A Look Inside The B&W DM602 S3 - This speaker has a large 7" driver and a big cabinet.

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  • Опубліковано 7 січ 2025

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  • @jeffreypicciolo7706
    @jeffreypicciolo7706 Місяць тому +5

    First rate, your doing a much better job than most audio channels

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      Thanks, Jeff! I really appreciate the kind words. I'm just having fun here and trying not to be too serious.

  • @milekokotov1964
    @milekokotov1964 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this excellent video! I have B&W DM602 S3 which I bought them back in 2001 and I am very satisfied with how they performance.

  • @aldub1263
    @aldub1263 Місяць тому +1

    Love these tear downs, great content.

  • @jamyv7826
    @jamyv7826 Місяць тому

    Thank you for giving a podium to these gems!
    Still very happy with my "budget" setup: dm602 s2, XTZ 10.17 edge, Roksan kandy k2, slsm su1 & Chromecast audio.
    I replaced the woofers rubbers, tweeter domes and the ferro fluid some years ago.

  • @peanutbutterjellyjam2179
    @peanutbutterjellyjam2179 Місяць тому +1

    Top of the line job, as usual.

  • @paulchristman5875
    @paulchristman5875 Місяць тому

    Great video.. I actually really liked hearing your journey, your history of becoming an audio enthusiast.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      Thanks, Paul! I'll try and talk more about my journey when I can.

  • @BobbyBass-x6i
    @BobbyBass-x6i 26 днів тому

    Thanks again for another tear down video. Always great to see what’s inside equipment especially speakers. Good to know that after 20 years the B&Ws still sound good. Quality tends to last. What model B&W towers do you have that you can see in the video? Have you done a look inside of those? Keep up the great work!

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  22 дні тому +1

      No problem! I really enjoy B&W speakers from the early to late 2000's. They seem to have a warmness about them that I really enjoy. As for the speakers in the background. I think you're referring to my 802 Diamonds (D2 version) that you see in the background?

  • @RdandTrk1
    @RdandTrk1 Місяць тому +1

    Those things are huge for a bookshelf. They look awesome.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому +1

      They sure are! That's what I love about them. It would be cool if B&W released a speaker like the 602 again that uses a big bookshelf cabinet and 7" woofer. They probably won't do it because then it would cannibalize sales from their more expensive models.

  • @analogkid4557
    @analogkid4557 Місяць тому

    Great work you are doing.

  • @ibakedit5850
    @ibakedit5850 Місяць тому

    Thank you for doing this expose. Much appreciated. I have the smaller siblings to these which I replaced with a pair of Martin Logan Motion 15i's. The difference between the two was not night and day...new isn't always much better. The Martin has slightly sweeter highs that's about it. Recently I bought a pair of Audiovector QR3 SE speakers replacing some Sonus Faber Venere 2.5's. Now this was not a close call, the Audiovectors clearly won the battle with much better highs, tighter bass, and a sweeter midrange. The Veneres had a lot of chestiness to vocals wheres the Audiovector articulated vocals more clearly with an ethereal quality.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video.
      Thanks for the feedback on the Martin Logan Motion line. I have always been curious about them. You're absolutely right. Newer doesn't always mean better and I recently came across this again when I did my KEF Q3 Meta video. I actually prefer the sound from my Q350 over the Q3 Meta.
      Yeah, I'm not surprised by your comments on the Venere 2.5. IMO Sonus Faber kind of dropped the ball on the Venere line with the exception of the Venere S, which came out later after they realized the error in their ways. From what I remember, the Venere S is the only model in the lineup that is made in Italy and uses Sonus Faber developed drivers. The Venere S definitely has the Sonus Faber sound that most seem to love vs the rest of the line.
      I have never heard of Audiovector but it sounds like they make a pretty good speaker judging by what you have said about them. I'll have to keep this brand on my radar. I really like some of the designs they have. They definitely make some sharp looking speakers!

  • @migueldelaguardia
    @migueldelaguardia Місяць тому +4

    Made in England oh the good old days!

  • @ChicagoRob2
    @ChicagoRob2 Місяць тому

    I’m still rocking a mint pair of Matrix 805s from 1995. The factory response graphs show them to be accurate to +/- 1.75 dB. $1600 was lot of money back then, but they are worth every penny.

  • @Seb.S.
    @Seb.S. 28 днів тому

    Hi! You and I exchanged a few comments recently about your 802s.
    I had a feeling then we had a few things in common, and now I’m just smiling watching this video about your 602s. That’s the speakers that started my B&W journey for me too.
    I also bought my pair in 2004 and they look brand new. I’m about to sell them to a gentlemen in Minnesota. Although watching your video makes me sentimental and question if I should keep them!
    And then I click on your comparison against the KEFs and you play 99 red balloons. Are you sure you’re not a long lost brother? 😂
    Those N803 in your dorm were sick.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  28 днів тому

      Hello Seb!
      That's cool that you started out on a pair of 602s like I did. If I had more room I would probably have quadruple the speakers that I do now. Thankfully my dad is taking good care of my 602s and CDM7NTs (working on video atm) so I know they are in good hands. My vote is you should keep them if you can.
      B&W sound has changed over the years, especially in their 600 series. IMO the 600 series from the 90s and 2000s had a nice warmness about them which I miss dearly. To me their newer 600 series can be a bit too forward and bright sounding in the upper ranges and isn't what I remember B&W sounding like when getting started in this hobby. I may be the minority here, but I definitely prefer their older stuff in terms of how they sound versus the newer offerings they have now.
      Yeah, having those N803s in my dorm room was badass. No doubt it was a reckless decision on my part being a broke college student with a newly approved credit card, but it was worth it. I actually ended up selling those speakers for $500 more than I paid for them so it all worked out in the end. :)
      No doubt it sounds like you and I have a lot in common!
      Happy listening my friend! - GenerationBehindHiFi

    • @Seb.S.
      @Seb.S. 28 днів тому

      @@generationbehindhifi I could not agree more.

  • @bradleydurbin6784
    @bradleydurbin6784 19 днів тому

    I have the 685S2 bookshelf speakers I bought 10 years ago for 600.00 pair.

  • @BoRerunn
    @BoRerunn Місяць тому

    I found a mint condition pair and they sound just as good as R3 Metas, call me
    crazy and they love power

  • @andrewcrofts3266
    @andrewcrofts3266 Місяць тому

    Loving your videos! 👌I’m still rocking a pair of S312’s 😂
    Interested to hear what your thoughts are of them? I’m still driving mine with a 200w/ch Denon power amp with a NADM66 pre.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  29 днів тому

      Thank you! Its been a long time since I have seen a pair of JBL S312 speakers. IMO the B&W have much better imaging, clarity, and detail over the S312 and is the main reason I sold them. Sure, the JBL's had better bass, but I can easily rectify that with the addition of a subwoofer. Hope this helps.

  • @JR-ho5qm
    @JR-ho5qm Місяць тому

    Since you had it apart. Did you change the steel nuts to brass? I bet you did lol! Looks like a well built speaker. 👍🏻

  • @claudio9494
    @claudio9494 Місяць тому

    What’s the difference between the jbl’s and the b&w? Really enjoy your videos keep it going!

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому +1

      Hello! Thanks for the kind words! Are you referring to the differences between my old JBL S312 and the 602? If so, the biggest differences I can remember was in clarity and detail from the high and midrange frequencies. IMO the 602 is much better refined and composed in this area over my JBLs. Believe it not the 602 also had a much bigger soundstage than my JBL speakers which really surprised me considering their size. The JBLs did have great bass and that's about the only good thing I can remember about them. The rest of sound was pretty subpar and typical for this time period from a budget JBL speaker -- Think I paid around $400 for the pair for them on ubid.com.

  • @jasonnelson6624
    @jasonnelson6624 Місяць тому

    Wow the hk is still going? I have the avr8000 but it stopped working decades ago. 🤣🤣

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      Yeah, my AVR520 still works beautifully. The backlit lighting is really dim after all these years and the primary remote died years ago. Now I use a generic remote with it but would like to find another HK remote. I really miss quality HK products from this time period. They really did offer warm sounding equipment for an affordable price.
      The AVR8000 was a beast back in the day. I think those AVRs were nearing 30lbs in weight if I remember right?

    • @jasonnelson6624
      @jasonnelson6624 Місяць тому

      @generationbehindhifi yeah they did seem to have issues with the remotes. 30 lbs I wish lol. Hk didn't skimp on the components on this one each amp had huge aluminum heat sinks in total it weights over 50 lbs I think they listed 53 to be exact. But moving it felt more like 60-70 I should probably workout lol.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      ​@@jasonnelson6624 Wow! Over 50lbs?! That's crazy. My AVR520 is heavy too but not that heavy. Shame it no longer works.

    • @jasonnelson6624
      @jasonnelson6624 Місяць тому

      @@generationbehindhifi yeah I just can't bring myself to throw it away. I've tried having it repaired before which didn't work. Apparently its too complicated or too hard to find a repair tech that knows what they are doing? Maybe one day who knows till then it's a big bulky paper weight 😂

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      @@jasonnelson6624 I don't blame you. It would be hard for me throw it out too. Have you tried emailing Harman Professional Solutions at HProServiceUSA@harman.com to see if they repair it? I would give them a try and see what they say.

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh Місяць тому

    I've had a pair before, they are nice, though i always seem to get rid of B&W speakers eventually.

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому

      Nothing wrong with that. That's what makes this hobby so interesting is that we all have different tastes.

  • @themafia3119
    @themafia3119 Місяць тому

    Great speaker but pretty ancient now?

    • @generationbehindhifi
      @generationbehindhifi  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, they are old speakers, but newer isn't always better and I like old things.

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 Місяць тому

    Bigger is usally better for bass. Only in cases were manufacturers focus on making a rip off product this doesnt holds true. Like a big box to hide the effect of a too small bass magnet etc.

    • @vincentpedalino618
      @vincentpedalino618 Місяць тому

      They have a jacked up treble and base, but they always seemed to sound small and harsh to me. I had a pair then switched to PSB. The difference was huge. Much more coherent sound and not as artificial sounding. Bowers always gave me the impression I was listening to recorded music instead of music period.