I DON’T Require A TV Licence!

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  • Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
  • Why they still continue to send me letters about the tv licence fee is beyond me, after all these years is not quite clear to them I don’t need one?This letter has the heading “Local investigation active in your area”
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 689

  • @thejoneseys
    @thejoneseys 2 місяці тому +68

    Here's another statistic for you... every 15 seconds one of their goons gets a door closed on them 😂

  • @DeanoEssex
    @DeanoEssex 2 місяці тому +94

    I declared a no TV licence needed online but i still had a goon knock on my door. I just told him to go away and shut the door.

    • @mollienight
      @mollienight 2 місяці тому +37

      Never give out information that you don't need to. The BBC have no legal right to know who you are or where you live.

    • @utube4andydent
      @utube4andydent 2 місяці тому +21

      Spot on.

    • @jernaugurgeh8110
      @jernaugurgeh8110 2 місяці тому +19

      Yeah just say no thanks shut door and job done. Costs em money so it’s all gravy as far as I’m concerned wouldn’t tell em the colour of the door right in front of them as it would already be shut and locked…….

    • @willdixon2349
      @willdixon2349 2 місяці тому +14

      Way to go !

    • @B400
      @B400 2 місяці тому +8

      How could you be so heartless? ;)

  • @kevster1007
    @kevster1007 2 місяці тому +62

    5 years licence free, feels great

    • @georgedavidson957
      @georgedavidson957 Місяць тому +4

      me too!

    • @chriscurtain1816
      @chriscurtain1816 Місяць тому +4

      Three years licence free for me. Still loving every moment.

    • @martinwebb1681
      @martinwebb1681 Місяць тому +9

      Yeah, and not watching TV does wonders for your mental health. No more propaganda fed to you through a box 24/7.

    • @Sheffield_Steve
      @Sheffield_Steve Місяць тому +4

      About probably 15 years for me!

    • @Bigbaz-bj8io
      @Bigbaz-bj8io 8 днів тому

      7 for me I’m not paying for my own brainwashing by Isreal

  • @necropink9200
    @necropink9200 2 місяці тому +29

    They ain't no Sherlock Holmes when it comes to investigating since they don't even know your name.

  • @StrangeSpark
    @StrangeSpark 2 місяці тому +125

    It's literally bullying and harassment. I might have considered buying a licence and getting a TV had they not sent me those awful letters

    • @colinellison762
      @colinellison762 2 місяці тому +20

      You forgot theatening!, which im sure many older people would consider it!.

    • @anonnemo2504
      @anonnemo2504 2 місяці тому +15

      Whoever lived at that address they visited every 10 seconds must have got a bit p****d off.
      Anyway, got that same letter myself a couple of weeks ago. It went straight in my green bin.

    • @deborahwillard3495
      @deborahwillard3495 2 місяці тому +6

      Feel the same about voting register - sent nasty letter - I was born English - I know I do not have to register for this crap either! Banker picks Gov - not public, 2022 - came out of his Mile to force Liz out for Rishi to be installed!!!
      Banker Rules here - we never were a democrasy.

    • @jernaugurgeh8110
      @jernaugurgeh8110 2 місяці тому +4

      @@colinellison762 which is why they do it. They have expensive reliefs and “Artworks” by convicted people of the worst kind to upkeep you know the BBC.

    • @paulguy2545
      @paulguy2545 2 місяці тому +5

      Bullying & harrasment while hiding behind a bunch of legalism that protects them to some degree I would say too!

  • @tonyday8687
    @tonyday8687 2 місяці тому +88

    Why hasn't someone taken the bbc to court over the scary harassment letters.they shouldn't be allowed to send out intimidating letters like this.

    • @frankbrodie5168
      @frankbrodie5168 2 місяці тому +8

      Because to have any chance in a court hearing, you need expensive lawyers outta the arse to argue your case for you. Else you will just be steamrollered by the legal process.
      It would take a rich person wanting to make a point to proceed with it. And a rich person is going to have a TVL.

    • @tonyandjanetparker3204
      @tonyandjanetparker3204 2 місяці тому +3

      Go to blackbelt barrister. He might take them to court. Just guessing.

    • @dh2032
      @dh2032 2 місяці тому

      @@tonyandjanetparker3204 he may be bat for your side, he's hired-gun/mercenary-for-hire? if there splashing more cash than you?

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod Місяць тому +5

      .... because the BBC have an exception from Government granted by your local mp.... ask them why they explicitly allow the bbc to behave as they do....

    • @englishciderlover7347
      @englishciderlover7347 Місяць тому +1

      @@dh2032 You need to write that with correct spelling and punctuation. That way you might make more sense.

  • @jwsuicides8095
    @jwsuicides8095 2 місяці тому +56

    Imagine how much it costs to send these out. How many people are paying for these letters out of their TV licenses?

    • @rikbryan9709
      @rikbryan9709 2 місяці тому +11

      about 13 million quid a year.

    • @bristolmod
      @bristolmod 2 місяці тому +6

      lots- mugs.

    • @ddhh5
      @ddhh5 2 місяці тому +5

      The black whole of their shortfall.

    • @ds9268
      @ds9268 2 місяці тому +4

      A lot lot lot less than Gary Lineker!!!!

    • @richykennedy6767
      @richykennedy6767 2 місяці тому +3

      But a freedom of information request will tell you that they can't tell you that. I think more about the environmental aspect of all that paper they are using up. At least they're helping keeping the posties in jobs

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius666 2 місяці тому +32

    Normal subscriber services actually use marketing, like "First six months free!" or "Refer a friend and get 10% off!"
    BBC sends threatening letters. Pure effin' genius.

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 2 місяці тому +51

    Fantastic to see how the BBC are fully utilising the money they receive via thousands of door-to-door sales people. Absolutely brilliant work!

  • @cassandrade-wolfe6926
    @cassandrade-wolfe6926 2 місяці тому +67

    *YEAH!!!!! I'VE JUST HAD THE VERY SAME LETTER*
    Mines in the bin 👍👍👍👍

    • @mandrakejake
      @mandrakejake 2 місяці тому +2

      Please recycle 😂🙏

    • @robertcapewell6465
      @robertcapewell6465 2 місяці тому +6

      hahaha and me, I can remember when a letter from TV Licensing came in a brown envelope which actually had TV Licensing on the envelope. Now it just arrives in a white envelope and no indication who it is from , However the giveaway is how it is addressed "To the Legal Occupier"

    • @cassandrade-wolfe6926
      @cassandrade-wolfe6926 2 місяці тому

      @@robertcapewell6465
      They sent it in my name, till a goon got the door closed with a ...no thank you.
      Then the letters started coming to Legal Occupier.
      🤷

    • @cassandrade-wolfe6926
      @cassandrade-wolfe6926 2 місяці тому +4

      @@mandrakejake
      👍

    • @LOTPOR0402
      @LOTPOR0402 2 місяці тому +3

      Bit of a waste use it for toilet paper or to get the fire going with

  • @rugbynut-ar
    @rugbynut-ar 2 місяці тому +27

    Had 3 visits in 6 weeks from 3 different goons not been in for 2 of them and they have left a snotty threatening letter in my post box. I live in a bungalow and wonder if they think i am elderly and can bully me into buying a licence I do not need.

    • @Kivetonandrew
      @Kivetonandrew Місяць тому +9

      I am elderly but they don't scare me!

  • @Youngnetsrik
    @Youngnetsrik 2 місяці тому +37

    Had a visitor from the "investigating officer" as I was leaving the house this morning to go to work. Told him "no thanks" Followed me for 2 mins and said "follow me any further I would have him arrested" Turned about and drove away. He has been in trouble with the police previously for something similar.

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 Місяць тому +3

      That sort of harassment would justify more physical action, in my opinion.

  • @mollienight
    @mollienight 2 місяці тому +80

    I have a letter dated 18 April which lists "what I need to know about the enforcement process:
    - We can apply to court for a search warrant to gain access to your property.
    - An officer (???) may interview you under caution in accordance with national criminal law.
    - Anything you say to the Officer (???) may be used as evidence in court.
    - You risk a fine of up to £1000 plus any legal costs . . .
    - If your property needs a TV licence, you will need to buy one."
    That last point should have been first!! Still not replying, still filing the letters, still not watching live tv or BBC. I have been tv tax free for two decades now.

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 місяці тому +15

      They ARE barstewards.

    • @user-zn8hd3kj6u
      @user-zn8hd3kj6u 2 місяці тому

      They need the money to put In to Swift and COMPANIES HOUSE and HMRC and GOVERNMENT who ( allegedly) trafficked over 100,000 uk kids , gary youtube....gary waterman has all the evidence , no one is listening just like when Gordon Bowden tried to expose it all

    • @anonnemo2504
      @anonnemo2504 2 місяці тому +11

      Whoever lived at that address they visited every 10 seconds must have got a bit p****d off.
      Anyway, got that same letter myself a couple of weeks ago. It went straight in my green bin.

    • @Marty2011uk
      @Marty2011uk 2 місяці тому +8

      They can get a search warrant if you had previously spoken to them or had previously let them in your Home but only if you incriminate yourself. They can't do it on a hunch and they can't kick your Door in either. LLSS
      They are not Officers, just sounds like Police. Other Companies have Officers. Some Public Toilets have an Officer.
      Only police can read you your rights otherwise it is meaningless. P
      Threats are meant to intimidate you, cause fear so you cough up with out getting in to any trouble. The whole thing is based around that.
      I haven't paid their tax for over 20 Years either and not 1 knock.

    • @jernaugurgeh8110
      @jernaugurgeh8110 2 місяці тому

      If you live in a city. They Will come round on the off chance .and a lot more often.
      Cities are now going to be killing zones in every sense . None of these bastards give one good goddamn about anything but their commission on a sale…….

  • @aldorraman
    @aldorraman 2 місяці тому +37

    Thanks for all that you do Jon, breaking down the "gobbledegook" for us. As a side note my elderly neighbour, is 73 and in poor health, as a consequence of our chatting it turned out he was very worried. I took the liberty Jon of showing him one of your excellent videos, next day he told me he slept well for the first time in a month, having been reassured by your information. Thanks again from both of us.

  • @roberthardy2013
    @roberthardy2013 2 місяці тому +18

    They cancelled my licence and I STILL get communications from them. You can’t make this stuff up.

  • @superfreebs1171
    @superfreebs1171 Місяць тому +2

    I cancelled my mothers licence when she went into a care home 8 years ago , I filled in the online form and still got these letters . Since she passed away a year ago , I am getting them every two weeks , absolutely fed up with them .

  • @wjansen3276
    @wjansen3276 2 місяці тому +18

    as a protest , how could we gather all the letters and then leave them out side the jimmy savil bbc door step

    • @pauldurkee4764
      @pauldurkee4764 Місяць тому +4

      Keep the letters and then send them back with no postage.

    • @G-ra-ha-m
      @G-ra-ha-m Місяць тому

      I stopped paying them after I realised they knew about savil

  • @tomalex4806
    @tomalex4806 Місяць тому +7

    Send them a legal letter warning them to stop sending you letters. Hit them back with the letters, you're not breaking the law with anything to do with not having a licence

  • @almari7412
    @almari7412 2 місяці тому +8

    you don't need a license to watch live TV and bbc iplayer full stop. Been watching live TV and bbc iplayer for 2 years and nothing, no letters , no visits, nothing. It's a complete scam.

    • @MikeEves
      @MikeEves 2 місяці тому +3

      You only pay it if you want to.

  • @drewdonnelly2174
    @drewdonnelly2174 2 місяці тому +11

    Jon,I informed BBC Licensing 4 years ago I didn't need a licence. They emailed me back a few days later to confirm this.
    Then the letters started ending up with the big red envelope one. Had a vist after the covid suspension.
    I then contacted my MP and said I had been intimidated on my door step by demanding money with menaces. She agreed, she wrote to BBC and I haven't heard anything since.

    • @Fletchlie
      @Fletchlie 2 місяці тому

      I was selling a fridge freezer to a bloke that took my number in the pub. I haven't heard anything since.

  • @xx3868
    @xx3868 2 місяці тому +7

    Reason.. they go "scary" on these letters is they know they cant enforce it as they cant see what you are watching unless you tell them or let them in. So if the letter wrote you cant watch live tv LEGALLY without a licence, please buy one, people will know they can do it anyway. They cant detect you watching live TV, so their hands are tied and like the Police in the US Not able to "demand" ID without arrest, they push you into giving it against the law threatening with arrest if you dont give ID. In court defendant always winds a lawsuit. UK cant do anything with this licence mess now but send out letters and doorstops to get you to admit you are watching live tv without the licence. shut the door and theres nothing they can do by the law...

  • @jennyjansen754
    @jennyjansen754 2 місяці тому +52

    No one needs a TV license.

  • @realitykicksin8755
    @realitykicksin8755 Місяць тому +5

    People watch BBC abroad without having to pay TV license! How does that work.

    • @gokaiginger
      @gokaiginger Місяць тому

      You've got a fuckin point there 👍

    • @KUOLEMA_
      @KUOLEMA_ 2 дні тому

      In the U.S. w/VPN ( name unimportant ) which even unlocks all kinds of streaming services like Net , Flicks , H.B. , Oh + , Walt + & yes , even 88C without ' using $, £ ' etc. Of course I don't use any of those woke streaming services , but if I wanted to , not only could i watch it , but watch it for ' zero$'. They are so incredibly annoying and wrong ,especially for threatening you guys. Do what the dude says in the video.Good advice. 👍

    • @briansheeran4185
      @briansheeran4185 День тому

      As far as I'm aware, only the BBC World Service is available outside the UK.

    • @KUOLEMA_
      @KUOLEMA_ День тому

      @@briansheeran4185 Wrong. Could sent you a screenshot of me using it in the US w/,my 'NPV'

    • @JUST_RIGHT_SO_FAR
      @JUST_RIGHT_SO_FAR 6 годин тому

      Y̶a̶n̶k̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶r̶u̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶ ̶'̶v̶e̶e̶p̶e̶r̶'̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶-̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶l̶u̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶C̶B̶B̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶'̶w̶o̶r̶k̶s̶.̶
      ̶A̶l̶l̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶n̶a̶u̶g̶h̶t̶.̶E̶a̶s̶y̶ ̶p̶e̶a̶s̶y̶.̶

  • @MikeEves
    @MikeEves Місяць тому +12

    Remember: the default is you don't need a TV licence. You opt in, not out. The same as a firearm's licence.

    • @Sine-gl9ly
      @Sine-gl9ly Місяць тому +1

      ... or a fishing licence, a driving licence, a pilot's licence, a canal boating licence, a water abstraction licence, an agricultural analysis licence, a bookmaker's licence, a cockling licence,

    • @Sine-gl9ly
      @Sine-gl9ly Місяць тому +1

      ... or a fishing licence, a driving licence, a pilot's licence, a canal boating licence, a licence to dive at protected wrecks in Wales, a cockling licence, a bookmaker's licence, a scrap metal dealer's licence, a fireworks manufacturing and storage licence, an abstraction of water licence, a dangerous wild animals licence ...
      Of all the dozens and dozens of licences which I might require for any one or more of a great many leisure or commercial activities in one or all nations of the UK, there is only one licenci g body which - with absolutely no evidence AT ALL - makes the assumption that I _must_ need said licence and proceeds to harangue me _continually_ and repeatedly over a period of years, about the penalties I face for my omission to own such a license _when I do not need said licence_ .

    • @G-ra-ha-m
      @G-ra-ha-m Місяць тому

      I watch what I like, not paid for years.

  • @sarahlewis7669
    @sarahlewis7669 2 місяці тому +8

    I did declare I didn’t need one and no refund was issued (9 months left on licence)I had a visit from 2 people a male and female ENFORCEMENT OFFICER……ha ha ha. I have adhd and have been terrified by these people. I just said no thank you and closed the door. Thank you Jon.

  • @colinellison762
    @colinellison762 2 місяці тому +10

    I dont care, they can threaten as much as they want, there is nothing on TV that i could be interested in thats worth a fraction of what they are charging!.

  • @meeluanistyn1644
    @meeluanistyn1644 2 місяці тому +8

    I've had five letters for this apartment and I only moved in two weeks ago. The first two letters were dated before the apartment was even completed in February and ready for occupation. They're getting desperate. Glad I have a shredder.

  • @glastomole9570
    @glastomole9570 2 місяці тому +16

    Keep up the good work Jon👊 This scandalous racket MUST be called out and stopped!!!!!

  • @cshartley101
    @cshartley101 2 місяці тому +14

    The way I understand it is, if you legally cancel your licence, they keep sending you letters and a threat of a visit, even though you have cancelled "legally" . Also, if you fill out the cancellation forms or cancel by phone, they will have a name to go with your address.
    I'll just continue to ignore them and not give them my money and simply not go through the pointlessness of filling out a form.
    Thanks for your work and information, John

    • @gmo4250
      @gmo4250 2 місяці тому +3

      I just declare every 2 years under a fake name. It doesn't really matter whether they have my name or not, they know my address is not licensed. I know I don't have to, but that's my choice and it stops the letters and I have never had a visit in 6 years.

    • @cshartley101
      @cshartley101 2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks, I might do that then. I only get a letter on average about once a month. But from what I've heard from others is that even after cancellation they still receive letters.

    • @gmo4250
      @gmo4250 2 місяці тому +1

      @@cshartley101
      It just seems to vary and there are different outcomes for people doing the same thing. When I cancelled, they did say I might get a visit, the usual nonsense threats, but that's an email rather than a letter. I really hate those letters, that's why I chose the online declaration every 2 years.

    • @allanh53
      @allanh53 2 місяці тому +1

      ive done a no licence needed on line for years and you dont have to put a name to it

  • @user-nx8ii4ef7f
    @user-nx8ii4ef7f 2 місяці тому +7

    I noticed that my love letters from the BBC are more frequent too!

  • @LeeStewart
    @LeeStewart 2 місяці тому +8

    I've been licence-free for over two and a half years, received countless letters from them, but no visits. I have signed the no licence needed declaration twice (without including my real name). I don't watch or record anything that's being broadcast nor use BBC iPlayer and have saved over £300.

    • @MikeEves
      @MikeEves 2 місяці тому +4

      My house is a blackhole, anything that goes in, such as these letters never come out, no reaction, nothing. Nothing easier than doing nothing. Why on earth would you declare you don't do something...

    • @lizvickers7156
      @lizvickers7156 25 днів тому

      I declared no license needed 2 years ago and last year as well. I will keep on doing it every year whether needing to or not. Haven't had any letters or visits. If they do happen to visit I will get my solicitor friend to send them a letter.

  • @wjansen3276
    @wjansen3276 2 місяці тому +10

    seen them all john , my latest one is, we have been authorised to visit your home ,still havent come round .but i have nothing to hide , have been lissence free for the 11th year , i dont watch any broadcast tv , its all shit ,

  • @afreeman1980
    @afreeman1980 2 місяці тому +11

    I'm getting one a month. Thanks for info as I don't open them.

  • @stephenbennett7245
    @stephenbennett7245 2 місяці тому +7

    i love how they just ASSUME you need a tv licence its pathetic my 69 year old mom received one yesterday she is ok with tech i just been going over how she can watch her soaps without tv licence even eastenders dont know why eastenders episodesmare normally on youtube few hours after broadcast so u can watch without licence point is i been showing my mom she can watch everything she loves on catch up not i player without tv licence and she had a goon last week come to door i was there and she just told him to bog off and shut door i was proud i just hate how they assume ur guilty its so wrong keep them coming jon

  • @grahamsmith8648
    @grahamsmith8648 2 місяці тому +19

    Yes keep doing the letters jon. I was reassured myself thanks to your channel. Let's get more doors closed on them.

  • @tonybrett5209
    @tonybrett5209 Місяць тому +3

    I love how they have "WILL YOU BE HOME ON 'XXXXX DATE'
    Not now I won't be! 😂

  • @ApocalypseofMichael
    @ApocalypseofMichael Місяць тому +2

    I advised that "I do not need a license" a number of times and even did it online a good while ago and as a result they stepped up on the door knocks and threats. Harassment, extortion under threat of court order.
    Abusive people become tv licence employees.
    If you answer the door to them say "You are harassing me, you are intimidating me without cause or reason; come back and i will sue you personally for abuse." The look on their face and the stumbling words as you slam the door in their face is worth it!

  • @karl8049
    @karl8049 2 місяці тому +7

    Im starting my third year of no tv licence, ive had one visit in that time. Never opened the door and they toodled off. I get one letter a month which i send straight back to them, return to sender. It works . Keep up the great work. 🏆

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod Місяць тому +2

      Tvl have an agreement withe the post office and your letters won't have been returned... you are better off to forward to your mp asking why they permit harassment...

  • @davidcoffie5403
    @davidcoffie5403 2 місяці тому +8

    Had a visit last week told him to go away 😢

  • @johngrice2246
    @johngrice2246 2 місяці тому +7

    we should have all woke up by now , having been through the fear and scaring by MSM including BBC and Government about the virus

    • @EE16SVT
      @EE16SVT Місяць тому

      which was fake

  • @alistermunro7090
    @alistermunro7090 2 місяці тому +2

    There just isn't anything worth watching on TV these days.

  • @alanc5954
    @alanc5954 Місяць тому +1

    About 10 years ago they turned up on my dad's doorstep stating that their records showed no valid tv license at his address. He stated that he did indeed have a valid license, and showed it to them. They said that their records showed a different name at his address, and asked for proof of I.D. He said their records were obviously wrong and showed them his driving license. They still wouldn't accept it, and harassed him for months, until he threatened them with legal action. They are crooks who will try anything to get your money.

  • @davidbowie2046
    @davidbowie2046 Місяць тому +2

    If any letter says legal occupier it's not specifically for you. I had loads when I moved into my flat.

  • @KatCohen-wj1kx
    @KatCohen-wj1kx 2 місяці тому +4

    Had this one again last week, 3 rd time since i moved in February last year. As usual it went to line my cats litter tray

  • @phillowen5147
    @phillowen5147 Місяць тому +3

    Pretty sure I've got the full set several times over now after 12 years of not paying for something I don't need....any other company would have been warned about harassment by now by the courts....
    This needs to be stopped... especially as elderly people are likely to be extremely unsettled by these bullying letters...

  • @robybabe4461
    @robybabe4461 2 місяці тому +13

    Got the same letter last week and put it back in the post with "Return to sender "

  • @pcfaulkner
    @pcfaulkner 2 місяці тому +7

    Keep up the good & accurate work 👏 haha the BBC can go and whistle for funding! You are doing a great job of informing people in your videos.
    Good man.

  • @sharonwoodward7741
    @sharonwoodward7741 Місяць тому +2

    I live with my autistic son so I did the no licence needed declaration as he would get upset from the letters arriving. We haven't watched live TV for over 4 years. I so far have had no visits. But my son is prepared now if one calls. Firstly he won't answer the door and if he does he will be polite and and say no thanks and close the door....

  • @davidatkinson3336
    @davidatkinson3336 Місяць тому +2

    Hi. Just thought I would add my two penn'orth. I have just received my free TV licence and a refund . I have also had a reminder that I haven't paid my tv licence.

  • @sbarmyman
    @sbarmyman Місяць тому +1

    Just bought a house so told them I didn’t need a license and within 2 months had a letter stating that I had been “detected” watching live tv - despite house being unoccupied & uninhabitable during renovations

  • @archie2archie
    @archie2archie Місяць тому +1

    I had filled in the "No T.V. license needed" form online 3 times over the last 6 years. This time i did not bother. I got 3 letters over about 3 months, then one unanswered visit from one of the boys. I have many cameras.Waited till i got another letter then filed in the "No T.V. needed" form online. Only this time i did not fill in my name. I do not watch TV in any way shape or form, it's something i lost interest in years ago. I still have a SKY dish just above my front door, my SKY subscription expired a good 20 years ago. As i give zero thought to TV I'm less likely to fill in any form next time.

  • @DaIrishman-jw8bn
    @DaIrishman-jw8bn 2 місяці тому +9

    I had a visit other day just said no thanks and closed door - should I expect to hear more from them?

    • @ChilliJonCarne
      @ChilliJonCarne  2 місяці тому +8

      You might get a return visit, but for them it's a numbers game. The goons earn commission, so they can't waste time on a useless address.
      If you like in a big town / city you stand more of a chance of a return visit at some point

    • @DaIrishman-jw8bn
      @DaIrishman-jw8bn 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ChilliJonCarne thanks for taking the time to reply it’s most appreciated and keep up the good work 👍

  • @Kivetonandrew
    @Kivetonandrew Місяць тому +2

    I've had the very same letter. I photograph them and put them in my Facebook page. Usually get a few laughs from friends. They can keep them coming, it's not my licence money that's paying for all this bulls¥₩t.
    Two years now since I had a Goon visit, unfortunately I was away so never had the pleasure of shutting my door on them!

  • @thirdeyeblinking3173
    @thirdeyeblinking3173 Місяць тому +1

    I wrote to them and removed their implied right of access so they aren't allowed to come round my house. I don't have a TV in my house. I really hope they try and get a warrant so I can take them to court for harassment.

  • @rubybaker8571
    @rubybaker8571 Місяць тому +1

    Who is paying the private company and how do they have access to the information? There are rules and this company should be investigated for unlawful harrassent. The information commissioner should ivestigate. What are the odds?

  • @bubbahope243
    @bubbahope243 2 місяці тому +3

    Im not paying for the crime's of Jimmy savill or Gary glitter or Rolf Harris

  • @DnBclassictunes
    @DnBclassictunes Місяць тому +1

    I cancelled my payment. Threw the letters in the bin. Had one visit. Ignored the door. Nothing since. Winner winner

  • @jcshay8121
    @jcshay8121 Місяць тому +3

    John, don’t rely on living on a top floor flat as protection. I am a delivery driver in the UK and I believe I witnessed a goon buzz a different flat to gain access to the building under the guise of being from the “council”.
    They will often buzz a different number flat to the one they are actually visiting. So still expect the knock.

    • @martyndawson7484
      @martyndawson7484 Місяць тому +1

      That must be tresspass.

    • @luvuforeverjames
      @luvuforeverjames Місяць тому +1

      I live in a sheltered flat, and we are not obliged to buzz anyone in (unless it's the postman), if the person they are wishing to visit/communicate with is not answering their entryphone. I do have a TV but do not watch BBC or any live broadcasts, only talking pictures TV or the crime channel....all the others are crap in my opinion.

  • @skyhill4279
    @skyhill4279 27 днів тому

    I had a goon from tv licensing put a letter through my door with info hand written in the boxes on the back. On the front it says in red " do not ignore this".
    I wasn't in the property at the time but it says they will be back in 7 days. If I was in the property I would have told them get to f**k off my private property. I don't have a tv at the property and don't have the Internet there either and don't live at the property. Anyway, why should anyone have to pay a licence to watch independent tv stations and the money is given to the BBC!!!
    I just ignore the B'stards.
    Great channel.

  • @DavidSmith-ze2wi
    @DavidSmith-ze2wi 2 місяці тому +17

    Four years me no licence I just regard their activities as purely childish. If people want to cancel they should do it, you've more to fear from the Bogey man under the bed.

    • @VictorLaszlo-iz3il
      @VictorLaszlo-iz3il 2 місяці тому

      Don't you risk getting jailtime and a criminal record ?

    • @DavidSmith-ze2wi
      @DavidSmith-ze2wi 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@VictorLaszlo-iz3il They'd like you to think so but if you do as Chilli says and have no contact with them there's no risk. I've had goon visits their so called " enforcement officers" and they send me a meaningless threat letter every month which goes straight in the bin and where has it got them. Nowhere.

  • @JG-fh8kv
    @JG-fh8kv 2 місяці тому +2

    With the list of categories for needing a TV licence such as UA-cam Netflix including commercial broadcasting companies that you can watch on a smart phone or PC, they still say you require a TV licence, such ambiguity should be illegal as it's nothing to do with the BBC, you are right, they will continue to strike fear into the public with the backing of the government through the back door avenue to pay up even when you don't need a licence, totally disgraceful.

  • @CalmingAnxiety
    @CalmingAnxiety Місяць тому +1

    I got very upset when their goons failed to visit last month, I took the day off work just to be in and had 3 cameras all ready to record....

  • @angieetheridge6386
    @angieetheridge6386 2 місяці тому +4

    4 years licence free.. Just don't open the door, letters go in the bin.. If I do get caught out and open the door just say no thankyou shut the door...

    • @martinwebb1681
      @martinwebb1681 Місяць тому

      Exactly, no need to be overly aggressive or rude, a simple no thank you or I am not interested then shutting the door is all that's needed.

  • @markcarlo8692
    @markcarlo8692 Місяць тому +2

    Hi ChilliJohn, was speaking to someone the other day and they absolutley tried to shoot me down in flames stating that you require a TV license just to own a TV set AND to cover the radio they have in their car,They were not having any of it,Is it any wonder the BBC are pocketing a fortune when ill advised people have this kind of mindset

  • @rayro999
    @rayro999 2 місяці тому +3

    March 2023. Politely phoned up to cancel. All well and good.
    September 2023 the first harrassing/threatening letter arrived.
    By December 2023 i had FIVE letters, the last threatening a visit 'on ar after 14th December at any time during the day, evening or weekend'.
    And THAT is why I will NOT be telling them i don't need a licence again and will just slam the door in their harrassing F'n face.
    I will treat them in the same way as they have treated me.

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod Місяць тому

      First mistake was telling them.. you don't need to... bin the letters or send to your mp asking why you are being harrasesed for services not used..

  • @sindento1942
    @sindento1942 Місяць тому +1

    I've not had a letter from TV licensing for over 16 years since I had a visit, yet some people get loads of them, I feel abandoned.

  • @MultiSueH
    @MultiSueH Місяць тому +2

    Mine will be on it’s way soon, thanks for the heads up Jon😮

    • @MultiSueH
      @MultiSueH Місяць тому

      It’s arrived!!!

  • @peterking8586
    @peterking8586 Місяць тому +1

    Never tell them you don’t need it. That could be used as evidence against you.

  • @davidhowe6905
    @davidhowe6905 2 місяці тому +3

    I also seem to be getting letters more frequently lately.

  • @MENSA.lady2
    @MENSA.lady2 Місяць тому

    Back in the 1980's a case went to court in Glasgow for using a TV without a licence. The guy had found out that the governmt did not allow TV detector vans to operate in Northern Irteland. He screamed discrimination. The judge agreed and as a result all the detector vans were scrapped.

  • @barefootcontessa3112
    @barefootcontessa3112 Місяць тому +1

    I am so lucky, I’ve filled in the online form for no licence needed, three times and I’ve never been bothered by a visit, threatening letter or letter about no licence registered at my address.

  • @sipa436
    @sipa436 26 днів тому +1

    Cancelled my TV licence over a year ago and heard nothing.

  • @Thebluezman
    @Thebluezman Місяць тому +1

    I see Freely the latest tv service was launched yesterday which is backed by the bbc,ITV, ch4 and ch5. What really annoys me is in the press it's being described as a free service which is complete fabrication as you still need a licence to watch it.

  • @mrdeathgaming1457
    @mrdeathgaming1457 24 дні тому +1

    They have been in my area for 20 + years!.Never aknowledged.

  • @davidadams5116
    @davidadams5116 Місяць тому +1

    I live in a quiet village in the sticks and have never had a visit or letter. If you live in towns or cities you probably will get this harassment

  • @Thunderer0872
    @Thunderer0872 Місяць тому +1

    I get letters all the time, nobody comes, I tend not to answer the door generally anyway, but when they threaten I wait and nothing. I don't watch any BBC I don't even watch live motor sports on UA-cam, so I am not breaking any laws, but they are idle threats, nothing ever happens on the days they say they are coming.

  • @Dathom1986
    @Dathom1986 2 дні тому

    The Tv has run its course.
    And all them celebrity's on 1000's just because they are in the right circles are also finished with , nobody's watching it.

  • @Pitmirk_
    @Pitmirk_ Місяць тому +1

    24 years no licence, lived in two places, latest since 2013, lot of letters, no visit. But then i live in east london so they surely can't recruit anyone who would dare. Tip... make sure you don't use iplayer either, and make sure you do open letters from the state about voting etc to make sure you tick boxes for keeping your name off the visible electoral roll, so they can't address you by name

  • @Krookavan
    @Krookavan Місяць тому +1

    I haven't had a license for 19 years and still get letters after telling them over and over I haven't got a tv.

  • @107nthGalaxy
    @107nthGalaxy 2 місяці тому +4

    imagine if supermarkets did this lol we notice you havnt bought some bread recently, if you dont require bread, then you may be liable for a 200 quid fine ...its laughable

  • @barrypetcher8542
    @barrypetcher8542 Місяць тому +1

    I'm 57yrs old and never bought a TV Licence in my life.

  • @mohamad4609
    @mohamad4609 Місяць тому

    They get away with it because no one has taken them to court over threatened behaviour 💯😡😡

  • @Sine-gl9ly
    @Sine-gl9ly 2 місяці тому +4

    I think I can beat all of you, not had a TV or a licence since 1983(ish)! I've moved several times so I've been The Legal Occupier to C(r)apita for many years.
    Have just moved into a retirement complex - am pushing 80 now - and got my first letter at my new address. I went to see the Manager of the complex, as I don't want anyone giving out my name if the goons come a-visiting and I don't buzz them in, but fortunately she's wised up to the goon visits and threatograms already. So if they come during 'office hours' they won't get any details from her.
    Many people here do just sit and watch the box all day - but many don't, and I'm encouraging those who don't to think about whether or not they need a licence.

    • @maunsell24
      @maunsell24 Місяць тому

      I'm afraid you'll need to vacate the top step of the podium. :>) I've not had one since mid 1979.

    • @Sine-gl9ly
      @Sine-gl9ly Місяць тому

      @@maunsell24 You win the medal!

  • @andrewmack2161
    @andrewmack2161 Місяць тому +4

    I haven't required one for over 5 years now.
    I haven't advised them of this in the same way I haven't advised a plumber that I don't require his services.
    I now file their letters straight in the recycling bin.

  • @eddielowe8189
    @eddielowe8189 Місяць тому +1

    The bit about how many doors they knock on is ridiculous, 5000 a day works out if they do 12hrs around 420 every hour for the whole country, ether they are lazy or that's the number of doors that get opened to them. Your postman mostly delivers in a single morning to more doors in one day.

  • @adrianscarlett
    @adrianscarlett 8 днів тому

    My latest letter has a section at the bottom that alerting me that they can "apply for a court for a search warrant to gain access to my property"
    In a red box at the bottom entitled " A reminder of the law" , it says let us know you don't need one at ...
    They really should be fined for claiming these as facts.

  • @TonyandTeddysWorld
    @TonyandTeddysWorld Місяць тому +1

    I have done the no licence needed declaration now for about 8 year's and I have never had a visit

  • @Marty2011uk
    @Marty2011uk 2 місяці тому +1

    I've spoken to People who pay the tax and I've asked them why do you pay it?
    No one has ever said that it is good value for Money. We don't want to get in any trouble, best to stay legal or we do watch East Enders.

  • @clivewilliams3661
    @clivewilliams3661 Місяць тому

    We bought a property 25 years ago, where we have never used a TV or watched i-player. We notified them that we didn't require a TV license from the outset but 2 years later they started sending the letters that ramp up the threats to a peak and then subdue back to the original letter to start the whole process off again. Since then and therefore for the past 23 years, all their (black and red) letters go in the bin. We have never seen a hint of any TV Licensing investigation officers in all that time and had they carried out due diligence they could have known that the property is unoccupied.
    As the BBC have franchised out the collection of moneys to Capita aka TV Licensing, it is in Capita's interest to maintain the flow of letters to justify their fee, whereas I suspect the BBC would have long since realised the futility of attempting to pursue us and given up.
    The stupidity in all this is that the TV License fee seems to most that it only applies to TV, whereas it supports that vast array of local, national and international radio services that we should be rightly proud of. In many countries the BBC World Service for example, is well respected and for many it is the only reliable independent service available, particularly for unbiased news. We pay the license fee on our main home as much for the support of the radio services that most of us listen to, as for our dwindling home TV viewing.

  • @jenniferclairrobson
    @jenniferclairrobson Місяць тому

    Brilliant advice as ever. Thank you so much. I feel harassed with letters and door knocks, they're BBC bullies.

  • @davidchastell3110
    @davidchastell3110 2 місяці тому +1

    A TVL Goon came to my house whilst I was at work today, then other half opened the door and told him to clear off.
    Off he went!! He left a threatening letter behind saying we had to contact them in 7 days, we just binned it 😂

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 2 місяці тому +14

    Im lucky nothing in 26 years, 1 visit after 5 nothing more.
    Remember its subscription listen to Jon.

    • @VictorLaszlo-iz3il
      @VictorLaszlo-iz3il 2 місяці тому

      Best keep your head down and your mouth shut or you'll end up with a criminal record and jailtime if they get you in court.

    • @stephenholmes1036
      @stephenholmes1036 Місяць тому +1

      I don't need one, only dvd and videos haven't hax a connected tv fo 31 years

    • @MikeEves
      @MikeEves Місяць тому +2

      ​@@VictorLaszlo-iz3ilfor what crime?

  • @michaelcarroll9195
    @michaelcarroll9195 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for all your work Jon, keep em coming.

  • @ScreamingEagle101st
    @ScreamingEagle101st Місяць тому +1

    I actually had a interview to be a goon. The pay is quite good £30k+ per year. Interview was done on teams and was asked awkward questions. Didn't get the job

  • @2514ben88
    @2514ben88 2 місяці тому +2

    Really appreciate the video and yes I think it's a good thing to see what letters everyone gets, as individuals we are more likely to be in terminated by these letters but by showing they are Commonplace it is not such a scary thing, yes and BBC TV Licensing uses fear of financial loss or breaking law to get you to pay.

  • @pab777
    @pab777 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent advise. Thank you.

  • @JamesCorson2012
    @JamesCorson2012 Місяць тому +1

    Your advice is brilliant. I shall follow it. 😊

  • @iamrocketray
    @iamrocketray 2 місяці тому +1

    I also live in a block of flats with a buzzer for the main door. I have lived there for 15 yrs and NO visits BUT I get a monthly Threat O Gram. I could get a free license as I'm 75 and on pension credits, but there is no point because I don't watch live TV and on the application form they want your previous TV license number which I can't remember because it was over 40 years ago since I've had one. I have wondered if I said I once watched BBC IPlayer, if they would take me to court, I have my doubts and if they did I would say I got confused and I actually watched it at a friends house who was licensed.

  • @paulguy2545
    @paulguy2545 2 місяці тому

    Keep on making these videos Jon because it shows people how consistent you are with what you know - people can't ignore that despite whatever opinions they may hold!

  • @jennigee51
    @jennigee51 Місяць тому

    Apart from telling them the first time I stopped paying my licence, which was over three years ago, and getting a visit a little while later, I haven't filled in a two year declaration and I haven't had a single letter!! I'm a very lucky lady 😊