2021 SYM Symphony ST 200 - Here's Donnie!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Today is the big reveal of my brand new scooter. After 46.000 km on my old 2019 SYM Symphony ST50 I have finally upgraded to the brand new and redesigned 2021 SYM Symphony ST 200. A lot has changed from the previous model. This is just a quick first look because the full review will be coming in a couple of months after I spend some time with it. Considering this isn't a test vehicle or a loaner but my very own scooter bought with my own money, I want my review to be a true ownership experience review with all the good and the bad.
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Interesting introduction & birth of Donnie! A lot of thought & work went into this video. All of your repair stations (i.e., garages), & showrooms are unique in the scooter / cycle world, bar none, (very refreshing), no one does it better, Alex!👍🏻 Naturally, your spec / ride review opinions are greatly appreciated by everyone. Best to you, Rola (Oregon / USA)
Thank you very much!
Thumb up for bike selection mate and obviously for the review of it.
Thank you :)
A well done and useful video bro. Enjoyed it. Keep rockin.
Thank you!
Buen video . 😀 Yo tengo el modelo 125 ST LC . Son unas máquinas excelentes . Gracias por tu vídeo !!!!
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Forests 🌳🌳🌲 Always a great place to make a video 👍
glad i watched this video, it has reminded me of what the sym dealer i bought my sym jet 14 125cc Ac in 2019 said to me, and that is to buy an AC rather than a LC as theres less issues etc with AC..
If you take care of them both variants are reliable.
Felicitari pentru noua achizitie, sa te tina 200.000 km fara incidente si asfalt uscat. Am observat ca ai pe oglinda quadlock, este cumparat din Romania sau direct de pe site-ul lor?
Direct de pe site-ul lor. Îți vine comanda cam într-o săptămână. Urmează sa echipe și Alp-ul cu quad lock in curând și atunci voi vorbi puțin despre motivele pentru care am ales quad lock.
Lovely video, I dint go with the PCX OR N-MAX in the UK as I just love the style of SYM JET 14 with the flat floor. The most stylish scooter in the market for me along with the Aprilia SXR. I just booked a sym jet 14 Liquid-cooled and from your video what I understood is Air-cooled is better than Liquid-cooled. Wondering if I made the right choice by spending more on LC as I wanted the digital speedo.
I rode both of them back to back, the liquid cooled engine is more economical in terms of fuel consumption. And in terms of power and top speed they are pretty much the same. I went for the air cooled just because that's how I felt I try to keep it as simple as possible. Plus the 200 was the only model to come with the factory color coded top case and I really liked that. You didn't make a bad choice with the 125. It's a great engine and you'll love it 😁
@@RideWithAlex Thanks for your reply, glad to know I didn't make the wrong choice :)
I rode the PCX lately and it was a nice ride. Will upload the video very soon. I have to admit that I never tried the Sym, but would love to. Drop by mate, you may like my content.
Nice review! I own a Sym Fiddle 2 and always interested in other alternatives. What about the fuel tank in the floor, do you need a fuel pump then I guess? That lowers reliability instead of fuel falling from the top?
It's fuel injected, all fuel injected engines need a fuel pump. The thing is furl pumps are extremely reliable. My other bike a bmw r1100gs from 1996 has 187.000km and it has it's original fuel pump.
@@RideWithAlex Aha, that makes sense, then I agree it's a good construction. Thanks for the answer.
@@pellepan2457 Hello ,
I had a Sym fiddle 125cc back in 2010 and never had problems with the fuel pump or other problems . I even went traveling too Normandy in France . It was a 600 km trip and it was amazing 👍Sym fiddle is a great scooter dont worry 😀
In greece is one of the best selling sccoters. The majority of the scooters are used by delivery guys and that by itself have a lot to say about symphony st.
Congratulations on your new Donnie
Thanks :D
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Hello from USA. I just bought a SYM Fiddle 4 200i, 2022 model. It looks like a Vespa Sprint but has similar features as your scooter. It has the digital dash, LED headlight, fuel tank under the flat floor and large under seat storage. It only has 12” wheels and combination front and rear disc breaks but no ABS. It has plenty of power for the back roads and easier to ride than my old Suzuki Burgman 400.
Surprisingly not much wind blast on my chest without a windshield. I am retired so this is just a fun bike for me to ride. Still getting to know it.
You have the same engine as I do. The fiddle is lighter then my ST and you can feel the torque a bit better :)
@@RideWithAlex exactly and also I am a big guy at 285 pounds and 300 with riding gear. Had it up to 67 mph indicated on speedometer, pretty peppy for a little scooter.
What is the different between this and the Symphoni SR aside from headlamp posisition?
The SR has the fuel tank under the seat so the storage space is only half
Hi Alex
Can this scooter be black and white color? (including the top case being assorted with it)
I know there is an all white version 🤷🏻♂️
Today I did my first 20Km with my new symphony st 200 euro 5 and I got it the same color as yours. ( I saw all the colors and thats the one I liked most).
The scooter is very good on the road behaviour and all but the only thing that I don t like is the seat .
When I am sitting closer to the steering wheel the seat material is fat so its very nice and comfy/soft. But when I am sitting more to the back in order to touch the seat step, where you are supposed to be sitting, the material is very thin and it results in a harder surface so its not so comfy.
My seat over time has gotten softer, in the beginning it was like a plank of wood bot now it's much better. I think the seat also has a brake in period 😂
Hello Donnie! V-max 110 with tachimetro or GPS? Thanks...
110 on the speedometer 99-100 on GPS
Hi do you happen to know the width of the front suspension? 31,35mm? Thanks
Unfortunately I have no idea what the specs are on the front suspension :)
Salutare, cat costa un top case ( cu montaj inclus ), ce tip de suport telefon folosesti si ce navigatie ( daca foloseste date mobile, ma ref in tarile unde net-ul e mai scump ca auru’ )
Stima !
P.s. Se aude ceva de prog rabla ?
Salutare pentru preturi de echipamente, scutere, program rabla te rog sa te adresezi echipei de vanzari SYM Romania, datele sunt pe site-ul oficial la sectiunea contact.
Suport de telefon folosesc Quad Lock si navigatie offline iGO cu harti cumparate.
@@RideWithAlex multumesc
@@RideWithAlex salut, am intrat pe site sa comand Quad lock si acolo ma intreaba ce tip prindere doresc.. sunt mai multe variante .. pentru cruisym alpha care ar merge ? Cel de tip colier de prins pe ghidon sau ?
@@patakigabriel7457 pentru cruisym trebuie sa iti iei o bara ce se oune sub parbriz, nu ai unde sa prinzi ceva pe ghidounul sau bordul cruisym - ului decat daca lipești.
Do you expect the tires to last as long as the ST 50cc?
I curently have 16.000km on my michelin city grip 2 that I have now on him and the front looks almost new, the back I would say is 50% worn.
Salut! Am vazut ca scuterul are numere rosii, si voiam sa te intreb daca atunci cand vine scuterul nou, poti sa pleci cu el sau trebuie sa te duci cu el la RAR pe o platforma?
La orice de la 125cc in sus putem emite numere roșii direct în showroom, este un cost destul de mic plus RCA pe 3 luni (3 luni sunt valabile și numerele roșii). Noi avem și ca serviciu posibilitatea de a face noi cartea fiind dealer avem un culoar mai rapid la RAR. Este 500 de lei all in și pleci cu cartea în mână, iar dacă țin bine minte numerele roșii sunt 100 de lei + RCA-ul care nu are preț fix fiindcă depinde de clasa ta de bonus (acel B0-B8) si de motocicleta/scuterul ales. Deci in principiu 600 de lei + RCA și pleci cu numere roșii valabile 3 luni și cartea în mână. La ce avem pe stoc avem deja cărțile emise pentru ca din experienta lumea vrea sa plece cu toate actele în brate și sa nu mai piardă timpul la rar (vreo 350 de lei este taxa la rar plus timpul pierdut juma de zi pe acolo)
@@RideWithAlex OK!!!!! Super! Ma temeam ca trebuie sa caut o platforma sa ma duc cu scuterul la RAR. Deocamdata fac scoala, dar odata ce am terminat, ma infiintez la Sym pentru un scuterica. Multumesc frumos pentru raspunsul prompt!
@@catalinp9176 poți sa ne vizitezi oricând începând de miercuri (luni și marți suntem închiși, plecam undeva, vor fi videouri pe canal 😂) nu trebuie sa ai școala terminata sa le vezi și sa vorbim scutere/motociclete, pe mine ma găsești acolo de regula în fiecare zi între orele 9-15
@@RideWithAlex Excelent, asa voi face. Vreau sa-mi fac o idee si sa vad modelele si in realitate pentru ca in mare parte sunt decis pentru Symphony ST125 LC dar as vrea sa vad si alte modele poate cine stie, imi schimb parerea. Multumesc frumos!
@@catalinp9176 Cât mai durează școala acum? Mă refer la timpul între înscriere și examen! / Vrei permisul de A1, sau direct A dacă tot sunt identice probele și în școală se folosesc motociclete mari? Mulțumesc anticipat de răspuns!
Salutare, este vreo diferenta intre jet 14 de 125/200cc si symphony tot de 125/200cc, in afara de cum arata?
Sunt cadre complet diferite, au o ciclistica diferita, poziția pe ele e complet diferita, motorizarea e singura chestie comuna în rest totul e diferit.
@@RideWithAlex urmeaza sa ma apuc si eu de scoala in vara (pentru A2) si intentionez sa iau un scuter, dar inca nu sunt hotarat ce model (ce sunt sigur, e ca, va fi un sym).
Also, multumesc pentru raspunsul foarte prompt!
Cheers!
@@instaaionut dacă vii pe la showroom poți sa le încerci sa te ajute sa te decizi :)
@@RideWithAlex Iti multumesc. Weekend placut!
Hello Alex. The scooter has the tachometer?
No, it doesn't have a tachometer, but honestly I don't miss it too much because I don't have to worry about changing gears, I let the transmission do it's thing.
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I am between the 125 L/C and the 200.because i live in Greece and the temperature, especially in summer ,is high i was going to go for the L/C 125 so it can keep it cool while it's 40-45°C .
I am also going to use it for work and i will be doing 100-150 klm per day on and off..
Do you believe i should go for the 200??
I think the 200 would handle it no problem, in the sumer I did 3 days of hard delivery work in 41+ degrees 10 hours per day about 500km total, and I rode really hard through the city to try to overheat it and nothing, it handled it just fine 🤷♂️. Honestly I am really happy I chose the 200, the only downside is that it drinks about 0.5L/100km more then the 125 l/c
@@RideWithAlex thanks my friend for your answer!i wish you the best and keep doing a great job with the videos!!
@@kostasbasias thank you, and I will, next week I will have some videos of a trip to the mountains I am doing this weekend with the ST 😁
@@RideWithAlex Nice!!i would like to see how it can handle uphill driving since i also drive a lot of hills! I believe the 1,5 Nm more will be better and easier to climb!
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@kostasbasias there will be a lot of climbing but I am pretty sure it will handle it just fine.
Best video because u show yourself driving from many angles
Thank you, I try to do as much as I can :)
@@RideWithAlex where do u live ? I would love to ride with you someday and share our passion for scooters
@@almak8785 Romania, Bucharest.
@@RideWithAlex im in cyprus, one day i want to visit :) have a great day Alex 🔥
Let me know if your in Romania at any point and we can go for a ride. Also you can get a hold of me easier with a direct message on Instagram. Link to my Instagram is in the description of the video :D
What about vibrations? Especially with the top box. Mine has a lot of them at low revs. ? I cannot even see by the mirrors clearly. ?
Vibrations I have only on idle, as soon as I set of it's perfectly fine.
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Melodia de la inceput zici ca e din filmele cu Van Damme
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Microphone is terrible when riding... Price? Max speed?
I know the mic is bad it will soon get fixed :D. Price is 3145 euro and top speed is 110km/h
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The abs is from continental my friend,not from bosch
You are corect, the previous models had Bosch ABS and it got stuck in my head this new one has the same :)
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price 125 cc
2900 euro
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It's official I hate both my SYM scooters they are pieces of shit DO NOT BUY SYM scooters back in 2020 I purchased 2 brand new scooters from the local Sym dealership in Darwin Northern Territory Australia and both scooters have been the most unreliable scooters I have ever owned . I purchased a brand new SYM Jet4R 50cc 2 stroke and a brand new Sym symphony ST 200i 4 stroke they have both been problematic since day one
I paid $4500 for the symphony and $3000 for the Jet4R
Problems I have experienced with Sym symphony have been 1 month after purchase and 1500 km's the the digital gauge cluster was faulty and wasnt reading the correct speed I also copped two speeding fines $300 each from speed cameras before realising this problem so that was replaced under warranty
Second problem the drive belt not even 3000 km's and 3 months old disintegrated
Sym and the dealership refused me warranty stating drive belts are classed as a consumable items and is not covered under warranty that cost me $375 to replace
A month after getting the first drive belt replaced it disintegrated again and not even done 1000 km's and this time the dealership replaced it free of charge
Fast forward some months and Kilometers into 2021 buy this stage my Sym symphony has done about 6000km's and week after taking into the dealship for a full service my engine started making a horrible ticking/thumping noise took it back to the dealership and was told the main crank bearing has failed Sym replaced my engine with a brand new engine under warranty ... Lol the trouble didn't end there also upon picking up the scooter and taking home the spark plug popped out of the head and left me stranded , the wanker that replaced my engine didn't tighten/torque the plug correctly dealership quickly fixed this no charge
About a week later after the previous break down the scooter died again this time the spark plug cap rattled loose and popped off that was also replaced under warranty fuck me this scooter is so unreliable
Now fast forward to today and I have blowen my third drive belt, scooter has done 8500km's so I have roughly driven 4000ks since having the last drive belt replaced and I am yet to call the dealership to speak with them but I will tomorrow , according to the Sym service guide the drive belt should be replaced every 12000km's the previous three drive belts have all prematurely failed way before it's service interval is due .... Fuck me my scooter has not even done 10000km's and already three drive belts have failed
Now for the Jet4R 50cc 2t
It's been more reliable than the symphony but still had problems
After owning it for nearly 2 years at around the 8000km's the top end blew up took out the piston and cylinder head Sym dealership refused warranty stating I must have ran the oil tank dry , which I know I didn't because every time I fuel up the scooter I top up the oil tank and also the low oil light never illuminated on the gauge cluster . That costed me $600 to have the piston and head replaced
Fast forward a few months later after having that done the engine started sounding strange and I feared it could be another bearing faliure so b4 it got any worse I sold it off and basically passed the problem onto somebody else as I had had enough problems from the other scooter I own ...
Sym are very popular scooters in Australia and I did my research before I bought these scooters also had friends that ride other models and they all day Sym are just as good Honda n Yamaha in terms of quality and parts availability and service , my experience has been total hell 2 unreliable scooters . I am now going to sell off the Sym symphony because I am done with having such an unreliable scooter they haven't done 10000 km's and are less than 2 years old they are fuckinG LEMONS I RECOMMEND NOBODY PURCHASE ANY SYM SCOOTERS , A fucken Chinese Tao Tao SCOOTER is more reliable
So would any like to buy a 2020 sym symphony st 200i I have one for sale for $3500 from me ? Lol
Wow