of the Teen Titans Go franchise that he just HAD to have these two working on this? That's the only way I can logically figure out how these two people were put among candidate directors to be asked, and then, after reviewal, chose the one's with almost no directorial experience.

  • @lewiswilliams3347
    @lewiswilliams3347 2 роки тому +5

    I mean when someone is in a position where they are excited they express their emotions all at once. I think that's why it works here

  • @vraisairs9201
    @vraisairs9201 2 роки тому +7

    This matters more to Adam than the “legitimately mad” guy who started this

  • @Waltman13
    @Waltman13 2 роки тому +7

    While I do think the shot itself has some gestures that go by too quickly, it's not a bad shot. Like Adam said, this IS a trailer for a movie that's still in production, so it'll likely change in the final film.

  • @heavenhammer1
    @heavenhammer1 2 роки тому +11

    Agreed. It is jarring,and I also know what you mean that some of the "weightiness" of the menace of Bowser is kind of gone with that expression. It is OVERLY expressive. Notice how when he says that line his eyes move from left to right as well,even though he is the only one there. It is jarring, compared to that bad- ass entrance not 5 seconds ago.

  • @cloudshines812
    @cloudshines812 2 роки тому +10

    I find it hysterical how much the Internet and my friends have either been treating the Mario movie trailer like its either the return of Jesus… or its the worst thing since the first Sonic movie trailer.
    Meanwhile there’s me where I’m just saying that this movie will just… exist. Nothing more… nothing less

    • @Moowe291
      @Moowe291 2 роки тому +1

      It's even more hysterical being that the movie isn't out yet. People STILL haven't realized that the trailer isn't enough to judge the entire movie. EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this planet was dead set on Sonic's movie being a failure, and they were TOTALLY wrong. It wasn't perfect, I heard it's bad, but a complete failure? NOPE. If they're making a 3rd, it's not a failure.

    • @kudolemon9888
      @kudolemon9888 2 роки тому

      @@Moowe291 you're talking about retards

  • @ThatsCoolJoshua
    @ThatsCoolJoshua 2 роки тому +24

    People are wild. I don’t always agree with YMS’s points but I appreciate his perspective and so when I don’t agree it’s easy to keep going on with my life lol

    • @ClarifyEht
      @ClarifyEht 2 роки тому +2

      Right?? I don’t know why they’re SO mad 😂 it’s weird

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 2 роки тому +6

      Adum seems to have an issue himself with differing opinions considering he called some with positive opinions ''bots''

  • @kevinandrewsphoto
    @kevinandrewsphoto 2 роки тому +4

    I wonder if Adum ever thought he would spend his thirties critiquing Bowsers erratic cartoon animations, and a Lion King remake.

  • @VeryDryBones
    @VeryDryBones 2 роки тому +8

    I still don't see the issue with the shots because he acts just like Bowser to me. but man those people sound insane on Twitter

  • @x511100x
    @x511100x 2 роки тому +75

    Bowser's expressions remind me of that TikTok trend where people try to act like cartoons when they talk. It's definitely possible to add too many movements to a string of expressions

    • @KevintheKing1
      @KevintheKing1 2 роки тому +28

      But bowser is a cartoon character

    • @RakoonCD
      @RakoonCD 2 роки тому

      Like when Veronica said the same thing about encanto.

    • @x511100x
      @x511100x 2 роки тому +4

      @@KevintheKing1 Hotel Transylvania is a cartoon and yet the movements of the characters are still way too cartoonish in a way that makes it unpleasant to look at to me

    • @vincenttapia2037
      @vincenttapia2037 2 роки тому

      @@KevintheKing1 Bowser doing his evil laugh like he always does is better body movement because he is clearly heavy and have weight. Bowser should of just hands around the star then enter evil laugh.
      Also, yeah, I know Jack Black is cartoon expressive, but yeah to animate.

    • @drew1080
      @drew1080 2 роки тому +10

      So a cartoon character’s movement reminds you of how real life people try to move like cartoons? Lmao What are these takes?

  • @femalesainshi3909
    @femalesainshi3909 2 роки тому +15

    adum overanalyzes things too much sometimes

  • @sunshinenluv
    @sunshinenluv 2 роки тому +9

    Isn't it just silly how Adum often states his opinions as facts, when it clearly is something he means to say as his preference?

    • @Bone237
      @Bone237 2 роки тому +1

      Stating your opinion as fact would be saying "this is objectively bad and you're wrong for thinking otherwise." He just said it was awful and overanimated, it's his opinion. He didn't state it as fact, he stated his opinion.

  • @GarciaXVLegend_04
    @GarciaXVLegend_04 2 роки тому +4

    "Over-Animated"? Twitter aside, I NEVER heard that type of Criticism before... I just simply find that weird. "Over-Animated" like that's a weird Criticism coming from a guy still learning how to Critique/Review. That's New to me, really new to me.

  • @tlegeorge
    @tlegeorge 2 роки тому +47

    That style of animation is very ‘Illumination’

  • @bobocop69420
    @bobocop69420 2 роки тому +27

    I'm mad at how people couldn't understand what Adam meant about Bowser's overly kinetic animation; it's snappy and jerky like half of Illumination does. It doesn't NEED such over the top movements and it makes it look kind of cheap and tacky.
    I feel like I'm going to dissociate from reality with the amount of love people are pouring on this trailer.

    • @ghostshrimp5006
      @ghostshrimp5006 2 роки тому +5

      The trailer isn’t bad on its own, Chris Pratt’s voice and illuminations animation choice that are the most standout things to critique

  • @Connorthecatsdad
    @Connorthecatsdad 2 роки тому +37

    This demonstrates a really interesting contrast in Twitter versus UA-cam culture, and it's interesting that Adam said he found out most of his audience wasn't on twitter. I, for instance, am not, and the sort of reactionary brigadiering that seems to happen on Twitter doesn't seem to happen as much on UA-cam because there's more form and more incentive for long form media and communication in comments. When you aren't restricted in how much you can say, you don't have to be sensational to be heard
    It's also worth noting that Twitter was developed by some of the scummies scumbags in silicon valley, and UA-cam was created as a high school project by a couple of stoners in their garage

    • @MasterMemo
      @MasterMemo 2 роки тому +7

      Let's be real, UA-cam culture is exactly as reactionary as Twitter, it's just a little more echo chambery. YMS's audience is either going to like his content or is hate watching. If it gets to Twitter there's no context. UA-cam does that too, but it's a little better at pretending that there is context.
      That said, Adam's critique wasn't anything crazy, ppl gotta relax. But Twitter and UA-cam aren't that different, you just fine with the areas you're seeing.

    • @kirbyhatesincels917
      @kirbyhatesincels917 2 роки тому +2

      I think YT has a much worse climate, honestly. Though, it depends what part you're on. What I mostly gather from Twitter are funny posts and people going after tweets that are just dumb as fuck, then shutting them down like a debate. There's a lot of spaces on YT that are toxic and have deluded followers. Plus, the videos that YT will just let on its platform is disgraceful.

  • @petewerehere
    @petewerehere 2 роки тому +10

    An actor can ham it up. Animators can ham it up, too.

  • @dracocrusher
    @dracocrusher 2 роки тому +6

    Ehh, I think it's a bit of a nitpick, but they could have definitely key posed that shot better. Instead of being like "Look left clutch hands -> look right move arms -> look center while shaking arms -> look up with hands down in a claw pose" I'd want it to be like "(Now Who's) head down hands up in fists -> (Gonna stop me!) Head up in evil smile, hands down in clawed iconic bowser pose" Like the same end point, but instead of bouncing back and forth so much it's more like he builds up then does the end pose by winding up in the sort-of opposite position, right? I think something like that would make it feel way more weighty and impactful overall.

  • @galenplatt398
    @galenplatt398 2 роки тому +37

    I was just confused
    Like I saw the trailers for Pinocchio 2022 and the fox had very not subtle animations and he loved that
    Whatever who fucking cares at the end of the day

    • @misirtere9836
      @misirtere9836 2 роки тому +4

      The fox is also a fox and not a giant turtle man.
      The turtle man should have much heftier movements. You know, like the ones he does in the rest of the trailer.

    • @finngswan3732
      @finngswan3732 2 роки тому

      @@misirtere9836 exactly. It feels like a different creature.

    • @galenplatt398
      @galenplatt398 2 роки тому +1

      @@misirtere9836 yeah but bowser is both serious and a goofball if you'd play the mario RPGs so it makes sense that his movements are over exaggerated at times
      Besides it's the exaggerated swagger of a turtle man

  • @edryu9688
    @edryu9688 2 роки тому +6

    A cartoon character moves like a cartoon.
    Adam: >:c

  • @TrenchMan93
    @TrenchMan93 2 роки тому +1

    Remember folks. Other peoples free speech is mean and must be attacked. Especially if its about a fucking animated movie lol.

  • @Thaumiel98
    @Thaumiel98 2 роки тому +4

    He doesn't deserve all this hate but that reaction was full of bad takes. The animation was fine and also the voice.

  • @BlueSeraph89
    @BlueSeraph89 2 роки тому +2

    Check out the way the Star’s spin ramps for a moment. I think the part that Adum is peeved by is literally sped up for this trailer.

    • @JediMasterBaiter
      @JediMasterBaiter 2 роки тому +1

      It looks like it's sped up for a brief moment, then goes back to normal. 4:24 Great observation! I'm betting this is the case.

  • @cavifax
    @cavifax 2 роки тому +4

    I effin hate "rule of thirds" and stuff like that, it's good to know and even practice them, for basic knowledge, but going ahead and setting "rules" over art is just limiting art expression, why would you want everything to be shot the same way?
    I think its really dumb, people like that should just stop pretending to be professional art critics just to win an argument if they're gonna get spooked seeing a Mr. Robot shot because it's not "centered" or "in the rule of thirds".

  • @JJ_Animation86
    @JJ_Animation86 2 роки тому +9

    I don't mind over animating to a character if it connects to their attitude and expression.
    Like with Bowser being excited to finally have the power star.
    If there's no connection, then the character is just doing that for the sake of attention which I'm personally not a fan of because it's treating the audience like babies trying to capture their eyes on who's moving the most.

    • @joshwilliams3689
      @joshwilliams3689 2 роки тому +4

      This is exactly how I looked at this, too. And it fits with Jack Black's acting as well. I feel like Adam did overexaggerate how "bad" he thought it was a little. I don't see why this is such a point of contention here. The whole movie isn't even out and there'll likely be a lot more things to critique and criticize when it does come out but right now, the trailer is all we have. This over animation conversation is getting a little blown out of proportion with how much this sort of thing isn't really "bad" nor is it that big a deal to begin with.

  • @Abomdosnow
    @Abomdosnow 2 роки тому +3

    I love Adum’s reviews but as a person he can be very abrasive which is a turn-off for some.

  • @nobodyburgen4594
    @nobodyburgen4594 2 роки тому +25

    Literally 1984

  • @frozenbean
    @frozenbean 2 роки тому +1

    It's funny, because I'm an animator and I agree with Adum. There is such a thing as overanimating. The Bowser sequence could have the keys plussed up a bit (and the lip sync looks off, too, but that could be because the mouth shapes are also off).

  • @yotomoe5953
    @yotomoe5953 2 роки тому +2

    I disagree that it looks bad or weird. It just feels sorta manic which I could kinda get for Bowser at a moment of excited triumph over getting what he wants. It's exaggerated, sure, but it's not so overly exaggerated that it takes me out. Scoot describes it as frenetic but like...I don't get any indication that it's not supposed to be a bit frenetic? Maybe I've just seen way WORSE examples of overanimation so this doesn't bug me as much but this just feels like exaggerated character acting.
    One thing I picked up on is that a lot of Bowser's mannerisms and posing seems to take inspiration from his voice actor, Jack Black so I guess you could say that they're just trying to make an exaggerated version of a man who's already pretty exaggerated.

  • @MulettoMotorsports
    @MulettoMotorsports 2 роки тому +22

    Never been this happy over not using Twitter.

  • @Darklordiban7
    @Darklordiban7 2 роки тому +15

    I'm wondering if they recorded lines, animated Bowser, then decided to re-record those lines. Instead of altering the animation to fit the new lines, they just increased the speed in that one part to try to sync it better.

    • @All4Tanuki
      @All4Tanuki 2 роки тому +7

      They do this all the time. Remember that bit in Sing where the mouse says "Singing Competition!" but his mouth only does 4 syllables in that time? Where he clearly said "contest" and then they... ADRd it? Is that even a thing in animation?

  • @ciriknockoff5738
    @ciriknockoff5738 2 роки тому +5

    It's hilarious to me that Scoot is less controversial than Adum. The power of being a kitty cat I guess😺

  • @dabatman5187
    @dabatman5187 2 роки тому +3

    I like really like Adum, and his content, but I still can’t see it. Honestly the more he seem to talk about it, the more it feels like a unnecessary nitpick. No problem with you expressing how you feel about the subject, but he spent (in my opinion) a large part of the reaction on it. When a minute would have been enough on the subject.
    I also find it odd how he said they may bot in the comments without even trying to comment and see himself to see if that’s the case.

  • @epicwaba6424
    @epicwaba6424 2 роки тому +2

    How many videos are we gonna get where Adum complains about Twitter weirdos before he just stops using it? I would have a long time ago in his position.

  • @thatguy6919
    @thatguy6919 2 роки тому +23

    Sure the animation looks overly bouncy, but they got Chris Pratt, HES SO COOL

    • @WhatisReal11
      @WhatisReal11 2 роки тому

      Bowser looks more feather light than stupid jurassic world raptors.

    • @JediMasterBaiter
      @JediMasterBaiter 2 роки тому

      He spent hours of his life stomping...
      ...
      KOOPAS...
      ...

  • @Tyto451
    @Tyto451 2 роки тому +2

    You should probably stop responding to negative criticism of your opinions on certain movies. I’m not saying they’re all being fair or that I’m particularly bothered by your opinion despite disagreeing with it entirely but making responses to everyone who understandably annoys you isn’t good for your mental health and only makes the detractors grow in number.

  • @ashburystreet
    @ashburystreet 2 роки тому +1

    I completely get Adum's point. He's moving too quickly, he looks bouncy and rubbery

  • @RealTardskii
    @RealTardskii 2 роки тому +7

    Twitter is a place that needs to exist so the people there don’t go anywhere else, defo don’t wanna meet them irl or just in general.

    • @danieldsantiagorodriguez4955
      @danieldsantiagorodriguez4955 2 роки тому +1

      I met someone who got their news and social media needs from Twitter. I think the app should be shot down, that guy heated up easily. It truely was like witnessing an intese twitter comment happen in real life.

    • @RealTardskii
      @RealTardskii 2 роки тому

      @@danieldsantiagorodriguez4955 understandable but they’ll migrate to other platforms instead of getting genuinely getting mad on menial things on Twitter then getting distracted cause someone said dream bad.