Dev CoolGuy umm Argentina, Chili, Uruguay. . and for different continents, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa are all more southern than Brazil. .
@@Guizambaldi Or maybe she dislikes the assumptions ? And even if she doesn't want anything to do with it, so what? It is not longer a problem for this generation, especially in a non-racist country like Brazil
@@Guizambaldi Because people dislike being labeled with stereotypes? I suppose at least, just like mexicans laugh off at the representation they got in cartoons in the USA during the 1950's, with those ponchos and very wide hats made with straw.
I love how they assume Brazilians are not "racist" and how they assume they all have African genes. lol I know Brazilians. Brazilians even have jokes about black people just like they do in the US.
I am brazilian About 50,000 Confederates migrated to Brazil in the American Civil War These people are just remembering their ancestors just want to keep a tradition, it is not a crime
@@michellebrown8988 Pelo menos não precisamos de uma guerra civil. O então embaixador americano disse: "Aqui as coisas são resolvidas pacificamente, não pela força". Quando a escravidão foi abolida, ele recolheu as flores que as pessoas haviam jogado e disse: "Vou levá-las para o meu país para que saibam como aqui se aprovou uma lei que lá custou muito sangue".
Most of the population of Americana is not mixed race. Doing a little research shows Americana is 85% white, 12%brown, 2,4% black. It's not atypical really for smaller cities and towns in Sao Paulo and other states south of there, which had German and Italian waves of immigrants in the later 1800's and early 1900's.The city of Sao Paulo in fact is the largest Japanese city outside of Japan. You guys should at least try to do some research and not just take some other article's details as fact.
True, we have japanese people and chinese people here in my municipality, they keep the family very close and they still visit the country of their grandfathers. But, White people and Black people alike mix, so you gotta know something before saying a specific region is "mixed" just cause there is a diverse demography. Would be the same thing as saying the US is more mixed than Minas Gerais or RJ, which isn't true.
I have ancestors who were Condederados, and I have researched them extensively. A lot of the information in this video is either inaccurate or simply made up. The Turks usually do better investigative reporting. I was disappointed. This video was simply an editorial on the Confederate flag, with the word "Brazil" thrown in on occasion.
@Cerbone That's kind of like asking if Americans are white, brown, or black. There are all colors of people in the USA, as in Brazil. The descendants of the Confederados, however, would probably call themselves white-- even if they don't have much European left in them by this point.
@Cerbone Ah, I think you could just answer that by yourself. Do you think people would just consider white people brown cause the majority is brown? Or the other way around? Makes zero sense.
I think they don't realize Brazil has a city where only Japanese is spoken and also another city where only German is spoken... And etc... We're not all mixed up or black. 🙄
My ancestors went to Brazil with this movement. They were financially devastated by the Civil War, and had been promised riches by the Brazilian Emperor, who wanted to recruit American ingenuity and talent for building his infrastructure and economy. After spending less than a few years there, some of my ancestors returned. They realized they had been conned and missed their old life in the USA. Brazil was full of diseases, strange insects & animals, snakes, jungles and jungle fevers, a language fee of them spoke, and no one of their own religion. (This impacted various things, like where they could get buried.) Slavery had continued in Brazil, long after they returned. So it wasn't a loss of slaves that brought them back to the USA. The Turks here are very uninformed and ridiculously disingenuous.
I was born and raised here in Americana, the city that was once a village founded by Americans, it was part of the city of Santa Barbara D'Oeste where this festival happens every year. The thing is, they celebrate the history of this place and the people who came here, nowadays there's nothing to do with politics, racism or any of that shit.
@@extatickiddo5714 You are keeping hate alive. Who is the monster? A confederate republic does not = slavery ever. Slavery is so common on this world that all peoples alive today are descended from slaves. Legally white slavery ended in 1967 in todays Turkey. I comment with all that because i dont think you understand just how much slavery defines us all in the modern world . If we keep on in our hearts we are slaves already . Besides those look like poor folks.. Poor folks cant have slaves.
doubt they're that mixed. most of them formed township in the southern part of Brazil, where the population today is over 80% white. whiter than the confederacy ever was.
@KausaRockCom you are wrong. Confederates never came to Rio Grande do Sul, they stay in São Paulo. Gauchos are consider cowboys ONLY because we have a similar culture to US cowboys, but our origens are completly different, in fact it dates way before civil war happen in US.
“White” in Brazil is completely different to being white in America. If these people have been there for that long, they’re definitely mixed with something.
shadry86 Patrick DaMao ***** LOL. Apparently you guys aren't very observant when it comes to semantics. I specifically said THOSE Brazilians, i.e. the ones claiming Anglo-Saxon Protestant Confederate ancestry and heritage links to the southern United States. Obviously Brazil overall has a huge population of mixed race native Amerindians and whites, plus blacks. That doesn't negate the fact that there are plenty of people of purely Caucasian stock, as well as people of purely Amerindian stock and African genetic stock. Intermarriage over the centuries between these different racial groups has created a vast "Mestizo" mixed race population, but that doesn't necessarily apply to niche groups like these guys saying they have Confederate lineage. For that matter, there are plenty of white Brazilians who are obviously descended purely from Portuguese colonists from centuries ago.
Eric Connor Brasil s mosty multoes ((european and african ancestry) or African , BRASIL 2ND LARGEST COUNTRY WITH LARGEST POPULATION TO NIGERIA.the culture in brasil is pretty much like carribean feastives.even 39percent europeans a have distant african roots since portugal mix with moors,arabs and africans 800 years ago.
Eric Connor Alot of these europeans u talking about are meditrean its no way they are full cauasian these people are know for mxing with arabs,berbers,phonicans people
"The ancestors now being black" No. Most of the descendants of the Confederates in Brazil are white, such as Rita Lee Jones, queen of Brazilian rock, Ellen Grace Northfleet, former minister of the Supreme Court of Justice, etc.
Agreed. The families who went there were not quick to intermarry with the local slaves. Their original racism actually kept them from being nearly as genetically and racially diverse as most of their nation.
@@anneahlert2997 That wasn't the main reason. The main reason is that the majority of the population of the cities of Santa Bárbara do Oeste and Americana, founded by the Confederates, is today composed of white Brazilians descended from Italian and portuguese, ethnic group predominant in the state of São Paulo and in the South of the country. So the descendants of the Confederates mixed with this white population and that's why they are still white. The greatest example is the most famous descendant of the Confederates, the queen of Brazilian rock, Rita Lee Jones, whose father Charles Fenley Jones was of American ancestry and mother Romilda Padula was of Italian descent. To think that the majority of the Brazilian population in the Southeast would be "black" or "Brown" is laughable and only demonstrates the lack of knowledge of Americans with the basic geography of other countries.
@@nascarcrashes6567 🤣 não mesmo pequeno gafanhoto. não sigo os grupos de bovinos (lula e bolsonaro), só servem para atrasar o desenvolvimento do país e ainda prejudica o neurônio dos brasileirinhos que estão na faculdade. resumindo só quem ganha com falta de conhecimento e um povo sem conhecimento da sua própria história, são os políticos, e continuará assim presidente entrando e saindo sem resolver os problemas e com falsas promessas, se as pessoas não agregarem conhecimento e o poder que tem em suas mãos para mudar um país para melhor sem bandeiras e sem divisão entre grupos. enfim tenha um bom fim de semana para você meu caro.🤝🖐
I am amazed and worried that such influential people (TV presenters) in America are so ignorant and in a way arrogant. They should get their facts right before talking a load of rubbish on TV. They seem only to focus on the negatives and scorn these people for taking pride in their southern heritage. They should feel ashamed of themselves.
Unfortonatelly at Brasil we copy "american problems" that we dont have and dont need here like political correctness for example, racial cotes etc. We have different problems and we nees our own solutions, not american solutions! We have REAL problems to deal like starving rate, misery, poverty, sanitation rates, illiteracy, criminal rates etc, we dont have time to loose with fake problems or rich people problems like "gender issues, mixed bathrooms, pseudo racism and all of this bullshit!"
If you don't see there a racism then don't associate it that way. They all get along and live together, they make families and live in piece. They are totally different people and don't mean something bad with the flag.
"Is this rio life?" I find it funny that some outsiders think that Brazil is just Rio de Janeiro. By the way, this party was in the state of São Paulo, just to be clear.
It's really odd to me that the lady in this video says that the brazilians really don't know that the Confederate flag stood for racism. But I bet at the same time she has no problem with celebrating American holidays under the American flag. I wonder if she knows what the American flag stood for in those days. If she does not know, maybe she should go and speak with Native Americans and the Chinese. Until Abraham Lincoln came into office, the north under the American flag, had slaves. The generals in the union army, under Abraham Lincoln did not enslave Native Americans, they just kill them instead. They drove them off of their land. Maybe she should read up of the history of what was done under the American flag. How about the Chinese? they were enslaved by the United States government. who does she think built the railroads during that time. Neither the Confederate flag or the American flag have a good history for protecting and showing love to their fellow human. The link below is just one of the atrocities that were committed under the American flag around that time period. but if anyone clicks on this link, you will see that there were southern politicians that were against this brutal act against Native Americans. personally, I despise when people speak of things that they have no clue about. and for her to demonize one flag, she needs to demonize all flags and what happen under those flags. By the way, I could careless about the Confederate flag. it is the point, that there are too many ignorant people in the world, but have no clue of true history and the b******* that every country on this planet has committed under their national flag. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
In the 1920s 30s 40s and 50s the Klu Klux Klan use the American flag first I don't see Nobody saying the American flag is racist there was just one slave ship that flew the American flag I Don't see Nobody talking about this
My ancestors were some of the "Confederados" who went to Brazil after the Civil War. They were economically devastated by the War and the loss of slave labor, property, and crops. They had nothing. Basically, they were conned by the Brazilian Emperor at the time, who promised them mansions, ships, and more. The modern equivalent is moving your entire life based only on some memes or on a "get rich quick" infomercial. (Yes, it was foolish then, too.) I have a diary of a young woman (Jennie Keyes) who went with her family and knew my ancestors. It's a fascinating read. She goes into great detail of her life and their journey. Interestingly, she only rarely mentions the slaves, and almost never by name. She definitely interacted with some of the house slaves, but none of them were never human to her. She noticed them the same way she noticed the horses-- as simply a part of her life that needed no special consideration, that had no sentience of their own. Her diary is a great window into the mind of enslavers of that era. When the migrants arrived, they discovered diseases, language barriers, jungle fevers & animals, and many other hardships. They tried to remake their former Antebellum lifestyles, including social parties, plantations, and of course slavery. Many (like some of my ancestors) were disappointed when they realized they had been conned, and came back to the USA, where they (finally) signed their post-war papers vowing allegiance and loyalty to the US govt. They returned not because they were racist, but because they had gotten conned and missed their family and friends back home. (I also have letters written by Capt. Freligh, explaining his actions of the era.) To me, this migration is no different than people in modern times who whine about wanting to leave the USA, because politics on one side or another is not going their way. It's the same psychology. But for my ancestors, it was also largely about being broke and being promised riches. Others of my ancestors stayed behind. Today, they do not see the Confederate flag as a symbol of slavery, but as a symbol of their American heritage. (I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just what they see it as.) I am disappointed with this video. Most Young Turks content is much more substantive. This video seems to just be a venting bash of the Confederate flag with the word "Brazil" thrown in on frequent occasion. Ana and Cenk both spew a lot of misinformation here. I'm very disappointed at their lack of research on such an interesting topic and their willingness to spew unchecked misinformation. Side note for Genealogists: One seemingly small problem which helped to isolate the Confederados from the local population was religion. The dominant religion of the Brazilians was Catholicism, so many aspects of their lives were impacted. The Confederados could not be buried at the existing cemeteries, so they have special cemeteries for them there. (Genealogists investigating ancestors in this group should focus on those cemeteries.) Brazil was one of the last nations to outlaw slavery. They did so in stages, freeing some groups of slaves, then others, then others. (Age, gender, etc were factors in when a person became free.) Brazilians like to brag that this method of freeing the slaves kept them from Civil War, but in reality, it allowed slavery to continue far longer than anywhere else. Because they had slaves as late as the 1880s, Brazil offered some of the most powerful photographic images of slavery. Photography had become common enough towards that era, that there are many images taken of enslaved people at work and in bondage. You can see the humanity of their souls and the inhumanity they were forced to live under. There is one striking image of a pair of slaves carrying a woman in a buggy, and one of the enslaved men looks boldly and defiantly into the camera. You can see his anger and his defiance, despite his bondage. www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/11/12/244563532/photos-reveal-harsh-detail-of-brazils-history-with-slavery Genealogy Note: My family surnames there are Freligh, Shippey, Wells, Doherty/Dougherty, Lumm, Hornsby, and Keep.
I've been there for this thing and its hilarious!! There wasn't a racist person in the whole city!! Most of them, by most of them I mean almost every one of them don't even know hat the whole confederate thing is even about. I heard of them calling the confederate flag, the other American flag! I saw a black guy that barely spoke English dressed up like Robert E Lee and he even had a big white beard and the fried chicken was kick ass!!! I couldn't get enough of it. Then they had this what I think was white rum that was supposed to be moonshine! They all did that thing the Dukes of Hazzard did that was their version of the Rebel Yell and I saw a real old Days in 4 door car painted like the General Lee with what appeared to be house paint and put on with a brush and roller!! I don't think I have ever drank to the Confederacy any less than 100 times! it was really fun and I was sick for two days and everybody that I drank with called me Gringo Grande I guess Cuz I'm 6'4" I also bought a really awesome Confederate soldiers cap that I think the guy called it a cappy or was it a kepy or kepi I just looked at the receipt that was in the leather flap inside it and its says Kepi hat $
São cidades que foram fundadas por imigrantes conferderados Santa Barbara do Oeste, Americana e outras na região,são descendentes de confederados,como nos Estados Unidos da América nos Brasileiros somos uma nação multicultural temos festas Japonesas, Italiana, Alemã e etc. Não é fazendo apologia ao racismo e sim comemorando algo historico que descende de familias que fundaram essas cidades.
Just put the flags away man, it’s interesting history sure, so leave it at that. And put up a museum. Instead of having a festival that floats around a hate symbol.
@@natebox4550Hate symbol for you, not for them. Besides, that flag represents more than just that. Brazil also has a big history with slavery and hate, and the modern flag of Brazil is still basically the same as the one from those times, does it mean it's a hate symbol, NO!
@@SouthernGentleman southern pride for a point in your history that only lasted five years, you can have pride in the south. That’s fine, but don’t have pride in the worst point in southern history. A point in history in which the south seceded to keep slaves(main reason, there were smaller ones as well).
I am from Europe and I don't see how difficult it can be to understand what those people are celebrating. They don't pay some black man over there to pretend to be a slave, picking cotton or being whipped during the celebration. And, I strongly believe how Southern culture exists and those people are taking where the first generation left it as they new it. Believing how Southern culture was all about racism and everyday life was revolving around whipping slaves makes no sense.
jam rock Please, that's a different country. We in America seem to think of our culture as the pinnacle of world culture. We tend to think we are the world. These people probably don't give a damn what it means in this country. They have their own context and that's all that matters to them as it should.
Listen, Brazil was the last country in the west to abolish slavery in 1888, and believe me, they have dealt with slavery. They know what they are doing.
A. Brazil has areas with very few black people. In fact, there are are areas of Brazil that do not have any white person with Portuguese ancestry at all, despite the fact that the nation was a Portuguese colony. Southern Brazil is predominantly Italian in Sao Paolo, German in Santa Catarina and Rio Grande Dol Sul and East European (Austrian ,Polish,Ukrainian ,Russian ) in Parana. Mixed Race Brazillians are predominantly in the North and North East. Americana is a town in Sao Paolo, automatically, meaning that its population is most likely predominantly White because Sao Paolo has very few mixed race people aside from the largest cities. In fact, Americana is more like an American city in the1950s in terms of demographics.
The guy says obviously the flag means something else over there than it does here in America.... The flag does not mean the same thing to everyone in America. In the 1980's, Georgia had the confederate flag in it's flag, and I believe South Carolina flew a Confederate flag over the capital. For many people who lived in the South, whites at least, the flag did NOT mean 'we hate black people.' Look at the Dukes of Hazzard TV show in the 1980's. An episode might have an anti-racist theme. The Duke boys would be clearly not racist and opposed to racism, yet they had the Confederate flag on their car. Many years later, there was a movie remake of the show where the mechanic had painted the flag on their roof without their knowing about it. They went to the city, people saw it, and reacted negatively to it. Back in the 1980's, the flag meant 'Southern Heritage', 'We are Southerners.' Yankees may never have quite figured that out. Because many blacks and non-southerners found the flag offensive, it has come down off of state capitals and is rarely used. The KKK apparently still uses it, so many people have come to see it like a Swastika. The Confederate flag was an actual national flag (the battle flag during a time of war), and these Brazilians were descended from people from that nation, and display the flag for a festival for people from that family lineage. Why would they think of it as a 'racist' symbol?
I honestly can't wrap my head around this. Their ancestors left and died for a stupid reason. I feel they know what they are celebrating... I just don't know if they know it's wrong.
mIchaela burton the history of the bible and christianity. most christian don't have any idea about them, they think the book is wonderful and the religion promotes love. but wrong is a strong word. symbols have subjective meaning, that is what happens with the american flag in different parts of the world.
Know what the funny part about all this is those same people actually went on to do positive things like help with agriculture and educated freed slaves in the school they help build.
When you described what they do out there i was like wait.. they didn't have to move so far THAT'S WHAT TEXAS IS FOR! Seriously i live here they do that.
All 10,000 wre slave owners? How many people is the South were slave owners? So the 13,000 Mexicans that fought with them were slave owners as well, and the Cherokee Indians? Just asking..
1815 Congress of Vienna condemns slavery and agrees on a gradual abolition of it 1851 Brazil abolished slave trade, and though it took until 1888 to abolish slavery altogether, it was a gradual, relatively peaceful, definitely more civilized, process with, in my opinion, a better long term outcome, that began ten years before the American civil war. 1964 Civil Rights Act overrules Jim Crow laws February 7 2013 Mississippi Ratifies The 13th Amendment. Brazilians are so done with racism some forgot their ancestor's history, how long is it going to take the US to get civilized?
A flag can mean many things to many people. Growing up on Dukes of Hazzards the flag always meant rebellion. "I love the country just don't cross the citizens"- attitude. the question for me is When racism or other evils have invaded a symbol or art or anything what should be done with it. Mark Twain was edited, Then there was None got a new title, The confedrate flag is moving to a museum. I don't want the whole thing totally gone, because there are some good in the art or symbol or whatever apart from the bad, in this case racism.
T Myte I doubt it will be totally gone. Despite the best intentions of censors I don't think that the flag will disappear completely. In fact nobody is trying to make it disappear completely from what I understand. It is just being removed from government buildings which makes sense.
Donald Johnson The question is what should be done with things like the flag? The flag has racist stains on it along with good qualities, like rebellion (individualism), pride ect... Not just the flag but books to. And Then There were None, Tom Sawyer (edit from above), Tarzan... How should we deal with these? Censorship? Total removal? Put it in a museum as a "relic of the past? I don't know. Just asking
T Myte Yeah, I had a confederate flag when I was a kid because I liked the Duked of Hazard, but no way would I own one as an adult knowing what it represents to so many people. Not to mention at this point, I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I was a fan of that show. A blanket ban of anything with the flag on it by retailers and web sites seems unreasonable. Does that mean that now people can't sell a model of the General Lee on EBay?
T Myte While this would be a stretch for comparison. The swastika on the Nazi flag is also an example of a symbol that was taken and had its meaning corrupted leading to very different perceptions of the symbol between Europeans and Indians.
Pftt... I still saw flags on ebay when I just did a search. One flag was selling for $1k on there too which I imagine may be due to the ban? But the overall thing is this: Do you really harbor any harmful attitudes towards a race just because you like a flag or the Dukes of Hazard? More than likely no. Does the flag possibly stand for things other than racism for others? Very possibly yes. So should it be completely removed from the public eye? Nope. And nobody, to my knowledge, is trying to get that to happen. People are just trying to cover their ass for monetary and electoral reasons is my hunch. Once the collective consciousness forgets the boogey man that is the Confederate Flag because someone shot up another place while wearing a Kool-Aid man mask it will be just another blip on the tragic past of American violence. Then the flag will be safe again, whether for good or ill.
Ignorance is bliss... And PS I love the design of the rebel flag. Better than the Nazi flag which is just a good luck symbol with a twist to be the "unbeatable" and nothing else. Heck Jamaica uses a simular design etc. Too bad its been misused so badly. Oh well...
I don't think they left the USA because they hated it. I think they left because they were defeated in the war and wanted to start over. The best place where they could continue what was familiar to them (at the time) was in Brazil. As it turned out, they integrated well within the society there. This makes me wonder if the so-called Southern society and culture had been left alone (i.e. no war, reconstruction, etc) ... would there have eventually been an integration and assimilation such as what happened in Brazil. Could this have happened in the Southern US? We will never know what the alternative path could have presented.
The Confederacy wasn't just about owning slaves. It was about autonomy. They were states' rights extremists that didn't want a federal government's laws usurping their authority and having a say in how they lead their lives.
The confederados of southern Brazil number about ten thousand. At the time they arrived, slavery was still legal in Brazil. They are not racist. But there is racism in Brazil today.
I don't think they came here because there was still slavery. At the end of the 19th century the government was attracting agricultural people. They were receiving free land to cultivate. That's why so many Europeans and Japanese came, they were all agricultural people in their countries. According to a film I saw (granted, not history, just a Hollywood production), the South of the U.S. was scorched by the Northern army after the war despite that Lincoln speech about reconciliation.
I am happy for the flag to come off of government buildings. But civil war reenactments, museums and battlefields should all be allowed to fly it still.
Oh my God! I'm from Brasil and I did know that!!! Well, it is completely normal that kind of thing in Brasil, especially nowadays, sadly. We are having a right wing in Brasil getting stronger. Other thing, the brazilian people (most part of it) celebrates everything they can, they don't need to know the origin of it, theyb only need to know if they will have party (cerveja = beer and churrasco = barbecue). Santa Barbara do Oeste is the right name of this city, in portuguese, of course. And yes, Brasil was the last country to abolish slavery. Plus, São Paulo State is right wing!!!
Yeah make fun of a Brazilian people who just so happened to have ties to the former confederacy out of no control of their own. Also....Armenian genocide. Just throwing that out there.
My ancestors fought in many battles during Civil War, they served under General Stonewall Jackson's command, I'm not proud of anything about this conflict, except the loyalty and bravery of those who defended their families, their land and their freedom. Those couple of idiots journalists shown their ignorance laughing and offending us, trying to show us as a bunch of stupid people. Let me tell you one thing: You don't be able to discuss your own past as a nation, how do you dare to speak about a subject without seeking information about it? You should have more respect and consideration. US its not the center of universe, it is part of a bigger picture!
That's my city and I've been living in Illinois. How surprising I'm seeing this broadcast. Sta Bárbara d'Oeste (Saint Bárbara from West) used to hosts 700 american families from southern. There are many academic studies over this subject. The migrants left the US with the help of the King in 19ths (D. PEDRO II) in partnership with boat companies in the US. It was a business as it could be in all US. There in the new land they didn't succeed to recreate a confederate south state. Instead of that, the were "brazilianized", and just some debris of original cultural remains today, but highly disconnect with the US, bless to the God. Because, you know, we really know how to make a nice party.
It's another form of bigotry to assume Southern culture is Confederate and discriminatory. Southern culture is a culture of hospitality, celebration, art and agriculture. It is bothersome that people assume everyone in the South is racist and backwards. Trash comes out of everyobody's house, no matter where in the USA they live. A culture can be said to have been accomplished when other Countries celebrate it. I haven't heard of anyone on Earth celebrating North American culture at all. Not even North America.
Brazil? Damn, that is really The South!
Ha, wow can't get anymore southern than Brazil
South Pole
Dijon Mastered Oh yeah, I forgot how racist those penguins are
Dev CoolGuy Nahhh...penguins are not racist. Their skin embraces black & white. Good thing WHITE polar bear never made it to Antartica.
Dev CoolGuy umm Argentina, Chili, Uruguay. . and for different continents, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa are all more southern than Brazil. .
Brazil is maybe more diverse than US
Yep
How do you measure that? Where is your proof? Really, I'm asking for hard proof. I'd appreciate it.
P4to D0l4n would this be anywhere near Santa Catarina ? I know it, too, has a lot of German settlers. Especially after ww2
@@roadbully384 I'm descendent of german nazis. I live in Blumenau-SC.
@P4to D0l4n No, the index of whites in the state of São Paulo is 67% to 70%.
Why the hell does everyone assume that all brazilians have black ancestors? It really annoys me.
It annoys you because you don't want to have anything to do with them, right?
@@Guizambaldi
Or maybe she dislikes the assumptions ?
And even if she doesn't want anything to do with it, so what?
It is not longer a problem for this generation, especially in a non-racist country like Brazil
@@benjaminjackboot6409 Why would a non-racist person be annoyed if people think they have black ancestors?
@@Guizambaldi
Because people dislike being labeled with stereotypes?
I suppose at least, just like mexicans laugh off at the representation they got in cartoons in the USA during the 1950's, with those ponchos and very wide hats made with straw.
I love how they assume Brazilians are not "racist" and how they assume they all have African genes. lol I know Brazilians. Brazilians even have jokes about black people just like they do in the US.
Brazil keepin' it real.
***** dumb
I am brazilian
About 50,000 Confederates migrated to Brazil in the American Civil War
These people are just remembering their ancestors
just want to keep a tradition, it is not a crime
@@rodrigovonkluge4280 thank you as a southern man
I'm german nazi descendent.
I live on south of Brazilian.
@@michellebrown8988 Pelo menos não precisamos de uma guerra civil. O então embaixador americano disse: "Aqui as coisas são resolvidas pacificamente, não pela força". Quando a escravidão foi abolida, ele recolheu as flores que as pessoas haviam jogado e disse: "Vou levá-las para o meu país para que saibam como aqui se aprovou uma lei que lá custou muito sangue".
"so called culture" actually yes, Southerners have a culture
@@dreadedworld8864 Burn the real traitor flag
The antfia flag
@@unknown-dq6df and the British flag
Also I love you senpai George
JAJAJAJA America have culture?? All his culture all other countries culture that has been stealed by americans XD
@@tupapi1665 america has different cultures within it. That's what makes it special.
@@za.monolit JAJAJAJA This is the dumbest shit that i have ever read 😂😂😂
Most of the population of Americana is not mixed race. Doing a little research shows Americana is 85% white, 12%brown, 2,4% black. It's not atypical really for smaller cities and towns in Sao Paulo and other states south of there, which had German and Italian waves of immigrants in the later 1800's and early 1900's.The city of Sao Paulo in fact is the largest Japanese city outside of Japan. You guys should at least try to do some research and not just take some other article's details as fact.
True, we have japanese people and chinese people here in my municipality, they keep the family very close and they still visit the country of their grandfathers. But, White people and Black people alike mix, so you gotta know something before saying a specific region is "mixed" just cause there is a diverse demography. Would be the same thing as saying the US is more mixed than Minas Gerais or RJ, which isn't true.
I have ancestors who were Condederados, and I have researched them extensively. A lot of the information in this video is either inaccurate or simply made up. The Turks usually do better investigative reporting. I was disappointed.
This video was simply an editorial on the Confederate flag, with the word "Brazil" thrown in on occasion.
@Cerbone
That's kind of like asking if Americans are white, brown, or black. There are all colors of people in the USA, as in Brazil.
The descendants of the Confederados, however, would probably call themselves white-- even if they don't have much European left in them by this point.
@Cerbone Ah, I think you could just answer that by yourself. Do you think people would just consider white people brown cause the majority is brown? Or the other way around? Makes zero sense.
Being white in Brazil is NOT the same thing as being white in the US. Most white Brazilians are mixed race.
I think they don't realize Brazil has a city where only Japanese is spoken and also another city where only German is spoken... And etc... We're not all mixed up or black. 🙄
Es these people are idiots who nlknow nothing about Brazil at all
Don’t forget the dozens of Italian speaking city
Womp womp
Não tem intuito racista ou político, eles apenas celebram a sua herança 👏👏👏👏
Same as we do in the South! It's a different culture than the North. The Yankees just refuse to admit it.
Os estadunidense George Washington e Thomas Jefferson mesmo eles tendo sido proprietário de escravos
You guys still lost the civil war lol waving the flags of losers.@@johndry4313
@@johndry4313your culture involved slaves tho
Exato
I am all for this. An antique symbol of what was has been boiled down to the fun aspects. Love it. Forget all hate and move forward in the world.
Some will say you sound like a racist right winger.
We don't call ren fair people racist and they are doing the same thing.
Progressive people won't let you have any. I think, if you are one, you are a rarity
They just some good old boys never meaning no harm
@@supersprint22It's just a cultural festival, there's nothing fancy about it.
"The MOST racist" had to be the ones that left? I find it hard to be believe that people leaving the states had this as the sole reason.
My ancestors went to Brazil with this movement. They were financially devastated by the Civil War, and had been promised riches by the Brazilian Emperor, who wanted to recruit American ingenuity and talent for building his infrastructure and economy.
After spending less than a few years there, some of my ancestors returned. They realized they had been conned and missed their old life in the USA.
Brazil was full of diseases, strange insects & animals, snakes, jungles and jungle fevers, a language fee of them spoke, and no one of their own religion. (This impacted various things, like where they could get buried.)
Slavery had continued in Brazil, long after they returned. So it wasn't a loss of slaves that brought them back to the USA. The Turks here are very uninformed and ridiculously disingenuous.
@@anneahlert2997name the family it's cataloged I've done a little research on this
I was born and raised here in Americana, the city that was once a village founded by Americans, it was part of the city of Santa Barbara D'Oeste where this festival happens every year. The thing is, they celebrate the history of this place and the people who came here, nowadays there's nothing to do with politics, racism or any of that shit.
To achando que vc é de SBO.... rs
Ok racist
Yea, no that is not how that works. You can’t celebrate the a state like the confederacy without taking the added baggage
@@extatickiddo5714 You are keeping hate alive. Who is the monster? A confederate republic does not = slavery ever. Slavery is so common on this world that all peoples alive today are descended from slaves. Legally white slavery ended in 1967 in todays Turkey. I comment with all that because i dont think you understand just how much slavery defines us all in the modern world . If we keep on in our hearts we are slaves already . Besides those look like poor folks.. Poor folks cant have slaves.
no need to explain yourself for those two, unless you really find their job honest.
I'm pretty sure the people in brazil know about the racismo-flag relationship thing guys. We're not THAT dumb in latin america.
ikr. The condescending way they talk about us Brazilians and the citizens of the city of Americana is the is the real racism.
right... so people don't even know about our own history, and you think they know about American history.
they also don't seem to notice there are African Americans that celebrate the South and our history these guys are juts dumb Racists
@@joelmoore3469 WTF are you saying?
@@richardheikkila4146 seriously I said it right there in the comment there are African Americans in the South that celebrate the confederacy
doubt they're that mixed. most of them formed township in the southern part of Brazil, where the population today is over 80% white. whiter than the confederacy ever was.
@P4to D0l4n This is not true, most cities in São Paulo have 78% of its population white.
@KausaRockCom you are wrong. Confederates never came to Rio Grande do Sul, they stay in São Paulo.
Gauchos are consider cowboys ONLY because we have a similar culture to US cowboys, but our origens are completly different, in fact it dates way before civil war happen in US.
In Santa Catarina, 90,3% is white and in Rio Grande do Sul, 86%.
“White” in Brazil is completely different to being white in America. If these people have been there for that long, they’re definitely mixed with something.
@Trivago no most old stock white americans biologically are not fully white
Most are mixed race? No. Most of those Brazilians are still Caucasian exclusively.
Eric Connor have you been to brazil? i used to live in rio and went on several trips. there is a lot of diversity
Eric Connor HAHAHAHAHAHA! LIES!!
shadry86 Patrick DaMao *****
LOL. Apparently you guys aren't very observant when it comes to semantics. I specifically said THOSE Brazilians, i.e. the ones claiming Anglo-Saxon Protestant Confederate ancestry and heritage links to the southern United States. Obviously Brazil overall has a huge population of mixed race native Amerindians and whites, plus blacks. That doesn't negate the fact that there are plenty of people of purely Caucasian stock, as well as people of purely Amerindian stock and African genetic stock. Intermarriage over the centuries between these different racial groups has created a vast "Mestizo" mixed race population, but that doesn't necessarily apply to niche groups like these guys saying they have Confederate lineage. For that matter, there are plenty of white Brazilians who are obviously descended purely from Portuguese colonists from centuries ago.
Eric Connor Brasil s mosty multoes ((european and african ancestry) or African , BRASIL 2ND LARGEST COUNTRY WITH LARGEST POPULATION TO NIGERIA.the culture in brasil is pretty much like carribean feastives.even 39percent europeans a have distant african roots since portugal mix with moors,arabs and africans 800 years ago.
Eric Connor Alot of these europeans u talking about are meditrean its no way they are full cauasian these people are know for mxing with arabs,berbers,phonicans people
"The ancestors now being black"
No. Most of the descendants of the Confederates in Brazil are white, such as Rita Lee Jones, queen of Brazilian rock, Ellen Grace Northfleet, former minister of the Supreme Court of Justice, etc.
The young jurks don't care about facts
Agreed. The families who went there were not quick to intermarry with the local slaves. Their original racism actually kept them from being nearly as genetically and racially diverse as most of their nation.
@@anneahlert2997 That wasn't the main reason. The main reason is that the majority of the population of the cities of Santa Bárbara do Oeste and Americana, founded by the Confederates, is today composed of white Brazilians descended from Italian and portuguese, ethnic group predominant in the state of São Paulo and in the South of the country. So the descendants of the Confederates mixed with this white population and that's why they are still white.
The greatest example is the most famous descendant of the Confederates, the queen of Brazilian rock, Rita Lee Jones, whose father Charles Fenley Jones was of American ancestry and mother Romilda Padula was of Italian descent. To think that the majority of the Brazilian population in the Southeast would be "black" or "Brown" is laughable and only demonstrates the lack of knowledge of Americans with the basic geography of other countries.
Viva os confederados descendentes do Brasil! 🙏
Vidas negras importam
@@nascarcrashes6567 corrigindo: todos as vidas importam. ok gado da massa.
@@anonymousbrazil2.096 ok gado bolsonarista
@@nascarcrashes6567 🤣 não mesmo pequeno gafanhoto. não sigo os grupos de bovinos (lula e bolsonaro), só servem para atrasar o desenvolvimento do país e ainda prejudica o neurônio dos brasileirinhos que estão na faculdade. resumindo só quem ganha com falta de conhecimento e um povo sem conhecimento da sua própria história, são os políticos, e continuará assim presidente entrando e saindo sem resolver os problemas e com falsas promessas, se as pessoas não agregarem conhecimento e o poder que tem em suas mãos para mudar um país para melhor sem bandeiras e sem divisão entre grupos. enfim tenha um bom fim de semana para você meu caro.🤝🖐
vish cara, logo os confederados que lutaram pela escravidão. Falou bosta, certas coisas devem deixar de existir assim como os nazistas
Fuck yeah! Go Brazil! Fly that flag proudly!
connor muelrath Fuck America, why do we have idiots like you here?
@@tankdjsims or, why do we still have idiots like YOU here?
Ik im like 8 years late but
🤨🤨
Whitest southern comment ever
I am amazed and worried that such influential people (TV presenters) in America are so ignorant and in a way arrogant. They should get their facts right before talking a load of rubbish on TV. They seem only to focus on the negatives and scorn these people for taking pride in their southern heritage. They should feel ashamed of themselves.
Greetings from Virginia!
Thanks for keeping their culture alive in Brazil and remembering your forefathers.
The South will rise again!
🤝🏻
The south will rise again!🙌🏻
I'm not from the SP, but no prob!
@@phoenixmcneil494 idk, they had free black labor driving their economy the first, I don't know if they can "rise again" without it. 😆
They’ll rise again just to lose again, traitors didn’t even last 5 years
If the confederate flag is not a problem in Brazil, then it shouldn’t be a problem in the US.
Completely different dynamic.
The US has to many cultures to be dealing with that flag at this point let's keep it peaceful 😂
Unfortonatelly at Brasil we copy "american problems" that we dont have and dont need here like political correctness for example, racial cotes etc.
We have different problems and we nees our own solutions, not american solutions!
We have REAL problems to deal like starving rate, misery, poverty, sanitation rates, illiteracy, criminal rates etc, we dont have time to loose with fake problems or rich people problems like "gender issues, mixed bathrooms, pseudo racism and all of this bullshit!"
Do they fly that on any of Brazil's gov or state building? NO.
Excelent point!
Alan James no they did....
Brazil abolished slavery twenty years after the US did. I dont by the plea to ignorance
Alan James No, but they look like they are having fun. Im in!
It was in the city's flag
If you don't see there a racism then don't associate it that way.
They all get along and live together, they make families and live in piece.
They are totally different people and don't mean something bad with the flag.
It is Heritage not hate
it's hate not heritage
"Is this rio life?" I find it funny that some outsiders think that Brazil is just Rio de Janeiro. By the way, this party was in the state of São Paulo, just to be clear.
It's really odd to me that the lady in this video says that the brazilians really don't know that the Confederate flag stood for racism. But I bet at the same time she has no problem with celebrating American holidays under the American flag.
I wonder if she knows what the American flag stood for in those days. If she does not know, maybe she should go and speak with Native Americans and the Chinese.
Until Abraham Lincoln came into office, the north under the American flag, had slaves. The generals in the union army, under Abraham Lincoln did not enslave Native Americans, they just kill them instead. They drove them off of their land. Maybe she should read up of the history of what was done under the American flag.
How about the Chinese? they were enslaved by the United States government. who does she think built the railroads during that time.
Neither the Confederate flag or the American flag have a good history for protecting and showing love to their fellow human.
The link below is just one of the atrocities that were committed under the American flag around that time period. but if anyone clicks on this link, you will see that there were southern politicians that were against this brutal act against Native Americans. personally, I despise when people speak of things that they have no clue about. and for her to demonize one flag, she needs to demonize all flags and what happen under those flags.
By the way, I could careless about the Confederate flag. it is the point, that there are too many ignorant people in the world, but have no clue of true history and the b******* that every country on this planet has committed under their national flag.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
Arabia still has slaves..you going to cry about that?
Thats not the Confederate flag.
I Fly my Confederate Flag All The Time I wear my Confederate uniform all the time
I burn confederte flags all the time. The only thing the Confedrate flag should be used for is toilet paper
In the 1920s 30s 40s and 50s the Klu Klux Klan use the American flag first I don't see Nobody saying the American flag is racist there was just one slave ship that flew the American flag I Don't see Nobody talking about this
That town actually holds the only civil war cemetery outside the United States
My ancestors were some of the "Confederados" who went to Brazil after the Civil War. They were economically devastated by the War and the loss of slave labor, property, and crops. They had nothing. Basically, they were conned by the Brazilian Emperor at the time, who promised them mansions, ships, and more. The modern equivalent is moving your entire life based only on some memes or on a "get rich quick" infomercial. (Yes, it was foolish then, too.)
I have a diary of a young woman (Jennie Keyes) who went with her family and knew my ancestors. It's a fascinating read. She goes into great detail of her life and their journey.
Interestingly, she only rarely mentions the slaves, and almost never by name. She definitely interacted with some of the house slaves, but none of them were never human to her. She noticed them the same way she noticed the horses-- as simply a part of her life that needed no special consideration, that had no sentience of their own.
Her diary is a great window into the mind of enslavers of that era.
When the migrants arrived, they discovered diseases, language barriers, jungle fevers & animals, and many other hardships. They tried to remake their former Antebellum lifestyles, including social parties, plantations, and of course slavery.
Many (like some of my ancestors) were disappointed when they realized they had been conned, and came back to the USA, where they (finally) signed their post-war papers vowing allegiance and loyalty to the US govt.
They returned not because they were racist, but because they had gotten conned and missed their family and friends back home. (I also have letters written by Capt. Freligh, explaining his actions of the era.)
To me, this migration is no different than people in modern times who whine about wanting to leave the USA, because politics on one side or another is not going their way. It's the same psychology. But for my ancestors, it was also largely about being broke and being promised riches.
Others of my ancestors stayed behind. Today, they do not see the Confederate flag as a symbol of slavery, but as a symbol of their American heritage. (I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just what they see it as.)
I am disappointed with this video. Most Young Turks content is much more substantive. This video seems to just be a venting bash of the Confederate flag with the word "Brazil" thrown in on frequent occasion. Ana and Cenk both spew a lot of misinformation here. I'm very disappointed at their lack of research on such an interesting topic and their willingness to spew unchecked misinformation.
Side note for Genealogists: One seemingly small problem which helped to isolate the Confederados from the local population was religion. The dominant religion of the Brazilians was Catholicism, so many aspects of their lives were impacted. The Confederados could not be buried at the existing cemeteries, so they have special cemeteries for them there. (Genealogists investigating ancestors in this group should focus on those cemeteries.)
Brazil was one of the last nations to outlaw slavery. They did so in stages, freeing some groups of slaves, then others, then others. (Age, gender, etc were factors in when a person became free.) Brazilians like to brag that this method of freeing the slaves kept them from Civil War, but in reality, it allowed slavery to continue far longer than anywhere else.
Because they had slaves as late as the 1880s, Brazil offered some of the most powerful photographic images of slavery. Photography had become common enough towards that era, that there are many images taken of enslaved people at work and in bondage. You can see the humanity of their souls and the inhumanity they were forced to live under.
There is one striking image of a pair of slaves carrying a woman in a buggy, and one of the enslaved men looks boldly and defiantly into the camera. You can see his anger and his defiance, despite his bondage.
www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/11/12/244563532/photos-reveal-harsh-detail-of-brazils-history-with-slavery
Genealogy Note: My family surnames there are Freligh, Shippey, Wells, Doherty/Dougherty, Lumm, Hornsby, and Keep.
Well said. I agree with you. This video is so misleading
THERE IS ALSO THE CITY OF "AMERICANA" IN SAO PAULO AND I'VE BEEN THERE AND IT'S NICE. THEY ALSO WERE A LEADING PRODUCER OF TEXTILE.
yo, capslock.
I forgot to tell that Santa Barbara do Oeste is a city (not rural ok?!) from the São Paulo State.
I've been there for this thing and its hilarious!! There wasn't a racist person in the whole city!! Most of them, by most of them I mean almost every one of them don't even know hat the whole confederate thing is even about. I heard of them calling the confederate flag, the other American flag! I saw a black guy that barely spoke English dressed up like Robert E Lee and he even had a big white beard and the fried chicken was kick ass!!! I couldn't get enough of it. Then they had this what I think was white rum that was supposed to be moonshine! They all did that thing the Dukes of Hazzard did that was their version of the Rebel Yell and I saw a real old Days in 4 door car painted like the General Lee with what appeared to be house paint and put on with a brush and roller!! I don't think I have ever drank to the Confederacy any less than 100 times! it was really fun and I was sick for two days and everybody that I drank with called me Gringo Grande I guess Cuz I'm 6'4" I also bought a really awesome Confederate soldiers cap that I think the guy called it a cappy or was it a kepy or kepi I just looked at the receipt that was in the leather flap inside it and its says Kepi hat $
São cidades que foram fundadas por imigrantes conferderados Santa Barbara do Oeste, Americana e outras na região,são descendentes de confederados,como nos Estados Unidos da América nos Brasileiros somos uma nação multicultural temos festas Japonesas, Italiana, Alemã e etc.
Não é fazendo apologia ao racismo e sim comemorando algo historico que descende de familias que fundaram essas cidades.
esse pessoal da midia é progressista cagador de regra nem adianta argumentar
Just put the flags away man, it’s interesting history sure, so leave it at that. And put up a museum. Instead of having a festival that floats around a hate symbol.
@@natebox4550Hate symbol for you, not for them. Besides, that flag represents more than just that. Brazil also has a big history with slavery and hate, and the modern flag of Brazil is still basically the same as the one from those times, does it mean it's a hate symbol, NO!
I can fly mine since I’m not Racist?! Thanks TYT!
Absolutely sir, and great name! Lol
No need to ask
You can fly it, most will assume you are racist, though. Including me.
@@natebox4550 No not most actually, most in america still say southern pride according to cnn
@@SouthernGentleman southern pride for a point in your history that only lasted five years, you can have pride in the south. That’s fine, but don’t have pride in the worst point in southern history. A point in history in which the south seceded to keep slaves(main reason, there were smaller ones as well).
seriously anna that lipstick has to go
Anthony C - I think she looks great.
Anthony C lipstick on a sow doesn't change anything, its still a sow
DarthCipient Don't apologize...you could fit a whole salami in that thing.
Anthony C, Bullshit I like it and her too. She a cutie. Is she Turkish or what.
2015 and some Americans still believe that secession was because of slavery... LOL.
It was geography
Wow some people don't share Ana's irrational hatred for a flag, don't they know it's the current year?
You can smell the salt in this woman's breath.
I am from Europe and I don't see how difficult it can be to understand what those people are celebrating. They don't pay some black man over there to pretend to be a slave, picking cotton or being whipped during the celebration. And, I strongly believe how Southern culture exists and those people are taking where the first generation left it as they new it. Believing how Southern culture was all about racism and everyday life was revolving around whipping slaves makes no sense.
"A Brazilian amount of irony." I'm going to use that line from now on. I love it.
Eu mantenho-me com os confederados.
GOD BLESS THE SOUTHERN REBELS 💪💪
Over 80% of the military aged men in South Carolina at the time died in the Civil War. If they want to fly a flag, leave them alone.
Maybe they were not slave owners but since the entire south was burned to the ground. Maybe they were soldiers with PTSD looking for a fresh start
As brazilian I am laughfing my ass off
/:/
good for you brazil! keep on celebrating the southen american pride!!!
This is why education and history is so important
Brazil doesn't exactly have a good education system...
so...
This comment needs more thumbs up
jam rock Please, that's a different country. We in America seem to think of our culture as the pinnacle of world culture. We tend to think we are the world. These people probably don't give a damn what it means in this country. They have their own context and that's all that matters to them as it should.
Listen, Brazil was the last country in the west to abolish slavery in 1888, and believe me, they have dealt with slavery. They know what they are doing.
@@GrandmasterDinnerRoll and you know this how?
The errors in this are astronomical
Anna needs some help with her make up.....seriously :(
+TheyKNOWandYOUdont
I hope you're a girl...
Brazil also has a strong African culture.
Even if they understood I doubt they would care. Its a reason to have fun, it doesn't matter its origin.
based
A. Brazil has areas with very few black people. In fact, there are are areas of Brazil that do not have any white person with Portuguese ancestry at all, despite the fact that the nation was a Portuguese colony.
Southern Brazil is predominantly Italian in Sao Paolo, German in Santa Catarina and Rio Grande Dol Sul and East European (Austrian ,Polish,Ukrainian ,Russian ) in Parana.
Mixed Race Brazillians are predominantly in the North and North East. Americana is a town in Sao Paolo, automatically, meaning that its population is most likely predominantly White because Sao Paolo has very few mixed race people aside from the largest cities.
In fact, Americana is more like an American city in the1950s in terms of demographics.
Sounds like a great place to retire
@@jamesalexander949 sure, if u are white, bcause they are very VERY racist
BOYS FROM BRASIL!
The guy says obviously the flag means something else over there than it does here in America....
The flag does not mean the same thing to everyone in America.
In the 1980's, Georgia had the confederate flag in it's flag, and I believe South Carolina flew a Confederate flag over the capital. For many people who lived in the South, whites at least, the flag did NOT mean 'we hate black people.' Look at the Dukes of Hazzard TV show in the 1980's. An episode might have an anti-racist theme. The Duke boys would be clearly not racist and opposed to racism, yet they had the Confederate flag on their car. Many years later, there was a movie remake of the show where the mechanic had painted the flag on their roof without their knowing about it. They went to the city, people saw it, and reacted negatively to it. Back in the 1980's, the flag meant 'Southern Heritage', 'We are Southerners.' Yankees may never have quite figured that out.
Because many blacks and non-southerners found the flag offensive, it has come down off of state capitals and is rarely used. The KKK apparently still uses it, so many people have come to see it like a Swastika.
The Confederate flag was an actual national flag (the battle flag during a time of war), and these Brazilians were descended from people from that nation, and display the flag for a festival for people from that family lineage. Why would they think of it as a 'racist' symbol?
I honestly can't wrap my head around this. Their ancestors left and died for a stupid reason. I feel they know what they are celebrating... I just don't know if they know it's wrong.
mIchaela burton great point.
mIchaela burton Of course you can't wrap your head around it. You're a dumbass TYT viewer.
mIchaela burton Like the Mexicans that left a shithole, yet put Mexicans flags on their homes.
mIchaela burton hurr durr I will project America's culture in other country's culture and call it a day.
mIchaela burton the history of the bible and christianity. most christian don't have any idea about them, they think the book is wonderful and the religion promotes love. but wrong is a strong word. symbols have subjective meaning, that is what happens with the american flag in different parts of the world.
good on the Brazilians!
Know what the funny part about all this is those same people actually went on to do positive things like help with agriculture and educated freed slaves in the school they help build.
Not all brazilian have a jamal as a ancester, or a pocahontas
We must never forget the 7-1 destruction Germany gave Brazil in the WC hahaha.
Daniel Rodríguez Sánchez LEL
Daniel Rodríguez Sánchez i never thought that i would see that happen.
Greetings from São Paulo
My ancestry: 🇩🇪🇦🇹🇮🇹
*intense facepalming ensues*
Violent Rainbow anything is possible when you believe
So true bestie!!!
When you described what they do out there i was like wait.. they didn't have to move so far THAT'S WHAT TEXAS IS FOR! Seriously i live here they do that.
Ah,maybe the new, "Boys From Brazil" have a lot in common with the old Boys From Brazil.
I have nothing good to say.
Losers.
Typical liberal, think like me or you're a racist, bigoted, homophobic ass that hates the lbgtqxyz people
@@jamesalexander949 WTF.....
It's pretty mind-numbingly insulting to say that these people don't know the roots of their own culture.
well, they clearly don't, especially if they are celebrating their former terrorist ancestors.
My dad's from Santa Barbara D'Oeste hahaha Hello there americanos, I'm just passing by.
All 10,000 wre slave owners? How many people is the South were slave owners? So the 13,000 Mexicans that fought with them were slave owners as well, and the Cherokee Indians? Just asking..
LONG LIVE DIXIE LAND!
1815 Congress of Vienna condemns slavery and agrees on a gradual abolition of it
1851 Brazil abolished slave trade, and though it took until 1888 to abolish slavery altogether, it was a gradual, relatively peaceful, definitely more civilized, process with, in my opinion, a better long term outcome, that began ten years before the American civil war.
1964 Civil Rights Act overrules Jim Crow laws
February 7 2013 Mississippi Ratifies The 13th Amendment.
Brazilians are so done with racism some forgot their ancestor's history, how long is it going to take the US to get civilized?
When democrats stop using race as a way to stay in power
"That's so much irony, that's like a *Brasilian* amount of irony." I get you, Cenk.
Racism in Brazil is still pretty strong, but is subtle so people don't think it exists. But it's there alright.
A flag can mean many things to many people. Growing up on Dukes of Hazzards the flag always meant rebellion. "I love the country just don't cross the citizens"- attitude. the question for me is When racism or other evils have invaded a symbol or art or anything what should be done with it. Mark Twain was edited, Then there was None got a new title, The confedrate flag is moving to a museum. I don't want the whole thing totally gone, because there are some good in the art or symbol or whatever apart from the bad, in this case racism.
T Myte I doubt it will be totally gone. Despite the best intentions of censors I don't think that the flag will disappear completely. In fact nobody is trying to make it disappear completely from what I understand. It is just being removed from government buildings which makes sense.
Donald Johnson
The question is what should be done with things like the flag? The flag has racist stains on it along with good qualities, like rebellion (individualism), pride ect...
Not just the flag but books to. And Then There were None, Tom Sawyer (edit from above), Tarzan...
How should we deal with these? Censorship? Total removal? Put it in a museum as a "relic of the past?
I don't know. Just asking
T Myte Yeah, I had a confederate flag when I was a kid because I liked the Duked of Hazard, but no way would I own one as an adult knowing what it represents to so many people. Not to mention at this point, I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I was a fan of that show. A blanket ban of anything with the flag on it by retailers and web sites seems unreasonable. Does that mean that now people can't sell a model of the General Lee on EBay?
T Myte While this would be a stretch for comparison. The swastika on the Nazi flag is also an example of a symbol that was taken and had its meaning corrupted leading to very different perceptions of the symbol between Europeans and Indians.
Pftt... I still saw flags on ebay when I just did a search. One flag was selling for $1k on there too which I imagine may be due to the ban? But the overall thing is this: Do you really harbor any harmful attitudes towards a race just because you like a flag or the Dukes of Hazard? More than likely no. Does the flag possibly stand for things other than racism for others? Very possibly yes. So should it be completely removed from the public eye? Nope. And nobody, to my knowledge, is trying to get that to happen. People are just trying to cover their ass for monetary and electoral reasons is my hunch. Once the collective consciousness forgets the boogey man that is the Confederate Flag because someone shot up another place while wearing a Kool-Aid man mask it will be just another blip on the tragic past of American violence. Then the flag will be safe again, whether for good or ill.
My American friends if you guys get rid of the confederate flag don’t worry we’ve got you covered
Wow crazy I never knew this.
You usa don't nothing about Brasil
Ignorance is bliss...
And PS I love the design of the rebel flag. Better than the Nazi flag which is just a good luck symbol with a twist to be the "unbeatable" and nothing else.
Heck Jamaica uses a simular design etc.
Too bad its been misused so badly. Oh well...
Visually it is, I like Saltire flags. I like your design too
@@UFOhunter4711 thank you
Same with the Eureka Stockade flag in Australia. Ugh...
@@KangaKucha yeah that one bums me out, I like that too
I don't think they left the USA because they hated it. I think they left because they were defeated in the war and wanted to start over. The best place where they could continue what was familiar to them (at the time) was in Brazil. As it turned out, they integrated well within the society there. This makes me wonder if the so-called Southern society and culture had been left alone (i.e. no war, reconstruction, etc) ... would there have eventually been an integration and assimilation such as what happened in Brazil. Could this have happened in the Southern US? We will never know what the alternative path could have presented.
@@raffyleal are u racist?
The Confederacy wasn't just about owning slaves. It was about autonomy. They were states' rights extremists that didn't want a federal government's laws usurping their authority and having a say in how they lead their lives.
The Confederacy and the South are worth celebrating. The only places in the U.S where pride and heritage is valued.
"The whole concept of race is vague to begin with", utter nonsense.
Hell even Henry Ford froced American culture on his Brazilian workers...
Brazil is a big big place guys...
We should all honor this beautiful flag all over the world.
wrestlingbrian123 Honor traitors succeeding from the country and losing the war? No thanks.
Cookie Monster who doesn't have internet in America?
Troy Deggs you sir are wrong it is a anti union flag the confederate states of america were still considered americans
The union is all the "northern states" of which three still had slavery during the civil war
The confederados of southern Brazil number about ten thousand. At the time they arrived, slavery was still legal in Brazil. They are not racist. But there is racism in Brazil today.
you gotta love TYT's coloring book history
I don't think they came here because there was still slavery. At the end of the 19th century the government was attracting agricultural people. They were receiving free land to cultivate. That's why so many Europeans and Japanese came, they were all agricultural people in their countries.
According to a film I saw (granted, not history, just a Hollywood production), the South of the U.S. was scorched by the Northern army after the war despite that Lincoln speech about reconciliation.
Yes, and Sherman salted the fields
The south lost.. get over it..
Me as a Brazilian white guy , i do not agree with these ideals!
I am happy for the flag to come off of government buildings. But civil war reenactments, museums and battlefields should all be allowed to fly it still.
America is America. Where ever you are in the south or even if you're Mexican viva los cofederados.
America is not USA☝
GIGANTE BRASIL. GRANDIOSO BRASIL.
Cope, i am brazilian and i dont have i single black in my family, not all are mixed up.
Oh my God! I'm from Brasil and I did know that!!! Well, it is completely normal that kind of thing in Brasil, especially nowadays, sadly. We are having a right wing in Brasil getting stronger.
Other thing, the brazilian people (most part of it) celebrates everything they can, they don't need to know the origin of it, theyb only need to know if they will have party (cerveja = beer and churrasco = barbecue).
Santa Barbara do Oeste is the right name of this city, in portuguese, of course.
And yes, Brasil was the last country to abolish slavery. Plus, São Paulo State is right wing!!!
Yeah make fun of a Brazilian people who just so happened to have ties to the former confederacy out of no control of their own. Also....Armenian genocide. Just throwing that out there.
My ancestors fought in many battles during Civil War, they served under General Stonewall Jackson's command, I'm not proud of anything about this conflict, except the loyalty and bravery of those who defended their families, their land and their freedom. Those couple of idiots journalists shown their ignorance laughing and offending us, trying to show us as a bunch of stupid people. Let me tell you one thing: You don't be able to discuss your own past as a nation, how do you dare to speak about a subject without seeking information about it? You should have more respect and consideration. US its not the center of universe, it is part of a bigger picture!
The way this country is going down there. I have two ancestors that were with the Ninth Louisiana Infantry CSA.
2:13-2:21 top 10 Ironic IRONIC things on tyt history, everrrrrrrrr
That's my city and I've been living in Illinois. How surprising I'm seeing this broadcast. Sta Bárbara d'Oeste (Saint Bárbara from West) used to hosts 700 american families from southern. There are many academic studies over this subject. The migrants left the US with the help of the King in 19ths (D. PEDRO II) in partnership with boat companies in the US. It was a business as it could be in all US. There in the new land they didn't succeed to recreate a confederate south state. Instead of that, the were "brazilianized", and just some debris of original cultural remains today, but highly disconnect with the US, bless to the God. Because, you know, we really know how to make a nice party.
That set is looking good. I dig that desk.
It's another form of bigotry to assume Southern culture is Confederate and discriminatory. Southern culture is a culture of hospitality, celebration, art and agriculture. It is bothersome that people assume everyone in the South is racist and backwards. Trash comes out of everyobody's house, no matter where in the USA they live. A culture can be said to have been accomplished when other Countries celebrate it. I haven't heard of anyone on Earth celebrating North American culture at all. Not even North America.
I love cenks puns:)