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Random question about the Apple TV 4k, does it have a volume leveling mode? Roku devices have it and its a relatively important feature to me that i cannot seem to find any information on and no one has mentioned it in any reviews
this was a fun one.. really like the format of putting various packages together at a price point across multiple brands and size options. Also when having to chose between A & K I choose both.
Fluance makes a reference 5.1 system with floorstanders for left and right channels for $899. You can get a SVS SB 1000 pro and the maranta and be right under $2500. You could go budget and do a BIC f12 for your sub and a Denon s769h and be in at $1600. Take it a step further and do no sub since the towers have the 8in subs and you’d be at $1300. It has to be the best budget system
Great to hear Kristi tossing her choices into the mix. We appreciate Andrew helping out, lol. There is no clear winner of course. Each system is unique and wow, really nice systems for the money. This is the type of information that really helps the community. Don’t forget to use the links! Thanks guys.
One of my favorite videos you've made. Love hearing all the speaker pairings, so many good options, and with all the receivers you have reviewed before, just great info to make a great home theater at great prices!
I thoroughly enjoyed this system packages. For my "streamer" I have had really good results with the Amazon Fire TV Cube. My house is not part of the Apple Ecosystem, being Android focused, and I like the fact that the Cube (NOT a Stick), also gives me power and volume control of my Bose sound system. One of these days, it will die, but I just can't talk myself into chucking my LG Plasma. I know..... The TV Cube provides the IR transmitter to sync up all of the remotes. Right this minute, I think I am leaning towards the JBL package. Some of the tower drivers look similar to the L-100's that I used to sell @ Franklin Music in Atlanta, back when the Earth was still cooling, in the late '70's. Yes, I'm old.
I give it a tie between the cheaper Jamos and the Fluance. These are exactly the type of systems I see getting people hooked. Small, cheap, attractive, knock the socks off of most soundbars/surround in a box. Pair these new beautiful speakers with a used reciever you plan to hide away and it's amazing what you can do for around 1000 bucks.
Hey Andrew and Kristi, it’s Emerson who super asked about selling his current audio gear (Cayin EL35, and CXA81) to buy all Schiit gear, and you gave fantastic advice to never change things or upgrade unless you are not happy with something about it. Thank you so much for the advice. I decided to keep my tube amp, and sell my CXA81, which (while an absolutely beautifully functioning unit with plenty inputs and outputs. A fine DAC, Preamp, and A/B amplification [efficient speakers in a small room likely never leave class a]) is a very clear sign that I’ve caught the affliction and an integrated amp doesn’t afford me the opportunity to enjoy everything about my Audio/Video hobby. I sold my Schiit Bifrost Uber DAC plus some other unused stuff around my house and have ordered a used Schiit Gugnir DAC. As soon as I shipped it I realized my system doesn’t sound acceptable and I broke your rule because I loved that DAC. But guess what, I traded my unused and like new RF-82 II pair and my R-12SW (I paid $800 + tax for everything)…. I traded it for like new Heresy III’s. I now have a Schiit Freya +, Gugnir Multibit, looking for one or two Aegirs, or looking to trade my integrated tube amp for a tube power amp. Home theatre is Denon x-2700h plus 5.1 Klipsch rp, 600, 6000 and 504 and spl100.
I have had a 5.1 system for more than twenty years. At first with a Marantz amplifier and some Jamo speakers. Then I replaced the amplifier with a Yamaha one, 4K stuff, and the center speaker with a more powerful Indiana Line. The Jamo continue to give me good service and it is curious to see that both these and Marantz continue to be recommended. Good things last.
I liked this episode a lot. These would be my selections: Klipsch RP-4000F towers Klipsch RP-400M bookshelf’s Klipsch RP-404C center Jamo C910 subwoofer Denon X2700H AVR Total system cost $2,349
I think these are perfect examples for people that do appreciate better sound than the cheap pre-built all in one systems/simple soundbars, that want to try their hand at a decent first time quality home theater. Not going to destroy your savings purchasing all the components, and gets you 75-80 percent there to top of the line sound
Andrew and Kristi, I always enjoy the conversation aspect of your channel, and videos like this make me wish y'all did a podcast as well! You both are engaging to listen to and I'd be curious to know your thoughts on other things like design, marketing, etc. Thanks for putting out quality content!
Damn! Kristi's call on the Fluance system is IT! While I have the Jamo system (thanks to Andrew's previous review) purchased super cheap on Amazon earlier in the year I think for my son's set up with his limited budget I'm going to suggest Kristi's system. I think he'll be very happy.
Kristi and Andrew, you guys are awesome and fun to watch! Thanks for putting together so many options to get THE BEST for those with limited budget (I think it's most of us watching you😆). And, I do believe Kristi actually won this round with LESS options on the table! 😆
This video was great fun, so it gets a LIKE (as I always do), a FAVORITE, an addition to my own Useful Tips folder, and it gets displayed on the fridge with magnets and a gold star. It's fridge-worthy; the best compliment I can give. Haha! All the best as usual, Kristi and Andrew. :)
This was fun. Kristi came out of left field with the Fluance system and gave you a little “chin check”. Kinda woke you up Andrew. You have shown how with some creativity and time, one can have a good 5.1 system. So based on creativity, you have give this one to Kristi. Her Fluance system will get someone new into home theater and they buy a budget TV for a complete system.
fluance is a great call on a theater set up, i ended uo going with the floor standing speakers in their mid teir level, around the same price as the jamo. center channel at 179 and ended up just doing a 12 inch sub. really great sound
My current HTS is around double the proposed budget, for 2500$ I would do the following: Pioneer VSX-LX305 - 1200$ KLIPSCH r12-sw - 200 emotiva T0 - 400 Emotiva C1 - 320 for rears, take your pick from the A1, E2, or B1, whatever fits your room. In the future you can expand with another klipsch sub and a pair of a1 height channels
Hi Kristi and Andrew, I realize this is a bit off topic, but I need some help and thought other viewers might like some input on the same general topic, multi zone. It looks like I’ve made a mistake. I have a McIntosh MX 123 AV preprocessor which has 3 zones available for audio output. I use zone 1 for my living room, zone 2 for my lounge, and split the zone 3 output to 2 different pairs of outdoor speakers. Zones 1 & 2 are powered by McIntosh amps, but in order to have Wi-Fi and app based control over the outdoor speakers, I was advised to purchase 2 Sonos power amps. The intention was to have the ability to have a continuous, multi zone signal (music) as you walked throughout the house and back yard. Unfortunately, even though I’m running a direct analog signal through RCA to the Sonos amps, they have a really long processing delay. There appears to be no way around this issue that I’ve been able to find, so it seems I’ll have to find a different equipment option. What would you recommend for power amps that will pass through the analog signal without delay, and allow me app based control over the 2 different sets of zone 3 speakers independently for on/off and volume control? thanks in advance!
Awesome video! This kind of content is just so helpful. I’ve been considering the Jamo C series for this exact purpose (as we discussed a couple weeks ago), so I think I have to side with Andrew on this one 😉. Love these kinds of videos interspersed with the reviews. Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks @@andrewrobinsonreviews! Do you have a favorite receiver pairing with the Jamo sound? I honestly hadn’t considered the Denon. I have been thinking about the Onkyo, but I really like the idea of having pre-outs for future upgrades, so the Marantz (or saving a few more pennies and jumping up to the Integra 3.4) may be the better solution.
I use marantz nr1711 with wharfdale dx-2 speaker package with an extra set of dx2 speakers to make it 7.1. For my little house in the UK it fits in perfect.
Rather going with seven base speakers I went with five and two overhead! Normally wouldn't recommend it, but for the fact where both in small rooms. Not only more separation between speakers.. the room acoustics sound better also. Ever thought of experimenting and giving it a try.
Just for the heck of it, I decided to take a stab at it. My system was as follows: Paradigm Monitor SE 3000F Paradigm SE Atom Paradigm Monitor SE 2000C Paradigm Definance V10 And a Yamaha RX V6A. All for just over $2300!
I really enjoyed this video as I was doing some work around the house. I got a chuckle out of the back and forth near the end. For protecting ego purposes, I'll give the win to Andrew. 🙂One thought I did have though is for those considering the Sony STR-DH790 may want to also consider the Yamaha RX-V6A/TSR-700 especially if they would like phono input. With the new boards and firmware updates...I've been pretty pleased with my TSR-700 although it's understood there are caveats for some 8K video gamers out there. Either way, nobody can go wrong following your suggestions.
You guys are mind readers, I am about to move into a bigger apartment with really thick walls and I was looking on line for a affordable system and you gave me some really great options. Thank you. I am going with option 1. So happy!!!
Thanks for this video. I hate trying to find advice online for speakers. If you go onto any forum or redit page for speakers the people on them are toxic and useless. They act as if anything under $2k is no better then dollar store pc speakers. They will often refuse to give recommendations like this video. And they attack any brand that makes cheaper speakers like these. I really wish there was a website i could go to to list off what i had found and was thinking and id get usefull advice not just "nah thats all trash get these $8k speakers instead" And cant trust anyone that gets a commission cause they to will just push what gets them the higher cut or push the brand they own.
love all your choices, I have to go with Andrew on this one. I would like to add my set up for under 2500. All Klipsch speakers RP-280Fs R,L channels($600) for the pair RP-450C or 504C center channel for ($299) RP-160M for surrounds $(239) for the pair Sony str-dh790 7.2 channel receiver for ($349) Get 2 Klipsch R-12SW subwoofer ($199x2)=$398 Total ($1,885). Now if you want to get fancy get the Emotiva BasX3 amplifier for the front stage ($499). Get 2 Russound ADP-1.2 Speaker-level to Line-level Adapter ($39.99X2)=79.98 brings the Total to ($2,463).
Sorry but the fluance system she mentioned was absolutely great. I’d personally get 2 Jamo subs with that system... but my system is way above the cost of anything of these. But there’s are fantastic
The Jamo system at 💲1200 is the best choice at the moment . Spend the other 1200 on prepping for the winter lol . For that reason you win this one Andrew .. 😊
Great video ... it is awesome that both you and your wife share the audio/video hobby. I support any of the 7 systems you put together. The Q-acoustics are great speakers... the sub for them poses a quandry. Get the underpowered Q3060 sub for $550 or the bigger Q B12 for $800 that match visually but are not the best bang for buck IMO. I personally say... slightly mis-matched looking wise... SVS PB1000 is an awesome HT sub for $500.
I would really like to see Dali reviewed, not only in entry level but also higher end. I started out with the Jamo long ago as well and really tend towards danish brands somehow from the sound. Thanks for your videos 🙂
I’m team Andrew on this. I liked a lot of he’s speaker choices better. $2500 is actually a fairly easy price point to hit without having to include a tv. Consider that a basic emotiva 5.1 speaker setup will still give you $700 for a receiver to go with it. I like that there are so many affordable options these days to get a setup that really speaks to you individually. Ps: $2500 is a lot less than a lot of the receivers I’ve seen you review.
For my HT system... after your initial review from a long time ago, I bought the Jamo S803 and matching Center and for sub use a Polk Audio PSW10 with my older Marantz NR1604 and am super happy with it. Added some super cheap ($60/pair) DIY surrounds for fun and love it all. One day I'll add a DIRAC receiver and be done.
Onkyo 7100 and the SVS Prime Satellites with SB 1000 pro package, 5 identical speakers and a great sub, along with Dirac Live. At under $2700 get the Prime Center to replace the Prime Satellite
Cool video!! Love the packages. I've recommended the first Jamo package to family members as a good starter. I myself scoured the used market. Scored 2 ML Motion 20s, a Motion 30 center, 2 Motion 4 bookshelves and 4 Motion 2s for atmos......all 9 speakers for 1k. Love the channel. Keep up the great work.
Another informative and enjoyable video! You guys are great! The banter you and Kristi had at the end reminded me of how my wife and tackle similar subjects. Please keep up the great work and thank you!
I bought a jamo 809s 3.2 for my garage setup. The sound is nice and the bass is great in my cement block garage. The price was way cheaper then expected. Bought them after watching your video on them. I had a budget of 1000$ for the garage sound system and boy am I happy after watching your video on them. I know added a Uturn turntable after watching your review on them as well. Best of all worlds for under 1600$
I might be a bit of an outlier, but I've "downgraded" from years using a 5.1 system to a 2.1 system for everything. I found switching between 5.1 for movies and 2.1 for music a bit jarring, so I've been looking for an amp/speaker combo that delivers crystal clear vocals and enough subwoofer "umph" (as we say in the UK) to not need the rear channels anymore. I settled on a full KEF setup with two LS50s and a KC62 subwoofer, paired with the very neutral NAD M10 V2. I honestly don't miss the rear channels. For me, toeing in the speakers correctly and using Dirac to set up the listening position was more important in a "small" 4m - 5m room.
Andrew I’ve been watching your channel non stop for a month. Love your knowledge and delivery. I’m getting a NR1711 delivered next week based on your review. Ever since HK has gone downhill I’ve played around with Onkyo and Pioneer but nothing has the sound of the old HK amps. I’m hoping the Marantz will offer the same sound quality and years of service the 80s HK receivers had. My mains are JBL Northridge ND310II’s. I’m really hoping they match well as I love the speakers themselves. Hats off to your channel for no nonsense down to earth content!👍👍
I like this video alot. I will say that I prefer the Klipsch system because it has the cleanest upgrade path to 5.4.2 Atmos. I could see a user upgrading to another SSP in the future, adding a second pair of Klipsch 600 mII's for surround and two more in ceilings for the 4 height channels. All of which could be done incrementally.
This listing comes at a good time for me. I retired last year, liquidated most of my property, and after spending the winter in Costa Rica I am looking to buy a small retirement home this year which of course will involve getting a new home theater/music set up. Being a retiree, of course I want it as reasonably priced as possible, but WiFi and Atmos compatibility were musts for me. I had been leaning toward a Klipsch surround set up with the Atmos towers and a Denon AVR-X2700H. Of course that can change depending on the logistics of my future living room. In fact, I might decide to skip the rear surrounds if they would be too awkward and go with a 3.1.2 setup instead. Anyway, this video has given me plenty of food for thought, and any criticism of my choices is welcome. Thanks.
Surround speakers are easier and more immersive than height speakers imo. Height speakers can be done right *if* actually done right if in-ceiling and room corrected, but surrounds are better bag for the buck. But the average retiree whose ear maybe can't do the same level of critical listening would likely benefit the most from more speakers in more positions than fewer, more expensive speakers. Just my .02.
Take your lumps and pick your battles, Andrew. #TeamKristi #PianoBlackIsBoring But srsly, EXCELLENT systems to recommend, especially for non-audiophiles who would not be familiar with a lot of those brands. Once again a good video topic made better by your combined input and perspective. Thanks to you both!
Man, I wish I only spent $2500. When I bought my first system my local store had 6 rooms set up with increasing quality and performance. My rep (John) said most people can't hear the difference past the 3rd room. I heard everything all the way up to and beyond the 6th room. My wife couldn't pass room 1. Consequently, I wound up spending $15k over the next 2 years and my wife still won't forgive me, and still have most of that system from 15 years ago (Parasound, Rotel, Yamaha, SVS, Paradigm, Amphion, Oppo LG OLED). Thanks!
Very well done! My opinion, Andrew does win, purely for the Onkyo 7100 choice with Dirac. It will allow for a VERY NICE future upgrade beyond the Kantos, which are really good in their own right. That said, Kristi probably nailed the speaker choices better, especially for most mainstream users. So maybe I'm wrong, Kristi is right it's a tie? So.....Kristi wins again on the tie breaker? Sorry, Andrew.
I had to chuckle because Kristi was doing a fantastic job when talking about her first system, and Andrew looked kinda uncomfortable. Anyway, we are all in this for fun! And, I liked this episode even though I am a 2 channel only guy.
This is the perfect video for me. I’ve been looking at setting up my first hts so I appreciate it. I’m now conflicted though. HT-A9 or a traditional route? I really like the fluance system. Fwiw, I’m in an apartment for now with a weird sloping ceiling and funky living room layout
@RyRye If your ceiling height is over 10', I don't think the A9 will be the best solution. I would encourage you to watch our A9 review for more details.
I love this video. I would also love to see the same thing for 2 channel systems. Maybe a pair of speakers, receiver, and turntable for under $2500? What are your thoughts on finding some vintage pieces as a part of a system like that? That would be a super interesting video!
Went with the Jamo S803 setup in white with an SB-1000 Pro and it slams in a midsized room! Even without optimal placement, my Yamaha RX-A680 does a good job of room correction. I haven’t experienced the Fluance or used Dirac but the Jamos won for the WAF ;) great video!
I will give it to Andrew primarily for his facial expressions... I love yours too Kristi 4 points for Andew 3 for Kristi and +10 to both of you for your back and forth dynamics. What would you do with a Focal setup under 2.5k? is it possible? :)
Andrew, love your vides. Can you please make a video of a home theater that consists of decent fronts, nice av receiver and good rear speakers where couch is touching the rear wall?
Awww…this video is a week too late for me. My starting budget was $2500(ish). Went with Onkyo 6100; Polk Sig Elite Series: es50, es10, es35; Klipsch r10swi; 100’ wire and plugs - all just right about at that mark. Just waiting on the center to come tomorrow, but so far so good on the rest. This replaced the Sony 7000 trifecta that conked out after 2 weeks - and for $500 less than that debacle. It can be done, friends! Thanks for the video!
Thanks Andrew and Kristi! Planning to set up a home theatre within this next year or so as I'm moving to a new place in the next couple of months. I know you mostly do product reviews and not so much how-to guides, but would you be able to share the different ways (I'm assuming there are different ways!) one can hook up a 5.1/5.2 home theatre system while still being able to hook up the front speakers (+subs?) to the typical hifi setup such as streamer+dac+amp? These would be for when I just want to listen to some music in the best quality possible.
Andrew, you bring up a point I'd like exlored further if practical. How would the best $2500 sound bar compare with any of these 7 recommended systems and if these systems outperform, why ie. in what area ? Bass, sound-staging, accuracy, tonality, transparency ? Take the space considerations out of the equation. I'd like to know if a perfectly set up separate system will beat a soundbar. Kind of like the 90's debate of those all in one mini hifi's could outperform a 80's style all separate stereo system. Thanks for a good video !
Love it!! I have the jamo s807 package with the Atmos speakers and sub with the Sony str DH 790. I got this set up shortly after watching your video that recommended it and I love it! I was lucky too, I got the two double driver towers, Atmos speakers, two bookshelf, two subs and a Yamaha amplifier off eBay for £900 oh and they guy gave me £300 worth of speaker cable and HDMI. I sold the amp (as I prefer Sony's sound) for £280 so all in cost me £620 so you can imagine my cost to performance is amazing!!!
I had a decent budget so went with my existing AppleTV4k and added the Onkyo 6100 + the Q Acoustics 3050i bundle (3050i x 2 / 3010i x2 / 3090ci / QB12 ) - its obv over 2500 but I also wanted something that sounded neutral for music but also looked good in my living room (their walnut finish is beautiful). I love it, just two nights ago my daughters were squealing in excitement watching the Phantom Menace (esp. the pod racing part) and actually said how much they enjoyed the surround sound in that part. Its all a dad wants! Star Wars night with the daughters in style!
They are ALL great systems and I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. I went with the Jamo components after listening to Andrew's video on those speakers a few months back (pre-move). I wasn't thrilled with the Jamo center channel (neither were Andrew and Kristi), plus I ended up getting a BDI cabinet for CHEAP on FB marketplace, and the Jamo wouldn't fit the drawer, but I ended up with a JBL center with Jamo S807's in the front with the Atmos speakers, S803's in the back with the Jamo C sub, all on sale or clearance somewhere, all run through the Pioneer VSX-LX305. Very happy with the system.
You both picked components from manufacturers I have thoroughly enjoyed (or still enjoy). My fist home theater with a projector had Jamo towers, center and surround speakers powered by a Denon AVR. I have small Klipsch system with a Polk subwoofer and a Denon AVR. My current main system with Sony 65" OLED is powered by an Onkyo AVR and is all JBL (the surrounds and the center are modern JBL, the mains are vintage JBL L200b's - no subwoofer needed). I think you both chose great systems are several attractive price points. I think Andrew won this round, especially with the two Jamo systems and the JBL Stage systems, it was really close. This was another entertaining and useful video.
Super fun video! Really thinking about doing a system to replace my Klipsch soundbar. Just can never seem to get the right balance between dialogue and music/sounds with the soundbar.
I have about $2500 invested in my 5.1 setup. I have a Denon AVRX3400, Emotiva A-700 amp, Aperion 5T towers, 5C center, 5B bookshelves, and two SVS SB12 NSD subs. I got sone incredible deals on all the gear and it was a couple of years ago. Considering what I have invested I think it sounds amazing! Also, I think all of these are great setups so its hard to pick a winner. I’m not a huge fan of Klipsch so that’s a knock against Kristi, but I know a lot of ppl like them. Jarmo has a similar sound, but you just can’t beat their price!
There's something a lot of you may not know but women generally have better hearing than men do and can process sound in their brains better too. Men do have a hearing advantage in the 1 kHz to 2 kHz range, but women hear frequencies above 2 kHz better.
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Good battle guys.
@@craigosterberg5045 Thanks!
The receiver with Dirac and whatever speakers you enjoy at the price point you can afford is going to be the winner no matter what IMHO
Random question about the Apple TV 4k, does it have a volume leveling mode? Roku devices have it and its a relatively important feature to me that i cannot seem to find any information on and no one has mentioned it in any reviews
@@jasonmc6997 you can use the Apple remote to control volume of tv.
can we get an update for 2023 please?
Sure, just take 2022 prices and double it 😂
2024 would be better lol
@@The1Music2MyEarslmao but it's accurate
this was a fun one.. really like the format of putting various packages together at a price point across multiple brands and size options. Also when having to chose between A & K I choose both.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
So happy Kristi went with the Fluance Reference system. She's right, everyone does go with her. Sorry Andrew, she's totally got you there. 👏
Fluance makes a reference 5.1 system with floorstanders for left and right channels for $899. You can get a SVS SB 1000 pro and the maranta and be right under $2500. You could go budget and do a BIC f12 for your sub and a Denon s769h and be in at $1600. Take it a step further and do no sub since the towers have the 8in subs and you’d be at $1300. It has to be the best budget system
Soooo much fun! Please never, EVER stop making your videos - the thoughtful, playful ones amongst us, would be sad if you did! THANK 🤗😁😁😁🤗 YOU!!
Great to hear Kristi tossing her choices into the mix. We appreciate Andrew helping out, lol. There is no clear winner of course. Each system is unique and wow, really nice systems for the money. This is the type of information that really helps the community. Don’t forget to use the links! Thanks guys.
Everything came in a budget, and I couldn't be happier with the sound and quality. Plus, the satisfaction of building it myself is priceless!
Have I mentioned how much joy you both give me. This was so much fun!
That's so kind of you to say. Comments like this one make the job more enjoyable for us as well!
One of my favorite videos you've made. Love hearing all the speaker pairings, so many good options, and with all the receivers you have reviewed before, just great info to make a great home theater at great prices!
I thoroughly enjoyed this system packages. For my "streamer" I have had really good results with the Amazon Fire TV Cube. My house is not part of the Apple Ecosystem, being Android focused, and I like the fact that the Cube (NOT a Stick), also gives me power and volume control of my Bose sound system. One of these days, it will die, but I just can't talk myself into chucking my LG Plasma. I know..... The TV Cube provides the IR transmitter to sync up all of the remotes. Right this minute, I think I am leaning towards the JBL package. Some of the tower drivers look similar to the L-100's that I used to sell @ Franklin Music in Atlanta, back when the Earth was still cooling, in the late '70's. Yes, I'm old.
I give it a tie between the cheaper Jamos and the Fluance. These are exactly the type of systems I see getting people hooked. Small, cheap, attractive, knock the socks off of most soundbars/surround in a box. Pair these new beautiful speakers with a used reciever you plan to hide away and it's amazing what you can do for around 1000 bucks.
I don't think anyone will get tired of these system pick videos. Since there's so many, might as well keep doing them. ;)
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Hey Andrew and Kristi, it’s Emerson who super asked about selling his current audio gear (Cayin EL35, and CXA81) to buy all Schiit gear, and you gave fantastic advice to never change things or upgrade unless you are not happy with something about it.
Thank you so much for the advice. I decided to keep my tube amp, and sell my CXA81, which (while an absolutely beautifully functioning unit with plenty inputs and outputs. A fine DAC, Preamp, and A/B amplification [efficient speakers in a small room likely never leave class a]) is a very clear sign that I’ve caught the affliction and an integrated amp doesn’t afford me the opportunity to enjoy everything about my Audio/Video hobby.
I sold my Schiit Bifrost Uber DAC plus some other unused stuff around my house and have ordered a used Schiit Gugnir DAC. As soon as I shipped it I realized my system doesn’t sound acceptable and I broke your rule because I loved that DAC.
But guess what, I traded my unused and like new RF-82 II pair and my R-12SW (I paid $800 + tax for everything)…. I traded it for like new Heresy III’s.
I now have a Schiit Freya +, Gugnir Multibit, looking for one or two Aegirs, or looking to trade my integrated tube amp for a tube power amp.
Home theatre is Denon x-2700h plus 5.1 Klipsch rp, 600, 6000 and 504 and spl100.
I have had a 5.1 system for more than twenty years. At first with a Marantz amplifier and some Jamo speakers. Then I replaced the amplifier with a Yamaha one, 4K stuff, and the center speaker with a more powerful Indiana Line. The Jamo continue to give me good service and it is curious to see that both these and Marantz continue to be recommended. Good things last.
I liked this episode a lot. These would be my selections:
Klipsch RP-4000F towers
Klipsch RP-400M bookshelf’s
Klipsch RP-404C center
Jamo C910 subwoofer
Denon X2700H AVR
Total system cost $2,349
I think these are perfect examples for people that do appreciate better sound than the cheap pre-built all in one systems/simple soundbars, that want to try their hand at a decent first time quality home theater. Not going to destroy your savings purchasing all the components, and gets you 75-80 percent there to top of the line sound
A lot of ppl are asking for a 2024/2023 review lol
Flaunce…huh…gonna have to check those out! Came here for the bundles. Stayed for the fun jabbing and competitive banter at the end. 😄
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Yeah - OH, Canada .. haha
Andrew and Kristi, I always enjoy the conversation aspect of your channel, and videos like this make me wish y'all did a podcast as well! You both are engaging to listen to and I'd be curious to know your thoughts on other things like design, marketing, etc. Thanks for putting out quality content!
That would be so much fun to do. I wish we had the time! It's definitely something I'd like to try. 😻
Don't know why, but I love when you guys put together these systems. It's like an "audiophile hack"
Damn! Kristi's call on the Fluance system is IT! While I have the Jamo system (thanks to Andrew's previous review) purchased super cheap on Amazon earlier in the year I think for my son's set up with his limited budget I'm going to suggest Kristi's system. I think he'll be very happy.
Kristi and Andrew, you guys are awesome and fun to watch! Thanks for putting together so many options to get THE BEST for those with limited budget (I think it's most of us watching you😆). And, I do believe Kristi actually won this round with LESS options on the table! 😆
This video was great fun, so it gets a LIKE (as I always do), a FAVORITE, an addition to my own Useful Tips folder, and it gets displayed on the fridge with magnets and a gold star. It's fridge-worthy; the best compliment I can give. Haha! All the best as usual, Kristi and Andrew. :)
Fridge worthy. This made my day!
You both did really good 👍🏻 And Andrew, my tip every time is “Happy wife, happy life” 😎
I think the Kanto system might come out on top with the SB1000 Pro and Onkyo with Dirac!
This was fun. Kristi came out of left field with the Fluance system and gave you a little “chin check”. Kinda woke you up Andrew. You have shown how with some creativity and time, one can have a good 5.1 system. So based on creativity, you have give this one to Kristi. Her Fluance system will get someone new into home theater and they buy a budget TV for a complete system.
My systems were really hard to come up with since Andrew had already taken some of the best ones! The Fluance is super underrated!
fluance is a great call on a theater set up, i ended uo going with the floor standing speakers in their mid teir level, around the same price as the jamo. center channel at 179 and ended up just doing a 12 inch sub. really great sound
My current HTS is around double the proposed budget, for 2500$ I would do the following:
Pioneer VSX-LX305 - 1200$
KLIPSCH r12-sw - 200
emotiva T0 - 400
Emotiva C1 - 320
for rears, take your pick from the A1, E2, or B1, whatever fits your room.
In the future you can expand with another klipsch sub and a pair of a1 height channels
My Pioneer LX305 arrives later this week. I hope it’s as good as everyone makes it out to be.
@@DavidStella I bought the rz50 which is very similar. You’ll love it.
Hi Kristi and Andrew, I realize this is a bit off topic, but I need some help and thought other viewers might like some input on the same general topic, multi zone.
It looks like I’ve made a mistake. I have a McIntosh MX 123 AV preprocessor which has 3 zones available for audio output. I use zone 1 for my living room, zone 2 for my lounge, and split the zone 3 output to 2 different pairs of outdoor speakers. Zones 1 & 2 are powered by McIntosh amps, but in order to have Wi-Fi and app based control over the outdoor speakers, I was advised to purchase 2 Sonos power amps. The intention was to have the ability to have a continuous, multi zone signal (music) as you walked throughout the house and back yard. Unfortunately, even though I’m running a direct analog signal through RCA to the Sonos amps, they have a really long processing delay. There appears to be no way around this issue that I’ve been able to find, so it seems I’ll have to find a different equipment option. What would you recommend for power amps that will pass through the analog signal without delay, and allow me app based control over the 2 different sets of zone 3 speakers independently for on/off and volume control?
thanks in advance!
I am not a HT guy but I enjoyed watching this video, thanx Christy and Andrew
Thanks!
Awesome video! This kind of content is just so helpful. I’ve been considering the Jamo C series for this exact purpose (as we discussed a couple weeks ago), so I think I have to side with Andrew on this one 😉.
Love these kinds of videos interspersed with the reviews. Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks Joe! Glad you found it helpful and the C Series is a legit killer speaker system!
Thanks @@andrewrobinsonreviews! Do you have a favorite receiver pairing with the Jamo sound? I honestly hadn’t considered the Denon. I have been thinking about the Onkyo, but I really like the idea of having pre-outs for future upgrades, so the Marantz (or saving a few more pennies and jumping up to the Integra 3.4) may be the better solution.
I don't disagree with your reasoning and think you're on the right path.
I use marantz nr1711 with wharfdale dx-2 speaker package with an extra set of dx2 speakers to make it 7.1. For my little house in the UK it fits in perfect.
Rather going with seven base speakers I went with five and two overhead! Normally wouldn't recommend it, but for the fact where both in small rooms. Not only more separation between speakers.. the room acoustics sound better also.
Ever thought of experimenting and giving it a try.
Just for the heck of it, I decided to take a stab at it. My system was as follows:
Paradigm Monitor SE 3000F
Paradigm SE Atom
Paradigm Monitor SE 2000C
Paradigm Definance V10
And a Yamaha RX V6A. All for just over $2300!
I really enjoyed this video as I was doing some work around the house. I got a chuckle out of the back and forth near the end. For protecting ego purposes, I'll give the win to Andrew. 🙂One thought I did have though is for those considering the Sony STR-DH790 may want to also consider the Yamaha RX-V6A/TSR-700 especially if they would like phono input. With the new boards and firmware updates...I've been pretty pleased with my TSR-700 although it's understood there are caveats for some 8K video gamers out there. Either way, nobody can go wrong following your suggestions.
You guys are mind readers, I am about to move into a bigger apartment with really thick walls and I was looking on line for a affordable system and you gave me some really great options. Thank you. I am going with option 1. So happy!!!
Thanks for this video.
I hate trying to find advice online for speakers. If you go onto any forum or redit page for speakers the people on them are toxic and useless. They act as if anything under $2k is no better then dollar store pc speakers. They will often refuse to give recommendations like this video. And they attack any brand that makes cheaper speakers like these.
I really wish there was a website i could go to to list off what i had found and was thinking and id get usefull advice not just "nah thats all trash get these $8k speakers instead"
And cant trust anyone that gets a commission cause they to will just push what gets them the higher cut or push the brand they own.
Any plans to update based on Jan 2024 products and prices
love all your choices, I have to go with Andrew on this one.
I would like to add my set up for under 2500.
All Klipsch speakers
RP-280Fs R,L channels($600) for the pair
RP-450C or 504C center channel for ($299)
RP-160M for surrounds $(239) for the pair
Sony str-dh790 7.2 channel receiver for ($349)
Get 2 Klipsch R-12SW subwoofer ($199x2)=$398
Total ($1,885).
Now if you want to get fancy get the Emotiva BasX3 amplifier
for the front stage ($499).
Get 2 Russound ADP-1.2 Speaker-level to Line-level Adapter ($39.99X2)=79.98
brings the Total to ($2,463).
Kristi and her klipsch system for the win
Sorry but the fluance system she mentioned was absolutely great. I’d personally get 2 Jamo subs with that system... but my system is way above the cost of anything of these. But there’s are fantastic
The Jamo system at 💲1200 is the best choice at the moment . Spend the other 1200 on prepping for the winter lol . For that reason you win this one Andrew .. 😊
Vote for me! Thanks for watching!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews it was a great video and I'm not even into home theater stuff . You got my vote 👍
This episode is so cute!! I have to however side with Kristi!
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I love kristi systems I would get them for sure love the videos my surround system made go for my dream two channel system
Great video ... it is awesome that both you and your wife share the audio/video hobby. I support any of the 7 systems you put together. The Q-acoustics are great speakers... the sub for them poses a quandry. Get the underpowered Q3060 sub for $550 or the bigger Q B12 for $800 that match visually but are not the best bang for buck IMO. I personally say... slightly mis-matched looking wise... SVS PB1000 is an awesome HT sub for $500.
I would really like to see Dali reviewed, not only in entry level but also higher end.
I started out with the Jamo long ago as well and really tend towards danish brands somehow from the sound.
Thanks for your videos 🙂
Love my Spektor 1s on my desk!
The last system is the best. You could buy a fluance buy turntable and HAPPY EVER AFTER.
Another fantastically useful video. All the best to you two.
I’m team Andrew on this. I liked a lot of he’s speaker choices better. $2500 is actually a fairly easy price point to hit without having to include a tv. Consider that a basic emotiva 5.1 speaker setup will still give you $700 for a receiver to go with it. I like that there are so many affordable options these days to get a setup that really speaks to you individually.
Ps: $2500 is a lot less than a lot of the receivers I’ve seen you review.
Great video and perfect timing
Shopping for a home theater? Glad you're finding the video helpful!
For my HT system... after your initial review from a long time ago, I bought the Jamo S803 and matching Center and for sub use a Polk Audio PSW10 with my older Marantz NR1604 and am super happy with it. Added some super cheap ($60/pair) DIY surrounds for fun and love it all. One day I'll add a DIRAC receiver and be done.
I bet it sounds awesome! That system WITH A SUB is pretty remarkable considering it's SO CHEAP!
Great options Kristi!! But I'm siding with Andrew on this one 😂. I just love the looks of Jamo speakers and how affordable they are.
How dare you!! 🤣
You really are my favorite channel! Always so detailed and joyful reviews. I’ll need to buy a house for this type of home theater now 😅
Onkyo 7100 and the SVS Prime Satellites with SB 1000 pro package, 5 identical speakers and a great sub, along with Dirac Live. At under $2700 get the Prime Center to replace the Prime Satellite
Cool video!! Love the packages. I've recommended the first Jamo package to family members as a good starter. I myself scoured the used market. Scored 2 ML Motion 20s, a Motion 30 center, 2 Motion 4 bookshelves and 4 Motion 2s for atmos......all 9 speakers for 1k. Love the channel. Keep up the great work.
Another informative and enjoyable video! You guys are great! The banter you and Kristi had at the end reminded me of how my wife and tackle similar subjects. Please keep up the great work and thank you!
I bought a jamo 809s 3.2 for my garage setup. The sound is nice and the bass is great in my cement block garage. The price was way cheaper then expected. Bought them after watching your video on them. I had a budget of 1000$ for the garage sound system and boy am I happy after watching your video on them. I know added a Uturn turntable after watching your review on them as well. Best of all worlds for under 1600$
I might be a bit of an outlier, but I've "downgraded" from years using a 5.1 system to a 2.1 system for everything. I found switching between 5.1 for movies and 2.1 for music a bit jarring, so I've been looking for an amp/speaker combo that delivers crystal clear vocals and enough subwoofer "umph" (as we say in the UK) to not need the rear channels anymore.
I settled on a full KEF setup with two LS50s and a KC62 subwoofer, paired with the very neutral NAD M10 V2. I honestly don't miss the rear channels. For me, toeing in the speakers correctly and using Dirac to set up the listening position was more important in a "small" 4m - 5m room.
Thanks for this video. I think that Kristi’s system recommendations are the best choices and that’s where I would put my money 😀.
✅ Another vote for Kristi!
Andrew I’ve been watching your channel non stop for a month. Love your knowledge and delivery. I’m getting a NR1711 delivered next week based on your review. Ever since HK has gone downhill I’ve played around with Onkyo and Pioneer but nothing has the sound of the old HK amps. I’m hoping the Marantz will offer the same sound quality and years of service the 80s HK receivers had. My mains are JBL Northridge ND310II’s. I’m really hoping they match well as I love the speakers themselves. Hats off to your channel for no nonsense down to earth content!👍👍
@Andrew, I'm ready to build my system. When are you doing the 2023 version?
I like this video alot. I will say that I prefer the Klipsch system because it has the cleanest upgrade path to 5.4.2 Atmos. I could see a user upgrading to another SSP in the future, adding a second pair of Klipsch 600 mII's for surround and two more in ceilings for the 4 height channels. All of which could be done incrementally.
This listing comes at a good time for me. I retired last year, liquidated most of my property, and after spending the winter in Costa Rica I am looking to buy a small retirement home this year which of course will involve getting a new home theater/music set up. Being a retiree, of course I want it as reasonably priced as possible, but WiFi and Atmos compatibility were musts for me. I had been leaning toward a Klipsch surround set up with the Atmos towers and a Denon AVR-X2700H. Of course that can change depending on the logistics of my future living room. In fact, I might decide to skip the rear surrounds if they would be too awkward and go with a 3.1.2 setup instead. Anyway, this video has given me plenty of food for thought, and any criticism of my choices is welcome. Thanks.
Surround speakers are easier and more immersive than height speakers imo. Height speakers can be done right *if* actually done right if in-ceiling and room corrected, but surrounds are better bag for the buck. But the average retiree whose ear maybe can't do the same level of critical listening would likely benefit the most from more speakers in more positions than fewer, more expensive speakers. Just my .02.
Christie’s Klipch setup is the winner!!!!!!!!!
Take your lumps and pick your battles, Andrew.
#TeamKristi
#PianoBlackIsBoring
But srsly, EXCELLENT systems to recommend, especially for non-audiophiles who would not be familiar with a lot of those brands. Once again a good video topic made better by your combined input and perspective. Thanks to you both!
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Team Kristi today! I have a Fluance 5.1 and also a Klipsch RP (old) 5.1 (soon to be .4 with in ceiling) and love both systems! Great video!!
Yeah Andrew, her links are awesome! 😁 My speaker cable components are on the way from Amazon. Thanks again kids, great video BTW 👍
Our pleasure!
Just subscribed. Right to the information right to the point ,good man will definitely recommend you.
Thanks for the sub!
Man, I wish I only spent $2500. When I bought my first system my local store had 6 rooms set up with increasing quality and performance. My rep (John) said most people can't hear the difference past the 3rd room. I heard everything all the way up to and beyond the 6th room. My wife couldn't pass room 1. Consequently, I wound up spending $15k over the next 2 years and my wife still won't forgive me, and still have most of that system from 15 years ago (Parasound, Rotel, Yamaha, SVS, Paradigm, Amphion, Oppo LG OLED). Thanks!
Very well done! My opinion, Andrew does win, purely for the Onkyo 7100 choice with Dirac. It will allow for a VERY NICE future upgrade beyond the Kantos, which are really good in their own right. That said, Kristi probably nailed the speaker choices better, especially for most mainstream users. So maybe I'm wrong, Kristi is right it's a tie? So.....Kristi wins again on the tie breaker? Sorry, Andrew.
Hey, we all win in the end! Thanks for joining in on the fun!
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2024 update is needed
Jamo for the money also looks really good.
Agreed!
I had to chuckle because Kristi was doing a fantastic job when talking about her first system, and Andrew looked kinda uncomfortable. Anyway, we are all in this for fun! And, I liked this episode even though I am a 2 channel only guy.
This is the perfect video for me. I’ve been looking at setting up my first hts so I appreciate it. I’m now conflicted though. HT-A9 or a traditional route? I really like the fluance system. Fwiw, I’m in an apartment for now with a weird sloping ceiling and funky living room layout
I was going to ask the exact question, is the Sony HT-A9 is better than these systems mentioned in the video. I hope Andrew can answer the question.
Go try to listen but I would keep in mind that you can use the separates long after Sony stops supporting the system or parts break.
@RyRye If your ceiling height is over 10', I don't think the A9 will be the best solution. I would encourage you to watch our A9 review for more details.
I love this video. I would also love to see the same thing for 2 channel systems. Maybe a pair of speakers, receiver, and turntable for under $2500? What are your thoughts on finding some vintage pieces as a part of a system like that? That would be a super interesting video!
Great segment on both views from Andrew and Christi
Enjoyed very much the detail and info
Great job guys
Went with the Jamo S803 setup in white with an SB-1000 Pro and it slams in a midsized room! Even without optimal placement, my Yamaha RX-A680 does a good job of room correction. I haven’t experienced the Fluance or used Dirac but the Jamos won for the WAF ;) great video!
Kristi’s Klipsch system …for the win!!! Thanks for a Sunday Funday ❤️
One vote for Kristi's home theater! ✅
@@andrewrobinsonreviews LoL! She’s gonna win this one…. If not, fake news! LoLoL
@@saltaormina9404 not gonna lie, that phrase gives me PTSD. Appreciate your vote nonetheless!
I will give it to Andrew primarily for his facial expressions... I love yours too Kristi 4 points for Andew 3 for Kristi and +10 to both of you for your back and forth dynamics.
What would you do with a Focal setup under 2.5k? is it possible? :)
I knew that Kristi would retaliate with Klipsch all in. All systems are kick-ass to the core. 🤘
Andrew, love your vides. Can you please make a video of a home theater that consists of decent fronts, nice av receiver and good rear speakers where couch is touching the rear wall?
Also that svs prime satellites 5.1 system is pretty sick
They almost made my list.
Love their subs...their speakers...gonna have to pass. Sorry, Jeff 😬
Awww…this video is a week too late for me. My starting budget was $2500(ish). Went with Onkyo 6100; Polk Sig Elite Series: es50, es10, es35; Klipsch r10swi; 100’ wire and plugs - all just right about at that mark. Just waiting on the center to come tomorrow, but so far so good on the rest. This replaced the Sony 7000 trifecta that conked out after 2 weeks - and for $500 less than that debacle. It can be done, friends! Thanks for the video!
Awesome love these type of videos
So glad! We hope they're helpful! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Andrew and Kristi! Planning to set up a home theatre within this next year or so as I'm moving to a new place in the next couple of months. I know you mostly do product reviews and not so much how-to guides, but would you be able to share the different ways (I'm assuming there are different ways!) one can hook up a 5.1/5.2 home theatre system while still being able to hook up the front speakers (+subs?) to the typical hifi setup such as streamer+dac+amp? These would be for when I just want to listen to some music in the best quality possible.
Best video you have done to date.
Thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you, David! We sincerely appreciate your support.
Andrew, you bring up a point I'd like exlored further if practical. How would the best $2500 sound bar compare with any of these 7 recommended systems and if these systems outperform, why ie. in what area ? Bass, sound-staging, accuracy, tonality, transparency ? Take the space considerations out of the equation. I'd like to know if a perfectly set up separate system will beat a soundbar. Kind of like the 90's debate of those all in one mini hifi's could outperform a 80's style all separate stereo system. Thanks for a good video !
Love it!! I have the jamo s807 package with the Atmos speakers and sub with the Sony str DH 790. I got this set up shortly after watching your video that recommended it and I love it! I was lucky too, I got the two double driver towers, Atmos speakers, two bookshelf, two subs and a Yamaha amplifier off eBay for £900 oh and they guy gave me £300 worth of speaker cable and HDMI. I sold the amp (as I prefer Sony's sound) for £280 so all in cost me £620 so you can imagine my cost to performance is amazing!!!
Thank you for this video, it has been very helpful. I'm super excited to have a house that can accommodate a home theater and needed some wisdom.
I had a decent budget so went with my existing AppleTV4k and added the Onkyo 6100 + the Q Acoustics 3050i bundle (3050i x 2 / 3010i x2 / 3090ci / QB12 ) - its obv over 2500 but I also wanted something that sounded neutral for music but also looked good in my living room (their walnut finish is beautiful). I love it, just two nights ago my daughters were squealing in excitement watching the Phantom Menace (esp. the pod racing part) and actually said how much they enjoyed the surround sound in that part. Its all a dad wants! Star Wars night with the daughters in style!
They are ALL great systems and I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. I went with the Jamo components after listening to Andrew's video on those speakers a few months back (pre-move). I wasn't thrilled with the Jamo center channel (neither were Andrew and Kristi), plus I ended up getting a BDI cabinet for CHEAP on FB marketplace, and the Jamo wouldn't fit the drawer, but I ended up with a JBL center with Jamo S807's in the front with the Atmos speakers, S803's in the back with the Jamo C sub, all on sale or clearance somewhere, all run through the Pioneer VSX-LX305. Very happy with the system.
Hey, when is the 2023 coming out?
You both picked components from manufacturers I have thoroughly enjoyed (or still enjoy). My fist home theater with a projector had Jamo towers, center and surround speakers powered by a Denon AVR. I have small Klipsch system with a Polk subwoofer and a Denon AVR. My current main system with Sony 65" OLED is powered by an Onkyo AVR and is all JBL (the surrounds and the center are modern JBL, the mains are vintage JBL L200b's - no subwoofer needed). I think you both chose great systems are several attractive price points. I think Andrew won this round, especially with the two Jamo systems and the JBL Stage systems, it was really close. This was another entertaining and useful video.
Super fun video! Really thinking about doing a system to replace my Klipsch soundbar. Just can never seem to get the right balance between dialogue and music/sounds with the soundbar.
Good battle guys.
I have about $2500 invested in my 5.1 setup. I have a Denon AVRX3400, Emotiva A-700 amp, Aperion 5T towers, 5C center, 5B bookshelves, and two SVS SB12 NSD subs. I got sone incredible deals on all the gear and it was a couple of years ago. Considering what I have invested I think it sounds amazing!
Also, I think all of these are great setups so its hard to pick a winner. I’m not a huge fan of Klipsch so that’s a knock against Kristi, but I know a lot of ppl like them. Jarmo has a similar sound, but you just can’t beat their price!
There's something a lot of you may not know but women generally have better hearing than men do and can process sound in their brains better too. Men do have a hearing advantage in the 1 kHz to 2 kHz range, but women hear frequencies above 2 kHz better.
Your outnumbered and your wife is a great salesman.
This was a fun video! You guys have great chemistry ;)
Thank you!! 😁