VW Golf 8 Corrosion Test - how VW cars are tested against rust

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  • Опубліковано 3 сер 2020
  • This is how VW tests its cars against rusting process, including the new VW Golf 8.
    Volkswagen engineers simulate the ageing process of a car in just six months to reproduce 12 years of car ownership by a customer. We explain the corrosion protection measures that apply for all Volkswagen models - classic combustion engine models as well as the new electric models from the ID. range.
    Corrosion - commonly referred to as rust - is the enemy of all cars. That makes protecting against corrosion vital when it comes to value retention, safety, customer satisfaction and, not least, the image of a company. For decades, Volkswagen has been consistently applying corrosion protection measures to ensure high product quality. Corrosion protection starts long before production - in fact, it is designed into each new vehicle model from the outset. Months before and after production ramp-up, future vehicle models undergo comprehensive tests on a special proving ground and in the lab to simulate all the stresses a car goes through in its life in a short period of time.
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  • @realtimecartravel
    @realtimecartravel 3 роки тому +2744

    They worked hard to recreate ordinary Moscow conditions.

  • @TXSmrs99
    @TXSmrs99 3 роки тому +2441

    6 months of "extreme" stress testing for what we would describe as a normal day on Romanian roads. Others can relate also, I'm sure of that.

    • @lazar2175
      @lazar2175 3 роки тому +82

      Yeah i live in Serbia, very close to Romania and we have similar road conditions, sometimes even worse if you have to drive on older village roads.
      Not sure about testing, but we sure have a lot of rusty Mk4, Mk5 and Mk6 golfs and B5 and B6 passats

    • @radoslavtomov9121
      @radoslavtomov9121 3 роки тому +18

      Same in Bulgaria.

    • @answsentinel
      @answsentinel 3 роки тому +15

      Same in Hungary.

    • @wilmar268
      @wilmar268 3 роки тому +1

      Bolivia too

    • @wezelhond5572
      @wezelhond5572 3 роки тому +2

      Same in the Netherlands

  • @adamgabor374
    @adamgabor374 3 роки тому +2243

    1 day in Romania = 12 years VW corrosion test

    • @popa777alexandru
      @popa777alexandru 3 роки тому +19

      @TheCamshafter You have to drive through Romania and you will see 😂

    • @BlessOfficialRO
      @BlessOfficialRO 3 роки тому +35

      vand golf 4

    • @Sander00
      @Sander00 3 роки тому +42

      Try driving in Norway where we salt our roads during the winters 😂 Even a 2-3 year old VW starts showing sign of rust 🤣

    • @Sander00
      @Sander00 3 роки тому +23

      @TheCamshafter, compared to other car brands, VW is among the worst when it comes to rust.

    • @mdma4202
      @mdma4202 3 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣

  • @geenicoll2920
    @geenicoll2920 3 роки тому +788

    The Passat B6 clearly got lost on it's way to said testing .....

    • @serbanmirica8120
      @serbanmirica8120 3 роки тому +32

      Had one for more than 10 years in my family and it had just a few spots of rust around the license plate lights in the rear, now I have a B7 and it's completely rust free.

    • @generationx227
      @generationx227 3 роки тому +26

      @@serbanmirica8120 Not for long

    • @tainea-h6879
      @tainea-h6879 3 роки тому +15

      Maid001 My B7 is an absolute nightmare with rust.

    • @shultz4877
      @shultz4877 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah b6 have really big rust problems un my contry😅

    • @sheffield8184
      @sheffield8184 3 роки тому +3

      And the mk4 golf

  • @rockervdrive
    @rockervdrive 3 роки тому +468

    The conditions might be equivalent to 12 years, but it takes rust a while to really settle and spread. Not sure if you can condense 12 years of this process to just 6 months.

    • @UhOhUmm
      @UhOhUmm 6 місяців тому +27

      It doesn't actually matter with modern cars, rust is barely worth thinking about. They all use a modern zinc coating which is applied to a fully assembled frame at this point so to get any worrying rust there has to be frame damage.

    •  6 місяців тому +69

      ​@@UhOhUmmGalvanized car bodies have been a thing for decades now, yet as I'm writing this, rust is munching it's way though 15 year old VW Golf sills so you can almost hear it...
      It's a surprisingly common misconception that galvanizing solves all car rust issues. If people only knew pretty much all the old rusty cars they see are actually made of galvanized steel...

    • @s0nnyburnett
      @s0nnyburnett 6 місяців тому +15

      @@UhOhUmm clearly you don't live in the northeast us or anywhere that uses calcium chloride road salts

    • @UhOhUmm
      @UhOhUmm 6 місяців тому +1

      @ decades ago panels we're coated separately or in selective areas, full body coating before painting is not a that old, if we take the Golf for example only from Golf 5 did they start full body plating. Of course it doesn't prevent rust completely, with a lot of paint damage the coating itself will not protect it for long.

    • @1marcelfilms
      @1marcelfilms 6 місяців тому +11

      And why would they want you to keep the car for 12 years?

  • @johnthegreek7356
    @johnthegreek7356 3 роки тому +361

    (Extreme tests)
    People who don’t live in Western Europe:
    *Laughs in everyday driving conditions *

    • @AA-777-AA
      @AA-777-AA 3 роки тому +5

      The streets are the same in many parts of Germany because no one is taking care of them hahah

    • @overPowerPenguin
      @overPowerPenguin 3 роки тому +2

      @@AA-777-AA Come on. I wish I had the streets that aren't cared in Germany on my country. Probably even the worst looks better than some in the Est.

    • @AA-777-AA
      @AA-777-AA 3 роки тому

      @@overPowerPenguin Well I made a road trip trough 7 Eastern European countrys and the streets in a bad shape were pretty much the same for me

    • @blanco7726
      @blanco7726 3 роки тому +1

      Ahaha let me present you Belgium my good friend ;)

  • @optimushd1044
    @optimushd1044 3 роки тому +271

    The trick is that they used a new Golf for each scene. lol

  • @Gooshi39
    @Gooshi39 3 роки тому +271

    The most British sounding German ever.

    • @dennisreilly6012
      @dennisreilly6012 3 роки тому +3

      and simultaneously inaudible, so strange

    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 3 роки тому +6

      @@dennisreilly6012 He sounds like he is trying to make himself sound more sophisticated than he is.

    • @sebasti02
      @sebasti02 3 роки тому

      He even said autumn instead of fall

    • @user-zt4ry9hm9u
      @user-zt4ry9hm9u 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds constipated...

    • @Thawhid
      @Thawhid 3 роки тому

      Lool

  • @immDroidz
    @immDroidz 3 роки тому +53

    These "stress tests" are just every day conditions where i'm from in northern Sweden. My 2009 passat is rusted to all hell in the wheel wells and the trunk.

    • @immDroidz
      @immDroidz 3 роки тому +7

      @@NSDflug Yeah, my friend got a 2013 and it started rusting after just a few months, at least the dealer payed to fix it.

    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 3 роки тому +1

      Eventually I will be moving to Sweden from the U.S....(most likely in the far north).

    • @immDroidz
      @immDroidz 3 роки тому

      @@fortheloveofnoise9298 that's awesome, I live in the "middle north" part, I met an American that moved out here 5 years ago and he said the only complaint was the taxes haha.
      May I ask, why Sweden of all places?

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 3 роки тому +6

      I think they don't galvanize their cars any more, the Golf 4 didn't have such problems.
      But that's the case for all German manufacturers, this cars are today only built for the typical leasing period.

    • @user-zt4ry9hm9u
      @user-zt4ry9hm9u 3 роки тому

      So true also had a completely rotten 2007 Passat at 6 years old. Meanwhile my 2000 opel astra g has tiny rust on the rear arch's and 2007 Citroen C4 looks surprisingly like new underneath.

  • @NotCommanderShepard
    @NotCommanderShepard 3 роки тому +67

    "That car was perfectly seasoned." - Gordon Ramsay

  • @davewright732
    @davewright732 3 роки тому +95

    Tested to last through warranty periods :)

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 3 роки тому +10

      yep as with all german cars..soon as the warranty is up it'll start rusting and falling to pieces.
      i see these vw's daily full of rust...these twats still buy them though..i wouldn't have a vw audi or merc if you gave me it for free

    • @nikko1984
      @nikko1984 3 роки тому +1

      @@isaachunt5799 These german will answer to you : that's customer's fault! In every areas they're doing that. Verdammt' Kunde! Nein nein nein, der Kunde musst bezahlen! Wie alt ist den Fahrzeug??... Nur 3 Jahren? Hmmm Wolfgang was hast du gemacht?!...
      Not even 100000km the turbo from 1.4 TSI dead.
      I'd rather to take a dacia now than buying recent VAG products. At you're not disappointed.

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 3 роки тому

      @@nikko1984 pos junk cars.
      would never ever buy one..

    • @benjibailey
      @benjibailey 3 роки тому +5

      @@isaachunt5799 you do know that VW are one the best car engineering companies in the world? These cars are built to last. I still own a mk5 with 160k miles

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 3 роки тому +1

      @@benjibailey lol yeah right
      my bosses passat rusted away in 8 years flat. he crapped it last year.
      these junk cars fall to pieces.

  • @BiHsinalco
    @BiHsinalco 3 роки тому +210

    As someone working in metal surface protection in automotive industry. I must say they really do have high and precise standards. We often have to test their parts in salt chambers (emulates corrosion) for a long time. Automotive industry has one of the highest standards in the world

    • @furkanesen99
      @furkanesen99 2 роки тому +3

      then whic one audi 3 sportback or golf 8?

    • @jimj2683
      @jimj2683 8 місяців тому +8

      Why are VWs usually rusting more than competitors like Toyota?

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@jimj2683they're about the same. Only Volvo could be considered an outlier in the industry.

    • @kaiserhhaie841
      @kaiserhhaie841 6 місяців тому +3

      @@jimj2683 maybe because the owners dont take care of them properly

    • @quyle9483
      @quyle9483 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@jimj2683where? Where do you see this? Maybe a 15 year old vw compared to a 1 year old toyota? I use to work for both

  • @V3DT
    @V3DT 6 місяців тому +68

    I can say as someone who lives in Ohio where they salt a lot in the winter because of lake effect, when I've been to one of the local junkyards I've noticed a lot of older early 2000s VWs with very little rust, yet some slightly newer are rusted pretty bad.
    The only different I kept seeing is the ones with little or almost no rust on the body were made in Germany while the ones with easily noticeable rot on the body where made in other places like Mexico.

    •  6 місяців тому +8

      The late 90's and early 2000's VW's (like Golf IV) are not bad. But mid 2000's and on (like Golf V) are a lot worse...

    • @Matys1975
      @Matys1975 6 місяців тому +5

      Spray FluidFilm once per year in the fall on your undercarriage and you will not have rust.

    • @CurrySchuessel
      @CurrySchuessel 6 місяців тому

      That can be true, some factories don’t have the same experience. They also use weaker steel

    •  6 місяців тому +2

      @@Matys1975 Structural rust often starts from inside the cavities, so you'll have to be thorough with Fluidfilm of whatever you use.

    • @GabrielHakulin
      @GabrielHakulin 6 місяців тому

      Very right. Even in Europe. Car made for Central Europe has different treatment against rust compared to Southern Europe or Scandinavia.

  • @helsonly722
    @helsonly722 3 роки тому +83

    craigslist be like:
    mint condition, Lady driven, garage kept, never driven hard. only 6 month old.

    • @TristanSilverwood
      @TristanSilverwood 3 роки тому +5

      UA-cam comments be like:
      Non stolen joke, never seen before, completely original, not overused, 3 years old

    • @FVBmovies
      @FVBmovies 3 роки тому +1

      @@TristanSilverwood Doesn't make it less valid. He forgot to add "driven only to church on Sunday's".

    • @exaltedstinger1431
      @exaltedstinger1431 3 роки тому +1

      @@FVBmovies And what about "No low-ball offers, I know what I have"? That's a cult classic.

  • @MrMladen942
    @MrMladen942 3 роки тому +32

    This blue golf will end up in Eastern Europe car lot, “nana drove it to farmers market on Sundays only.”

  • @BluWarta92
    @BluWarta92 3 роки тому +109

    *After rust protection*
    Nobody:
    VW: Das Rust.

    • @Alex-zh9lj
      @Alex-zh9lj 3 роки тому

      @Philipp Weidner ich glaub das hätte ein Scherz sein sollen

  • @Christian-sf4gf
    @Christian-sf4gf 3 роки тому +65

    I'm German, but ... VW cars + many from its VAG group are getting more and more expensive,
    VW / AUDI has become very arrogant, the production is getting cheaper and cheaper.
    Some of the customers are test drivers, manufacturing defects, and the following repair costs, which the customers very often have to pay for themselves.
    Did they have to work properly at VW for the video?
    Did they test the Golf 7 like the golf 8 ?
    The funny thing is that the Golf 7 has very big problems with water in the interior.
    - Loudspeakers seal the doors until they start to leak and water leaks into the interior.
    - Condensation from the air conditioning in the interior, .....
    Since the Golf 4 is no longer fully galvanized, suddenly rust on the roof, etc.
    Unfortunately, the cars are no longer built to last ...

    • @Mr.Riffian
      @Mr.Riffian 3 роки тому +7

      Sadly if you want a car without rust problems you will have to buy a French car. They have other problems but not rust related.

    • @MrWotan109
      @MrWotan109 3 роки тому

      VW love their recalls which customers have to waste time to bring in their car to dealers.

    • @ALINUED
      @ALINUED 3 роки тому +10

      @@Mr.Riffian French car? no thanks, i don't wanna became an electrician.

    • @janix3723
      @janix3723 3 роки тому

      @@ALINUED :D

    • @bendude6748
      @bendude6748 3 роки тому +5

      @@Mr.Riffian is that a joke? French cars are one of the worst for rust lol

  • @Anonymous13448
    @Anonymous13448 6 місяців тому +4

    that wheel spin transition was perfect

  • @Alexandru-T.
    @Alexandru-T. 3 роки тому +40

    Looks like a very easy test. As mentioned, for some countries these conditions are found in a daily commute.
    If you want reliable results, test it like this for 3 years every single day.

    • @vladmihai306
      @vladmihai306 6 місяців тому +8

      the car has to be on the market, they don't have 3 years...

    • @jackpez
      @jackpez 6 місяців тому +3

      yeah but they literally drive it for 6 months straight and like they said it’s equivalent to 12 years

    • @Dexspic
      @Dexspic 6 місяців тому

      Well if u want to wait 12 years to have the car with pay it...@@jackpez

  • @gothips
    @gothips 3 роки тому +46

    This Golf having its last heavenly days before its Turkey experience

  • @FredGoe
    @FredGoe 3 роки тому +53

    Golf Mk5 and Touran Never Heard of it

    • @Chowbizful
      @Chowbizful 3 роки тому +3

      My golf 5 had a lot of rust

    • @mcniki12
      @mcniki12 3 роки тому +1

      i own a golf 5 2004 production , there is only a couple of rust spots. No real big issues.

    • @MrWotan109
      @MrWotan109 3 роки тому

      Cause the real engineers died with the mk5

    • @mcniki12
      @mcniki12 3 роки тому

      @@MrWotan109 it's much better. Then the mk4. It corners better, handles better.
      More space in the car. Also it's cheaper to maintain then the mk4. I never considered mk4 an option to buy, after i drove one. mk5 is nothing like the mk4. Much better car if you take care of it.

    • @nikko1984
      @nikko1984 3 роки тому

      @@mcniki12 what engine do you have ? That 1.9 tdi maybe? Because as up now, it's the only one who few of them survived on the roads..

  • @tomasrandom6430
    @tomasrandom6430 3 роки тому +277

    just buy back high millage 10 year+ old cars that were driven in bad conditions and improve from there. That would save you so much "testing" time.

    • @arunmfive
      @arunmfive 3 роки тому +65

      That's literally what Toyota does. They simply buy back cars that have been pushed to the extreme by its owners and that still run. This accelerated testing doesn't really account for actual wear and tear and damage caused by deteriorated parts that happens over the course of say 10 years of ownership.

    • @tomasrandom6430
      @tomasrandom6430 3 роки тому +48

      @@arunmfive I believe this "testing" is just for the marketing..

    • @Felipaugustoex2612
      @Felipaugustoex2612 3 роки тому +34

      And how would they test new cars?! They have to start these tests even before launching the vehicle

    • @DZGMR94
      @DZGMR94 3 роки тому +32

      So you are saying that new cars don't need tests? I can't believe how stupid you are.

    • @boxr_4214
      @boxr_4214 3 роки тому +5

      that's helpful but only as an aid to accelerated testing. they can't just make some changes and hope for the best. the new cars can be tested, and some information can be gathered from old cars. but waiting 10 years simply isn't quick enough to make good changes.

  • @KGWOLF77
    @KGWOLF77 3 роки тому +46

    Have 2 Golfs... 1990 Mk2, that we have for 17 years, 10 of them was all year usage on Eastern European roads (gravel, forest, mud, salt, snow, destroyed asphalt), and only now, there are some issues with corrosion (only where paint chipped or erased). 2007 mk5, bought in 2018, before was driving in Frankfurt-Main region, it was almost in mint condition. Now, all underneath is pealing off and rusting, especially where spot welds are. Car is accident free, original paint all around. Thin, water based paints and cold zinc coating is a mistake.

  • @dragosalexpop
    @dragosalexpop 6 місяців тому +6

    So that's why the bonnet of my MK7 is full of chips. They tested for it (1:38) and they went with such thin paint nonetheless... Also the rust starting to form along the wheel arches shows they did a really good job at protecting it even it they know it and tested it (1:53)

  • @supersanex_x
    @supersanex_x 3 роки тому +5

    Carwow needs a test track like this.

  • @dhies1792
    @dhies1792 3 роки тому +113

    well u wont even hear a noise inside a new car. they must test these cars after 4-5 years. so its pointless. i live in rome, the roads here are the worse, had my golf 6 2
    years ago, no noise at all, just after a year and every part of the car is making noises. so it depends on road conditions.

    • @jackshotton9222
      @jackshotton9222 3 роки тому +3

      Did you not watch it? It says the stresses endured are equivalent to 12 years worth of road driving.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 3 роки тому +1

      They test the cars after months (not years, which would equate to probably ~100 years of testing :D) of accelerated testing...

    • @dhies1792
      @dhies1792 3 роки тому +1

      @@jackshotton9222 that dont mean a thing. a real world condition is taking out the car on normal roads and test it.what manufacturers say sometimes dont really add up.

    • @nartykros2756
      @nartykros2756 3 роки тому

      I live in Rome too, and my car also make noise noise and I have to change suspensions

    • @peterzingler6221
      @peterzingler6221 3 роки тому +5

      Cars are build for roads asphalt roads. Not a 1000 year old horse path.

  • @adriannp.
    @adriannp. 6 місяців тому +6

    Golf 4 here, 22 years in spain, between the Mountains and the sea, 0% rust.
    Its awesome.

  • @Thecris99
    @Thecris99 3 роки тому +48

    The frame is identical to Golf 7. Why VW makes all these tests 😂 : you can just take a Golf 7 with high mileage from Romania

    • @nikko1984
      @nikko1984 3 роки тому +1

      Plastic is fantastic. MQB chassis is maybe updating like a smartphone.
      Maybe not 😉

  • @Alloonney
    @Alloonney 3 роки тому +50

    Now show the TSI and DSG test.

    • @Elaba_
      @Elaba_ 3 роки тому

      The timing chain broke.

    • @luca35821
      @luca35821 3 роки тому +1

      @@Elaba_ my 1.2 tsi just felt that

    • @mouzz
      @mouzz 3 роки тому

      is it problematic ? im thinking of buying a used mk6 1.4 tsi 122hp with dsg

    • @Elaba_
      @Elaba_ 3 роки тому

      @@mouzz Do your research on Google. From what I have heard they have improved the engines recently by using a timing belt.

    • @Alloonney
      @Alloonney 3 роки тому

      @@mouzz not all really bad.... But if you ask me, i should not by 1.4 fsi/tsi private.

  • @evokeziah4290
    @evokeziah4290 3 роки тому +18

    Tests by VW are so trust worthy just like how they did the emission tests. 🤣

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz 2 роки тому

      Yeah Toyota too with their scandal that killed how many people??? Yet we are worried about emissions 🙄

  • @gabrielmanole6715
    @gabrielmanole6715 3 роки тому +2

    Great content, as always!

  • @n9wox
    @n9wox 3 роки тому +52

    After the test is complete, I want the engineers to try to remove the pinch bolt holding the upper control arms in place. It's nearly impossible without drilling it out.

    • @JohnCBradley
      @JohnCBradley 3 роки тому +3

      That’s what’s putting me off doing the bushings on my 6 year old A5

    • @paddyici6629
      @paddyici6629 3 роки тому

      plenty of heat, put the nut back on the thread half way and hammer the shit out of it, took me almost an hour of heating and hitting to get it to move, putting it back together just cover it in copper anti seize

    • @tt-rs1457
      @tt-rs1457 7 місяців тому

      The MK 8 does not have an upper strut, it has the same Frontaxle vw used on the 1973er Super Beetle , Mc Pherson.
      No doublewishbone, that's to expensive for a cheap Golf.

  • @TheDarknessConsumesMe666
    @TheDarknessConsumesMe666 3 роки тому +137

    Just make the whole car out of plastic
    It won't rust

    • @martinleska4292
      @martinleska4292 3 роки тому +7

      @@Max_s0506 Only outer shell on Trabant was made from mixture of fenol resin and wool fibers. Chassis and floor was made from metal. Its dangerous, because it looks good until something important fails because if you cant see rust you think is OK. On metal body cars - unimportant body panels rusts through first before some important parts fails.

    • @edwinator46
      @edwinator46 3 роки тому +1

      If they make cars out of plastic, they would melt on the sun. Especially around the engine where its hot.

    • @joshuachristiansen2626
      @joshuachristiansen2626 3 роки тому +1

      Saturns had plastic pannels. Chevy cobalts had a few as well. Plenty strong enough

    • @xxFobioxx
      @xxFobioxx 3 роки тому +2

      @@edwinator46 are you sure about that

    • @edwinator46
      @edwinator46 3 роки тому

      @@xxFobioxx no

  • @neino36
    @neino36 3 роки тому +83

    VW proudly announcing : "How vw cars are tested against corrosion."
    Me who's learned from experience: "They aren't..."

    • @scoobysean555
      @scoobysean555 3 роки тому +5

      Just wait 10 years n 5 owners later who don't clean underneath arches in the shitty gaps you will have rust 🤣

    • @generationx227
      @generationx227 3 роки тому

      Me to

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 3 роки тому +1

      The only thing they probably test is if they start rusting within the first 2 years of warranty (the rest of the car is also designed with this goal, and this is not only the case at VW).

    • @bigvinny333
      @bigvinny333 3 роки тому +2

      You should see quite a lot of Mk5 Golfs where I live in the mild weathered southern UK. There is plenty of rust on the front wings particularly at the top of the wheel arch, sills, rear wheel arches and door bottoms. Japanese and Korean cars of the same age generally appear rust free. I guess this is VW doing their own PR !

    • @martinweizenacker7129
      @martinweizenacker7129 3 роки тому

      @@bigvinny333 Right, but due to it's shoddy build quality the Mk5 Golf is a disgrace to the previous ones anyways. The Mk4 was the last good one. It peaked with the Mk2 - very durable, easy to repair, no major issues with rust (and we're talking about a 30+ years old car here) and in my opinion very good looking also. 😎

  • @ei9841
    @ei9841 3 роки тому +39

    Fun fact: They are not, they start rusting after 18 months.

    • @ei9841
      @ei9841 3 роки тому +2

      @Albinoid Maggot But they do.

    • @ei9841
      @ei9841 3 роки тому +1

      @Albinoid Maggot Sweden bro, but VW such more. My bosses car 1 year.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 3 роки тому

      @Albinoid Maggot they stopped to galvanize their cars (like the Golf 4 was).
      Golf 5s usually have big problems with corrosion, with rust holes in the sheet metal after less than 10 years.

    • @foppeslotegraaf-du5ye
      @foppeslotegraaf-du5ye 6 місяців тому

      The golf 2 was the last golf with corrosion protection

  • @InBoostWeTrust7MGTE
    @InBoostWeTrust7MGTE 3 роки тому +20

    the key phrase at the very end is - "12 year warranty against rusting THROUGH'' not that it wouldn't rust at all.

    • @ytuberization
      @ytuberization 3 роки тому +1

      Because that is technically impossible. You have to use rust-free steal, but this is very heavy and has other disadvantages (see DeLorean).

    • @hagglundguy
      @hagglundguy 3 роки тому +2

      @Dogs Bollocks Galvanised steel is just steel with a galvanising coating. You do know what that means?
      The galvanising is literally designed to rust. It oxidises slower and so protects the steel underneath for longer but it's main funcition is to rust.

    • @InBoostWeTrust7MGTE
      @InBoostWeTrust7MGTE 3 роки тому +2

      @@hagglundguy Rust or no, the new cars are generally made to last designed amount of years so that eventually (hopefully sooner) you would replace it with a new one.
      and thick undercoating would probably take care of the rust protblem for years but even brand new Jaguars comes with just a paint protecting the metal under the car.

    • @hagglundguy
      @hagglundguy 3 роки тому

      @@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE I knew all of that already except for the fact Jaguars don't come with undercoating. I live in Finland where cars tend to rust really fast due to salt and changing conditions. I just corrected @Dogs_Bollocks on the fact that galvanising is designed to rust.

  • @eggbirdtherooster
    @eggbirdtherooster 3 роки тому +31

    My 2000 mk4 is still rust free and still going strong !

    • @zdenekvelcer4067
      @zdenekvelcer4067 2 роки тому +6

      Mine too,no corosion.. mk4 coupe 2002..

    • @Mikescze
      @Mikescze 11 місяців тому +5

      you must have very low mileage or no salt on the roads in the winter. Mk4 golfs are usually very rusty where i am from

    • @tt-rs1457
      @tt-rs1457 7 місяців тому +2

      Because of the MK4 is the only galvanised unibody of all Golfs......

    • @Alex-AK321
      @Alex-AK321 6 місяців тому

      my 96 has some minor rust bubbles on the fender. and under the car like the brakes and stuff is very rusted.

    • @eggbirdtherooster
      @eggbirdtherooster 6 місяців тому

      @@Mikescze Lots of cars from that era can be rusty.. especially if you don’t clean the areas where debris accumulate round fenders, wheel arches etc that often or never. I live in the Netherlands. I know it’s not Scandinavia or Russia or something 😉 but still we’ve got here almost every year salty roads.. but yeah Mk4 have some little weak points like; bottom of the front wheel arches near the skirts. Beneath the rear window on the trunk cause of use of wrong window sealing kit. Some Audi’s round those years had the same issue.

  • @MrZimmaframe
    @MrZimmaframe Рік тому +3

    Mk5 Golf and mk6 Golf:
    Inner wheel arches where leaves and debris collect, and rear wheel arches at the front part where the fabric liner goes behind the plastic guard.
    (Top of front wheel arch mk5 specifically)

    • @Dakoo
      @Dakoo 6 місяців тому

      Also around door handles, trunks door and spoiler etc....vw never again

    • @eggbirdtherooster
      @eggbirdtherooster 6 місяців тому

      I’ve got a 2000 Golf Mk4 and besides some minor little bubbles on the bottom of the front wheel arches just above the side skirt, totally rust free! Most people don’t clean their wheel arches, bottom of the doors or what ever little ‘weak spots’ properly that often or never. Some cars and brands are more vulnerable for it ofcourse. But taking care of it is mostly the key factor.. 😏

  • @florinarnautu8393
    @florinarnautu8393 3 роки тому +4

    They test them so goot that my 12 years passat gets eaten by rust on every pannel , even the roof....

  • @junkieeebj
    @junkieeebj 3 роки тому +75

    and then u have every golf up to date that has corosion issues on front right and left fender lol

    • @bendude6748
      @bendude6748 3 роки тому +8

      Guessing you mean the front wing/fender panels seeing as the bumpers are plastic lol

    • @kerstas10
      @kerstas10 3 роки тому +3

      @JoneS SenoJ volvo sweden.

    • @Ivzu
      @Ivzu 3 роки тому

      @JoneS SenoJ No VW trucks are even worse.

    • @klavier285
      @klavier285 3 роки тому

      My mk5 had the rocker panels rusted, apparently very common on that gen.

    • @junkieeebj
      @junkieeebj 3 роки тому +1

      @@klavier285 it is actualy on every Golf in the last 10years. I had to remove the "sponge" material under the front right and left fender which was soaking the water, rotting and then causing the rocker panels to get rusty.

  • @avium746
    @avium746 3 роки тому +143

    all this testing, yet they still rust like no tomorrow.

    • @dariussedleckas8194
      @dariussedleckas8194 3 роки тому +21

      This golf was literally made this year

    • @funkblack
      @funkblack 3 роки тому

      @@dariussedleckas8194 Probably not this year.

    • @dariussedleckas8194
      @dariussedleckas8194 3 роки тому +4

      @TheCamshafter well 9 years is a long time tbh, but time will show not saying that vw makes best cars but not gonna trash them right away

    • @ndhkroatien999
      @ndhkroatien999 3 роки тому

      good thing about australia. NO RUST

    • @DobermannJeff
      @DobermannJeff 3 роки тому

      @Zombie Head wich

  • @CoreMaster111
    @CoreMaster111 3 роки тому +37

    They do these test and the are like: "Yes, this is rust". And then they do nothing to stop this rust from appearing. Of course they also take notes of everything and then throw them into the trash bin because they clearly don't remember any of them when they start working on their next car.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 3 роки тому

      I think so, the Golf 5 for example is rusting very fast, also the T5.
      They know how to get a good corrosion protection, the Golf 4 didn't have this problems.
      The same with Mercedes, they rusted from the early ninetees on (when they switched to water based coating) until the mid 2000s.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 роки тому

      @@simonm1447 golf 5 was a lemon, but after that they fixed the rust issues

  • @user-xl7fn9zf6b
    @user-xl7fn9zf6b 3 роки тому +5

    This is actually so cool and interesting to watch imagine there ws a video like this for every car

  • @dosko9980
    @dosko9980 5 місяців тому +2

    Only ever had rust problems with the passat b6 in my family. My old golf 4 is still being driven rust-free by a family member. Passat b5s are still very much rust free driven in poland and all around eastern europe. The only problems we ever faced where their turbocharged gasoline engines.

  • @Grudgie
    @Grudgie 2 роки тому +5

    I'd like to think this is what they actually do, but I get the feeling they don't do this much at all to test for rust - this is just a nice short movie that give s the impression that they are really thorough.. I could be wrong and that would be lovely.

  • @fal218
    @fal218 3 роки тому +37

    I have golf gti mk7 with 400,000KM and had two issues ! Once with car’s computer system but covered by the warranty around 40000km as I remember and just recently I had a problem with the gear and I would say I’m very satisfy with the car . Now with COVID-19 I think it will stay longer than planned!

    • @serbanmirica8120
      @serbanmirica8120 3 роки тому +12

      400k km on a GTI? WOW. I used to look at GTIs with less than 150k km on the market, but you changed my mind.

    • @sv_cheats1970
      @sv_cheats1970 3 роки тому +3

      @@serbanmirica8120 zavisi gdje se vozi. GTI koji je vožen po Njemačkoj autocesti većinu svog života nije isti kao GTI koji se vozi po balkanskim cestama.

    • @samsudinsamke8352
      @samsudinsamke8352 3 роки тому +5

      German roads I suppose..

    • @ur2slob724
      @ur2slob724 3 роки тому

      400,000kms wtf? Photos of your cluster or your lying

    • @sv_cheats1970
      @sv_cheats1970 3 роки тому

      @@ur2slob724 its belivable

  • @anyacori2898
    @anyacori2898 3 роки тому +3

    Good to know! Nice content😎

  • @Weihrauch88
    @Weihrauch88 3 роки тому +25

    No matter how hard VW test them. THEIR FRONT WINGS STILL ROT. Mk3 to current models. They still haven't got this right.

    • @Weihrauch88
      @Weihrauch88 3 роки тому +1

      @TheCamshafter spot on. 2010 mk6 golf here. Suffers with all you mentioned.

    • @mikeygti8930
      @mikeygti8930 3 роки тому +1

      2008 Tiguan here, front wings, perfect but have a small patch developing on the A post and micro blisters on the doors and tailgate. Getting corrosion underneath now as well.

    • @XxBluton36xX
      @XxBluton36xX 3 роки тому +1

      Have you tried putting it in rice?

  • @legyes
    @legyes 3 роки тому +6

    Hmm. That "extreme road surface" is like sine wave. Real road surfaces are more like triangle or saw shape (for example potholes and patches on patches), and never symmetrical. Like caress vs hits. Just test on the hungarian "road 52" at the maximum allowed speed.

  • @wisecountryman49
    @wisecountryman49 3 роки тому +6

    The Golf is and forever will be, the best family hatchback.

  • @sorelaxing5557
    @sorelaxing5557 3 роки тому

    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

  • @SamuelHernandez-oh9vl
    @SamuelHernandez-oh9vl 3 роки тому +4

    Apparently they didn't do this to the mk6 GLI's, I got rust building under my door panels already

  • @muwahh98
    @muwahh98 3 роки тому +29

    In my opinion the older vw had world class corrosion resistance. Newer ones. Not so much..

    • @tomhill3907
      @tomhill3907 3 роки тому +10

      Which ones😂😂they all rust like fuck

    • @Marauder252
      @Marauder252 3 роки тому +6

      From the Golf 4 the body is very strong aginst rust. They copied Audi how to galvanize and make rear fenders etc.

    • @tomhill3907
      @tomhill3907 3 роки тому +1

      @@Marauder252 aside from the front wings crumbling on the mk4?...

    • @socalguy829
      @socalguy829 3 роки тому

      @@tomhill3907 bear in mind mk4 golf is now 20+ years old. i had mk1 seat leon which had very little rust despite having hard life on UK roads

    • @furkanesen99
      @furkanesen99 2 роки тому

      ​@@Marauder2522022 golf 8 or 2022 audi 3 sporback?

  • @Twin.motors
    @Twin.motors 3 роки тому +6

    looks like a normal day in Romania

  • @codyrap95
    @codyrap95 3 роки тому

    This might be the best VW ad ever.

  • @Danny-204
    @Danny-204 6 місяців тому +2

    Only time will really tell, and with my 23 year old mk4 golf. It has been proven to work, there is no rust anywhere, she is going strong.

  • @bap60E
    @bap60E 3 роки тому +25

    LOL. When i rent à golf 7 in Munich , the car was 1 year. i saw some screws with big corrosion.
    Please improve your tests...or use the elementary rules of conception

    • @BlackRNGesus
      @BlackRNGesus 3 роки тому +3

      let me gues? a screw in the wheel housing? I drive a golf 7 and no problems. Even tho im living in the apine region

  • @sebastiansellers5849
    @sebastiansellers5849 3 роки тому +4

    I wish they tested the durability of the oil pump in my 2007 passat.

    • @D3nn1s_NL
      @D3nn1s_NL 6 місяців тому

      Or the water pump in the golfs. Something so simple, but looks like they want some issues on every car but only to appear after the warranty has ended 😂

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 3 роки тому +1

    This is pretty cool

  • @acuraonly
    @acuraonly 6 місяців тому

    thank you vw for testing this.

  • @midistunt9933
    @midistunt9933 3 роки тому +55

    algeria be like : that a normal day

    • @wwethemes2341
      @wwethemes2341 3 роки тому +5

      Tunisia Be like : are you challenging me?

    • @ChillBeats96
      @ChillBeats96 3 роки тому +3

      3endi golf 7 wellat chghol golf 1 , tgerbe3 m kol jiha

    • @havnav2842
      @havnav2842 3 роки тому +1

      Morocco be like : You guys are having roads.
      Destroyed asphalt evrywhere even whithin the city.

    • @zinomilan2220
      @zinomilan2220 3 роки тому

      دزاير تع هاربين

    • @havnav2842
      @havnav2842 3 роки тому

      @Bizcar Pro i know some moroccans who lived in belgium whenever they go into a pothole they start cursing the homeland and praising belgium for great roads. One guy once said that roads in belgium are like a carpets.

  • @ewanduplessis9682
    @ewanduplessis9682 3 роки тому +46

    Toyota: Laughing

    • @poolplexer
      @poolplexer 3 роки тому +1

      So true

    • @madfrosty5228
      @madfrosty5228 3 роки тому +7

      Yes theycorrode even more , I had 3 of them , good for desert not for winter and salt , very overrated cars .

    • @jigrodrigues
      @jigrodrigues 3 роки тому +7

      Toyotas are worse when it comes to rust

    • @jae9843
      @jae9843 3 роки тому +4

      I think that's Japanese cars in general: Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Mazda... They all seem to be terrible when it comes to rust.

    • @TheSkinheadlad
      @TheSkinheadlad 3 роки тому +3

      @@madfrosty5228 totally agree, just bought by many who dont know much about cars..

  • @ayboss44
    @ayboss44 3 роки тому +2

    Engineers forgot the Audi A3 8V

  • @Ryzza5
    @Ryzza5 3 роки тому +1

    Meanwhile my 2015 Audi A3 leaks large amounts of water near the rear passenger grab handles any time it rains heavily - most likely via the sunroof. The Audi dealer was unable to fix the issue.

  • @motorenbastler9289
    @motorenbastler9289 3 роки тому +8

    Nice the corossion protection is good but a golf ends up with a engine Damage at 40000km 🤣🤣

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 3 роки тому +1

      No, it isn't good, many cars after the Golf 4 (which was probably galvanized) started rusting very fast, the Golf 5 for example.
      They only test to get sure it don't start within the warranty period

    • @motorenbastler9289
      @motorenbastler9289 3 роки тому

      @@simonm1447 true. VW is shit 🤣

  • @Cesium135
    @Cesium135 3 роки тому +6

    Mine still started to rust after one year.

    • @nikko1984
      @nikko1984 3 роки тому

      That's because you're far from WOB. It's your fault customer, always...

  • @TheShubbah
    @TheShubbah 3 роки тому

    all this testing for my VW to collect water in the rear passenger side door and spew out about half a pint of water when I open the door! if not it seeps into the rear passenger side foot-well..
    Good job lads!

  • @deetailing
    @deetailing 5 місяців тому

    Best video on this content on YT, well done. Any chance of a UK one anyone?

  • @carbonio28
    @carbonio28 3 роки тому +31

    What about check engine light problems lol

    • @mikkei3532
      @mikkei3532 3 роки тому +13

      It is your problem not ours

    • @serbanmirica8120
      @serbanmirica8120 3 роки тому +16

      I had 6 VWs and I have never seen a check engine light on them, so your joke is pure nonsense 😅

    • @robertosgamingclips933
      @robertosgamingclips933 3 роки тому +9

      @@serbanmirica8120 Because the light fuse is removed or black tape over it :-D

    • @havnav2842
      @havnav2842 3 роки тому

      @@serbanmirica8120 Well have you checked the Check The "Check engine light" Light

  • @BlessOfficialRO
    @BlessOfficialRO 3 роки тому +3

    A new Check Engine light generation ?:D

  • @aidantanny7230
    @aidantanny7230 3 роки тому

    Man- looks fun to be a corrosion test driver for VW

  • @superchargdsoul
    @superchargdsoul 3 роки тому +1

    But can you avoid the check engine light?

  • @davisdesigns1153
    @davisdesigns1153 3 роки тому +5

    I have to give credit to german cars and their rust protection, my Ford started rusting after only being 5 years old

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 3 роки тому +1

      A golf 5 is rusting even earlier. This test may look impressive - the result at the cars is not impressive.

    • @AdrianKurian
      @AdrianKurian 3 роки тому

      Rusting where? I’ve a Ford that’s 14.5 years old with no rust outside except the underbody

    • @davisdesigns1153
      @davisdesigns1153 3 роки тому +1

      @@AdrianKurian roof seam and Door

    • @AdrianKurian
      @AdrianKurian 3 роки тому

      Angelo 😲 really? Which car is it and where do you live?

  • @sasoperme
    @sasoperme 3 роки тому +8

    Vw is cheqping out on everything lately. Im amazed how bad new vws are built

  • @vulturesus
    @vulturesus 3 роки тому +2

    Impressive

  • @randall96
    @randall96 3 роки тому

    Only 1000 genuine miles. 1 owner. Been checked regularly. Mint condition like new. Truly taken care of this beauty. No offers no refunds.

  • @BITTYBOY121
    @BITTYBOY121 3 роки тому +4

    What a great shame that BMW and Mercedes don't do the same corrosion tests and offer a 12 year corrosion warranty as Volkswagen !

    • @Beluga..
      @Beluga.. 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly ! I got corrosion on my 1 serie e87 i am mad

    • @BITTYBOY121
      @BITTYBOY121 6 місяців тому

      @@Beluga.. Tell me about it !... I had bad corrosion on my 1999 E39 540i back in 2013, It was so bad that the rear jacking points just collapsed whist I was changing tires ! - Sorry you've got the same corrosion problem on your E87 :(

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 6 місяців тому

      @@Beluga.. How did you manage? They're generally super good for rust.
      I'm in Norway where EVERYTHING rusts, even plastic yet the first gen 1-series doesn't, same with the 2nd gen.

  • @Bitulescu
    @Bitulescu 3 роки тому +24

    They test them just like they do their emmisions....

  • @19ZORES72
    @19ZORES72 2 місяці тому

    Golf 2, almost no corrosion
    Golf 3, sometimes a lot of corrosion
    Golf 4, 5, 6, 7, dead under front fenders after 6-8 years...
    What a progress!

  • @sportshatch
    @sportshatch 3 роки тому +1

    I have a 2012 polo with both front sills rusted through from inside.

  • @pilditajs71
    @pilditajs71 3 роки тому +8

    If VW is already testing, then why are the new cars rusting faster than the Golf Mk2 of its time?

    • @Big1_
      @Big1_ 3 роки тому +7

      These tests are fake like the exhaust of that blue golf.

  • @PurserArts
    @PurserArts 3 роки тому +31

    Imagine doing all this tests and then explain to everyone that your cars fail to comply with the pollution test...xd

  • @aor3200
    @aor3200 3 роки тому

    In Finland we have salty roads from beginning of october until end of April. There is lot of that stuff..
    Loose rocks/sand which hit first for paint, and then salt bath finishes that damage. Almost brand new cars are in very bad condition :(

  • @jaroslavvolek6222
    @jaroslavvolek6222 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s fascinating how high standards they have for all those tests. Although, both VW I have, 2011 Scirocco and 2020 Caddy suffer from rust from pain chips. But that’s the price you pay for using the cars daily, in Eastern Europe😂

  • @tatoum9743
    @tatoum9743 3 роки тому +9

    Trying to reproduce different climate in laboratory, it’s okay for some hours but the best and realistic test conditions are to put these cars in Nordic country for snow and on a tropical island. For example, the salty corrosion is the worst in Reunion island 🏝

    • @anthonyimouche541
      @anthonyimouche541 3 роки тому +1

      Je ne pense pas qu’ici ça soit pire que quelque part d’autre comme l’Irlande par exemple ou les routes sont salées, et le temps humide 90% de l’année.
      Ici ça serais plutôt la chaleur et les UV. C’est un climat idéal pour tester la résistance des plastiques, des peintures etc je vois beaucoup de Renault et Peugeot qui ont moins de 10ans avec des peintures ou le vernis est parti et des plastique ternis par le soleil

    • @tomluca2697
      @tomluca2697 3 роки тому

      Engineers aren’t dumb- there are VW test facilities in Norway and South Africa

    • @tatoum9743
      @tatoum9743 3 роки тому

      @@tomluca2697 Engineers aren’t dumb but the VW executives could be... You’ve already forget the diesel gate. It’s just a call to try their cars in Reunion island: we have a abrasive road near a volcano with tropical or dry season 😊

  • @linuxkernel4.199
    @linuxkernel4.199 3 роки тому +16

    I guess they forgot to do a carbon deposit issue test.. LMAO

  • @paulhenderson6092
    @paulhenderson6092 3 роки тому +1

    You didn't test the rear sliding windows on my T6 though did you?!

  • @RandomlnternetGuy
    @RandomlnternetGuy 3 роки тому

    Where was this during the mamkng of the mk4 (A4) platform

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade9508 3 роки тому +3

    They didn’t seem to test the golf 4 and 5’s or 6’s😂

  • @mvnorsel6354
    @mvnorsel6354 3 роки тому +4

    They can't stop the rot in the DSG gearbox, best avoided.

    • @peteriddqd
      @peteriddqd 10 місяців тому

      can you please explain ? i want to buy DSG of 2 latest versions of polo / skoda / ibiza

  • @koeningseggcraft
    @koeningseggcraft 6 місяців тому

    Can we talk about the rust proofing on the passat b6 please

  • @spicyroo4429
    @spicyroo4429 3 роки тому

    All of this especially the rough road looks completely normal lol this is what my fiesta goes through almost every day in Wisconsin lol. The suspension simulation looks smoother than what it Is like driving in Milwaukee.

  • @subiesubie
    @subiesubie 3 роки тому +4

    It's funny to see this, because if you type in "VW rust on youtube you get tons of videos of badly rusted VW's.

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 3 роки тому +1

      pos cars dude..depretiation and rust like hell.
      i see a 2011 passat the other day with more rust than metal..the moron that bought that junk has lost 50k in just 9 years lol..BUY A TOYOTA FFS

  • @jankowalski9822
    @jankowalski9822 3 роки тому +102

    your 12 years ''guarantee'' is worthless , I took my 8 years old passat to dealer because of few corrosion spots and the told me that is my fault, the car is accident free. My suggestion for your engieneres is to focus how to fix oil consumsion in your TSI engines, my got 156000km since new and it's burning 2l oil / 1000km, I will never buy VW again...

    • @deppen123
      @deppen123 3 роки тому +11

      Go get an bmw e39 straight 6 diesel. U will find lots of repair videos for every part. An they are cheap

    • @bendude6748
      @bendude6748 3 роки тому +2

      What reason did they give that it was your fault ?

    • @ark2364
      @ark2364 3 роки тому +31

      @@deppen123 Finding lots of repair videos for every part of a specific car isn't exactly good advertising though, is it?

    • @jankowalski9822
      @jankowalski9822 3 роки тому +3

      @@bendude6748 thay told me that is no point to check this ( I have 2 small spot of rust in side or car near window) because in 99 of 100 cases is customer fault, they check every point under microscope and there is always microhole in paint which caused corrosion, which of course warranty not covering

    • @RustyHeartsTOV
      @RustyHeartsTOV 3 роки тому +1

      @@jankowalski9822 possible stone damage. Of course they not gonna pay for that.

  • @justatiger6268
    @justatiger6268 3 роки тому

    And how well do all the complicated electronic gadgets and gizmos hold up to these stress tests and persistent corrosion???

  • @giochinina100
    @giochinina100 3 роки тому

    Golf , always on high level since 1979

  • @Snaap525
    @Snaap525 3 роки тому +6

    do you think it is true that they are doing all these tests?

    • @recanything
      @recanything  3 роки тому +1

      Probably they are doing them, but just once in a while (once every 10 years?)

    • @BrateTebra123
      @BrateTebra123 3 роки тому +1

      Why woundn't they?

    • @skatesneakerlover
      @skatesneakerlover 3 роки тому

      @@BrateTebra123 Common sense really, because a human makes the decision whether to test or not, and as we already know all too well - humans can't be trusted - they lie, steal, deceive, etc etc etc. And, because it costs money, and no manufacturer likes to spend money. Have you ever seen a manufacturer taking responsibility for something they've done wrong?

    • @ciankeulder802
      @ciankeulder802 3 роки тому

      They do it only once for each model

    • @greengrass9572
      @greengrass9572 3 роки тому

      They lied about emissions, they could be lieing here.

  • @gigabit942007
    @gigabit942007 3 роки тому +3

    Though test they say, that gravel road is cleaner and flatter than fresh asphalt in Romania.

  • @tldrinfographics5769
    @tldrinfographics5769 3 роки тому

    But what about the water pump? all those sensors? interior trims??

  • @rugijofrey3685
    @rugijofrey3685 4 місяці тому

    Nice vehicle comfortable and nice to use.