Do It Together: Steve Albini
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- Filmed around February 2011 at Electrical Audio Studios in Chicago.
Do It Together is an independent project about DIY music based in Amsterdam, The Netherlads.
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Steve Albini is an American musician, record producer, audio engineer, and music journalist. He was a member of Big Black, Rapeman, and Flour, and is a member of Shellac. He is the founder, owner and principal engineer of Electrical Audio, a recording studio complex in Chicago.
Find out more about Steve Albini at
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This Interview was filmed for the DIT documentary, initially the concept was to create a compilation of interviews about DIY music around the world to explain how DIY works nowadays and to give an insight for younger musicians that could perhaps help them to choose their own road, this movie played in almost every possible venue that would be interested in having it and took many forms, depending on the requirements of the event or venue.
but the idea was to also upload all of the interviews in full, thereby giving the option for everyone to see all of the great ideas and stories. Finally after many years we can put some time into re-editing all of the interviews to upload them separately, I hope you like it.
Currently we're filming livestreaming concerts at the independent venue called OCCII in Amsterdam, and other music videos & political interviews with a new project called Bad Vibes.
Alek Riquelme / Interview, Directing & Editing
Shawnecee Schneider / Camera
Steve Albini / Audio Recording
Daan Duurland / Audio Restoration
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Thank God there are so many cut aways of Steve's shoes.
And of the inside of his nose
Comfort over style every time baby!
Right?! Wtf
There was nothing exciting for b roll so they just filmed his Keds
just as I'm noticing this comment.... {cut to shoes}
The king of snare drum ambiance lol
Crazy how a 38-minute Albini interview has only 900 views. Great work.
1 week later it has 2k
@@timepaintertunebird8160 and almost five a week after that. It's crazy how there are people that still claim Albini is a jerk. He's so generous with his time and experience. Anytime I hear that claim, I use it as one of my litmus tests that shows me when someone talks out of their ass or is hiding a tie under their GBV shirt.....
9k views 2 weeks later
Its all the hand and feet close ups. Couldn't watch it.
june 22 (2 months 2 days) 15K.
i think it's because the algorithm is taking it's time to target/show it to the right people. It showed just today for me.
I think it's really sweet that you let your kid run the camera.
Actually its completely correct, we were kids at the time, we were students and we really had no fucking clue what we were doing :D
@@BADVIBESx You did it though, while everyone else your age was hung over and asleep. 🤙🏼
Didn't know Steve wore anything but his mechanics coveralls in the studio.
Ha! This was my first thought as well.
He always looks so fresh in it too
The audio in this video is very punk rock
😂😂
I don’t what it is about Albini but I could listen to him lecture about the menu at Waffle House and be mesmerized
But would it change your waffle house order?
He’s a wellspring of good ideas about how to spread joy
Continuing participation is better than money
We turned down a quarter mil of Mercury/Polygram's money, in 1990, because they wanted us to change all our lyrics. I'd love to be making a living with my guitar, but I'd do it again. I agree, Mr. Albini.
What band were you in?
I love his harsh, brash and honest approach to anything in life. And I love that he thrives within the same crowd that is repulsed by him dropping the R word in this video.
This is from 2011. People didn’t care about that word 10 years ago.
Great interview! Strange ADD video editing.. 😂
2 years later I doscover this....better late than never. Great perspectives.
I've always appreciated Steve's materialist perspectives on the music industry and diy finances.
He’s a smart dude, he rubs some people the wrong way but with him there’s no BS. This is how he thinks, this is how he operates and that’s that. We are lucky to live in the times we do but also unlucky, we are so lucky in our ability to access music, you pretty much get music from any artist or band whether it’s on Spotify, UA-cam, or some other platform. You can be exposed to some band in another country who’s recorded a livestream, no album, no record label just their music, that is awesome. The negative is still mostly what non music people hear as ‘music’ is the stuff on radio, in movies, in ads and that’s still overwhelmingly commercial crap. It’s about as memorable and meaningful as your last dump, it’s a product usually associated with an image. It’s written, produced and recorded with the goal of selling, not creating something that means something, that’s created because someone wanted to express themselves, someone feels something tell a story or just fun. Where the creation is purely for the song, the music, not we will appeal to the lowest common denominator and look to sell tens of thousands. It’s like McDonald’s vs a top restaurant, one you get cheap, mass produced ‘food’ the other you’re getting something of quality, that’s for those that appreciate the food. I just want to see more independent bands and artists, who write their own music, who can do it live, real musicians. Don’t have to be talented, punk was not full of virtuosos but it was real, that’s the key, it’s real music whether it’s someone bashing out three chords or someone going Steve Vai, long as it’s real, made for the music, not as a product. A good song resonates with you, makes you feel something, it touches something inside you, sometimes you don’t know why but you hear it and you connect. Will those in the popular charts be remembered in 50yrs? I doubt it but every day a kid hears the Beatles or led zeppelin or buddy holly or black flag or muddy waters or Bach for the first time and it resonates with them, that’s what real music does. It’s almost timeless.
This is an awesome interview. Thank you for sharing this!.
I'm really glad this exists--thanks for posting!
Thank you for sharing. Greetings from Belgium.
What a compassionate, unexpectted sweet smart perspective
great interview!!!!
This was wonderful.
Steve the Sage. Thanks for this video.
Words of wisdom.
This is raw & brilliant.
so true... so true so much intelligent and wise words expressed... thank you so much
Steve is a genius
Except when it comes to politics. The guy's a dirty commie. He would want people like me dead.
@@saftovooey4569 He probably just wants people like you to have free healthcare.
Relaxed, raw & brilliant.
really great interview, thanks
Thanks for sharing
Slay the dragon.
Such an honest and transparent view.
Thanks For This
Incredible Listen
Fantastic bogey shot at 10:10
Thanks. I almost missed it
This is fascinating, and it's impossible to fault Albini's music business recommendations on an ethical level - on the other hand, most of the music I love was created by wasteful egomaniacs who couldn't organise a sock-drawer.
😂👍
@@Endlesssummer1 thank you for saying this
They didn't create it on their own... They might claim to have, but there will have been *someone* doing all the work behind the scenes while the "artistes" flounced about being all cool and that.
So great to watch my documentary...
I've never seen an interview with Steve where he fails to use the word 'paradigm', I think he has a bet with someone from years back that means he has to use it in literally every interview he does.
YOU'VE HEARD THIS, GUYS, WE CAN USE DUDE'S MUSIC ANYWHERE AND HE DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK. wish I was making skating videos so I can put shellac on it
START MAKING SKATE VIDEOS
Nice to know! I'll tell the skaters. Sick thanks!!!
If the licensing is owned (or controlled) by a record company, you’ll still get fucked.
He’s really mellowed out with age. Asshole or not , your choice. He’s the cats’ meow always has been in my mind. I’m a hard ass, he’s a hard ass.
He's no bullshit and seen a lot of predatory ugly things.
Albini telling it like it is
Great interview, thanks!
The IP obsession isn't limited to the music industry; it's an American thing generally. It keeps all the lawyers in clover.
big steve droppin 900 r words in this but also droppin absolute facts
Who cares
records?
This camera work is comparable with The Room.
why is the secondary camera so shaky/out of focus/done so randomly? 😐
(audio engineering program, but took a camerawork class, basically they tell you to commit to something instead of moving everywhere)
Probably for stylistic reasons. To create some randomness, or "home footage" feeling, or just to add excitement to it visually
I'd argue the editing is to blame
more closeups of the trousers please, great camerawork
this was a fucking excellent interview.
This is just good life advice from the point of view of a musician/engineer/etc
Enjoyed this. What is the name of the opening and closing song?
A lot of wonderful, unvarnished truth here. The US health system needs urgent overhauling. Tax the rich, and give some of that money to creative arts grants.
Is.....is this a joke? Is this satire? I can't even tell anymore, the world is so backwards nowadays.
@@saftovooey4569 are you holding up the US health system as a good model? That would be some cutting edge satire.
Where can I watch the rest of the doc?
Camera 2 either has some legit technical issues or is trying way too hard. Lol… really good interview tho
Great interview, the artsy shots were a little distracting though.
Yeah surprised alot weren't cut out. Out of focus, not stabilized etc.
@@joshuapocalypse its cuz it was filmed on tape and the tape is all fucked up, so we had to mask the empty spots of audio and video with the other camera, which is not always best, but still i prefer rather that then using photos or shots of the studio. Stabilization in post crops the footage a lot and this is already quite low resolution, so it would look like a pixelated mess... but Im really not bothered by the out of focus stuff, a matter of taste.
B-cam needs to settle down 😬 cool interview though
What monitors are those
Have some sympathy for the viewer to not take them out the moment so the words don't get lost....
Love the video game riff... "conceptually, I'm OK with it... but if you ask me, I'd say NO... however, if you just used my music I would never know about it so WHY ASK???"
During an interview with Steve Albini is the wrong time to learn how to use your video camera.
hahahahahaha.sorry video guy but you could have edited this.
Some people learn to use their cameras by pointing them at their junk, we pointed it at Albini, not bad if you ask me :D
@@BADVIBESx but i seen what was hanging from his nose lol.
@@theprogrammerrolandmc3039 you're saying that like there's sth wrong with things hanging out of peoples noses :D but I think that was a white hair ;)
@@BADVIBESx brilliant interview i actually like up close i can see the white coming through his dyed hair as well now i am waiting on you interviewing dolly parton or someone really over the top
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Why are you on his LV-4? Why not ST-12?
Datum??
there is a certain kind of person that really gets irritated by darting, close-up shots. I am not one of those people, but there seem to be a lot in this comment section. I love the focus shots on objects in the studio, his hands and stuff. It's great. I don't get what everyone's problem is. Y'all would hate the Safdie Brothers films. lol
love how he bashes his own fans at the end
B CAMERA needed to go to the bathroom or what??
I thumbed up at about 4 minutes...
WORK ETHIC!
Directed by Paul Greengrass
He puts soul in his recordings but when he talks he could strip the humanity out of anything.
TL;DR: We jam econo
He never gets older, does he? 😁
Great interview, thanks.
The only thing I disagree is his denial of digital music-making as he talks about the guy with the laptop on a stage with light show in the background. It's not the blacksmith's fault that people now drive cars and vice versa. And it's the same thing with digital musicians.
I totally disagree if your trying to compare playing a actual instrument with a laptop/ dj. Learning and perfecting a instrument is a actual talent. Not using a laptop. Imagine if at Woodstock in 69 they were using laptops lmao its pathetic!!!!!!
@@ianmcgranaghan9888
You don't get the point. I don't compare, I'm just saying, that electronic music-making is an art form, too.
Technically a computer is an instrument
I think, unless you are using some kind of synths and generating the music live with those tools, electronic music is more a process of composition than performance. I would definitely agree that it’s an art form but if you’re just presenting a recorded piece of music then it’s not really a live performance. If you’re just pressing play then you’re not really performing something live and it’s not the same as playing an instrument that you have learned to play through years of practice. However if you are using electronic instruments like synths in real time then that is a skilled performance.
@@ianmcgranaghan9888 dj's..REAL dj's not some shmuck pressing play on a laptop.. ARE playing an instrument. They invented a whole new language almost overnight compared to someone playing a guitar or something.
Couldn't watch this because of the editing
Thats cool 👌🏻
You could have just listened to it FFS 🤦♂️
@@DaveyMulholland I did
hey BAD VIBES , it's incredible how terrible the 2nd camera is !!! .. so fkn annoying !!!
Another reason "intellectual property" is a crazy insane bullshit sorta idea is known as "multiple invention", or "simultaneous invention".
Generally that is thought of as an anomalous weird aspect of certain crucial moments of history (the invention/discovery of calculus, the printing press, DNA discovery, electromagnetic induction... etc.).
But it is actually how things work all the time.
We're not exactly separate entities with our own property - especially mental, emotional, artistic, inspiring.... super-especially sexually!
We're sorta something swimming in an orgasmic pit of ideas and possibilities and tendencies - INFORMATION - and regardless of how much people like to play money-games and claim ownership, the planetary consciousness knows otherwise, and deep-down we all do as well.
Whether people agree with this or not, that there's a conversation to be had and we're all primed and ready for it -
its almost like the language(s) themselves created us to have the conversation of its own meaningful implications.
We were all birthed and brought here simultaneously invented and appearing as multiple inventions - convincingly masquerading as being something around 8 billion people instead of just one planet sized monster.
I heard a dude on an interview say recently:
"don't you know... humanity is AI for the mineral kingdom...."
Albini might appreciate such an idea. Maybe he even thought them at the same exact time that fellow did.
Those lyrics to The Song Of The Minerals sure reveal the intimate love-affair with the crystalline consciousness. Copper might never become gold - but often many have said that it may be possible for lead to become precious stuff. Galena has perfect cleavage after all!
Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do do it, do it in the road?
No one will be watching us, why don't we do it in the road?
boufant jellyfish!
WTF with the camera?
the audio/video editing on this is so strange and distracting
BRB, serenading my girlfriend with ‘Kerosene’.
That scandi art dollar is tax dollars... So many of us resent paying tax. This is a good reason why we should.
10:53 But what if they're MY hit$?!
$hit. I don't HAVE any hit$. Lol
Well, bravo. Hugs from Russia.
"Only appeal to an audience of assholes and crazies" I feel targeted.
Steve Albini: The music industry is dead.
Also Steve Albini: Time to make the next record. It's my "job."
What the hell are you even talking about?
@@1985cactus I think he's referring to some contradictions in the man's stated philosophies.
@@nervehoney6807 It's possible to make music outside the music industry. Steve should know, he's been making it his whole life.
@@1985cactus LOL. Steve is a recording celebrity and built the studio he makes his living with entirely because of the notoriety he gained during the major label heyday and his association with major label artists.
I'm listening to another interview with him as I type in which he freely admits that Electrical Audio would have gone, and I quote, "Tits-up" if he hadn't started his recording career back then instead of now.
He's also freely admitting that he never would have been able to make a living as just a musician.
He says stuff like that (which is all true), and he blasts everybody else for making money off of music...ticketmaster, record labels, etc., but he charges over $1500 a day for bands to record with him at Electrical Audio, which is probably 30% more than other comparable facilities.
He also ridicules the idea of intellectual property while charging those rates. In other words, HE wants to get paid for his contribution to recorded or live music, but he ridicules anyone else who wants to get paid for their contributions to it, including the bands who paid him to make the recording.
@@nervehoney6807 He records bands, from smallest indie bands to the biggest major label bands, but his approach to recording them is the same. He doesn't deal with anyone from the music industry, so no one from the record label, no one from the management etc. Also, he doesn't make money from the royalties. He charges the bands by the hour, when they are done he hands them the tape and that's it. There's zero involvement with anyone outside of the musicans.
And then...at that point...no really has a right on.....
I would have liked a few more close-up shots of the booger in his nose.
If it were necessary to profit from every artistic enterprise there would be few artists. A band may legitimately choose to produce a record for purely artistic reasons, or to play for free for the pleasure of performing. Steve seems to suggest that these activities would be stupid things to do. This surprises me, since in other respects he seems to despise commercial activity. Perhaps I misunderstand his position.
I wonder if he still feels this way, in that to me there’s a great dissonance between the idea that a recording or a tour only succeeds when it’s profitable and at the same time undercuts the business of music by kinda deriding the impact the internet has had on sales.
@@Zettel9016 No interest in setting me straight?
Even the camera operated is bored.
yeah great philosophy Steve except that saturation = dilution. and so now what you celebrate here ( correctly in the aspects you celebrate, " culturally" ) which is the all reaching availability of all music, means music became as bottled water... holding little to no value ( dont mean $$ value)
its worthless now.
nothing special and if anything is special it is passed over in the speed of light
So inspirational how much he freely says retarded
About intellectual property. Obviously serenading a girlfriend in a bar oughtn't result in legal action, but if a corporation makes use of a song to make money, it's only fair for them to pay for it.
Let's say I can put Taylor Swift's music on cd and sell these online for a cheaper price than Swift's record label can, wouldn't that be awful? Of course it would.
@@Zettel9016 I would argue the reason I cannot sell home-made cds of taylor swift are because I have to respect the fact her music is her intellectual property.
"rewarding for it's own sake" pfft! what a loser.
you have dried snot in your nostril, getting a lot of attention on the close-ups
This guy thinks about money more than a fkn hedge fund manager.
It's necessary for sustaining a living based on your passion
Thats a business owner.
One of my most beloved earth entities dropping R-bombs left, right, and centre is definitely a BAD VIBE :(
R?
right? pretty sad :(
He's learned from it in his old age I can guarantee u that
@@roachtheflorist9492 this vid is from this year/last year so unlikely i think?
@@kyleacab4483 look in the description "Filmed around February 2011"
Steve shouldn't have compared how things work in the US to Europe because he came across as not very clued up in that subject. The healthcare issue is the perfect example as he claims artists in Europe have more 'pocket money' because they don't have to pay for healthcare but he completely missed the point that the standard of living wage in the US is superior to the one in Europe, maybe except in a couple of exceptions, meaning everything in Europe costs more against your minimum wage so in fact, if you're a fairly healthy individual, an American will have more money to spare than an European and not only that, you can get away with working less hours in the States and have spare time off to dedicate to your art than in Europe. It's no coincidence that the US is the biggest music export country in the world! He also mentions "standard healthcare" in Europe. Let me translate what that means - standard meaning the same shitty quality for everyone compared to what you get in the US. That's why if you need a (non emergency) operation in Europe, or even just to see a doctor, you will be placed in a long queue and pray that hopefully, your condition doesn't get worse before you can finally have some basic treatment. Has he looked to see how many people travel to the States from Europe every year for healthcare? And has he never spoken to an European artist? Everyone complains about the lack of venues (and they keep closing at an alarming rate), lack of incentives and lack of money to support Arts in Europe. He must have heard about maybe the only two exceptions which is Sweden and Holland, where things seem to be a lot better for musicians but Europe is way bigger than just those two countries and you cannot compare those countries to the US in terms of size, demographics and budgets. He's an audio engineer and a record producer, he should stick to what he knows best and leave what he doesn't understand to others to comment.
Yeah that was my only objection too. He also seems to miss the fact that healthcare in Europe is not single payer but a pool, so people do in fact pay for it, it's just that unless they are freelance the payment comes off automatically from their wage (so they don't manually issue the payment themselves)
American ethos as it's finest 😂
telling bands what they “should” or “shouldn’t” do is a total cop move. his body of work aside, his views of touring are delusional and clouded by his own success. he must have forgotten what it’s like to be an excited teenager in a van trying to be a rockstar. probably because that was almost 40 years ago for him.
“I don’t think a band should do anything beyond their realistic reach.” Sounds like good advice from someone who’s done a ton of work with bands over the years. Your take is the classic “cry about gatekeepers, not realizing that they’re the ones protecting a scene from being taken over by corporate interests”…. what have YOU done for punk music?
Can't roll with his ableist language yikes defs thought he was better than that tbh
Yea the first time he dropped the R word, I flinched but let it roll as a clumsy choice of words. The second and third time start to call for a little more objection. It’s unfortunate because it undermines the otherwise thoughtful sentiment.
2021 folks, the yikes police is here to tell you about how your language is baaaad. Go whine somewhere else, no one cares about that sensitive crap here
@@arsenije_wav8620 This doesn't fit the definition of policing. Steve has a free right to say what he wants as do you. I haven't said he can't do it or that he shouldn't be allowed on youtube etc because of it. I guess what is policing is saying "Go whine somewhere else" because that is telling someone to leave this area as a result of their free speech. You can say what you like anytime, and it's really just a case of how you wanna come across to your own self and to others and how you care for the people in your communities. People with learning difficulties have said that they find this word offensive because there is a history of oppression related to that word's usage. My comment was that I thought Steve was a better guy than that in terms of my value set because there are other analogous words he could use that don't have the same contexts. You may feel you now have more affinity with him because of this word usage and that's fine also. It's a free world. From the discussions I have in studios, bands and the Musicians Union, there are a lot of people who have similar values (also the only other commenter is one such person) so it's hard to agree your assertion that "no one cares about that sensitive crap here." Anyway have a great day.
This was also recorded 10 years ago.
If you've watched some recent interviews with Steve he has publicly stated that he has written some questionable lyrics over the years, and has probably used some questionable language over the years ... however, he's also unapologetic about it either.
It was a different time 10 or 20 years ago.
Do some things age well? Absolutely not but at the same time we need to be aware people change, we also need to take a step back and realize that not everything is pointed and offensive in context.
Just chill
I'm more upset to find out he's a dirty commie.
you get to interview Albini and this is how you film and edit the interview ? This has to be the worst camera work I've ever seen let alone the editing. you should be ashamed