I've always loved how Jeff's been dressing like a grandad for like 40 years and still lays down some of the craziest jazz bass ever. Never judge the funk by its cover
There's a difference between what these two guys do & what all the other 90% of bass players do that are giggin all the time. These two guys are in a class of musicians called "virtuosos". If you're a bassist, you don't have to play like a virtuoso to make a living...even in the studio. As a matter of fact, most studio gigs I do for producers want you to play as sparingly as possible; and just lay down a nice foundation for the rest of the group. THAT'S 90% of a bassist's job.
Wonderful recording and a joy to listen to the very contrasting but strangely complimentary styles of these two virtuoso musicians. I only wish there was more content available of them playing together, alas...very unlikely.
Wooten = Groove = much feelings in his melodies .. Wooten = Humility = Peace = no competition .. Wooten has a lot of technique, lots of groove and that makes him a master of the instrument. Not equate to another bassist. Greetings from Uruguay
2 Awesome bassits. I have to say if I had to pick one, Berlin would be the one. Victor's technique is over the top awesomeness and he has great groove. However, Berlin knows his bass in and out, and is VERY educated in the theory of music. I am not saying Victor doesn't have a great understanding of his bass, but Vic even admitted his knowledge of theory isn't that great. Berlin's ideas of harmony are just jaw dropping. None the less, both of these guys are just amazing.
@@arthurmeefunny thing, I agree with that statement but it’s why I like vic’s playing better. Jeff is a beast no doubt about it, I can never take that away from him, but victors melodys and phrasing just speak to me much more than Jeff’s do
Many forget Jeff and Jaco were around at the same time and many regarded Jeff as the better player - but Jaco had more style and sizzle. They definitely respected each other but they were also highly competitive. We are lucky to have musicians like Jeff still around and educating.
man ive never heard anything with jeff berlin before and of course ive always been into wooten but i really love berlins style and sound. awesome video!
I wonder if these guys will ever do this again- I love Vic’s rhythm playing, and Jeff as a soloist always takes you on a really deep journey- cool vid!!
Jeff berlin is an excellent bass player. you have to realise that this is a spontaneous jam, and both players have different tastes and styles. Therefore, the notes and speed that they play at any given moment will vary. You can tell they both enjoy what they are doing, so there is no need to say that one thinks less of the other.
Damn this is an amazing video. I love Jeff Berlin, and I love Victor Wooten, both have been inspiring me to explore the bass as fully as possible in the 9 years I've played. This video sounds so good I listen to it recreationally. amazing music
vic doesnt take it too far. He takes it to another level. He funks and makes it more exciting wether you like it or not is an opinion but that is victor wooten for you.
he can arrange any style and song he wants and make it his own, i've seen him playin rock, then switchin it to jazz and then to funk, hes just so coldbloodedly talented but with such feel!!!
These things can often be disastrous but this is very nice indeed. Enjoyed the Berlin solos the most due to some interesting note intervals but also thought Wootie's rhythm playing was fabulous.
I was there that day and it was rather comical......someone locked jeffs bass in his office, and him and wooten don't always see eye to eye. So while he was trying to get the office unlocked, Wooten was telling to us about all of these non-standard theorys and you could see jeff upstairs just glaring at wooten while he taught us about all these things which jeff considered unimportant. And right before the jam jeff said something like "thats all good but chord tones are whats really important"
@@funmakers2093 That's because if Jeff started playing more than what he was playing here, playing on top of that other guy, it wouldn't sound good and it would be the same if the situation was reversed. I think you need to stop going around in "soul mode" I often see people going around saying that a bass player plays more "soulfully" compared to another bass players playing, as if it was some sort of soul competition.
Indeed both of them have been in, on, and around the industry long enough to have literally entertained millions. Earned the right to wear whatever they want to "work". Hell they could wear G-strings and I'd still listen to this kind of quality jam!!! :)
THANK YOU! Some1 who has a clue. And if you REALLY wanna analyze the video - it doesn't take a genius to realize why Vic was having a hard time getting into a groove. He had to use a LOT of imagination -- why? Here's why -- listen what happens to the BOTTOM of the groove when Jeff takes over... it no where near as solid as Vics was. A lot of the root notes were very light coming from Jeff. But this was a MASTER'S class... and they both are Masters in their very own DIFFERENT rights.
@bakerj02 In terms of revolutionizing the electric bass as we know it, so did Jamerson, totally different style, but they're all great players. Awesome to see two amazing players jam out.
Jeff Berlin does have some killer technique, even though its not as flashy or as apparent as Wootens. Listen to his redention of 'tears in heaven' on his 'taking notes' album. He plays bass alot like a classical guitarist. The way he will let some notes ring out while playing others & other subtle things in his playing are very difficult. I'm kind of bad at describing it, but just listen to it for yourself. I feel it's more of a challenge then the double thumb technique that Victor is known for.
ZappaFan101 you describe it well. Jeff’s version of the star spangled banner is also great. Also, have you heard Jeff play “grooving high?” Another great bass solo
i understand that. and i agree with that. what i disagree with is the presumption that a weakened groove is somehow 'bad'. it isn't. and the change in the flow of the song seemed necessary and musically interesting.
@noinwe Don't get me wrong - Vic is an amazing bassist. I am quite familar with his work. I got a couple of his solo albums and a lot of bela fleck. I just feel alot of his music does come off more technical than musical. Jeff's knowledge of music is just mindblowing. He's got an amazing talent when it comes to phrasing. He can play something so advanced and complicated, but he makes it sound so effortless at the same time. That to me is much greater than technical playing, that's all...
what? it's shite. his melody lines in no way relate to the chords underneath, he just plays fast and often misses where he aims. There is a reason Wooten is famous and lumpy jazz isn't
@Rambonbon He's an amazing sight reader. Did you ever hear Steve Vai's story of Vinnie when he auditioned for Zappa's group? He was given a piece of music titled "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation" to play. You may have already heard about it. If you haven't, I don't wanna spoil it for you. Steve Vai's quote is in the 'Vinnie Colaiuta" article on wikipedia in the 'career' section.
And while on the subject Dont forget those great players most the kids have never heard of, Carol Kaye, David Hungate, Glen Worf, Joe Osborn, Bobby Moore, Wilton Felder, Bob Babbitt, Duck Dunn, Bernard Odom, James Jamerson, Lee Sklar. Just ask Jeff and Victor what the think about that crowd.
true that... ...but chords anchored with a good bass note are epic win for filling space and creating a solid groove, particularly in the absence of more chordal instruments.
I love playing bass more than anything, I face virtuosity every time I pick up the bass . But what good is it, I play bass like one should when making good music that people will want to listen to! How many people listen to Fleck or Vox Humana, not many!
I've always loved how Jeff's been dressing like a grandad for like 40 years and still lays down some of the craziest jazz bass ever. Never judge the funk by its cover
There's a difference between what these two guys do & what all the other 90% of bass players do that are giggin all the time. These two guys are in a class of musicians called "virtuosos". If you're a bassist, you don't have to play like a virtuoso to make a living...even in the studio. As a matter of fact, most studio gigs I do for producers want you to play as sparingly as possible; and just lay down a nice foundation for the rest of the group. THAT'S 90% of a bassist's job.
Too right!
You’re wrong, it’s 98%. The other 2% is helping the drummer break down their kit after a gig.
Amen 🙏 excellent music can be made with even the most basic elements, music is separate from instrumental athletics.
OK, boomer
Yep
Jeff looks like he spends most his time playing World of Warcraft then practicing his bass, but what a talent he is!
I love Jeff, but was very impressed how many different things Victor incorporates into his playing. He is very multidimentional as well.
love Berlin's play... one of the best....
My preference goes to Jeff Berlin's tone , melodic and harmonic approach by far. But it's just my personal preference...
Man, i'm in love with jeffs tone too
It's a tough choice, but I agree. At least for me personally. Jeff's playing and ideas grab my attention and curiosity more.
Both are really good, really musical!!!
I love Jeff's harmonic ideas!!! I love Vic's groove!!! Greetings from Manila! 😄🇵🇭
Wonderful recording and a joy to listen to the very contrasting but strangely complimentary styles of these two virtuoso musicians. I only wish there was more content available of them playing together, alas...very unlikely.
these dudes are really vibing hard! total focus and comradery.
Wooten = Groove = much feelings in his melodies .. Wooten = Humility = Peace = no competition .. Wooten has a lot of technique, lots of groove and that makes him a master of the instrument. Not equate to another bassist.
Greetings from Uruguay
I love the bass. Great musicians doing what they do best. Bring joy to us all.
Bass without feel is like a well crafted car without petrol, it just doesn’t move. Thanks to Victor for laying down that feel.
THIS NEVER GETS OLD💪🏿❤️
Agree!
Thanks for taking the bass forward
2 Awesome bassits. I have to say if I had to pick one, Berlin would be the one. Victor's technique is over the top awesomeness and he has great groove. However, Berlin knows his bass in and out, and is VERY educated in the theory of music. I am not saying Victor doesn't have a great understanding of his bass, but Vic even admitted his knowledge of theory isn't that great. Berlin's ideas of harmony are just jaw dropping. None the less, both of these guys are just amazing.
Yes, you can hear Jeff's knowledge of harmony shining through . . .moving outside and back in effortlessly . . .awe inspiring.
@@arthurmeefunny thing, I agree with that statement but it’s why I like vic’s playing better. Jeff is a beast no doubt about it, I can never take that away from him, but victors melodys and phrasing just speak to me much more than Jeff’s do
I spent a week in players school of music with jeff, he's one crazy cat! One of the best bass soloist out there.
jeff wears his bass like a tie !
He has his trousers tied to it
Many forget Jeff and Jaco were around at the same time and many regarded Jeff as the better player - but Jaco had more style and sizzle. They definitely respected each other but they were also highly competitive. We are lucky to have musicians like Jeff still around and educating.
THANK YOU VICTOR for that beautiful fingerstyle playing!
man ive never heard anything with jeff berlin before and of course ive always been into wooten but i really love berlins style and sound. awesome video!
I wonder if these guys will ever do this again-
I love Vic’s rhythm playing, and Jeff as a soloist always takes you on a really deep journey- cool vid!!
Jeff berlin is an excellent bass player. you have to realise that this is a spontaneous jam, and both players have different tastes and styles. Therefore, the notes and speed that they play at any given moment will vary. You can tell they both enjoy what they are doing, so there is no need to say that one thinks less of the other.
That's a lot of talent on one stage.
amazing im blown away
Damn this is an amazing video. I love Jeff Berlin, and I love Victor Wooten, both have been inspiring me to explore the bass as fully as possible in the 9 years I've played. This video sounds so good I listen to it recreationally. amazing music
wonderful playing!
vic doesnt take it too far. He takes it to another level. He funks and makes it more exciting wether you like it or not is an opinion but that is victor wooten for you.
he can arrange any style and song he wants and make it his own, i've seen him playin rock, then switchin it to jazz and then to funk, hes just so coldbloodedly talented but with such feel!!!
Jeff sounds like someone that I would hire if I need a music theory teacher. Victor sounds like someone that I would hire if I need a bass player.
It's called respect. Something we could all learn from. Slap,tap,or pluck, both incredible musicians.
who woulda ever thought you could have this much fun watching two bass players jam for 7 minutes?
Two real masters, but Victor is out of this world!
Incredible, two real masters
Wow I was sitting though the whole 7:01 minutes staring at the screen. But I wasn't watching, I was listening. They truly are masters.
That was Sensational!!!
Yeah! Great masters
100% FEELING!!!!!
GREAT BASS!!!!!
dankgeetar hit the nail on the head. both have great styles and it's great to here them play together.
this is bass player history
this guy down here said it all. These two are the real deal.
They play together... GOD and... GOD!
These things can often be disastrous but this is very nice indeed. Enjoyed the Berlin solos the most due to some interesting note intervals but also thought Wootie's rhythm playing was fabulous.
I was there that day and it was rather comical......someone locked jeffs bass in his office, and him and wooten don't always see eye to eye. So while he was trying to get the office unlocked, Wooten was telling to us about all of these non-standard theorys and you could see jeff upstairs just glaring at wooten while he taught us about all these things which jeff considered unimportant. And right before the jam jeff said something like "thats all good but chord tones are whats really important"
Jzeme Ocala chord tones,chromatic and diatonic approaches and upper structures....Jeff is always right...
Hahaha that's a great story!! thanks for sharing
Great story! Thanks! My two idols
I only like Jeff’s playing on Bruford’s albums. Here Wooten is laying down a groove with soul. And Jeff....well, is just not.
@@funmakers2093 That's because if Jeff started playing more than what he was playing here, playing on top of that other guy, it wouldn't sound good and it would be the same if the situation was reversed. I think you need to stop going around in "soul mode" I often see people going around saying that a bass player plays more "soulfully" compared to another bass players playing, as if it was some sort of soul competition.
WOW. their styles couldn't be more different, but they surely kick some serius ass!!
Jeff Berlin 🔥🔥🔥
Seriously after watching this is there anyone who thinks you REALLY need a 5 or 6 string bass?
haha not for solo right :) but in groove with band its cool ^^
Guess you've never played gospel, jazz, or metal?
Most of the time I don't have a slightest need for the 5th string. But there are these rare instances where I really need one of those 5 notes.
@@arnbassbaritone Jazz? The masters of Jazz bass began with four acoustically amplified strings!
@@thewomble1509 Yeah and people began eating food with with no seasoning and not cleaning it. Stfu.
very well said!
Somebody call the fire truck
Indeed both of them have been in, on, and around the industry long enough to have literally entertained millions. Earned the right to wear whatever they want to "work". Hell they could wear G-strings and I'd still listen to this kind of quality jam!!! :)
Two masters of the electric bass. An honor to get to hear this clip. Thanks to jazzsoulgroovy for posting.
Jeff looks like Doug from Accounting, but what a G he is on bass though...
ThreeCrowns I think Jeff looks like an industrial arts teacher
You can hear and understand jeff but can feel Victor. They are a mindfuck together
Thank u very much :)
Great !!!
These guys and Micheal Manring are the best bass players on the planet as far as I'm concerned.
el maestro de los maestro
THANK YOU! Some1 who has a clue. And if you REALLY wanna analyze the video - it doesn't take a genius to realize why Vic was having a hard time getting into a groove. He had to use a LOT of imagination -- why? Here's why -- listen what happens to the BOTTOM of the groove when Jeff takes over... it no where near as solid as Vics was. A lot of the root notes were very light coming from Jeff. But this was a MASTER'S class... and they both are Masters in their very own DIFFERENT rights.
finally seeing wooten use his fingers to play the bass!!!
4:37 just crazy lick by Jeff 😮
@bakerj02
In terms of revolutionizing the electric bass as we know it, so did Jamerson, totally different style, but they're all great players.
Awesome to see two amazing players jam out.
Victor's rhythmic ideas are very diverse
Jeff Is another Planet....
markbass for life victor and jeff are inspiring
Jeff Berlin does have some killer technique, even though its not as flashy or as apparent as Wootens. Listen to his redention of 'tears in heaven' on his 'taking notes' album. He plays bass alot like a classical guitarist. The way he will let some notes ring out while playing others & other subtle things in his playing are very difficult. I'm kind of bad at describing it, but just listen to it for yourself. I feel it's more of a challenge then the double thumb technique that Victor is known for.
ZappaFan101 you describe it well. Jeff’s version of the star spangled banner is also great. Also, have you heard Jeff play “grooving high?” Another great bass solo
Jeff berlin..is a monster of bass..
The lines of scale.....
bravo!
i understand that. and i agree with that. what i disagree with is the presumption that a weakened groove is somehow 'bad'. it isn't. and the change in the flow of the song seemed necessary and musically interesting.
@noinwe
Don't get me wrong - Vic is an amazing bassist. I am quite familar with his work. I got a couple of his solo albums and a lot of bela fleck. I just feel alot of his music does come off more technical than musical. Jeff's knowledge of music is just mindblowing. He's got an amazing talent when it comes to phrasing. He can play something so advanced and complicated, but he makes it sound so effortless at the same time. That to me is much greater than technical playing, that's all...
Bruh the people making this a competition, just enjoy the music
Damn! I love both these guys but really........Jeff just plays more complex lines and has a deeper understanding of harmony.
Sebastian Link Yeah, but Vic Boi is Groove personified ... It goes both ways is what I wanna be saying
yes he does, and its clear on this.
what? it's shite. his melody lines in no way relate to the chords underneath, he just plays fast and often misses where he aims. There is a reason Wooten is famous and lumpy jazz isn't
we are talking about Berlin.
YES THAT IS THE PROBLEM BERLIN IS AN UNMUSICAL TURD
Impressive. Very.
this brings a clear picture of what david and goliath looked like,love both of em.
That's the best thing that could possibly happen, those two playing together.
I've always wondered what it would sound like
i think what he means was that groove weakened considerably when jeff took over... i noticed it too.
3.38- Jeff Berlin. Ears. Wow.
Victor wooten!
@Rambonbon
He's an amazing sight reader. Did you ever hear Steve Vai's story of Vinnie when he auditioned for Zappa's group? He was given a piece of music titled "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation" to play.
You may have already heard about it. If you haven't, I don't wanna spoil it for you. Steve Vai's quote is in the 'Vinnie Colaiuta" article on wikipedia in the 'career' section.
And while on the subject Dont forget those great players most the kids have never heard of, Carol Kaye, David Hungate, Glen Worf, Joe Osborn, Bobby Moore, Wilton Felder, Bob Babbitt, Duck Dunn, Bernard Odom, James Jamerson, Lee Sklar. Just ask Jeff and Victor what the think about that crowd.
WOW!!!!
Victor way more funky and musical
@noinwe
Victor is a great groover and has a lot of flashy technique, but Berlin's knowledge of music is VAST.
I thought mr wootens 1st solo was more tastefully melodic and breathed a lot more. But mr Berlin laid a nice foundation on mr wootens 2nd solo.
freaking monsters
WOW
true that...
...but chords anchored with a good bass note are epic win for filling space and creating a solid groove, particularly in the absence of more chordal instruments.
I love what JB did in the beginning. Vic is sick but I find him to be less musical than I like, most times.
Will you guys post the video of yall playing st thomas. That shit was fire. Where did that video go?
hey i heard that song in an elevator or call waiting on the phone someday good playing guys
love how both change rythm at 4:50
nice little jean pierre diddy!
From a musical theory standpoint Jeff is years beyond vic and most players to be honest.
I dug the Jean Pierre reference there at the end.
@royism indeed they sorta do
I want the full 17 minute Video. Some one Please provide the link for that!
@ismabass1
I totally agree
I love playing bass more than anything, I face virtuosity every time I pick up the bass . But what good is it, I play bass like one should when making good music that people will want to listen to! How many people listen to Fleck or Vox Humana, not many!
@greatballsofbass Jeff is a tall huge man!!!
hahaha Merjay hit the nail on the head, I hate people who stare at you when they play, I can't explain it but it's defiantly an awkward experience.
@delitemyheart - cheers mate :)
haha...vic threw in jean pierre--again, but I love it every time! man, both of their phrasing was killer!
Are you positive thats a Mark bass amp? kinda looks like a David Eden WT 550 or something tho I could just be mistaken...