Just as production boards have made a lot of progress, the level of component development by third-party parts companies seems to be huge recently. The NEWBEE 4GS Kit we tested in this video was the best-performing gear drive compared to the drive system itself only. If you are planning a DIY build using mountain board trucks and gear drives, I think 4GS is the best option now. (5:20 Bearing Exterior diameter 23 mm => 28 mm) 완제품 보드들이 많은 발전을 한것과 같이, 최근 서드파티 부품회사들의 부품개발수준도 엄청난것 같습니다. 이번 비디오에서 테스트해본 NEWBEE의 4GS Kit는 드라이브시스템 자체로만 비교해봤을때 가장 좋은 퍼포먼스의 기어드라이브였습니다. 마운틴보드트럭과 기어드라이브를 사용한 DIY빌드를 계획하신다면 4GS는 가장 좋은 옵션이지 않을까 생각됩니다. (5:20 베어링 바깥지름 23mm => 28mm)
⚡ *More gear drives!* ⚡ The more the better, increases competition and choice 🤙🏼 Nice new text style man. You know it's game time when the music starts! Nice clean design.
You made the same comment as my sister said.lol :) Your comments always seem to know exactly what I want to show and say~ That's why I love your comments HaHa~ Thank you brother!
I always have this feeling that you keep on giving us little presents . thank you for the built. I would love to know how these stack up to the meepo gear drives . Also it would be cool if you make a comparesment between these current drives , the jumpdrives and the most common , the boardnamic drives,
Thank you for saying that ~ And everything is different from the gear drive of the meepo except it has four gears. (The combination way of the gear box and motor, the bearing mounting method of the gear, the cutting shape of the gear, etc) And if I have a chance, I'll try :)
I really like the final look of this re-build and the motor sounds nice for a ride where it's not too noisy but enough to warn pedestrians. I'd like to try gear drives someday
I really like the look of the shorter boards and big wheels like this and the Lacroix. Super cool and hope you enjoy using it 😊 the weather in the UK is terrible at the moment.
This board looks like fancy crossover in urban environment. Meant to ride off-road but to cool too get dirty:) You are piling up on board already. If it is your flat you live in, it is starting to look like garage with carpet. Nice;)
@@fujio001maintenance is very easy. I just opened mine recently to clean and add new grease. There's a good video here: ua-cam.com/video/3s0nzvxzgZw/v-deo.html
Just FYI regarding Newbees hubs, they need 22.0mm bearing spacers. 22.2mm spacers will need to be sanded down in order for the outer bearing races to make contact with the wheel. I also used Loctite 609 between the bearings and hubs to prevent the outer races from spinning since the hubs are machined with loose tolerance for easy bearing install.
I'm happy that your testing the good stuff and we can decide if it works for us, or not... Very good review as always 👍 This will now be exciting which brand will offer this Geardrive in a complete board. After Apex now offers an outstanding, Acedeck also offers a quiet and Meepo now follows (only individually purchasable)... Where is the journey going? Is the belt drive still up to date?
@@MarkRockShock Actually the gear drive Meepo are offering now looks very inspired by the Newbee drive. Also the Exway too. Gear drives have been around for a while now but were mostly used by DIYers. Now they are being adopted by the mass-market manufacturers.
i think gear drive is ovehyped. 20mm belt is much lighter, have customizable gear ratio, have less noise and cheaper(almost all components can be 3d printed)
I also agree with you to a certain extent. However, in the case of this 4GS, there was no significant difference in weight and the drive noise was smaller than that of a belt drive. Each drive has its pros and cons, but what I felt the most from the review is that there are more choices to experience these new technologies on the Esk8. And I think it could be much more satisfying for someone~ Thank you for watching and for your comment too :)
@@ryanschulz9893 There's already way more usage of gear drives than direct drives. They have already been around for a while now but have mostly been used on higher end boards (e.g. Kaly, Bioboards, etc.) and in the DIY community. It's just that you're now starting to see the mass-market manufacturers like Meepo, Exway, Acedeck, and others adopting them.
Those wheels are from Newbee, check the link. www.newbee.store/?spm=..index.header_1.1&spm_prev=..product_dc8af9df-a623-4023-a42d-e9dd669940d4.header_1.1
a metal spur gear....the using what is likely Delrin nylon meshing gears.....that is not going to have a long life span.....even if the gears were glass filled nylon which is much stranger and hard wearing.....how do you see these lasting wear wise...metal against plastic is not a good competition for loaded gears?!?!?
I felt the same way as you when I was not familiar with the material of POM. However, after learning that it is used as a gear material for many electric car companies, I looked for more knowledge about it. Gear made of POM material reduces noise generation and has a lower friction coefficient than metal gear, so there is less heat generation. This eliminates the need to use many lubricants. In terms of durability, it can be said that it has been proven as much as it is used in cars. (They also placed metal and POM gears together.) Thanks~
This design is not like others. A lot of load is spread through the secondary gears. They did a lot of testing including jumping, etc. However of course time will tell. After 3000 km on one set I opened it up and everything looks fantastic. We'll see.
@@KAMiJUINs Hi there, I am very familiar with POM which is nylon as I am an automotive engineer, normal POM is soft as you know from experience of nylon products, ergo this is not normal nylon and is most likely Delrin a very hard form of nylon. Note nylon is highly suseptable to moisture absorbtion (hydroscopic)and thus swelling Delrin being a moderate exception to this rule. Delrin is used more on loading gears, such as light weight mechanisms an example being runners on sliding doors or gearing on moving doors on low duty cycle machinery. POM is widely used on geared system but only generally in things like motorised window winders and other relatively low abuse and low duty cycle parts, a classic example of POM is the toothed gear on a Scalextric ar or RC car, but the difference is they dont pull around 75kg over rough terrain, lets hope they do last buddy would be good if they do....but i have my reservations....fingers crossed
@@AdrianCho The issue is less about load, although this does play a significant factor in it, it is about two fundamental things, material hardness and the abrasion of metal against plastic, as i pointed out hopefully they are delrin, the next is torque inputs, the constant shift of load and torque combined slowly fatigues plastics, you cannot tell by looking, now jumping though it may seem to have bearing is less influential most shock is absorbed by the tyres and wheel, a moderate amount is transferred to the teeth in the drive train, but, despite having done 3000km which in actual fact is very low milage the reality jumping would have constituted only a tiny % of that ride time, and if most was then done on none aggressive terrain like rocky trails etc then loads will have been low to moderate, as far a wear you will be barely able to tell it an certainly not by looking only by measuring changes in back lash, as far a fatigue zero chance of observing it, and this is the issue, once it reaches it fatigue yield duty cycle it will give no warning and simply shear teeth.....however all this being said, if the riding one wishes to do is mainly street and smooth paths then yeah it certainly is a viable option. just seem odd to use plastic when the very same gear would readily be available in metal.
Just as production boards have made a lot of progress, the level of component development by third-party parts companies seems to be huge recently. The NEWBEE 4GS Kit we tested in this video was the best-performing gear drive compared to the drive system itself only. If you are planning a DIY build using mountain board trucks and gear drives, I think 4GS is the best option now. (5:20 Bearing Exterior diameter 23 mm => 28 mm)
완제품 보드들이 많은 발전을 한것과 같이, 최근 서드파티 부품회사들의 부품개발수준도 엄청난것 같습니다. 이번 비디오에서 테스트해본 NEWBEE의 4GS Kit는 드라이브시스템 자체로만 비교해봤을때 가장 좋은 퍼포먼스의 기어드라이브였습니다. 마운틴보드트럭과 기어드라이브를 사용한 DIY빌드를 계획하신다면 4GS는 가장 좋은 옵션이지 않을까 생각됩니다. (5:20 베어링 바깥지름 23mm => 28mm)
I like that "footstep v2" and I'm glad to see this custom board get some more love. It's one of my fav's from you.
Thank you so~ much :)
⚡ *More gear drives!* ⚡
The more the better, increases competition and choice 🤙🏼
Nice new text style man. You know it's game time when the music starts! Nice clean design.
You made the same comment as my sister said.lol :) Your comments always seem to know exactly what I want to show and say~
That's why I love your comments HaHa~ Thank you brother!
@@KAMiJUINs I see you brova! I'm just glad I get to see at least some of your vision 🤙🏼🤙🏼
I always have this feeling that you keep on giving us little presents . thank you for the built. I would love to know how these stack up to the meepo gear drives . Also it would be cool if you make a comparesment between these current drives , the jumpdrives and the most common , the boardnamic drives,
Thank you for saying that ~ And everything is different from the gear drive of the meepo except it has four gears. (The combination way of the gear box and motor, the bearing mounting method of the gear, the cutting shape of the gear, etc) And if I have a chance, I'll try :)
Parabéns! que equipamento incrível....Tudo ficou lindo..
Obrigado!
I really like the final look of this re-build and the motor sounds nice for a ride where it's not too noisy but enough to warn pedestrians. I'd like to try gear drives someday
Yeah, It was~ And I hope you get the Gear Drive Experience too :)
I really like the look of the shorter boards and big wheels like this and the Lacroix. Super cool and hope you enjoy using it 😊 the weather in the UK is terrible at the moment.
Thank you for watching and saying that~ :)
This board looks like fancy crossover in urban environment. Meant to ride off-road but to cool too get dirty:)
You are piling up on board already. If it is your flat you live in, it is starting to look like garage with carpet. Nice;)
HAHA :) Right !!! Thank you for watching ~
It really amazes me how quiet these drives are. I now have a second set on order
Yeah, just like you said~ This was definitely awesome :)
Looking to hear about the long term durability of the system and the process of replacing internal parts.
@@fujio001maintenance is very easy. I just opened mine recently to clean and add new grease. There's a good video here: ua-cam.com/video/3s0nzvxzgZw/v-deo.html
these look amazing! you make it look so easy! Love the video and how it all turned out! NewBee makes some incredible gear!
You already know that it only looks like that on video lol :) You know I'm always grateful, right? ~
@@KAMiJUINs 😂 well you do an amazing job again my brother!
정말 기어드라이브 작동 소리에 깜짝놀랐습니다;; 대박이네요!!
까미 너무 귀엽습니다ㅋㅋ
오랫만이세요~ 네 까미는 생긴것만 귀엽습니다 ㅋ :)
these might be my favorite wheels so far🦾
yeah, it looks so cool~
기어드라이브 군더더기 없는 디자인이라 이쁘네요!@ 거기에 조용하다니 잘 만든 제품같아요!! 영상 잘 봤습니다!!
네 만족스러운 제품이였습니다~ 시청감사합니다!!!
Just FYI regarding Newbees hubs, they need 22.0mm bearing spacers. 22.2mm spacers will need to be sanded down in order for the outer bearing races to make contact with the wheel. I also used Loctite 609 between the bearings and hubs to prevent the outer races from spinning since the hubs are machined with loose tolerance for easy bearing install.
Thank you for the good information~
it's soo beautiful, i cant😩🖤
I'm happy that your testing the good stuff and we can decide if it works for us, or not...
Very good review as always 👍
This will now be exciting which brand will offer this Geardrive in a complete board.
After Apex now offers an outstanding, Acedeck also offers a quiet and Meepo now follows (only individually purchasable)... Where is the journey going? Is the belt drive still up to date?
Oooops - supplementary: I did not mean Meepo (but also offer one in ultra), but Exway in Atlas pro - sorry
Thank you for watching my video too~ And maybe another new technology will be released? :)
@@KAMiJUINs the next step is shown in "back to the future" -movie 😉😂
@@MarkRockShock Actually the gear drive Meepo are offering now looks very inspired by the Newbee drive. Also the Exway too. Gear drives have been around for a while now but were mostly used by DIYers. Now they are being adopted by the mass-market manufacturers.
Awesome work and great choice of hardware! I watched it all and was looking for what you got for a top speed and range? But didn't see it
Yeah I was waitting for top speed run also. Maybe next ride lol.
Great Video as always. I really like how those tires fit on the wide hubs. Good to see kami running again. Lol. Take care Brosky!
Thank you for watching~ And this was a review of the gear drive only.
Thank you brother~ :) you 2!!!
Amazing quality video, as always.
Thank you for watching as always too~ :)
This one looks slick! Do you sell your builds?
Thank you for saying that and according to Korea's customs law, individuals cannot send products with large capacity batteries overseas.
awesome looking board buddy
Thanks a million, Brother~ :)
선 리플 후 감상 항상 잘 보고 있습니다 :)
네~ 시청감사합니다 :)
Was the trucks you used the mini vertigo's (12.5")? Or were they the regular vertigo's?
It was the regular vertigo.
Wow that is quiet. Can the gear drives handle hard breaking or torque or do you need to have a larger curve(longer) in deceleration?
There is a softness and quietness, but the acceleration curve and braking curve are as intuitive as a typical gear drive.
모다소리 정말 고급지네요 ㅎ
구동느낌도 약간 그렇게 느껴졌어요~ :)
This is the board I want!
Thank you for saying that~
What kind of grease you used inside the gearbox? Nice graphics on the deck.👍
Thank you for watching ~ And it says for industrial high-rotation electrical machinery.
@@KAMiJUINs Thank for your answer.
Nice build.
Thanks~ :)
Awesome!
Thank you for watching :)
프롤링 스로틀드래그해도 연비주행과 안정성측면에서 엄청나군요 왜 기성품엔 이런애들이 없을까요? ㅠ
대부분의 DIY 부품들이 기성품보드들에 사용된 부품들보다 하이퀄리티입니다. 단가도 비싸구요. 아마 기성품으로 만들기에는 판매가를 맞추기 쉽지 않은것이 큰 이유일것 같습니다.
@@KAMiJUINs 어찌되었든 대단하십니다.
질문 있습니다. 저런 보드 데크는 어디서 구입하나요. 찾아보면 저런 보드가 잘 안보여서요. 보드 두장 사이에 밧데리 케이스를 넣으면 안정적이군요. 처음 봤습니다.
일반적인 스케이트 보드 데크를 2장 사용한 것입니다. 검색 사이트에 스케이트 보드 데크를 검색하셔서 가격비교해보시고 구매하시면 됩니다~
I believe there is a mistake in the video, the bearing OD should be 28mm not 23mm (if I'm not mistaking)
Oh, you're right. I misread the scale of a ruler.
Thank you.
BeautifuL..
Thank you for watching :)
i think gear drive is ovehyped. 20mm belt is much lighter, have customizable gear ratio, have less noise and cheaper(almost all components can be 3d printed)
Dw it’ll fizzle out just like direct drives
I also agree with you to a certain extent. However, in the case of this 4GS, there was no significant difference in weight and the drive noise was smaller than that of a belt drive. Each drive has its pros and cons, but what I felt the most from the review is that there are more choices to experience these new technologies on the Esk8. And I think it could be much more satisfying for someone~ Thank you for watching and for your comment too :)
Actually this is quieter than belts. There's a reason why Meepo and others have released similar drives.
I bought both 20mm belt setup, newbee 4GS and Boardnamics M1-AT. The belt setup was the most expensive. 4GS was quietest and the best design.
@@ryanschulz9893 There's already way more usage of gear drives than direct drives. They have already been around for a while now but have mostly been used on higher end boards (e.g. Kaly, Bioboards, etc.) and in the DIY community. It's just that you're now starting to see the mass-market manufacturers like Meepo, Exway, Acedeck, and others adopting them.
Почему шестеренки не металические?
Cool board =)
Thank you~ :)
이 보드 판매는 안하시나요?
입문용 보드 찾는데
너무 갖고싶어요 ㅜㅜ
DIY 보드들은 여러가지 이유로 가급적이면 판매를 하지 않습니다.
그리고 이보드는 입문자용으로 제작되지않았습니다 ㅜㅜ
보드가 처음이시라면 완제품을 먼저 경험해보시고 그 후에 직접 DIY를 해보시는것은 어떨까요?
@@KAMiJUINs 스텔라 미니나 미포같은 미니사이즈 느낌이면서 휠큰 보드를 찾는데 딱히 안보이네요 ㅜㅜ 딱 이게 그거다 싶었는데 ㅋㅋ
영상보고 궁금해서 여쭈어봅니다 4gs는 무엇인가요?
이번에 사용한 기어드라이브 상품명이 4GS 입니다.
What tyres are you using?
200mm (8'') Mud plugger
how can i buy these wheels?👀
Those wheels are from Newbee, check the link.
www.newbee.store/?spm=..index.header_1.1&spm_prev=..product_dc8af9df-a623-4023-a42d-e9dd669940d4.header_1.1
@@KAMiJUINs thank you!! I msg newbee with my board info to see if it’ll be compatible. Awesome looking wheels
330,- for 2 drives with plastic gears is too expensive though.
Yeah, it's a bit expensive compared to the ones that are released these days
Man that's a lot of noise compared to my electric unicycle.
Cuanto bale un skateboard como este
Giveaway please sir
a metal spur gear....the using what is likely Delrin nylon meshing gears.....that is not going to have a long life span.....even if the gears were glass filled nylon which is much stranger and hard wearing.....how do you see these lasting wear wise...metal against plastic is not a good competition for loaded gears?!?!?
You won't have a long life span either if you ride a board like that with suck a shit and narrow deck
I felt the same way as you when I was not familiar with the material of POM. However, after learning that it is used as a gear material for many electric car companies, I looked for more knowledge about it. Gear made of POM material reduces noise generation and has a lower friction coefficient than metal gear, so there is less heat generation. This eliminates the need to use many lubricants. In terms of durability, it can be said that it has been proven as much as it is used in cars. (They also placed metal and POM gears together.) Thanks~
This design is not like others. A lot of load is spread through the secondary gears. They did a lot of testing including jumping, etc. However of course time will tell. After 3000 km on one set I opened it up and everything looks fantastic. We'll see.
@@KAMiJUINs Hi there, I am very familiar with POM which is nylon as I am an automotive engineer, normal POM is soft as you know from experience of nylon products, ergo this is not normal nylon and is most likely Delrin a very hard form of nylon. Note nylon is highly suseptable to moisture absorbtion (hydroscopic)and thus swelling Delrin being a moderate exception to this rule. Delrin is used more on loading gears, such as light weight mechanisms an example being runners on sliding doors or gearing on moving doors on low duty cycle machinery. POM is widely used on geared system but only generally in things like motorised window winders and other relatively low abuse and low duty cycle parts, a classic example of POM is the toothed gear on a Scalextric ar or RC car, but the difference is they dont pull around 75kg over rough terrain, lets hope they do last buddy would be good if they do....but i have my reservations....fingers crossed
@@AdrianCho The issue is less about load, although this does play a significant factor in it, it is about two fundamental things, material hardness and the abrasion of metal against plastic, as i pointed out hopefully they are delrin, the next is torque inputs, the constant shift of load and torque combined slowly fatigues plastics, you cannot tell by looking, now jumping though it may seem to have bearing is less influential most shock is absorbed by the tyres and wheel, a moderate amount is transferred to the teeth in the drive train, but, despite having done 3000km which in actual fact is very low milage the reality jumping would have constituted only a tiny % of that ride time, and if most was then done on none aggressive terrain like rocky trails etc then loads will have been low to moderate, as far a wear you will be barely able to tell it an certainly not by looking only by measuring changes in back lash, as far a fatigue zero chance of observing it, and this is the issue, once it reaches it fatigue yield duty cycle it will give no warning and simply shear teeth.....however all this being said, if the riding one wishes to do is mainly street and smooth paths then yeah it certainly is a viable option. just seem odd to use plastic when the very same gear would readily be available in metal.
"so quiet" while the video is going "weeeeeeee"... those are definitely nowhere near as quiet as hub motors.
Maybe... Just a bit louder~