Narcissist. His character is not thinking about what’s best for her; he treats her based exclusively on his own needs throughout the film. Finally, she takes control in the final scene. Excellent film. 🎬❤️🎬
This scene right here ..the cinematography, the delivery of the dialogue, the strings building to climax, the way woody pauses , then smiles...gershwin - this scene man
Gamer 5000 it is right? Mainly because she looks her age. It’s not one of those situations where she looks older than she is. She looks and sounds 17. I get she went through puberty and girls mature faster but still. I guess it depends how they met. I seen the movie but wasn’t paying to much attention
@paul w I see what you mean. ua-cam.com/video/ZJKfmsuvGHg/v-deo.html Although IIRC, Allen turns his eyes to the camera. Chaplin doesn't. Anyway, nice reference, thanks.
The first and only time I hit rewind immediately after the final scene to watch the movie again. At the time I was a disaffected teen who thought everything sucked. Music sucked; movies sucked etc. etc. Then I saw Manhattan. Woody Allen showed me a world I never knew existed and for that I will forever be grateful.
adsdjkl097 I'd like to think she had an impact on him, that she changed his thinking a little, but I doubt it. It's more like he's surprised by her insight which makes him slightly happy I think, and he realized he can't control her and that chances are they won't end up together, because she's already seeing him for what he really is, which brings on sadness and heartbreak. There's also the irony of the whole reversal of their situations, and he's feeling the same level of heartbreak that she felt. The look is happiness, sadness, and love all rolled into one.
Looking at this purely from an acting perspective, this has to be Woody Allen's best performance in a scene. The level of nuance and feeling he is able to display, with total naturalism and authenticity (as well as having to do it in a extremely tight close-up) is wonderful.
I love Woody Allen. No one can blend deep, questioning search-for-meaning with comedy like he can. He was and still is a genius. This scene opens beautifully with an instrumental version of "But Not For Me" and he takes his time waiting while Mariel discovers him. You can't blame him for loving her. His character is complex and human. It's true, after she says "You've got to have a little faith..." the strings/violins from "Rhapsody in Blue" come in perfectly and we see those looks on his face that means nothing and everything. When her beautiful hair falls into her face and he pushes it back and it falls again. This is a classic Woody Allen scene and it's about 1% comedy. He says "Hi", she says "Hi" in that unbelievable way and he...COUGHS! Thank God for Woody Allen. He's a treasure. I wish I had his work ethic.
Supposedly, she says "...not everybody gets corrupted." But no matter how many times I play it back, I always hear: "...everybody gets corrupted."Maybe because that's the only way it makes sense in the broken world in which I live.
I actually prefer your interpretation, even though it's not what's onscreen...it speaks to the futility, and yet nobility, in a sense, of trying to preserve innocence. It's like trying to delay the onset of adulthood, or keep a certain period of time you had with a certain group of people alive, even when the moment has passed (we all know that person--I've also BEEN that person at one point or another). Funny how including or omitting one word can do that
I always heard this too, I actually ONLY found out yesterday that she says not everybody gets corrupted. I wonder if they pointedly made it unclear, or if back then they didn’t care as much about audio idk
I heard “Everybody Gets Corrupted,” in the theater, on the VHS TAPE, the DVD, On Demand, HBO, and every platform that I have seen it on, in excess of 100 times over many years. How surprising to hear that there is (or may be) a “not” in there. Like the song says, “Everything old is new again.” Either way, great film; a masterpiece.
The first half of the Woody Allen movies have much better story lines. Besides "Manhattan" there are "Annie Hall" and "Hannah and Her Sisters" for unbeatable artistry. I'm not sure that his last 5 can match any of those three.
I saw this either the first or second weekend it was out. When the title card came up with the director's credit at the end, the (large) audience spontaneously broke into applause--one of the few times I've ever experienced that at a movie.
I think ppl doubt his talent due to his personal issues. Woody hanging with a young MH was not usual then although it is now. I think he was trying to capture beauty in a very odd way. Sad. Also contrasting that with dying beauty of the Manhattan skyline.
A true piece of cinematic art, the score, the cinematography, all the master shots...Woody was at the beginning of his artistic peak with this film, and the decade to follow proved to be an amazing bounty in American filmmaking.
Yes, and the character knows he is being selfish, and has been selfish, that is the point of this ending. He even tells Tracey "I made a mistake", and the look he gives her tells us that he realizes he had a wonderful thing with this young woman, he selfishly threw it away, and that she is far more mature than he is. She has taught him a valuable lesson, despite being so much younger. Her wisdom is beyond her years.
@@Luna_and_Miles Yeah.. That's because only women do know what love is. It's like they can feel it, regardless of their age. Only they know the way out of the maze, eventually.
I first saw this in 1984 when I was 18, and I'll admit having a mix of reactions. Undeniably a masterpiece; as a love letter to New York, as a study in personal relationships, the level of visual and musical craft, and the dialogue oh god is sublime. On the other hand, I had a visceral reaction to the lumpy divorced guy in his 40s chasing a dreamy high school student. I had to put that aside, thinking that maybe I wasn't worldly enough to understand, or maybe it's a sophisticated New York thing. Maybe all the girls in Manhattan are 10 years more mature than the high schoolers I knew. Well now I'm older and have lived in New York for 27 years. And young me was right. "You really hurt me." "Well it was not on purpose." *barf*
If you think about it, she has the more mature lines of all the characters in the movie especially compared to her too old boyfriend. He sounds more like a high school student than she does and she is the one who graduated where he stills sounds like a junior.
A 42-year-old Isaac Davis trying to coerce a girl who is barely 18 now, about to start a new life with a 6-month acting gig in London. She's a wiser young woman -- this comes through when she looks at him and says, "You have to to have a little faith in people." I must admit that his coy smile at the end shows him to be genuinely fond of Tracy. The sweet improbability of this romance (two people who really care about each other) makes this movie special. A beautifully crafted final scene that segues into dramatic shots of Manhattan sunset.
I buy the first part of your comment. Not sure about the closing bit. Allen looks like he is trying to capture a child and keep her from the world. To move into the fiction of the film, I hope she never gets in touch with again.
@@pricejb1 I have to agree with you actually. I was looking at the two of them strictly as human beings who have a super friendship. From every appearance, one built on honesty. But the age difference is an uncomfortable fact. I applaud that she takes control of the situation. The actress (Miss Hemingway) was not too keen on having Woody kiss her deep tongue.
+John G. Izaguirre He wouldn´t want the Oscar, he don´t like it at all. When "Annie Hall" won the Oscar, he refused to take it, and he forbid the company to promote Annie Hall as an Oscar-winning movie.
I've always loved this scene. Allen is fantastic but Hemingway owns the scene. Knowing what we know, it's interesting watching how Allen tries to manipulate Hemingway. He's such a creep. But great performance.
You've got it wrong. He isn't trying to manipulate her - he sees that she will change if she goes away. And he knows that "thing she has" will be lost.
@@KasimirStanley he knows he has to let her go (and the part of himself that she brought out in him). thats the point of the scene. as creepy as he was for getting involved w her in the first place, he's not actually trying to force her to do anything, he just desperately wants her to stay, but knows she can't. thats what the broken smile at the end is all about
"You have to have a little faith in people." When people put their faith in other people, they should be prepared for the disappointment that will come. People are flawed, sometimes very selfish, and broken. All of us - to one degree or another. God is the only one a person can depend on - not for outcomes or results but rather grace and peace in one's heart no matter what happens in this life.
@@Sally150 she said he was begging her to go to Paris with him and trying to seduce her. Dylan his daughter said he told her as he molested her he was going to take her to Paris. he says it to all his victims
@@Sally150 That is factually untrue. She said that she had a great time working with him and that he has never been rude or disrespectful towards her. Why tell lies?
I recall seeing this on first run. I think it was the first movie I paid $5 to see. And after Annie Hall, it seemed so sophisticated in Bloomington Indiana.I think it was just before I saw Steve Martin live. "$4 to get in here? " No- FIVE!.Am I getting old? Oh no, not me.....
yes, clark kent is right -- it's supposed to be a gloss on city lights, comparing the trivialities of the contemporary american guy's concerns to chaplin's profound comment on vision and blindness. (I don't get how that's supposed to come across, personally)
Some folk still don't seem to get this. So here it is: The young girl (here) loved the guy. But he left this girl for a woman of his own age. When that other relationship falls apart, he realises that in the girl he had 'true' love; her feelings were real, authentic, genuine, unspoiled. And he had (foolishly) pushed her away. Realising what he has lost, he goes after her... which is this scene here. The last scene from the film. But now comes the deeper realisation: she is going away, and she *is* going to change. Just like everyone else does. She will go away for six months, and by the time she comes back, she'll be "just like everyone else". Why? Because EVERYBODY DOES get corrupted. That is the point of this scene. And that is why Allen has that expression at the end. It's over. He's lost her. She, too, will get corrupted. Because we all do. It is the tragic nature of us all. 🙂
What is supposed to be the way forward? Keep dating high schoolers? Totally creepy. We need a little bit of corruption to defend ourselves and not get played with
Because he broke her young fragile heart and the first cut is the deepest i.m.o...The wise ,cultured elder intellect ..Allens character , just about grasps that at the end..one ponders as to whether its all just a game for him? ..to quote another song.."You should know the score by now..youre a native New Yorker.."
Music background when video begins up to the point where he begins to talk to her: "But Not For Me." I love Frank Sinatra's version from his Reprise Records collection
I have to be honest: when I saw this movie for the first time I found it great and fresh like other Allen's films. Now I'm almost 26 and all can I say is wtf?! This girl was 17 here and he 44! This relationship wasn't even legal and everybody normalized it. It's weird/gross and the worst thing is people still love this movie. I mean, this man showed us signals about how he really was and the industry didn't give a shit.
The film's about so much more than the love affair of a barely middle aged man at only 42 and a 17 year old girl. If Woody had only known that such things would be so overly scrutinized and dissected over 40 years later I'm sure he would have made her character 18. Does that make you feel better? And of course the relationship is legal. The minimum age is 16 unless the older partner is a teacher or superior.
@@davebowman8729 It might be technically legal, but it's still rightly viewed as creepy. What the fuck does a man in his 40s have in common with a 16, or 17-year-old?
Your comment is perfect. Ms. Hemingway has been interviewed about this movie. On set, everyone laughed when Muriel ran from Allen, after she had to kiss him. After production he asked her parents if he could take her to Paris, alone.
it's funny how much i love this movie. for me, this and blue jasmine are the two ultimate woody allen masterpieces. that's some odd choices, cause the fans always love annie hall. but for me, only the graduate was able to mix comedy and drama in such a perfect way as manhattan and blue jasmine did.
Have you seen Hannah and Her Sisters and Crimes and Misdemeanors? Just interested to hear your thoughts on those and how they blended comedy and drama.
Best movie endings nearly always have that anbiguity..Casablanca etc..maybe because happy.endings are never actual endings and if its not all right in the end just means its not the end..(if you follow that!)
Everybody😉 Gershwins were NY. I get chills from the beginning scenes over "Rhapsody in Blue". The subway going past the Stadium. Absolutely perfect photography.
The movie is great, I agree. A visual and intellectual masterpiece. But this scene..I find it so utterly unacceptable. He turns back to her because the other option is gone. He wants her back because of pure narcissism. He ignores the fact that she made an option and thinks only about his own feelings. Imagine the future....He would dump her as soon as he meets another challenge, just the way he did the first time.
167k views for one of the greatest movie endings ever..? Could the new generation be building a wall of indifference to materpieces like this..?I know everything is of its time but i find that very sad..
hello all, it's valentine's day, and i'm dating someone who is in Europe, and guess what, same age difference between me and her but we're both 9 years older than the two characters here... no one last left a message here since before corona virus. wow. it makes me cry, the dynamic face to face meeting without a mask. god, i'm just sad about that. but i would say this: you're all pointing to Woody's smile at the end... i agree. lights up the universe
There's a difference between molesting a 7-year-old child and dating a 17-year-old girl. Pedophiles seek out single mothers. And at the end of the film, the character played by Woody Allen doesn't stand out very well. How can you see glorification in that?
Even if it’s artistic I kind of hate the way older men have always taken advantage on the vulnerability of real young women. Honestly this scene is written like a play, I don’t think woody Allen rather used these ideas for his art
Watched this film last night, I'd seen it before a long time ago, but last night I found it troubling to watch. It was a pretty cynical film in a way, and I found myself telling Tracy to say no, and go, all through this scene, but I think we were supposed to. At one level it's a good film, but at another level it's uncomfortable, and not just because of what is now known about Woody Allen. I think Allen intentionally cast himself as an antihero in this film, but because he appears to be almost playing himself that's hard to recognise, but I don't know, perhaps when I was younger I didn't recognise the antihero, and I do now.
I know it's not 'necessary', and they certainly didn't need any more dialogue, but I always find myself wishing they showed her walking out, into the cab, perhaps raising a hand in a goodbye, him doing the same, still with that ambiguous smile on his face...has the pupil become the teacher? And then as the cab drives off, cut to the scenes of the skyline, etc. Something like that, anyway. The way it just cuts right in the middle of their conversation always feels awkward to me
Narcissist. His character is not thinking about what’s best for her; he treats her based exclusively on his own needs throughout the film. Finally, she takes control in the final scene. Excellent film. 🎬❤️🎬
"I would prefer you not go." Such brutal vicious toxic masculinity.
You sound bitter and lonely
The Gershwin violin after "you have to have a little faith in people.." was perfect timing.
You've got to be kidding. No plot. No point.
This scene right here ..the cinematography, the delivery of the dialogue, the strings building to climax, the way woody pauses , then smiles...gershwin - this scene man
I agree. Among the best scenes in all of cinema.
It's my New York. Not the way it is now.
Might be a little more 'romantic,' perhaps, if it weren't a 44-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl.
Gamer 5000 it is right? Mainly because she looks her age. It’s not one of those situations where she looks older than she is. She looks and sounds 17. I get she went through puberty and girls mature faster but still. I guess it depends how they met. I seen the movie but wasn’t paying to much attention
@paul w I see what you mean.
ua-cam.com/video/ZJKfmsuvGHg/v-deo.html
Although IIRC, Allen turns his eyes to the camera. Chaplin doesn't. Anyway, nice reference, thanks.
The first and only time I hit rewind immediately after the final scene to watch the movie again. At the time I was a disaffected teen who thought everything sucked. Music sucked; movies sucked etc. etc. Then I saw Manhattan. Woody Allen showed me a world I never knew existed and for that I will forever be grateful.
Gershwin soundtrack in this film is just wonderful. Elevates the whole aura of the film to a new level. It genuinely makes the film for me.
His slow reaction to "You have to have a little faith in people" is just beautiful.
Jeff Leach Music What do you think his look means?
adsdjkl097 I'd like to think she had an impact on him, that she changed his thinking a little, but I doubt it. It's more like he's surprised by her insight which makes him slightly happy I think, and he realized he can't control her and that chances are they won't end up together, because she's already seeing him for what he really is, which brings on sadness and heartbreak. There's also the irony of the whole reversal of their situations, and he's feeling the same level of heartbreak that she felt. The look is happiness, sadness, and love all rolled into one.
I thougt the same but I discussed it with some friends and they disagreed.
Anyway, thanks for answering.
Jeff Leach Music omg so true! I havent seen it that way!
the point if the film, I guess.
Looking at this purely from an acting perspective, this has to be Woody Allen's best performance in a scene. The level of nuance and feeling he is able to display, with total naturalism and authenticity (as well as having to do it in a extremely tight close-up) is wonderful.
It's a pedophile playing himself!!!
Masterpiece in every sense of the word. Gives me goosebumps every single time.
Make the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I love Woody Allen. No one can blend deep, questioning search-for-meaning with comedy like he can. He was and still is a genius. This scene opens beautifully with an instrumental version of "But Not For Me" and he takes his time waiting while Mariel discovers him. You can't blame him for loving her. His character is complex and human. It's true, after she says "You've got to have a little faith..." the strings/violins from "Rhapsody in Blue" come in perfectly and we see those looks on his face that means nothing and everything. When her beautiful hair falls into her face and he pushes it back and it falls again. This is a classic Woody Allen scene and it's about 1% comedy. He says "Hi", she says "Hi" in that unbelievable way and he...COUGHS! Thank God for Woody Allen. He's a treasure. I wish I had his work ethic.
He is a genius, his personal life ruins everything but beyond that, I think Manhattan and Annie Hall are the perfect movies.
this is the most perfect end to an iconic movie
Not everybody gets corrupted... One of the most underrated lines of all cinema history.
Supposedly, she says "...not everybody gets corrupted."
But no matter how many times I play it back, I always hear: "...everybody gets corrupted."Maybe because that's the only way it makes sense in the broken world in which I live.
I heard it too !
I actually prefer your interpretation, even though it's not what's onscreen...it speaks to the futility, and yet nobility, in a sense, of trying to preserve innocence. It's like trying to delay the onset of adulthood, or keep a certain period of time you had with a certain group of people alive, even when the moment has passed (we all know that person--I've also BEEN that person at one point or another). Funny how including or omitting one word can do that
I always heard this too, I actually ONLY found out yesterday that she says not everybody gets corrupted. I wonder if they pointedly made it unclear, or if back then they didn’t care as much about audio idk
I heard “Everybody Gets Corrupted,” in the theater, on the VHS TAPE, the DVD, On Demand, HBO, and every platform that I have seen it on, in excess of 100 times over many years. How surprising to hear that there is (or may be) a “not” in there. Like the song says, “Everything old is new again.” Either way, great film; a masterpiece.
Masterpiece!
Thanks for such beauty and genius, Mr. Allen!
You're the best! ❤
Woody Allen is a great story teller. I always find the end of his films very rewarding
The first half of the Woody Allen movies have much better story lines. Besides "Manhattan" there are "Annie Hall" and "Hannah and Her Sisters" for unbeatable artistry. I'm not sure that his last 5 can match any of those three.
Noe Berengena What about Crimes and Misdemeanors?
I saw this either the first or second weekend it was out. When the title card came up with the director's credit at the end, the (large) audience spontaneously broke into applause--one of the few times I've ever experienced that at a movie.
*****
True. The other time, they were all unnecessarily speaking French.
+Entrée Plat et Dessert What are you trying to prove?
Hopefully in time, people will have a little faith in Woody Allen. He's a great artist, trust me.
Literally nobody doubts that.
I think ppl doubt his talent due to his personal issues. Woody hanging with a young MH was not usual then although it is now. I think he was trying to capture beauty in a very odd way. Sad. Also contrasting that with dying beauty of the Manhattan skyline.
Profound..... that last expression... speaks so much... masterpiece
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such beautiful acting and musical backdrop...
The youngest character said the wisest thing in the movie. What a great way to end the movie!
Er... no. It is HIS expression afterwards that says the wisest thing in the move.
Because he knows that everyone DOES get corrupted.
A masterpiece. One of perhaps even Allen's greatest film.
Best ending of all his films.
She's adorable.
I never understood how he writes himself as a guy that gets these beautiful women and he's such a little worm of a man.
A true piece of cinematic art, the score, the cinematography, all the master shots...Woody was at the beginning of his artistic peak with this film, and the decade to follow proved to be an amazing bounty in American filmmaking.
His run from Annie Hall to Crimes and Misdemeanors is truly special.
Old man trying hard to sabotage a 17 yr old's future
Yes, and the character knows he is being selfish, and has been selfish, that is the point of this ending. He even tells Tracey "I made a mistake", and the look he gives her tells us that he realizes he had a wonderful thing with this young woman, he selfishly threw it away, and that she is far more mature than he is. She has taught him a valuable lesson, despite being so much younger. Her wisdom is beyond her years.
@@Luna_and_Miles Yeah.. That's because only women do know what love is. It's like they can feel it, regardless of their age.
Only they know the way out of the maze, eventually.
Her future is to bear children.
@@Luna_and_Miles You got this out the movie? Self indulgent nonsense.
Isaac is insufferable and I'm certainly not defending him, but she was technically eighteen in that scene.
This is such a touching movie - and the ending is absolutely beautiful
I first saw this in 1984 when I was 18, and I'll admit having a mix of reactions. Undeniably a masterpiece; as a love letter to New York, as a study in personal relationships, the level of visual and musical craft, and the dialogue oh god is sublime. On the other hand, I had a visceral reaction to the lumpy divorced guy in his 40s chasing a dreamy high school student. I had to put that aside, thinking that maybe I wasn't worldly enough to understand, or maybe it's a sophisticated New York thing. Maybe all the girls in Manhattan are 10 years more mature than the high schoolers I knew. Well now I'm older and have lived in New York for 27 years. And young me was right.
"You really hurt me."
"Well it was not on purpose."
*barf*
If you think about it, she has the more mature lines of all the characters in the movie especially compared to her too old boyfriend. He sounds more like a high school student than she does and she is the one who graduated where he stills sounds like a junior.
One of the most beautiful ending movie
I just saw it right now!!!! I didn't think of it as master piece until the very end.
I love this scene. It's one of the greatest movies, IMO.
A 42-year-old Isaac Davis trying to coerce a girl who is barely 18 now, about to start a new life with a 6-month acting gig in London. She's a wiser young woman -- this comes through when she looks at him and says, "You have to to have a little faith in people." I must admit that his coy smile at the end shows him to be genuinely fond of Tracy. The sweet improbability of this romance (two people who really care about each other) makes this movie special. A beautifully crafted final scene that segues into dramatic shots of Manhattan sunset.
I buy the first part of your comment. Not sure about the closing bit. Allen looks like he is trying to capture a child and keep her from the world. To move into the fiction of the film, I hope she never gets in touch with again.
@@pricejb1 I have to agree with you actually. I was looking at the two of them strictly as human beings who have a super friendship. From every appearance, one built on honesty. But the age difference is an uncomfortable fact. I applaud that she takes control of the situation. The actress (Miss Hemingway) was not too keen on having Woody kiss her deep tongue.
He deserved the Oscar for best actor in this movie. And the screenplay? My god what a brilliant masterpiece :)
+John G. Izaguirre He wouldn´t want the Oscar, he don´t like it at all. When "Annie Hall" won the Oscar, he refused to take it, and he forbid the company to promote Annie Hall as an Oscar-winning movie.
HR1 Much like Glenda Jackson, Woody never cared much for awards anyway.
'SIX MONTHS! You may find someone you could relate to better than my middle age self.'
I've always loved this scene. Allen is fantastic but Hemingway owns the scene. Knowing what we know, it's interesting watching how Allen tries to manipulate Hemingway. He's such a creep. But great performance.
You've got it wrong.
He isn't trying to manipulate her - he sees that she will change if she goes away. And he knows that "thing she has" will be lost.
@@MegaEmmaJay so he is trying to get her to stay. That is manipulation.
@@KasimirStanley he knows he has to let her go (and the part of himself that she brought out in him). thats the point of the scene. as creepy as he was for getting involved w her in the first place, he's not actually trying to force her to do anything, he just desperately wants her to stay, but knows she can't. thats what the broken smile at the end is all about
"You have to have a little faith in people."
When people put their faith in other people, they should be prepared for the disappointment that will come. People are flawed, sometimes very selfish, and broken. All of us - to one degree or another. God is the only one a person can depend on - not for outcomes or results but rather grace and peace in one's heart no matter what happens in this life.
No, not even him.
"Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments.."
Fun drinking game: Read the comments and take a shot every time someone uses the word creep or creepy
Or even better read the comments and take a shot everytime a man admires this inaccurate portrayal of a woman
Great idea. Hemingway called him a creep. I imagine his breath is. bad.
What a creepy game.
@@Sally150 she said he was begging her to go to Paris with him and trying to seduce her. Dylan his daughter said he told her as he molested her he was going to take her to Paris. he says it to all his victims
@@Sally150 That is factually untrue. She said that she had a great time working with him and that he has never been rude or disrespectful towards her. Why tell lies?
Don't fall for that Tracy! He'll be trying to find another lover before your plane even lands in London!
Clown
I recall seeing this on first run. I think it was the first movie I paid $5 to see. And after Annie Hall, it seemed so sophisticated in Bloomington Indiana.I think it was just before I saw Steve Martin live. "$4 to get in here? " No- FIVE!.Am I getting old? Oh no, not me.....
I love this scene. :'(
Why?
Great opening to the film, great ending- influenced by City Lights
They had really fucking great conditioner back in the early 80s.
Woody Allen’s hair?
Man, her hair does look fucking great. Even when it falls, it shimmers
1979.
Happy birthday Woody.
She be too old for him in 6 months 🥴
Lol.
I visit this scene everytime I feel like crying :,)
Why
Terrific acting 👏 ❤ 😊
If tracy returned after of these six months sadly she wouldn' t be the same person
only woody can creep like this and it look like art!
busywl69 it only looks like art if you're also a creep
I get creep vibes..
Then and now....turns out Miss Hemingway felt the same.
I kept listening "Rhapsody in blue" after that scene... I really miss the ladies I used to know...
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One of films great scenes.
This film often reminded me of Chaplin's City Lights, including this ending
Sam Hertzog Woody Allen did say this film ending was based on City Light
yes, clark kent is right -- it's supposed to be a gloss on city lights, comparing the trivialities of the contemporary american guy's concerns to chaplin's profound comment on vision and blindness. (I don't get how that's supposed to come across, personally)
@@mirandac8712 That's very cool, I didn't know!
Some folk still don't seem to get this. So here it is:
The young girl (here) loved the guy. But he left this girl for a woman of his own age.
When that other relationship falls apart, he realises that in the girl he had 'true' love; her feelings were real, authentic, genuine, unspoiled. And he had (foolishly) pushed her away.
Realising what he has lost, he goes after her... which is this scene here. The last scene from the film.
But now comes the deeper realisation: she is going away, and she *is* going to change. Just like everyone else does. She will go away for six months, and by the time she comes back, she'll be "just like everyone else". Why? Because EVERYBODY DOES get corrupted. That is the point of this scene. And that is why Allen has that expression at the end. It's over. He's lost her. She, too, will get corrupted. Because we all do. It is the tragic nature of us all.
🙂
What is supposed to be the way forward? Keep dating high schoolers? Totally creepy. We need a little bit of corruption to defend ourselves and not get played with
I've watched this movie 100 times she never says she loves him👂
Because he broke her young fragile heart and the first cut is the deepest i.m.o...The wise ,cultured elder intellect ..Allens character , just about grasps that at the end..one ponders as to whether its all just a game for him? ..to quote another song.."You should know the score by now..youre a native New Yorker.."
This shows Woody Allen's awe and wonder for very selfish men.
Music background when video begins up to the point where he begins to talk to her: "But Not For Me." I love Frank Sinatra's version from his Reprise Records collection
A lot of people would comment on the inappropriateness of the age difference, and especially Muriel's age. Still, I adore Woody Allen, and his movies.
Me too and I agree with you
The old Adage women want men to change and men want women to stay the same and never change
That thing he likes about her is that she was just a child and admits to still being childish,
To have made such a beautiful film he must be a beautiful man. Not everybody gets corrupted. You have to have a little faith.
Amen
Wild. Real. Uncomfortable. Beautiful.
Love this movie. Woody Allen knew how to make a fucking movie back then
most powerful ending in history...
I have to be honest: when I saw this movie for the first time I found it great and fresh like other Allen's films. Now I'm almost 26 and all can I say is wtf?! This girl was 17 here and he 44! This relationship wasn't even legal and everybody normalized it. It's weird/gross and the worst thing is people still love this movie. I mean, this man showed us signals about how he really was and the industry didn't give a shit.
The film's about so much more than the love affair of a barely middle aged man at only 42 and a 17 year old girl. If Woody had only known that such things would be so overly scrutinized and dissected over 40 years later I'm sure he would have made her character 18. Does that make you feel better?
And of course the relationship is legal. The minimum age is 16 unless the older partner is a teacher or superior.
You dind't get the movie...
@@davebowman8729 It might be technically legal, but it's still rightly viewed as creepy. What the fuck does a man in his 40s have in common with a 16, or 17-year-old?
Your comment is perfect. Ms. Hemingway has been interviewed about this movie. On set, everyone laughed when Muriel ran from Allen, after she had to kiss him. After production he asked her parents if he could take her to Paris, alone.
@@ally11488 Innocence and the love of innocence.
it's funny how much i love this movie. for me, this and blue jasmine are the two ultimate woody allen masterpieces. that's some odd choices, cause the fans always love annie hall. but for me, only the graduate was able to mix comedy and drama in such a perfect way as manhattan and blue jasmine did.
Have you seen Hannah and Her Sisters and Crimes and Misdemeanors? Just interested to hear your thoughts on those and how they blended comedy and drama.
Is this a happy ending? I think that this movie and Dustin Hoffman's "The Graduate" are movies that the ending is happy/sad/both....
both are sad
It's a poignant, and sweet ending, I think. Also ironic.
Same kind of spirit of the ending of "Lost in Translation"
Best movie endings nearly always have that anbiguity..Casablanca etc..maybe because happy.endings are never actual endings and if its not all right in the end just means its not the end..(if you follow that!)
Who recognize the song "but not for me"?
Everybody😉 Gershwins were NY. I get chills from the beginning scenes over "Rhapsody in Blue". The subway going past the Stadium. Absolutely perfect photography.
The question is where can I find this specific version of the song?
@Oh, well hello there I already found it! It's Michael Tilson Thomas in a part called Girl Crazy/Overture
El minuto 5:00 es una obra maestra.
The movie is great, I agree. A visual and intellectual masterpiece. But this scene..I find it so utterly unacceptable. He turns back to her because the other option is gone. He wants her back because of pure narcissism. He ignores the fact that she made an option and thinks only about his own feelings. Imagine the future....He would dump her as soon as he meets another challenge, just the way he did the first time.
The heart wants what the heart wants.
Ironically she is the most rational, levellheaded character in the movie.
Beautiful movie. Woody should be in jail getting his ass beaten and buggered, but a beautiful movie none the less.
167k views for one of the greatest movie endings ever..? Could the new generation be building a wall of indifference to materpieces like this..?I know everything is of its time but i find that very sad..
Rhapsody in Blue
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This hasn’t aged well.
Woody's inability to act versus Merill's maturing into an adult who accepts change.
Mariel not Merill.
she looks like billy corgan or gerard way
One of the best final
Scenes in cinema history. Just beautiful! What a movie!
hello all, it's valentine's day, and i'm dating someone who is in Europe, and guess what, same age difference between me and her but we're both 9 years older than the two characters here... no one last left a message here since before corona virus. wow. it makes me cry, the dynamic face to face meeting without a mask. god, i'm just sad about that. but i would say this: you're all pointing to Woody's smile at the end... i agree. lights up the universe
There's a difference between molesting a 7-year-old child and dating a 17-year-old girl. Pedophiles seek out single mothers. And at the end of the film, the character played by Woody Allen doesn't stand out very well. How can you see glorification in that?
I wish this version of But not for me was available somewhere, the one from the soundtrack by Zubin Mehta is not the same :(
Still looking for it!
Yes, came here from listening to the soundtrack.
Mariel.is so sweet❤
I even used to love this movie...
woody's best film
Even if it’s artistic I kind of hate the way older men have always taken advantage on the vulnerability of real young women. Honestly this scene is written like a play, I don’t think woody Allen rather used these ideas for his art
“don’t be so mature” lmao
Six years ago when i first watched this film, i didnt find that Woody Allen hand groping over her ear disgusting. Now it is disgusting. Gross
Lol
I agree.
Lol, I agree
Among Woody's most brilliant scenes. He gives her all the power. Who said he was sexist? His masterpiece.
Love the shot of the back of his head. ...and the pacing...this scene could have been half as long.
Watched this film last night, I'd seen it before a long time ago, but last night I found it troubling to watch. It was a pretty cynical film in a way, and I found myself telling Tracy to say no, and go, all through this scene, but I think we were supposed to. At one level it's a good film, but at another level it's uncomfortable, and not just because of what is now known about Woody Allen. I think Allen intentionally cast himself as an antihero in this film, but because he appears to be almost playing himself that's hard to recognise, but I don't know, perhaps when I was younger I didn't recognise the antihero, and I do now.
Filme belíssimo ! final comovente !
Fantastic scene but he has an arrogant attitude. He does not even want to apologize with a clear voice.
5:08 she is getting ready to "Fly the Friendly Skies."
Esse filme é muito lindo :)
His doctor told him it could prove fatal. He said to his doctor, if she dies she dies🤦♂️
Greatness.
It’s a very strange movie. The premise is kinda sick
Not kinda
"Everyone gets corrupted," she says. Go Dalton Tigers!
This is Hemingway at her absolute best, so healthy and natural, drop-dead gorgeous because she doesn't even know what that means.
Your comment is really creepy
She should have started in more movies.
thank you, Thomas.
totally agreed
I know it's not 'necessary', and they certainly didn't need any more dialogue, but I always find myself wishing they showed her walking out, into the cab, perhaps raising a hand in a goodbye, him doing the same, still with that ambiguous smile on his face...has the pupil become the teacher? And then as the cab drives off, cut to the scenes of the skyline, etc. Something like that, anyway. The way it just cuts right in the middle of their conversation always feels awkward to me