Pilots! Want PERFECT landings? Try this to get better landings every time you fly.
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- In this video, we break the landing down into 5 phases so that you can be very specific about what you're doing right and what you're doing wrong. This works! Please enjoy The Finer Points.
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The one point in my windscreen that never moves is typically a bug.
Mark 😂
Hit a bug last week at 16k....no idea how he got there
Not gonna ruin your 172 likes
@@sherwoody7580 he wanted to try out IFR
@@sherwoody7580 "In Berenbaum's article, she mentions a 1961 study by J.L. Gressit in which an insect trap was placed on a Super-Constellation airplane. That plane flew 116,684 miles sampling the air, catching whatever was up there, and, Berenbaum says, "the trap managed to capture a single termite at 19,000 feet." That's the record."
My instructor has been teaching for 50 years and never had a student fail a checkride. When you get into the flare he says, "Okay, now don't land. Don't land, don't land" until you grease it on. Great technique. You shouldn't be thinking about landing, you should be thinking about not landing. Cool to see you taking that approach as well, it works!
Funny that is what my CFI said. "Don't land don't land" Work pretty good and I can get some good Greasers.
@@kimberlywentworth9160 100% Kimberly!
I've been saying. We're playing a game of "how long can we keep it off the ground"
Wow... impressive! If this instructor is still teaching, would you mind providing the contact info? Thanks.
My guy says the same thing
I still watch these vids as a CFII... and I hope my students are watching these when they’re on their own!
Currently a student doing my first landings this week spamming the video
Ditto!
Student here!
Student here, exactly what I am busy learning.
The big thing for me was speed (in a 172). I already had a rotor private cert and did a fixed-wing add-on with a CFII who takes guys to type ratings in CJ2-3s so he had been around. He had me coming over the fence at 75 knots and I kept bouncing landings. Pretty much starting to fly again. I finally realized he had created a lot of frustration by working me for hours of rental and CFI fees and after an in-cockpit altercation told him I would never get in an airplane with him again. Switched to another school and got an instructor who was almost 80 years old. He had gotten his CFII the year before I was born - and I'm old! We go out for the first time and on our first approach I asked about speed and if we should be over the fence at 75 knots. He says "oh no, that is way to fast. 65 maybe 70 knots or you will have too much energy and bounce the landing." He was absolutely correct and I greased that first landing with CFII number 2 and never looked back. Wasted a LOT of time with that first instructor.
BRAVO.
Too many students have similar experiences.
MOST every student who quit AND pilot I have ever talked to told me they almost quit because of the landing thud their instructor always did.
If an instructor cant grease it on every time, find one who does.👍
So simple. Easily missed. 65kts = 75mph. My instructor had me doing the same thing until the light came on.
@@hotrodray6802 greasing it in as good as long as you're not doing it at the very end of the runway 😁 better to land the plane firmly with runway to spare then hold off and burn 100 ft and end up in the grass
Shouldn't that be 60 KIAS as stated on the Cessna 172 check list?
@@jackfrostcm108 I trained at KSDL on a 9,000 foot runway that has a long no-land zone between the fence and the runway so perhaps that was an adjustment made by my good instructor.
I give you the best tip ever... never get cocky behind a joystick. This guy has some good tips I admit.
I still remember the landing I had to perform for my private pilot check ride. The examiner had me flying above the runway a good 2-3000' AGL. As we passed the mid-point, he said, "Put the aircraft in a slip and land it." Yoke hard left, rudder hard right and down we went. About 100 feet or so above the runway I kicked out of it, pulled back on the yoke to get the nose up and stuck the landing. It helped that the runway was a 13,000 footer formerly used by B-52s at a SAC base that the Air Force closed the year before and turned over to the city. Thinking back on it, that's about the only thing I remember from that flight. So much for all the touch and gos I shot preparing for the exam.
I have to admit that I had a great instructor. I'd ask him one of those "What if" questions, and he say, "I don't know, let's go find out." And we did.
👍👍
At the end my CP examiner said....
"You van do all the snappy manuvers.. NOW you need to learn to fly like you have 40 people in the back."
Best advice I have gotten in 60 yrs.
"I don't know, let's go find out." - i like that!
Was it LNK?
Wow. You could have landed an aircraft carrier in 13,000 ft. I'm learning on short asphalt in the middle of a city, surrounded by shopping centers and a river. The fence is 100 foot from the runway. Glide slope is 5%, and the river approach is between tall trees about 300 foot apart. They tell me if I master that place, I'm solid everywhere. We do touch and go/pattern work at different airports because it's too risky at home base with new students. They have a series of chekrides before they let you solo onto that asphalt.
I'm a fairly new pilot, about 160 hours. I have trained with I think 7 CFIs, all of them quite good. But this is the best breakdown and explanation of landings I have heard. I will definitely be putting this advice to work next time I go out. Thank you for making these videos.
This video should be mandatory viewing for every student pilot. Nicely done sir.
I have been watching everything on flying trying to learn as much as I can before I take classes. This is by far the most informative video on U Tube on landings. Thank You.
I'm a private pilot from Argentina and I find all your videos so interesting and useful. Thanks for the information you share! Especially in these particularly quiet days.
Hey Jason!! Just took my family recently to our first flight. Had a very respectful amount of crosswind, but thanks to your excellent videos, the landing was smooth as could be for my precious cargo, and they got off the plane begging for the next flight. Thanks so much for the videos you put out, greatly appreciated!
I always had this problem with when to roundout, and thanks to your video my landings have improved a lot.
Great advice! It was guys like you who set the foundation for my career. I'm now a retired Delta captain muckety-muck but I enjoyed your video. I had a leg up when I entered USAF pilot training owing to my GA experience. I liked that you mentioned the lack of flare in a large transport- you shoot for a round out with very little vertical speed and land or else risk a tail strike. Aimpoint and centerline discipline is also a big deal with high performance airplanes. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this great video! I was just doing the low passes/landings yesterday and my instructor also say pull back pull back don’t land it don’t land it and then we land :) really enjoying your videos they are great re-enforcement of my CFIs instructions and additional learning!! Blessings
This is the best breakdown of landings. Huge thanks to you Jason
Thanks "The Finer Point" I have been practicing my landing on a regular flight simulation at a school. Its really good. I was wondering what that sound was because I seen it done with a student and a C.F.I. I wanted to try it too. He said the same thing you said about this is the correct way to land a plane. I have been going to simulated for 2 months and it has helped me a lot in my flight training. I do a month subscription for $299.00 per month anytime I want to go. I do 5 hours a flying a week. Always the best!! thank you
This video helped me so much... I have about 40+ hours in a Grumman Traveler but have now started transitioning to a C172 due to the Grumman being involved in a hard landing due to an emergency... I had my first flight in a Cessna this afternoon and I used your pointers from the Jacobson flare and i was shocked with how my landings were right away... with your help and my CFI this transition is going to be a breeze... Thank you for all your amazing content 🤟🙌
This is an excellent video. Never really gave this much thought as exactly when to when to round out. This is good stuff for pilots of any skill level. Thanks!
Great tip on when to begin the round-out. I never heard that before. My instructor taught me to keep the decent until you feel like something must be done about it. At first I had a tendency to round out too high and that just makes for way too much to that has to be done in a hurry to correct. That's for the videos.
Jason I am recommending your video to as many people as I can. My CFI proposed your exercise (first out of 8 CFIs in my XP) and man it was an eye opener truly. Please CFIs include it in your curricula for the sake of your students (and airplanes haha)
This video is epic. Super helpful. Thank you!
Great videos...really helping me progress faster and helping me direct my training with my CFI with your skill building exercises (like the one with the side slip practice) - far and away the best flight training videos I've seen
What a new video!! Never been so eager to learn!
Great reminders/tips we can ALL use and be cognizant of again....
Thanks. I learned something new and that is to pick a spot on the runway to start pitching my nose up. I used to look between the fuselage and the wing to see my altitude.
Great video! Ever since I botched a landing 30 years ago I've used the "bug" technique.
Jason,....Excellent video!!! Learned to fly in an L2 Taylorcraft, (tail-dragger, no flaps). Biggest thing I took from that was learning to operate in the “nose-up” environment. With no flaps to employ, dissipating all of the lift was a real challenge....I also learned, during my training, that, “If you can do it, I can do it”!!! Just show me how....Best feeling in the world was being over the numbers, just high enough and just fast enough to “nail” the landing....Like I said, excellent video....Glad I subscribed.....
This is by far the most useful channel I have found on youtube so far. Keep up the great work. Consider me subscribed
GREAT tip!!!.. absolutely spot on about the approach... if not stabilised and trying to ‘change’ things on short final... well.. you’re leaving it to dumb luck... makes a whole lot of sense to me!! 1000hr pilot, but learnt about the ‘holding back’ even after the main wheels touch down.. too often, I’m guilty of ‘letting go’ once I’ve touched down.. will practice this on my next landings for sure!!
I really appreciated this video lesson and your use of visual aids and video to complement your audio/lecture. I like the idea of breaking the landing down into 5 phases. Will try this next time (and every time).
YES
Thankyou Jason. This will surely help when I begin training !
Great points.
Need this for FS2020 for now...
Real plane when I can afford.
Big Thanks, this is so helpful!
Always great tips. God bless.
Amazing! Thank you 😊
Nice job Jason. My daughter is working on her multi and have been flying 91 for 15 years. We both love your videos. Thanks and keep them coming.
Ron Smith thanks! Wilco
this was so helpful in understanding what to be looking for and when
Hey, I am so new at all this with aviation but I have seen many videos and I even a Private Pilot Video Course and I can tell you my friend that you are a really good instructor, I am from the Dominican Republic and if I had the chance to learn with you trust me on this, I know I would have been your best student, i can say all this by just watching a video where you show how passionate you re about this beautiful career, congratulations and keep up the good work my friend.
Thanks for the tips and tricks, they are appriciated!
Great video! Thank you for the tips!
you are making my flight sim training much easier thank you :D
I am a CFI from nor cal, found your channel today and have been binge watching- great content !
I’m in NorCal, I’ve been looking for a different CFI.
this is a great episode, Jason.
Awesome
This is a very good training, exactly the help I need. Thank You!!!!!
Thank you soooooooo much❤
Great video, thank you!
I'm a student pilot. This content is gold. Thank you!
Thanks for the video, all these little points definitely help!
Helping us understand what it takes to land well.
and still working on it myself ... haha, does it ever end!?
Great points, thank you..
Hey man. Im a new flight instructor just starting my career and I can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos. The way you explain complex things in simple statements is truly awesome. Thank you so much for the videos!
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Very informative. Thanks.
Great info, Jason! Thanks.
You bet Jeff!
1800TT 1100 hours of instruction given here. Awesome lesson. 👨🏻✈️👏
super helpful! Hopefully, I can finally perfect those landings and not balloon after watching this- such a struggle right now in this learning process.
1:48 - I figured that out half way through my INSTRUMENT training and finally started nailing landings. I'm probably the only guy ever who got BETTER at landing during instrument training :)
You may very well be 😳
Excellent flight Instructor. 3/8/2021
Sure could have used this a few years ago for my private training. It would have saved me about $2k in remedial training with a different instructor narrowing down why my landings were so inconsistent.
In my 52 yrs of light plane CP, I have found that 90% of high time pilots fly like they are herding cats.
Many instructors are the blind leading the blind.
My two pet peeves are rough touchdowns and pilot induced ocillations in turbulence.
Thanks for your well developed instructional videos.
😎🔔
Correct. MOST modern instructors are incompetent, at best.
JMO of 50 yrs. CP
Really interesting and very professional . Thanks from Ecuador.
Took my first lesson yesterday. Looking forward to applying these tips. Thanks!
don't pull all the power off before touch down, it'll stall prematurely, leave a 'trickle of power on until touch down!
Nice video. I especially like your tip about flying the plane all the way to the tie downs. That’s something I really learned in my taildragger training. Because there it is absolutely necessary to avoid spinnt the plane on the ground.
Plus side load on the gear is punished severely
Probably the best video on landings. I like that you don't trip up on the word "flare" and still use "transition" to adjust your viewpoint. Jason, you are a one-of-a-kind CFI. You must really love flying, bc you are able to explain so much... in just a few words. Thank you!
Thanku very helpful video ! My CFI suggested I watch your videos !
I love your content sir , great work🎉
Thanks! 🙌🏻
excellent pointers thanks
Rafael Grullon my pleasure! 🙌
Great video I fly in sim world and have mastered it there. Nice video
I've been trying to get back into flying and would really really like to spend a week or so with you. :)
Great video, I'm having issues with landing right now. Just having a problem with understanding my distance from the tire to ground. Slap & bounce is what is in my log book 😧
its fun how we are all pilots or future pilots here
Nice video… Thank you!
The nose wheel of the 777 has to be carefully lowered onto the runway....With such a high nose to wheel height, in addition to how far off the ground the nose wheel is above the runway during the flare takes getting used to...it’s easier said than done. I miss the days when you could patiently wait for the nose wheel to come down when the aircraft lost elevator authority.
I instructed for a long time so it’s great to come back and re-familiarize myself with some of this stuff. Landing technique doesn’t really change much no matter what you’re flying and I think your method of teaching the landing is spot on… In addition, using terminology like “go around” is the same as what the airlines use, so you’re getting the student off on the right foot from day one.
Also worth mentioning is your emphasis of the “stabilized approach”. As all of the airlines work towards improving safety, this single item has revealed itself to be one of the most important and heavily emphasized in the industry today.
It's odd, both of my instructors said the opposite: "let it land". Basically, hold your attitude, nose up, and the plane will land when it's ready, don't force it. I had never heard "don't let it land", but I can see what you meant by it. Anyway, these little tip videos are great. I've made them part of my prep for next week's flight review.
Excellent illustration and lesson... This was one of the things that my instructor drilled into my head... first and foremost, establish a stable approach. Be on your airspeed on final and locate that aiming point. Then "fly" the airplane to that aiming point and, like you said, once it goes under you, reduce power and begin the flare and let the airspeed bleed off. The stall horn should come on just before touchdown. In our Tiger, airspeed is 80 on one mile final with 30 degrees flap (that's our minimum maneuvering speed), 75 on short final with full flap, 70 across the fence and 65 when the wheels touch down. Of course, things change a bit when you're landing in gusty conditions and crosswinds, but that's for another lesson, eh?. Again, nice job.
don't pull all the power off before touch down, it'll stall prematurely, leave a 'trickle of power on until touch down!
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Thank you so much for this video, i'm studying my PPL right now and it helped me a lot!
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5:25 heyyy san carlos airport!! thats where im training!! thanks for the tips too
Jason, just by the way you break the process of landing into its 5 sub-components, I know I'm speaking to an expert. A similar situation occurs in the world of shooting, where to be a good shot, you need to know and apply the 4 marksmanship principles. Jason, therefore, has to be one of the best. I love his use of a model plane to support his explanation. Really professional!
Yeah that's not going to age well
These are just excellent videos! I just wanted to add one tip that could help some students struggling with those last few seconds of the landing. Try to not worry so much about executing a "flare" and think of it as more of just holding the low and level flight path you have after you roundout. The plane will naturally flare a bit on its own if you hold that and just let it settle onto the runway. I had total frustration with landings until I stopped thinking "flare" and started thinking of just holding it level. Give it a shot!
thanks!
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I am a pretty new student pilot and i've been having alot of issues with the landing and this helped alot in understanding the steps and I think it will help me get my landings done and finally solo, thank you!
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Sick black label hoodie man, you just got way cooler!
Hey Jason, thanks for the tips! I have 2 questions:
1. you said, that you are trying to get idle approach. But isn't it a bit risky in a rough air?
2. and another question - how do you calculate where the groundout point is? or is it always a 100 feet? And how do you change it depending on air?
Hey thanks for this great video as usual! One comment of yours in the beginning really connected in my mind. You mentioned that you normally do power off approaches. It would be really awesome if you could share a video where you explain what your approach is to this. Do you always fly overhead the airfield at ~2000' AGL and communicate that you are doing a precision landing exercise? Or do you fly a normal traffic pattern and kind of "gauge" at which point you will "lose" power? I too would like to get into the habit of mostly performing power off approaches, as this will be great training for that time when it will not be an option. Thank you so much!
I have not flown in 40 years and watching videos is very entertaining, some are down right scary. I was taught to slow flight with just a little power from long off and the stall warning screaming 3-6 seconds to save rubber on the tires. From videos and watching landings it seems the majority drive them in like not trying to take too much time at an international airport. I've never heard of a target on the runway, just don't run out of space, maybe cause I soloed at 16 on a short grass/gravel runway that had a tower on approach, one had to maneuver around. Not long ago I witnessed a 190 coming in too hot deflecting the gear enough for a prop strike in grass. While watching this video I was wondering how many different conventional techniques there can be.
Good video and excellent instruction.
I’m going to subscribe to your channel try to relearn some technique. I haven’t flown for years due to illness, but I now have a simulator and can at least go thru the motions. Thanks 😊
I appreciate your video and the "phase" thing makes sense. I am curious how you describe the round out point vs the aim point when landing on an unmarked runway such as grass, dirt or gravel.
teaching a student to fly the runway especially a nice long one like this is the very best way to achieve good landings. in other words fly the entire length of the runway in ground effect holding the centerline with ailerons and using opposite rudder to keep the longitudinal axis aligned with the runway while using a combination of pitch and power to keep the aircraft in ground effect in a level pitch attitude. once you can do this you have achieved a level of control of the aircraft to do excellent landings. few pilots ever achieve this level of control. if you learn it in the beginning you will be a much better and more confident pilot. i believe you should not even consider putting an airplane on the ground until you can control it in the air just above the runway.
Man I sure hope your my instructor someday!!
At 5:29 I was watching this randomly and wasn't paying much attention to the terrain but holy shit this was at San Carlos. I was pretty shocked as soon as I recognized the apron and museum in the back.
I cannot remember exactly what my instructor taught me on landing. This was 45 years ago. My first solo was 12 hours and licensed at 52 hrs. and on the topic of landing I know I can't remember making a wrong turn at Albuquerque, so to speak.
I do recall a spot on the windshield for approach. But, it does make a lot of sense, to fly it down. Fly by the seat of your pants. I also recall the threshold as a target to set-up the touch down. Over the runway, flying the bleeding landing speed and a control drop...the tire-tread gain is up to have less wear. This of course was taught for the flight-training business own gain of course and anyone who is a preserver and not an a abuser would want to comply simply because you were conditioned by previous good teachers to make things last longer.
Whatever I was told it worked fine for all my landings. But, I have to admit that being a heavy equipment operator was an climbing asset. Once your off the ground...eventually; it is show time. And, for everyone who has soloed you would have that intrepid-scare. What was I thinking. That only lasts for a few seconds once you are in the air and in full control of even the controller who cleared you for take-off. You are free as a bird but that rush is crushed because if you don't comply your grounded for many years.
For all those who fly for pleasure and for all those who fly for business...have a pleasant flight. and remeber...the centre line is there for a reason.
Here after installing MS FS 2020
I remember my CFI: "Don't let it land... don't let it land... don't let it land," before the touchdown.
Ill bet you had 40* flap on the little Cessna.
Almost impossible to land smoothly consistently.
@@hotrodray6802 Yep! Full flaps and stall horn sounding on the old 172H!
Hi Jason,
Top marks for differentiating between light aircraft and medium or heavy technique in saying “don’t de-rotate, this is not a big jet”.
I really think more instructors should do this when appropriate. When introducing a concept to someone inexperienced it’s obviously fine to start out with broad statements and refine them as pilots progress - relaxing elevator pressure to reduce AOA will never get you in trouble in any aeroplane - stopping roll with rudder is also fine in most GA types. But if you go on to fly swept wing aeroplanes then the correct technique is to use the ailerons/spoilers to level the wings as the outboard sections should still be flying. Like a lot of things “it depends…”
As an example I was flying with a great friend of mine one day, he was also my First Officer and flying the sector. There was a strong crosswind, he briefed that he was going to “hold it on the runway a bit longer and lift off quickly”. Sounds fine except this was a heavy jet… My reaction was kinda the opposite of yours - that technique is not appropriate for all aeroplane categories. My advice is to watch your channel and read your POH/FCOM/FCTM and do what it says 😁
I have introduced my Dad to your channel too, keep up the good work 🤘🏽
I have never seen someone else who has this hoodie. OG black label, so sick. Both aviators too, crazy.
whoaaa how sick is that Black Label hoodie!! One of my favorite companies growing up.
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Definitely with you on all these tips. Really feel ya with the “small battles” with students. Landings are really built on several different components and steps, and it’s a slow process of refining and honing those skills. When my students are looking down the runway, I have them “freeze the sight picture”. If the sight picture drops, they’re ballooning. If it rises, they’re dropping. This helps them understand what the sight picture should look like and how much back pressure to feed in. Good tips on the when to look down the runway. I have a lot of students ask when they should transfer their gaze to the end of the runway. I phrase it as “walk your eyes towards the end of the runway once you can pull the power and make your aiming point”, but I’ll start to incorporate your tips. Good stuff man. This stuff is great for all pilots - Students-CFIs. Thanks for putting this stuff out.
I feel as though I go through those same 5 points every time I try to kiss my wife
LOL, and what percentage of the time do you have to go around?
More times than not, I imagine. My problem has always been stabilizing the approach. Lol
Mite be time to find a new landing strip
@@gavinhanson9213 hahahha!!!!
Usually my pitch is to high
The granularity part helps a lot
Fritz Kocher awesome! it helps me a lot too - both with my own analysis and when I work with students.
I haven’t seen a blacklabel logo in forever haha awesomeness