@@StuartOliver83 even if i could,the fear of damaging such a relic would be too much,i had simple sporty car before and it was constant worrying of damaging it or it being stolen.I dont think i could live with a car that nice
SUNOCO 280 leaded premium was 33 cents a gallon. Seven miles per gal, so what. The Union Pacific Big Boy locomotive used 996 lbs of coal and 464 gals of water per mile. Puts things in perspective. Cant beat the thrill ride either machine.
@@tredw66 Gas was 35 cents a gallon for 'Regular' when I started my first job as a "Full-Service Petroleum Transfer Engineer" AKA "A Gas Station Attendant" lol... I miss the good old days when we didn't give a damn about car emissions or the price of gas, we just wanted to burn rubber, listen to Rock & Roll on our AM car radio and enjoy that raw horsepower and torque in our Ford, Mopar, GM or AMC American Muscle Car!
@@tomj4406 exactly. they threw down a 6.9 (nice) second 0 to 60 on like 215s while neutral dumping it lmao. put some 295 width modern tires on it and i wouldn't be surprised if you knocked a second off of that time.
@@nickhowell168 yaa. if i recall, each full spin of a tire costs 1/10th of a second. give or take, based on tire diameter, ofc. probs like a typical 25-28" dia. tire That's a lot. when you think how fast a tire may be spinning in relation to movement? it can be happening pretty fast. a decent burnout can mean 10 spins! " 215's...lol, ikr? I hve those on my '93 LeBaron drop top! Fine for 150 hp..not the hot ticket in a 315 hp car, lmbo.
I never knew it had turn signal indicator lights in those hood "vents" ! A neat little touch! I remember some luxury cars back then had them on the tops of the fenders.
One of my old friends Saw the movie the Exorcist , bought a old Cadillac and that night he saw Red Eyes in back of the car ,,, Well you can imagine how much he was screaming He stop to the very first place with lights. Then he found out the car came with turn signals on the inside of the car..
Pretty sure even my winter-beater 2004 AWD Saturn Vue AWD with the Honda V6 could kick this things ass around that track. Maybe even with the snow tires on. Lolol.
@@gonepostal9101 Same for my beater '04 Explorer 4x4 on mud-terrain tires. Seriously. I know because I owned a '67 GTX 440 Commando for several years, and I can guarantee even with the Hemi horsepower advantage, there is ZERO chance of the Mopar keeping up on a simple road course with hard-braking zones and quick direction-change corners.
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide Chris, that is honestly one of the stupidest replies to any UA-cam comment I've ever seen. Pointless and completely factually inaccurate. The non-word "nother" is the icing on the crapcake.
I LOVE how Bud Lindemann said at 6:00 that the parking attendants at Car & Track's downtown offices would move the car every 5 minutes just for the fun of starting it!!!!!! It HAD to have been one badass machine to elicit that type of reaction!!!!!!
There is a phenomenon, drivers who never train control of skidding car, usually don't understand. The LOWER the grip, the EASIER it is to control the car. Another important thing is weight distribution. Typical front wheel drive car has weight distribution anywhere between 60:40 to 70:30, meaning when the rear skids, it loses grip very rapidly, and then, very rapidly gets it back, making the car almost uncontrollable for anyone who isn't a professional sports driver who trains that at least couple times a month when he's not racing. Rear wheel drive cars were usually designed to have about 50:50 distribution- partly the weight of transmission caused it, partly it was a desired thing to have some traction on the powered wheels. This means whatever axle loses grip, it loses it quite gently, and quite gently gets it back. Such car, especially when it's long, is very easy to control when it loses grip, just as long as the driver had a minimal training to get counter-steering right.
Chrysler, thank you for putting out these beasts. Can you imagine how proud the engineers would have been at seeing this?!! And hearing this kind of recognition, showing them that someone completely understood what they had been going for?
Este es uno de mis Dodge chargers favoritos aunque también es uno de mis favoritos muscle Cars Old pues este es nada más y nada menos que el Dodge charger 500 426 Hemi de 1969 pues buen video bro
I grew up with a mopar dad so I'm biased. The 1968 (my favorite year) to the 1970 chargers to me are the most menacing and tough looking of all the classic muscle cars. I'm currently searching for a 68, I have a very special mopar engine to go in it.
Ferrari México I have an appreciation for them all but to me the mopars were and are the best. My first car was a 69 coronet, moms daily was a 69 gtx and dads was a 70 super bee that I worked with him on all the time. This was the mid 90's, they weren't very desirable yet. They were just the cars dad grew up admiring and he could finally afford. Glad he followed it, it's not common to get to experience them in stock form anymore and know how they truly drove. I am very lucky to have experienced what I was able to because of him. Lots of grease filled fingernail memories along side him and when they finally fired up the look he had. I'll cherish it forever.
Notice the screw caps on the non-maintenace-free batteries on all these bud lindeman films when they open the hood. In those days you fried the battery if you let it run dry.
I didn't hear it mentioned; however, the HEMI appeared to have two 4-barrel carbs. 425 HP back then was something else. A 440 with 4-barrel, or the 6-pack, was equally fearsome; however, the HEMI was best at the high end of the RPM band. It was a top-end beast.
@@edpoe4622 Dont need to dyno anything Goober.....go back to school and find out the difference between fake gross dyno horsepower and real NET horsepower. The 426 was 350 hp NET not 425 and the 440-6 is 325 hp NOT 390.....my numbers are 100% and from the factory catalog 1972. Try again
@chadhaire1711 425 is pretty close to the real number. Chrysler underrated the heck out of the hemis. Most other top of the line engines from the other makes were underrated between 20 to as much as 50 horsepower depending.
@@buzzwaldron6195. Not buying it. A tune up and slicks doesnt drop the 1/4 mile 1.5 seconds. Besides, in the ultra competitive muscle car wars of 1969, why would Chrysler want their top car to leave the factory terribly detuned. Makes no sense at all. Nice try!!!!
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide - Back in the day, my buddy bought a new '69 Road runner 383 4 speed, it was helpless against my '65 GTO, my buddy was crushed... but then he talked to some Chrysler racers and they told him how to tune it up and then it ran side by side with my GTO... although it could never get off the line quite as well as my GTO, so I could still beat him... In this video, the torquey GTO beats the big cammed Chevelle stoplight-to-stoplight, 396 squeaks ahead if given a full 1/4 mile... ua-cam.com/video/SJIRitKQYrM/v-deo.html
Bud called it Cherry Red, but it looked Panther Pink to me! He had a way with prose, similar to Tom McCahill in his Mechanix Illustrated car articles. I'm surprised 14 secs was their best E.T. Joel Oldham recalled mid-13s in his memoirs.
I have heard their best 0-60 run times was after several repeated attempts, would not be the excessive wheel spin one shown on this video which was done for dramatic effect only.
@@johnmcmullen456 They are some really cool videos though aren't they? Man, had I only been born 20 years sooner I would have been buying these cars brand new!!!
@@1967davethewaveAs a teen I remember these road test reviews from the "Car and Track" syndicated TV show at that time. Awesome cars like this Charger that were affordable. Now worth a fortune.
Love how all of Bud’s videos leave me quite literally laughing out loud with his sincere intention of demonstrating those cars as real handling and braking masters, when in absolute reality... they were never intended to perform in those realms....not even a little bit! The videos come off as almost comical. Great blast from the past !
@@matthewboylez34 The used a different rating system back then and insurance reasons. Who knows that gross HP these engines had, but after all the accessories, crappy exhaust the were not putting out the numbers most think they were once in the car. The better why to rate is how we do now as Net, that is with everything on the engine, alternator, power steering the exhaust manifolds that were going to be used. People always talk about HP, and yes its important but what they usually forget to mention is the torque these types of engines put out. Most high performance big blocks put out nearly 500lbs to the wheels. That's why the accelerate so fast, Hemi's were not the best for light to light racing because you can never open them up all the way. That is better suited for track racing like NASCAR when you are at the top most of the time.
@CanadaCraig you cant compare 0-60 times from this era to now. the 1967 Lamborghini Miura was rated at 0-60 in 7 seconds and that was a super car of its time. The average car 0-60 time in the era was probably 12 seconds or more.
@CanadaCraig well a hundred years from now historians and car enthusiasts will still be talking about the legendary 426 HEMI. It doesn't have to impress you.
With good tires 0-60 could be had in the low 5-sec and under 5 with the a 4:10. Quarter mile times with tires that hooked up were low 13's. A tuned hemi produced closer to 500 horse.
Ok I can just imagine how much improved this could be with a full set of modern forged wheels an good radial tires! The go with full coil-over an disks all around, strip out a hundred or so lbs.
The 2nd generation Marlin was considered full-sized too---of course it was a hardtop as well. The Maverick was a COMPACT! I never thought I'd live to see the day when cars are becoming bigger and stronger again!
Greg Delia - Back in the late 90's I bought a very good condition 1971 4 door Dodge Polara 383 N. code. We had 3 young ones at the time and I though my family would be safe in this huge steel boat due to the fact that my wife was an air head when it came to driving. We all went for a drive when I brought it home, all 5 of us plus Gma's & Gpa. I sat in the back with the kids and my wife drove. We had a long very steep driveway. To my disbelief she punched it all the way up the drive and didn't let off until the top. My mother in law was screaming. After we got to the top of the driveway my father in law turned and said, "So kids, that's what it's like being in a fighter jet getting launched off the deck of an Aircraft Carrier!." Funny I was thinking the same thing. She scared the hell out of all of us. Looking back on it now, it was fun...
@@watnw2411 They did make 2 door sedans in the 1960s; it all depends on if there is a B-pillar. Back then you could order your Super Bee or Road Runner as either a hard top or a sedan, but in the case of Chargers they were only available as hard tops.
I always thought sedans were four door cars with a pillar between front and rear side widows. Without the pillar it’s a hard top. The Cadillac coupe deVille was a two door car. Apparently definitions vary.
@@Nicktheguy24 I would say it is a hard top coup intermediate car. Sedans are four door models. My dad had a '68 Dodge Charger (383 Cubic inch 4 barrel, Yellow with Black vinyl top). It was never referred to as a sedan.
@@Nicktheguy24 Well, I learned something new. The Charger is considered a sedan due to the number of places for passengers and the way the rear end is configured. A coupe has seating for 4 in a two-plus-two configuration or seating for only 2. The Charger had room for at least 3 in the back.
Got to love old Muscle Cars, their like strapping a rocket engine onto a covered wagon and calling it a race car! You had to have balls the size of Texas to drive one of these to its limits and most at the time did so while holding a beer in one hand.
As a Mopar fan I l🥰 the Charger especially the big blocks, Hemi or 440. Chrysler stylists knew how to style cool cars. That said much like most cars back then, it's the woefully undersized and too narrow low grip ancient tire designs that let that car and all muscle cars of the time down. Big and heavy body with powerful engine just overwhelms the tires and yes the brakes and suspension. But I don't care, I'd love to own that car... My favorite Charger would be the 1969 one from the Movie Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, followed by the black one in the chase scene in the movie Bullet.🥰
Looks like it handles shockingly well for the time, especially with the bias ply tires. Barely any roll when cornering, and nosedive was impressively little too when braking. These cars might have rode like crap compared to the competition but they definitely handled better.
those 60s tires werent very usefull with that hemi power . id love to see them do the exact same road test with some sticky modern radials on this charger 500
Probably drop the 0-60 time to under 6 seconds and improve cornering speed drastically. Even with the stock suspension and brakes, simply improving the tires to modern radials and maybe an inch or two larger would improve handling and performance drastically.
It's not a full size car nor a sedan. The Charger was on an intermediate chassis and this car is a 2 door hard top. The Polara and Monaco were Dodge's full size cars.
Rather have a Coronet RT or Super Bee! Really it's hard to figure what was on Dodge And Plymoth's minds because they brought out so many cars that were so similar. The Charger 500 and the standard Charger. The Charger started life as Dodge's answer to the Thunderbird in 66 and 67 but the 68 and later were pure Muscle cars along with the Coronet 440 and RT. Plymouth was the same way with Satellite, GTX and Roadrunner.
Jim Jones i wonder what bud lindemman think of the 707hp Dodge charger hellcat or challenger hellcat or Dodge demon with 800hp these road test seemed more road test and beat the hell out of the cars then they do today rip budlideman 1925-1983.
They might think old Hemis could make the same 800 Hp without turbos superchargers and nitros all new Hemis aré for pussys who cant build up horsepower without those adds Old Hemis can build up horsepower with just a better heads and camshaft package the old way
In 1970 in high school I put a set of them red line tires on my Rambler and thought I WAS IT ! I even volunteered to drive in my schools Christmas parade , but they said no unless I would pull a small float with a goat on it contained in a chicken wire cage . I wanted to show off my car and as embarrassing as it was , I said yes . You see , the goat was the football teams mascote . Everybody laughed at me but I didn't care because I was riding on them redlines . Couple months later , the goat came up missing ! A note was found taped to the flagpole in the town square from a rival towns high School football team saying they had the goat and they were going to cream us at the Friday night football game . Well , I heard it was a hell of a fight out on the gridiron that night , but I didn't attend because I stayed home and enjoyed some of the most succulent Bar- B-Q I have ever tasted ! Serves them right for laughing at a poor farm boy . Oh , yea , the goat was never found . BURP ! Your good friend Vinny in good old Fla .
We had a 70 Charger R/T with a Hemi when I was a kid. I remember a lot of the time it was hard starting , battery always going dead , and was in the shop a lot. But when you floored it look out , fastest car in the neighborhood ! Today , even a Toyota Camry could beat it !
@@jts9120 . Stop exaggerating. No stock car smokes the tires half way down the track. You don't go from 14s to 11s with tires and tune. Anybody involved in racing knows what it takes to take 2.5 seconds off a 1/4 mile time......alot! I hear excuses all the time why production hemis ran so mediocre on the track. These hemis can dip into the 13s with tune and tires. 11s...keep dreaming.
If I heard right, he said the Charger was in Race Red. But to me it looks like Panther Pink. Could be that the recording equipment of the time and the old reel is to blame too.
Panther Pink wasn't available until 1970. I suppose if this was a very late production '69 they might have been able to special order it as a 999 car with Panther Pink
The tires of that generation were so poor. Can you imagine if this car had modern day Radial tires how much better the performance would be. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It must have been hell going from these muscle cars to the crap they had in the mid 70s to mid 80s. My father had a 67 GTO and told me how piss he got when gas got to 31 cent a gallon.
As usual at the time that Hemi was in poor running tune. Once you tuned them, they all would run mid 13's at 105 or so..and 0-60 with decent tires in under 6 secs. Yes yes, the quarter mile times would be better because theyre spinning the tires, but without a MPH at the end of the quarter we dont know its state of tune...a HEMI even in a bad state of tune would spin those brutal tires, so thats not telling me much.
You are right and even a little high on the time. My grandfather was know as Old Hemi or the Hinsdale Hemi Guy. Guys would bring new Hemi cars or a few year's used If they ran at the track the week before or a few weeks and ran a 13.60 for heavier ones and 13.40 to 13.00 in the lighter hemi cars and they would get it turned?? You can bet they would run 13.30 to 13.25 for the Charger and the Cuda and Challengers would run in the high 12s to 13.05. He was so good he would guarantee 13 flat and 13. 15. He taught me the little tricks on the carbs, manifold and timing. Bone stock. His faster bone stock Hemi Cuda was 12.65 The Big ole Hemi Charger got into the 12.90 range. He was great with them and it was a Tune that was not too bad.
a typical 'right of the delivery trailer' time. ofc the sky wasn't even a limit with this engine..bonkers power was a tweak & tune away.. plus the right fuel made a big difference. in madison wisc at that time, clark 103 was THE fuel.
@@soxfunny98 Ya, I am 59 so was around even though I was only a kid...my dad was a mechanic and it took a special guy who knew how to tune these cars to get their max performance..mainly it was timing...pulled the distributor...increased the slow curve..all in at about 1900 instead of 3500...new plugs and points, rejetting the carb, making sure that it was working right..etc..the 440 six pack was the worst...coordinating those three carbs was sometimes a nightmare..I know it was for the factory...read up on it...by the way in this video...the car runs a 0-60 in 6.9 but runs the quarter in 14.1 but doesnt mention the speed...0-60 in 6.9 should be a 15 sec quarter but even though the HEMI was NOT in tune it started making up for the lack of low end ignition timing as it was moving...I can hear it in the sound the motor's making...
Going by how they tested and timed this they spent half the time just spinning tires and losing time. Better driving (Mayb a bigger tire) would have cut lots of time off.
The later street hemi wasn't as finicky as these old timers like to tell you. The 440 sixpak and 6bbl wasn't as hard to tune either. They were usually pretty good from the factory. It was uneducated and ignorant backyard mechanics that gave them that reputation. The car here ran "slow" because they were straight boiling to tires from a stop. It's obvious as hell that the car runs low 13s.
Owned a 69 Hemi Charger 4psd and a 66 Hemi Coronet A/T back in the day. Both were slugs compared to my 70 Challenger 440 6 pack. The extra 80lbs over the front suspension made for terrible handling. The Hemi HP was needed to launch the thing.
They were built for NASCAR, but were unstable. The Daytona resolved most of the problems and the Superbird was the epitome of B body winged high bank warriors. I would have loved to get a Hemi powered 500, 4 speed out on a road in New Mexico, Arizona, or Nevada in the spring or fall and stretch its legs with a 2.76 rear gear.
I am surprised that the handling answer was always available--NASCAR, wide tires were out there, and yet none of the tire companies bothered to make street versions of them?! When you look at the NASCAR versions of these cars, they looked so good with their race wheel/tire combos, but then they slap on these narrow pizza cutter wheels/tires combo onto all the period cars! The only exception from the era was the Mustang in 'Bullitt' but even that seemed to be the only Mustang with 'low' profile tires from that era.
I'm currently saving for one of these but brought myself a cheap runaround for now which is a vauxhall omega 2.6 V6 and it drinks fuel so 7 to the gallon is going to be an interesting daily lol and I'm in the UK ,🇬🇧😳
0 to 60 in 6.9 seconds and a 1/4 mile of 14.1 means this thing is not getting off the line very well at all. But that's the way it was back then. Pizza cutter tires
Even with the greasy tires, bad brakes, body roll, and sloppy tolerances I'd drive one today and love it.
Same here I'm saving for one now lol 👍🏻🇬🇧
@Adam Fears yeah I like those a lot but that's mortgage money lol
It's what made them fun and thinned out the crowd to find out who really was a Great driver before the "Stig" days on BBC !! Lol
@ jesus,and i thought trucks were expensive on gas,no wonder mad max could never get out of australia,his probably got 3 miles per gallon
@@StuartOliver83 even if i could,the fear of damaging such a relic would be too much,i had simple sporty car before and it was constant worrying of damaging it or it being stolen.I dont think i could live with a car that nice
"And if that does`nt excite ya, you better check your pulse". He always had a way with words!
HEAVILY ARMED love that name verb thing ect
“We had more wheel spin than a Las Vegas roulette table!”
The "Good Old Days"! You floor it, and the speedometer goes in one direction while the gas gauge goes in the other.
“More wheelspin than a Vegas roulette table!” 🤣
floor it at every green light.
@@racer98 Amen.
"Seven miles to the gallon"... *God how I miss those days!*
SUNOCO 280 leaded premium was 33 cents a gallon. Seven miles per gal, so what. The Union Pacific Big Boy locomotive used 996 lbs of coal and 464 gals of water per mile. Puts things in perspective. Cant beat the thrill ride either machine.
@@tredw66 Gas was 35 cents a gallon for 'Regular' when I started my first job as a "Full-Service Petroleum Transfer Engineer" AKA "A Gas Station Attendant" lol... I miss the good old days when we didn't give a damn about car emissions or the price of gas, we just wanted to burn rubber, listen to Rock & Roll on our AM car radio and enjoy that raw horsepower and torque in our Ford, Mopar, GM or AMC American Muscle Car!
Hemis will pass anything but the petrol pump.
@CC Ryder Hahaaaa yeah true to that mate I'm from Australia and I was talking about experiences I have had with v8s.
@@tredw66 Yeah but put that 33 cents by the mpg versus the minimum wage and insurance cost it was expensive to drive them back in the day.
Those poor little tires.
ikr? Ahaha. amazing these machines got those numbers on
tires that small. imagine with the brakes, wheels & tires off of a new charger?
@@tomj4406 exactly. they threw down a 6.9 (nice) second 0 to 60 on like 215s while neutral dumping it lmao. put some 295 width modern tires on it and i wouldn't be surprised if you knocked a second off of that time.
@@nickhowell168 yaa. if i recall, each full spin of a tire costs 1/10th of a second. give or take, based on tire diameter, ofc. probs like a typical 25-28" dia. tire That's a lot. when you think how fast a tire may be spinning in relation to movement? it can be happening pretty fast. a decent burnout can mean 10 spins! " 215's...lol, ikr? I hve those on my '93 LeBaron drop top! Fine for 150 hp..not the hot ticket in a 315 hp car, lmbo.
Tiny petite tires takes big block engine
probably F-60 15's on 15 x 6" rims
Panther Pink, torsion bar suspension, a real Hemi and announcer man going full dramatic on all aspects of the car are true classic 60's.
This is the holy grail of Chargers.
...'cept the Charger Daytona.
@@ozzy5368 - they made fewer of these than the Daytona
@@CommercialVehicle They made 50 Charger 500 Hemis and 75 Daytona Hemis. Not really much difference there.
S Wylie if that color is pink with it looks or moulin rouge it’s worth big money a 500 hemi that color would be diff I’ve neve4 seen a pink charger
I really don’t think they had pink in 69
"in rebel country, this could mean two or three miles an hour extra"
"....and four wheel drift is not defined in your Funk and Wagnalls"..Luv it!
You gotta love Bud's car guy hyperbole.
I never knew it had turn signal indicator lights in those hood "vents" ! A neat little touch!
I remember some luxury cars back then had them on the tops of the fenders.
mustangs had big cool ones
Chargers, Monaco's, cordoba, satellites, etc. Missed and very cool!
BaltimoreAndOhioRR 67-68 Mustangs as well.
@@vincentjoyce5100 I remember mustang's sequential rear turn signals, but I didnt know about the hood/ fender indicators.
One of my old friends
Saw the movie the
Exorcist , bought a old Cadillac and that night he saw Red Eyes in back of the car ,,,
Well you can imagine how much he was screaming
He stop to the very first place with lights.
Then he found out the car came with turn signals on the inside of the car..
"...body roll was not excessive."
*I just spit coffee all over my phone*
Pretty sure even my winter-beater 2004 AWD Saturn Vue AWD with the Honda V6 could kick this things ass around that track. Maybe even with the snow tires on. Lolol.
@@gonepostal9101 Same for my beater '04 Explorer 4x4 on mud-terrain tires. Seriously. I know because I owned a '67 GTX 440 Commando for several years, and I can guarantee even with the Hemi horsepower advantage, there is ZERO chance of the Mopar keeping up on a simple road course with hard-braking zones and quick direction-change corners.
I was an A body guy, but the 340 Duster and Slant 6/later 360 Scamp wouldn’t fare any better.
Most of what you see (on a sloped curve) is tires. Put that car on Michelin Pilots and whole nother ballgame!
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide Chris, that is honestly one of the stupidest replies to any UA-cam comment I've ever seen.
Pointless and completely factually inaccurate.
The non-word "nother" is the icing on the crapcake.
Those woefully inadequate tires.
good year polyglass were very well made.
but yeah, far too small for a 4,000 lb Hemi powered monster like this.
TomJ440 - but they make such a wonder sound locked up...
@@timheslin9185 ahaha, indeed!
Bicycle tires on there.....
I LOVE how Bud Lindemann said at 6:00 that the parking attendants at Car & Track's downtown offices would move the car every 5 minutes just for the fun of starting it!!!!!! It HAD to have been one badass machine to elicit that type of reaction!!!!!!
Bud Lindemann Lays the Lanuage on thick here,, ,this is one hell of muscle monster****
It’s a shame Bud is not around to evaluate the new muscle car era. 💪🏻💪🏻
He wouldn’t like it.
He would find them to be boring, but ultra-fast chick cars.
"...Balance of excellent handling and a good, comfortable ride..."
* Car goes careening towards the grass *
There is a phenomenon, drivers who never train control of skidding car, usually don't understand. The LOWER the grip, the EASIER it is to control the car. Another important thing is weight distribution. Typical front wheel drive car has weight distribution anywhere between 60:40 to 70:30, meaning when the rear skids, it loses grip very rapidly, and then, very rapidly gets it back, making the car almost uncontrollable for anyone who isn't a professional sports driver who trains that at least couple times a month when he's not racing. Rear wheel drive cars were usually designed to have about 50:50 distribution- partly the weight of transmission caused it, partly it was a desired thing to have some traction on the powered wheels. This means whatever axle loses grip, it loses it quite gently, and quite gently gets it back. Such car, especially when it's long, is very easy to control when it loses grip, just as long as the driver had a minimal training to get counter-steering right.
tires burnin rubber blows more smoke that 1960's frat party
Chrysler, thank you for putting out these beasts. Can you imagine how proud the engineers would have been at seeing this?!! And hearing this kind of recognition, showing them that someone completely understood what they had been going for?
Este es uno de mis Dodge chargers favoritos aunque también es uno de mis favoritos muscle Cars Old pues este es nada más y nada menos que el Dodge charger 500 426 Hemi de 1969 pues buen video bro
We only burned TWO TANKS of fuel during these tests... Baahahaha
LOL..LOVE IT... I have a 68 hemi charger..4 speed disc brakes..this makes me want to get it out of storage after 20 years and start working on it
Do it
Enjoy it while you can still get fuel that will at least run it, although not like it really needs to perform!!
I'm a GM guy, but that car is RIGHT ON!
Me too i remember when i was a Chevy guy
I grew up with a mopar dad so I'm biased. The 1968 (my favorite year) to the 1970 chargers to me are the most menacing and tough looking of all the classic muscle cars. I'm currently searching for a 68, I have a very special mopar engine to go in it.
Me too
@@ourtime-downhere6931 after blowing up two 350 small blocks and one 454 I turned into a Mopar Guy
Ferrari México I have an appreciation for them all but to me the mopars were and are the best. My first car was a 69 coronet, moms daily was a 69 gtx and dads was a 70 super bee that I worked with him on all the time. This was the mid 90's, they weren't very desirable yet. They were just the cars dad grew up admiring and he could finally afford. Glad he followed it, it's not common to get to experience them in stock form anymore and know how they truly drove. I am very lucky to have experienced what I was able to because of him. Lots of grease filled fingernail memories along side him and when they finally fired up the look he had. I'll cherish it forever.
Notice the screw caps on the non-maintenace-free batteries on all these bud lindeman films when they open the hood. In those days you fried the battery if you let it run dry.
Or it fried you. Forget to water them and they built up hydrogen in the airspace. Kaboom!
Maintenance free batteries have only really been mainstream for about 10 years, pretty much all cars up to 2010s had them.
Beautiful car. The good old days!
I didn't hear it mentioned; however, the HEMI appeared to have two 4-barrel carbs. 425 HP back then was something else. A 440 with 4-barrel, or the 6-pack, was equally fearsome; however, the HEMI was best at the high end of the RPM band. It was a top-end beast.
425 was the advertised horsepower...it was really only 350....25 less than a 2020 5.7 V-8 at 375
@@chadhaire1711 Yeah, dyno your Charger lately did ya?
@@edpoe4622 Dont need to dyno anything Goober.....go back to school and find out the difference between fake gross dyno horsepower and real NET horsepower. The 426 was 350 hp NET not 425 and the 440-6 is 325 hp NOT 390.....my numbers are 100% and from the factory catalog 1972. Try again
@chadhaire1711 425 is pretty close to the real number. Chrysler underrated the heck out of the hemis. Most other top of the line engines from the other makes were underrated between 20 to as much as 50 horsepower depending.
Bad ass car but they had some garbage tires back then
Horsepower Garage polyglass tires to be exact
Polyglas to be exact
Skinny polyglass tires on these heavy muscle cars, kind of sad.
14.1 Quarter Mile with those tires. That's like 12 seconds today.
Please..... On slicks, it picks up a few tenths for the 1/4. Probably 13.7.
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide - Slicks and a good tuneup give 12's in 1/4... most cars left the factory with a 'granny' tune...
@@buzzwaldron6195. Not buying it. A tune up and slicks doesnt drop the 1/4 mile 1.5 seconds. Besides, in the ultra competitive muscle car wars of 1969, why would Chrysler want their top car to leave the factory terribly detuned. Makes no sense at all. Nice try!!!!
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide - Back in the day, my buddy bought a new '69 Road runner 383 4 speed, it was helpless against my '65 GTO, my buddy was crushed... but then he talked to some Chrysler racers and they told him how to tune it up and then it ran side by side with my GTO... although it could never get off the line quite as well as my GTO, so I could still beat him... In this video, the torquey GTO beats the big cammed Chevelle stoplight-to-stoplight, 396 squeaks ahead if given a full 1/4 mile... ua-cam.com/video/SJIRitKQYrM/v-deo.html
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide It can and manufacturers did and still do under tune for longetivity.
Those Kelsey-Hayes wheels are worth BIG bucks. I believe they were recalled due to cracking. GREAT VIDEO!!!
These are actually steel wheels with hub caps on them. They do look similar to the recall wheels though. Regardless, this is an amazing car!
Bud called it Cherry Red, but it looked Panther Pink to me! He had a way with prose, similar to Tom McCahill in his Mechanix Illustrated car articles. I'm surprised 14 secs was their best E.T. Joel Oldham recalled mid-13s in his memoirs.
"More wheelspin than a Las Vegas Roulette Table" 🤣 had me laughing so hard
Had the outlaw wheels they were recalled for loosening back in 69
With all that tire spin it's amazing the quarter mile time was as good as it was!
Especially when they could only get 7 second 0-60
I have heard their best 0-60 run times was after several repeated attempts, would not be the excessive wheel spin one shown on this video which was done for dramatic effect only.
@@johnmcmullen456 They are some really cool videos though aren't they? Man, had I only been born 20 years sooner I would have been buying these cars brand new!!!
@@1967davethewaveAs a teen I remember these road test reviews from the "Car and Track" syndicated TV show at that time. Awesome cars like this Charger that were affordable. Now worth a fortune.
@@johnmcmullen456 Truly the good old days!!!
Love how all of Bud’s videos leave me quite literally laughing out loud with his sincere
intention of demonstrating those cars as real handling and braking masters, when in absolute reality... they were never intended to perform in those realms....not even a little bit!
The videos come off as almost comical.
Great blast from the past !
mark rylander
Lol....I agree
The Beast. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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The millienials are wondering if Bluetooth and Apple Car play were standard...
And could you get mufflers to make it sound like a gas powered lawn trimmer.
So cool. Love the 15" full size Dodge wheel covers. Modern radial tires would greatly improve the times of this car.
Actual horsepower way over 425.
@Epic Gamer Politics Why did they advertise so low?
@@matthewboylez34 The used a different rating system back then and insurance reasons. Who knows that gross HP these engines had, but after all the accessories, crappy exhaust the were not putting out the numbers most think they were once in the car. The better why to rate is how we do now as Net, that is with everything on the engine, alternator, power steering the exhaust manifolds that were going to be used. People always talk about HP, and yes its important but what they usually forget to mention is the torque these types of engines put out. Most high performance big blocks put out nearly 500lbs to the wheels. That's why the accelerate so fast, Hemi's were not the best for light to light racing because you can never open them up all the way. That is better suited for track racing like NASCAR when you are at the top most of the time.
@CanadaCraig you cant compare 0-60 times from this era to now. the 1967 Lamborghini Miura was rated at 0-60 in 7 seconds and that was a super car of its time. The average car 0-60 time in the era was probably 12 seconds or more.
@CanadaCraig well a hundred years from now historians and car enthusiasts will still be talking about the legendary 426 HEMI. It doesn't have to impress you.
@@matthewboylez34 Insurance.
With good tires 0-60 could be had in the low 5-sec and under 5 with the a 4:10. Quarter mile times with tires that hooked up were low 13's. A tuned hemi produced closer to 500 horse.
Ok I can just imagine how much improved this could be with a full set of modern forged wheels an good radial tires! The go with full coil-over an disks all around, strip out a hundred or so lbs.
Thank you for adding stability to this video! Judging by how the Speedvision logo was jumping around I bet the original footage was jerky indeed!
" it was noisy" , can't hear next sentence because of the hemi..🤣🤣🤣🤣
ahahahaaaaa...i love that part!
Love the John Wayne inspired delivery!
He keeps calling it a "Full Sized Sedan" my gosh, it's an Intermediate Sized Hardtop!!!!!
The 2nd generation Marlin was considered full-sized too---of course it was a hardtop as well. The Maverick was a COMPACT! I never thought I'd live to see the day when cars are becoming bigger and stronger again!
If the Charger was full sized, then what was the Polara, plus sized?
It clearly only has 2 doors its a coupe not a sedan idk why he kept referring to sedan maybe he could see the future
Greg Delia - Back in the late 90's I bought a very good condition 1971 4 door Dodge Polara 383 N. code. We had 3 young ones at the time and I though my family would be safe in this huge steel boat due to the fact that my wife was an air head when it came to driving. We all went for a drive when I brought it home, all 5 of us plus Gma's & Gpa. I sat in the back with the kids and my wife drove. We had a long very steep driveway. To my disbelief she punched it all the way up the drive and didn't let off until the top. My mother in law was screaming. After we got to the top of the driveway my father in law turned and said, "So kids, that's what it's like being in a fighter jet getting launched off the deck of an Aircraft Carrier!." Funny I was thinking the same thing. She scared the hell out of all of us. Looking back on it now, it was fun...
@@watnw2411 They did make 2 door sedans in the 1960s; it all depends on if there is a B-pillar. Back then you could order your Super Bee or Road Runner as either a hard top or a sedan, but in the case of Chargers they were only available as hard tops.
Don’t you just love it ...had one in 84 ...
0:31 Lmao did he just say “big full size sedan” 😂🤣 what a coincidence since that’s what the new charger is
I always thought sedans were four door cars with a pillar between front and rear side widows. Without the pillar it’s a hard top. The Cadillac coupe deVille was a two door car. Apparently definitions vary.
SuperMike1955 is the Charger is a hardtop not a full size sedan lol because I don’t see a pillar on the window
@@Nicktheguy24 I would say it is a hard top coup intermediate car. Sedans are four door models. My dad had a '68 Dodge Charger (383 Cubic inch 4 barrel, Yellow with Black vinyl top). It was never referred to as a sedan.
SuperMike1955 then why was this idiot referring to it as a sedan 😂🤣
@@Nicktheguy24 Well, I learned something new. The Charger is considered a sedan due to the number of places for passengers and the way the rear end is configured. A coupe has seating for 4 in a two-plus-two configuration or seating for only 2. The Charger had room for at least 3 in the back.
Best cars ever miss my judge
MrDjh66 yes also dodge darts from around that era was some of the most reliable cars hands down.
Love the dramatic music!
Wonder if this very car has survived and where it is!
@ no hemi chargers were used in the show
@ you don't have to believe me. Do some research
@ right over my head. 🙄
My parents made me in this car :)
He loves his gauges, as every comment re lights vs gauges elicited some smarmy analogy. I agree with him.
Got to love old Muscle Cars, their like strapping a rocket engine onto a covered wagon and calling it a race car! You had to have balls the size of Texas to drive one of these to its limits and most at the time did so while holding a beer in one hand.
As a Mopar fan I l🥰 the Charger especially the big blocks, Hemi or 440. Chrysler stylists knew how to style cool cars.
That said much like most cars back then, it's the woefully undersized and too narrow low grip ancient tire designs that let that car and all muscle cars of the time down.
Big and heavy body with powerful engine just overwhelms the tires and yes the brakes and suspension. But I don't care, I'd love to own that car...
My favorite Charger would be the 1969 one from the Movie Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, followed by the black one in the chase scene in the movie Bullet.🥰
Looks like it handles shockingly well for the time, especially with the bias ply tires. Barely any roll when cornering, and nosedive was impressively little too when braking. These cars might have rode like crap compared to the competition but they definitely handled better.
Excellent videos. everyone. Tip: 1.25 X playback speed
I like this music . Banging the hell outa those kettle drums !!!
those 60s tires werent very usefull with that hemi power . id love to see them do the exact same road test with some sticky modern radials on this charger 500
Now that would be a great test to see how far modern tyres have evolved.
Probably drop the 0-60 time to under 6 seconds and improve cornering speed drastically. Even with the stock suspension and brakes, simply improving the tires to modern radials and maybe an inch or two larger would improve handling and performance drastically.
That's my dream car right there!
Mine 2!
LOVE IT thank GOD I have a 69 RT and can drive like that. I pitch it sideways more!!!
It's not a full size car nor a sedan. The Charger was on an intermediate chassis and this car is a 2 door hard top. The Polara and Monaco were Dodge's full size cars.
3:12 Steve McQueen in Bullet comes to mind in that sound.
Any body who doesn't like a Charger Rt I just have no words!!!
Carmine Annunziat0 you would be lying if you said you didn't like that Charger.
Rather have a Coronet RT or Super Bee! Really it's hard to figure what was on Dodge And Plymoth's minds because they brought out so many cars that were so similar. The Charger 500 and the standard Charger. The Charger started life as Dodge's answer to the Thunderbird in 66 and 67 but the 68 and later were pure Muscle cars along with the Coronet 440 and RT. Plymouth was the same way with Satellite, GTX and Roadrunner.
At 3:55...
The nemesis of all gigantic cars with huge engines, the corner.
What would they think of today's 800 HP hemi , LOL ! ! !
Jim Jones i wonder what bud lindemman think of the 707hp Dodge charger hellcat or challenger hellcat or Dodge demon with 800hp these road test seemed more road test and beat the hell out of the cars then they do today rip budlideman 1925-1983.
@InfiniteMushroom It's not a Porsche with a laptop keyed to your vin. Just need the right tools that include more than a wrench and socket.
They might think old Hemis could make the same 800 Hp without turbos superchargers and nitros all new Hemis aré for pussys who cant build up horsepower without those adds
Old Hemis can build up horsepower with just a better heads and camshaft package the old way
@@Victoria3232-j7o cant make 800 Hp without turbos or superchargers
There Is nothing bud Lindemann would say about these modern unpowered engines
On 8- 18-2020 I was on the golden gate bridge and a blue hellcat was broken down in the slow lane, hood up guy looking at engine
The music reminds me of the old spider man cartoon
Handles much better than the 69 impala!
A new V6 Challenger will out perform that 1969 426 Hemi Charger in everyway, except for being cool.
With modern tires, these old Chargers could do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds or so, and hit 150 miles per hour.
Bud driving a hemi charger. I'm in
"Body roll wasn't excessive" (for a bass boat)
Impressed with that driver, with only a lap belt
In 1970 in high school I put a set of them red line tires on my Rambler and thought I WAS IT ! I even volunteered to drive in my schools Christmas parade , but they said no unless I would pull a small float with a goat on it contained in a chicken wire cage . I wanted to show off my car and as embarrassing as it was , I said yes . You see , the goat was the football teams mascote . Everybody laughed at me but I didn't care because I was riding on them redlines . Couple months later , the goat came up missing ! A note was found taped to the flagpole in the town square from a rival towns high School football team saying they had the goat and they were going to cream us at the Friday night football game . Well , I heard it was a hell of a fight out on the gridiron that night , but I didn't attend because I stayed home and enjoyed some of the most succulent Bar- B-Q I have ever tasted ! Serves them right for laughing at a poor farm boy . Oh , yea , the goat was never found . BURP !
Your good friend Vinny in good old Fla .
And the new Demon has 825 hp. Unbelievable.
Ray Williams I know right man.
840...
Ray Williams it may have 800hp but this one looks cooler but looks will only take you so far in life you also have to perform.
It still sounds meaner than anything today.
Amazing, this review came at the same time as BULLIT
Panther Pink was a color option on '69 dodges?
Rebel Country, High Banks! Lol, love it!
Simply awesome
We had a 70 Charger R/T with a Hemi when I was a kid. I remember a lot of the time it was hard starting , battery always going dead , and was in the shop a lot. But when you floored it look out , fastest car in the neighborhood ! Today , even a Toyota Camry could beat it !
Love picturing valet “moving it every 5 minutes just to hear it start”
Lindeman's team got 5.3 0-60 and 13.24 @ 107 out of a 68 Hurst Olds on regular polyglass tires. Would spank this cute little Mopar!!! 😜💪
And near twice the mileage
This mopar smoked the tires half way down the track. These hemis are good for 11's with a tune and tires.
@@jts9120 . Stop exaggerating. No stock car smokes the tires half way down the track. You don't go from 14s to 11s with tires and tune. Anybody involved in racing knows what it takes to take 2.5 seconds off a 1/4 mile time......alot! I hear excuses all the time why production hemis ran so mediocre on the track. These hemis can dip into the 13s with tune and tires. 11s...keep dreaming.
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide No exaggeration.
If I heard right, he said the Charger was in Race Red. But to me it looks like Panther Pink. Could be that the recording equipment of the time and the old reel is to blame too.
Panther Pink wasn't available until 1970. I suppose if this was a very late production '69 they might have been able to special order it as a 999 car with Panther Pink
The tires of that generation were so poor. Can you imagine if this car had modern day Radial tires how much better the performance would be. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
"A full sized sedan" with no rear seat leg room. Wow. Though I still love the car.
I do love. The satlight. Plymouth 1973
A brand spankin' new Hemi Charger to just wring right out at someone else's expense. It just couldn't get any better than that.
It must have been hell going from these muscle cars to the crap they had in the mid 70s to mid 80s. My father had a 67 GTO and told me how piss he got when gas got to 31 cent a gallon.
I can relate to that! Lol
As usual at the time that Hemi was in poor running tune. Once you tuned them, they all would run mid 13's at 105 or so..and 0-60 with decent tires in under 6 secs. Yes yes, the quarter mile times would be better because theyre spinning the tires, but without a MPH at the end of the quarter we dont know its state of tune...a HEMI even in a bad state of tune would spin those brutal tires, so thats not telling me much.
You are right and even a little high on the time.
My grandfather was know as Old Hemi or the Hinsdale Hemi Guy.
Guys would bring new Hemi cars or a few year's used
If they ran at the track the week before or a few weeks and ran a 13.60 for heavier ones and 13.40 to 13.00 in the lighter hemi cars and they would get it turned?? You can bet they would run 13.30 to 13.25 for the Charger and the Cuda and Challengers would run in the high 12s to 13.05.
He was so good he would guarantee 13 flat and 13. 15.
He taught me the little tricks on the carbs, manifold and timing. Bone stock.
His faster bone stock Hemi Cuda was 12.65
The Big ole Hemi Charger got into the 12.90 range.
He was great with them and it was a Tune that was not too bad.
a typical 'right of the delivery trailer' time.
ofc the sky wasn't even a limit with this engine..bonkers power was a tweak & tune away..
plus the right fuel made a big difference.
in madison wisc at that time, clark 103 was THE fuel.
@@soxfunny98 Ya, I am 59 so was around even though I was only a kid...my dad was a mechanic and it took a special guy who knew how to tune these cars to get their max performance..mainly it was timing...pulled the distributor...increased the slow curve..all in at about 1900 instead of 3500...new plugs and points, rejetting the carb, making sure that it was working right..etc..the 440 six pack was the worst...coordinating those three carbs was sometimes a nightmare..I know it was for the factory...read up on it...by the way in this video...the car runs a 0-60 in 6.9 but runs the quarter in 14.1 but doesnt mention the speed...0-60 in 6.9 should be a 15 sec quarter but even though the HEMI was NOT in tune it started making up for the lack of low end ignition timing as it was moving...I can hear it in the sound the motor's making...
Going by how they tested and timed this they spent half the time just spinning tires and losing time. Better driving (Mayb a bigger tire) would have cut lots of time off.
The later street hemi wasn't as finicky as these old timers like to tell you. The 440 sixpak and 6bbl wasn't as hard to tune either. They were usually pretty good from the factory.
It was uneducated and ignorant backyard mechanics that gave them that reputation.
The car here ran "slow" because they were straight boiling to tires from a stop. It's obvious as hell that the car runs low 13s.
Love that '68 Coronet grille...
Hey, if these cars were good enough back then, they should be good enough today. It’s funny how we keep doing retros of this era.
Owned a 69 Hemi Charger 4psd and a 66 Hemi Coronet A/T back in the day. Both were slugs compared to my 70 Challenger 440 6 pack. The extra 80lbs over the front suspension made for terrible handling. The Hemi HP was needed to launch the thing.
7 miles to the gallon from the factory! 😂
They were built for NASCAR, but were unstable. The Daytona resolved most of the problems and the Superbird was the epitome of B body winged high bank warriors. I would have loved to get a Hemi powered 500, 4 speed out on a road in New Mexico, Arizona, or Nevada in the spring or fall and stretch its legs with a 2.76 rear gear.
Did the word 'sedan' mean something different back then?
I am surprised that the handling answer was always available--NASCAR, wide tires were out there, and yet none of the tire companies bothered to make street versions of them?! When you look at the NASCAR versions of these cars, they looked so good with their race wheel/tire combos, but then they slap on these narrow pizza cutter wheels/tires combo onto all the period cars! The only exception from the era was the Mustang in 'Bullitt' but even that seemed to be the only Mustang with 'low' profile tires from that era.
Motorweek before motor week
I'm currently saving for one of these but brought myself a cheap runaround for now which is a vauxhall omega 2.6 V6 and it drinks fuel so 7 to the gallon is going to be an interesting daily lol and I'm in the UK ,🇬🇧😳
Exporting american muscle cars is now a federal offense. You have to move over here now.
@@moparone7962 I'd happily do that lol
0 to 60 in 6.9 seconds and a 1/4 mile of 14.1 means this thing is not getting off the line very well at all. But that's the way it was back then. Pizza cutter tires
I like the hid away headlights on the RT better.
Wonder of that 500 is still around.
O man I love these things