It is no secret that we both love the team at UVI and their products. I can not go without Falcon ever again. Your videos are so top notch that somehow your subscriber number should tenfold before the end of the year.
Thanks Ray, that means a lot. Since I'm only a part time UA-camr, I don't get the traffic that the big boys get, but I'd rather spend the time to put out a good video rather than multiple videos a week.
I had to read up on him when I first bought SA2. I remember pulling up that synth from the hardware menu and thinking, 'what the heck is a Yusynth?" A couple of those patches are actually my favorites. I didn't know he worked with Arturia though. I've got a few of their softsynths and a Polybrute sitting next to me which I don't play enough.
Yeah, the number of synths in SA4 is staggering, but in reality, you're only getting a slice of each one. I have a Korg Triton and really the Triton patches in SA4 barely scratch the surface of that synth and I don't think they reflect on how good of a synth it really is. The Arturia Polybrute patches in SA4 though are really good and seem to compare well with the hardware version though.
Thanks Randall. I have not posted any of my music yet. Long story, but mostly I have not because I see the current space as a way for big companies to make money off the backs of musicians. You either get so little amount of money per stream or you pay them $x per year in the hopes of maybe breaking even, but likely not. I will probably eventually put together an album or two, but it’s more of a long term goal. Right now the goal is to just grow the channel. I have written and mastered pretty much any music you do hear on the channel, so if you like something let me know. Always appreciate your feedback.
I have both, but they are slightly redundant. SA4 has a lot of modern synths that VV4 doesn't cover and all the upgrades with the UI and the proximity explorer were worth it to me. I only have VV3 and I chose not to upgrade to 4 when it came out. I'll probably upgrade to 5 when they revise it in a couple of years though. Between SA3 and VV3, I probably use them both about the same but I love synths, so if you really like synths, then I think you'll probably like it.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Thank you so much for your response. I shied away from getting SA3 several times because of having VV4, but I love the new interface of SA4 so that might have finally pushed me enough to pick it up. That and the Venus Theory patches alone sound incredible. Great intro price as well.
@@markstockdale i have VV4 and was wondering the same...seems good to have another quick sonic palette to choose from similar to arturia's analog lab or wanting to quick fill some sounds to an existing track
Yes. It's a shame when a company is bought out and then gutted. I don't think that will happen with UVI, but you never know. Pro Tools users on the other hand are probably pretty concerned with that recent buyout.
I am still waiting for an email from UVI to explain the situation and put my mind at ease. I love them more than any other sound developer but they should not change what they do for the corporate greed.
Glad you liked it. No AI voice for me. I have a certain reverb issue in my studio currently so I use a de-verb plug in. Sometimes though, it does weird things with my voice. Thinking of switching back to a dynamic mic instead of a condenser which would probably help but not quite willing to shell out the dough for a EV RE20 yet.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 hell yeah. very cool that must be it. dope to hear wasn't being too sus and offensive and my elf cat hearing wasn't wrong. and hope image line takes note - you inspired me to purchase respek
Absolutely. The new synths are great. I really like the cobalt and argon synths from Modal. The proximity explorer is also excellent. Totally worth the $50.
So, being new to UVI, you either need Workstation or Falcon to use this, correct? Sort of like using Kontakt instruments? I see that Workstation is free. What is the benefit of getting Falcon, just to use SA4? Do you lose anything by just using this with Workstation? Curious what your thoughts are and thank you for the detailed video.
You can use workstation and you don’t lose anything. SA4 is a great introduction to UVI products if you don’t own any. For the amount of stuff you get, it’s super cheap. It is definitely like Kontakt except that Falcon is way more powerful than Kontakt for sound design purposes. Falcon also has a somewhat steep learning curve, but well worth the time investment if you are at all interested in sound synthesis and effects. I think it’s worth it even if you just use Falcon to add effects to other UVI instruments because there are over 100 to choose from and they rival pretty much anything else on the market in terms of sound quality. Hope that helps.
Falcon is absolutely incredible, there is virtually nothkng it can't do. If you find something they have a range of add-ons that will probably remedy that. Workstation is little more than a hub for playback of such devices as SA4. If you are financially in a position to get it you should, you won't be disappointed.
I have a question or two. Unlike synth emulation software, I hear tha UVI has recorded the actual analog synths (where they are Analog, but you get it) so that the synths' sounds would be like hearing the synth itself, broadcast through speakers. Dead-on for all practical purposes. I don't know a lot about sampling, but.... When starting with, say, a Waldorf Q preset, and you manipulate the patch with UVI's UI, I guess it still has the Q sound characteristics, right? 15 years ago, I owned 'em all. Within reason....I didn't own $25,000 CS 80; I owned a CS60, though. My ONLY point, to name but one: I owned a mint Andromeda. I still miss that one. In listening to some sort of Poor UVI reviews of MISSION 6 (like, could you TURN OFF the FREAKING ARP for 30 seconds?) I wasn't hearing the Analog Oomph and HEFT so much. So, I wondered: If someone chose awful presets to record, then, yeah, you're hearing the sound of the REAL synth, but its a sound you'd never hope to hear the real item make in the first place. So, being ignorant about it, I wondered if you could taking the settings Wherever...to your liking....and still have an Andromeda or A Microwave or whichever at the end of your noodling. I should go away and return once I've learned how to write One Line comments like everybody else.
Lol, your last sentence made me laugh. Yes, I agree that the limited amount of samples on some of these machines won't give you a full taste of what the machine can do. I have a Korg Triton and SA4 has only a handful of Triton samples and most of them are not really that great. Some of the pads I have on the actual Triton blow away a majority of the soft synths that I own too. I also have a Polybrute and the Polybrute samples in SA4 are really good and I feel like they captured the essence of that machine really well. I guess I would say that it's not a perfect situation and some of the samples are better than others. I tend to favor samplers over the digital versions of specific hardware like Arturia's V Collection and PianoTeq's model though. I think as good as those pieces of software are, they are still missing that oomph that you talking about. Pianoteq in particular feels like its missing something when I use it.
Se in @@arcticfoxstudios2018 Thanks for ghtful reply. I GET IT when I buy a spitfire library or 100 people bowing violins. You play your keys and hear them play. Key switches handle the articulation changes and keys up top--maybe--bow noises, chatter, whatever they choose to record. Zimmer piano a good case in point---a lot of content of him basically manhandling the piano bench, the LID on the grand and OTHER. Kind of silly. When Omnispere man did Keyscapes, it's like 160 GB or some thing. I mad that up, but , it's BIG ASS. Anyway, my point is a complex SYNTH is as variable as 14 different types of pianos. So, it's $149, it covers 200 synths or whatever,, so it's gonna be like the HARDWARE LIBRARY that Omnisphere Man (same man, I know....name escapes me) did...the D60 got like 10 or 20 presets. Of course, HE (Eric P.) was trying to integrate OMNIS. with folks who OWN a D50. OK, I"m going to slink ack to my cage now. I'll say this: THEY are close now, but....the day will come when enumeration is indistinguishable from the real BUTTER. IN a mix, it's already there. And the guys....SAMPLEMODELING...their horns are as REAL as real gets. Best thing, I guess is: win the lottery and buy all the damned synths again...
Anyone else notice many patches have insane cpu usage and require very high buffer size or else there is crackles? Every other libarary i own whether NI, UVI or Arturia ive never had this issue. Its a shame cause I love the sound of this library
Quite a few actually. I was going to add a 'and girls' blip on that clip I used from the boys but just forgot because I ran into a bunch of rendering issues with DaVinci Resolve. And, once you upload a video to UA-cam, it's pretty much impossible to make any changes like that which really sucks. Thanks for watching.
It is no secret that we both love the team at UVI and their products. I can not go without Falcon ever again. Your videos are so top notch that somehow your subscriber number should tenfold before the end of the year.
Thanks Ray, that means a lot. Since I'm only a part time UA-camr, I don't get the traffic that the big boys get, but I'd rather spend the time to put out a good video rather than multiple videos a week.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Just stay true to your own values, the right viewers will come.
SUCH temptation! Thank you for the look on this baby. I've been on the fence for weeks. Love your synth dives!
The nice thing is that UVI has a lot of sales, so you can sit on the fence for awhile.
You deserve way more recognition and followers.
Thanks. Glad you liked the video.
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Upgraded to this almost immediately after it was released. UVI is simply amazing and your presentation captures that perfectly!
Thanks Beatles. Glad you enjoyed the video. I did the same and bought it the day it was released.
This is way better than I expected, really inspiring. Immediately started two new songs.
Awesome.
YuSynth are 5U format modules by Yves Usson. He has also worked on developing hardware synths with Arturia.
I had to read up on him when I first bought SA2. I remember pulling up that synth from the hardware menu and thinking, 'what the heck is a Yusynth?" A couple of those patches are actually my favorites.
I didn't know he worked with Arturia though. I've got a few of their softsynths and a Polybrute sitting next to me which I don't play enough.
You did an amazing job with this video. I was already saying "comprehensive" in my head and then you hit us with the cost per preset table 🤯
Lol, thanks. It’s the engineer in me. Makes me tend to over analyze everything. Glad you liked the video.
Best review of SA4 yet. Thanks!
Thanks Fleer. Glad you liked it.
I love how you showed the ATC-1. I have the real thing and would love to see how the UVI version compares.
Yeah, the number of synths in SA4 is staggering, but in reality, you're only getting a slice of each one. I have a Korg Triton and really the Triton patches in SA4 barely scratch the surface of that synth and I don't think they reflect on how good of a synth it really is. The Arturia Polybrute patches in SA4 though are really good and seem to compare well with the hardware version though.
Thanks, great review👍
Thanks. Appreciate the positive feedback.
Another outstanding review. Where online can we find your musical creations?
Thanks Randall. I have not posted any of my music yet. Long story, but mostly I have not because I see the current space as a way for big companies to make money off the backs of musicians. You either get so little amount of money per stream or you pay them $x per year in the hopes of maybe breaking even, but likely not. I will probably eventually put together an album or two, but it’s more of a long term goal. Right now the goal is to just grow the channel.
I have written and mastered pretty much any music you do hear on the channel, so if you like something let me know. Always appreciate your feedback.
Great review. Is this worth grabbing if you already own Vintage Vault 4? It’s nice but seems like maybe unnecessary?
I have both, but they are slightly redundant. SA4 has a lot of modern synths that VV4 doesn't cover and all the upgrades with the UI and the proximity explorer were worth it to me. I only have VV3 and I chose not to upgrade to 4 when it came out. I'll probably upgrade to 5 when they revise it in a couple of years though.
Between SA3 and VV3, I probably use them both about the same but I love synths, so if you really like synths, then I think you'll probably like it.
Nice acoustic in your pic BTW.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Thank you so much for your response. I shied away from getting SA3 several times because of having VV4, but I love the new interface of SA4 so that might have finally pushed me enough to pick it up. That and the Venus Theory patches alone sound incredible. Great intro price as well.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Thanks! Old Taylor 14 series (514?...can't remember) with a maple back and sides.
@@markstockdale i have VV4 and was wondering the same...seems good to have another quick sonic palette to choose from similar to arturia's analog lab or wanting to quick fill some sounds to an existing track
T a m b e r s is the way timbres is pronounced. Excellent review!
Thanks, I probably pronounce Moog and celeste the wrong way too, lol.
This plugin was $80 on release for FL studio users...
That's a steal!
As a very happy ableton user, I hope Image-line owning UVI never becomes a problem...
Yes. It's a shame when a company is bought out and then gutted. I don't think that will happen with UVI, but you never know. Pro Tools users on the other hand are probably pretty concerned with that recent buyout.
I am still waiting for an email from UVI to explain the situation and put my mind at ease. I love them more than any other sound developer but they should not change what they do for the corporate greed.
I don't think they're going to change anything, they stand to gain more money by keeping their products available for all DAWs
Cool review thanks. Though is the voice text to speech / machine learned? Sounds robo at times.
Glad you liked it. No AI voice for me. I have a certain reverb issue in my studio currently so I use a de-verb plug in. Sometimes though, it does weird things with my voice. Thinking of switching back to a dynamic mic instead of a condenser which would probably help but not quite willing to shell out the dough for a EV RE20 yet.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 hell yeah. very cool that must be it. dope to hear wasn't being too sus and offensive and my elf cat hearing wasn't wrong. and hope image line takes note - you inspired me to purchase respek
As a Falcon 2.8 and SA 3 owner, is it worth upgrading? Great video, Thanks
Absolutely. The new synths are great. I really like the cobalt and argon synths from Modal. The proximity explorer is also excellent. Totally worth the $50.
thanks . my upgrade discount ends tomorrow, so a well timed recommendation!
@@arcticfoxstudios2018
So, being new to UVI, you either need Workstation or Falcon to use this, correct? Sort of like using Kontakt instruments? I see that Workstation is free. What is the benefit of getting Falcon, just to use SA4? Do you lose anything by just using this with Workstation? Curious what your thoughts are and thank you for the detailed video.
You can use workstation and you don’t lose anything. SA4 is a great introduction to UVI products if you don’t own any. For the amount of stuff you get, it’s super cheap.
It is definitely like Kontakt except that Falcon is way more powerful than Kontakt for sound design purposes. Falcon also has a somewhat steep learning curve, but well worth the time investment if you are at all interested in sound synthesis and effects. I think it’s worth it even if you just use Falcon to add effects to other UVI instruments because there are over 100 to choose from and they rival pretty much anything else on the market in terms of sound quality. Hope that helps.
Falcon is absolutely incredible, there is virtually nothkng it can't do. If you find something they have a range of add-ons that will probably remedy that. Workstation is little more than a hub for playback of such devices as SA4. If you are financially in a position to get it you should, you won't be disappointed.
if you did a vid on favorite patches like SA3 that would be super cool
That would be. I can tell you I really liked the Polybrute and Modal Cobalt sounds.
I have a question or two. Unlike synth emulation software, I hear tha UVI has recorded the actual analog synths (where they are Analog, but you get it) so that the synths' sounds would be like hearing the synth itself, broadcast through speakers. Dead-on for all practical purposes. I don't know a lot about sampling, but.... When starting with, say, a Waldorf Q preset, and you manipulate the patch with UVI's UI, I guess it still has the Q sound characteristics, right? 15 years ago, I owned 'em all. Within reason....I didn't own $25,000 CS 80; I owned a CS60, though. My ONLY point, to name but one: I owned a mint Andromeda. I still miss that one. In listening to some sort of Poor UVI reviews of MISSION 6 (like, could you TURN OFF the FREAKING ARP for 30 seconds?) I wasn't hearing the Analog Oomph and HEFT so much. So, I wondered: If someone chose awful presets to record, then, yeah, you're hearing the sound of the REAL synth, but its a sound you'd never hope to hear the real item make in the first place. So, being ignorant about it, I wondered if you could taking the settings Wherever...to your liking....and still have an Andromeda or A Microwave or whichever at the end of your noodling. I should go away and return once I've learned how to write One Line comments like everybody else.
Lol, your last sentence made me laugh. Yes, I agree that the limited amount of samples on some of these machines won't give you a full taste of what the machine can do. I have a Korg Triton and SA4 has only a handful of Triton samples and most of them are not really that great. Some of the pads I have on the actual Triton blow away a majority of the soft synths that I own too. I also have a Polybrute and the Polybrute samples in SA4 are really good and I feel like they captured the essence of that machine really well.
I guess I would say that it's not a perfect situation and some of the samples are better than others. I tend to favor samplers over the digital versions of specific hardware like Arturia's V Collection and PianoTeq's model though. I think as good as those pieces of software are, they are still missing that oomph that you talking about. Pianoteq in particular feels like its missing something when I use it.
Se in @@arcticfoxstudios2018 Thanks for ghtful reply. I GET IT when I buy a spitfire library or 100 people bowing violins. You play your keys and hear them play. Key switches handle the articulation changes and keys up top--maybe--bow noises, chatter, whatever they choose to record. Zimmer piano a good case in point---a lot of content of him basically manhandling the piano bench, the LID on the grand and OTHER. Kind of silly. When Omnispere man did Keyscapes, it's like 160 GB or some thing. I mad that up, but , it's BIG ASS. Anyway, my point is a complex SYNTH is as variable as 14 different types of pianos. So, it's $149, it covers 200 synths or whatever,, so it's gonna be like the HARDWARE LIBRARY that Omnisphere Man (same man, I know....name escapes me) did...the D60 got like 10 or 20 presets. Of course, HE (Eric P.) was trying to integrate OMNIS. with folks who OWN a D50. OK, I"m going to slink ack to my cage now.
I'll say this: THEY are close now, but....the day will come when enumeration is indistinguishable from the real BUTTER. IN a mix, it's already there. And the guys....SAMPLEMODELING...their horns are as REAL as real gets. Best thing, I guess is: win the lottery and buy all the damned synths again...
Is this included in the sonic pass?
It is. All UVI products are included in the Sonic Pass.
Anyone else notice many patches have insane cpu usage and require very high buffer size or else there is crackles? Every other libarary i own whether NI, UVI or Arturia ive never had this issue. Its a shame cause I love the sound of this library
I don't have issues, but I'm also running an AMD 5900X and 64 GB of ram.
You mean falcon 3. Not 4 😉😌 i’m really looking forward to 3.
Doh! Too many 3's & 4's & 5's. Hard to keep them all straight.
@@arcticfoxstudios2018 i know exactly what you mean☺️
WOW
Thank U!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Go with Syntronik 2 Max or Omnisphere 2 or go home.
Let’s see what they do with the next Omnisphere release.
Just so you know, there are a good amount of women working at UVI too. 🙂
Quite a few actually. I was going to add a 'and girls' blip on that clip I used from the boys but just forgot because I ran into a bunch of rendering issues with DaVinci Resolve. And, once you upload a video to UA-cam, it's pretty much impossible to make any changes like that which really sucks. Thanks for watching.
Nexus 4 is also amazing 😮
Uvi and san dimas highschool rules!!!!
Last night I had a dream I went to Disneyland...