LOOΠΔ Dance Ranking (ranked by a dancer) [OUTDATED]
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Hi everyone, the video has now only been up for less than 30 minutes and I'm worried that this is going to be the BTS ranking all over again. Please remember to be respectful to me, the LOONA members, each other and yourself in the comments. This is a subjective list and like I said in the disclaimers, is not set in stone. Everyone has their own ranking and that's 100% okay. We all have different experiences, expectations, backgrounds and opinions and that cannot change. One thing we can change and have control over is how we talk to each other.
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This is the first time in my dance ranking series that I have covered a group I don't stan. I've been a casual listener of LOOΠΔ ever since the JinSoul-KimLip-Choerry/Odd Eye Circle era and have been following them from "Hi High", to "Butterfly", to "So What" and at the time of this video "Why Not?". But their [#] and [12:00] albums as well as the variety shows I have watched that they have appeared on over the years have really made me what to dig deeper and become more familiar with the amazingness that is "The Loonaverse"💙 .
As a casual listener, my faves/biases (as of this video) are as follows:
Fave title track: "So What"
Bias: Go Won
Fave Sub Unit: Odd Eye Circle
Fave Solo: Vivi's/HaSeul's/Chuu's/Yeojin's
[[MUSIC I USED IN THE VIDEO]]
Intro/Disclaimers/Outro: "So What" - LOOΠΔ(이달의 소녀)
Transitions: "Hi High" - LOOΠΔ (이달의 소녀)
HaSeul's fancam: "Butterfly" - LOOΠΔ (이달의 소녀)
All 2020 fancams: "Why Not?" - LOOΠΔ (이달의 소녀)
Thumbnail from: "So What?" - LOOΠΔ (이달의 소녀)
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3:14 it’s "so what” not "so bad" typo I’m guessing 😂
oh my lord the amount of times when editing this video I typed "So Why" and "What Not" 🙃
It's should be "Jinsoul".
@@jeonghannie5730 Jinsol is also right because in Hangul, Jinsoul and Jinsol are both 진솔. Also, Jinsouls real name is Jinsol soo
@@leechan5736 finally someone said it om-
@@whiteravenkpopfan YOU MADE ME LAUGH WITH THAT ONE LMFAOOOOO
They fall under the same category along with Seventeen and Gfriend.. There's NOT EVEN ONE bad dancer in these groups!! They all can keep up with the hard choreos these groups have!
Even tho we consider Jinsoul, Chuu, Vivi and Haseul as the weak dancer, atleast they still have charisma on stage and they can catch up with the Skilled and Best Dancers of the group
@@felinekinglino5893 ikr, especially Jinsoul, she can "fake" being a lead dancer just with her stage presence!
Jinsoul fit sexy concept just like their unit odd eye circle i thought she was one of the main dancers of loona
Victor Alves Marques rightt when i was first an orbit i thought she was like extremely good at dancing and at least a main or lead until i got some insight with these videos :O she has awesome presence!
Jinsoul is SCARILY good at "faking" being a great dancer. During OEC performances she really presents herself very well.
Hyunjin just underperforms. She likes cuter concepts more too. But when she's on, she's great. Just look at her performances in mixnine. She was even ranked first beating Ryujin in one episode lol.
Aeong is so underrated.😢 She's a great dancer
Ya true she does underperform. Wondering if she lacks motivation because she indeed is a great dancer. And also if she improves her facial expressions then she would seriously be the bomb.
Yes! I'll never forget that episode where she beat Ryujin! Sometimes I think Hyunjin is such a mood. Maybe she will just do it if she's in the mood. 🤣🥺🤧❤️
@@user-kf3kx3dl8s But she always has a blank face, it's her signature look. 😆
Right whenever she places 6/7th (her usual places) i always think of how she got best dancer, beating all those great dancers
choerry also participated in choreographing Butterfly !
I thought she took part in so what
Choerry participated in choreographing:
Uncover (with Kim Lip and Jinsoul)
Rosy (with Hyunjin)
Hi High (helped arrange some moves)
Butterfly (the domino part)
So What (with Yves, Heejin, Olhye)
Why Not (w/ other members, still not sure which parts)
Basically Choerry best girl!
@@erinest6322 thank you, i didn't know she did this much, im so proud of her !!!
@@erinest6322 she also choreographed their sunmi full moon cover!
@@lillycamp8892 Woahh, I didn't know that! Do you know where they said it?
Some notes I have as watching this :O
Im surprised Yeojin was so low, she’s usually towards the middle and sometimes included with the “lead dancers” of the group.
Hyunjin definitely underdances but when she doesn’t boy is she good (look at her in their why not mafia video where near the end she tries extra hard to proven her innocence)
Also Olivia only had one day of training and recently opened up about how she regrets it because she doesn’t feel like she was good enough to debut :( It’s insane how talented she is but still feels like it isn’t enough.
Yeah I’m so confused about YeoJin 😅 I almost wanna say it’s cuz she’s put in the sides cuz of her height, but sometimes I wanna say she has as much power as the top 2 (favOriTe dance break)
Olivia trained at a dance studio prior though. She was only a trainee at BBC for one day.
yeah i agree with yeojin and also where did you find about olivia talking about being a one day trainee at bbc?
@@luvkimlip She said it at a radio show once. Yves and Gowon were short too, around 3 weeks. All of them came from dance studios though so they did have more training technically
@@gabrieln9145 yeah i think its the height thing ): i don't think she gets to shine as much bc of this
Personally, I love Olivia’s tendency to add a little spice to her choreo, it’s what made her catch my eye and become my bias hehe
this yes same
same
ME TOO
Sameee
It shows her ability and makes her captivating definitely, but the point being made is that it comes off as very individualistic and not very considerate when regarding Loona as a whole unit. While it is impressive, its also unnecessary.
I can't believe jinsoul tricked me with her charisma, i thought she was a lead dancer😮
Fr, her stage presence is so good and her confidence is so high that it convinces you that she’s a better dancer than she actually is (granted, she is still a great dancer)
I always knew she's an average dancer since OEC
Well as a new fan, she tricked me thinking that she's the main dancer! 🤧❤️
literally same
I'll just say:
1. Yves
Heejin is a close second
@@finnjake6663 True!
Mine:
1. Yves
@@finnjake6663 Kim Lip is a better dancer than Heejin. But Yves is without a doubt the best dancer in Loona.
@@vixxexo6855 jungeun is my bias but i think Heejin and hyejoo are better dancer than her. But hey, i respect your opinion
I don’t know anything about dancing but what I do know is Olivia Hye is an exceptionally gifted dancer. I’m not familiar with dance techniques or terms but speaking for myself and a few of my friends who have seen her dance, she just has that X factor that makes people want to look at her. Not sure if it’s a dance/stage presence or facials or whatever it is. She is just simply made for the stage. Her charisma is off the charts. And i kinda like her adding the head isolation during her part in the Center, it makes her look more sassy.
Totally agree. 💯
I think the person who made this just wanted a simple example because I don't think it's a problem adding to the choreo when you're the center. I'd say it's expected.
Agree
She has insane flexibility and facials. Her moves are really powerful. She reminds me of Itzy Ryujin. She always slays the hard parts she gets in the choreo.
Yasss, I'm not much of an Orbit but I've always wanted to see your opinion on their dancing considering how good they are
Woah I’m honestly shocked at YeoJin’s low ranking. I think her height probably doesn’t help her with isolations but she honestly can have a lot of power at times, a great example is the favOriTe dance break which she shines at a lot and never undercuts, though I do agree that she can be messy at times which I think might be due to lack of confidence. My personal dance ranking for the group is
1. Yves
2. HeeJin
3. Olivia Hye
4. Kim Lip
5. Choerry
6. HyunJin
7. Go Won
8. YeoJin
9. Chuu (has improved a lot)
10. JinSoul (has become less consistent imo)
11. ViVi
12. HaSeul 💚
I can't agree more I was so shocked :( Yeojin is always the one on variety shows who randomly knows a bunch of kpop dances, which shows she's quite passionate about it. I think all she's lacks is confidence on stage, and most definitely didn't deserve the last spot! She's almost never in the front of formations, which is probably due to her height so I don't think she gets to shine as much ): As for your list, the only thing I would switch is Go Won and Hyunjin! also I would make a strong argument that the 2-5 girls are a solid four-way tie 😭
@@bunsyami i dont think she lacks confidence, check her why not fancams, she smiles and she has the charisma on stage.
Although I think Why not doesnt fit her well, I think choreographies like So What really fitted her.
@@felinekinglino5893 honestly, I don't either (at least currently). I guess I was just struggling to find any justification for putting her so low on the ranking... I agree though i think Why Not is the first era where her charisma + talent has been able to shine. Also just remembering how BBC used to make her wear platforms and high heels to try to match her height with the other members (thank god they stopped)... That can really inhibit body control and stability which might be what made them rank her so low ):
@@bunsyami yes, but im just curious that the ranker made her very low than haseul, vivi and jinsoul, well Chuu's dancing has been improving alot tho. But I dont think Vivi, Jinsoul and Haseul are better than her.
@@felinekinglino5893 no i definitely agree
their positions based on this ranking
Yeojin, Haseul, Vivi, Chuu, Jinsoul - Sub
Hyunjin, Go Won, Choerry - Lead
Olivia Hye, Kim Lip, Heejin, Yves - Main
the fact that the "weakest" can keep up with the hard choreographies proved they're all great
i definitely agree that heejin has the best stage presence in loona! that girl is AMAZING.
I actually enjoy her performance style more than Yves, personally she's my favorite dancer together with hyejoo in loona. Yves is a beautiful dancer but sometimes she lacks something that makes her stand out, my eyes tend to wander more toward Olivia and heejin
@@MaryK02 yes, for me Heejin is the best dancer too
Olivia was a 1 Day trainee, so that is why she has been relying on her natural talents, (as she had no other option)she has been developing her techniques as a dancer and performer with each come back, I think soon she will be a well established main dancer in the group just like Yves, great video I like this types of analysis.
Truly, but Olivia Hye is already a trained dancer in an academy, so I think that helped her debut. Still very impressive tho
when ppl say shes a one day trainee it doesnt mean she only trained for one day lol it means she was transferred to bbc and was under bbc as a trainee for only one day before she got picked to debut
Jia, I do know that, as Magical universe mentioned she trained dancing in an academy before, just like other members in the group did, even then the training time probably differs from member to member, such a young member like Olivia probably did not even train dancing that long to begin with, BUT my main point is that idol training is a lot different from just dance training, like stage presence and breath control are other factors you need to deal with, she did not have to much time to develop those and we are only talking about dancing. Anyways I replied to your comment cuz I think, you think I ignore her previous training, but I do not, so here I am explaining further what I meant.
@@andreacanales5789 i still think ur missing my point. she trained under different companies that have idol trainees too/taught idol dancing before she was transferred. its a common thing for companies to transfer trainees and such. she didnt only train in idol dancing for a day 😭
@@jeeyuhh
"Olivia probably did not even train dancing that long to begin with..."
Actually Olivia started dance training at a dance academy when she was quite young. I forget the exact age but I remember that it was in the single digits (i.e. before she was 10 years old). She also trained at FNC Academy, which teaches idol related skills, prior to auditioning at BBC.
I think gowon, hyunjin, and choerry are lead dancer material. And i personally like gowon's dance style a lot :
me toooo
loona powerhouse dancers, just saying
I think Yeojin is a good dancer but she gets really excited and overdances and does the choreography too fast in random dance for exemple. I dont think she does in performances tho
Ever since I first saw the live performance, I noticed Olivia’s neck isolations, which for me are very noticeable as she is center. Great video! I agree with the ranking!
i think the extra neck isolations that olivia does in that part make it look even better, theres nothing wrong with her addjng her own style to the dance
Also she's center at that part.
She also added a leg movement in the bridge of So What. I think it's cool she has her own flair and style
I wonder how you feel about Hyunjin in mixnine cause in there, many called her a main dancer and other girls would go to her for help for dances but I don’t really see anyone discussing her when talking about her dance material. For me, she makes the dances look easier than they are rather than powerful which I don’t feel is a skill a lot of people have
I didn't watch mixnine, but yeah she's so skilled, I personally see it and totally agree with you, her movements are very clear, precise and accurate, no rushy, messy or unfinished moves.
i genuinely think its just a concept mismatch. she shone SO hard during hi high and got no credit for it and ever since theyve done more mature or badass concepts, meaning hyunjins charisma and facials dont get as much spotlight as she deserves. when shes during a bright or cute concept she is one of the most fun members to watch : ' ) she seems to have a good technical grasp + has helped choreo for loona before, whichd explain why people wanted her help in mixnine!
And please don't forget that she beat Ryujin in one of the episode.
in butterfly especially her dancing was out of this world, but i think she should stay as an unofficial lead dancer until her stage presence improves? idk
Hyunjin has great coordination, so her dances never looks messy, anyway, her under dancing, lacks of interpretation, and overrall texture keeps her lower than the others
i'm pretty much in complete agreement, save for olivia's ranking.
i agree w/ your take on her overall weaknesses of consistency when it comes to under/overdancing - seems to me to be an energy and overall engagement thing, you can tell when olivia's enjoying herself and when she's not very easily, because her dancing will adjust accordingly. that tendency did improve somewhat this comeback, and i expect to see further improvements as she gains practical experience and gets more used to a consistent idol schedule.
however, i disagree on the adding of choreo details being a weakness. i do see your point, and it would be an issue if she were doing it frequently, but she only really adds those extras in specific moments when she is in the centre - which to me is just a hallmark and benefit of a centre position. taking advantage of that to add in extra techniques seems to me evidence of developing musicality, and considering she's consistent, it becomes a formal part of the choreo in its own right. for that reason, i see that quirk as an overall strength so long as it's done appropriately, and for that i'd move her up to third.
given how young and overall inexperienced olivia still is, i also completely expect to see her climb up to second in my personal ranking within another year or so. if she gets her dynamics under control, improves her stamina, and continues to grow in her versatility esp in non-idol techniques like tumbling, it'll be hard for me not to see her as the mid-point between heejin's exceptional idol dancing and yves' exceptional overall technique.
Things I've noticed:
Triplet line #6-#4
(Hyunjin, Choerry, OHye)
First member of each subunit #3-#1
(Kim Lip, Heejin, Yves)
Butterfly Main Dancer dance break #5-#1
(Choerry, OHye, Kim Lip, Heejin, Yves)
for the last one Wow It's Almost Like They Put Their Five Best Dancers In That Part.
That's why the dance line (Choerry, Heejin, Kim Lip, Yves & Olivia Hye) cover the full moon by sunmi. They also acknowledge that they are the Dance Line.
Orbits: Yeojin is so good at dancing, if they had set positions she'd definitely be a lead dancer!
whitreravenkpopfan: lol anyways...
That goes to show how great LOONA is as dancers 😌
i think it has something to do with her stage presence. Both Yeojin and Jinsoul have a tendency to trick you into thinking they’re lead dancers with their facials and just overall energy, especially when it is their part
@@alyssaburns1300 yea fr I thought Jinsoul was a lead dancer when I watched them for the first time
@@user-yr1jf5hm3r same-
@@user-yr1jf5hm3r sameee eomg
This is what I expected
1. Yves
2. HeeJin
3. Kim Lip/Olivia Hye
4. Olivia Hye/Kim Lip
5. Choerry
6. HyunJin
7. Go Won
8. YeoJin
9. JinSoul
10. Chuu
11. ViVi
12. HaSeul
I am very surprised YeoJin is so low but now it makes sense to me. She is still a great dancer tho
What the positions would be like if they had ones in my opinion:
Main Dancers: Yves, HeeJin, Kim Lip
Lead Dancers: Olivia Hye, Choerry, HyunJin, Go Won
Dancers: JinSoul, Chuu, ViVi, HaSeul, YeoJin
I like that each unit gets atleast one Main Dancer, Lead Dancer and Dancer. It's really balanced
Olivia over Lip, Gowon over Hyunjin, Chuu over Yeojin, Jinsoul, and Hyunjin.
1. Yves/Heejin
2. Olivia Hye
3. Kim Lip
4. Choerry/Gowon
5. Chuu
7. Hyunjin
8. Yeojin
9. Jinsoul
10. Vivi
12. Hasuel
I don't get this "no positions" thing.
Everybody sees Yves and Heejin as the main dancers, Chuu and Haseul as main Vocalists, Jinsoul as main Rapper, Yves and Heejin and Kim Lip and Jinsoul as lead Vocalists...
Yes everybody sees it but for exemple who is the main rapper ? Jinsoul, Heejin, Olivia Hye, Gowon ?
Kim Lip can be a main vocalist too
It's very complicated to fix their positions cause they all are very versatile and talented 👍
@@euphoriacover2653 do you meant choerry as a main rapper?
@@matiasdesalas7301 yes Choerry is a main rapper material too
Imo from the way bbc treats them
Main vocals : chuu & haseul
Lead vocals : yves, Kim lip, heejin & jinsoul
Sub vocalist : everybody else
Main rappers : heejin, jinsoul & Olivia
Lead rappers : choerry, yeojin & gowon
Sub rappers: everybody else
Main dancer : yves, Kim lip & heejin
Lead dancers : Olivia, hyunjin, gowon & choerry
What about you guys?
@@nabi7052 Three mains is a lot in my opinion so i will put kim as a lead dancer olivia as a lead rapper and heejin as a sub vocal because eventhough she deserves that lead vocal position having 2 mains and a lead position+ the visual y center is a little to much and the rest same
Choerry, Go Won and Hyunjin are the "underappreciated" line. They can sing, rap, dance and they're visuals too, and yet BBC sleeps on them.
Choerry is such an ace, she can sing like an angel, she is one of the best rapper in Loona and her dancing is lead dancer worthy. She also choreograph dances and her stage presence is great. Plus she’s gorgeous. Why don’t they appreciate her as the complete idol she is?
And Gowon is so talented yet underrated, her upside down smile never fails to melt my heart and her visuals are like a doll. She’s so elegant and cute at the same time. Her dancing is clean and precise she is such a good dancer.
I love the explanations behind the rankings! The distinction between "performer" and "dancer" feels really accurate. I would love to see the re-edited ranking video once Haseul is back :)
Yves is for sure an underrated "main dancer" in the general kpop community. I feel like if she had a battle with some of the other popular main dancers, she probably wouldn't lose first. If she was given the title of main dancer, she would definitely receive more recognition. But she also just needs an opportunity to show more of her dance to the world as well, besides the Loona choreos.
Personally I would move Olivia Hye above Kim Lip. I haven't really noticed her addition of details and when she does, she's center, so it could be seen as a special center detail. Olivia Hye's natural talent and power is special and if she continues to practice, she could totally solidify #3 and perhaps even be #2. But Heejin is a very consistent and amazing idol dancer with definitely the best stage presence so... idk I feel like it's really hard to rank them.
Hyunjin is a good dancer but her weak stage presence and blank facials really covers her skills. She has weaker stage presence than most of the lower ranked members. If she had stronger stage presence and facials... her power !!
oh my god THANK YOU! ive been saying kim lip is in the top3 in dancing but everyone always puts her below ohye and sometimes even choerry.... i even saw someone out her below gowon and hyunjin. im glad she's getting recognized for the amazing dancer she is
but i really do think that aeong improved with her facials expressions in this era, I’m so proudddd
what’s great about loona’s dance line is their involvement with choreography. i think choerry, yves & heejin were all credited on so what & choerry being credited as far back as rosy - which she done pre debut
i bet ranking groups with half of their members in the dance line is hard
anyways my bby vivi improved so much ❤️❤️
i loved this!! loona are my ult group so it was so great to see you say such positive things about their performance :')
Thank you!!!!!!! 💙💙💙💙💙
Also, Yves is the type of person who memorizes choreography after seeing it! Insert clip of her learning (I think "Bad Idea" from Moonbin).
Yves can be argued to be the second best female dancer in KPOP 4th generation so...people should know her power
who would you rank as #1? I'm a bit new to kpop and don't know as many groups, so I can't really think of other really strong dancers other than Seulgi and Irene from Red Velvet.
@@GotInterest oh there was a typo. That's for 4th gen. The original trio hands down are the best (Hyoyeon, Minzy and BoA)
@@GotInterest i think the #1 is chaeyeon from izone, watch her dance break in secret story of the swan or thecover dance of 16 shots in artist of the month. I think yves could get to her level if bbc promote Yves a bit more. maybe have her do a dance cover video or get center in a dance break etc
Chaeyeon is definitely the best, and I think that Mia from Everglow and Yves are really fighting for the 2nd place.
@@stanbtsforaclearskin i love both groups but yves really is second, she hasn't even shown her full potential yet
since y’all are leaving your rankings, here’s mine and how they changed from the video’s (i think-)
1). yves (-)
2). heejin (-)
3). olivia hye (+1)
4). kim lip (-1)
5). choerry (-)
6). gowon (+1)
7). hyunjin (-1)
8). yeojin (+5)
9). chuu (-)
10). jinsoul (-2)
11). vivi (-1)
12). haseul (-1)
I agree with this one the most I think!! though gowon/hyunjin is so difficult to choose haha
@@wxnxyz ikr !! i put gowon in front of hyunjin but like they’re seriously on par no joke
@@animeaddict1017 when hyunjin tries harder (like in their mafia dance) I think she ranks higher than gowon
@@wakeupandsmelltherain6351 yes it will look like it because of hyunjin trying to put more power. But gowon in the other hand is still cleaner and better angles. Hyunjin i think is sharper, but i think they go on par for dynamics
hyejoo is great but kim lip has much better technique, her dance style is more clean and she also has incredible stage presence, objectivity speaking it wouldn’t make sense for her not be on top 3, unless you’re basing your list simply on personal preference
Interestingly enough I find the “bored” faces of Yeojin, Haseul, ViVi and Hyunjin as strengths, but in the right concepts. That’s why I loved Butterfly so much because it showcased those ‘bored’ faces as a part of their whole stage presence and not as lack of energy. I love that etherial mysteriousness that they conveyed perfectly through their expressions. This goes for all 12 of them. It gives them an added dimension and even makes them stand out.
I’m hoping for an f(x) - 4Walls type of concept for them soon, because I know they’ll pull that off perfectly!
Imo:
1. Yves
2. Heejin
3. Olivia Hye
4. Kim Lip
5. Choerry
6. Hyunjin
7. Go Won
8. Jinsoul
9. Yeojin
10. Chuu
11. Vivi
12. Haseul
Me too
agreed
Are sure? Jinsoul dance better than gowon and hyunjin
@@baexiao4274 I'd say Jinsoul is better performer than Go Won and Hyunjin, But technically she isn't better. She tends to underdance and her moves aren't... Sharp? Idk how to say it. I feel like she is losing consistency.
i agree, but Olivia Hye 🔄 Kim Lip
Like your videos about dance ranking especially for the fact that you can tell us about weaknesses even of better and greater dancers. That is the objectivism and fairness! And of course I like to learn more details about dancers and kpop dances in general. Thank you!
this is by far the best loona dance ranking i’ve ever seen 🙌
kim lip is personally my second favorite dancer on loona only after yves but i can see why heejin could get the second place as well
I'm agree with your ranking, I think mine it's the same, but I want to say something about Hyunjin bc I think her steps are very clean and pleasurable too watch, not many people see that TT Thank you for the top❤️ STAN LOONA
For Olivia I think the extras work especially because she’s in the front at the part you mentioned.
I think like one of the reasons why Yeojin is low in the ranking is the choreography of Why not because in so what and favorite there are a lot hip and torso movements versus in why not there are a lot of isolations. Yeojin is really good when it comes to hip and torso movements
I'm actually kinda shocked Yeojin got the lowest in here
Personal ranking:
1. Yves
2/3. Heejin/ Olivia hye
4. Kim lip
5. Hyunjin/ Choerry
6. Gowon( she is fourth or fifth in So what era though)
7. Chuu
8. Jinsoul
9. Yeojin( she is actually higher that Chuu and Jinsoul in So what)
10. Vivi/ Haseul
I tottaly agree, Olivia Hye should be second.
I know Yves and Heejin are the better dancers in LOONA, but my eyes goes straight to Olivia and Hyunjin when I watch them perform!
As expected of God Kim Lip. All rounder!
Thank you for making this!! I really appreciate the time and effort you put in. Hopefully people can be respectful to you and that you won't be too affected by any negative comments
Thank you for the kind words! Thank you 💙💙💙
omg 4 main dancers
8:17 okay but that looked really cool. I think it would look amazing if other members also did that and put it in the choreo
All of the members of Loona are great at dancing I think :D
I think everyone except for Jinsoul, Vivi, and Hasuel would be a lead/main dancer in most groups.
Gowon's stamina is mad. Love4ever's choreo is very demanding and sis never looked out of breath. A queen
This is gonna be interesting. I don't know Loona but i love their butterfly song. Today I watched a dance ranking of them by another dancer. Heejin and Olivia caught my eyes the most :)
im pretty happy with choerry taking #5, even tho i would rate her higher myself if the list was based on favorites instead of technique etc, her being 5th is quite the compliment considering the members right above her. but #1 was no shock at all, every time she dances n gets to show off i feel strangely proud n i rly hope she’ll get acknowledged as one of the best dancers in the industry in the future
8:25 THIS... this is one of the main things channels like yours (not you, just ranking channels) tend to overlook during these rankings! while her isolations that you referenced here do prove that she's a fully capable dancer, she's not dancing with the group which is a very important aspect of performances (especially in kpop).
the thing about olivias neck isolation is even though noone else does it it makes her part stand out even more. which i personally think is a good thing💓
No doubt Yves gonna be one of the best idol dancer for the next few years...her potential is just so good.
this video was so interesting, I loved how well written every description and reasoning was!
i think hyunjin’s bored expressions are her attempting to fit the concept. i agree that it could be done better. i’ve seen a few fancams of her during hi high and i think her stage presence shined more in that era, she looked really bubbly and energetic to fit that concept!
Totally understand your reasoning/comments, but Olivia’s overdancing or additions to the choreo (like the head isolation movements) are exactly why she’s my favorite to watch personally, I like when idols have a little bit of personal flair. But! I’m not gonna argue or disagree with the ranking at all 😊
i know hyunjin underdances but i really like her dance style - she makes any dance she does look so easy, even when they're difficult and i think that's a talent in itself. i also really like yeojin, gowon and hyejoo's styles and would've maybe ranked them higher on my personal list. but this is a really interesting video, thank you! i like seeing what strengths and weaknesses they have in dancing because i'm not a professional dancer so i miss some things
Me the whole video:
Their stylist is so ugh...
Haha. I was also thinking on how good u are at putting words lol. I'm thinking how I'll do my modules ahh....
Heejin's my bias and I'm just glad she earned a high rank from u whiteravenkpopfan lol. Wuts ur inspiration for that name thou hahaha.
Haha, I discussed my username in my Q&A video but the "White Raven" was inspired from an episode of "Teen Titans" and "kpopfan" ... well, I like Kpop haha 😅 I made this account in 2014, so I was in my mid teens. I am now in my early 20s and yeah the name's a little silly but it's too nostalgic to change now 💙
Thank you so much for doing this! LOONA are all great dancers as they have some very complex choreography, so I was looking forward for someone to do this.
I though choerry would be a bit higher since she's done some really good choreography, like she helped choreograph the dance for butterfly
she choreographed some parts in uncover (with kim lip and jinsoul), butterfly, so what, why not, rosy (with hyunjin) and the full moon cover they did too!!
im so glad yves got recognition in this video shes one of my dance inspirations!! shes damn awesome
I love your video and I love you too!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!
I think hyunjin is underdancing, but when she doesn't(like favOriTe dancebreak and mafia dance), she's kinda above lead dancer material. Also hyunjin never opens her mouth when performing except whe she's singing(LIKE HOW CAN SHE???), so if she opens her mouth, she'll have a better facial (like her 4 walls fancam) I think?
I'll go a step further and say Yves is among top 5 kpop dancers overall.
For the 4th gen yes, but not yet in all kpop since she would have to be among girls like Hyoyeon, Chungha, Momo, Minzy, Seungyeon...
@@lasciemie6346 as a dancer I can say that she is already a better dancer than Seulgi . In time she will be even better.
@@catmayor3522 I tbh don't agree with Chung Ha. But thats your opinion and I respect that.
Cat Mayor nah not really ur kinda biased
Ur opnion tho!
That's a little too much i mean Lisa,Momo,Seulgi,Minzy and Chungha exist
Vivi’s dance skills are so underappeciated. especially this comeback, imo this comeback she did better than most. Others i kinda agree. Hyunjin prefers more cute styles, Yves and Olivia really cringe at cute concepts so it’s small wonder when one performer does better with the style.
I feel like Yeojin did better during So What era (being probably 8th 9th best dancer in the group) than with Why Not's choreography
I feel like the grouping of the members is pretty consistent throughout ranking videos, vivi/haseul/yeojin, then chuu/jinsoul, then gowon/choerry/hyunjin then olivia/heejin/kimlip w yves first! Thanks for the awesome video!
Thank you!!! 💙💙💙💙
When the top 3 are also part of the vocal line
Solid review, Kim Lip needs to work on power, she does not go low enough on some movements, She needs some squat and lunge, plyometrics, training to strengthen her legs and hips.
Please do seventeen next! It amazes me how synchronized they are. And there is not one (at least from my non-dancer pov) below average dancer in seventeen, despite there being 13 members.
Can you do seventeen :D
They are very good dancers so I really want to see them one day in one of these videos ^^
I always thought ViVi had great facial expression but I agree with her ranking. Like in Gimme Gimme ViVi from Loona some how looks elegant even in this song despite being so ridiculous, cute, and ridiculously cute. And when she’s not being shoved and shuffled into the background she definitely has much better expressions. Take voice for example, but in most choreo I find her expression nice but without much variation so maybe a bit boring to watch. But I never thought she looked bored. The fact I’m a ViVi bias could also be making me see her through rose colored glasses.
I’m not a dancer (well I tap danced recreationally for like 8 years but I was never that good, my friends have said I’m a good dancer and was elected for dance like Beyoncé for my high school’s senior superlatives but that really has nothing to do with technical skill) so I can’t really comment on the weaknesses and strengths you pointed out. On that not though I can understand that Yves is the best dancer, it’s like common knowledge. Yet, I’ve never been a fan of her dancing? Something about her style and her figure always seems to make her look lanky despite being the same height as everyone else, and it feels a bit awkward? In addition I’ve never really been impressed with Yves facial expressions. Loona’s cover of full moon is pretty much their dance line all together. It has my favorite performance from Yves. Yet I still thought Olivia was more fun to watch. She had a lot of lines and center there so that my be influencing my thoughts. So did Heejin. Heejin is obviously great in all aspects. Perfect all rounder. My favorite performance from her is greedy on mix nine. She was stunning in ways I’ve never felt about Yves. Heejin is great, but honestly BBC is a bit over kill in giving her half of the lines.
I wouldn’t rank Kim Lip so high on the list. This Why Not comeback I think Cheorry was the best. I felt she really suited this energetic teen crush concept. Generally Cheorry has more versatility (debuting with something like Love Cherry Motion you would have to be flexible) than Kimlip and since Loona likes to do drastically different concepts I feel like Cheorry is a better dancer in Loona even if she’s not a better dancer if that makes sense. Even for the sexy concepts Kim Lip is known for I don’t think Cheorry is much worse. Going back to the full moon cover I feel like the fruit bat really held her own. Young as she is she’s never sexy sexy, but she has a sly cuteness kinda like Olivia but less fierce and more casual that meshes with the sexy concept. Then again I think Kim Lip shone brighter than Cheorry in Voice.
I’ve always found it a shame that hyunjin doesn’t have much presence on the stage. She’s definitely a great dancer but she looks kinda bland all the time. I always love watching Yeojin dance. I agree she’s not the best but in reality shows she knows the choreography for like all the songs and she really goes ham.
Most of my opinions really don’t have much to do with technical skill but dance is an art and no one is horrible at dancing, so I think feeling is important to dance. Maybe even the most important aspect.
even though yeojin needs technique work (shes improving fast so I assume she'll blow us away with technique improvement next comeback) she seems to really love dancing seeing as every variety show with a random dance section she knows all her seniors dances which I think makes me have a bias for yeojins dancing because she just seems like shes having fun it's so cute
1. Yves
2. Olivia Hye (shes 1 in my head tho)
3. Heejin
4. Choerry/ Kim Lip
5. Kim Lip/ Choerry
6. Hyunjin
7. Gowon
8. Vivi
9. Yeojin
10. Jinsoul
11. Chuu
12.Haseul
I think olivia’s tendency of adding choreo to the choreo is what makes her stand out and a key to being a main dancer, literally main dancers all around do that, and she never really under dances tbh she either slightly overdances or keeps up with the choreo like a natural main dancer. her facial expressions are a 10 she so versatile and never looks bored plus she has her own uniqueness, style and can free style dance almost if not as good as yves. Also her tendency to understand and grasp choreography at a quicker rate then the other girls also is a plus. and as you can tell she is part 1/2 of my bias (the other being jinsoul and right behind them is choerry hehe 😩💯) so i will go to bat for thems
Totally agree for Olivia Hye part. 💯
Agree with everything you said about Olivia! She really does dance like a main dancer. Main Dancer is usually known to stand out amongst the group, take the choreography and add their own twist to it and being versatile which Olivia excels at. Idk how some people don’t see her as a main dancer material. She’s got it all.
However on your list there are few things I disagree with; Gowon should be higher than Hyunjin, Yeojin and Chuu should def be higher than Jinsoul and Vivi.
@@chaeyoungslovie no you’re are absolutely so right and after nearly a year since this been published i still stand with everything i said about my top 5 but new rankings are:
6. gowon
7. hyunjin
8. yeojin (although in some cases id put her over hyunjin because shes grown so much as a dancer)
9. chuu
10. vivi
11. jinsoul
12. haseul
I love Choerry and Hyunjin dancing but I totally agree your opinion 👍 I'm happy that you said Hyunjin is a good dancer🥺 And i know to be an idol also need to be a good performer.
I agree on almost everything,but i would place Olivia above Kim Lip and Yeojin above Haseul💕
wow loona is such a well-rounded group dance-wise!! reminds me of groups like nct, skz, gfriend, dreamcatcher, and stray kids who also seem to have an outstanding number of above average dancers!!
thank you for doing this ranking
a lot of loona (literally majority) do not even have a year’s worth of training before debuting so if things like isolations seem awkward we can only depend on comebacks for them to train their skills haha 😔
my opinion but i do mostly agree with yours:
1. yves
2. olivia hye
3. heejin
4. kim lip
5. choerry
6. hyunjin
7. gowon
8. jinsoul
9. chuu
10. yeojin
11. vivi
12. haseul
Someone here really does know the true dance ranking :)
@@electricchair1909??
why is olivia hye above heejin 😭😭 but it's fine,, its ur opinion and i do be agreeing w the rest
I personally think olivia hye is main dancer material along with yves and heejin
Yes i totally agree, Olivia hye should be second.
Yves is just so consistent, she's stable even when she sings. I hope she gets recognized more of being a vocalist too!
hi, i always find your videos super interesting to watch as i‘m not a dancer myself! i love how respectful you are to the members, and i‘ve even watched some of your rankings of groups that i don‘t even stan because i like to see your opinion :)) i was wondering if you‘d consider doing a dance ranking with soloists maybe? that would be really cool, i hope i‘m not being rude 😅
as someone with no experience in dance i really like this series :> i hope u can do txt in the future, imo i think they’re all really good performers and i wanna know some technical stuff from ur pov. also since the members are very tall i’m curious to see how their heights affect their dancing
kim lip is so talented she’s main dancer and at LEAST lead vocalist material
good video!! you should watch their "full moon" cover because the "dance line" (your top 5) really killed the choreography there :)
Thank you for your kind words!!!! 💙💙💙 Also, that Full Moon cover was one of my main motivating factors to make this video! ☺ Their facials, stage presence, technique, etc was all beautiful and I was like "does ... does LOONA have 5 main dancers??"
Idk if you take requests, but what about Weki Meki? Their entire group looks like it's the dance line, it's crazy lol.
I would put choerry in my top 3!! Her dancers always flow so well and she has unmatched stage presence. She really sells the choreo.
super agree with this
first, They have strong team-work (in perfomance). If you breakdown their choreo per member maybe you’ll say it’s boring but when they united, they can make a beautiful performance and you’ll drop your jaw.
and then members giving 18/20 points of hardwork and 2/20 skills (HaSeul i miss you). That’s why maybe some people says that some of the members not enough to be in a girl group (even the industry didn’t accept loona with this term). So that’s why you should appriciate them so much!
Hyunjin usually underperforms almost every time. But have you seen her destroy that butterfly choreo when she's center for the second chorus in the dance practice? She went hard af
Yves is #1
Me: Pretends to be suprised
This video allowed me to appreciate Olivia Hye’s dancing ability! I wasn’t aware of how good she was until now.
i am sad to see yeojin so low, but i really appreciate you seriously discussing vivi here. most people shove her to the bottom without thought : / loona really needs to do something cute again because many of the underrated members (and those who ranked low in dance) do so much better with lighter cuter dances. i really think if bbc wasnt doing mature/bad ass/hype stuff right now, the 1/3 members + yeojin (excl heejin ofc) would shine so much more as they were chosen for what they bring to cute concepts : /
Yeojin also suffers from a disadvantage because of her height, she's the smallest of the group and really small in general, it's harder for small people to dance well and do long and gracious movements, also considering that they make her wear high heels or platforms in every performance (she has like 5-6cm platforms during the butterfly performance, she was 16 at the time) , it doesn't make it easier for her
i don't know much about dancing and you really went in with comparing the market of 4th gen idols ( like damn, it's going deep) i like that
I agree with this ranking!!
Also could you do Seventeen just a suggestion
i don't understand anything about dancing so this ranking seems legit! i would just have liked to see more than that one preformance's fancam, like when you say someone is good at freestyle, there should be a clip of them freestyling and ect
they usually do include other videos when discussing things like freestyling or other things that are not present in the fancam they're showing but in this instance, i believe they are a new stan/casual listener of loona so they may not know of that many clips to include (this is just what i think the reason is so i may be wrong maybe they just didn't have any examples they wanted to bring up :D)
this is a good ranking for my self as a dancer anyways here is my ranking imo:
1.yves
2.kimlip
3.heejin
4.hyejoo
5.choerry
6.gowon
7.hyunjin
8.chuu(well she improved a lot)
9.jinsoul
10.vivi
11.yeojin
12.Haseul💚
this is by their skills imo
no because this is the only channel that genuinely has certified reasons to their placements, and makes sense, no offense or hate to others, all these rankings make complete sense, loona power group!
if you rank them rn, i bet heejin would be number 1
I just discovered your channel and now I'm bulk watching your videos coz i rlly love them😂 can you please do victon dance ranking for your next video?