You call this lady an ape, and mean it as a complement. Would you say this to the lady of your dreams, on the third date, trying to steal a kiss from her at the porch of her parent's house? Go wash your mouth young man!
if you want to be descandant from a monkey it is up to you but i prefer to be more valuable than that and descend from another human being!@@TheDizzleHawke
Wolves two dogs is de evolution. Example - isle dog, coyotes, foxes and Jack coals de send from prehistoric wolves,but witch breed has buy de part ore features Prehistoric wolves are Ms. Sing? De an sir is none bee cause de changes comes from losing genetic information 👇 Foxes (preserved) prehistoric wolves large fluff fee tell,But day (lost) de large size. Great dames (preserved) prehistoric wolves large size (most Lee) but day (lost) de large fluff fee tell. Pugs lost every thing. Pugs lost de long snout, Long ears, long legs, and large fluff fee tell. Diss is de causes of de varieties,knot evolution. Losing features is slow Lee dissolving knot evolving. A Evolutionist wood say," look at de pug indie fox. De fox evolved a large fluff fee tell,but de pug did ant. Environment pressures caused dim two evolve different Lee." Foxes did ant evolve that tell,it's a preserved feature from prehistoric wolves. Pugs and foxes De-evolved different Lee from prehistoric wolves. De monk key question is much deeper. Hue men's are here,monk keys are here,but none of de thousands of transactional half bipedal apes did ant survive until modern times.isle so, if any moles branch off inn two moe tea bowl creature,why dew it stop during de in-between stages? Should ant half bipedal apes have branches two? Why is their a dye reck line from none bipedal apes two hue men's width out branches? De half bipedal apes should have branched off inn two other bipedal any moles like yeti's. Erika said, a mutate width that gives a any moles a advantage takes over de population,but that's knot true. Example - if a deer was born width 30 purr cent speed increase,that gives it a higher chance of taking over de population,but theirs a problem width diss bee leaf. 90 purr cent of any moles dye during childhood,So de mutate is ant beneficial until it reaches adult hood. Meaning isle other deer wheel reach adult at de same time,So it does ant give dim a reproduction advantage. A lot Moore problems width diss bee leaf, but it wood take a lot of typing.
The problem with a statement like, "young earth Creationism is ok so long as it isn't taught in public schools," is that this is only part of the problem. Politicians with creationist notions rise to power, and propose and implement policies based on unstated ideological perspectives, which can be concealed in political or pseudoscientific prattle. It's dangerous from any perspective.
Exactly, a large chunk of climate change deniers seem to believe that 'only God can influence/change the climate', or 'who cares if the earth's warming, Jesus is coming to fetch us' etc.
@@qzh00k Agreed, still it's more than creationism, that's just the spearhead. It's anti-abortion and generally anti-women's rights policies, it's about criminalising or even executing gay folk, and controlling the religious liberties of non-Christian believers as well. The fundies are at war with everyone, including fellow Christians who aren't as primitive in their beliefs.
Erica's a marvel and just too direct and knowledgeable for any creationist (or flat earther) silliness and dishonesty. Awesome stuff; everybody should help promote her and core science values. Thanks VERY much, Seth.
Absolutely love Erica, such a wonderful passionate fun person to listen to. No wonder the old boys club of pastors and preachers get all up in a tizzy.
Just putting out there into the universe, I don’t think I’ll ever NOT watch an Erika/Gutsick video. I’ll never get sick of how easily she explains stuff.
I totally agree. This kind of presentation lights me up, and it's not even my field. The thing is though, that a lot of people around us seem to struggle to keep up with such a lovely dance of ideas and information. (And in fairness, if you ever put me at the barre to demonstrate a few ballet moves, you'd either die laughing or be concerned that I'm about to injure myself. It takes all kinds.) It's true that intelligent people can hold beliefs which defy intelligent inquiry. I know of very few exceptions. It seems easier, somehow, to apply rationalization than critical analysis to a favored proposition. I guess, at heart, we all tend to believe what we want to believe. I know several very bright people who had convinced themselves that Y2K would bring about a global famine. They ended up with very large stockpiles of freeze dried beans and whatnot to work through. They're probably still searching for recipes to make this stuff palatable. But somehow religious conceits still manage to take the prize for stupidity. The prospect of global famine might be essentially unfalsifiable, but such events have happened and presumably could happen under certain conditions. So I can see how an intelligent person might be captured by the idea. But when it comes to religious claims such as creationism, I think that a very deliberate, albeit unconscious, effort has to be made to dumb down the inner conversation. These are simply not plausible ideas. Conversely, to reject evolution out of hand is to obstinately refuse to follow the data. It's enforced incuriosity and intellectual dishonesty, therefore it too ends up not looking very bright. The very best of the religious apologists still don't look very bright. And yet such apologists have a following. I can understand that fairly average people might prefer a simple but flawed narrative over a brilliant one, only because it's easier to follow. I agree with you that Erica easily explains stuff. It's easy for us, and genuinely hard to imagine that it isn't easy for everyone. But as George Carlin put it, you have to think about how dumb the average person is, and then consider that half of the population is less smart than that. Ow.
I spit out my drink laughing while I was watching a video of Aron Ra explaining that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people on it would have almost immediately died from methane gas poisoning from the animals farting and pooping!
Apparently, This is a known and serious problem industrial farming for pigs. That's why ken ham had to put in industrial-strength Air conditioning into his fake ark park.
I could not disagree more with Aron Ra. Methane gas poisoning is ridiculous. A boat that size made of wood? As soon as it was floating seams would start to open up letting in plenty of fresh air. Unfortunately, would also let in water. They would die of exposure (assuming none of the surviving animals ate them I am thinking crocodiles) while breathing God’s good fresh air.
its like when you are in a way too packed bus and some dude who is rotten from the inside lets out a nasty wet fart. how everyone scrambles to the door in pure panic😂
Maybe Buddy Bolden was on board the ark and wrote "Funky Butt" in response to the lack of ventilation. If so, his presence proves that jazz is really thousands of years older than what we have documented. It also suggests that Bolden traveled from Mt. Ararat to New Orleans! These are truly amazing connections, and we'll obviously need to bring Biblical accounts into the history of the origin of jazz.
Massive congratulations on Erika getting her doctorate. I look forward to reading her paper with relish. It will be really interesting. Great work Dr. Gibbon!
@@ucanliv4ever Um, wrong again. Scientism WOULD be a religion if a religious institution had formed around believing science on faith. Then there would be scientism churches and rituals and funny hats and tax deductions and all the rest of it. But that hasn't happened, so it's just an idea in your head.
@@sandorrabe5745 as we do for you and those other gullible people who believe there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches you every moment of every day who has a list of ten rules, ten things he does not want you to do and if you do any of these ten things he has a special place where he will send you to BURN and scream and cry for ALL eternity..... But he loves you, and needs money. Religion takes in billions of dollars and always needs a little more... Bullshit.
@@sandorrabe5745 Sorry for what? For learning something new? I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't enjoy learning more about the world. Of course if you think her explanations are inaccurate, please do describe exactly how and be sure to cite your evidence clearly.
Fun Fakt about the flood story: Another youtuber used math to calculate the strength of rain necessary to flood the entire planet in 40 days. The result was rain with the power of firetruck pressure that would have literally melted the ark and noahs family on the surface of the water.
Ah! But there the 'fountains of the deep' come into play. Obviously it wasn't just raining, no! Water was welling up from below as well! Conveniently, all those fountains of the deep are probably now hidden in places like the mariana trench or covered with silt and stuff This is an argument I actually heard somewhere. It's as if they think millions of cubic meters of water explosively erupting from somewhere won't leave a very recognizable mar on an area because it's already underwater.
This video is like a unicorn, only 21 min of Gutsick Gibbon! Gee Seth how much did you have to cut? Even GG's "low quality" videos are nothing less than 40 min.
There _are_ a handful of creationists with actual scientific doctorates from accredited universities. That said, (with maybe one exception mentioned in a creationist tier list Erika helped make) they either are demonstrable frauds making claims on creationist sites which are antithetical to their peer-reviewed publications, or speak well outside of their field in ways that are contradicted by actual experts in that subject. And then, of course, there's Kent Hovind, who maybe received a fake degree from a fake university and literally cannot explain what a dinosaur is, yet calls himself Dr. Dino.
She's awesome. It's a real pleasure (as a 75-year-old science-loving atheist) to see a younger generation stepping up and hosing down Creationist nonsense. This was my first time watching Gutsick Gibbon and it was just great!
If many English words came from French, why do people still speak French? If most Americans are descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?
My Sunday school teacher explained that God put fossils into the earth to test our faith. This helped turn a good little Christian into a Atheist. That and the bad habit of reading.
I am a Catholic but believe in women's rights, evolution, science, etc. I do not take the story-telling parts of the Bible literally. Anyway, it seems to me that teaching evolution along side creationism would backfire. Even as a child, I viewed stories like Noah's Ark to be filled with plot holes. If one insists that I have to deny evolution to follow a religion, then I am afraid the religion loses out.
There's not much left of the bible once you disregard the mythology of the ancient Hebrews. It also kind of spoils whatever remains which was based on it. Going to church then becomes a social club. My parents used to send me to Catholic church when I was at school. I asked them to let me quit because I loathed the hypocrites in the front pews. My Dad loathed them too so he said OK.
I attended 12 years of Catholic School and thank goodness they were up on all the science of the time, including evolution. It was taught in our science classes, the fantastical biblical stories were called parables, ie morality stories that are not real but teach a lesson. So when I first heard of people who believed the Bible as true facts n occurances, I about lost it. Are their really people in the 20th century that really believe these "stories" in the bible. Wow.
Once you include the Jesus myths in what you call the « story telling » , you are close to a rational understanding of it. There may have been a rabbi from Galilee preaching the end-of-the-world is nigh. (The Life of Brian suggests there were lots of them.) If there was, he may have been executed by crucifixion: the Romans enjoyed a good crucifixion. But the miracles, the resurrection you can’t have. Those didn’t happen. So now you are left with sieving out of the remaining narrative the bits you like for moral guidance. And that process seems wasteful when you can try to construct a rational ethical philosophy that is self critical.
You are roman catholic *but* you believe in women rights? Okay i get where you come from but look be honest and renounce roman catholicism. If you really love Jesus don't let them dictate how you get into a good relationship with Him; read the word of God. That is what Jesus tells us to do; study the scriptures and spread the gospel. 💟🙏
"it's so boring" I think. I've known all that basic stuff forever. Literally, I knew all of this by age ten, because I've read books and have been to school. I knew more about evolution than about French grammar. But then I remember that the USA exists. It's so sad.
if it’s so boring, you don’t need to watch, my dear. If you’ve known everything for oh so long and you don’t want to see anything interesting, then go watch something else. Go back to your MMA or whatever it is you watch.
The USA IS sad! Unfortunately for you, for historical reasons, it also serves as the foundation of freedom and Western democracy because it is still disproportionately wealthy and militarily powerful. Its wealth depends on its economic and political empire, the Pax Americana. Its military depends on the willingness of the population to pay a high level of taxes to maintain the world’s most modern armed forces, and its military bases in overseas allied nations and its fleets. . If the religious MAGA right succeeds in re-electing Donald Trump and the MAGA loyalists you could see them decline into authoritarianism pretty quick. Certainly the uberwealthy who have pursued anti-democratic policy since Nixon have positioned themselves for success. They have co-opted christians and nationalists. Working class and middle class people have been convinced to vote against their own economic and social interests. So, yes, it is easy to be an intellectual snob in secular France and sneer at the christian fundamentalists in Kentucky. But if America decides to abandon NATO & Europe, good luck with the EU and la Force de Frappe.
@@Albinojackrussel , So were many scientists before they broke away from the cult. AronRa was brought up Mormon. He’s now an atheist. Erica, I believe is agnostic. Some are now atheist, some still Christian but saw how silly it is to take the OT stories literally.
Thank you Seth for putting that together. Erica is one of the best science communicators but you produced a tight and informative presentation of her knowledge base.
Creationist claims are excuses, not reasons. They are excuses to keep believing as they want to because none of their claims are able to falsify any single idea of evolution. They are not reasons to keep believing because none of their claims describe reality. Creationist claims sound like the arguments of a child that desperately still wants to believe in Santa Claus. Any excuse that even smells like it could be remotely plausible becomes a iron clad fact!
This person is at least 10x more knowledgeable on this than I am and 100x more willing to risk headaches and deal with that strain of creationists. Great video! Respect for your sacrifice.
Lately, whenever I hear creationists claim that we were designed, I bring up how we all can, have, and do choke on our own spit, how all it takes is just a tiny bit of it to go into the wrong pipe - completely without any real reason or cause - and, to borrow from Emeril, BAM! They certainly do not appreciate my point that if this is indeed a design, it is not something a supposedly all-knowing all-powerful being would want to take credit for. They appreciate it even less when I add that an office temp with a bad attitude can come up with a better design than this.
Indeed. And a very heavy part of the skeleton, housing the most delicate a crucial organ (the brain: for most people anyway) which is supported in a fairly fragile extension of the backbone, and prone to fatal injuries from relatively minor traumas. If it is indeed design by an ‘omniscient being’, it’s shoddy work in the extreme.
We have a ticking bomb that could explode at any moment, killing us if we dont happen to be close to a specific, artifitially and many times defunded man made buildings.
Good job, you two! Erika always has the facts and show they fit together. Seth has come up with a framing mechanism to take Erika's verbose style of explanations, and pare them down to precise answers to the most common ceeationist hypothese. Erika will be the first to admit that she's a fast talker and she tends to go quickly from one subject to the next related subject. Sometimes when she is giving an explanation, she rapidly presents all of her facts with very few breaks and it can get overwhelming for some listeners. Seth's way of presenting Erika's lessons, slimmed them down and sorted them in such a way that they could be easily understood, even by people working at a less than collegiate level. The quirky music and pictures used in the framing also helped clear the palate, so to speak, to make moving on to the next section easier and more fun. As I said already, good job!
Yep! She is a fast talker alright! I'm 16 minutes in and decided 10 minutes ago I was probably going to want to rewatch this video at least 2-3 more times.
I'm a Christian theistic evolutionist. One of the things that upsets and frustrates me the most is when I get into debates with YECs and when they realize they have no legs to stand on when it comes to actually winning their arguments, because their arguments are silly and lack evidence, is that they sometimes go into a rage. Imagine them suddenly shifting into a were-ape or something... then come the threats of eternal damnation. That's not what we were talking about. We weren't even debating theology... we were debating science. One person went as far as to say they'd laugh at me from above as I was thrown into the lake of fire. One person told me not to let anyone ever convince me that I have any redeeming qualities and that I am completely worthless. I remember Richard Dawkins saying someone told him they hoped he got hit by a bus. I've also had people say misogynistic things to me about getting back into the kitchen, etc. This is not ok. That's certainly not the kind of behavior a Christian should be exhibiting. It makes me feel sad and ashamed and angry that they would behave that way and portray us so poorly. Then again there have been times of debating that made me laugh as well. There was someone who claimed to be a theistic Satanist (they actually believed that Satan created the world, apparently. They could have been making that up, but they were arguing for it, a literal devil's advocate). When this person lost the debate, they started typing some weird chant in the chat and said that he was cursing us. That was hilarious.
It's horrible that those people say these things, that's obviously not a mature way to handle disagreements. I am quite intrigued about how you're a very reasonable and capable thinker on one hand, and on the other hand _still_ believe in a supernatural deity. If you know how us humans evolved from little blobs of cells, why insert a god there? Is it the vastness of the universe that you're requiring some supernatural explanation for?
@@stickyrubb Fear of death? Although I have no idea why ceasing to exist is so scary when billions of years passed before we existed. They never worry about the latter.
I am the personality type that probably would have been an atheist to be honest with you. What kept me from it was having supernatural experiences. I don't believe this is self-delusion or mental illness because I've had them confirmed by other people. For example I would see an apparition in one location in the house. I didn't mention this to anyone and someone else asked me if I knew there was something in that same location. That was confirmation to me that there was something actually there. Whether it was a ghost or not you could argue but we had seen something there for some reason in the same place. I used to work an overnight shift at a sports store (i still work at the store, but a day shift). I was seeing a "ghost" shadow person running around but didn't say anything because I didn't want to be seen as weird and get laughed at. Then someone else started talking about it and everyone else on the crew finally felt safe to open up about what they'd been experiencing too. Apparently everyone had seen it but like me had been too afraid to open up to others about it until one person broke the ice. One night as we were putting up freight in the footwear department, there was a quite obvious ghost walking around the department that I could clearly see. I ignored it and kept on working as these things had never hurt anyone and well, I had work to do. A brand new worker on the night shift who had never experienced anything like this before came up to me terrified saying she saw a ghost and pointing right at it. She was shaking and shocked because this was all new to her. I had to calm her down, admitting that I saw it too, and that many people on the crew had, but that it had never hurt anybody, and the best thing she could do was to ignore it. Thankfully she did calm down but you could tell how shaken up she was. Another time a neighbor of ours had me and my mom go over to feed her pet cat while they were on vacation. When we opened the front door and walked in, a big ghost that looked like swirling clouds came toward us. We both saw it at the same time and it had this really heavy evil presence to it. We kind of stopped shocked and looked up at it but my mom said "come on" and we continued into the house anyway because the cat needed to be fed and we couldn't just not feed it. We had left the front door unlocked when we came in because were going to leave again soon anyway as soon as we gave the kitty its food. I looked behind me and saw the door lock itself. When we went back to it, to leave, it was actually locked. My mom was surprised by that because she had left it unlocked and I told her how I had seen it lock itself. Anyway if I hadn't had these types of experiences I wouldn't believe in the supernatural either because it's so easy to wave away things like that if you haven't seen them yourself. @@stickyrubb
Love how they point to scientific principles to disprove scientific principles. Science good when work with creationists lies but not when hindering the collection plate.
Trying to convince a creationist of evolution is like trying to walk on water. They choose to believe in lies because the truth is too difficult for them to understand!
With regards to radiometric dating, how do young earth creationists explain the age of the moon? Apollo moon rocks have recently been dated a bit more precisely and it looks like the moon was formed about 4.5 billion years ago. Asteroid samples from Bennu are about the same age. What's up with that? Did the flood reach the moon and asteroids? Is another miracle required?
Looking forward to the telemetry & data from the OSIRIS-Rx's rendezvous with asteroid Apophis (99942) for establishing a further metric . Next stop afterwards - asteroid Hovind (06452) Unique for it's resemblance to a horse's arse ...
At 11:29 you say "...give it a hundred thousand years..." . Creationists give only 6,000 years. Basically I think there is no point in arguing with a creationist apart from telling them to go back to school to study and learn the basic principles of science.
One of the great jokes - Milton Jones: "Australians don't understand evolution. I met one who thought he came from Darwin." (Technically that's Tasmania, but it was an off-the-cuff quip.)
@PintoSixty - ' Gutsick Gibbon ' has her own channel where she debunks YEC (young earth creationists) videos and printed articles. She does so in great detail (be prepared for extended videos) and with good humor.
As someone else commented Seth, you dropped the ball with only a 20 minute Erika video, her videos can run to hours 😁😂 Also where was Forrest?. but seriously an enjoyable video. cheers
You came up with the answer that explains it all; god is tricky! It all fell into place for me! I just finished watching Godless Granny on the dangerousness of creationist house speaker Mike Johnson (which featured some of your actual scientific explanations, rather than “For the Bible tells me so”; thanks to Paulogia for the jingle now stuck in my mind!), and then turned to this one. Perfect morning!
I've been trying to stop thinking of species as "transitional" because they're transitional only in retrospect. There may come a day when some future biologist refers to US as a transitional species. Archaeopteryx didn't know it was a transitional species between nonavian dinosaurs and modern birds; it simply lived. It was perfectly adapted to its ecological niche. Homo erectus didn't stop and think, "We're merely a transitional species on the way to one with much bigger brains. And when they come along, we'll be extinct. It's SO depressing. I'm having an existential crisis. I'm just going to sit under this tree and sulk."
The problem I have with all the Abrahamic religions is that their god is all knowing ,all powerfull and all mighty who created everything in the universe ...except atheism.
@nathanwhite704 conman tRump said he wanted to be a dictator for one day but being him he's lying and will make himself dictator for what's left of his life.
Can we have Ericka please school our new Speaker of the House because he is a YEC and thinks the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter are facts and truth. Please?
I love GG's shirt. I first read about Jane Goodall (in Childcraft books) back in the 1975/6 time frame, and loved her from the start. I'm really glad she's still with us & folks know her work - and can continue her work with primates.
All life is transitional. We are in a constant state of evolving. Evolution has no goal, no finishing point. The present is just a point in forever so there is no such thing as quickly or nearing an end or far from a beginning. All fossils, all skeletons are transitional.
I wish the the creationist claims were also spoken aloud instead of just written, this is it the kind of content I like to listen to while doing things that preclude watching the video.
“No beneficial mutations?” How about the relatively recent mutation(s) that allowed certain cow-owning populations of humans to digest lactose into adulthood?
Another one they use sometimes is "According to evolution, organisms gain information as they evolve. Here we have an example (of a flightless bird) that has lost information, therefore evolution is false." What they fail to see is that they've just admitted that that organism has changed. i.e. evolved. And the theory of evolution we have does not say that evolution is about gaining information but changing an organism to best suit the environment it finds itself in. If losing information (or attributes I think they mean) will make the organism best suited for its environment, then that will happen. What a mistaka to maka.
Exactly - reptiles, birds, mammals and insects almost exclusively lack gills. Maybe entirely, I only did high school science, and it was nearly 50 yrs ago.
I love that she is able to answer, with great specificity, the ridiculous claims of creationists! This should be required viewing is every school science class, especially in the bible belt. Also, that display in the Creation Museum of the young human alongside (what appears to be) some raptor species from the Jurassic Period is uproariously funny -- because if such a thing could have existed, that young lady would have been the raptor's next meal.
Another problem with the common design argument is that it's unfalsifiable. The Designer could have mixed and Matched features in any way possible, so anything could fit into the design model. If you can't test it with the possibility of falsifying it, it's not science.
Yeah, but the fact that you _don't_ see _any_ of that mix-and-match means that the Designer(s) (try asking IDers to proving there's not multiple equally powerful Designers if you want to see whether they're crypto-Creationists or Ancient Alieners) decided to act _as if_ the only mechanisms in operation were genealogical descent plus bacterial gene-swapping plus viral insertion. We can ask why Designers would constrain themselves that way, and use that to put bounds on the possible means and/or motives available.
Next you’re going to be telling us that thermodynamics means that Santa Claus, his sleigh and reindeer would burst into flames if they thrived to going everywhere on earth in a day. ;-)
@@babotond There is a long physics telling of the journey of Santa Claus where they calculate the radiant energy of Santa and his sleigh based on thermodynamic calculations..... You wouldn't want to be near, -you'ld be roasted; or even fairly far - you'ld be blinded by the light. In a small fraction of a second they would all be turned to plasma.
I loathe that "no transitional fossils" argument. EVERY species is a transitional species. That's how evolution works. Given enough time, one species will become a different species. We're ALL in transition. Sorry...that one just drives me crazy. And I get what they mean. "There are no fossils showing some form that's midway between one form and another", but that's a whole other level of silly. The only people that think that are people that just haven't looked for the data AT ALL. There are TONS of those. Tiktaalik, archaeopteryx, ambulocetus, homoerectus...I'm a dumbass that isn't even a biologist--or even a scientist of any kind--and I can spit out a list of 'em. It's maddening...
@@daveblock You didn't address the point. Why does the designer use different DNA for the same essential body plan if the designer tends to use similar DNA according to Creationist's own arguments?
@@Templetonq Humans are not intelligent enough to understand how life is created…..we can sort of see some things but the more that’s learned the further we get from understanding. You might as well ask how the universe was created.
@@daveblock If that's your attitude, why bother discussing anything at all? What are you doing on YT? You just said the answer was simple! Or do things suddenly become too hard when the questions become inconvenient? We understand DNA well enough to address my question, which was a RESONSE to a creationist claim.
She would define a good argument for reviving the science of Phrenology. New conspiracy hack: Mike Johnson is a cross-cloning of Henry Morris & Bob Wilkins ...
It is remarkably stupid, if you believe in an *_intelligent_* Creator, to think him as stupid as the difference between Natural Selection and individually creating every animal, plant, fungus, and disease organism. The Creator of the nature of Nature, if he intended the existence of what we call Life, is a bungling nincompoop *_IF_* he has to create Life by Super-natural means, It should be Anathema to believe that the scribes who wrote Genesis, or the Babylonian ones who had earlier versions of the Flood story, were anything but ignorant of what Linnaeus, even before Darwin, realised about the relatedness of the Great Apes.
The reason Catholics aren't supposed to fall for this line of Creationist fantasy is that Galileo beat up the Pope so badly over a sun-centered universe they know better. Father Teilhard de Chardin wrote how Catholics are supposed to regard evolution and the Abbé Breuil pretty much called the 4,000 yo universe a lie.
@@WillPhil290Yeah, I may incorporate that word into my usually very dumbed down explanation of a simple concept. Maybe it will encourage them to look it up… Probably not
17:33 It always reminds me of Paulogia when I see "The Bible tells me so". For the Bible tells me so (music). He uses this little jingle when pointing out that something is sourced from only one book in the Bible and can't be found anywhere else.
Considering transitionals. Whenever we find a new transitional fossil,they claim there is no transitional to the next stage. Basically they are claiming that you can't go from zero to one. Mathematically you cannot, for the fractions between zero and one are infinite, You can always cut a smaller fraction off. Practically, however, there is no difference between one and 0.9999999999...
Thank you for this. Erika is a phenomenal young modern ape... we are lucky to have her.
You call this lady an ape, and mean it as a complement. Would you say this to the lady of your dreams, on the third date, trying to steal a kiss from her at the porch of her parent's house? Go wash your mouth young man!
One might even say sh'e a Great Ape!
This was brilliant. I FEEL smarter by watching it. It also makes so much sense.
I admire the way Erika explains what`s wrong with creationists claims so easily and with so much fun that everyone can understand.
i can easily beat her on any arguments she just claim face to face...atheist are so easily to impress....
Yet creationists won’t understand it.
if you want to be descandant from a monkey it is up to you but i prefer to be more valuable than that and descend from another human being!@@TheDizzleHawke
The biggest creationist claim is that they are right and EVERYONE ELSE is wrong.
Wolves two dogs is de evolution.
Example - isle dog, coyotes, foxes and Jack coals de send from prehistoric wolves,but witch breed has buy de part ore features Prehistoric wolves are Ms. Sing?
De an sir is none bee cause de changes comes from losing genetic information 👇
Foxes (preserved) prehistoric wolves large fluff fee tell,But day (lost) de large size.
Great dames (preserved) prehistoric wolves large size (most Lee) but day (lost) de large fluff fee tell.
Pugs lost every thing. Pugs lost de long snout, Long ears, long legs, and large fluff fee tell.
Diss is de causes of de varieties,knot evolution. Losing features is slow Lee dissolving knot evolving.
A Evolutionist wood say," look at de pug indie fox. De fox evolved a large fluff fee tell,but de pug did ant. Environment pressures caused dim two evolve different Lee." Foxes did ant evolve that tell,it's a preserved feature from prehistoric wolves. Pugs and foxes De-evolved different Lee from prehistoric wolves.
De monk key question is much deeper. Hue men's are here,monk keys are here,but none of de thousands of transactional half bipedal apes did ant survive until modern times.isle so, if any moles branch off inn two moe tea bowl creature,why dew it stop during de in-between stages? Should ant half bipedal apes have branches two? Why is their a dye reck line from none bipedal apes two hue men's width out branches? De half bipedal apes should have branched off inn two other bipedal any moles like yeti's.
Erika said, a mutate width that gives a any moles a advantage takes over de population,but that's knot true.
Example - if a deer was born width 30 purr cent speed increase,that gives it a higher chance of taking over de population,but theirs a problem width diss bee leaf. 90 purr cent of any moles dye during childhood,So de mutate is ant beneficial until it reaches adult hood. Meaning isle other deer wheel reach adult at de same time,So it does ant give dim a reproduction advantage. A lot Moore problems width diss bee leaf, but it wood take a lot of typing.
The problem with a statement like, "young earth Creationism is ok so long as it isn't taught in public schools," is that this is only part of the problem. Politicians with creationist notions rise to power, and propose and implement policies based on unstated ideological perspectives, which can be concealed in political or pseudoscientific prattle. It's dangerous from any perspective.
Well said.
When they bring that tripe into a class room or school boards, or politics. That noise can slow the world down and has.
Vote.?
Exactly, a large chunk of climate change deniers seem to believe that 'only God can influence/change the climate', or 'who cares if the earth's warming, Jesus is coming to fetch us' etc.
@@qzh00k Agreed, still it's more than creationism, that's just the spearhead. It's anti-abortion and generally anti-women's rights policies, it's about criminalising or even executing gay folk, and controlling the religious liberties of non-Christian believers as well. The fundies are at war with everyone, including fellow Christians who aren't as primitive in their beliefs.
The two topics that are taboo in ordinary conversation - religion and politics - are the two topics where stupidity rises unchecked
Getting kicked out of sunday school at 6 years old for continuesly questioning Noahs flood story plot holes is a badge of honor for me.. 😂😂
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Yeah, they really don`t like questions in faith. Wonder why...
@@raya.p.l5919not in my experience
@@raya.p.l5919 Not You again.. why do you keep trolling atheists? You only make us more annoyed and angry..
@@sarahchristine2345 😄
Erica's a marvel and just too direct and knowledgeable for
any creationist (or flat earther) silliness and dishonesty.
Awesome stuff; everybody should help promote her and
core science values. Thanks VERY much, Seth.
...that's if the creationist debates fairly. Lots of times, they only squawk a Bible verse and run away.
Absolutely love Erica, such a wonderful passionate fun person to listen to. No wonder the old boys club of pastors and preachers get all up in a tizzy.
Just putting out there into the universe, I don’t think I’ll ever NOT watch an Erika/Gutsick video. I’ll never get sick of how easily she explains stuff.
Indeed that’s a gift from god. ;)
@@pansepot1490 God said “ugh I’m sick and tired of these YECs, what to do, what to do… Oh! I’ll finally use my secret weapon: Erika Gutsick Gibbon!!!”
She's awesome, one of my favorite people on youtube
I totally agree. This kind of presentation lights me up, and it's not even my field.
The thing is though, that a lot of people around us seem to struggle to keep up with such a lovely dance of ideas and information. (And in fairness, if you ever put me at the barre to demonstrate a few ballet moves, you'd either die laughing or be concerned that I'm about to injure myself. It takes all kinds.)
It's true that intelligent people can hold beliefs which defy intelligent inquiry. I know of very few exceptions. It seems easier, somehow, to apply rationalization than critical analysis to a favored proposition. I guess, at heart, we all tend to believe what we want to believe. I know several very bright people who had convinced themselves that Y2K would bring about a global famine. They ended up with very large stockpiles of freeze dried beans and whatnot to work through. They're probably still searching for recipes to make this stuff palatable.
But somehow religious conceits still manage to take the prize for stupidity. The prospect of global famine might be essentially unfalsifiable, but such events have happened and presumably could happen under certain conditions. So I can see how an intelligent person might be captured by the idea.
But when it comes to religious claims such as creationism, I think that a very deliberate, albeit unconscious, effort has to be made to dumb down the inner conversation. These are simply not plausible ideas. Conversely, to reject evolution out of hand is to obstinately refuse to follow the data. It's enforced incuriosity and intellectual dishonesty, therefore it too ends up not looking very bright. The very best of the religious apologists still don't look very bright.
And yet such apologists have a following. I can understand that fairly average people might prefer a simple but flawed narrative over a brilliant one, only because it's easier to follow. I agree with you that Erica easily explains stuff. It's easy for us, and genuinely hard to imagine that it isn't easy for everyone. But as George Carlin put it, you have to think about how dumb the average person is, and then consider that half of the population is less smart than that. Ow.
Yeeee! Whenever she and Forrest are hosting SkepTalk together, I make damn sure I catch it. They're the best
I spit out my drink laughing while I was watching a video of Aron Ra explaining that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people on it would have almost immediately died from methane gas poisoning from the animals farting and pooping!
Apparently, This is a known and serious problem industrial farming for pigs. That's why ken ham had to put in industrial-strength Air conditioning into his fake ark park.
Lol, but when did logic, physics, laws of the natural world EVER matter to one of these bloviating liars.
I could not disagree more with Aron Ra. Methane gas poisoning is ridiculous. A boat that size made of wood? As soon as it was floating seams would start to open up letting in plenty of fresh air. Unfortunately, would also let in water. They would die of exposure (assuming none of the surviving animals ate them I am thinking crocodiles) while breathing God’s good fresh air.
its like when you are in a way too packed bus and some dude who is rotten from the inside lets out a nasty wet fart. how everyone scrambles to the door in pure panic😂
Maybe Buddy Bolden was on board the ark and wrote "Funky Butt" in response to the lack of ventilation. If so, his presence proves that jazz is really thousands of years older than what we have documented. It also suggests that Bolden traveled from Mt. Ararat to New Orleans! These are truly amazing connections, and we'll obviously need to bring Biblical accounts into the history of the origin of jazz.
Massive congratulations on Erika getting her doctorate. I look forward to reading her paper with relish. It will be really interesting.
Great work Dr. Gibbon!
OMG, I didn't know that! Congratulations Erika!
Two of my favourite creators. Thank you so much 😁
Wow, Erica in her element, awesome video.
The second someone calls you an evolutionist you should immediately called them a magicist.
Not related, but i noticed calling them Paulists make them livid.
Or, just say, "Thank you."
Scientism is a religion
@@ucanliv4ever that no one believes in
@@ucanliv4ever
Um, wrong again. Scientism WOULD be a religion if a religious institution had formed around believing science on faith. Then there would be scientism churches and rituals and funny hats and tax deductions and all the rest of it.
But that hasn't happened, so it's just an idea in your head.
I always feel smarter after listening to a Gutsick Gibbon presentation. Thanks.
I feel so sorry for you
@sandorrabe5745 save your faux sympathy ya cheap internet troll
@@sandorrabe5745 as we do for you and those other gullible people who believe there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches you every moment of every day who has a list of ten rules, ten things he does not want you to do and if you do any of these ten things he has a special place where he will send you to BURN and scream and cry for ALL eternity..... But he loves you, and needs money. Religion takes in billions of dollars and always needs a little more... Bullshit.
@@sandorrabe5745 Sorry for what? For learning something new? I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't enjoy learning more about the world.
Of course if you think her explanations are inaccurate, please do describe exactly how and be sure to cite your evidence clearly.
Rich wood, for one thing wolves can mate with dogs and produce offspring...duh
And there is a Speaker of the House of Representatives in the US Congress that is a young earth creationist. Oh dear.
Nothing new there. Any previous republican speaker either believed the same or behaved indistinguishably
Amen!
He's no mere YEC. He's a frickin' board member of Ray "Bananaman" Comfort's publishing house, Living Waters.
@@preflex3502 AND apparently heavily involved with Ken Hams AiG
God help us.
Fun Fakt about the flood story:
Another youtuber used math to calculate the strength of rain necessary to flood the entire planet in 40 days. The result was rain with the power of firetruck pressure that would have literally melted the ark and noahs family on the surface of the water.
Ah! But there the 'fountains of the deep' come into play. Obviously it wasn't just raining, no! Water was welling up from below as well! Conveniently, all those fountains of the deep are probably now hidden in places like the mariana trench or covered with silt and stuff
This is an argument I actually heard somewhere. It's as if they think millions of cubic meters of water explosively erupting from somewhere won't leave a very recognizable mar on an area because it's already underwater.
@@gerritvalkering1068They literally don't know how anything actually works, so when backed into a corner their only answer is "becuz magic?"
@@raya.p.l5919 Get help.
And then where would the _billions_ of cubic kilometers of water come from ... or go to?
But the Bible says. . .
Terrific episode! Love seeing Erika, of course, but you both have made actual science learning accessible and even FUN. Great job!
If women came from a man's rib, why do men still have ribs?
When I was a kid someone actually told me that men have one less rib than women...
@@simonkoster Is it worse when you just assumed that unskeptically by yourself?
(I took Genesis as a 'just so' fable.)
@@Vadjong Hadn't given it any thought until then (being 6-ish) but I remember some vague sense of "Doesn't feel right".
That's because we have spare ribs.
They're delicious,btw.
We don't, nobody's ever seen a man's rib, it's a conspiracy
Anything including Erika is surely worth watching. Thanks.
If furniture is made of wood, why there are still forests around?
This video is like a unicorn, only 21 min of Gutsick Gibbon! Gee Seth how much did you have to cut? Even GG's "low quality" videos are nothing less than 40 min.
Weird how people as educated as Erica are never creationists.
There _are_ a handful of creationists with actual scientific doctorates from accredited universities.
That said, (with maybe one exception mentioned in a creationist tier list Erika helped make) they either are demonstrable frauds making claims on creationist sites which are antithetical to their peer-reviewed publications, or speak well outside of their field in ways that are contradicted by actual experts in that subject.
And then, of course, there's Kent Hovind, who maybe received a fake degree from a fake university and literally cannot explain what a dinosaur is, yet calls himself Dr. Dino.
Education doesn't mean a lot. Understanding is what matters.
She’s so great at presenting - full of energy and clarity.
I think she said more words, intelligently so, in this one video then I have said in the past year.
She's awesome. It's a real pleasure (as a 75-year-old science-loving atheist) to see a younger generation stepping up and hosing down Creationist nonsense. This was my first time watching Gutsick Gibbon and it was just great!
ALL FOSSILS are transitional!
If you're a descendant of your grandfather, why do you have cousins? Same argument.
Yes, and just imagine if she has a cousin that is 6'4" tall and a redhead.
If many English words came from French, why do people still speak French?
If most Americans are descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?
My Sunday school teacher explained that God put fossils into the earth to test our faith. This helped turn a good little Christian into a Atheist. That and the bad habit of reading.
If humans came from clay, dirt, or ribs, then why is there still clay, dirt, and ribs?
Ericka's example of thicker furred wolves made me think. If the thicker hair is curly, do they become wool-ves? 😀
Wolves in sheep's clothing.
😐 you can see yourself out now
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😐 you can see yourself out now
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If we came from Dirt, Why is there still Dirt? Just asking.
😂 exactly
dirt is fake
And if we came from a 6,000 year old Earth, then why is there still a 6,000 year old Earth?
If I came from Mom, why is there still Mom?
Because Alice and Chains made it peak at number 6 on the billboard charts so there are a lot of copies.
I am a Catholic but believe in women's rights, evolution, science, etc. I do not take the story-telling parts of the Bible literally. Anyway, it seems to me that teaching evolution along side creationism would backfire. Even as a child, I viewed stories like Noah's Ark to be filled with plot holes. If one insists that I have to deny evolution to follow a religion, then I am afraid the religion loses out.
There's not much left of the bible once you disregard the mythology of the ancient Hebrews. It also kind of spoils whatever remains which was based on it. Going to church then becomes a social club. My parents used to send me to Catholic church when I was at school. I asked them to let me quit because I loathed the hypocrites in the front pews. My Dad loathed them too so he said OK.
I attended 12 years of Catholic School and thank goodness they were up on all the science of the time, including evolution. It was taught in our science classes, the fantastical biblical stories were called parables, ie morality stories that are not real but teach a lesson.
So when I first heard of people who believed the Bible as true facts n occurances, I about lost it. Are their really people in the 20th century that really believe these "stories" in the bible. Wow.
Once you include the Jesus myths in what you call the « story telling » , you are close to a rational understanding of it. There may have been a rabbi from Galilee preaching the end-of-the-world is nigh. (The Life of Brian suggests there were lots of them.) If there was, he may have been executed by crucifixion: the Romans enjoyed a good crucifixion. But the miracles, the resurrection you can’t have. Those didn’t happen. So now you are left with sieving out of the remaining narrative the bits you like for moral guidance. And that process seems wasteful when you can try to construct a rational ethical philosophy that is self critical.
You are roman catholic *but* you believe in women rights? Okay i get where you come from but look be honest and renounce roman catholicism. If you really love Jesus don't let them dictate how you get into a good relationship with Him; read the word of God. That is what Jesus tells us to do; study the scriptures and spread the gospel. 💟🙏
@@Simon.the.Likeable Simon don't you believe anymore? How was your relationship with Jesus before you became disillusioned?
"it's so boring" I think. I've known all that basic stuff forever. Literally, I knew all of this by age ten, because I've read books and have been to school. I knew more about evolution than about French grammar. But then I remember that the USA exists. It's so sad.
In the USA, we have the best of the best, and the worst of the worst.
Unfortunately, in America, the worst of the worst is winning. I give it 18 years.
if it’s so boring, you don’t need to watch, my dear. If you’ve known everything for oh so long and you don’t want to see anything interesting, then go watch something else. Go back to your MMA or whatever it is you watch.
@@thunderousapplause > You literally missed the entire point.
The USA IS sad! Unfortunately for you, for historical reasons, it also serves as the foundation of freedom and Western democracy because it is still disproportionately wealthy and militarily powerful. Its wealth depends on its economic and political empire, the Pax Americana. Its military depends on the willingness of the population to pay a high level of taxes to maintain the world’s most modern armed forces, and its military bases in overseas allied nations and its fleets. . If the religious MAGA right succeeds in re-electing Donald Trump and the MAGA loyalists you could see them decline into authoritarianism pretty quick. Certainly the uberwealthy who have pursued anti-democratic policy since Nixon have positioned themselves for success. They have co-opted christians and nationalists. Working class and middle class people have been convinced to vote against their own economic and social interests.
So, yes, it is easy to be an intellectual snob in secular France and sneer at the christian fundamentalists in Kentucky. But if America decides to abandon NATO & Europe, good luck with the EU and la Force de Frappe.
Wow, its almost like creationism is incredibly silly and has no factual basis other than the earth exists.
The problem here is that creationists don’t have a clue of what she’s talking about.
You know that Erica once was a young earth creationist right?
@@Albinojackrussel , So were many scientists before they broke away from the cult. AronRa was brought up Mormon. He’s now an atheist. Erica, I believe is agnostic. Some are now atheist, some still Christian but saw how silly it is to take the OT stories literally.
@@davidgardner863 so you can see how content like this can be very useful for young earth creationists then?
@@Albinojackrussel , If they can understand it.
The great tragedy is that these “arguments” are going to continue to be used by creationists no matter how many times they are debunked.
Yep. It's called "Preaching to the Choir".
Thank you Seth for putting that together. Erica is one of the best science communicators but you produced a tight and informative presentation of her knowledge base.
Creationist claims are excuses, not reasons. They are excuses to keep believing as they want to because none of their claims are able to falsify any single idea of evolution. They are not reasons to keep believing because none of their claims describe reality. Creationist claims sound like the arguments of a child that desperately still wants to believe in Santa Claus. Any excuse that even smells like it could be remotely plausible becomes a iron clad fact!
This person is at least 10x more knowledgeable on this than I am and 100x more willing to risk headaches and deal with that strain of creationists.
Great video! Respect for your sacrifice.
Science is hard with so much to learn, faith not so much.
Lately, whenever I hear creationists claim that we were designed, I bring up how we all can, have, and do choke on our own spit, how all it takes is just a tiny bit of it to go into the wrong pipe - completely without any real reason or cause - and, to borrow from Emeril, BAM!
They certainly do not appreciate my point that if this is indeed a design, it is not something a supposedly all-knowing all-powerful being would want to take credit for. They appreciate it even less when I add that an office temp with a bad attitude can come up with a better design than this.
Indeed. And a very heavy part of the skeleton, housing the most delicate a crucial organ (the brain: for most people anyway) which is supported in a fairly fragile extension of the backbone, and prone to fatal injuries from relatively minor traumas. If it is indeed design by an ‘omniscient being’, it’s shoddy work in the extreme.
Sewage plant running through the middle of an amusement park.
We have a ticking bomb that could explode at any moment, killing us if we dont happen to be close to a specific, artifitially and many times defunded man made buildings.
Well He could have designed us so that our mouths were immediately next to our anuses; that would have been so much more convenient
@@sandorrabe5745 It would certainly show how creationists can only talk sh^t.
Good job, you two! Erika always has the facts and show they fit together. Seth has come up with a framing mechanism to take Erika's verbose style of explanations, and pare them down to precise answers to the most common ceeationist hypothese.
Erika will be the first to admit that she's a fast talker and she tends to go quickly from one subject to the next related subject. Sometimes when she is giving an explanation, she rapidly presents all of her facts with very few breaks and it can get overwhelming for some listeners. Seth's way of presenting Erika's lessons, slimmed them down and sorted them in such a way that they could be easily understood, even by people working at a less than collegiate level.
The quirky music and pictures used in the framing also helped clear the palate, so to speak, to make moving on to the next section easier and more fun.
As I said already, good job!
Yep! She is a fast talker alright! I'm 16 minutes in and decided 10 minutes ago I was probably going to want to rewatch this video at least 2-3 more times.
True.
Of course that's why UA-cam evolved a 0.75% playback speed button.
I use it all the time.
@@tw9535 😲 never thought of that. I just use it to speed up slow talkers, like Dr. Sledge from Esoterica. Thanks 😊
I'm a Christian theistic evolutionist. One of the things that upsets and frustrates me the most is when I get into debates with YECs and when they realize they have no legs to stand on when it comes to actually winning their arguments, because their arguments are silly and lack evidence, is that they sometimes go into a rage.
Imagine them suddenly shifting into a were-ape or something... then come the threats of eternal damnation. That's not what we were talking about. We weren't even debating theology... we were debating science. One person went as far as to say they'd laugh at me from above as I was thrown into the lake of fire. One person told me not to let anyone ever convince me that I have any redeeming qualities and that I am completely worthless.
I remember Richard Dawkins saying someone told him they hoped he got hit by a bus.
I've also had people say misogynistic things to me about getting back into the kitchen, etc.
This is not ok. That's certainly not the kind of behavior a Christian should be exhibiting.
It makes me feel sad and ashamed and angry that they would behave that way and portray us so poorly.
Then again there have been times of debating that made me laugh as well. There was someone who claimed to be a theistic Satanist (they actually believed that Satan created the world, apparently. They could have been making that up, but they were arguing for it, a literal devil's advocate). When this person lost the debate, they started typing some weird chant in the chat and said that he was cursing us.
That was hilarious.
The two simply don't align.
@@rimbusjift7575 agreed
I think it’s a matter of time before one has to cherry pick beliefs in order to stay Christian
It's horrible that those people say these things, that's obviously not a mature way to handle disagreements.
I am quite intrigued about how you're a very reasonable and capable thinker on one hand, and on the other hand _still_ believe in a supernatural deity. If you know how us humans evolved from little blobs of cells, why insert a god there? Is it the vastness of the universe that you're requiring some supernatural explanation for?
@@stickyrubb Fear of death? Although I have no idea why ceasing to exist is so scary when billions of years passed before we existed. They never worry about the latter.
I am the personality type that probably would have been an atheist to be honest with you. What kept me from it was having supernatural experiences.
I don't believe this is self-delusion or mental illness because I've had them confirmed by other people.
For example I would see an apparition in one location in the house. I didn't mention this to anyone and someone else asked me if I knew there was something in that same location. That was confirmation to me that there was something actually there. Whether it was a ghost or not you could argue but we had seen something there for some reason in the same place.
I used to work an overnight shift at a sports store (i still work at the store, but a day shift). I was seeing a "ghost" shadow person running around but didn't say anything because I didn't want to be seen as weird and get laughed at.
Then someone else started talking about it and everyone else on the crew finally felt safe to open up about what they'd been experiencing too. Apparently everyone had seen it but like me had been too afraid to open up to others about it until one person broke the ice.
One night as we were putting up freight in the footwear department, there was a quite obvious ghost walking around the department that I could clearly see. I ignored it and kept on working as these things had never hurt anyone and well, I had work to do.
A brand new worker on the night shift who had never experienced anything like this before came up to me terrified saying she saw a ghost and pointing right at it. She was shaking and shocked because this was all new to her.
I had to calm her down, admitting that I saw it too, and that many people on the crew had, but that it had never hurt anybody, and the best thing she could do was to ignore it. Thankfully she did calm down but you could tell how shaken up she was.
Another time a neighbor of ours had me and my mom go over to feed her pet cat while they were on vacation.
When we opened the front door and walked in, a big ghost that looked like swirling clouds came toward us. We both saw it at the same time and it had this really heavy evil presence to it. We kind of stopped shocked and looked up at it but my mom said "come on" and we continued into the house anyway because the cat needed to be fed and we couldn't just not feed it.
We had left the front door unlocked when we came in because were going to leave again soon anyway as soon as we gave the kitty its food. I looked behind me and saw the door lock itself. When we went back to it, to leave, it was actually locked. My mom was surprised by that because she had left it unlocked and I told her how I had seen it lock itself.
Anyway if I hadn't had these types of experiences I wouldn't believe in the supernatural either because it's so easy to wave away things like that if you haven't seen them yourself.
@@stickyrubb
How is Christian Science an actual term that exist?
What could Christian Science possibly be about?
The study of Miracles and Curses???
We could thank the creation crowd for helping create more atheists but the irony would escape them.
It's good they keep talking
That's a bit like the irony of so many people becoming secular after reading the Bible.
Science wins every time
GG, you are brilliant and make things very easy to understand. Thank you.
Creationists' brains are smoother.
Until we're talking about the last representative of an extinct species, isn't everyone a "transitional form?"
Yes.
Good point.
Creationists really should stay away from science, they're just not good at it.
Excellent video. Make more in this style. It's exactly what my non-scientific ADHD brain needs.
I'm a Christian but creationism is crazy. If the Earth is 6000 years old where did all the coal and oil come from?
if we came from clay why is there still clay?
Write that on a T-Shirt, NOW.
Love how they point to scientific principles to disprove scientific principles. Science good when work with creationists lies but not when hindering the collection plate.
That sweet sweet tax free money
Trying to convince a creationist of evolution is like trying to walk on water. They choose to believe in lies because the truth is too difficult for them to understand!
because believing in evolution is believing in mortality
With regards to radiometric dating, how do young earth creationists explain the age of the moon? Apollo moon rocks have recently been dated a bit more precisely and it looks like the moon was formed about 4.5 billion years ago. Asteroid samples from Bennu are about the same age. What's up with that? Did the flood reach the moon and asteroids? Is another miracle required?
Looking forward to the telemetry & data from the OSIRIS-Rx's rendezvous with asteroid Apophis (99942) for establishing a further metric
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Next stop afterwards - asteroid Hovind (06452) Unique for it's resemblance to a horse's arse ...
At 11:29 you say "...give it a hundred thousand years..." . Creationists give only 6,000 years. Basically I think there is no point in arguing with a creationist apart from telling them to go back to school to study and learn the basic principles of science.
One of the great jokes - Milton Jones: "Australians don't understand evolution. I met one who thought he came from Darwin." (Technically that's Tasmania, but it was an off-the-cuff quip.)
If the earth is only 6-10k years old...
Why can we see the Andromeda galaxy?
Have her on more often, please!
@PintoSixty - ' Gutsick Gibbon ' has her own channel where she debunks YEC (young earth creationists) videos and printed articles. She does so in great detail (be prepared for extended videos) and with good humor.
This is probably one of the succinct and informative video i have seen on the subject.
As someone else commented Seth, you dropped the ball with only a 20 minute Erika video, her videos can run to hours 😁😂 Also where was Forrest?. but seriously an enjoyable video. cheers
But Erika, have you considered... A?
She’s pretty awesome! A plethora of information!
If cheeseburgers came from hamburgers then why are there still hamburgers?
You came up with the answer that explains it all; god is tricky! It all fell into place for me! I just finished watching Godless Granny on the dangerousness of creationist house speaker Mike Johnson (which featured some of your actual scientific explanations, rather than “For the Bible tells me so”; thanks to Paulogia for the jingle now stuck in my mind!), and then turned to this one. Perfect morning!
Every time I hear or read "the Bible tells me so," the Paulogia music starts in my head. It makes me smile every time.
Which of your gods is tricky, exactly? Do you know what god you are talking about? Do you claim to know God?
@@sandorrabe5745 That's an excellent question to ask the creationists who are proposing it.
@@kelliepatrick519 i am asking jeanne marie. Shall we deal with the questions in the order they come in?
@@sandorrabe5745I think you need to re-read the post and actually read it this time, because you seem to have severely misunderstood the comment.
I've been trying to stop thinking of species as "transitional" because they're transitional only in retrospect. There may come a day when some future biologist refers to US as a transitional species. Archaeopteryx didn't know it was a transitional species between nonavian dinosaurs and modern birds; it simply lived. It was perfectly adapted to its ecological niche. Homo erectus didn't stop and think, "We're merely a transitional species on the way to one with much bigger brains. And when they come along, we'll be extinct. It's SO depressing. I'm having an existential crisis. I'm just going to sit under this tree and sulk."
Erika's breadth of knowledge astounds me. Glad my background allows me to follow her (mostly). "Yeah, duh!" 😊
The problem I have with all the Abrahamic religions is that their god is all knowing ,all powerfull and all mighty who created everything in the universe ...except atheism.
If humans evovled with intellegence - where did MAGA come from?
From not wanting the US to be the next Venezuela.
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MAGA wants the US to run by trump the dictator for life.
@@michaellayton7373 CNN says it so it must be true. Where's the evidence for your claim?
@nathanwhite704 conman tRump said he wanted to be a dictator for one day but being him he's lying and will make himself dictator for what's left of his life.
@@stefansmith4313he never said that you liar.
Can we have Ericka please school our new Speaker of the House because he is a YEC and thinks the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter are facts and truth. Please?
Oh sure you use rational thinking and evidence to make your point but what about my neighbor who saw Jesus in his backyard making fish and wine?
I love GG's shirt. I first read about Jane Goodall (in Childcraft books) back in the 1975/6 time frame, and loved her from the start. I'm really glad she's still with us & folks know her work - and can continue her work with primates.
Once again Erika calmly and devastatingly demolishes the nonsensical creationist arguments.
All the claims creationists make are easy to debunk.
All life is transitional. We are in a constant state of evolving. Evolution has no goal, no finishing point. The present is just a point in forever so there is no such thing as quickly or nearing an end or far from a beginning. All fossils, all skeletons are transitional.
I wish the the creationist claims were also spoken aloud instead of just written, this is it the kind of content I like to listen to while doing things that preclude watching the video.
OMG! Am I the only person with a huge crush on Erika? I could listen to her for hours! What an attractive intellect. 😊
I assume her husband has one, so including you and me, that makes at least 3 of us XD
“No beneficial mutations?”
How about the relatively recent mutation(s) that allowed certain cow-owning populations of humans to digest lactose into adulthood?
She's quoting that sentence as a creationist argument.
Another one they use sometimes is "According to evolution, organisms gain information as they evolve. Here we have an example (of a flightless bird) that has lost information, therefore evolution is false."
What they fail to see is that they've just admitted that that organism has changed. i.e. evolved. And the theory of evolution we have does not say that evolution is about gaining information but changing an organism to best suit the environment it finds itself in. If losing information (or attributes I think they mean) will make the organism best suited for its environment, then that will happen.
What a mistaka to maka.
Exactly - reptiles, birds, mammals and insects almost exclusively lack gills. Maybe entirely, I only did high school science, and it was nearly 50 yrs ago.
Post comp Erica is looking very calm and relaxed!
I love that she is able to answer, with great specificity, the ridiculous claims of creationists! This should be required viewing is every school science class, especially in the bible belt. Also, that display in the Creation Museum of the young human alongside (what appears to be) some raptor species from the Jurassic Period is uproariously funny -- because if such a thing could have existed, that young lady would have been the raptor's next meal.
Brilliant as usual and expected lady Gibbon. Love all your videos.
If man came from dust, why is there still dust?
Great video! What an entertaining and insanely educational Q & A session. Erika is brilliant. ❤
Another problem with the common design argument is that it's unfalsifiable. The Designer could have mixed and Matched features in any way possible, so anything could fit into the design model. If you can't test it with the possibility of falsifying it, it's not science.
Yeah, but the fact that you _don't_ see _any_ of that mix-and-match means that the Designer(s) (try asking IDers to proving there's not multiple equally powerful Designers if you want to see whether they're crypto-Creationists or Ancient Alieners) decided to act _as if_ the only mechanisms in operation were genealogical descent plus bacterial gene-swapping plus viral insertion. We can ask why Designers would constrain themselves that way, and use that to put bounds on the possible means and/or motives available.
maybe Noahs Ark was fire-proof? 🤣🤣🤣
Next you’re going to be telling us that thermodynamics means that Santa Claus, his sleigh and reindeer would burst into flames if they thrived to going everywhere on earth in a day. ;-)
are you saying they wouldn't?
or just . . . ?
@@babotond There is a long physics telling of the journey of Santa Claus where they calculate the radiant energy of Santa and his sleigh based on thermodynamic calculations..... You wouldn't want to be near, -you'ld be roasted; or even fairly far - you'ld be blinded by the light. In a small fraction of a second they would all be turned to plasma.
@@tunneloflight dope.
So Santa is not real?
@@babotond Sure he is. He lives with his reindeer on Noah's Ark on Mount Ararat.
@@tunneloflight oh, ok. cool.
Her wisdom and the way she communicates it to others is awesome! I love listening to her!
Congratulations on passing your comprehensive exams, Dr. Erika!
Beautifully done Seth.
I loathe that "no transitional fossils" argument. EVERY species is a transitional species. That's how evolution works. Given enough time, one species will become a different species. We're ALL in transition. Sorry...that one just drives me crazy. And I get what they mean. "There are no fossils showing some form that's midway between one form and another", but that's a whole other level of silly. The only people that think that are people that just haven't looked for the data AT ALL. There are TONS of those. Tiktaalik, archaeopteryx, ambulocetus, homoerectus...I'm a dumbass that isn't even a biologist--or even a scientist of any kind--and I can spit out a list of 'em. It's maddening...
If common DNA is a result of a common designer, why are there morphologically similar species in different ecosystems with very different DNA?
They are designed for their environment. Simple
@@daveblock You didn't address the point. Why does the designer use different DNA for the same essential body plan if the designer tends to use similar DNA according to Creationist's own arguments?
@@Templetonq Humans are not intelligent enough to understand how life is created…..we can sort of see some things but the more that’s learned the further we get from understanding. You might as well ask how the universe was created.
@@daveblock If that's your attitude, why bother discussing anything at all? What are you doing on YT? You just said the answer was simple! Or do things suddenly become too hard when the questions become inconvenient? We understand DNA well enough to address my question, which was a RESONSE to a creationist claim.
@@Templetonq You aren’t educated enough to actually understand just how little you know about DNA.
IF people came from DIRT why is there still dirt??
The Neanderthal shown at 4:17 bears a striking resemblance to Marjorie Taylor Green.
How dare you, sir! How dare you insult Neanderthals this way! They have feelings, you know... okay, had feelings...😁
She would define a good argument for reviving the
science of Phrenology.
New conspiracy hack: Mike Johnson is a cross-cloning of Henry Morris & Bob Wilkins ...
It is remarkably stupid, if you believe in an *_intelligent_* Creator, to think him as stupid as the difference between Natural Selection and individually creating every animal, plant, fungus, and disease organism. The Creator of the nature of Nature, if he intended the existence of what we call Life, is a bungling nincompoop *_IF_* he has to create Life by Super-natural means, It should be Anathema to believe that the scribes who wrote Genesis, or the Babylonian ones who had earlier versions of the Flood story, were anything but ignorant of what Linnaeus, even before Darwin, realised about the relatedness of the Great Apes.
Thank you. I aiways enjoy your logic.
The reason Catholics aren't supposed to fall for this line of Creationist fantasy is that Galileo beat up the Pope so badly over a sun-centered universe they know better. Father Teilhard de Chardin wrote how Catholics are supposed to regard evolution and the Abbé Breuil pretty much called the 4,000 yo universe a lie.
"PERIPATRIC SPECIATION" Gotta remember that one. Thank you ERICA.
Yeah that was new for me too, lol
@@WillPhil290Yeah, I may incorporate that word into my usually very dumbed down explanation of a simple concept. Maybe it will encourage them to look it up…
Probably not
@@Matt-qr9uk it's a term I havnt heard before. It's interesting.
17:33 It always reminds me of Paulogia when I see "The Bible tells me so". For the Bible tells me so (music). He uses this little jingle when pointing out that something is sourced from only one book in the Bible and can't be found anywhere else.
Considering transitionals. Whenever we find a new transitional fossil,they claim there is no transitional to the next stage. Basically they are claiming that you can't go from zero to one. Mathematically you cannot, for the fractions between zero and one are infinite, You can always cut a smaller fraction off. Practically, however, there is no difference between one and 0.9999999999...
They keep moving the goal post.. every single time. "Missing links" have been found over and over again..
@kleinjahr
So they claim. But evolution starts with the most basic life, so not zero to one.😊
Dr. Banjo lol