Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
We are building a shed and bought this to assist us Does not include any type of blueprints but very helpful to remind you about permits, different ways of doing the foundation or roof ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxcLVQopTIucrxiVRQA0khLGQEnDVKCSMG and why they need to be that way, it also includes "pro tips" and lots of pictures and videos Very informative! I also bought it used for 3.18 plus shipping and in "good" condition. It had a little dent on the cover but that was it. Glad I bought it!
It is a very good book for beginners as well as for those that are already into ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt A very good basic ebook to keep as a reference too. I like it and the way the subject matter is presented. It has humor and that helps with the reading.
Makita does like no advertising and not known by many these days... but as far as power, quality, ergonomics, safety, price, sheer number of tools... can't go wrong with Makita
My boos just brought all the 40v and the drill is a monster. Drilled 16mm holes through 300mm lvl and pine framing on a whole house on one battery total of 170 holes no break to let it cool down. Dont have to drag a lead around anymore. Absolutely brilliant
Took a risk and bought the 40v impact driver 6 months ago, I am so glad I did because it’s the best impact driver I’ve ever used, and I’ve used gen 3. The powers the same but the trigger and build quality is way better. At work we run all Milwaukee tools so I was wondering if the single battery would be a problem but it lasts like 3x as long as any Milwaukee battery and it’s guaranteed to last the whole day no matter how hard you run it. It doesn’t even slow down on GRK’s and Lags, 10/10 would recommend. It’s a stand alone tool that you can buy even if you’re on a different platform but want a better impact driver
It's exciting that for years tool companies have been obsessed with power and runtime - so now 5 year old branded 18v tools are still competitive and durable. These companies will now have to innovate and look at more fundamental reasons for us to buy new tools. The 18v Makita platform might be only 90% as good as the new line ... However I remember the days when you bought an 18v circular saw and it could barely cut Hardboard. There was a reason 15 - 20 years ago to upgrade ... in the last couple of years battery powered tools are so durable, high powered and effective.... whats next? genuine innovation, accuracy, convenience, customer service? it will be interesting to see where they go to tempt us to spend our hard earned money.
Big Makita fanboy here. I sold power tools for a few years and have been in the industry for 27 years. The way this was explained to me by the Rep was the new Makita 40v works much like the DeWalt 20v system..... you get max power until the tool and battery talk and decide that enough is enough and then drop to 18v. I still haven't been told what the Makita benchmark is, but DeWalt is 90% charge. I will say that I own the entire line of Makita 36v tools and I wouldn't give them up for anything. They may or may not have more power than the next tool, but I can work all day long and those tools will not die.
Battery life is actually noticeably better. The drill is a beast, so is the 18V 481, but the electronics make a big difference for peace of mind. The drill and driver are not enough to switch though as you said. But with the free battery that comes with most tools Makita make it easy to start with the new system. The mitre saw is impressive too apparently, even if it is expensive.
Milwaukee = Power king. Makita = King of precision. They're not weak (just a little less power than milwaukee) but far more precise and far better ergonomically.
My Milwaukee platforms 18 and 12 have been really ergonomic and quality nightmares. I also have the Hilti 22V and 12V as well as the DeWalt - either of which is superior to Milwaukee when it comes to reliability and practical usability. Nearly all my corded tools are Makita. They have all been flawless. They are comfortable and light, and I don't mind the cord. If I had to do the battery again, it would be Makita and Hilti, no questions asked.
I’ve got a few XGT tools now. 270mm circ saw is brilliant, oodles of power, 100mm depth rip on dry gnarly english oak, track compatible, surprisingly light too. Planer has insane power and lasts for ages. 3/4” impact is a monster too.
I feel like with impact drivers, at some point the extra torque you could get from a higher voltage battery exceeds the capability of the hammer mechanics. That’s why you see negligible difference with the speed tests. Impact drivers rely more on the speed and weight of the anvil, so unless you put heavier anvils and increase the speed, torque isn’t really a big factor. Now with straight drilling, torque is the main factor and you can see the Makita 40v really shine.
I just got myself a set of XGT impact and drill- I've notice that they no longer use a smooth trigger with unlimited control, they use a step-style trigger like milwaukee and others- my makita hammer drill has that perfect smooth full control trigger, so you get one speed, then steps up to the next speed, etc when pulling the trigger. probably doesnt really change anything in real world usage but something note worthy and something i wanted to know before purchasing to manage expectations. IMO the benefits of an smooth trigger, is starting a drill point or screw for some finer finish work. but for the most part, regular use for these type of tools, not something to worry about.
I have mostly Milwaukee cordless because their line is pretty robust but I do have a few DeWalt, Makita cordless tools. This just showed me, all premium brands basically perform the same. I am however very interested in that Makita 40V circ saw. I like how compact and smooth it operates.
I have the 10 1/4" one and it has been the only one we use now, the Milwaulkees sit in the box now. It is super smooth and has crazy long battery life even cutting 4x4's!
The light placement on Makita's 40v is a little better thought out. Seems small, but helpful when needed. Also, I'd love to see the chop saw and router tests
@Dan H. better check your calendar bud, Katrina was in '05. But regardless, natural disasters do influence building materials. It's not localized however. They trend up nationally.
Thanks for this fine presentation, I still run my Porter Cable 18 volt that I have about 7 tools and 3 third party batters for it...I bought the kit about 13 years ago ,..and Im ready to upgrade to the Makita 18 volt XLT, and give the Porter Cable tools to my son whose living in one of my rentals..He'll love it, I mean half the tools is over his house as it is.
I just bought the newest 18v Makita hammer drill and impact combo because I needed to replace a old Dewalt 20v hammer drill and the ergos and compact size are awesome. I have that flexvolt circ saw and it's a great saw. Thanks for the look at the tools.
Never been a fan of milwaukee, makita looks really solid. All my tools are Bosch, and never had any problems with any. Just got the 18v bi turbo sds plus, 5.1 joules of impact energy, or 4.3 ft pounds.
I love Bosch and Makita. So far I’ve been the only one on the job sites with Bosch and older Makita 18V. I pretty much only see Dewalt, Milwaukee and then Makita. Some of the guys have Ryobi as well.
you are right I am using it in hardcore more here in Brazil making industrial furniture, it's as effective as my 2000w corded bosh grinder! For stainless steel the hability of reduce speed it's a must to don't cook the material.
Loved the video. I'm a dewalt guy but I know that there are better tools out there. I already have the battery platform and I can't justify buying another brand when these do what I need them to.
I definitely feel like the extra lighting on the left side of the shop was an advantage to the Milwaukee. If you could make the light more balanced I'd think it would make for a more accurate comparison.
I luv my Makita tools and I'm sure that they will perform well but I have slowly converted my Milwaukee and Makita tools(where it makes sense) to Metabo HPT 36V-Metabo HPT made their Multivolt 36V batteries backwards compatible with the 18V tools and allow for the AC adapter option-Makita should have at least done the backwards compatibility as Metabo already showed it is possible and they entered the market 3 yrs ago-late.ti the game Makita I luv my Triple Hammer the best also-The triple hammer does what it's.supposed to do drive screws better than the others and my 18V Makita has done 2nd beast-my gen 3 Milwaukee has a bit more power for large lags bolts but I don't normally use the impact driver for large lags anyway-but the cruddy Milwaukee collet led me to get the triple hammer Not sure why guys have missed the Metabo HPT line-its great and has more if the onsite options I need
Fair review, I trust you in your tests/ opinion. Can't believe people wouldn't believe it if you say they are fully charged or 1 screw is further in then the other.
I doubt it. Their 36v line is a gimmick, because the higher voltage offers no increase in available power, because it has the exact same number of 18650 cells in the battery as the 18v. This means the two batteries have the same amount of power output available. The reason Flexvolt is so powerful isn't because it's 3 times the voltage, it's because they are 15 cell batteries not 10 cell batteries, and the bigger ones use 21700 cells not 18650s. This is also why the Milwaukee platform is able to match the power of Flexvolt at only 18v, because their big HO batteries are 10 and 15 cell 21700 batteries. These companies are using higher voltage as a marketing ploy, and a sneaky way to reduce backward or forward compatibility, so as to force the buying of more products. The only advantage with higher voltage is you can get a very slightly lighter motor for the same power, but you can get the exact same power output from a battery containing 10 2500mah 18650 cells whether they are wired to produce 18v or 36v. Let me know when Hikoki/Metabo HPT bring out bigger batteries, because my experience with their tools is they are OK, but their circ saws are gutless POS, that can't even keep up with Makitas base model 18v cordless saw, and their 36v stuff isn't significantly more powerful. They make decent enough tools, but really aren't nearly as good as Makita.
@@Patrick-857 Well, I really don’t know about all the details of battery output, motor size, etc. What I DO know is that I have used the Milwaukee Super Sawzall and the Metabo HPT recip saw side by side, and they are very comparable in power, speed, and vibration control. I’ve also used the green circular saw next to the Milwaukee Fuel (both gens), DeWalt Flexvolt, and Makita 36v saw, and I find that, while the Metabo HPT might not be “quite” as powerful as one or two of them, it is in the same league as these other saws, and it runs faster than one can safely and accurately make cuts in most situations. I’ve ripped 16’ rough-sawn wet hemlock boards with mine, no problem. Plenty of saw for me, and it’s significantly lighter and more compact than the other saws. Are they the best tools on the market? Probably not, but Metabo HPT is no slouch!
@@baraksinz As I said, they are decent, but I am almost entirely cordless now, and I'm glad I have two recips and two cordless circ saws. My 54v Dewalt circ saw is rough and not very well made tbh, but it has an absolutely insane amount of power, which allows me to be truly cordless and not even I'm a corded saw. My little 18v 6.5 inch saw is lovely for accurate work, but would struggle ripping wet lumber ect. If the tool works for you, that's the main thing. My point is that marketing should always be treated with suspicion, and these higher voltage tools are almost purely marketing, because the claims made by these companies contradict the laws of physics, and anybody familiar with Ohms Law understands this. Bigger batteries are a massive game changer, voltage is pretty much irrelevant, because you can build a motor to take full advantage of the maximum power available at any voltage. Car starter motors only run at 12v for example, but draw hundreds of amps. Voltage means nothing without also knowing current, and when you have those two factors you can figure out wattage which is the actual number that matters as it'sa unit of work, and that's the number cordless tool companies never tell you, because then consumers could make informed choices. Sorry. I'm glad you are happy with your tool, I love tools, I get it. This voltage thing is a pet peeve of mine though, because I feel these companies are taking advantage of people who don't know anything about electricity, just like companies who make compressors for consumers measure CFM at ambient pressure in their CFM rating rather than at the operating pressure, so they can make their POS machines look good on paper.
I still have most of my tools in 18V. Having said that there are some 40V tools that make me retire the 18V version of same tools. The makita finishing nailer 40V is one of them, it's as fast as I can use my finger and way better than my old 18V. I am making a lot of industrial steel furniture in TIG welding so a lot of grinding so I use a 40V grinder with variable velocity in something like 6000 rpm to don't cook the steel, amazing tool. But I agreed with you: for most of tools the 18V is enough. I use a old makita 12V screwdriver for electrical installations, lightweight, don't need a chunky 40V to this job. Last week I saw a contractor cutting tarmac with the new 40V x 2 to install a pipe and, man, insane power, more strong that a few combustion tools, the only drawback is that they told me that the batteries runs out in less than 10 minutes. I think that the new 40V x 2 have potential to substitute a lot of combustion heavy tools. The new 40V chainsaw is on my radar, appears to be a good use for this new platform.
I think the XGT tools will be good, like the rear handle saw or miter saw, but I wouldn’t bother with the impact driver or drill , I think 18 volt is good enough .
I love #toolsday Kyle! When I am scribing 2 layers of 3/4 oak floating shelves , the following are the Makita tools I use. 18v barrel grip jigsaw,x2 tracksaw,xs 10 inch mitersaw, and a Ridgid 18v shop vac with 1 adapter to use 18v Makita batteries. The vacuum comes with the ability to have 2# 18v batteries at a time,but 2 years ago I had to source the adapter from Ebay Australia and I only bought 1. It cost $75 back then,probably can get a 3d printed much cheaper now. Out of all the preceding tools,the vacuum only lasts for about 10 minutes, so in scribing I can discharge all 12 of my 5ahr batteries . I bought the Ridgid for the price,and the 9 gallons of capacity. However the run time could be helped with 1 or 2 40volt batteries. I can see where a 16 5/16 beam saw with 2# 40v batteries is possible. Your test didn't involve a high amp draw,so that is where I think they can improve on. So a 24 inch chainsaw,a vacuum, and a beam saw should be a possibility. I installed fence for 15 years,and always hoped that the MX cordless coredrill was possible, trying to carry a generator 1/4 mile through a beach resort was not much fun.
I have Milwaukee V28 tools from 05 and they still work. I used them for 14 years installing HVAC and fixing houses. I bought 2 new batteries(M28). The tools are immortal!
@@pointedspider Depends on your use case. I have found Makita to be the most durable followed by Dewalt. Dewalt is rough though, their tools aren't at all precise, whereas Makita is refined and has very good fit and finish. Milwaukee has really nice tools, with tons of power, but their electronics fail suddenly.
Our company used Makita for many years and switched to Milwaukee. I have noticed that Milwaukee hand tools do not last long. The motors burn out after constant use. I kept several Makita tools that the shop had for over 2yrs and they keep going.
To me its not about what impact is faster or other statistics around performance cause they all r very similar i try to buy of quality and longevity of a tool but those are two factors that r hard to measure and compare between one another
I looked around for a while before settling on Dewalt Flexvolt, after seeing all these other brands chopping and changing I know I made the right choice ,Flexvolt is future proof and is so powerful it will never be outdated.
@@RRBuildings Also don't tell me I need that new Makita. Saw you running that 18v one in the other videos so started building out a set. Love it. Got the 5ah battery and it runs screws all day on a charge. Wife's gonna kill me if I upgrade again. :)
@@johnvanderwielen1801 it would. Just compare it to makitas high output batteries. The 4.0ah & 5.0ah 40v makita batteries use 21700 cells just like the m18 high output. The 2.5 makita battery he used in the vid has 18650 cells.
Thanks so much for this metal roof series , I just happen to have a metal roof project I’m bidding on . Thanks for the helpful info to help me get started .
Would love to see the difference between the 40v 2.5 battery and 4.0 battery on that self feed wood bit. Makita 4.0 and 5.0 batteries are like the Milwaukee high output batteries. The 2.5 batteries have 18650 cells while the 4.0 & 5.0 uses the larger 21700 cells.
I feel like the pro grade tools are all going to perform pretty similarly. The question to me is...how long will the batteries last before I have to go and buy replacements. Especially if you live in a cold climate and your batteries are left in an unheated garage or shed during the winter.
I agree having had used/owned the big three. While I do have some preferences which include each manufacturer, cost reliability & ergos/ease of use take the cake.
I think the cold might actually be good for storage. Wanna warm em up before use though. Store at about 80% charge. That I know, the temperature stuff I'm guessing.
Those Makita Efficut blades are I reckon just as good as the Diablo blades. I've got a Makita Bluemak 60T blade on my 10 inch Ryobi drop saw and it is fantastic for finishing lines. Its a little bit too fine pitch for framing but that old saw has a lot of grunt to compensate
Kyle .. I do shit like that .. I purchase one tool.. a couple batteries and a charger.. for one purpose lol so this review helps me out a ton lol primarily own makita, but definitely have some Milwaukee’s and dewalts.
Kyle can you put something long in the drill driver and see if it has chuck wobble. I just picked up the 18volt and it has the wobble just like my older ones. I was told to send it in and seems they know they released a drill with issues. May be your contacts have answers that make sense because you buy it to use it not to wait for the bugs to get fixed first.
I went from 18v bosch blue to 40v XGT Makita. After 2 weeks i decided to make the makita my personal gear and put the bosch back in the ute for work. Why? The Bosch is just far more comfortable to use over an extended time. The XGT in my opinion is a conplete equall to corded power tools, maybe even better. This heavy duty power however makes them heavy and fatigueing.
For my light electrical work I use my Bosch 12V tools and everyone on the job site that tries them love them. Everyone else always uses 18V and they are so heavy and bulky and for 90% of the work it’s over kill
40V or 60V makes sense when you have to upgrade your inventory. Every 5 years or so your tools going to be just done. That is when you can replace your line up. Think about it as you trade your work truck in for the next gen same is with your tools. Still I would had loved more Makita 40V to be a dual 40V and 18V battery pack so you could slowly upgrade your systems. So far that's what most don't offer.
I've been watching Japanese videos on these tools for some time now. I cannot fathom why Makita wouldn't make the platform cross compatible like Hitachi did with the 18/36v.
The video is good! It kinda reinforces what we already know. It you are going to upgrade.......what are you gaining using a new battery platform. That is a lot of money to replace tools you already use. Now is the new tools made coffee in the morning..........:P
Absolutely it’s worth upgrading. Its the manly thing to do, just ask Tim the Tool Man Taylor!!! I’m gonna upgrade but I will also keep my 18 volt Makita tools.
I have been following you, your a tool collector. If you dont have it. It must suck bananas. Thanks for your videos. I'm honestly happy with my 20 volt. But better, is better.
Man I only found Kyles channel a week ago and I’ve watched nearly every vid lol LOVE IT. I don’t know why we don’t use post frame here in Ireland 🤔🤷🏻♂️
I think we all made the same face as Kyle when the 40V drill blew through the board. Made that huge self-feed bit look like a small ship auger lol. I said "Holy $#!+" at the same time he did! Gotta test that against a hole hawg
Excellent points. However, what are your thoughts on future proofing? As a new user I want to invest in something that will last me many years. Yes, Makita say they will support 18V for a long time and since so many are invested in it that seems legit. But what about 5 or 10 years down the line. I'm guessing all the new and best tech will be on 40V and there won't even be any new stuff on the 18V. Would you risk it as a new user to start investing in 18V now?
i don't think so. Some users said the same thing when 18V cames: that 12V will be dead but the CXT 12V Makita is still a hot seller due to portability and price. Several new tools are being launched only in 18V.
The free tool giveaways at HD are a pretty solid deal right now on the LXT. I just got a 36v (2x18v) Makita 7 1/4 saw kit with 2 batteries, charger AND a "free" angle ratchet, all for just 249.00. 2 of the 5 0 batteries with the charger by themselves are 199.00, so how could I resist? Even knowing it's the "older" style I have no problem sticking with 18v for a while. 19 Makita tools in and I'm very happy since my Dewalt conversion.
Great video. Is that Dewalt a gear drive saw? I just picked up two Milwaukee tool because I’ve seen them used buy my friend at his shop and I wanted it for use at my hose. Great tools.
Really love my Makita & Hitachi tools, aren't the most powerful but are definitely my preference when working with them all day. They excel in ergonomics & precision, making them my go to tools. I just wish Makita would have went backward compatible like HPT's Multivolt.
The biggest reason makita made it a whole new platform is because they needed to completely redesign the battery terminal connectors on the batteries to handle more power going through them. They needed to make them double the size. The current design of the lxt makita batteries has been around since 2005. 16 years. They probably didn’t realize how much batteries would improve in the future and the terminals wer never intended for the current demands of modern tools. No other tool brand has kept their battery platform the same for that long, and makita isn’t ditching the 18v lineup any time soon.
@@banannaninja I understand, just disappointed because Hitachi/Hikoki was able to do it with their batteries & they have been the same since 2006. They just added the extra pins on the 36v tools & their Multivolt batteries to make it 18v/36v compatible. With Hikoki/HPT 18v/36v & DeWalt's 20v/60v, I feel Makita could've made it work but I know they are very sensitive with their battery tech, like when they switched to their Star Protection & some of their older batteries wouldnt slide onto newer LXT tools or how they disable them when their chargers detect issues. I will be adding more powerful tools from Multivolt or Flexvolt in the future rather than investing in Makita 40v, but I'll continue to use their LXT 18v since they are so good.
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
We are building a shed and bought this to assist us Does not include any type of blueprints but very helpful to remind you about permits, different ways of doing the foundation or roof ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxcLVQopTIucrxiVRQA0khLGQEnDVKCSMG and why they need to be that way, it also includes "pro tips" and lots of pictures and videos Very informative! I also bought it used for 3.18 plus shipping and in "good" condition. It had a little dent on the cover but that was it. Glad I bought it!
It is a very good book for beginners as well as for those that are already into ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt A very good basic ebook to keep as a reference too. I like it and the way the subject matter is presented. It has humor and that helps with the reading.
Makita does like no advertising and not known by many these days... but as far as power, quality, ergonomics, safety, price, sheer number of tools... can't go wrong with Makita
You know.. instead of spending thousands or millions in advertising, maybe spend it on something more useful.
My boos just brought all the 40v and the drill is a monster. Drilled 16mm holes through 300mm lvl and pine framing on a whole house on one battery total of 170 holes no break to let it cool down. Dont have to drag a lead around anymore. Absolutely brilliant
Took a risk and bought the 40v impact driver 6 months ago, I am so glad I did because it’s the best impact driver I’ve ever used, and I’ve used gen 3. The powers the same but the trigger and build quality is way better. At work we run all Milwaukee tools so I was wondering if the single battery would be a problem but it lasts like 3x as long as any Milwaukee battery and it’s guaranteed to last the whole day no matter how hard you run it. It doesn’t even slow down on GRK’s and Lags, 10/10 would recommend. It’s a stand alone tool that you can buy even if you’re on a different platform but want a better impact driver
How much cost u ??
@@marcosquevedo6591 just purchased a made in Japan model for $200 usd
I went with the 40v makita they make the best I’ve been in construction for over 25 years
The look on your face when you drilled through that wood... Priceless!
It's exciting that for years tool companies have been obsessed with power and runtime - so now 5 year old branded 18v tools are still competitive and durable. These companies will now have to innovate and look at more fundamental reasons for us to buy new tools. The 18v Makita platform might be only 90% as good as the new line ... However I remember the days when you bought an 18v circular saw and it could barely cut Hardboard. There was a reason 15 - 20 years ago to upgrade ... in the last couple of years battery powered tools are so durable, high powered and effective.... whats next? genuine innovation, accuracy, convenience, customer service? it will be interesting to see where they go to tempt us to spend our hard earned money.
Big Makita fanboy here. I sold power tools for a few years and have been in the industry for 27 years.
The way this was explained to me by the Rep was the new Makita 40v works much like the DeWalt 20v system..... you get max power until the tool and battery talk and decide that enough is enough and then drop to 18v. I still haven't been told what the Makita benchmark is, but DeWalt is 90% charge.
I will say that I own the entire line of Makita 36v tools and I wouldn't give them up for anything. They may or may not have more power than the next tool, but I can work all day long and those tools will not die.
Holy cow that hole cutting with the XGT was unreal
It was.
Battery life is actually noticeably better. The drill is a beast, so is the 18V 481, but the electronics make a big difference for peace of mind. The drill and driver are not enough to switch though as you said. But with the free battery that comes with most tools Makita make it easy to start with the new system.
The mitre saw is impressive too apparently, even if it is expensive.
Milwaukee = Power king. Makita = King of precision. They're not weak (just a little less power than milwaukee) but far more precise and far better ergonomically.
My Milwaukee platforms 18 and 12 have been really ergonomic and quality nightmares. I also have the Hilti 22V and 12V as well as the DeWalt - either of which is superior to Milwaukee when it comes to reliability and practical usability. Nearly all my corded tools are Makita. They have all been flawless. They are comfortable and light, and I don't mind the cord. If I had to do the battery again, it would be Makita and Hilti, no questions asked.
@@MintStiles m12 has the worst ergonomics, specially the grip.
@@Igor-q3f Definitely! You'd have to have gorilla hands to grip around the thing.
Actually the new makita 3/4 has as much power as the 1" Milwaukee
Been having this argument with my Dad. I like Mikita. I work on boats/yachts. Enough said. Not with Dad. Lol😜
I love honest reviews..... I salute you sir for your pure real talk
With lumber prices it was probably $5 a cut and $5 a hole. It's crazy right now. Love the video and thank you for the comparison.
I’ve got a few XGT tools now. 270mm circ saw is brilliant, oodles of power, 100mm depth rip on dry gnarly english oak, track compatible, surprisingly light too. Planer has insane power and lasts for ages. 3/4” impact is a monster too.
I feel like with impact drivers, at some point the extra torque you could get from a higher voltage battery exceeds the capability of the hammer mechanics. That’s why you see negligible difference with the speed tests. Impact drivers rely more on the speed and weight of the anvil, so unless you put heavier anvils and increase the speed, torque isn’t really a big factor. Now with straight drilling, torque is the main factor and you can see the Makita 40v really shine.
I just got myself a set of XGT impact and drill- I've notice that they no longer use a smooth trigger with unlimited control, they use a step-style trigger like milwaukee and others- my makita hammer drill has that perfect smooth full control trigger, so you get one speed, then steps up to the next speed, etc when pulling the trigger.
probably doesnt really change anything in real world usage but something note worthy and something i wanted to know before purchasing to manage expectations.
IMO the benefits of an smooth trigger, is starting a drill point or screw for some finer finish work. but for the most part, regular use for these type of tools, not something to worry about.
A+ review! Thank you Kyle for not taking $$ from these companies and proving and honest man's review of their performance!
I have mostly Milwaukee cordless because their line is pretty robust but I do have a few DeWalt, Makita cordless tools. This just showed me, all premium brands basically perform the same. I am however very interested in that Makita 40V circ saw. I like how compact and smooth it operates.
I have the 10 1/4" one and it has been the only one we use now, the Milwaulkees sit in the box now. It is super smooth and has crazy long battery life even cutting 4x4's!
The light placement on Makita's 40v is a little better thought out. Seems small, but helpful when needed.
Also, I'd love to see the chop saw and router tests
12:57 "I gotta stop wasting this lumber, guys. This stuff is like gold." Ya right, that board already looks like Swiss cheese. Nice clear board too.
It was warped as can be actually
Funny, I was like- there goes 50$ of wood, LoL. At least here in CA!
@Dan H. better check your calendar bud, Katrina was in '05. But regardless, natural disasters do influence building materials. It's not localized however. They trend up nationally.
I didn't know about your channel until very recently but I subscribed after watching just two videos. You do a great job.
The power from the 40v was reason enough but the anti kickback sold me . I’m buying it this weekend
Greetings from Denmark. I enjoy your videos man!
Thanks for this fine presentation, I still run my Porter Cable 18 volt that I have about 7 tools and 3 third party batters for it...I bought the kit about 13 years ago ,..and Im ready to upgrade to the Makita 18 volt XLT, and give the Porter Cable tools to my son whose living in one of my rentals..He'll love it, I mean half the tools is over his house as it is.
Idea is that you buy big tool like a rotary hammer drill and then you dont need two battery lines because XGT line has all the tool LXT has
The LXT tool line has over 200 tool options. I think it’s 206 or 216 in total. Makita has the biggest cordless line on the market
@@bamaboy9133 I agree, thats the main reason Makita is good.
@@stensihver9925 Quality > Quantity.
@@svn5994 their quality is still top notch
I’m with you. I’d only get the 40v if I had to get something like a circular Saw or a big rotary hammer. I’m extremely happy with my 18v Makita.
I just bought the newest 18v Makita hammer drill and impact combo because I needed to replace a old Dewalt 20v hammer drill and the ergos and compact size are awesome. I have that flexvolt circ saw and it's a great saw. Thanks for the look at the tools.
As usual an HONEST review... which makes your opinions mean more IMO👍
9:12 👀 next level
Never been a fan of milwaukee, makita looks really solid.
All my tools are Bosch, and never had any problems with any. Just got the 18v bi turbo sds plus, 5.1 joules of impact energy, or 4.3 ft pounds.
I love Bosch and Makita. So far I’ve been the only one on the job sites with Bosch and older Makita 18V. I pretty much only see Dewalt, Milwaukee and then Makita. Some of the guys have Ryobi as well.
The Makita XGT grinder is also a huge leap over the latest LXT grinder from what I’ve seen. It looks like a beast.
I've been using one for 6 months it's a beast
you are right I am using it in hardcore more here in Brazil making industrial furniture, it's as effective as my 2000w corded bosh grinder! For stainless steel the hability of reduce speed it's a must to don't cook the material.
Loved the video. I'm a dewalt guy but I know that there are better tools out there. I already have the battery platform and I can't justify buying another brand when these do what I need them to.
Battery platform is what it really comes down to. They will all get the job done.
I love your perspective Kyle!
Love the triple hammer and the colour green. I’ve been a Dewalt guy for years but slowly starting to bring in Metabo.
Do you mean the real german metabo or the metabo hpt brand?
HPT brother(Hikoki)
@@derdude8201 Metabo HTP
I definitely feel like the extra lighting on the left side of the shop was an advantage to the Milwaukee. If you could make the light more balanced I'd think it would make for a more accurate comparison.
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Gold.
From the job site to kitchen back to landscaping thanks for the video mang
Metabo HPT Triple Hammer 36v is an awesome impact driver! Speed isn’t everything. Love the ergos and how smooth it runs.
Metabo HPT deserves more attention than it gets!
nice testing, thanks! BTW there is a new gen2 makita 40v sawzall and it is most powerful cordless on the market right now and it has orbital also.
Great video thanks for uploading
I luv my Makita tools and I'm sure that they will perform well but I have slowly converted my Milwaukee and Makita tools(where it makes sense) to Metabo HPT 36V-Metabo HPT made their Multivolt 36V batteries backwards compatible with the 18V tools and allow for the AC adapter option-Makita should have at least done the backwards compatibility as Metabo already showed it is possible and they entered the market 3 yrs ago-late.ti the game Makita
I luv my Triple Hammer the best also-The triple hammer does what it's.supposed to do drive screws better than the others and my 18V Makita has done 2nd beast-my gen 3 Milwaukee has a bit more power for large lags bolts but I don't normally use the impact driver for large lags anyway-but the cruddy Milwaukee collet led me to get the triple hammer
Not sure why guys have missed the Metabo HPT line-its great and has more if the onsite options I need
Fair review, I trust you in your tests/ opinion. Can't believe people wouldn't believe it if you say they are fully charged or 1 screw is further in then the other.
Trust me people find anyway to pick apart a test or review that doesn’t align with their opinion...
@@RRBuildings only the closed-minded morons do that lol
Kyle please try and compare the new FLEX power tools.
Kyle, have you tried the Metabo HPT 36v recip saw? It’ll give the Milwaukee a run for its money. Great saw!
Yep! Smoother as well. Love mine.
I doubt it. Their 36v line is a gimmick, because the higher voltage offers no increase in available power, because it has the exact same number of 18650 cells in the battery as the 18v. This means the two batteries have the same amount of power output available. The reason Flexvolt is so powerful isn't because it's 3 times the voltage, it's because they are 15 cell batteries not 10 cell batteries, and the bigger ones use 21700 cells not 18650s. This is also why the Milwaukee platform is able to match the power of Flexvolt at only 18v, because their big HO batteries are 10 and 15 cell 21700 batteries.
These companies are using higher voltage as a marketing ploy, and a sneaky way to reduce backward or forward compatibility, so as to force the buying of more products. The only advantage with higher voltage is you can get a very slightly lighter motor for the same power, but you can get the exact same power output from a battery containing 10 2500mah 18650 cells whether they are wired to produce 18v or 36v. Let me know when Hikoki/Metabo HPT bring out bigger batteries, because my experience with their tools is they are OK, but their circ saws are gutless POS, that can't even keep up with Makitas base model 18v cordless saw, and their 36v stuff isn't significantly more powerful. They make decent enough tools, but really aren't nearly as good as Makita.
@@Patrick-857 Well, I really don’t know about all the details of battery output, motor size, etc. What I DO know is that I have used the Milwaukee Super Sawzall and the Metabo HPT recip saw side by side, and they are very comparable in power, speed, and vibration control. I’ve also used the green circular saw next to the Milwaukee Fuel (both gens), DeWalt Flexvolt, and Makita 36v saw, and I find that, while the Metabo HPT might not be “quite” as powerful as one or two of them, it is in the same league as these other saws, and it runs faster than one can safely and accurately make cuts in most situations. I’ve ripped 16’ rough-sawn wet hemlock boards with mine, no problem. Plenty of saw for me, and it’s significantly lighter and more compact than the other saws. Are they the best tools on the market? Probably not, but Metabo HPT is no slouch!
@@baraksinz As I said, they are decent, but I am almost entirely cordless now, and I'm glad I have two recips and two cordless circ saws. My 54v Dewalt circ saw is rough and not very well made tbh, but it has an absolutely insane amount of power, which allows me to be truly cordless and not even I'm a corded saw. My little 18v 6.5 inch saw is lovely for accurate work, but would struggle ripping wet lumber ect. If the tool works for you, that's the main thing. My point is that marketing should always be treated with suspicion, and these higher voltage tools are almost purely marketing, because the claims made by these companies contradict the laws of physics, and anybody familiar with Ohms Law understands this. Bigger batteries are a massive game changer, voltage is pretty much irrelevant, because you can build a motor to take full advantage of the maximum power available at any voltage. Car starter motors only run at 12v for example, but draw hundreds of amps. Voltage means nothing without also knowing current, and when you have those two factors you can figure out wattage which is the actual number that matters as it'sa unit of work, and that's the number cordless tool companies never tell you, because then consumers could make informed choices.
Sorry. I'm glad you are happy with your tool, I love tools, I get it. This voltage thing is a pet peeve of mine though, because I feel these companies are taking advantage of people who don't know anything about electricity, just like companies who make compressors for consumers measure CFM at ambient pressure in their CFM rating rather than at the operating pressure, so they can make their POS machines look good on paper.
@@Patrick-857 Metabo HPT 36v 4ah batteries contain the 21700 cells.
We run all dewalt with 60v batteries, I wish you had one in there. I'm curuous as to how it would compare.
It Will lose to Milwaukee
@@kalle8836 Milwaukee drills outperform Milwaukee by a mile.
I still have most of my tools in 18V. Having said that there are some 40V tools that make me retire the 18V version of same tools. The makita finishing nailer 40V is one of them, it's as fast as I can use my finger and way better than my old 18V. I am making a lot of industrial steel furniture in TIG welding so a lot of grinding so I use a 40V grinder with variable velocity in something like 6000 rpm to don't cook the steel, amazing tool. But I agreed with you: for most of tools the 18V is enough. I use a old makita 12V screwdriver for electrical installations, lightweight, don't need a chunky 40V to this job. Last week I saw a contractor cutting tarmac with the new 40V x 2 to install a pipe and, man, insane power, more strong that a few combustion tools, the only drawback is that they told me that the batteries runs out in less than 10 minutes. I think that the new 40V x 2 have potential to substitute a lot of combustion heavy tools. The new 40V chainsaw is on my radar, appears to be a good use for this new platform.
Did the milwaukee have the clutch engaged? I have the same m18 and noticed it stop here earlier than I would have expected
I think the XGT tools will be good, like the rear handle saw or miter saw, but I wouldn’t bother with the impact driver or drill , I think 18 volt is good enough .
The 40v driver seems about the same as 18v, but the 40v drill is killer.
The 40v drill kicks out over 1hp
I love #toolsday Kyle!
When I am scribing 2 layers of 3/4 oak floating shelves , the following are the Makita tools I use.
18v barrel grip jigsaw,x2 tracksaw,xs 10 inch mitersaw, and a Ridgid 18v shop vac with 1 adapter to use 18v Makita batteries.
The vacuum comes with the ability to have 2# 18v batteries at a time,but 2 years ago I had to source the adapter from Ebay Australia and I only bought 1.
It cost $75 back then,probably can get a 3d printed much cheaper now.
Out of all the preceding tools,the vacuum only lasts for about 10 minutes, so in scribing I can discharge all 12 of my 5ahr batteries .
I bought the Ridgid for the price,and the 9 gallons of capacity.
However the run time could be helped with 1 or 2 40volt batteries.
I can see where a 16 5/16 beam saw with 2# 40v batteries is possible.
Your test didn't involve a high amp draw,so that is where I think they can improve on.
So a 24 inch chainsaw,a vacuum, and a beam saw should be a possibility.
I installed fence for 15 years,and always hoped that the MX cordless coredrill was possible, trying to carry a generator 1/4 mile through a beach resort was not much fun.
I’ve always liked makita. Milwaukee tools are cool but they break fast for some reason
I have Milwaukee V28 tools from 05 and they still work. I used them for 14 years installing HVAC and fixing houses. I bought 2 new batteries(M28). The tools are immortal!
@@pointedspider Depends on your use case. I have found Makita to be the most durable followed by Dewalt. Dewalt is rough though, their tools aren't at all precise, whereas Makita is refined and has very good fit and finish. Milwaukee has really nice tools, with tons of power, but their electronics fail suddenly.
Agreed , i found my Milwaukee gear very unreliable
Our company used Makita for many years and switched to Milwaukee. I have noticed that Milwaukee hand tools do not last long. The motors burn out after constant use. I kept several Makita tools that the shop had for over 2yrs and they keep going.
I’ve had my Milwaukee tools forever no issues, you can’t go wrong with the big 3 whatever one you go with
To me its not about what impact is faster or other statistics around performance cause they all r very similar i try to buy of quality and longevity of a tool but those are two factors that r hard to measure and compare between one another
Now I want a Metabo impact driver..
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Been about it yeah lol
It's only $279 at Lowe's, and comes with two 4/8AH batteries and the hard case.
DeWalt 60v adds a lot to the table but works on the 20 lineup. No need to change yet.
I bought dewalt because of the flexvolt and I'm not disappointed at all the skillsaw is a monster, I don't ever pick up a corded saw anymore
I looked around for a while before settling on Dewalt Flexvolt, after seeing all these other brands chopping and changing I know I made the right choice ,Flexvolt is future proof and is so powerful it will never be outdated.
Thank you Kyle. Helpful. Take care.
I really like your approach to this review
Haha first RR video there at the intro...that's funny bud. Good one. Been watching for years.
Haha thanks bro
@@RRBuildings Also don't tell me I need that new Makita. Saw you running that 18v one in the other videos so started building out a set. Love it. Got the 5ah battery and it runs screws all day on a charge. Wife's gonna kill me if I upgrade again. :)
Don't underestimate the difference a high output battery can make. Great video!
Wouldn’t be a fair test that way
@@johnvanderwielen1801 it would. Just compare it to makitas high output batteries. The 4.0ah & 5.0ah 40v makita batteries use 21700 cells just like the m18 high output. The 2.5 makita battery he used in the vid has 18650 cells.
@Matt Ryan ah, that’s a little lame.
Thanks so much for this metal roof series , I just happen to have a metal roof project I’m bidding on . Thanks for the helpful info to help me get started .
I love my 7 1/4 rear handle 40v and the 40v impact and hammer drill. Even their 6in grinder is sweet. But m18 super sawzall all day for sawzalls.
Would love to see the difference between the 40v 2.5 battery and 4.0 battery on that self feed wood bit. Makita 4.0 and 5.0 batteries are like the Milwaukee high output batteries. The 2.5 batteries have 18650 cells while the 4.0 & 5.0 uses the larger 21700 cells.
I feel like the pro grade tools are all going to perform pretty similarly. The question to me is...how long will the batteries last before I have to go and buy replacements. Especially if you live in a cold climate and your batteries are left in an unheated garage or shed during the winter.
I agree having had used/owned the big three. While I do have some preferences which include each manufacturer, cost reliability & ergos/ease of use take the cake.
I think the cold might actually be good for storage. Wanna warm em up before use though. Store at about 80% charge. That I know, the temperature stuff I'm guessing.
Those Makita Efficut blades are I reckon just as good as the Diablo blades. I've got a Makita Bluemak 60T blade on my 10 inch Ryobi drop saw and it is fantastic for finishing lines. Its a little bit too fine pitch for framing but that old saw has a lot of grunt to compensate
Are you gonna try the new flex tools?
Looks like you have a great bunch of tools there, I would love to have 1/3 of them to use. Great heads up video of them working side by side.
Kyle .. I do shit like that .. I purchase one tool.. a couple batteries and a charger.. for one purpose lol so this review helps me out a ton lol primarily own makita, but definitely have some Milwaukee’s and dewalts.
Love your videos. Keep ‘em rolling
I have the XGT hedge trimmer and blower. Both excellent, I bought for the extra power these tools provide. Both are night and day over the 18v.
Good review, keep em coming, 👍👍👍👍👍
Kyle can you put something long in the drill driver and see if it has chuck wobble. I just picked up the 18volt and it has the wobble just like my older ones. I was told to send it in and seems they know they released a drill with issues. May be your contacts have answers that make sense because you buy it to use it not to wait for the bugs to get fixed first.
40 volts on a drill feels a bit like the V8 blender they did on top gear.
I went from 18v bosch blue to 40v XGT Makita. After 2 weeks i decided to make the makita my personal gear and put the bosch back in the ute for work. Why? The Bosch is just far more comfortable to use over an extended time.
The XGT in my opinion is a conplete equall to corded power tools, maybe even better. This heavy duty power however makes them heavy and fatigueing.
Exactly. It's why i love my old 12V Makita screwdriver for light electrical work,. it's insanely lightweight.
For my light electrical work I use my Bosch 12V tools and everyone on the job site that tries them love them. Everyone else always uses 18V and they are so heavy and bulky and for 90% of the work it’s over kill
I enjoy from your video 😊. Keep making more video 😊
I was impressed with that hammer drill
I've gone backwards. I'm liking my Makita sub compact 18v line better than my regular LXT 18v.
40V or 60V makes sense when you have to upgrade your inventory. Every 5 years or so your tools going to be just done. That is when you can replace your line up.
Think about it as you trade your work truck in for the next gen same is with your tools. Still I would had loved more Makita 40V to be a dual 40V and 18V battery pack so you could slowly upgrade your systems. So far that's what most don't offer.
The makita 40v skill saw is nice but I wish it could be tweaked just a little. After using the milwaukee 6 1/2 saw
I've been watching Japanese videos on these tools for some time now. I cannot fathom why Makita wouldn't make the platform cross compatible like Hitachi did with the 18/36v.
A lot of makita's 36v tools have the batteries right next to each other so they'd never work with wider batteries.
It's two different markets.
40v single battery track saw. Nice. Up until recently, their compact blower - now they also have an 18v version.
The video is good! It kinda reinforces what we already know. It you are going to upgrade.......what are you gaining using a new battery platform. That is a lot of money to replace tools you already use. Now is the new tools made coffee in the morning..........:P
Absolutely it’s worth upgrading. Its the manly thing to do, just ask Tim the Tool Man Taylor!!! I’m gonna upgrade but I will also keep my 18 volt Makita tools.
Think I'll keep my Metabo HTP recip saw and impact driver and my 60v 9 amp hour DeWALT circular saw
Finally the XGT 40V in USA review! Great!
Good honest review
As a plumber I’m a Milwaukee guy, I don’t drill big holes with my drill, Milwaukee has a great hole hog for that
Im an Electrician and have the Makita 18v line, the way i see it if the power isn't needed no need to get this 40v platform
I'm over here side-eyeing my 10 - 15 year old 18v Firestorm products. I'm guessing it's probably worth upgrading my kit at this point.
Lol Firestorm
Yeah, even the ryobi stuff is better
@@toddcote4904 Not when they first came out
@@loucifer323
Certainly. The key word in the OP was "at this point".
Please do the same tests with the flex tool line.
I have been following you, your a tool collector. If you dont have it. It must suck bananas. Thanks for your videos. I'm honestly happy with my 20 volt. But better, is better.
Man I only found Kyles channel a week ago and I’ve watched nearly every vid lol LOVE IT. I don’t know why we don’t use post frame here in Ireland 🤔🤷🏻♂️
17:22 OH, we all know you and Greg are keeping those XGT impact & hammer drill drivers🤣
I think we all made the same face as Kyle when the 40V drill blew through the board.
Made that huge self-feed bit look like a small ship auger lol.
I said "Holy $#!+" at the same time he did!
Gotta test that against a hole hawg
Thanks Kyle
The 40v batteries might be more convenient for landscaping tools that currently need two 18v batteries.
The XGT grinder and big rear handle saw are excellent. Corded hand tools belong to museum now.
for contractors. For industrial use like shipyards a corded grinder works usually 8hs a day straight!
Excellent points. However, what are your thoughts on future proofing? As a new user I want to invest in something that will last me many years. Yes, Makita say they will support 18V for a long time and since so many are invested in it that seems legit. But what about 5 or 10 years down the line. I'm guessing all the new and best tech will be on 40V and there won't even be any new stuff on the 18V. Would you risk it as a new user to start investing in 18V now?
i don't think so. Some users said the same thing when 18V cames: that 12V will be dead but the CXT 12V Makita is still a hot seller due to portability and price. Several new tools are being launched only in 18V.
Nicely done!
What store so you got the 12 inch screw's in your impact test?
The free tool giveaways at HD are a pretty solid deal right now on the LXT. I just got a 36v (2x18v) Makita 7 1/4 saw kit with 2 batteries, charger AND a "free" angle ratchet, all for just 249.00. 2 of the 5 0 batteries with the charger by themselves are 199.00, so how could I resist?
Even knowing it's the "older" style I have no problem sticking with 18v for a while. 19 Makita tools in and I'm very happy since my Dewalt conversion.
Great video. Is that Dewalt a gear drive saw? I just picked up two Milwaukee tool because I’ve seen them used buy my friend at his shop and I wanted it for use at my hose. Great tools.
At 74, I probable will never invest in the 40volt platform. My question is "how much heavier are they than the 20 volt equipment?
From my experience, the batteries are a little bit bulkier and heavier but other than that they are pretty much the same, not too noticeable
Really love my Makita & Hitachi tools, aren't the most powerful but are definitely my preference when working with them all day. They excel in ergonomics & precision, making them my go to tools. I just wish Makita would have went backward compatible like HPT's Multivolt.
The biggest reason makita made it a whole new platform is because they needed to completely redesign the battery terminal connectors on the batteries to handle more power going through them. They needed to make them double the size. The current design of the lxt makita batteries has been around since 2005. 16 years. They probably didn’t realize how much batteries would improve in the future and the terminals wer never intended for the current demands of modern tools. No other tool brand has kept their battery platform the same for that long, and makita isn’t ditching the 18v lineup any time soon.
@@banannaninja I understand, just disappointed because Hitachi/Hikoki was able to do it with their batteries & they have been the same since 2006. They just added the extra pins on the 36v tools & their Multivolt batteries to make it 18v/36v compatible. With Hikoki/HPT 18v/36v & DeWalt's 20v/60v, I feel Makita could've made it work but I know they are very sensitive with their battery tech, like when they switched to their Star Protection & some of their older batteries wouldnt slide onto newer LXT tools or how they disable them when their chargers detect issues. I will be adding more powerful tools from Multivolt or Flexvolt in the future rather than investing in Makita 40v, but I'll continue to use their LXT 18v since they are so good.