I think if on multiple occasions your team has to DOUBLE backtrack its a sign that theres no firm guidlines, they just kind of do what they want without consistency
I find it extraordinarily odd that a white creator (who has signed an exclusive deal and was given the opportunity to interview the CEO of the company no less) says twice in a span of 3 minutes, that he "doesn't believe YT employees are racist". And proceeds to use an example that doesn't equate in the actions YT took. Its very important to understand that YT used another video to effectively "check" the contents of a black creator in this instance. The first decision was de facto - non-black creator has same video, we can approve. The damning decision by YT that enforces the belief there is prejudice in the decision making or policy enforcing process is that they used another creator's content to validate the work of another -- not to levy the same penalty (which they did with Charlie/Mark) and subsequently attempted to rectify with Cory/Mark. The double back tracking, along with the immediate rejection of the appeal is where this has traction. And this ought to be discussed objectively by people like Ludwig and asking the questions as to WHY this may have happened and not going straight to "IT CANT BE THIS".
I think it’s better than the alternative which many other companies take, which is to always double down and never revert anything. While yes, I very much agree that UA-cam guidelines are clearly not clear enough or are enforced inconsistently among employees, it has nothing to do with racism or anything like it. I think what is happening is these controversial cases are getting moved to higher ups at UA-cam, like a Supreme Court kinda where they are the final say on the interpretation of the rules, which I personally think would be an excellent way of doing it if it is true. Ie: first time is just some random employee, appeal might be his boss, talks after that is the Supreme Court setting a president.
Timeline as of right now - Cory’s video got age restricted then the video got de age restricted then his video got re age restricted along with markipliers video then after that Cory’s video got de age restricted but markipliers videos still age restricted
Tbh I feel like Cory is one of the more advertiser friendly UA-camrs. He censors all curse words and rarely curses himself. He's also probably one of the most positive personalities on this site. The only problem is that he takes 9 month breaks every now and then. It's really weird how he gets treated differently by UA-cam.
He probably takes those breaks because its demoralizing as hell that shit like this happens to him on the regular. Like he said, this is a trend he's noticed happen to him multiple times. That would take the wind outta my sails too.
9 month breaks seems to get on youtube's bad side dontcha think? Its like they want him to be consistently uploading every single day including the double uploads if you're an og. Its so weird how they treat him like this everytime he returns
Yeah but hes crying like a baby and immediately calling racism when race has literally nothing to do with anything- if anything, youtube is almost entirely liberal and race isnt an issue- so why would cory go out of his way to ruin his reputation and make himself a laughing stock? Who cares how friendly he is, what lies deep down underneath that façade of friendliness and happiness is clearly a selfless victimized blamer who wants to see others fall instead of just saying okay cool my video isnt demonetized anymore
you left out the most important part of the Cory situation. The only times that he’s ever been scrutinized or age restricted is whenever he comes back to the platform and gets #1 trending for multiple days in a row.
I remember Charlie getting that strike, but forgot it was specifically him and when you were talking about Cory that exactly came to mind in a different and similar way. That was the first time I believe that Mark ever got striked in his whole career. Mark did not mind his channel struck since he does know he is well liked and probably could of made sense why Cory did Mark's video since he would understand what he meant. UA-cam has some serious issues with just understanding context of videos and cultures as to name a few. Just terrible and hope one day that UA-cam can fix this stuff.
I've seen some people blaming Mark for this situation, even two years ago with Charlie too, can't believe how dumb some people can be It's obvious he's on the favourite side but it's not his fault for being seen as a more monetizeable figure by UA-cam UA-cam has been on this way since 2016 and as far as I can tell, no change will come to the platform as long as they view some of their creators as obstacles for total monetization
@@Sephiroso. i saw tons blame him tbh hes blamed alot for being youtubes teachers pet when thats really not the case. and i dont even watch him and i know that
mark is such an amazing guy for what he did during the moist strike and what i’m sure he’ll do about this new issue (if it swings back to the favoritism side of things over racism side)
@@JonasFootball to me it just seems completely like favouritism I mean they do this shit all the time to white creators as well. The odds of this being racially motivated just seems extremely low to me
Cory is like the most advertiser friendly dude on the platform. Hes funny, responsible, he doesnt swear, he makes somewhat family friendly content, hes a man of god, and on top of all that, hes honestly hands down one of THE BEST most wholesome youtubers on here. Love you cory!
100% agree he is a household name for my family. I watch him, my brother in highschool watches him and my sister in middle school watches him. He’s all around positive fun.
UA-cam demonetizing videos after being called out for inconsistency is so fucking petty and childish. It's like the moderation team _enjoys_ asserting their absolute power!
The thing with UA-cam is that they hate doing manual reviews. So that probably their AI giving False negatives reviews, and when called out they're probably trust The AI and Demonitise both. And when they get called out again they're like "Okay, okay. were gonna review it..." and when he called UA-cam racist, they were like "You Know What? F YOU!"
I enjoy Coreyxkenshin a lot, my kid got me into watching him and now we like watching his playthroughs together. He’s never been crazy obnoxious or anything wild like that.
Yea, he even bleeps out curse words in any games he plays. One would think he's a brand safe youtube creator yet clearly someone behind the scenes on the team that does manual appeals disagrees.
@@Sephiroso. yeah wel sadly it's company policy that bleeped swears also count as swears, that's why a lot of creators cut all sound for a sec or use car horns or other weird sounds
no shit youtube plays favorite towards markiplier. dude has so many connections with youtube and is the epitome of what youtube wants their platform to be. ad friendly but not too much to where they’re pandering to kids. no disrespect to mark, he makes great content and works his ass off, but he def gets favoritism
I mean yeah for sure but Cory has 14 million subscribers and they don’t show him favoritism or any acknowledgment at all which is nuts. Like what else does he have to do? How many subscribers and views does he have to get to get any support from UA-cam?
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 cory also isnt very active on uploading videos as soemone like mark is,i think calling it racism is a stretch and just denying the other points about it
@@user-ym8zp6ld4e Yeah, isnt Mark half Korean? It's just a company being greedy and nothing else, man I wish I could call everything racist and people would give me stuff
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 acting like people can’t be racist against a specific race. it’s not crazy to say black people are discriminated against more than half asian people
UA-cam really needs to do better. I’ve been watching Cory for about three years now and he is one of the most popular and unproblematic creators on this platform. Seeing this just disappoints me.
Love cory’s content, and honestly I believe his claims, I have no doubt UA-cam 100% has favourites, I mean pewdiepie fell from good graces (I’ll admit for different circumstances but still)
@@wenchiemedina2389 yeah and he’s clearly learned from his mistakes, honestly the bridge incident is so insignificant in comparison to all the good he’s brought to the platform and that was like 4-5 years ago at this point if you can believe it.
@@leviour he said it’s either racism or favourites, I doubt it’s racism, it’s for sure favourites like the example of moist and markiplier having the same clip in a video while both being white
Cory is exactly what youtube needs. For being in a good position on youtuber having a very big fanbase, its really nice having someone thats very mainstream to talk about problems and really get things out there
The crazy thing is that even thought I understand the favoritism from youtube, since I believe creators can build reputations of not being controversial or rule breakers, but what I just can't understand why Cory is not on that list, he's a kid friendly youtuber, that censors his swearing and stays abiding the rules, while getting millions of views, so why is he not getting the same treatment as Mark, Jack, Mr Beast etc...
ever since the Act Man drama earlier this year, i’ve lost a lot of faith in youtube as a company. Act was off the platform for a few months & none of us had any idea if he was coming back, meanwhile the homophobe who literally called his Act’s mom & threatened her was allowed to continue posting… absolute absurdity that youtube banned someone who was calling out bullshit in the community.
Must mean UA-cam is racist against white people for taking quantum’s side when he’s so obviously in the wrong. Yeah, this cory guy jumped the shark calling it racism
thankyou for sticking up for cory he’s such an amazing dedicated creator who has done so much for this shitty platform and they’re still doing this to him it’s appalling behaviour u can’t blame him at all for thinking his identity plays a part what other reason is there at this point it’s happened SO many times now laughable
You can definitely blame him because UA-cam has always been inconsistent and playing favorites, and this dude thinks he can solve all his problems by accusing people of racism
@@mechamobu777 No you can't because you can tell you never watched his video he didn't want to call youtube a racist because you can't 100% prove someone is racist so he held off of it for years. So him coming out with the video was him at is wits end.
More inclined to believe in Favoritism and there is a lot of evidence of it over the years. I think there are a lot of employees with internal bias at all of these companies that affects these platforms and the polices and how they are unevenly applied. Solid video Ludwig.
He still swears a lot and has mature content akin to jacksepticeye or something but UA-cam doesn't demonitise him as frequently as others. Calling him brand friendly is weird. Is Cory not brand friendly? What is this image of Markiplier you have because it doesn't sound like him
honestly want to see if this video gets demonetized like his was. if it isn’t it’ll only speak even louder on how they stand when it comes to even the biggest black creators.
you're right, but in terms of this video's monetization it's kind of a lose-lose: - if it remains monetized, they aren't being consistent and are being discriminatory - if it is demonetized, they're not responsive or supportive to community outcry of unfair treatment
Tbh he reminds me of PewDiePie about 5-8 years ago when he started calling out UA-cam. I believe they're successful enough and have proven they can start again from scratch and live off it.
It’s actually amazing to me that Lud was just straight up like “UA-cam does play favorites” like finally someone said it. And it is even more interesting that he brought up who some of those favorites are. There are plenty of instances where it’s just people who are super advertiser friendly and pull in these huge numbers with every upload like Mr. Beast and it is crystal clear why youtube would want him front page, it’s a business move on their part, the ad revenue they generate from those videos has to be absolutely absurd. And then you have people like himself and Mark who although they don’t have the most ad-friendly videos, they managed to strike these big deals with youtube where youtube is still coming out on top from them being front page even if their content is more risqué. Then he talks about people like Charlie (who we have watched youtube actively put the smack down on and if it wasn’t for him actively getting in youtube’s face and calling them out I think they would’ve already silenced him) and even Cold Ones who are the polar opposite of ad-friendly, who don’t get any help from youtube or the algorithm but manage to stay afloat due to just an amazingly dedicated fan base and luckily making great friends on youtube who promote them even when youtube themselves won’t do it. The thing with Cory is that he is quite possibly one of the most ad-friendly people on the platform, pulling in huge numbers, has built a great fan base, but youtube doesn’t want him front page, and they attack him any time he ends up there.
I do think it’s ridiculous that somewhere in UA-cam there’s some kind of spite striking any time anyone calls them out for their decisions, but I don’t think that it looks bad when they go back on that decision as Lud says - The fact that they did it is bad, but going back on it shows a level of integrity where they don’t engage in cognitive dissonance and refuse to admit that any dumb thing they do is wrong and make the site worse without listening to its user base. Definitely it shouldn’t happen in the first place, but I don’t think Lud should admonish them being able to say “we were wrong”. I’m curious to hear what other people think on this view though!
I think in both cases the problem is they doubled down first. If they immediately walked back the age restriction/demonetisation then it can be seen as showing integrity and realising their mistake but by doubling down first then walking it back after further backlash it just looks like pandering to the community. Further, this is not a site for just sharing video content anymore, people rely on UA-cam as an employer for their livelihood and the flimsy and often times inconsistent way in which they can both apply and revoke the application of guidelines is a real issue. YT walking back their punishment again shows further favouritism as even though they are less liked than Mark, they are both still large creators that can cause uproar and smaller channels just can’t do that and will suffer unfair consequences
@@tommilocastro3071 I like your point (thanks for the insightful comment!) - I suppose to compare it do a different context now that you put it that way, it reminds me of the situation with certain game franchises. Take Pokemon for instance, the quality of many of their games in recent years is lacking, however people still buy the games and praise the developers for pushing back deadlines or when they patch certain issues - when in fact that should be the bare minimum, and doing such praise lets them get away with it. Back in the current context, I suppose it becomes an issue of, as you say, livelihood on the line, not just a mistake that can be walked back to square one so easily. So maybe i'm being a little to generous with my own "forgiveness" of their actions..? Idk haha
I think it's important people can still criticise them and they actually listen. And that should probably happen more than it does right now, especially when it's about small creators. So yes, I agree. UA-cam has a tendency to react immature, a "you don't like parts of this thing we do? Well then we'll stop it entirely and *also* take the good parts away". This attitude makes navigating discussions really difficult and creators find it even harder to reach out and shape a platform we all enjoy.
@@tommilocastro3071 is pandering to the community really a bad thing though??? is it so terrible to just give people what they want sometimes??? like I get that it would be better if they realized their mistakes on their own, but this isn't all that bad either. would you not rather be on a platform that listens to you?
If that's bad.. I'd suggest looking up "why I'm suing UA-cam" it's a very long video, but very informative, while being slightly political it's INSANE what he uncovered.
Casual reminder that Mark himself wasn’t on the favourite side until he blew up back around 2016, around or before that time his channel got deleted for some reason, so now his current channel is actually his second
I definitely believe Corey. Mark's humor is def more adult-oriented even though he does censor straight up nudity in post. I've still been surprised by even some of his thumbnails that get let through too lmao. No shade to Mark, he's hilarious, and I'm sure he'll be an upstanding guy through this. Mark also isn't fully white, he's mixed Korean. But anti-black racism can be really specific even to the point where other non-white people of color won't get targeted as hard.
Ludwigs contract with youtube makes me feel a lot more comfortable with staying on this platform. To accept a form of critique openly, especially in a contract, at least shows good will.
Probably not racism, the reason markiplier video wasn't age restricted is because he is a managed partner, so all the decisions on his acc has a manual eye look over it. Instead of automated systems.
please explain how they should without a doubt prove it's not racism. How do you prove that? It's not that easy and that many ppl think it is actually creeps me out.
@@Brea_D the policy people are completely anonymous and can only be judged on their actions, it's hard to prove it unless they directly call creators slurs. It is even impossible for creators to have direct access to them and have to go through a middle man which isn't really an effective way to solve anything. This whole lack of communication is the foundation of Cory's problem with them.
Fun fact: I am subscribed to dunkey. I watch every one of his videos on release and i have never had a single one of his vids on my recommendations page
I 100% agree with Corey, UA-cam has AI which uses datasets that cam be influenced by human biases. It has been known on multiple occasions for ai to convey human biases and this is just another example of that
Mark: "Hey UA-cam, where's my strike?" UA-cam: "Owh our boy wants a strike, guys quick do what he says!" Everyone: "Wtf UA-cam! That's not the solution!" UA-cam: "Ohh shit, we did something wrong, do the reverse strategy!"
I get what you’re saying, but Cory also keeps his channel VERY family friendly which is probably the only reason he suggested racism at all. Otherwise he would’ve only claimed favoritism.
@@mikko3 not sure if you watched Cory’s video, but he addressed that as well. Like with most companies, black people aren’t asking for special treatment only equal treatment. He mentioned markiplier because they have similar audiences, views, and subs, yet the rules weren’t applied equally. Now if the policy team is obligated to reach a quota to actually be relevant (dang that sounds kinda familiar🤔) all they’d need to do is explain that, and people being hit with age restrictions that make no sense without explanation would probably just write it off as (I guess it was just random for the quota). But I ask you specifically… what would you prefer we do? “See something, say something” is it not the slogan to deter bullying? Or is it that you ally with bullies?
Cory’s always been a huge influence on UA-cam. It would be a shame if he left due to reasons totally unrelated to UA-cam demonetization bias. Godspeed, Cory. Maybe something will finally be done about UA-cam’s awful censorship, bias, and fucking COMMENT BOTS
They're so brain dead that they don't think about going after all your videos because you pointed out they showed you favoritism just made them look super guilty
"I've had a suspicion my content gets targeted/suppressed" - guy who often trends #1 They do apply moderation differently and are more harsh with repeat offenders but there's so many people at UA-cam I doubt you can even get reviewed by the same person at this point. A lot of these creators get so invested they start thinking there is a maniacal madman behind the scenes screwing specifically them when it's just a mess of a system with too many moving parts.
I think Mark outwardly owning up to a strike is the sort of behaviour content creators have to do to force these companies to be more consistent with their monitorisation
Great video… clearly there needs to be more eyes on these decisions and emails to avoid all this back and forth. Tik tok is succeeding because of how generous they are to new content creators and personal algorithms… but it has its insane flaws that scar people too. End of the day…. It’s the internet…. You can’t safety cushion the whole platform.
It just doesn’t make sense because Cory is one of the most ad-friendly UA-camrs out there. He doesn’t curse and also edits out cursing in games he plays. It has to be something more than just “playing favorites” because he has a huge channel.
Thank you for talking about this. I hope this gets spread everywhere, and I hope Mark speaks on this as well. This isn't okay, and something needs to be done.
Cory didn’t receive his diamond plaque for 10million subs until he reached out to UA-cam directly. He also gets flagged for videos of outdated content every 9 months he comes back to UA-cam after a hiatus and goes #1 trending for weeks. UA-cam continues to be super critical of his channel and he doesn’t do any of the offense content I see from multiple non-black UA-camrs. For UA-cam to be this major conglomerate, there’s no excuse for their team to not have their shit together. But, at this point is it really a surprise for social media platforms to treat black content creators poorly? No… not really.
This is why we are where we are. UA-camrs by the look of it are getting fucked by UA-cam left and right but right away someone calls racism and the world collapses, policies change and everyone melts. Such a cop out. I’m not the biggest fan of how UA-cam runs things sometimes but I’m even less of a fan of crying racism like a child every time things don’t go your way.
Thank you for speaking on this. I feel many larger youtubers that agree with you, that UA-cam does have favorites, but they're scared to speak out on this topic because of UA-cams' action against those who have talked about this issue. I hope large scale growth occurs at some point, but a restructuring of UA-cam may be needed for this to occur.
Huh? Not sure how anyone can think this is caused by racism when QuantumTV didn't get any punishments. This seems so clearly to me just another example of UA-cam being incredibly inconsistent and useless and disjointed. One reviewer might think those things were dodgy because they're not trained well and it's not clear, not "oh he's black".
It's insane how much of this could be solved by UA-cam just communicating with people. They never tell anybody anything and then act shocked when people are left with no choice but to speculate one what the problem could be.
In the video Cory says it's been happening for 13 years now. Every time he would go into trending a random video would get demonetized or he would receive a strike. He mentioned you want to give people the benefit of the doubt and not leap to racism but at a certain point if it's been happening for that long you gotta wonder ..
@@handymannie I get what he’s saying but I can also confidently bet that the same thing is happening to someone or multiple creators out there who are white. I’m not saying it’s impossible for it to be racism, but I just feel like it’s a stretch
@@handymannie Couldn't this just be a quirk with the algorithm? Maybe the system sees a massive influx of views and then is more critical about that channels videos or something. Do we really think that there is a higher up at youtube that wants to keep this specific black mans channel from becoming "too popular" or just the algorithm that we don't fully understand doing some bullshit we don't approve of; like it has for years for every creator regardless of race?
I’m I the only one who think UA-cam has been consistent in that they’re constantly listening to the big creators? Charlie and Cody are going through the exact same process, if they make a tweet asking UA-cam if this is the hill to die on I bet $100 they would double review them and lift the restrictions
Nothing new, it is the same favoritism as you see on Twitch when some streamers break TOS and get a mild slap on the wrist (short ban) and smaller streamers get banned for day up on days for something laughable.
One thing that’s kind of off topic is that I had never seen a single video from Charlie in my recommended section, even when I used to watch videos with similar content. I only found out about Charlie because one of my friends told me that how channel was cool and I should watch it. UA-cam clearly has favorites, and it really shows.
Cory's video is the sentiment of a lot of black and poc creators have been feeling for years. UA-cam seems to know these issues but they are being wishy-washy with their solutions.
I only disagree with the Charlie point based off Cory’s video, unlike the yard for example where the language is unhinged, he beeps his out, so ya you can argue heavy favoritism depending on the creator but he’s right that if his content is either the same or possibly better for all ages then someone else I’m with Cory where this leads to something beyond just personal bias at UA-cam
@@kendallancaster9988 POC can be racist my friend. Not even disagreeing with you larger point about it not being a targeted race thing but that's such a shit argument
Im having a hard time understanding this comment. How does his content being the same of better for all ages lead to personal bias being striked out as an option? If anything id think it would lead to the bias option more than anything
@@craydussy At least my understanding of Ludwigs point is that it is unlikely be race related because UA-cam has shown in the past to be biased towards less marketable creators, but if Cory is already doing more then some of the more "marketable" creators to be advertiser friendly then what does that leave. So correct me if I am wrong but your saying the person flagging at youtube just has personal bias against Cory, cuz Markiplier is not the only creator that got away with the same posts without being flagged. But in this instance my argument its is more likely race related which is still technically bias. But what options does it leave, Cory's content is not far off from other creators that dont get flagged so if its not likely actually content related then its the creator. In this case you could say the youtube employees dont like his delivery or how he speaks but the most obvious discerning factor of him vs other similar creators is race.
Whenever Cory posts he gets millions of views, hundred of thousands of likes. Cory doesn’t cuss he bleeps out cuss words in the games he plays. he’s most family friendly you can get. when he did his security breach five nights at Freddy series that thing got millions of views for seven days straight and millions of likes. Cory trends almost every time he uploads a video. how is he not someone that makes them Hella money? How was he not one of your favorites in the gaming part of UA-cam? If anything he should be one of the ones getting favoritism.
@@catsmoking6485 Of course he does, but UA-cam cares more about consistent long videos then one off popular hits. Which is why animators on UA-cam suffer the most
Lmao how fucked is the mod system if the dudes partner manager was just "pretty sure" it was for the specific SH moment? Like the fuckers at UA-cam don't know why UA-cam be handing out strikes?
Yeah, I don't think it's racism, it's more favoritism, I don't think they care about race, I think they only care about their advertisers, and who's doing better at the time on youtube, if you're big enough and liked by advertisers enough you'll get away with more
I personally think one of the reasons Mark is treated well is that he's been around a while, i'm pretty sure some youtube employees saw him, and looked up to him, as teens or children. And because of this, i don't think they'd want to give a strike to a childhood idol.
also to add onto the charlie strike situation i feel like youtube also wouldnt typically like charlie as he is a twitch partner and they wouldnt want to make their users go over on twitch and help them out, which is also why i believe that you dont really see any twitch creators get much traction here on youtube unless they either made their account after they got big, or they got help from someone else to get traction
I think if on multiple occasions your team has to DOUBLE backtrack its a sign that theres no firm guidlines, they just kind of do what they want without consistency
very true
Makes sense
I find it extraordinarily odd that a white creator (who has signed an exclusive deal and was given the opportunity to interview the CEO of the company no less) says twice in a span of 3 minutes, that he "doesn't believe YT employees are racist". And proceeds to use an example that doesn't equate in the actions YT took.
Its very important to understand that YT used another video to effectively "check" the contents of a black creator in this instance. The first decision was de facto - non-black creator has same video, we can approve.
The damning decision by YT that enforces the belief there is prejudice in the decision making or policy enforcing process is that they used another creator's content to validate the work of another -- not to levy the same penalty (which they did with Charlie/Mark) and subsequently attempted to rectify with Cory/Mark. The double back tracking, along with the immediate rejection of the appeal is where this has traction.
And this ought to be discussed objectively by people like Ludwig and asking the questions as to WHY this may have happened and not going straight to "IT CANT BE THIS".
I think it’s better than the alternative which many other companies take, which is to always double down and never revert anything. While yes, I very much agree that UA-cam guidelines are clearly not clear enough or are enforced inconsistently among employees, it has nothing to do with racism or anything like it. I think what is happening is these controversial cases are getting moved to higher ups at UA-cam, like a Supreme Court kinda where they are the final say on the interpretation of the rules, which I personally think would be an excellent way of doing it if it is true. Ie: first time is just some random employee, appeal might be his boss, talks after that is the Supreme Court setting a president.
Timeline as of right now - Cory’s video got age restricted then the video got de age restricted then his video got re age restricted along with markipliers video then after that Cory’s video got de age restricted but markipliers videos still age restricted
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Tbh I feel like Cory is one of the more advertiser friendly UA-camrs. He censors all curse words and rarely curses himself. He's also probably one of the most positive personalities on this site. The only problem is that he takes 9 month breaks every now and then. It's really weird how he gets treated differently by UA-cam.
He probably takes those breaks because its demoralizing as hell that shit like this happens to him on the regular. Like he said, this is a trend he's noticed happen to him multiple times. That would take the wind outta my sails too.
9 month breaks seems to get on youtube's bad side dontcha think? Its like they want him to be consistently uploading every single day including the double uploads if you're an og. Its so weird how they treat him like this everytime he returns
@@AgentWarfstache89 so you admit that youtube does have* a bias against cory....?
@@Genesxs3000 i mean he even said in his video that he noticed this too everytime he returns to youtube
Yeah but hes crying like a baby and immediately calling racism when race has literally nothing to do with anything- if anything, youtube is almost entirely liberal and race isnt an issue- so why would cory go out of his way to ruin his reputation and make himself a laughing stock? Who cares how friendly he is, what lies deep down underneath that façade of friendliness and happiness is clearly a selfless victimized blamer who wants to see others fall instead of just saying okay cool my video isnt demonetized anymore
3:15 UA-cam: "wait a minute! Your right! MARK'S ASIAN"
*Age-Restricts*
you left out the most important part of the Cory situation. The only times that he’s ever been scrutinized or age restricted is whenever he comes back to the platform and gets #1 trending for multiple days in a row.
I remember Charlie getting that strike, but forgot it was specifically him and when you were talking about Cory that exactly came to mind in a different and similar way. That was the first time I believe that Mark ever got striked in his whole career. Mark did not mind his channel struck since he does know he is well liked and probably could of made sense why Cory did Mark's video since he would understand what he meant. UA-cam has some serious issues with just understanding context of videos and cultures as to name a few. Just terrible and hope one day that UA-cam can fix this stuff.
@The TacoCat it explains everything, thank you!
@Creative edited videos it explains everything, thank you!
I've seen some people blaming Mark for this situation, even two years ago with Charlie too, can't believe how dumb some people can be
It's obvious he's on the favourite side but it's not his fault for being seen as a more monetizeable figure by UA-cam
UA-cam has been on this way since 2016 and as far as I can tell, no change will come to the platform as long as they view some of their creators as obstacles for total monetization
Where? I've not seen a single person blame Markiplier.
Plus not to mention the channel has right now is the second one he has. The first channel was terminated during the earlier days of his career
Mark has also told UA-cam to demonetize or strike his video in solidarity during other similar situations.
@@Sephiroso. i saw tons blame him tbh hes blamed alot for being youtubes teachers pet when thats really not the case. and i dont even watch him and i know that
Mark ain't even white
mark is such an amazing guy for what he did during the moist strike and what i’m sure he’ll do about this new issue (if it swings back to the favoritism side of things over racism side)
@\f_a/ lol did you not watch the video?
Yeah I do believe it's more favoritism than racism so I hope he can help out
Moist strike?
@\f_a/ talked about at 6:00
@@JonasFootball to me it just seems completely like favouritism I mean they do this shit all the time to white creators as well. The odds of this being racially motivated just seems extremely low to me
Cory is like the most advertiser friendly dude on the platform. Hes funny, responsible, he doesnt swear, he makes somewhat family friendly content, hes a man of god, and on top of all that, hes honestly hands down one of THE BEST most wholesome youtubers on here. Love you cory!
100% agree he is a household name for my family. I watch him, my brother in highschool watches him and my sister in middle school watches him. He’s all around positive fun.
the man of god part might have offended some silicon valley types
So from that first sentence you said, that should let you know there’s a bigger agenda at hand here.
@@ichbindumm437 wym christian channels dont get demonitised
@@ichbindumm437 bruh what
Props to Mark for not just staying silent and not standing for this "special treatment"
He’s a great UA-camr and nobody’s making fun of him both Cory and moist are friends with him he’s obviously favorited by UA-cam
Must be annoying af when you're the golden child of a platform when you didn't even ask for it.
UA-cam demonetizing videos after being called out for inconsistency is so fucking petty and childish. It's like the moderation team _enjoys_ asserting their absolute power!
That’s because they do
The thing with UA-cam is that they hate doing manual reviews. So that probably their AI giving False negatives reviews, and when called out they're probably trust The AI and Demonitise both. And when they get called out again they're like "Okay, okay. were gonna review it..." and when he called UA-cam racist, they were like "You Know What? F YOU!"
They probably have god complex,and ban anyone who badmouth them
I don't think it's childish. It sounds like typical corporate mismanagement when they get caught lacking.
Just like discord mods lmao
I enjoy Coreyxkenshin a lot, my kid got me into watching him and now we like watching his playthroughs together. He’s never been crazy obnoxious or anything wild like that.
Yea, he even bleeps out curse words in any games he plays. One would think he's a brand safe youtube creator yet clearly someone behind the scenes on the team that does manual appeals disagrees.
Wholesome
@The TacoCat idk if that's an actual comment or a bot. Not clicking it either way.
@@Sephiroso. yeah wel sadly it's company policy that bleeped swears also count as swears, that's why a lot of creators cut all sound for a sec or use car horns or other weird sounds
@@ThaGr1m im guessing you dont watch cory from what u just said but he censors words by doing different sound affects like that
no shit youtube plays favorite towards markiplier. dude has so many connections with youtube and is the epitome of what youtube wants their platform to be. ad friendly but not too much to where they’re pandering to kids. no disrespect to mark, he makes great content and works his ass off, but he def gets favoritism
I mean yeah for sure but Cory has 14 million subscribers and they don’t show him favoritism or any acknowledgment at all which is nuts. Like what else does he have to do? How many subscribers and views does he have to get to get any support from UA-cam?
@@youngrootv Yeah but how much do you hear from him? Mark is a meme machine and even people who dgaf know him
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 cory also isnt very active on uploading videos as soemone like mark is,i think calling it racism is a stretch and just denying the other points about it
@@user-ym8zp6ld4e Yeah, isnt Mark half Korean? It's just a company being greedy and nothing else, man I wish I could call everything racist and people would give me stuff
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 acting like people can’t be racist against a specific race. it’s not crazy to say black people are discriminated against more than half asian people
UA-cam really needs to do better. I’ve been watching Cory for about three years now and he is one of the most popular and unproblematic creators on this platform. Seeing this just disappoints me.
fr, I've been watching him since 2018
The fact that Corey has said things like this has happened many times when he was doing good on the platform as well!
Sorry to be that guy but Cory*
Love cory’s content, and honestly I believe his claims, I have no doubt UA-cam 100% has favourites, I mean pewdiepie fell from good graces (I’ll admit for different circumstances but still)
True, they didn't allow the most subscribed UA-camr to be on trending how unfair
But he actually said UA-cam is racist
@@wenchiemedina2389 yeah and he’s clearly learned from his mistakes, honestly the bridge incident is so insignificant in comparison to all the good he’s brought to the platform and that was like 4-5 years ago at this point if you can believe it.
his claims are stupid af, def not race.
@@leviour he said it’s either racism or favourites, I doubt it’s racism, it’s for sure favourites like the example of moist and markiplier having the same clip in a video while both being white
I’m glad that you’re addressing Cory’s video.
Never thought that the ludbuds and samurai would crossover.
@The TacoCat stop spamming Jesus Christ
me neither but holy shit it’s awesome. come to think of it now, seeing these two play a horror game together would be awesome
Fr, Cory has been one of my favourite channels since I was in middle school
Yea it’s so sad it has to be this way!!
Fr I saw this video and I was like “wtf”
Cory is exactly what youtube needs. For being in a good position on youtuber having a very big fanbase, its really nice having someone thats very mainstream to talk about problems and really get things out there
The crazy thing is that even thought I understand the favoritism from youtube, since I believe creators can build reputations of not being controversial or rule breakers, but what I just can't understand why Cory is not on that list, he's a kid friendly youtuber, that censors his swearing and stays abiding the rules, while getting millions of views, so why is he not getting the same treatment as Mark, Jack, Mr Beast etc...
Cause white ppl support white ppl
@@mikko3he always number 1 trending so shut up🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@mikko3 the way you completely missed the point
ever since the Act Man drama earlier this year, i’ve lost a lot of faith in youtube as a company. Act was off the platform for a few months & none of us had any idea if he was coming back, meanwhile the homophobe who literally called his Act’s mom & threatened her was allowed to continue posting… absolute absurdity that youtube banned someone who was calling out bullshit in the community.
Funnier thing,quantum hasn't stop false copyright striking
@@JohnWick-rh1zz he never will. He's such a c*ck
The reason is Quantum likes to bend over Susans desk while she pegs him, so she lets him get away with anything
Must mean UA-cam is racist against white people for taking quantum’s side when he’s so obviously in the wrong. Yeah, this cory guy jumped the shark calling it racism
Took you this long? Lost faith in this website since Google bought it.
thankyou for sticking up for cory he’s such an amazing dedicated creator who has done so much for this shitty platform and they’re still doing this to him it’s appalling behaviour u can’t blame him at all for thinking his identity plays a part what other reason is there at this point it’s happened SO many times now laughable
You can definitely blame him because UA-cam has always been inconsistent and playing favorites, and this dude thinks he can solve all his problems by accusing people of racism
@@mechamobu777 No you can't because you can tell you never watched his video he didn't want to call youtube a racist because you can't 100% prove someone is racist so he held off of it for years. So him coming out with the video was him at is wits end.
@@mechamobu777 ...this is the only time he ever accused someone of racism
@@catsmoking6485 you are RACIST and therefore I win automatically
@@mechamobu777 maybe watch his video instead of thinking he wants to call youtube racist
the balls of this man to sign a legal contract with a company and still constructively shit on them.
for real, does he want a break from content creation? haha
Say what you want about youtube, they will actively let you shit on their platform with 0 repercussions
@@craydussy well what are they gonna do lmao. Well I guess they did demonetize his videos after his session with susan
@@craydussy and they still won't do anything to better themselves
More inclined to believe in Favoritism and there is a lot of evidence of it over the years.
I think there are a lot of employees with internal bias at all of these companies that affects these platforms and the polices and how they are unevenly applied.
Solid video Ludwig.
For sure. That's why policies and procedures shouldn't be vague with no transparency.
Coryxkenshin has been my favorite UA-camr for 4 years now. He is the most family friendly UA-camr and he gets age restricted good job UA-cam.
The moderation behind platforms like UA-cam and twitch have been inconsistent for such a long time
It’s cause they’re sourced like a tech company. It’s a box to check. A 2nd or 3rd thought.
Sadly better that way that having just an AI that possibly never change opinion
@@neociber24 Tough luck, YT has automated moderation so
I cant even find a UA-cam text support lol cause I wanted to report the bots
Markiplier is what UA-cam wanted Pewdiepie to be. A brand friendly high level creator
He still swears a lot and has mature content akin to jacksepticeye or something but UA-cam doesn't demonitise him as frequently as others. Calling him brand friendly is weird. Is Cory not brand friendly? What is this image of Markiplier you have because it doesn't sound like him
@@smellycat57 swearing and and having mature content in videos doesn't automatically mean a creator isn't brand friendly
@@grim1187 While that's true, have you seen companies standards for ad friendly? Cursing is usually up there with ad friendly no-no's.
Uhhhh I like markiplier... lol but family friendly... he is not...😅
@@smellycat57 he is an American white guy. Pewds from Sweden. I guess Cory is right.
Ludwig quickly becoming your internet news source
I let my son watch him. Hes wholesome af, we love him together. His treatment is disgusting.
All these creators getting behind this message is fantastic though.
@MattLovesToTilt what’s not that simple?
@MattLovesToTilt still waiting for Matt to respond
@MattLovesToTilt you got this you can respond
@MattLovesToTilt Hey Matt, it’s obvious YT is playing favoritism. many creators don’t upload for months yet they still come up on the front page
Yeah youtube definitely picks and choose who to restrict when there are way worse youtubers with disrespectful content.
Been a cory sub since he was at 100k. Sad to see this happening to him
cory doesn't deserve this maan, he has done a lot for the community and is just a great creator
same been watching him grow for years he really doesnt deserve it
ive been watching him since 800k
honestly want to see if this video gets demonetized like his was. if it isn’t it’ll only speak even louder on how they stand when it comes to even the biggest black creators.
you're right, but in terms of this video's monetization it's kind of a lose-lose:
- if it remains monetized, they aren't being consistent and are being discriminatory
- if it is demonetized, they're not responsive or supportive to community outcry of unfair treatment
Why would this video get demonetized? It doesn't show any footage from Mortuary Assitant
@@nay_thaniel it's the fact he's (this creator) is white 😐 with no regard of the other situation the racism has occurred
@The TacoCat thanks for posting so I can just block your account 👍
One more time for people in the back
I think it’s awesome that Ludwig puts his career in the line to make his platform a better place.
Tbh he reminds me of PewDiePie about 5-8 years ago when he started calling out UA-cam. I believe they're successful enough and have proven they can start again from scratch and live off it.
I think Cory is the one we should really be commending. Just saying.
Hes not putting shit on the line.
It’s actually amazing to me that Lud was just straight up like “UA-cam does play favorites” like finally someone said it. And it is even more interesting that he brought up who some of those favorites are. There are plenty of instances where it’s just people who are super advertiser friendly and pull in these huge numbers with every upload like Mr. Beast and it is crystal clear why youtube would want him front page, it’s a business move on their part, the ad revenue they generate from those videos has to be absolutely absurd. And then you have people like himself and Mark who although they don’t have the most ad-friendly videos, they managed to strike these big deals with youtube where youtube is still coming out on top from them being front page even if their content is more risqué. Then he talks about people like Charlie (who we have watched youtube actively put the smack down on and if it wasn’t for him actively getting in youtube’s face and calling them out I think they would’ve already silenced him) and even Cold Ones who are the polar opposite of ad-friendly, who don’t get any help from youtube or the algorithm but manage to stay afloat due to just an amazingly dedicated fan base and luckily making great friends on youtube who promote them even when youtube themselves won’t do it. The thing with Cory is that he is quite possibly one of the most ad-friendly people on the platform, pulling in huge numbers, has built a great fan base, but youtube doesn’t want him front page, and they attack him any time he ends up there.
Mark just going "Strike me you cowards!" What a gigachad
I do think it’s ridiculous that somewhere in UA-cam there’s some kind of spite striking any time anyone calls them out for their decisions, but I don’t think that it looks bad when they go back on that decision as Lud says - The fact that they did it is bad, but going back on it shows a level of integrity where they don’t engage in cognitive dissonance and refuse to admit that any dumb thing they do is wrong and make the site worse without listening to its user base. Definitely it shouldn’t happen in the first place, but I don’t think Lud should admonish them being able to say “we were wrong”.
I’m curious to hear what other people think on this view though!
I agree. YT should be allowed to backtrack. It doesn't look great, but it actually shows some level of integrity, as you said.
I think in both cases the problem is they doubled down first. If they immediately walked back the age restriction/demonetisation then it can be seen as showing integrity and realising their mistake but by doubling down first then walking it back after further backlash it just looks like pandering to the community. Further, this is not a site for just sharing video content anymore, people rely on UA-cam as an employer for their livelihood and the flimsy and often times inconsistent way in which they can both apply and revoke the application of guidelines is a real issue. YT walking back their punishment again shows further favouritism as even though they are less liked than Mark, they are both still large creators that can cause uproar and smaller channels just can’t do that and will suffer unfair consequences
@@tommilocastro3071 I like your point (thanks for the insightful comment!) - I suppose to compare it do a different context now that you put it that way, it reminds me of the situation with certain game franchises. Take Pokemon for instance, the quality of many of their games in recent years is lacking, however people still buy the games and praise the developers for pushing back deadlines or when they patch certain issues - when in fact that should be the bare minimum, and doing such praise lets them get away with it. Back in the current context, I suppose it becomes an issue of, as you say, livelihood on the line, not just a mistake that can be walked back to square one so easily. So maybe i'm being a little to generous with my own "forgiveness" of their actions..? Idk haha
I think it's important people can still criticise them and they actually listen. And that should probably happen more than it does right now, especially when it's about small creators. So yes, I agree. UA-cam has a tendency to react immature, a "you don't like parts of this thing we do? Well then we'll stop it entirely and *also* take the good parts away". This attitude makes navigating discussions really difficult and creators find it even harder to reach out and shape a platform we all enjoy.
@@tommilocastro3071 is pandering to the community really a bad thing though??? is it so terrible to just give people what they want sometimes??? like I get that it would be better if they realized their mistakes on their own, but this isn't all that bad either. would you not rather be on a platform that listens to you?
If that's bad.. I'd suggest looking up "why I'm suing UA-cam" it's a very long video, but very informative, while being slightly political it's INSANE what he uncovered.
Yeah this video is right up Ludwig’s alley
@The TacoCat no, that is your (or someone related to you) own video. Please stop these useless comments!
5:35 you should never stay quiet when it comes to things like that. In my opinion you should always stand up for what's right over profit
youtube saying "were not gonna die on this hill" is really fucking funny
This is why I love mogul mail - a quick, to the point and detailed synopsis of the event
Casual reminder that Mark himself wasn’t on the favourite side until he blew up back around 2016, around or before that time his channel got deleted for some reason, so now his current channel is actually his second
I would like if you covered the keffals/kiwifarms situation to shine a bigger light on the subject.
I definitely believe Corey. Mark's humor is def more adult-oriented even though he does censor straight up nudity in post. I've still been surprised by even some of his thumbnails that get let through too lmao.
No shade to Mark, he's hilarious, and I'm sure he'll be an upstanding guy through this. Mark also isn't fully white, he's mixed Korean. But anti-black racism can be really specific even to the point where other non-white people of color won't get targeted as hard.
@Kuber Aseh Does it matter? They either admit that they're racist (lol) or say they aren't, and that they do play favorites.
I love how Ludwig isn't afraid to call out these kids of situations.
Thank you for covering this!
Ludwigs contract with youtube makes me feel a lot more comfortable with staying on this platform. To accept a form of critique openly, especially in a contract, at least shows good will.
Probably not racism, the reason markiplier video wasn't age restricted is because he is a managed partner, so all the decisions on his acc has a manual eye look over it. Instead of automated systems.
Very insightful video! Watched it all the way through.
Nah bru
You should go support Cory directly if you don’t already, great UA-camr and has a great editing style
Good for you
Cory: "Can you prove this isn't racism?"
UA-cam: "I think.. No. We can demonetise mark smile."
Well tbf he made the claim and then cory needs to show proof
Racism is a stretch i believe that UA-cam is more deaf to its creators and its actual rules and choose favorites
please explain how they should without a doubt prove it's not racism. How do you prove that? It's not that easy and that many ppl think it is actually creeps me out.
@NN Hey man i dont care enough tbh to go into depth it was just an initial thought of it
@@Brea_D the policy people are completely anonymous and can only be judged on their actions, it's hard to prove it unless they directly call creators slurs. It is even impossible for creators to have direct access to them and have to go through a middle man which isn't really an effective way to solve anything. This whole lack of communication is the foundation of Cory's problem with them.
Being recommended this video a year later kinda speaks volumes here at UA-cam..
Fun fact: I am subscribed to dunkey. I watch every one of his videos on release and i have never had a single one of his vids on my recommendations page
I 100% agree with Corey, UA-cam has AI which uses datasets that cam be influenced by human biases. It has been known on multiple occasions for ai to convey human biases and this is just another example of that
Bald boy was here
UA-cam shot themselves in the foot by removing it then add it back.
Meanwhile Mortuary Assistant getting all the exposure : EZ Clap
UA-cam is so wrong for this. To demonize Cory is insane. When he’s like the most kid friendly UA-cam gamer I know. Smh they better smarten up
Mark: "Hey UA-cam, where's my strike?"
UA-cam: "Owh our boy wants a strike, guys quick do what he says!"
Everyone: "Wtf UA-cam! That's not the solution!"
UA-cam: "Ohh shit, we did something wrong, do the reverse strategy!"
It's like the company has trouble with coming up with solutions on their own.
didn't he get a strike for that vid before?
@The TacoCat can you like, please shut the hell up every goddamn second? thanks.
I get what you’re saying, but Cory also keeps his channel VERY family friendly which is probably the only reason he suggested racism at all. Otherwise he would’ve only claimed favoritism.
@@mikko3 not sure if you watched Cory’s video, but he addressed that as well. Like with most companies, black people aren’t asking for special treatment only equal treatment.
He mentioned markiplier because they have similar audiences, views, and subs, yet the rules weren’t applied equally.
Now if the policy team is obligated to reach a quota to actually be relevant (dang that sounds kinda familiar🤔) all they’d need to do is explain that, and people being hit with age restrictions that make no sense without explanation would probably just write it off as (I guess it was just random for the quota).
But I ask you specifically… what would you prefer we do? “See something, say something” is it not the slogan to deter bullying? Or is it that you ally with bullies?
I’m so glad he brought up the mascot gate 😂
I better not see a single person attacking my dear markimoo.
What’s up luddy
Cory’s always been a huge influence on UA-cam. It would be a shame if he left due to reasons totally unrelated to UA-cam demonetization bias.
Godspeed, Cory. Maybe something will finally be done about UA-cam’s awful censorship, bias, and fucking COMMENT BOTS
It’s the classic saying, “don’t assume malevolence where ignorance is sufficient”
I would 100% understand that youtube loves Mark. Dude literally made low budget movies with heist and in space
They're so brain dead that they don't think about going after all your videos because you pointed out they showed you favoritism just made them look super guilty
Thanks for addressing this, Lud. I was watching Cory’s video last night and was hoping other creators would back him up
"I've had a suspicion my content gets targeted/suppressed" - guy who often trends #1
They do apply moderation differently and are more harsh with repeat offenders but there's so many people at UA-cam I doubt you can even get reviewed by the same person at this point. A lot of these creators get so invested they start thinking there is a maniacal madman behind the scenes screwing specifically them when it's just a mess of a system with too many moving parts.
REAL
fucking thank you. You said what i wanted to but in significanly less words
LETS GO LUD, Im so glad youre bringing this further into the light
I think Mark outwardly owning up to a strike is the sort of behaviour content creators have to do to force these companies to be more consistent with their monitorisation
As soon as I saw Corey’s video I knew you’d make a mogul mail. Very glad to see this in my feed
Great video… clearly there needs to be more eyes on these decisions and emails to avoid all this back and forth. Tik tok is succeeding because of how generous they are to new content creators and personal algorithms… but it has its insane flaws that scar people too.
End of the day…. It’s the internet…. You can’t safety cushion the whole platform.
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@The TacoCat nope nope nope nope
It just doesn’t make sense because Cory is one of the most ad-friendly UA-camrs out there. He doesn’t curse and also edits out cursing in games he plays. It has to be something more than just “playing favorites” because he has a huge channel.
Thank you for talking about this. I hope this gets spread everywhere, and I hope Mark speaks on this as well. This isn't okay, and something needs to be done.
@The TacoCat shut up
Cory didn’t receive his diamond plaque for 10million subs until he reached out to UA-cam directly. He also gets flagged for videos of outdated content every 9 months he comes back to UA-cam after a hiatus and goes #1 trending for weeks. UA-cam continues to be super critical of his channel and he doesn’t do any of the offense content I see from multiple non-black UA-camrs. For UA-cam to be this major conglomerate, there’s no excuse for their team to not have their shit together. But, at this point is it really a surprise for social media platforms to treat black content creators poorly? No… not really.
This is why we are where we are. UA-camrs by the look of it are getting fucked by UA-cam left and right but right away someone calls racism and the world collapses, policies change and everyone melts. Such a cop out. I’m not the biggest fan of how UA-cam runs things sometimes but I’m even less of a fan of crying racism like a child every time things don’t go your way.
cory is fr a goat, love his community (when they behave lmaoo) and he's funny asf, genuinely an awesome dude
Thank you for speaking on this. I feel many larger youtubers that agree with you, that UA-cam does have favorites, but they're scared to speak out on this topic because of UA-cams' action against those who have talked about this issue. I hope large scale growth occurs at some point, but a restructuring of UA-cam may be needed for this to occur.
Huh? Not sure how anyone can think this is caused by racism when QuantumTV didn't get any punishments. This seems so clearly to me just another example of UA-cam being incredibly inconsistent and useless and disjointed. One reviewer might think those things were dodgy because they're not trained well and it's not clear, not "oh he's black".
It's insane how much of this could be solved by UA-cam just communicating with people. They never tell anybody anything and then act shocked when people are left with no choice but to speculate one what the problem could be.
“Maybe I should’ve just kept quiet”
That’s how they’ll keep getting away with it
I think UA-cam definitely plays favorites but it seems like a pretty large leap to me to go from playing favorites to racism but what do I know
In the video Cory says it's been happening for 13 years now. Every time he would go into trending a random video would get demonetized or he would receive a strike. He mentioned you want to give people the benefit of the doubt and not leap to racism but at a certain point if it's been happening for that long you gotta wonder ..
@@handymannie I get what he’s saying but I can also confidently bet that the same thing is happening to someone or multiple creators out there who are white. I’m not saying it’s impossible for it to be racism, but I just feel like it’s a stretch
@@handymannie regardless I hope this situation stops because it a crappy problem to deal with
@@handymannie Couldn't this just be a quirk with the algorithm? Maybe the system sees a massive influx of views and then is more critical about that channels videos or something. Do we really think that there is a higher up at youtube that wants to keep this specific black mans channel from becoming "too popular" or just the algorithm that we don't fully understand doing some bullshit we don't approve of; like it has for years for every creator regardless of race?
I’m I the only one who think UA-cam has been consistent in that they’re constantly listening to the big creators? Charlie and Cody are going through the exact same process, if they make a tweet asking UA-cam if this is the hill to die on I bet $100 they would double review them and lift the restrictions
You are an op/bot for sure
Nothing new, it is the same favoritism as you see on Twitch when some streamers break TOS and get a mild slap on the wrist (short ban) and smaller streamers get banned for day up on days for something laughable.
One thing that’s kind of off topic is that I had never seen a single video from Charlie in my recommended section, even when I used to watch videos with similar content. I only found out about Charlie because one of my friends told me that how channel was cool and I should watch it. UA-cam clearly has favorites, and it really shows.
Ludwig thanks for talking to ur audience about this
It’s very important for people to spread the word
@The TacoCat bruh
I think you should bring back the reading emails videos
Cory's video is the sentiment of a lot of black and poc creators have been feeling for years. UA-cam seems to know these issues but they are being wishy-washy with their solutions.
Justice for Cory
"how's it going boys welcome back to mogul mail today we're talking about racism and who better to discuss it than me"
Cory is amazing. Bro UA-cams little banners talk about “sharing your heritage” all the time then they proceed to do this.
I only disagree with the Charlie point based off Cory’s video, unlike the yard for example where the language is unhinged, he beeps his out, so ya you can argue heavy favoritism depending on the creator but he’s right that if his content is either the same or possibly better for all ages then someone else I’m with Cory where this leads to something beyond just personal bias at UA-cam
I mean they obviously aren't racist, Mark is German and Korean descent born in Hawaii soo
@@kendallancaster9988 just bc you don’t discriminate against one group of ppl doesn’t mean you can’t for any other
@@kendallancaster9988 POC can be racist my friend. Not even disagreeing with you larger point about it not being a targeted race thing but that's such a shit argument
Im having a hard time understanding this comment. How does his content being the same of better for all ages lead to personal bias being striked out as an option? If anything id think it would lead to the bias option more than anything
@@craydussy At least my understanding of Ludwigs point is that it is unlikely be race related because UA-cam has shown in the past to be biased towards less marketable creators, but if Cory is already doing more then some of the more "marketable" creators to be advertiser friendly then what does that leave. So correct me if I am wrong but your saying the person flagging at youtube just has personal bias against Cory, cuz Markiplier is not the only creator that got away with the same posts without being flagged. But in this instance my argument its is more likely race related which is still technically bias. But what options does it leave, Cory's content is not far off from other creators that dont get flagged so if its not likely actually content related then its the creator. In this case you could say the youtube employees dont like his delivery or how he speaks but the most obvious discerning factor of him vs other similar creators is race.
I mean, I understand favoritism. They’re a company so they might be more lenient towards someone who makes them more money.
Whenever Cory posts he gets millions of views, hundred of thousands of likes. Cory doesn’t cuss he bleeps out cuss words in the games he plays. he’s most family friendly you can get. when he did his security breach five nights at Freddy series that thing got millions of views for seven days straight and millions of likes. Cory trends almost every time he uploads a video. how is he not someone that makes them Hella money? How was he not one of your favorites in the gaming part of UA-cam? If anything he should be one of the ones getting favoritism.
@@lenalouwho4100 Yeah, sounds like it. I hope UA-cam gets their act together.
@@lenalouwho4100 Markiplier is way more consistent with uploads
@@goro123451 cory still makes them a lot of money? he trend all the time
@@catsmoking6485 Of course he does, but UA-cam cares more about consistent long videos then one off popular hits. Which is why animators on UA-cam suffer the most
Really a travesty what Cory has to deal with
Don't apologize for what stands for right, speak out about it so it can get fixed. Thanks for bringing this to light.
Just wanted to say I am here for all the Mogul Mails. I love this media format and can’t get enough.
Hey Ludwig, I think the Business Casual lawsuit against UA-cam would make a very interesting Mogul Mail episode, would love to hear your thoughts.
Lmao how fucked is the mod system if the dudes partner manager was just "pretty sure" it was for the specific SH moment?
Like the fuckers at UA-cam don't know why UA-cam be handing out strikes?
Yeah, I don't think it's racism, it's more favoritism, I don't think they care about race, I think they only care about their advertisers, and who's doing better at the time on youtube, if you're big enough and liked by advertisers enough you'll get away with more
I personally think one of the reasons Mark is treated well is that he's been around a while, i'm pretty sure some youtube employees saw him, and looked up to him, as teens or children.
And because of this, i don't think they'd want to give a strike to a childhood idol.
also to add onto the charlie strike situation i feel like youtube also wouldnt typically like charlie as he is a twitch partner and they wouldnt want to make their users go over on twitch and help them out, which is also why i believe that you dont really see any twitch creators get much traction here on youtube unless they either made their account after they got big, or they got help from someone else to get traction