Brakes: Long and Short Pull Systems | Tech Tuesday

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Did you know there are short pull and long pull brake levers and caliper? WHALE you do now! This Tech Tuesday is all about work transfer, and making sure you're getting the most bang for your buck energy-wise in regards to braking. We'll explore exactly what the difference is between long pull and short pull braking systems, and what happens when you mix-and-match them.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 46

  • @HUKIT.
    @HUKIT. 3 місяці тому +19

    I haven’t physically touched a cable actuated brake for well over a decade but I’m always interested in hearing Calvin educate me.

  • @ninjazzrhythm400
    @ninjazzrhythm400 3 місяці тому +9

    When park tool shows a video, I fully watch it😊

  • @rstoick2478
    @rstoick2478 3 місяці тому +8

    Your use of the squeaking whale was genius. What an effective way to so intuitively help us understand these concepts, and more importantly, remember them. 🐳

  • @richcampbell3555
    @richcampbell3555 3 місяці тому +16

    Best explanation of this tricky (for me) issue I have ever seen. Complete clarity. Thank you.

  • @shoff535
    @shoff535 3 місяці тому +11

    Wow, this is great! I now understand why my “upgrade” to my ‘86 Paramount hasn’t been as crisp as I’d like. The paramount was purchased as a frameset originally and built up with parts on hand (back in’86). I used mostly early (‘82-84) Record components (matching brake set) and everything was fine. Then years later I switched the brake levers to late 80’s Record aero style. I ended up with that “squishy” feel that you describe! And no amount of cable “stretching” would resolve it!
    Wish I’d known this 10-15 years ago!😂

  • @clovercover5321
    @clovercover5321 3 місяці тому +7

    just had this problem with the compatibility some weeks ago when I build up a bike with spare parts that lay around. now I know why it was so squishy in the lever. super video.

  • @KetansaCreatesArt
    @KetansaCreatesArt 3 місяці тому +13

    Always feels great to listen to this wise moustache man ✨😎🍀

  • @Frostbiker
    @Frostbiker 28 днів тому

    This was fantastic, both in terms of the writing as well as the graphics. Thank you, folks.

  • @stephenturkLA
    @stephenturkLA 3 місяці тому +4

    Just to complicate matters, the Tektro RX1 brake at 5:42 is a "mini V-brake" with 85mm arms - shorter than a regular linear pull brakes, but longer than cantis. Functionally identical to the more expensive TRP CX8.4 which is (or was) primarily marketed for cyclocross use with short pull road levers. Very effective brakes, but need careful setup to get sufficient rim clearance.

  • @mikec2505
    @mikec2505 3 місяці тому +19

    Hey, Calvin! Where the heck were you when I was at school?!!

  • @rctedford
    @rctedford 3 місяці тому +3

    Damn, now I have to go back to work and replace a few brake levers.

  • @morlamweb
    @morlamweb 3 місяці тому +2

    Some Shimano mountain brake/shifter combos can switch between short-pull and long-pull compatibility.

  • @Fatbutnotflat
    @Fatbutnotflat 3 місяці тому

    Amazing illustration!

  • @sidhartasuryawirawan5424
    @sidhartasuryawirawan5424 3 місяці тому

    That’s why "park tool" Thx u sir, I got the point 👌

  • @sklegg
    @sklegg 3 місяці тому

    Really cool editing on this video

  • @donball370
    @donball370 3 місяці тому

    Thanks Calvin. Superb, informative as always.

  • @normanaguia1502
    @normanaguia1502 Місяць тому +1

    I need the bptt-1 tool !! Take my money

  • @revrendtelemark
    @revrendtelemark 3 місяці тому +1

    Informative and entertaining! Is the BPTT available in Park Blue?

  • @CalinCETERAS
    @CalinCETERAS 3 місяці тому

    I ride since about 1985, but I didn't know this. Thank you!

  • @siklistanggalangpinas5965
    @siklistanggalangpinas5965 Місяць тому

    Thanks for info

  • @MdBoj-n2v
    @MdBoj-n2v 3 місяці тому

    Nice Calvin

  • @bxlunltd5
    @bxlunltd5 3 місяці тому

    Great video as usual! Please make a video about the correct cantilever brakes settings up! Thanks ;)

  • @FuchsHorst
    @FuchsHorst 3 місяці тому +1

    Very nice. How about the cable pull ratio adapters that are available?

    • @parktool
      @parktool  3 місяці тому +2

      The "Travel Agent®" has been discontinued. It was a good fix, but no longer available.

    • @FuchsHorst
      @FuchsHorst 3 місяці тому

      @@parktool There are chinese "copies" by Litepro, a brand well known for Brompton tuning parts.

  • @juanjavieraymalabra9667
    @juanjavieraymalabra9667 3 місяці тому

    Buen video un favor podrías hacer un vídeo de sangrado o purgado de frenos xt slx Saint

  • @sylvainmichaud2262
    @sylvainmichaud2262 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks.
    With that video in mind, I will be able to avoid those sharks trying to sell me a used bike built with incompatible parts.

  • @beardnovs8732
    @beardnovs8732 2 місяці тому

    I farted 4 times during this, great video 🎉

  • @Technikfreak86
    @Technikfreak86 3 місяці тому

    PLS make a video to BLEED HOPE BRAKES :)

  • @OptimusCrime_69
    @OptimusCrime_69 3 місяці тому +1

    "well over an inch", that's what she said 😮 (probably not)

  • @sylvainmichaud2262
    @sylvainmichaud2262 3 місяці тому +7

    *Suggestion for the **_BPTT-2_* Make it so that it can be filled with water. A little *water jet* would be coming out on top when a force would be applied, *helping people with a hearing loss see the difference.*
    The height of the water jet would be proportional to resulting exerted force.

    • @morlamweb
      @morlamweb 3 місяці тому

      But the BPTT-1 's squeekiness just makesme smile.

    • @sylvainmichaud2262
      @sylvainmichaud2262 3 місяці тому

      @@morlamweb
      Then the solution is to market it as the BPTT-1S. The S standing for *_squirting_* and being made for those with _special needs._

    • @CalinCETERAS
      @CalinCETERAS 3 місяці тому

      The height of the water jet would be proportional to the resulting brake movement.
      To measure brake force (which is on the order of units or tens of pounds/kg of force) you need a much heavier duty BPTT)

    • @sylvainmichaud2262
      @sylvainmichaud2262 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CalinCETERAS
      You must be a women magnet in a party.

  • @rivnuts7398
    @rivnuts7398 3 місяці тому +12

    An an engineer, albeit an electrical engineer, I appreciate very much this straight forward mechanical explanation of long and short pull brakes.

  • @gnmatsu
    @gnmatsu 3 місяці тому +1

    Good stuff Calvin. Yes. Even in the automotive world this is a ratio study. Very well put together without getting in to all the math.

  • @johnjohannemann1220
    @johnjohannemann1220 3 місяці тому

    Always love the information and the presentation you provide. Thank you for what you do.

  • @paisfr
    @paisfr 3 місяці тому

    Hello Calvin , impressionnant de précisions 😊 Thank you ✔️

  • @chriswillis6916
    @chriswillis6916 3 місяці тому

    My LBS installed a "travel agent" to adapt the short pull brake lever/shifters I wanted on my new bike to the long pull cantilever brakes the bike came with. The system has been working great since 2003.

  • @sank2841
    @sank2841 3 місяці тому

    Thank you very much for this outstanding video !

  • @DuncanLuong
    @DuncanLuong 3 місяці тому

    I upgraded the hybrid shifter to road and the front derailleur just did not shift due to different pull ratio. Ended up replace front derailleur to road type as well.

  • @RustedBeef
    @RustedBeef 3 місяці тому

    Thank you! You have the best teaching

  • @TushhsuT
    @TushhsuT 3 місяці тому

    I hope it is not an instruction for brakes designers :)

    • @TushhsuT
      @TushhsuT 3 місяці тому

      But personally, I glad to have seen it. I had couple of bikes were the brakes were really hard to press and I think I now know why.