The main thing that keeps me from liking Lorelai is that Rory can treat people like shit and still be an angel. if someone else slips up they're the devil though.
You don’t understand. A parent has to defend their kids in front of others who’re taking aim at them. After the dust settles a parent gets the truth and then decides whether their children deserve a lecture or consolation in private.
Rory had a character arc that matched what can happen to someone who puts way too much pressure on themselves. At the end of the show Rory ended up in a good place (even tho I think she should’ve accepted the proposal). AYITL ruined Logan and Rory’s characters arcs, it ruining Logan’s really bothered me
Logan and Lorelai have a better relationship when it comes to Dean and Jess which is why I`m on Team Logan he and Chris have the same backgrounds but Logan is far more responsible and mature
@@dianacoulter8116 I`m not saying I don`t like the paring of Rory and Jess they are great and I love the chemistry but the reason I lean more on Logan`s team is because his attitude towards Lorelai was more respectful if you ever have a relationship with someone you have to respect the mum that is the most important relationship
why do I feel like Logan is so underrated? He was thoughtful enough to ask for his girlfriend's mother for permission to marry her like no man does that these days. People throw too much shade onto Logan for what?
That's because your parents don't get to decide whether or not your SO decides to ask you to marry them. It's an incredibly toxic attitude to assume that someone's parents get to decide any facet of their adult child's life. Partents. Don't. Own. Their. Children.
@@unematrix I don't think it was so much as Lorelai dictating Rory's life, it was more of a sign of respect like he valued Lorelai's opinion. And let's face it if Rory and Lorelai had a relationship like Emily and Lorelai then he wouldn't have asked. He understood how close Rory was to her mother and took it upon himself to show an extra sign of respect.
He was a bad influence for sure. She might not have done it had she not been involved with him, who is used to being bailed out by mommy and daddy. But I agree, she's an adult who can make her own choices. Yet her mother blames him. which is the root of Rory's bigger problems- in her mother and her grandparents' eyes she is always faultless.
@@karleecraziness9216 yes I agree Lorelei does not have Rory take enough responsibility for her own actions. However, like any kid who gets in with the wrong crowd, they might not consider something like that without that influence
God that’s why I see so much almost similarity between Lorelei and Logan. Both rebels on their strict rich parents but only difference that yes Lorelei ran away and Logan didn’t. If Lorelei didn’t run away and get pregnant she be more like Logan in her high school and college years.
I LOVE LOGAN!!! Honestly, I may even think he deserves better than Rory. Or maybe the two are well matched. It's hard to decide. But I definitely like Logan the best...
@@lauriecarson6483um Rory is also a cheater.. they're actually compatible and I feel if they ended up together no one has to be cheated on anymore because they're still not over each other...
Lorelai always seemed so uncomfortable around Logan almost as uncomfortable as she was around Jess. Dean always seemed to be her favorite of Rory's boyfriends. Maybe it was because Dean was as small town as she was so she felt like they were kindered spirits in a way but if she was to look at it as a "whats best for Rory" type situation she would see that Logan was the best fit for Rory just like Luke was the best fit for her. I really dont think Lorelai gave Logan a real shot because of her own prejudices about his background which fyi is also HER background i.e family legacy, money and social standing. I really appreciate how much effort he put into getting her approval though and i really think her words to Rory was the real reason she declined his proposal at graduation. Which was bitter/sweet for me. I could understand they were young and she had things she wanted to do with her life but i also feel she could still accomplish everything she wanted and eventually settle down with logan. He was never the type to block Rory from doing anything he was always so encouraging and supportive.
oh yeah Logan has more brain cells then Lorelai. Lorelai didn't jump off a cliff drunk and stoned and almost got herself killed doing. oh wait that was Logan. Lorelai has more them Logan ever will.
These are interesting, because we see moments where both Dean and Logan try to redeem themselves to Lorelai, and they're character building moments. Do we ever see one of those with Jess?
I don't understand people who think these two have so much in common just because they're both from wealthy families. The fact that Lorelai walked away from her parents because she wanted to be in charge of her own life and not live a life defined by her parents rigid expectations, much less have them be imposed on her baby, is such a key part of her character. This is something Logan would never do in a million years. He plays at being a rebel with childish pranks like stealing trinkets from rich families (ignoring the countless maids he probably gets fired in the process) and is generally an insufferable snob to anyone he sees as being beneath him (the way he talked about Marty and to Jess really says it all, and I don't care that he was jealous or wanting to show off in front of Rory in those moments, it's still obvious he thinks he's better than them). Lorelai also has a lot of flaws sure but buying into Emily and Richards classist bs was never one of them. She was willing to work as a maid if thats what it took to have her independence and provide for Rory. Logan just wants to talk about how challenging his life is without ever considering the actual tough choice of walking away from it. His 'freedom' isn't worth that much. As much as he complains, he loves the comfortable life, the boat parties, the cosy path laid out for him if he just follows his dad's footsteps and never steps out of line too much, knowing no amount of childish fratboy pranks will ever endanger his golden future. The fact that she chose to walk away and actually build a life for herself and he never will says it all.
i hate lorelie in the last scene. ihate her reaction bc i think it stems from her not wanting rory to move away. she cant handle the fact that someone is gonna have more of rory than her and she cant handle letting rory go. she's o clingy
She neglected her own personal life didn’t she? She should have used Rory’s college years to move forward. She even could have had another child if she’d wanted to.
Cause they didn't talk about marriage at all or the important things that comes with marriage. She wasn't ready. She didn't know what her future would hold for her. Would you marry your partner if marriage wasn't talked about or they decide where you are going to work or live.
Lorelai built her whole life around Rory and didn’t plan to move forward in her own personal life, independent of Rory, as Rory grew older and more into a life of her own. Lorelai relied emotionally on Rory too much.
Um what were the writers smoking here? Logan didn't do any of this! LoreLIE is delulu! -Rory dropped out on her own and Logan was against it. -Rory was the one who pushed Logan into stealing the boat. -Rory and LoreLIE not speaking has nothing to do with Logan. Logan was an amazing guy and Rory never deserved him. His mom was right!
And Lorelei again blames everyone for Rory's mistakes, but Rory... And they wonder why she didn't succeed...
who said Rory has to succeed at something.
Not so, when Rory cheated with Dean ,Lorelia didn't let her get away with trying to blame Lindsay for Dean's cheating.
@@lauriecarson6483 her entire village did..,
@@potocatepetl not really.
That's not why think again
I got caught up on the time she mentioned how long she and Rory didn't talk. "5 months, 3 weeks and 16 days" is 6 months and 9 days...
WAIT lol
We don’t know the like exact month
Logan was a confident guy who didn’t shy away from difficult conversations. Rory was awkward and avoided difficult conversations as much as possible.
The main thing that keeps me from liking Lorelai is that Rory can treat people like shit and still be an angel. if someone else slips up they're the devil though.
Oh boo hoo
You don’t understand. A parent has to defend their kids in front of others who’re taking aim at them. After the dust settles a parent gets the truth and then decides whether their children deserve a lecture or consolation in private.
@@philipgreenaway5631 A parent should learn to teach her kids to respect others kids too
@@lauriecarson6483lmao who tf you boo hooing? Didn’t like what that person commented? Go cry
@@philipgreenaway5631yea like how she defended rory in front of dean's wife and mother in law
Logan had so much character development, I ended up loving him. With Rory was the opposite
He didnt deserve her
Rory had a character arc that matched what can happen to someone who puts way too much pressure on themselves. At the end of the show Rory ended up in a good place (even tho I think she should’ve accepted the proposal). AYITL ruined Logan and Rory’s characters arcs, it ruining Logan’s really bothered me
@@damsykl she didn't deserve him actually.
Logan and Lorelai have a better relationship when it comes to Dean and Jess which is why I`m on Team Logan he and Chris have the same backgrounds but Logan is far more responsible and mature
Are you kidding me? Team milo
Anyone is more mature than Chris
@@laurafabianmarrero8614 lmaooo true though 🤣🤣😭
@@girlybrainrot even gigi an she is a menace 😂😂😂
@@dianacoulter8116 I`m not saying I don`t like the paring of Rory and Jess they are great and I love the chemistry but the reason I lean more on Logan`s team is because his attitude towards Lorelai was more respectful if you ever have a relationship with someone you have to respect the mum that is the most important relationship
why do I feel like Logan is so underrated? He was thoughtful enough to ask for his girlfriend's mother for permission to marry her like no man does that these days. People throw too much shade onto Logan for what?
That's because your parents don't get to decide whether or not your SO decides to ask you to marry them.
It's an incredibly toxic attitude to assume that someone's parents get to decide any facet of their adult child's life.
Partents. Don't. Own. Their. Children.
@@unematrix So you think it's toxic to ask permission to marry Rory. Lorelai didn't say anything to Logan.
@@unematrix I don't think it was so much as Lorelai dictating Rory's life, it was more of a sign of respect like he valued Lorelai's opinion. And let's face it if Rory and Lorelai had a relationship like Emily and Lorelai then he wouldn't have asked. He understood how close Rory was to her mother and took it upon himself to show an extra sign of respect.
@@unematrixyea asking permission is a bit much. Asking for blessing perhaps.
Logan didn’t make Rory do any of those things!
Exactly!
No, he didn't. But him being in Rory's life kinda led to these things happening in a way.
He was a bad influence for sure. She might not have done it had she not been involved with him, who is used to being bailed out by mommy and daddy. But I agree, she's an adult who can make her own choices. Yet her mother blames him. which is the root of Rory's bigger problems- in her mother and her grandparents' eyes she is always faultless.
@@MsJubjubbird Rory skipped her mom's graduation for Jess, she quit Yale without Logan's influence! Logan was not involved
@@karleecraziness9216 yes I agree Lorelei does not have Rory take enough responsibility for her own actions. However, like any kid who gets in with the wrong crowd, they might not consider something like that without that influence
Logan was always my favourite.
God that’s why I see so much almost similarity between Lorelei and Logan. Both rebels on their strict rich parents but only difference that yes Lorelei ran away and Logan didn’t. If Lorelei didn’t run away and get pregnant she be more like Logan in her high school and college years.
EXACTLY
I really wish these two characters had more scenes together because it would have been so good!
I LOVE LOGAN!!! Honestly, I may even think he deserves better than Rory. Or maybe the two are well matched. It's hard to decide. But I definitely like Logan the best...
If he deserve better them Rory why did he cheat on his finance. Anyone who cheats don't deserve better.
@@lauriecarson6483 Rory cheated on Logan too. With Jess.
@@swamprat6666 and Logan cheated on his fiance with Rory what's your point. Everyone cheats on their partner in the show not just Rory.
@@lauriecarson6483um Rory is also a cheater.. they're actually compatible and I feel if they ended up together no one has to be cheated on anymore because they're still not over each other...
Rory is a serial cheater and sleeps with married men...
ngl that ending had a tear in my eye
There should have been more Lorelai and Logan scenes. Logan is so much like Lorelai, more of these would have been so good
Logan was the best thing for Rory at the time they got together... later, not so much.
Forever team logan
Lorelai always seemed so uncomfortable around Logan almost as uncomfortable as she was around Jess. Dean always seemed to be her favorite of Rory's boyfriends. Maybe it was because Dean was as small town as she was so she felt like they were kindered spirits in a way but if she was to look at it as a "whats best for Rory" type situation she would see that Logan was the best fit for Rory just like Luke was the best fit for her. I really dont think Lorelai gave Logan a real shot because of her own prejudices about his background which fyi is also HER background i.e family legacy, money and social standing. I really appreciate how much effort he put into getting her approval though and i really think her words to Rory was the real reason she declined his proposal at graduation. Which was bitter/sweet for me. I could understand they were young and she had things she wanted to do with her life but i also feel she could still accomplish everything she wanted and eventually settle down with logan. He was never the type to block Rory from doing anything he was always so encouraging and supportive.
i used to hate logan but now all my heart sees is him 😭✨
Logan actually has more brain cells than lorelai does she hides it so well
oh yeah Logan has more brain cells then Lorelai. Lorelai didn't jump off a cliff drunk and stoned and almost got herself killed doing. oh wait that was Logan. Lorelai has more them Logan ever will.
@@lauriecarson6483 she raised a massive narcissist and failed to provide nutrition for her daughter. she ain't all that
6 months 1 week and 4 days
This is by far the most important comment on this video 😂😂😂
@@obehiirabor7050 lol thank you. It was a very pressing detail 🤣🤣
I just stopped the video after her line to see if anyone else caught that. Thank you. Seems as though math is not Lorelai's strong suit.
His my fave for Rory. He was her equal I think it forced her to be more accountable
These are interesting, because we see moments where both Dean and Logan try to redeem themselves to Lorelai, and they're character building moments. Do we ever see one of those with Jess?
I don't understand people who think these two have so much in common just because they're both from wealthy families.
The fact that Lorelai walked away from her parents because she wanted to be in charge of her own life and not live a life defined by her parents rigid expectations, much less have them be imposed on her baby, is such a key part of her character. This is something Logan would never do in a million years. He plays at being a rebel with childish pranks like stealing trinkets from rich families (ignoring the countless maids he probably gets fired in the process) and is generally an insufferable snob to anyone he sees as being beneath him (the way he talked about Marty and to Jess really says it all, and I don't care that he was jealous or wanting to show off in front of Rory in those moments, it's still obvious he thinks he's better than them). Lorelai also has a lot of flaws sure but buying into Emily and Richards classist bs was never one of them. She was willing to work as a maid if thats what it took to have her independence and provide for Rory. Logan just wants to talk about how challenging his life is without ever considering the actual tough choice of walking away from it. His 'freedom' isn't worth that much. As much as he complains, he loves the comfortable life, the boat parties, the cosy path laid out for him if he just follows his dad's footsteps and never steps out of line too much, knowing no amount of childish fratboy pranks will ever endanger his golden future. The fact that she chose to walk away and actually build a life for herself and he never will says it all.
Logan si my favourite!❤️
i hate lorelie in the last scene. ihate her reaction bc i think it stems from her not wanting rory to move away. she cant handle the fact that someone is gonna have more of rory than her and she cant handle letting rory go. she's o clingy
She neglected her own personal life didn’t she? She should have used Rory’s college years to move forward. She even could have had another child if she’d wanted to.
I liked Dean but Logan is lo maximo
He is the best !!!!
I got in shock like Lorelai
episode?
Why did Rory Refuse to marry Logan ?
Cause they didn't talk about marriage at all or the important things that comes with marriage. She wasn't ready. She didn't know what her future would hold for her. Would you marry your partner if marriage wasn't talked about or they decide where you are going to work or live.
Ooof! That ending...
Lorelai built her whole life around Rory and didn’t plan to move forward in her own personal life, independent of Rory, as Rory grew older and more into a life of her own. Lorelai relied emotionally on Rory too much.
Show name?
i know i'm too late but it's named Gilmore Girls , just wanna help 💗
aww
Um what were the writers smoking here?
Logan didn't do any of this!
LoreLIE is delulu!
-Rory dropped out on her own and Logan was against it.
-Rory was the one who pushed Logan into stealing the boat.
-Rory and LoreLIE not speaking has nothing to do with Logan.
Logan was an amazing guy and Rory never deserved him. His mom was right!
Who says that the writers has to have the same opinion as Lorelai? I’m pretty sure the writers knew that she’s making unfair assumptions about him.
0:40 - 0:50 is so true af
Yeah -- except none of that was Logan's fault.
S7 e20
Team Jess
Only the idiooots are team Jess
Have you watched: " This is us"? He is fantastic.