Loved your battery powered electric starter. That pin you didn't want to drop looked like a shear pin. My dad worked on saltwater outboard motors for a living. He was very good at it. Once a guy gave my dad a 25 HP outboard he found scuba diving. It was one big chunk of corrosion. Dad fixed that old motor up and I learned to water ski behind it. Back to the shear pin. Before I was born, my dad and his uncle went fishing in a river. They hit a submerged log and sheared the pin. No problem says dad, I have a spare shear pin in my tackle box. They cock the motor up, remove the carter pin, the nut and the prop. Uncle accidentally knocks all the parts overboard. Now the situation is much worse. Uncle says "I'll get them" He takes his shoes off and goes over the side. The river is about 5 feed deep and very muddy. He walks around on the river bottom and says, I found something, dad thinks it MIGHT be the prop. Uncle retrieves the carter pin, after walking around some more and "feeling" with his bare feet, he recovers the nut, the broken shear pin AND the prop. Dad reassembles the parts, cranks the motor and off they up upstream back to the boat launch. 💛
Whenever I see a Motocheez outboard vid I will now just shout "It's the impeller" :) My dad's old Zodiac had a 25hp Johnson on it. A lot of fun times in that little boat. My first experience of the ocean in fact.
Haha. Sweet! Small boats are always the most fun. I've had many big boats and the small ones with small outboards end up the cheapest and most reliable.
My dad has one of these marked "Evinrude Sportwin" light blue in his basement for well over 30 years. We call it grandpa because it's so old. Can remember it running only once in that time. Gonna order a new water pump and spark plugs for it because I need a boat and a motor, because needlefish season at the Baltic Sea is going on now and the big fishing boat has broken down and replacement parts are coming from the US. Wish me luck :)
I love outboard vids, I'm a big big fan of 'thatboatguy ' in Florida how he gets allsorts at auction and fixes them up then takes them all out for a rip... Maan Florida looks beautiful 😍
When you busted out the shop-vac, I was waiting for the Spaceballs clip “suck. Suck. Suck. Suck…” Great videos. I can’t wait for test run of the Rock Johnson.
My Dad always put Johnson motors on his boats because to him they were dependable and they always started first pull. In my experience, that wasn't always true but for him it was. 😅 He was really disappointed when he found out you could get Johnson's anymore.
Great little motors. Two things I noticed was that it was really dumb to pull the shift rod pin to drain the oil, the oil drain is a big flat head screw on the other side near the bottom. Also the water pumps are not self priming, they must be under water.
The drain is the right screw I took out. As far as I know. The shift pun has a long pun at the end, this didn't. I do realize now the pump must be totally under water....
Mr Cheez the food teaser at the end just makes me hungry and I'm fat enough, but keep up the good work always enjoy the repair video's need to feed my brain more then my stomach.
Yeah, cork is common in the engines they made back then. Bending it ever so slightly upwards helps as the needle valve can be stuck when it has stood around for a while.
I had one of them when I was a kid. I got it used from a rental fleet near my house, used it a long time on a 12' tin boat from Sears. It had like a shift point in it something I haven't seen before or since in an outboard.
@@dickjames5007 it may have just had a problem. But yeah, it seemed like it had an extra gear. It would kind of wind up a little right about at planing speed then lock up and scoot.
@@MotoCheez it might have been something slipping, it didn't feel like any kind of cavitation or ventilation I've ever come across. My 12ish year old brain just thought that's how it was supposed to be. I just thought I had a 2 speed outboard!! 🤣
To add more detail--the water intake is the 2 screened ribs below the exhaust outlet. The prop pushes water towards the screens. The little plate above the cavitation plate is for cooling water flow when in reverse gear. Nobody has ever explained why the 4 tiny intake ports are facing forward, tho...lol
@@guy48065 right. I believe the screen acts like a scoop to push water up into the pump from below. the intake ports face towards the bow to scoop water at high speed, or do you mean something else?
We talking about the water inlet for the impellor? It's designed to scoop the water as it's driving forward, reverse there isn't enough speed or force to stop the suction.
Another nice video cheesy! You did the right way of troubleshooting it from top to bottom. Did you check the sacrificial anode? If it fell off which they do it would explain all that corrosion. Without it the engine itself just falls apart. The old omc's are pretty good running engines. I had a 25 hp 82 that's still running today. I put the OMC on your boat and use the force as an anchor.🤣 There are two different sized transoms for every OMC motor.. cavitation plare should be underwater and should have the anode on it.
@@MotoCheez make sure there's good contact between the anode and the body of the motor. I used to take mine off every spring and sand it down toa bare metal
What kind of oil did you use for the lower unit? (Also, fixed the problem I had with it I commented about previously. Just had to get a new prop since it’s a pin drive. Thanks tons)
Hey I need some help! I can’t figure out how to find/replace the prop hub in this same motor. The engine runs fine but it’ll rev high and get no torque at certain RPMs
@@MotoCheez pretty positive, saw online that a bad hub equates to random high rpm’s and no torque. Had to run it super slow all the way back to the ramp or else it would lose all thrust
Sorta surprised you didn't order the stainless bolts on Amazon as well (Or are they just taking longer to get there from Amazon?). I got a few assortments of common sizes around.. Just used some of the metric ones on the Grill yesterday. and for anything else I order the specific sizes.
Like any old guy...prostate trouble ...hear the old yamaha's are the thing in Florida...check out that Boatguy on UA-cam...he tries to kill a YammerHaul and it just keeps running...Laterz MOTO
That Johnson commercial is hilarious 🤣
Adding the Rock to the commercial was perfect!
Loved your battery powered electric starter. That pin you didn't want to drop looked like a shear pin.
My dad worked on saltwater outboard motors for a living. He was very good at it. Once a guy gave my dad a 25 HP outboard he found scuba diving. It was one big chunk of corrosion. Dad fixed that old motor up and I learned to water ski behind it.
Back to the shear pin. Before I was born, my dad and his uncle went fishing in a river. They hit a submerged log and sheared the pin. No problem says dad, I have a spare shear pin in my tackle box. They cock the motor up, remove the carter pin, the nut and the prop. Uncle accidentally knocks all the parts overboard. Now the situation is much worse. Uncle says "I'll get them" He takes his shoes off and goes over the side. The river is about 5 feed deep and very muddy. He walks around on the river bottom and says, I found something, dad thinks it MIGHT be the prop.
Uncle retrieves the carter pin, after walking around some more and "feeling" with his bare feet, he recovers the nut, the broken shear pin AND the prop. Dad reassembles the parts, cranks the motor and off they up upstream back to the boat launch. 💛
Damn. Good story
Love it when those oldies fire right up after a little TLC applied to 'em. Good score.
The run FOREVER!
Whenever I see a Motocheez outboard vid I will now just shout "It's the impeller" :)
My dad's old Zodiac had a 25hp Johnson on it. A lot of fun times in that little boat. My first experience of the ocean in fact.
Haha. Sweet! Small boats are always the most fun. I've had many big boats and the small ones with small outboards end up the cheapest and most reliable.
My dad has one of these marked "Evinrude Sportwin" light blue in his basement for well over 30 years. We call it grandpa because it's so old. Can remember it running only once in that time. Gonna order a new water pump and spark plugs for it because I need a boat and a motor, because needlefish season at the Baltic Sea is going on now and the big fishing boat has broken down and replacement parts are coming from the US. Wish me luck :)
Good luck!
Outboard Engines are like Chainsaws, simple, but what a pain!
Truth
I love outboard vids, I'm a big big fan of 'thatboatguy ' in Florida how he gets allsorts at auction and fixes them up then takes them all out for a rip... Maan Florida looks beautiful 😍
I'll take one of these motors down to my place in FL
Thanks to you, I now have a new channel to obsess over.
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When you busted out the shop-vac, I was waiting for the Spaceballs clip “suck. Suck. Suck. Suck…”
Great videos. I can’t wait for test run of the Rock Johnson.
That would have been good!
That's quite the Johnson you got there, Cheesy. :^)
Why thank you!
My Dad always put Johnson motors on his boats because to him they were dependable and they always started first pull. In my experience, that wasn't always true but for him it was. 😅 He was really disappointed when he found out you could get Johnson's anymore.
Me and my Johnson are having a party later 🤪, I love it when a plan comes together.
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Great little motors. Two things I noticed was that it was really dumb to pull the shift rod pin to drain the oil, the oil drain is a big flat head screw on the other side near the bottom. Also the water pumps are not self priming, they must be under water.
The drain is the right screw I took out. As far as I know. The shift pun has a long pun at the end, this didn't. I do realize now the pump must be totally under water....
just got one Thanks for posting this video!
Love the bonus bat video.
awesome video!
Motor was pretty clean inside for an old girl…should go for a long time , nice job Moto. !
I had that same outboard when I was 15. Me and my Johnson 😀
Great little motor. Been running perfect.
Thank you for the video 👍
you are the motorboat engine whisperer. great job on getting it running!
🤣 thanks
It was great help
You crack me up. Keep going
Mr Cheez the food teaser at the end just makes me hungry and I'm fat enough, but keep up the good work always enjoy the repair video's need to feed my brain more then my stomach.
Haha me too!
Yeah, cork is common in the engines they made back then. Bending it ever so slightly upwards helps as the needle valve can be stuck when it has stood around for a while.
I had one of them when I was a kid. I got it used from a rental fleet near my house, used it a long time on a 12' tin boat from Sears. It had like a shift point in it something I haven't seen before or since in an outboard.
What do you mean shift point I have 71 evinrude 9.5 just super curious what you mean. Just to shift from f n r. Or kinda like an extra gear
@@dickjames5007 it may have just had a problem. But yeah, it seemed like it had an extra gear. It would kind of wind up a little right about at planing speed then lock up and scoot.
maybe the hub was slipping? or prop cavitating?
@@MotoCheez it might have been something slipping, it didn't feel like any kind of cavitation or ventilation I've ever come across. My 12ish year old brain just thought that's how it was supposed to be. I just thought I had a 2 speed outboard!! 🤣
i bet the hub was slipping on the prop i had a proontgat did that
Glad you got your old johnson working again... I'll have to try a new impeller in mine to see if it'll squirt harder
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The only person I know with a straight anti seize brush.
It's 20 years old too. I cut the bristles half way to make more rigid
😮 Cresent Hammer!!
Just checking in!:) Semper Fidelis
Bam!
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the intake is BELOW that metal plate. the plate is for reverse flow
To add more detail--the water intake is the 2 screened ribs below the exhaust outlet. The prop pushes water towards the screens.
The little plate above the cavitation plate is for cooling water flow when in reverse gear. Nobody has ever explained why the 4 tiny intake ports are facing forward, tho...lol
@@guy48065 right. I believe the screen acts like a scoop to push water up into the pump from below. the intake ports face towards the bow to scoop water at high speed, or do you mean something else?
We talking about the water inlet for the impellor? It's designed to scoop the water as it's driving forward, reverse there isn't enough speed or force to stop the suction.
Good goin MotoCheez boater😉
Another nice video cheesy! You did the right way of troubleshooting it from top to bottom. Did you check the sacrificial anode? If it fell off which they do it would explain all that corrosion. Without it the engine itself just falls apart. The old omc's are pretty good running engines. I had a 25 hp 82 that's still running today.
I put the OMC on your boat and use the force as an anchor.🤣 There are two different sized transoms for every OMC motor.. cavitation plare should be underwater and should have the anode on it.
It's still good. Must have been fresh water
@@MotoCheez make sure there's good contact between the anode and the body of the motor. I used to take mine off every spring and sand it down toa bare metal
Good idea.
Dam right lucked out not much skill
That was selecter cradle screw not oil fill
I'm giving you a "Like" for cresent hammer usage!
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they don't do the amazon vans where i'm at. i see them all the time but they use ups for where i live
I had a '76 Johnson 9.9 electric start on 14 ft. jon boat. You know how to fix everything.
Thanks! 😁 I try
That's how the pull start is made for that motor.....good find....sell the Force now....quick !! 🤣 9.9 is a dependable motor..
The Force runs great tho! 😁 We will see how the Johnson works on the lake when rest or parts get here
What kind of oil did you use for the lower unit? (Also, fixed the problem I had with it I commented about previously. Just had to get a new prop since it’s a pin drive. Thanks tons)
I bought the lower unit oil from walmart
The wife said thats one handsome johnson LOL Shes never said that to me haha! Great video man!
🤣😂😁👍
Dude, we recently fixed one up just like this. No idea the year but it's exactly the same.
How's it run?
@@MotoCheez Like a dream from what my folks say. I haven't been out on the boat yet with it on there.
A bat alone outside during the day is a bad sign...do not touch. Awesome 😎 👍 job on this . Did u change the plugs?
Yes, yes 😁
Do outboards have something in the carb to create cyphon to tank?
They have a fuel pump, vacuum operated
@@MotoCheezhmm I changed that and the filter. Hoping it's a collapsed line
Make sure your tank is vented and your connections are sealed tight
@@MotoCheez will do captain
when you use the drill to turn the engine over is it set to hammer drill or just normal? Thanks
Normal drill
Hey I need some help! I can’t figure out how to find/replace the prop hub in this same motor. The engine runs fine but it’ll rev high and get no torque at certain RPMs
Ebay was the only place I saw parts. You think the hub is slipping?
@@MotoCheez pretty positive, saw online that a bad hub equates to random high rpm’s and no torque. Had to run it super slow all the way back to the ramp or else it would lose all thrust
That's all part of the prop I thought. The hub protects the gearcase from breaking. Trying to remember what prop this gad.
I just looked on mine and it looks like that unit does not have a slip hub on the propeller, it's a pin
@@MotoCheez ah that helps a ton, how do I go about replacing it?
Sorta surprised you didn't order the stainless bolts on Amazon as well (Or are they just taking longer to get there from Amazon?). I got a few assortments of common sizes around.. Just used some of the metric ones on the Grill yesterday. and for anything else I order the specific sizes.
I did order them off Amazon.
@@MotoCheez Must just be taking longer than the water impeller. Just seemed weird. Saw you with the impeller and then no new bolts.
I ordered impeller when I started on the motor. Couldn't find the right size on Amazon either.
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Its alive !
The 1 dislike is "The Rock" saying O c'om people lol
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Change carb and port get 15hp easy
Putting the rubber on the shaft and lubricant on the tip of your jonson
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I have one...😎
How's it work for you?
@@MotoCheez it's stopped..😞
Aww. That stinks! That's 3
Here's johnny 😁
Good one!
Cheez too bad you didn't have that outboard about 10 years ago I could have had ya nice score of parts
Damn!
She’s pissin now!
She's a pisser!
@@MotoCheez Well isn't a good Johnson always a Pisser? As long as it ain't leaky. Nobody likes a leaky Johnson.
Everyone deserves a Johnson...
Ya gotta wonder if that commercial accidentally kicked off using the word "Johnson" for that particular part of the body.
I wonder that too
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There's something deeply wrong about the phrase "You, your kids and your Johnson."
As others have said, I believe this is where the phrase "Johnson" referring to a body part became a thing. 😂
The impeller is in the shaft
Yes, on lower unit input shaft
Like any old guy...prostate trouble ...hear the old yamaha's are the thing in Florida...check out that Boatguy on UA-cam...he tries to kill a YammerHaul and it just keeps running...Laterz MOTO
Yes I've heard the Yamahas are the best
Maybe
4th!
A money maker since forever. A video on how to improve your Johnson 😂
Those spindle starters are fun to repair, not
You can still get the plastic bendix from eBay new old stock
Sportwin has no electric starter available
Sportwin?
Cheese quit yankin on your Johnson! There's a you tube music video you gotta see about sitting in the middle of the lake yankin on a Johnson!
I can't help myself 😂🤣😆
1st!
2nd!
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You ever heard of OIL
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Finally a face reveal… even if it was in a bucket of oil …lol
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@@MotoCheez you need not worry about me hunting you down I’m in Ireland !!
Haha. 👋👋👋👋
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Face reveal.
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Went from motocheez to botocheez
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