Adoring the Sacrament - Do Lutherans Worship the Eucharist?
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Pastor Kind explains that it is indeed not a sin to adore the sacrament and reads some thoughts from St. Augustine and Luther on the subject. "We should sin if we did not!"
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Wonderful explanation. I am a convert and did not initially understand the bowing, but now I appreciate better the reverence and adoration Christ Jesus deserves.
God bless you. Jesus Christ Our Beloved Savior loves you, brother.
Thank God for His gift of Himself to us! I think bowing and genuflecting before the Eucharist is a beautiful way of confessing that we believe Christ is truly present with us in that moment. It can be easy to let the events of the Divine Service pass us by, but if more of us bow and show proper reverence, more people will be made aware that something truly holy is happening in these moments.
Excellent explanation, Fr. Kind. If we believe that Christ is truly present in the bread and wine, how could we not adore Him in the blesséd Sacrament?
Wonderfully explained. Glory be to Jesus Christ always!
Glad to see another video posted! Love this channel and need more content!
Great!
I was listening to podcast a few months ago, which i had to stop because it cracked me up. One Cat is a Lutheran Pastor, the other was a Baptist and they talk and run the podcast. Have for years.
"We Lutherans are super Sacrament bros."
"You people never shut up about them!".
Not an attack on the Lutherans,.
Amen
Thank you!! Please share the reference to the quote from Dr. Martin Luther…
Quick question out of curiosity, I just want to hear your thoughts, how do Lutherans respond to the apostolic teaching found in the book of Acts chapter 15? The Council of Jerusalem was meeting to discuss the Gentiles and how they should behave. Their conclusion is given by Acts 15:29 "You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things."
I have a question, hopefully I get a charitable answer. If Lutheranism teaches Sola Scriptura, where is the concept of consubstantiation in the Bible? And I don't mean wether if Christ is in the Eucharist, but the explanation of the way that He is present. I mean wether the "how" is biblical, not the "what".
If Jesus said "this is my Body" and "this is my Blood" instead of the concept of consubstantiation that would be "this is my Body and bread alongside" and "this is my Blood and wine alongside". Otherwise, how does Sola Scriptura still hold.
A very good question you pose. Consubstantiation is based on the words of St. Paul when he asks he rhetorical question, the bread which we break is it not the body of Christ, the cup we bless is not the communion in the blood of Christ? Since Paul speaks of bread and cup many say that both substances are in the sacrament (body and bread, blood and wine) hence consubstantiation. However Paul's point is not to prove that the bread remains along with the body, but rather that the bread IS the body of Christ. I frankly have no idea whether the bread and wine remain such in the Sacrament. I am absolutely certain that the Sacrament is Christ's Body and Blood. The mechanics of this remain a mystery.
Luther actually speaks against “raising the host” why do some still practice it?
Womderful
Curious: if bowing down to the sacrament is worship, when one bows to the processional cross, or perhaps altar, is this not some form of iconodulia?
Where is the Luther quote from?
More Roman Catholicism creeping into the Luther Church.
Worshipping the elements?
Yes, Christ's true body and blood are in, with, and under the bread and the wine. But we do not worship them.
● Luther's Small Catechism (CPH 1943) Pg. 197 question 364. Are we to adore the bread and the wine in the Sacrament?
Answer: We are NOT to adore the bread and the wine; for the Lord has declared that we should eat the bread and drink the wine.
Elevating the elements?
No, we don't do that either.
● From Pastoral Theology by John H.C. Fritz, D. D. (CPH 1932) pg. 129. When concentrating the elements, it is customary, as the words "He took bread" are spoken, that the minister with his hand touch the plate of wafers or SLIGHTLY lift it from the altar and continue to do so until he speaks the words "This is My body," when he makes the sign of the cross over wafers on the plate and in the wafer box. Likewise when the words "He took the cup" are spoken, the minister touches the chalice or SLIGHTLY lifts it from the altar and continues to do so until the words "This is My blood" are spoken, when he makes the sign of the cross over the chalice and the flagon."
Also, Christ is also present during non communion worship services as well.
Matthew 18:20 NKJV
"For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
It is not worship. It is a recognition of the presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper.
@danbratten Thank you for actually knowing Lutheran theology
The Eucharist is not the wafer. It is not the Host. It is not the unleavened bread. The Eucharist is the ritual through which the bread and wine are consecrated. The Eucharist is not a physical object. Similarly, a sacrament is a means of grace for the Christian. It is not a physical object. Therefore, no one can "adore the sacrament." Neither can one "worship the Eucharist." I have been to many many Lutheran churches in my lifetime, and I have never once seen a Lutheran pastor genuflect at the altar before the consecrated host. Catholic and Episcopal priests do this.
Luther's Small Catechism teaches something quite different, as does the Lutheran Church: "What is the Sacrament of the Altar? It is the true body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ under the bread and wine, instituted by Christ Himself for us Christians to eat and to drink." By the word "true" Lutherans mean the actual physical body of Jesus.
Weird because every confessional Lutheran Church I’ve been to the Pastor genuflects at the Altar (including the laity).
@Paul-el4zd every confessional Lutheran Church I've been to none of the pastors genuflect at the altar.
@@danbratten3103 I do realize there are a lot of Lutheran churches that are liturgical minimalist. CFW Walther wrote an excellent article: Does Old Lutheranism Lead to Rome. Sadly, a lot of American Lutheranism has watered down their liturgical heritage.
@Paul-el4zd from a post of mine on this video elsewhere 👇🏻
Worshipping the elements?
Yes, Christ's true body and blood are in, with, and under the bread and the wine. But we do not worship them.
● Luther's Small Catechism (CPH 1943) Pg. 197 question 364. Are we to adore the bread and the wine in the Sacrament?
Answer: We are NOT to adore the bread and the wine; for the Lord has declared that we should eat the bread and drink the wine.
Elevating the elements?
No, we don't do that either.
● From Pastoral Theology by John H.C. Fritz, D. D. (CPH 1932) pg. 129. When concentrating the elements, it is customary, as the words "He took bread" are spoken, that the minister with his hand touch the plate of wafers or SLIGHTLY lift it from the altar and continue to do so until he speaks the words "This is My body," when he makes the sign of the cross over wafers on the plate and in the wafer box. Likewise when the words "He took the cup" are spoken, the minister touches the chalice or SLIGHTLY lifts it from the altar and continues to do so until the words "This is My blood" are spoken, when he makes the sign of the cross over the chalice and the flagon."
Also, Christ is also present during non communion worship services as well.
Matthew 18:20 NKJV
"For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
But I will look into the Walther article you mentioned and I kindly thank you for that.
Blessings to you in Christ from an "Old Missouri Lutheran".
Amen