Theory of Phoenician discovery of the Americas
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Before the 20th century
This theory of a Phoenician discovery of the Americas was popular in the 18th and 19th centuries. In the late 18th century, a number of people speculated on the origins of the petroglyphs on Dighton Rock. Ezra Stiles, then President of Yale College, believed them to be Hebrew. Antoine Court de Gébelin, who initiated the modern usage of the Tarot, argued in Le Monde primitif that they commemorated an ancient visit to the Massachusetts shore by a group of sailors from Carthage.
In the 19th century, belief in an Israelite visit to the Americas became a part of Mormonism. Ross T. Christensen has propounded the theory that the Mulekites in the Book of Mormon were "largely Phoenician in their ethnic origin."
In his 1871 book Ancient America, John Denison Baldwin said
The known enterprise of the Phoenician race, and this ancient knowledge of America, so variously expressed, strongly encourage the hypothesis that the people called Phoenicians came to this continent, established colonies in the region where ruined cities are found, and filled it with civilized life. It is argued that they made voyages on the “great exterior ocean,” and that such navigators must have crossed the Atlantic; and it is added that symbolic devices similar to those of the Phoenicians are found in the American ruins, and that an old tradition of the native Mexicans and Central Americans described the first civilizers as “bearded white men,” who “came from the East in ships.”
In the 1870s, a stone inscription was allegedly discovered in Paraíba, Brazil. A transcription was shown to Ladislau de Souza Mello Netto, director of the National Museum of Brazil. Netto accepted the inscription as genuine, but when it was later stated to be a hoax, Netto backed down and blamed foreigners for its fabrication. In the 1960s, Cyrus H. Gordon believed the inscription to be genuine and created a translation which begins, "We are Sidonian Canaanites from the city of the Mercantile King..." The inscription's letter forms are variations that individually occurred and disappeared over a span of 800 years and so the confluence in a single piece of writing verifies the inscription as a hoax.
20th century theories
Lithograph of the Bat Creek inscription, which Cyrus H. Gordon believed to be Paleo-Hebrew.
In the 20th century, adherents have included Cyrus H. Gordon, John Philip Cohane, Ross T. Christensen, Barry Fell and Mark McMenamin. Gordon believed that ancient Hebrew inscriptions had been found at two sites in the southeastern United States, indicating that Jews had arrived there before Columbus. One of these supposed finds was the Bat Creek inscription, which Gordon believed to be Paleo-Hebrew, but is generally thought to be a forgery. Another find which has been claimed as supporting the theory of Semitic discovery of the Americas is the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, which has also been dismissed as a fake.
In 1996, Mark McMenamin proposed a theory that Phoenician sailors discovered the New World c. 350 BC. The Phoenician state of Carthage minted gold staters in 350 BC bearing a pattern, in the reverse exergue of the coins, which McMenamin interpreted as a map of the Mediterranean with the Americas shown to the west across the Atlantic. McMenamin later demonstrated that putative Carthaginian coins found in America were modern forgeries.
Various theories of Phoenicians/Canaanites/Carthaginians in the New World were discussed, the evidence reviewed and dismissed by Marshall McKusick in The Biblical Archaeologist, 1979; he observed "in this modern day everyone wishes to be his own authority, and the personal search for cultural alternatives seems to make every idea or theory equal in value."
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Season 01 Episode 06 - Stonehenge in America
The Phoenicians made it across to St Michael's Mount in Cornwall (Ictis) to trade in Cornish tin and other metals - no great stretch of the imagination to see such great seafarers heading out across the Atlantic to America... I found this very interesting.
Britain was named by the Ancient Phoenicians. They called it Barr Tannic (The Land of Tin) the Romans then shortened it to Britannia, which takes no stretch of the imagination to see how this became Britain.
Robert sepher goes off on how norway was a phoenician colony along side brother cousin scythians who settled suede (sweden), stories in bolivia to have vikign rulers in the 1200's, iberian dna found in Ecuador pyramid found in 2017 died around 1200's, also tribes in northern peru with dna from britain and iberia. celtic gallicians allies to Carthage. budhist symbols in applachian mountains connected to scythians who settled afghanistan and created that when they biblically free'd the israelite tribes and crushed the assyrians and defeated the persians twice, while making truce with egypt taking princess starting a colony in scotland naming it after her, King James 1st even says in his coronation he was scythian.
So interesting! thank you so much for sharing this video with us! I adore Lebanon
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Phoenicia isn't only Lebanon and at that time Lebanon didn't exist, the Phoenicians went out of Arwad nowadays Syria to navigate arround Africa, and came back entering from Gibraltar and they came back to Tartus, Syria, and Damascus is near which is the oldest capital in the world.
@@vocalsvideos458 I know but mainly was Lebanon, and don't forget that phoenicia was also Israël, part of Syria, Jordan... but Lebanon was the heart.
PROUD LEBANESE/PHOENICIAN
Phoenicia isn't only Lebanon and at that time Lebanon didn't exist, the Phoenicians went out of Arwad nowadays Syria to navigate arround Africa, and came back entering from Gibraltar and they came back to Tartus, Syria, and Damascus is near which is the oldest capital in the world.
حضارة من الحضارات الابرز في بداية الزمان، و التي وضعت الأسس و القواعد في حركة التجارة و الاستيراد و التصدير و التي مازالت تعتمد حتى الآن
كم كان اجدادنا عظماء🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧
That made me proud to be Lebanese
Phoenicians were of aryan origins
Phoenician means red in Greek
Phoenicia isn't only Lebanon and at that time Lebanon didn't exist, the Phoenicians went out of Arwad nowadays Syria to navigate arround Africa, and came back entering from Gibraltar and they came back to Tartus, Syria, and Damascus is near which is the oldest capital in the world.
@@vocalsvideos458 Bro do you read History?!!
Have you ever heard about Byblos?? Adonis and Eshtort ???
... drawing the line beyond Beirut! I believe it would've reached Baalbek, another Phoenician monument (search youtube for Baalbek. Note hat the Romans built a temple on top of it)
I think Baalbek is roman
Christian lmao no, it’s Lebanese homie
A B ik it’s Lebanese. I’m talking about who built it
lmaoo pheonicians were pagans . when they discovered america judiasm was not even a thing.The united states is a jewish country not a christian country. So when they see something spectacular about any of the other civilisations around they try to claim it to be theirs.
The fisrt houses and port in Lisbon is from phoenicians,,,if you dig you will see, you can even visit this.
Lisbon was a commercila port and very used to their voyages, actual portuguese , are in majority their descendents.
these guys already had been in americas, looking for silver, they also made commmerce with the english, buying them metals like Thin, ...people from the sea. phoenicians that departed from Lisbon.
Allis ubba is a phoenician name (Lisbon), thas means , calm port.In portuguese, Lisbôa.
portuguese is a modern phoenician language,,,
Arabic Numbers, Phoenician Alphabet, and a Bar B Que in New England. Those be my Peeps. You're welcome.
yeah! Peeps show on your face...
The numbers are Indian, just called Arab bcz of trading !
@@gabrielnazi9992 no it's persian
Chinese @@gabrielnazi9992
phoeniciens are lebanese....
Fact: 93% of the DNA that modern Lebanese have matches ancient Phoenician peoples. Remember they got that DNA from people 3000 years ago. A trader people that were invaded by everyone were going to have a lot of exchanges and intermixing with others, so some DNA swapping is to be expected.
They did speak Hebrew
@@Hotshotter3000 AND THE PORTUGUESE HAVE PHOENICAN ADN. go to lebanon, and you will see looks like yor looking to portuguese.
@De actual lebanon is like lisbon ,portugal they are direct descendets from phoenicians.-.
@@Hotshotter3000 And Greek.
wow phonecians the ancestors of the people Lebanon discover a colony in Salem new Hampshire around 1200BC.
@phoenician lebanese IT IS TRUE EVERYTHING THERE WAS PHOENICAN UNTIL ABRAHAM CAME.-..
Phoenicia isn't only Lebanon and at that time Lebanon didn't exist, the Phoenicians went out of Arwad nowadays Syria to navigate arround Africa, and came back entering from Gibraltar and they came back to Tartus, Syria, and Damascus is near which is the oldest capital in the world.
.أذا كان هذا الأكتشاف صحيح فهذا يعني الكثير للبنان واللبنانيين وتاريخهم المجيد ولكن السؤال الكبير هنا هو هل نحن نستحق أن نكون أحفاد هؤلاء الأجداد العظام ؟ وهل نحن على قدرٍ كافٍ من المستوى الذي يجب أن نكون عليه ؟ للأسف برأيي نحن لسنا بالمستوى المطلوب الذي من المفترض أن نكون به ، طالما أصبحنا سلعه بيد مجموعه لصوص من أمراء الحرب اللذين سيطروا على كل شيئ في وطننا الحبيب بالتعاون والتآمر مع رعاة النوق والجمال من بدو الصحراء والبترودولار ناهيك عن الصهاينه الأشرار أكانو في الداخل اللبناني أم في فلسطين المحتله ، بئس المصير لأحفاد الفينيقيين بئس المصير
+عبد الرحمن الزهراني أنت تستند على معلومات حديثة العهد مقارنةً بعمر الفينيقيين وبالتالي معلوماتك هذه التي تسردها وتستند عليها هي غير صحيحه ، اللبنانيين وأصولهم الفينيقيه ضاربه في التاريخ بحيث من المستحيل التحدث عنها بدّقه
ليس البنان فقط بل العرب Is not the Phoenicians their first home Al island As described by the father of history Herodith And the famous geographer and historian Strab Before their migration to the Lebanese coast, they established cities under the names of their first home, Tire, Arwad and Jbeil Then they turned west to North Africa and established the present-day Hadhramout of Sousse in the name of Yemeni Hadramout
speculations that is all and why they decided to stop the line in Beirut ? I think they are giving the Lebanese people something to feel good about and at the same time advertisement to beirut
because the writing was in Phoenician language -_-
What are you, an arab?
Phoenicia isn't only Lebanon and at that time Lebanon didn't exist, the Phoenicians went out of Arwad nowadays Syria to navigate arround Africa, and came back entering from Gibraltar and they came back to Tartus, Syria, and Damascus is near which is the oldest capital in the world.
I'm from Beirut Lebanon lol
Lebanon didn't even exist, it was the greater Syria #Ugarit #idlib #Aleppo (although Aleppo is a little far from the main Phoenician zone it's still near and was and still is one of the most important places of Syria)
Lebanon is the oldest name fir a nation that us still used till this day. it was always called Lebanon and will always be. Get your info write before spreading false info
fenicians were veneti!!! old europeans and true romans!!
looool
Phoenician are Lebanese from Lebanon. The are Not Jewish.
They are literally the same ppl !
@@gabrielnazi9992 far from
@@gabrielnazi9992 lol and how is that?
@@gabrielnazi9992 they are not the same people, but they were very close
@@t.s.6992 so far, genetically they pretty much are !