Quartering in Shot for Bowhunters Part 1
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2020
- Video #1 about the often misunderstood quartering to shot. Three options:
1. Pass the shot - I'm ok with that.
2. Pound the shoulder (hate mail galore, adult arrow suggested)
3. PRAY you hit something vital
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This channel is like a TED talk that doesn’t blow.
Probably the best description of RF
Lol yes
You've converted me. Last year I shot two deer with my rifle and had to track both (never found the first one). I started studying shot placement, including your videos. Using your method, I took one shot this season and it dropped right where it stood. Like they say, "follow the science!"
Part 2 coming soon!!
I appreciate the chalk talk on these videos. The lethality of bowhunting is a topic that needs to be focused on more. Big fan of your message.
Hey RF. I shot one quartering to. 700 grains total weight kinetic kaos, cutthroat 200 up front with weighted insert. Went through shoulder blade and busted it, cut a rib in two, lung, sliced a nice gusher between the lungs, liver, through back rib opposite side. Didn't live 10 seconds. Thank you for the videos!!
Good video. Always learning new things and I have been bow hunting for 35 years now. Best arrow set up I have ever had is from watching your videos. I am more confident in my set up now then I have ever been. Thanks for being you and pumping out these awesome to the point and no BS videos.
This is why I built an adult arrow. Great to understand these shots better. Thanks for doing this
I love the amount of work you put into researching shots. Your channel is awesome! Keep up the great work
Enjoyed the video as always, brother. Love what y'all are doing for our sport
Excellent use of video experiences and the hunter's own explanations to detail what you are saying. This is a great way to illustrate your advice and its rationale, while moving additional people toward more effective gear and tactics.
RF I am glad you and the Hunting Public are working together. I learned of you thru watching one of their podcast. Glad I did. When a person switches to an adult arrow setup the mind has to select a better aiming point. Thanks for what you do!
This why I appreciate your videos and THP!! I learn so much! Already going through the process for next year.
I have complete confidence in my adult arrow 615 grains TAW. My last public land buck was quartering to me and he only went 50 yards crashed. Thank you Troy.
😎My two favorite UA-cam channels.
No more disposable blade broadheads for me! Thanks Ranch Fairy👍Watching Deer tip over in sight is cool, and fun.
Shooting too low and back from a stand has been a weakness of mine for some time. In most cases, the shot placement when you do find the deer is so different than where you thought you hit. Glad to see I'm not the only one who struggles with this.
It’s a common thing. It just looks better. Video # 2 is coming up. Much more informative
Brother---I've learned so much watching YOUR videos. Keep on keeping on!
I love your style, straight shooter. I've been learning a lot from your videos. I'm still working for my first deer before the season ends.
Everything you say( at least hunting related, lol) just makes sense. Thanks for putting the info out there. I love your channel bro!
Good scientific approach to shot placement and penetration, keep it up. Thanks
Took 1 buck and 3 hogs last yr and it all about shot placement. Hog 1, 2 and 3 dropped right where they stood .the buck went 25 yrds .hunt private property and bow season was canceled so rifle is was .this year bow season not allowed again so have to wait until November which sucks . As always great job ranch fairy
Man troy! I frigging love your content!!!!!! Its helped me out soo much thank you and keep up the great videos!
Just a note to say thanks. I added 150 grains of weight to my carbon arrows this season. I've had way to many deer look like they got hit with a twig when my arrows were making contact. This year with added weight arrow was 550 grains. Hard quartering shot arrow had a long way to go. Went in just back of left shoulder and exited with approximately 14 inches of arrow passing through. I believe the added weight was the key. Deer dropped in 25 yards. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
I need me some of them new tuff heads. Exactly the weight and style I have been searching for!
Presale starts Jan 1st!
The wisdom of the Ranch Fairy is just endless! Thank you Ranch Fairy, thanks to you I now shoot a 660 grain 250 spine arrow and it's an absolute bone crusher.
Better shoot less than 30 yrds
Thanks fairy always a pleasure and ALWAYS educational and adult drivin fun.
I shot aluminums and fixed blades long after everyone went to carbon and mechanicals. Usually stayed away from leg bones but punched thru allot of shoulder blades. I would hear stories of arrows stopping on shoulder blades and wondered how. Then I swithed to twizzlers and flappers. All of the sudden my shot placement didnt work. Was condidering going back to aluminums and zwickeys when i found the ranch fairy. Now my 250 spine arrows weigh 650 grains with single bevels up front. This is the best setup out there. I hunt places I cant afford to track a deer very far so breaking a shoulder is a great way to slow them down. Love these videos. Keep it up.
Thanks for advice. You gave me the confidence to take a good forward shot on a relaxed very nice 8pt. My biggest archery buck so far. Deer went 75yds after I pounded the shoulder with my new bow adult set up
BOOM
Great job explaining this. Look forward to the next video!
Nice video, well thought out and put together.
This was a very informative and cool video. Love the hunting public and love ranch fairy.
Just ordered my Ranch Fairy field point kits, to start my journey to building and shooting adult arrows.
Fixing to start bow season here-Louisiana- I kill a lot of pigs -public-ground -when i hunt deer-invariably they never come from the direction i am suspecting-hardly ever get the classic broadside shot-hardest shot for me are those within 10 yards -15-20 ft up-I try to aim just forward of the shoulder-qtr2-and qtr away just behind the crease-no bait-deer usually moving-lost one that i hit low qtr away-really enjoy the tutorials-they get me to focus on placement not just to hit the deer somewhere and pray
The vitals never change location.
The animals body moves around
Cannot WAIT for part 2!
Great video. Looking forward to the next one. I shot the biggest buck I’ve ever seen this past week pretty far forward because he jump the string and rotated. Tracked him 175 yards and never found him
That's a horrible feeling. Bummer. I've thought about advertising to help guys locally, track their deer, just because the more eyes on the ground, the better the chances of recovery. I found the carcass of a massive doe. The biggest one I've ever seen. The hit was low and back in the lungs and she laid down in tall, thick grass to be found by yotes. 😔 I've offered to help a lot of hunters track, but most of them turn my offer down. I just want to see hunters succeed.
I have always shot with a rifle for center shoulder ball opposite side. I have not lost a deer with a rifle in well 10 plus years at least. I’m shooting a 608 grain crossbow bolt in a 425 rated crossbow. I worked up a 100 brass insert and 150 head and pile-driver 20. Weighed on a grain scale at 608. I shot a big doe in Illinois this past year quartering hard forward. Bolt slipped in just left of front left shoulder into brisket, traveled through the top and bottom of the heart center shot, exited back lungs opposite opposing side then went another 30 yards into the dirt. Blood was phenomenal. Deer went 30 yards, did a circle, sprayed everything around with blood like a pressure sprayer putting out fertilizer … then simply expired dead DRT. Blood trail a blind man could follow. Recovery was the easiest in my archery hunting career. I have a video of it but don’t know how to post In comments here. My point is your advice and insight for archers is invaluable! Thanks much. I had missed or wounded a bunch back in my vertical bow days more due to shot placement probably than anything else. I always tried to avoid the shoulder “ball” with archery equipment until I started honing into what you are telling us. Now, I do shoot a mechanical so you can hate or shake head back and fort. It’s a 150 Sevr Robusto. But anyway … work in progress. Thanks for the information always RF. Until I see a real reason to switch back to a fixed, I’m gonna stay with this set up. But I know I have BH options. We will see what the future tells me to do. Those Sevrs are just so field point accurate… Appreciate you bud.
Great video,can’t wait for part 2
Great video, excited for part 2
For anyone reading this it doesn't matter what your weapon of choice is for hunting, you owe it to the animal to shoot the most lethal projectile and deliver the quickest kill as HUMANLY possible! For your game of choice
I definitely want to look into those new broadheads.. they look freaking awesome
Troy, I've got 200 gr Evos pre-ordered. Can't wait to put them to work!
Great info. It happens if you shoot at enough deer. One major contributing factor is around and during the rut bucks seem to hardly ever stop moving. It's not like standing at the 3-d range hardly ever.
Video 2 is coming up
Looking "forward" to part two...
I see what you did there
Lite arrows are like bullets,
Heavy arrows are like canon balls
I liken it to a 55 gr 223 and 405 gr 45/70. Bigger is always better
Thanks so mycy for this video! I really need this before October 1st, even know last year I made a heart shot, but deer was broadside 10 yards, I just want to be ready incase I have to make these shots
Thanks, good information. Hunting public boys are serious hunters, seem to be doing it on a shoe string budget.
Here I was going to my local archery shop today trying to give some business.Well when he asked what I needed I told him and he laughed.I explained what I’ve been watching and he still kind of laughed. He is telling me there is no way this works and I tried to get him to watch it and he said he doesn’t need to.So I guess I do it elsewhere.
Sirius archery.com “All things ranch fairy” section!
Liked before I even watched. Confidence
Had my string slap my sleeve upon release. 623gr went through and through the liver and only the liver. 21 yards quartering too. He took one bound closer to 16 yards facing me, he stopped and flicked his tail, took one half step, another wobbly leg full step and front flipped into a lural quicker than I could fully un snap an arrow from the quiver that was still attached to the bow. It was over in 7 seconds. I was absolutely dumbfounded questioning how the arrow just hit where it did, and how the heck it killed so fast. Thank you Troy for being so adamant about having SHARP adult broadheads. Because when shit hits the fan like it did to me, it makes a difference. That single bevel tore him up.
Not sure that had anything to do with the weight of your arrow or broadhead you used tho. Every deer dies from a liver shot
Buying a cheap 3d deer target is a good way to learn arrow placement. One can shoot and then analysis their shot. I shoot a medium weight arrow and a 100 grain 2 bladed Magnus stinger. For deer, this works well. I can split the difference between weight and speed and have an arrow that gives me the best overall performance and success. I have a 30" draw so I have more lead way in my setup than most guys do. The average draw length is 28" so one needs to consider their draw length, poundage and bow's performance capabilities. Then find the right weight arrow and broadhead that gives them the best overall success for the game they pursue.
Shooting a 3D target will help, but practicing from a 🌳 into a 3D target is the Real McCoy. I have added another valuable little factor to the equation. I put the 3D target @ different angles with branches or brush strategically between me & the animal. I have shot small stuff halfway between myself & the 3D deer with arrow weights around 600 grains & ir has little affect on the impact. Of course just like Dr. Ashby says, " U must attain perfect arrow flight b4 anything else."
Great content as usual.
I am waiting impatiently for part II. :P
That’s bow hunting, these things happen that why I practice as much as possible and watch videos like this to learn as much as possible
Good stuff as always.
Always excellent!
Helpful for those of us who are still learning
This is good information for sure, my issue is that promoting this shot will result in a lot of lost animals. Not everyone has the luxury of having a team to grid search plus there are way too many people still thinking expendables are the best thing since sliced bread. More down side than up side IMO. Love your research and videos WF.
I have killed so many deer with rage and they die within 50 yrds everytime hard go change those are facts
Yes, yes and yes. Not only is it a good shot, I think it’s the Best shot angle. Practice on a 3D target look at you point of impact and determine desired point of impact at various angles to get your broadheads through the heart lung area
Though I am new to the setup(currently running 720 grains), I managed to kill a buck here in MO opening day. I had shot quartering to. The arrow was a complete passthrough save for the back 4" that had broken off while traveling through the second shoulder. The single bevel cut through both scapulas.
With all the things that can go wrong in hunting, having a setup that can crush a whitetail at literally any angle (save for the Texas heart shot, I'm still not cool with that one) is something that is invaluable.
How does a quartering to shot go through both scapulas?
@@Dodge435 Yes. I am more than happy to send pics if you need them.
@@Dodge435 When the off side leg is back, and vice versa on the on side, a quartering to includes both scapulas.
Yup. Aim forward.
I’ve center punched them most of those instances. Focus on the pumps and pipes and center of all that breaths and bleeds. Vital V. Vital V. Vital V
Great info, thank you.
Awesome video!
Always after me Lucky Charms, They're Magically delicious. Watching this video on St. Patrick's Day. The Hunting Public Boys are the real deal!
Hey Troy I just tapped the bell! My flapper and twizzler failed me two years in a row I have 150 stinger buzzcuts got 350 spine arrow shafts going to my buddy Saturday and gonna start with arrow flight and go down the line I video my hunts if I get a deer with new arrow and head setup I'll send it. Just want to say thanks to you and especially Dr Ashbey. I'm a right handed shooter that needs a left shoulder replacement and I was worried I wouldn't be an affective killer with my bow. Now I know I can kill big deer with low poundage if I hit them perfectly every time. I know I can't do that its time for plan b arrow to blow through them like shit through a goose! Yeah this year I was on the ground 19 slightly quartering away hut him square in the ribs found arrow git 9 inches tip was broke off ill send everything once I get one down. Thanks for your hard work Troy
Blam. If Broadheads fly a “little weird”
Spine up to 300. If they don’t - then whack!!
well Troy, they weigh 526 and fly like darts pin holes in the paper. I hope I get a chance to see what the stinger buzz does!! Ttyl
Nicely done. 👍👍👍
Well I learned 2 weeks ago that I suffer from buck fever when the horns are on'em. Doe I have no issue but them horns get me jacked. Shot a 5 point and an 8 point quartering away. The 5 went 600 yards with a liver shot right at dark so we backed out til the next day. Took 4 hours to find him. Shot an 8 early morning quartering away thru liver and left lung. He went 50 and fell over. My dumb tale went to take a picture 20 minutes after he fell. He jumped up and ran on adrenaline in a big circle 60 yards as the crow flies but the blood trail was none existent. Took 2 hours of walking to find him 60 yards away from the last place we had blood. Talk about a roller coaster of emotion!!! But we found them
Good stuff RF
I believe I know what you are going to talk about in the next video. Just a request; I see the elk guys taking extreme quartering to or frontal shots on elk. Id really like to know the thought process on this....just a larger target or play the cards you are dealt with. Lots of videos of frontal elk shots and lots are deadly.
So funny you did this video now. I just had this exact thing happen last week to me too. Had a nice buck come in from my left quartering too me and I aimed just behind the shoulder but he stepped when I shot and I knew the shot was back. I'm shooting my 20% foc 150 gr honed grizzly heads and it zipped right thru and the deer ran about 40 yds and stopped behind a stone wall and I lost sight of him. Backed out quietly and went home and called my brother for tracking help expecting a long tracking job. We went back 5 hours later and he had literally bedded behind the wall 40 yards away! Shot had hit .near lung and liver exiting stomach on far side. I'm convinced that because the arrow went thru him so fast he didnt know what happened and just bedded down and died. Great advice aiming more forward. Next time its through the shoulder area for me! Thanks RF!
Video 2 will confirm your organ results. If they run 250 yards - your deer who’d have been hard to find. Nice on you
Hey Ranch Fairy, Great videos. I just watched a guy trap a single hog attach a gps to it and track its movements for a week to find a sounder bedding site. Then in the middle of the day snuck up on them while they were sleeping. . don't get me wrong, I have no issue with sitting at a feeder, it is just a way to hunt them in the middle of the day. GPS Tracking Feral Hogs, and ambushing them where they sleep! | Judas Hog/Pig
Thank you RF. Your videos are like standup comedy for bow hunters, and a tutorial on how not to suck.
We try not to suck
Love the video n content. Drop your commentary on both audio channels in the edit please. Written word sections are on screen too breifly. Read it aloud as if you were standinf in front of a crowd. That's the timing. Just sharing some insight 😁
Awesome vid
Shot buck, quarter to me, shotgun slug, behind shoulder, went over 200yds before killed by brother--tough animals!
Great video , I’m surprised how much talking they get away with , while deer are right in top of them . Crazy
They do that a lot. I don’t know how much a deer has reacted to talking and been scared off because of that only.
Been waiting on troy to drop a new vid
480 grain arrow tipped with a grim reaper flapper special shot out of a 80 pound hoyt does the trick, they run till they crash but most of the time they don't make it outside of 100 yards.
I haven’t a doubt. Good stuff
Yeah BUDDY! Let's GO! Full frontal shots next 💪
The THP guys have killed a few this year i think straight on. Ted recently nailed a nice buck like that. I’d love to see the RF assessment of those shots.
Yes , then neck and brain shots after that ! Lol
@@decaturridgebees8761 Me as well mate!
@@bradbishop1893 You can shoot Elk front on... why would you think you can't shoot Whitetail Deer?
@@bradbishop1893 Especially with a good quality arrow setup, there should be no issues!
Hey Troy, I have a quick question. If I shoot a 26 inch arrow and 50 pounds. What would you recommend for insert and broadhead weigh? As well as arrow spine. Thanks.
These are common shots on deer. Reality is as we as hunters set up for quartering to shots. We set up down wind facing direction deer are expected to come from. Majority of time on mature animals of any kind we are stacking odds in their favor to get that visual and set for that window we plan in our head. If our target animal is before that window we have set for, we feel good about what is happening. As deer passes our window... he is getting away. Lol. So without thinking about it alot of us set ourselves up for quartering to. Yet many concentrate on the speed of their bow with little concern of what they are shooting from their bow.
"Send Hate Mail to Troy@...." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ranch cracks me up!
My name is Daniel, and its been 12 months since Ive shot my last twizler stick at a deer. Since I've recovered with adult arrows, I will pound the shoulder quartering to all day.
You may now enter a state of tranquility
I have a 33" draw and just picked up the new mathews atlas. Draw weight is 75lb. Am shooting a axis 260. Can you recommend a arrow that will be correct spine for my draw and weight? Am finding it super difficult to find arrows that are right for my long draw and heavy weight
Between what the animals do. How we shoot under pressure. The obstacles in the way. Why wouldn't you want to shoot a magnum and break what you hit? And what does too sharp mean? Never seen where it's too sharp!
Video 2 is gonna cause some hate hate and chatter. Gonna be awesome!
My first deer with a bow was a quartering to shot, used my black hornet ser razor and hit 1 lung and the liver. The deer was dead in 14 minutes, watched it keel over and die myself as it only went about 60 yards. Full credit to the Broadhead
Does anyone have the link to the original Hunting Public video where he takes the follow up shot?
so it seems like aim a bit forward of where you would normally decide to shoot when the animal is quartering in
Have you had a chance to try the OzCut Hurricane head? Single bevel 3 blade that looks nasty.. bought some 150gr heads to try them out before the season goes out...
I look forward to testing them on a Plan B hit.
On Plan A - probably fantastic
I have seen shots, whether accidental, or on purpose, where the arrow hit quartering to, in FRONT of the shoulder, and the deer fell within sight. In some instances, the arrow must have cut nerves/vessels that fed the front legs, and the shot turned the deer into a bulldozer, pushing his chest along the ground with his back legs basically going nowhere. Guessing a low percentage success shot because so much bone in the way. Maybe they just got lucky.
Video 2 - heads are gonna pop off my man
@@RanchFairy Bring it. People used to think the world was flat.
Give me alot more information on the broadheads and prices and anything else you can think of so I can find and get them thank you and merry Christmas
Most premium brands with great steel are $90+ for 3 Broadheads - Tuffhead elite will be up on the Tuffhead website soon.
$105 a pack
😂Hunters!
Wouldn’t it be nice to shoot enough Deer 🦌 on camera for other people to get snippy about shot placement?😅😂😊😂😂! Good stuff!! Very funny!!🏹🦌🏹🦌🏹🦌🏹🦌🏹🦌
I keep hearing double lung is the best way to shoot compared to hitting the heart... as someone who's studied biology and taken all the classes, I have to say it's great to hear you talk about actual anatomy and placement and just how important it is to get a shot near the heart if not directly on it. Common sense says you take out the pump station the animal will fall must faster! Thanks for these videos!
Thank you.
What target is recommended for broadhead practice with Single Bevels on an Adult arrow?
Can we get a tutorial video on this?
I'm curious if this is why Single Bevel broadheads receive such polarizing acceptance, or outright unwillingness to try...
I’ve not tested a bunch of broadhead videos
And on the SB argument
..”people are more willing to accept facts when they agree with what they already believe”
- Andy Rooney.
I have a question I have a bunch of 350 spine arrows cut to 27 inches, and shoot 65 pounds at 28.5 inch draw. I am considering replacing the stock inserts with 50 grain but am worried that will under spine the arrows in combination with my 125 grain points so would have 175 up front with about 14% FOC, I hunt midwest whitetail only and happened to plan B a deer this season with a 452 grain arrow with cut on contact through the center of the scapula and cut the bottom of the spine, so that deer made 50 years. Would like a little more weight but would like to use what arrows I have purchased for now.
Gonna be a banana and Broadheads are probably gonna “not shoot well” Hahahah
300 spine man
@@RanchFairy That is what I was wondering Troy. Was also considering getting some 300 spine and play with them.
Audio is in one ear bud when Troy is talking after the intro.
I know - I had some technical issues and just too much editing done - so let it roll.
Looking for help! I shoot a Mathews halon pulling 60 pounds (could crank up if needed) my arrows need to be 28 inches carbon to carbon.... I know they sell test kits but if you were going to pick would you pick the 250 spine Apollo or 300 spine Apollo with my setup? Love your videos. Thanks in advance
300 spine
Don’t crank it up
@@RanchFairy thanks for the help! I’ll be buying your arrows!
Torn between Magnus stinger 150 gr (2 blade) and Magnus stinger buzzcut 150 gr (2 blade)...any thoughts??
Buzz
Drinking the kool-aid now.
3 deer now with 2 blade broadheads and feathers, always wait for a mostly broadside shot but recently had a slight quartering toward shot. All 3 around 15m or so, all 3 passthroughs. Not great blood trails, but deer didn't ever run more than 20m.
Awesome and congrats! What head are you shooting?
Question for the fairy. What arrow spine would you recommend for a 70 pound Mathews vxr shooting a Sirius Apollo with a 100 grain insert and a 315 grain tuffhead?
200 -
@@RanchFairy Thank you sir
Troy do you remember a book from a fellow texan named the bowhunting alternative circa 1985 I think his name is Adrian behnke and he did a lot of study on succinclycholinechloride and broadheads
I was the Legislative Chairman for the LSBA when Behnke published his book. He was trying to convince the TPWD to legalize use of the POD with succinylcholine for archery hunting. I spoke with Behnke and reviewed literature he cited. His POD was behind the broadhead. His claims attributing kills to use of the POD/SUX were wrong. The kills were d/t proper broadhead placement adversely affecting physiology. He argued the POD filled with crystalline SUX behind a BH could be dissolved, absorbed, and circulated to the appropriate target organ resulting in death...faster than the known circulatory time of the deer! Obviously impossible and when I pointed it out to him, he said his opinion was there was another previously unknown and un described organ system in the WT deer that SUX worked through. BS! The known circulatory time of the WT deer is 27 seconds. The blood pressure in mammalian species consistently drops and immobilizes the animal when 1/3 of the blood volume is lost...9 seconds... and irreversible cardiogenic shock sets in at 40% loss of blood volume. As an emergency physician who uses SUX, I knew intravenously given SUX has an onset of action of roughly 50 -60 seconds. I knew Behnke was wrong and potentially putting hunters lives at risk. I enlisted Dr. Dave Samuel (PhD wildlife biologist)and Dr. Edward Otten (MD Toxicologist) to provide support letters to my letter to TPWD objections to the use of the POD/SUX in bowhunting. TPWD accepted my letter on behalf of the LSBA.
Thanks for the reply doc
Mr.Klena...You are totally welcome! I commented on the subject in Part 2 as well. It’s a great topic. The funny thing is in the ‘old days’ most folks shot “adult arrows” by default because the common arrows were 2117, 2016 et al reasonably heavy arrows and most folks shot BHs anywhere from 125-145gr. Feathers were common than vanes so FOC was a bit more ‘natural’. Now it seems one has to take a course in how to build an arrow!
anyone else not getting any audio aside from the hunting clips?
I passed on this shot just the other day, still questioning my decision but have had things go bad doing it and go right.
Just dont aim to low and not to far back .. let'er rip
@@MikeyWoomer I hunt small acreage, I have to be sure the deer drops fast.
I've passed on many shots due to how they were acting which can cause ducking the arrow issues or just not in the best of positions.
It sucks but it is what I have to do.
@@JamesSmullins And that is exactly the right decision. Its not like we are starving to death and need the meat... let the deer live another day and get another opportunity at it with a much better angle.