Except that he doesn't know what he's talking about. First of all the ideal line (except for the entering point) is different from car to car. So what this guy considers an "apex" or an "exist" isn't always right. He drives like a typical sim racing gamer.
dipped off-track at Laguna Seca going uphill towards the bridge, you tried to stroll to the left an excuse it for a defensive block which is you mimiking the previous error. Track Width can be a downside but depending on Track Condition some corners aren't advised to go to far out because of curbs or bumps that unsettle the entry
“If you no longer go for a gap which exists you are no longer a racing driver” - Ayrton Senna >proceeds to crash into a cars back who's already hitting the apex
Just got into sim racing a few years back,I'm still trying to stop like I'm playing need for speed and start braking early and slamming down the throttle.
I would honestly consider the block going up the hill at Laguna a mistake, yes defending your position is a good idea, but the mistake was in how late the defensive position was taken, if the guy behind you was brave enough to pass on that corner, that would've ended in contact for sure.
Great video, really easy to follow but you can't really partake in the first one because it isn't clear yet what you'll be counting and not counting as a mistake. Later ones are great tho, since the first one makes it easy to understand what counts as a mistake!
@@viperconcept Nothing to feel sorry about, an example is sometimes the best way to create a pattern. Also, it is clear and consistent through the whole video.
I gotta argue that defending at T6-7 at Laguna was a mistake. That corner you could stay wide, not hit your apex, and still be faster than the guy who was about to pass at that speed. He would've had to slow down further to make it through the corner without making contact, so you for sure would've gone through the corner faster. With his line there is literally no way for him to get more speed through the dip at T6. If there was a third person behind you two cars, he likely would've been able to pass up the hill if he took the correct racing line. Going through T6 that way is just always slow.
On the last one I didn't notice that you were at the center of the track because you were too far away from the camera car already lol 😂, but other then that I found everything else you said, failed trail braking, missing the apex, brake too hard and brake too early
Nice lesson. I don't play sim games but i do sometimes play simcade game. These help a lot in there. Also, pls do a video of retro on driver san fransisco.
Imo the "slow in fast out" rule has quite some limitations, i mean by that rule if i unter a corner as slow as possible i should get shot out at crazy speed, so yeah, there is quite a big point where instead of making you faster it slows you down, it would nice to see a vid on this argument and other "rules" and know when to apply one or the other
It doesn't mean enter slow to exit fast, that would be a ridiclous assumption. What the rule implies is that you should focus on your exit speed rather than your entry speed (Go slower in, try going faster out). As for why it is the golden rule, generally exit speed is the greatest benefactor to fast lap times since there tends to be more straights in circuit racing and it is a lot easier to nail an exit compared to an entry. And also yes situations where entering faster is better do exist and do happen often depending on the circumstances, a great example of which is touge racing where in certain consecutive corners it is usually slightly faster to corner aggressively ,albeit being more dangerous.
slow in fast out is just a small catch phrase to keep in mind what it really means is it's better for you to enter a corner at confortable speed to get the best trajectory to exit the corner faster than just divebombing every corner but struggling to get any good acceleration at the end
It's a lot easier to find the limit if you enter obviously too slowly and then add 10% every few laps as you get comfortable with a track, try to go in as fast as possible from lap 1 and you'll pretty much never figure out why everyone pulls two tenths on you through a specific corner.
During reaching the corner you need sufficient control on your car to hit perfect apex so a comfortably slow speed and after you have done the apex you can push the acceleration without much worrying and even compensate sometimes if you braked too early. But If you enter fast, there are more chances you will lose the perfect corner and you cant compensate the slow out from corner.
I really like the idea of the format and the general video, but i can see things that could be improved imo: First of all the camera. The following car cam works great for teaching defensive moves and attacks, but i feel like for a driving mistakes video a third person camera would be best. Maybe also looking at the onboards from the mistakes, cause its very easy to missjudge the width of the car and end up missing the apex or not using all the space, especially in GT cars, not so much in Formula cars as you sit more in the middle opposed to on one side. Also something that would be nice i think (But i am unsure how this can be best achieved) is making clear at the beginning what you will count as a mistake, cause going into the first one i wasnt sure what exactly you would count as a mistake (For example being a bit too wide for most of the lefthander before the first big mistake) Additionally to that i saw a few things that can certainly also be classified as mistakes, depending on how "detailed" you want to get, but i was surprised that the running wide of the lead car at Laguna Seca on the exit of T5 wasnt flagged as a mistake, which was what led to the trailing car to catch up and force the leading car to defend. Also in Turn 6 i guess you could say car in front went in to deep again, as it ended up to wide for the trajectory and picked up the throttle very late, basically inviting a cutback (Even if i wouldnt recommend sending it up the inside on the corkscrew) I really like the concept and am looking forward to more of this type of video, as there is always something to learn. Really enjoyed it ^^
It's a bit hard to follow exactly what you do when we see the camera of another car who doesn't stay always near you. Anyway, awesome video, I feel like I learned a lot!
it's good to learn see mistakes that way, if you can see mistakes of your opponent in front you can use them. You can also learn sometimes thing from your opponent :)
@@pancake5830 ofc seeing your own mistakes is most natural step to improve, first and more important :) seeing mistakes and techniques of your opponents is second step I think - you can learn how they are racing, where are slower than you (where is easiest way to gain position) and more important where they are faster - you can learn from them so summary this video should be considered like a more advanced training when you know what are you doing and it's time to look around, it's important too especially in head to head racing, sometimes finding a gap to overtake may be more important than making perfect time - you can't be fast if you can't overtake slowet opponent ;)
I like the topic, would love to see more videos like this! However I don't quite understand why you chose to show mistakes from a perspective of a following car. It was quite confusing for me. 1) It's too far and it's harder to judge the speed, braking points and behaviour of the car. 2) The behaviour of the "camera car" distracted me from fully focusing on the main car. 3) I didn't know what the "camera car" is supposed to do - at first I though you are driving this car and the car in front is your student, so I though the camera car is supposed to just follow the main car at a relatively slow speed. But no, it turns out you were actually racing (or sort of). If these videos are supposed to teach us how to spot our own mistakes, then I'd vastly prefer a chase cam. But if the goal is to teach how to "read" your opponent (in order to find the best opportunities to overtake) then I'd like you clarify that the following car is doing its best and you both are driving at full pace - I don't see a lot of sense spotting mistakes on a kind of "artificial" lap where you change your pace so that the cars are close to each other.
The last clip from acc i do exactly that hitting the throttle to early ( those its a mistake im making less and less) and i have an allergic reaction to the apexs
I missed one mistake in 4th video and one mistake in 5th video. I watch too many races and people playing also i play too much. Also i make too much mistakes and i know about it.
@@viperconcept Are you considering recording a sort of Lets Play for it? That would be super cool to see you tackling the license tests and things like that, but I do understand if you wouldn't since it's pretty time consuming to record and edit everything lol
You just keep giving the best videos to new simracers
For intermediates too!
Except that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
First of all the ideal line (except for the entering point) is different from car to car.
So what this guy considers an "apex" or an "exist" isn't always right. He drives like a typical sim racing gamer.
You can find documentaries on youtube with real drivers explaining what an "ideal line" is in racing.
These lessons so useful as always master!
*bows*
dipped off-track at Laguna Seca going uphill towards the bridge, you tried to stroll to the left an excuse it for a defensive block which is you mimiking the previous error. Track Width can be a downside but depending on Track Condition some corners aren't advised to go to far out because of curbs or bumps that unsettle the entry
“If you no longer go for a gap which exists you are no longer a racing driver” - Ayrton Senna
>proceeds to crash into a cars back who's already hitting the apex
Just got into sim racing a few years back,I'm still trying to stop like I'm playing need for speed and start braking early and slamming down the throttle.
More of these lesson style videos, please.
Exit speed is key, my most common mistake. Great video bud 👍
I would honestly consider the block going up the hill at Laguna a mistake, yes defending your position is a good idea, but the mistake was in how late the defensive position was taken, if the guy behind you was brave enough to pass on that corner, that would've ended in contact for sure.
Great video, really easy to follow but you can't really partake in the first one because it isn't clear yet what you'll be counting and not counting as a mistake. Later ones are great tho, since the first one makes it easy to understand what counts as a mistake!
Sorry about that!
@@viperconcept Nothing to feel sorry about, an example is sometimes the best way to create a pattern. Also, it is clear and consistent through the whole video.
I gotta argue that defending at T6-7 at Laguna was a mistake. That corner you could stay wide, not hit your apex, and still be faster than the guy who was about to pass at that speed. He would've had to slow down further to make it through the corner without making contact, so you for sure would've gone through the corner faster. With his line there is literally no way for him to get more speed through the dip at T6. If there was a third person behind you two cars, he likely would've been able to pass up the hill if he took the correct racing line. Going through T6 that way is just always slow.
Super Helpful for the newest sim racers! Recognizing the mistakes when you race helps you to become a better driver!! Keep up the good work!
On the last one I didn't notice that you were at the center of the track because you were too far away from the camera car already lol 😂, but other then that I found everything else you said, failed trail braking, missing the apex, brake too hard and brake too early
Great advice!
I love those detailed videos. Not just talkin, also doing.
Following since 10K subs or smth, happy to see you rise more and more ❤️
This dude just has the best intros i swear 😂
I just found out your channel, that Intro brings me back. thanks
a mistake like the first one on wreckfest will cost you A LOT of broken ribs :-D
I'm a mobile sim racer, but I actually learned a lot.
Same
Everyone else: Ah yes, I see these mistakes.
Me: Camera car making alot of mistakes too...
thx sensei, started to try qualify for f1 eSports and these vids are helping me soo much
already learning❤
Nice lesson. I don't play sim games but i do sometimes play simcade game. These help a lot in there. Also, pls do a video of retro on driver san fransisco.
Still love your "i love you but i choose Cars" instead, but great video as always, keep it up
at 1:22 you're on the wrong side of the corner, at least for racing line, third mistake!!
Awesome video bro
Bel Video! , all'Ultimo ne ho notati solo 3 Però Ahah
Nice for time attack but a bit naive when you have to battle side by side 😅😅
Nice video 👍
boa tarde meu amigo e vamos passando pra deixar o like e te desejar uma boa sexta-feira.
omg vai brazilian!
4:25 3rd mistake for me - not using all the track before enter the corner, like 1st mistake.
thanks! the video is easy to understand.
I'm a mobile sim racer and I learned a lot.
10/10 great video, thank you!!
Imo the "slow in fast out" rule has quite some limitations, i mean by that rule if i unter a corner as slow as possible i should get shot out at crazy speed, so yeah, there is quite a big point where instead of making you faster it slows you down, it would nice to see a vid on this argument and other "rules" and know when to apply one or the other
It doesn't mean enter slow to exit fast, that would be a ridiclous assumption. What the rule implies is that you should focus on your exit speed rather than your entry speed (Go slower in, try going faster out). As for why it is the golden rule, generally exit speed is the greatest benefactor to fast lap times since there tends to be more straights in circuit racing and it is a lot easier to nail an exit compared to an entry. And also yes situations where entering faster is better do exist and do happen often depending on the circumstances, a great example of which is touge racing where in certain consecutive corners it is usually slightly faster to corner aggressively ,albeit being more dangerous.
slow in fast out is just a small catch phrase to keep in mind
what it really means is it's better for you to enter a corner at confortable speed to get the best trajectory to exit the corner faster
than just divebombing every corner but struggling to get any good acceleration at the end
It's a lot easier to find the limit if you enter obviously too slowly and then add 10% every few laps as you get comfortable with a track, try to go in as fast as possible from lap 1 and you'll pretty much never figure out why everyone pulls two tenths on you through a specific corner.
During reaching the corner you need sufficient control on your car to hit perfect apex so a comfortably slow speed and after you have done the apex you can push the acceleration without much worrying and even compensate sometimes if you braked too early. But If you enter fast, there are more chances you will lose the perfect corner and you cant compensate the slow out from corner.
lol i thought i counted 5 in the first lap.
At 9:45 there is nothing wrong with the corner speed. You just turned in too early and hit the apex earlyer than its optimal.
I really like the idea of the format and the general video, but i can see things that could be improved imo:
First of all the camera. The following car cam works great for teaching defensive moves and attacks, but i feel like for a driving mistakes video a third person camera would be best. Maybe also looking at the onboards from the mistakes, cause its very easy to missjudge the width of the car and end up missing the apex or not using all the space, especially in GT cars, not so much in Formula cars as you sit more in the middle opposed to on one side.
Also something that would be nice i think (But i am unsure how this can be best achieved) is making clear at the beginning what you will count as a mistake, cause going into the first one i wasnt sure what exactly you would count as a mistake (For example being a bit too wide for most of the lefthander before the first big mistake)
Additionally to that i saw a few things that can certainly also be classified as mistakes, depending on how "detailed" you want to get, but i was surprised that the running wide of the lead car at Laguna Seca on the exit of T5 wasnt flagged as a mistake, which was what led to the trailing car to catch up and force the leading car to defend. Also in Turn 6 i guess you could say car in front went in to deep again, as it ended up to wide for the trajectory and picked up the throttle very late, basically inviting a cutback (Even if i wouldnt recommend sending it up the inside on the corkscrew)
I really like the concept and am looking forward to more of this type of video, as there is always something to learn. Really enjoyed it ^^
Yeah that was a hard test for people like me whose are just average at racing. Keep making good content for us!
It's a bit hard to follow exactly what you do when we see the camera of another car who doesn't stay always near you.
Anyway, awesome video, I feel like I learned a lot!
it's good to learn see mistakes that way, if you can see mistakes of your opponent in front you can use them. You can also learn sometimes thing from your opponent :)
@@niewyimaginowany87 Agreed
@@niewyimaginowany87 you should probably be focusing on what your car is doing rather than the opponents
@@pancake5830 ofc seeing your own mistakes is most natural step to improve, first and more important :)
seeing mistakes and techniques of your opponents is second step I think - you can learn how they are racing, where are slower than you (where is easiest way to gain position) and more important where they are faster - you can learn from them
so summary this video should be considered like a more advanced training when you know what are you doing and it's time to look around, it's important too especially in head to head racing, sometimes finding a gap to overtake may be more important than making perfect time - you can't be fast if you can't overtake slowet opponent ;)
i think in the first lap, you moved steering wheel too fast, too violent
How did u created your intro? Thank you! Great video as always viperconcept!
I like the topic, would love to see more videos like this!
However I don't quite understand why you chose to show mistakes from a perspective of a following car. It was quite confusing for me.
1) It's too far and it's harder to judge the speed, braking points and behaviour of the car.
2) The behaviour of the "camera car" distracted me from fully focusing on the main car.
3) I didn't know what the "camera car" is supposed to do - at first I though you are driving this car and the car in front is your student, so I though the camera car is supposed to just follow the main car at a relatively slow speed. But no, it turns out you were actually racing (or sort of).
If these videos are supposed to teach us how to spot our own mistakes, then I'd vastly prefer a chase cam. But if the goal is to teach how to "read" your opponent (in order to find the best opportunities to overtake) then I'd like you clarify that the following car is doing its best and you both are driving at full pace - I don't see a lot of sense spotting mistakes on a kind of "artificial" lap where you change your pace so that the cars are close to each other.
in the 3rd case there are sometimes your outside wheels step on the dirt, that forces you to decrease throttle right?
as Colin McRae said
in case of doubt, flat out
10:25
I need to ask would be a mistake to do this on a wet track
13:42 The wheels drop... Gutter run ?
In this video I learned that I'm very strict.
The last clip from acc i do exactly that hitting the throttle to early ( those its a mistake im making less and less) and i have an allergic reaction to the apexs
What is the name of the song in Patreon sequence
i learned half of theses driving mistakes just because i used to watch your old GT5 and GT6 cups (FF, FR, M-E, Muscle and Final Cup) ;)
Mistake by famous racing game tipo wrc f1 dirt rally project cars 2 e assetto corsa competizione
People in Wreckfest are cleaner than people on Forza/Gran Turismo/ F1 games lol
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i got all the mistake except the defending one
I see all the mistakes, but I won‘t gettin faster in my Laptimes 🥺
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Great as always :)
Anyone maybe knows the link for this Hockenheim?
It was with the name Hockenheim Motodrom
@@ReVDeatH thx
I missed one mistake in 4th video and one mistake in 5th video.
I watch too many races and people playing also i play too much. Also i make too much mistakes and i know about it.
will you play gt 7 ?
Yes!
@@viperconcept Are you considering recording a sort of Lets Play for it? That would be super cool to see you tackling the license tests and things like that, but I do understand if you wouldn't since it's pretty time consuming to record and edit everything lol
I have one: Thinking you are Senna every corner
Ma che accento italianissimo
I'm a mobile sim racer and I learned a lot.
uh, that sound wrong tbh