One rock stops two trains
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2011
- I heard some scanner traffic where 4944 told the dispatcher he'd just had someone throw a rock at his windshield as he was leaving Liberal, Ks westbound. The rock shattered the engineer's side windshield and it was difficult to see through, especially heading west into the sun. The dispatcher contacted 8654 west who was behind 4944. 8654 was a Ztrain with a 2x1 setup and the dispatcher asked if his second unit was facing forward. 8654 said it was, so it was decided that 4944 would stop at the first siding in Tyrone, Oklahoma and they would swap it with the Z train's second unit. The act of one vandal caused two crews to be delayed by over an hour and the line to be tied up during the change. the item handed from the cab at the end was a timetable and siding info booklet.
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I've been looking everywhere for this video!! I've been watching this since my childhood!! Truly amazing!
"Shattered windshield stops a train and the rescue train crashes into itself"
It would be fascinating to see where a container goes during its lifetime. All over the world I'm sure.
3:29...boy he SLAMMED into the train lol. but he can't really see lol.
+BBT609 Yup, there goes the other windshield!
Probably just pissed off. lol
BBT609 RIP coupler
I think they call that a collision.
Conductor did a terrible job slowing him down for an easy coupling 🤦🏾♂️
you could almost hear the Homer Simpson "DOH" when he bumped..
Had a Driver (Engineer) I worked with turned into a cabbage by children throwing bricks at locomotives near Leeds (UK), spent his final years like that and never recovered.
I often wonder these days if those children and there uncaring parents ever knew what they had achieved for that moments amusement.
+James Edwards Was this made public (news media) so the children learned the harm that they unintentionally did?
Sorry to hear...
Ah man... They threw a rock at an SD70M.
that slam when that train hits the front of the consist rocks that front cab😂
look carefully everyone. The SD70MAC's windshield is damaged at 0:38 along with the opened door through the first few seconds of the video from 0:00 to 1:32. But the brand new SD70ACE is seen at 0:00-0:59, 1:56-4:14 and 4:55-7:34 which is undamaged and stopped to help, and engine 4077(SD70M) is the replacement engine for 4944(SD70MAC) with the broken window!
*****
oh yeah, those ones look simular
Man,what an unforunate situation,hope they find the person that threw the rock.
STOPPING THE TRAIN IN GTA 5: CAN A ROCK STOP IT???
yes
It's why we have video games in the first place.To stop idiots doing this stuff in the real world :D
Grifimus No
Putting anything on the train tracks is a federal crime
Max Villa obviously have no clue what the comment meant you replied to...
I wonder how many tens of thousands of dollars were wasted because of the actions of one cretin?
not any. maybe 10s of dollars.
Brett Graham Try learning a little about transportation costs in these times before automatically dismissing such things.
Stopping trains needlessly affects more than just the individual train itself.
Brett maybe not because trains are worth a LOT of money.
+Kevin S i admit defeat and i thank you for the newfound knowledge my friends. respect.
+Brett Graham probably alot for a new train window for than 10s of dollars
That is a hard slam recoupling to that Z train. Very abrupt. lol
Wow no kidding... whiplash anyone?
Anything under 5mph is acceptable for pinning
@@MasterTech58 under 4. But 4 with light power is pretty firm.
Gotta say I love the number on the loco that replaced 4944.
Anyone else a fan of M*A*S*H?
+AdmiralCreideiki That engine has asterisks done with a sharpie between the numbers on the inside of the cab. The only reason I know that is because I'm the one that did it.
AdmiralCreideiki that would be 4077
LITERALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE REPLACEMENT CAME IN ME WITH MY ADHD SELF STARTED THINKING ABOUT MASH AND WONDERED IF THWRE WAS A TRAIN NUMBER 4077 AND THEN IT HAPPENED.
You caught that too!! What is the chance of seeing this loco?
What is it about railroads and their operations?
Watching this stuff makes me feel like a 7 year old all over again.
BollocksUtwat i know what you mean.. i have a decent trainz simulator... and im like model railroading and that program are silly and a waste of time boring.... so boring.... but they look so cool.... the i fi d myself all into them again... these videos help the spark..... maybe itll make me want to play my game hAha
Is English your second language?
BollocksUtwat zv
Two rule violations so far... Employees must not ride lower rungs of ladder or car over road crossings. Brakeman failed to 'stretch' the hook when coupling back against his train. We won't tell anyone!!!
P*Funk nn
What’s funny is that this video is still being recommended ten years later. Really goes to show how the algorithm works!
3:27 that SD60 in the rear hit the intermodal HARD and the SD70 bounce lol
Both SD70s no 60s
On the old BCR in Canada,(formerly the PGE-Pacific Great Eastern), we had similar problems. Locals would place ties across the rails along with fish plates and tie-plates and wire them down, in the hopes of derailing a train. I invite Engineers and brakemen to share their stories with us. It's something the Public -at-large , needs to read and hear about! You never know if you are going to get home safely!
Yeah we were taught by parents and school teachers to stay away from the train tracks, which means that if you screwed up some thing, and the neighborhood rumors came back,,, YOUR BUTT WAS BUSTED,,, BY DAD,,, NO IF MAYBES,,,, Dead beat PARENTS TODAY
I loved it.. I love the sound these big babies make.. My hats off to the men who run these engines...
There is another video of a young man who threw a rock at a train, it ricocheted, hit him and knocked him out with an arm and leg over the track. He lost his arm, leg, and some fingers. I think it was part of a series of clips from Australia showing the trauma the engineers suffer when their train hits a pedestrian or vehicles with fatalities.
One thing I’ve learned working for UP is an Intermodal train is only classified as a “Z” train (ZNPOA-09 for example, the train symbol) if it is carrying one or more UPS or FedEx Trailers. Other wise it is only an “I” (Intermodal) Train (ILAG3-11 for example)
ITS CRAZY HOW JUST 1 tiny ROCK CAN STOP 2 TRAINS!
Ryan Wickes,
"...tiny..."
Reminds me of the guy that wore a 5.56/.223 bullet on a thong around his neck. Had done his tour in 'Nam and when asked what the bullet was for, said it was to remind him how little it takes to fuck up your whole life ...
True
That's some great teamwork on the crew's part!
he's telling me I did a good job of filming the incident
Neat video and great quality and shooting. The engineer on that Z-train must've been feeling the pressure to get rolling judging by that hard coupling. If you look closely, you can actually see the Isolated cab of that ACe jumping in a different plane than that of the nose. I didn't know those cabs could move so much. And the smoke from that -9 was nice to see. Just like GE's of old. Great video!
Awesome catch, it looked like EMD SD70ACe #8629 and SD70M #4944 hit those intermodal cars pretty hard when recoupling
I'm sure it's a federal crime to throw anything at trains
I would guess it carries the same penalties as causing mischief on an airliner. The penalties are pretty heavy up here in Canada at least with $75000 fine plus up to 5 years in a federal prison. You can bet it's more serious down there in the US.
yea you don't want to get caught doing something like that in the us lol, we give out insane fines for some of the smallest thing's lol
Only IF the thug is caught which is real unlikely, chances are it was some teen thugs playing one of their so called "pranks" as the media calls it
Except in the case of a juvenile their name doesn't even get published and they can KILL someone and basically get a slap on the wrist and be out of jail age 18
Can i throw air at trains?
That was a hard coupling at 3:24!
+CPWindsorsub About as bad as the one at 5:22.
+SMOBY44 You could definitely tell the crews wanted to get the hell out of there asap lol.
***** Agree. Awesome to see a 200 ton locomotive jump like that. Wonder what the cab view was like.
SMOBY44 Lol. I thought the cab came off of the SD70ACe at first.
+CPWindsorsub Lol
The trailing locomotives can point in either direction. The last one in the set, if positioned correctly, should point "backwards" so when the set gets to the terminating point for the train, the set does not have to be "turned", which saves a little time. Some terminals don't have a "wye" or turntable so the inbound set is just moved to the next train, and the set is positioned correctly.
Love the way the diesel engines sound. Especially at night. You can here it for miles
thanks for sharing, that sd70ace backed into his train aweful hard, saw the entire engine jolt. awesome to see how maneuvers like this are performed.
I agree. He really slammed into that thing. the crew mustve gone flying across the locomotive cab!
Damn, he must have been pissed. He hit those cars hard as hell at 3:30.
at first i was thinking a large rock was in-between the 2 tracks so it "stopped" two trains,,, but someone crashing a windshield with a rock can clearly tie up 2 trains, as they SWITCH the engines out,,, nice vid and complete story as well
Your videos are really great and fun to watch! I enjoy your railroad videos after a long day at work. Please post more.
Neat catch Jim, GSR sure does have alot of nice crews and always fun to see power swaps. 5*****
thanks for the nice compliments. I'm sure the engineer wished his coupling would have been a little smoother since he knew he was on cam.
Was it just me or when the Z locos were hooking back up, did he slam that coupler a little hard?! The whole lead loco bobbed like a dolphin!
I wonder if the guy inside got whiplash! It made the locomotive stop pronto!
Yeah, he's not a switch yard engineer and he didn't have a ground guide to watch his approach. He isn't very good at hooking up without eyes on the ground, for sure!
The train was like"Owwww!! That hurt!!"
JakesGP35 Nice troll...
I'm sure he was just testing the suspension
Good god when 8654 & 4944 coupled to the Z-train. They really shook.
That was some rough coupling at 3:30!!! BAM!!!
Very kind conductor there at the end.
3:24 - coupling was brutal. He was def over 7 mph for that coupling. My dad is a retired engineer and have said that the safest coupling is at 3 mph, to avoid damaging or even breaking a coupler. Anything faster and you risk damaging a coupler.
5:20 - was the picture perfect way to couple.
@8:48 Dash 9 is like here u go EPA!
emall low lol
GE = Garbage Engines
DeserT BoB not all are garbage
Just some are old and are starting to give out
EPA is Trash
it's trying to Channel the ghost of ALCo
3:25 Slowly, slowly, slowly.....OUCH!
Thanks for the nice compliment. I recently moved and hope to get started making some more videos.
Back in the late 70's just west of Omaha we had a bucket of white paint dump on us from a overpass .. we just traded out with a trail unit... lucky..
Very professional footage; nice work!
It means put the brakes on in maximum (emergency)position. It makes reference to the size of the port on the air brake control valve. This is a very old expression among rails.
This is an AMAZING video. great channel.
I agree, he hit it harder than he expected to. BTW, I don't think UP ever bought any SD70M-2s. I believe theirs are all ACe's. Thanks for watching :)
Damn! That lash-up after the engine swap was a little harsh. Sheesh!
As we would say: " That'll do when you get her stopped. " One very hard coupling indeed.
You're safe under 5 miles an hour. But yeah, I bet these crews were pissed right the fuck off in the first place (I know me and my engineer would be) and were tired of needless fucking around because of vandals.
He dropped me an expired book showing the sidings and their lengths for this division. The UP crews on this sub have always been pretty cool to me :)
Why on Earth would anyone even think of doing that?
At the very beginning I read, 'A liberal threw a rock' haha...Thanks for the vid!...
nice video aj and great catch up all the up train's in your video.
I'm sure you're right on that. It was the fastest way to get the mhnep back in business. The Z train was stopped for about 40 minutes, which is very rare.
Thanks for commenting, It surprised me as well, I'd have been way too chicken when I was a kid to try anything like that!
Thanks for your comment. I suspect the vandals were way more garden-variety than any terrorist sect :) The engineer was not happy when it happened. It's the first time in 5 years I've ever heard of such a thing around here. Oh well, I thought it might make an interesting video.
yes, I think he was surprised when he realized his reconnect wasn't exactly graceful. Of course he's probably smooth as silk when the camera's not on him!
Welp instead of using the phrase "hitting 2 birds w/ 1 stone" I will say "delaying 2 trains w/ one rock
Nice catch with smooth pan and zooming!, very nicely shot.
Cheers Gregg
Geez, both couplings were hard.
5:22 oww! Unfortunate for the engineer of 4944, some teen probably delayed everything by around 3 hours.
I saw something like this happen once with a Norfolk Southern coal train in the early 1990s. The two trailing units were facing rearward. It didn't seem to phase the crew any, they ended up having the second unit run "elephant style" ( long hood forward ). It has been a long time since I have seen a C-39-8.
Elephant style is when all the locomotives are facing forward, not LHF.
@@everettrailfan I find it funny that this comment should get a notification 8 years later. The classical definition of what was "forward" was entirely different on Norfolk Southern for the first decade of its existence and throughout the history of the Southern, and Norfolk and Western than what what most railroads defined as "forward." Referring to the my original comment mentioned above, on the C-39-8 the long hood was designated as forward, and thus qualifying running elephant style.
Chris R. Toth has a book called "Norfolk Southern Diesel Locomotives" ( ISBN 188308914X ) that shows a picture of I believe two C-39-8 running long hood forward with a caption of "running elephant style". Being that I'm on the road at the moment and won't be home for several months, I can't cite the specific page number, or link you to a scan of that page, but if you go to his FB page, NSDash9 DOT com, and mention this particular book, Mr. Toth I'm sure would be more than happy to share with you that specific page and caption with you.
We can debate the meaning of elephant style, but it is generally assumed to mean in a uniform direction - circus elephants trunks grabbing tails, or as the military would say, "@$$es to belly button."
Never a dull moment in the Dispatch Center.
Right place and right time for you. Nice narrative and editing.
Bill
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Had some kids throw a rock at me one time in a SW1200 and 15 loads, I was going about 15 mph,
I grabbed a hand held radio, bailed off the engine on the firemans side (Conductor thought I'd lost my mind) told him on the way out (You're runnin' now!) bailed off in a run BACK on the other side of the train, and CAUGHT the kids riding the side of the grain cars!
Hay there I just stumble on to the video great stuff love the smoke show at the end and very proud to be a subscriber also!!
+Carmichael Train Production Channel 327 Thank You very much!
I hope they find that dips**t and nail him with the expense of the replacement windshield as well as a hard fine
And they should've also made whoever did it pay for the wasted time. Especially if it made the trains late.
I have to say you really did a good job filming the scene
Thanks for the compliment!
Pretty hard coupling at 5:15 as well...the front of the loco "jumped", when it coupled up. Hard get those baby's to "hop"...!
Quite a bump for that locomotive crew at 3:29
my mother told me about when someone in our family put rocks on the tracks and had one of those pump cars tip over.
Did you notice at the 5 minute mark that there is a person about 20 feet off of the track hiding in the ditch?
Great video. Thanks
I was talking about the locomotives behind the leader one, anyway you answered my troublesome queston, Thanks a lot.
Great video, thanks.
Vandal should be happy I did not see him/her! Tire tracks would be all the found.. Nice video, glad to see someone using a tripod and not freehand.. Very nice..
Hi Phil Swift here for Flex Tape Clear!
cool upload. ya know, I'm almost certain that I've seen 4077 up here in northern Illinois. i live by the union Pacific line too.
UP diesel: exists
Rock: im gonna stop you right there.
There are two windshields in the locomotive. Why not use the other side? **I was just informed that the controls are not the same on both sides so I was wrong and have deleted my previous comment**
Engineer's controls are on the right side only - facing forward. The conductor on the left side has a horn button, emergency brake lever and speedo. The loco cannot be driven from the left side.
AJ67901 I stand corrected. Thank you for info. I'll edit my post.
but still the guy on the other side if there is one can tell them to slow down, stop, red light, train coming, etc
Since lacmagantac it has been illegal to to run a locomotive without a conductor. Even if the conductor could tell the engineer to slow down (which we do) what use would it be if the engineer was deceased or injured? We are trained to operate locomotives and do so on occasion.
Two Trains, One Rock.
Whoever threw that rock has NO respect for Class I, II or III railroads!!! This will NOT be tolerated!!!!
@BNSF7776 Thanks Sylvester, I had to see if I'd forgotten how to shoot video. This was a good subject to get back to it. The crews are great on this line for sure!
I’m assuming the incident happened about a mile down the track.
I'm sure the person who threw the rock was never caught nor punished...
They should’ve just used the old procedure for a problem with a freight train. Stick 844 on the back.
The z train is one of the biggest money makers for UP. When that thing gets delayed, the executives in Omaha know about it right away. Bet they weren't too happy about this!
Two trains with one stone
Awesome !! Nice video, subscribed to your channel ! The GE loco was smoking a lot !
Thank You, for a video I didn't think was a big deal, it has the most views of any I've done. Thanks for the Sub, I hope to get out and catch some new EMD tier 4s soon and post another video or two.
Seems like it'd be worth it to make the screens field-replaceable, and carry a spare on the loco. Sucks to have to think of stuff like that, but there will always be childish jerks with rocks.
Normally the crews keep going to their destination unless it is really smashed.
I thought these windshields are suppose to be rated to stop .22 bullets and cinder blocks
the windshield performed as expected and remained intact, it was just impossible to see through with all of the cracks, especially heading west into the sun.
wait they're actually small arms proof!?! for what exacly? besides shit thown at them
review some bullet resistant glass videos and you'll see that they all break and have spiderwebs. The clear plastic membranes between the layers of glass keeps any projectiles from penetrating. This windshield held its integrity and did not collapse into the cab, but its visibility was compromised and it was not legal to proceed with it in that condition.
they fracture just the same. They just don't shatter into pieces. Check how bulletproof glass works.
Brandon Oreto they added the, dead man switches at least if an engineer passed out or something... when the buzzer rings , and they dont hit the i am alive button, the train stops. its still a runaway until that happens though
A locomotive can go just as fast either direction. However, the engineer's seat on a forward facing locomotive is on the right side and closer to the head end where he can get a better view of the way ahead, including signals. If the lead locomotive were reversed, he would be on the wrong side of the train and would be "driving backwards".
Dang, that AC4400 is smoking.
Big SLAM at 3:30!
If I didn't know any better, I would have thought they had an ALCO on that train! Great video! What kind of tripod do you use? I need a new one and yours seems to pan very well.
Excellent video and audio
Thank you!
You gotta love it when Dwayne Johnson gets in the way of your trains.
Fuck you
great vid and good narrative. good work.