I think in reality we got the flag from the pope for doing the northern crusade. but amazing story. And I think if you look up "flag from the sky", it`s not a very unique story.
as a Dane how can you not believe our king and bishop prayed and the flag fell from the heavnes? sounds completely normal and not like propadanga in any way. just god throwing down a flag, standard very real story hehe :D
Harold Bluetooth (Harald Blåtand) is the namesake of Bluetooth on your phone. The Bluetooth logo is his initials, and the reasoning for using that name is that he "connected and united the Danes"
The painting with the flag falling from the sky, is probably the most well known painting in Denmark. It is actually pretty big. And one correction to the video; The Danish flag, Dannebrog, is the oldest continued used *state* flag in existence, not the oldest flag.
So, I noticed that you made a comment atbout Harald Bluetooth, and I can guess that you thought about the bluetooth technology, and that is actually named after that danish king. And if you take the old nordic runes for Harald and bluetooth and combine them, then you get the bluetooth logo. which I think is very interesting. And quite honestly I don't believe in the legend at all, but I do think it is a cool story.
It is a well-known story among Danes, and celebrated every year on June 15 (known as Valdemarsdag), where flags are flown on public buildings, busses ect. and small flags are sold to support charity. Before Dannebrog, the Danes ofen used a red banner with a black raven on it - known as the raven-banner, but at this time Denmark was not as such a united kingdom, but more divided among chieftains, and the Raven-banner was only used in united campaigns.
@@CyrusDemarVi havde også om sydamerika, vikinger i grønland, afrika og meget mere. Jeg husker dog ikke så meget anden verdenskrig. Ved vi havde det, men har lært så meget mere ved at se anden verdenskrig i farver. 😁
@@CyrusDemar Men der er jo flag i kalenderen - - . Men min datter lærte heller ikke de ting - - nu er hun ude og spille med sit orkester på Valdemars Dag - så det har ændret sig. - hun er 10 år yngre end dig.
no... Denmark have been a united kingdom since before 800 AD (thats recorded)... The flag is from 1219, = Denmark was united way before that flag... However, the dannebrog might be the first nation flag of Denmark. Because Kings had differend flags before this, and the nobility had their own flags too, those were used in battle too.
We do have another flag besides this one, it was introduced sometime in the 16th century, and usage codified in 1625, the navalflag, which uses a deeper red colour, because it doesn't bleach as fast in the sun, and is more visible at sea. But yeah, we don't change our flag.
One of the reasons Denmark still use the same flag is that there have been no revolutions by force since it was established in 970 or perhaps even further back. There have been wars and changing kings but never a question about the nation as a nation. Denmark is a kingdom as established by Gorm the old but really only united by his son Harald Bluetooth. The Danes as a people goes back to around 500 CE but as loosely connected tribes with their own chieftains.
@@bronwolff The further you go back in time the more true that becomes, but today Danes are a mix of tribes but mostly distinct from others as a people. Even when you look at DNA it's close between Danes and Swedes but distinctly different from Norwegians. But I see you point and there's no doubt in my mind that the 1864 defeat did produce some cultural traits not unlike those found in tribes.
before Dannebrog , the Danish flag was the raven flag , so yes we did have another , apart from the legend , Dannebrog was a crusader flag just like the flag of England
Fun fact: In Denmark there is a strict copyright policy regarding Danebrog. However, the Knightly order "Knights Hospitaler" who still exists and who was also present at the Northern Crusades is allowed to use it. Because it kind of used it first.
Dannebrog started out as the war banner of the HRE. The pope granted Denmark permission to use the war banner in the crusades against the baltic states and rather quickly it became known as the symbol of the Danes and took on a development process of its own, going from a square flag to an oblong flag.
The Greenlandic flag has a circle in it to signal the people's link to other indigeonis peoples of the high north, but is red and white to symbol the ties to Denmark. and to visually be a match with the Dannebrog, when both flags are flown together.
What I find kinda interesting is that the danish flag looks very much like the coat of arms for the County of Savoy (later Duchy of Savoy), which was a feudal state in the Kingdom of Burgundy near the Alps. As a dane I was confused the first time I saw it and I think its possible that it could have been an inspiration since the County of Savoy was created back in 1003.
Since it was a crusade, warrior monks were present. So it was likely a tabard, with the cross not on its side. That's how its often displayed to this day as well.
Long story short: Dannebrog is most likely just borrowed from the Knights Hospitaller. I live right around the corner from the monastery Antvorskov (In Slagelse, on Zealand) which is likely where the knights hospitaller monks brought the flag from. The monastery was an early type of hospital, and rich people would travel far and wide to receive treatment there, which was probably mostly hospice like treatment. Reason for the reformation was partly because of the indulgences that the catholic church used to extract money and land from the rich, and Antvorskov eventually owned most of the surrounding land because of rich people trying to pay their way into heaven. There's a flagpole up there which is touted as the tallest in Denmark, at least when it was inaugurated back when Dannebrog celebrated 750 years. It's 805 years old now. It's a shame it went to ruin around the 1800s due to Denmark being bankrupt after the Napoleonic wars, because it has a long history being converted to a "castle" after the reformation in the 1500s. And one can look up ("hussar", meaning "light cavalry") maps from the 1600s of the nearby areas, which is very cool.
A more realistic hypothesis is, that the white-cross-on-red background was a crusader standard (or perhaps a tabard or something), and that the Danish troops were unfocused because they couldn't see where to direct their effort. And when the leaders of the Danish side realised this, they used the cloth to demark the hill as their rallying point. And then, after the victory, they just kept it.
If I'm being generous, it could be a crusader standard that was ripped loose in the chaos of the battle and blew over to the king by chance. Who afterwards used it as you describe.
Exactly. The Order of Malta participated in the war as mercenaries for the Danish king. The flag is the standard of the Order of Malta. There are lots of "Danish flags" in Malta.
I think it did indeed came with the wind. But with a lack of knowledge about the meaning and origin and a strong insane belief in Christianity, might have led them to believe that it came from god. So the part of it being carried by the wind and landing where it did are correct. But everything else are false. Except for who won og course.
June the 15'th are also the birthday of our flag. We call it Valdemars dag (dag is day in Danish). So yeah. Oldest continues use of a national flag, but also a flag with it's own birthday.
It was the Monarchs flag for most of history, and the Danish Monrchy is over 1000 year. The flag did not become The Danish peoples flag until much later when nationalism and cultural identity blended with the flag as the symbol. As late as 1834 the Danish King even made it a degree/law that common Danes were banned from using the flag. It was for the nation use only (Monarchy, Military, Ships, Diplomacy, Royal buildings, Administrative centers....)
Obviously we don’t believe that it came from the sky… But we do believe/know that Valdemar brought the flag back to Denmark and it has been our flag, our utmost national symbol ever since. And to me - and many other - it’s the most beautiful flag in the world. The rest of the Nordic countries have since made their own flags based on it. 🇩🇰🇫🇴🇬🇱🇳🇴🇸🇪🇮🇸
Red and White were the highest contrast colors in the middle ages. So it was likely some knights standard that became the Danish flag. The real story is lost to history but one can imagine that a particular knight might have made a heroic move, or big sacrifice for his brothers, and to remember him the army decided to honor his particular standard.
The original flag most likely looked quite different and it probably was a German "Crusader Flag" taken home by the Danes? The Maltese claim it was a worn flag we got, as their present "Crusader Flag" has 4 equal rectangles!
Since it has the cross in it, it is by all accounts most likely linked to the crusades. And when Denmark and the other Nordic countries changed from vikings to christianity, the influence came from the south e.g. Germany. But I have never heard of the Danish flag being linked to the Maltese?
@@Ninebellsandalliswell German Crusaders fought close to King Valdemar/Vladimir and when arriving on Malta, as a Dane you feel at home with all those "Danish Flags" 😁. But they are The Crusaders Flags, and not the National Flag for Malta. Malta became the last place for the Crusaders to live and they still have many remnants from them.
It's a cross.they prayed and won the battle. God Designed the flag. Denmark is and have always been blessed.NO forest fire no hurricanes no earthquake,and we are rich and good 😊👍🇩🇰✝️
The danish flag refers to the imperial war flag of the Holy Roman Empire. Which was used when it was at war against heathen enemies. It is still in use as the coat of arms of Vienna: de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Wien_Wappen.svg The viking Danes were long-time enemies of that empire until they became christians. And once they had become christians they were enabled to wage holy wars and proudly took the flag in their fights against heathen neighbours to the north :) A reasonable decision, of course.
yeah and now you know where bluetooth on your phone is coming from. And yes we Danes dont think the story about the flag is as its told, but there is some truth to the story.
When it comes to anything danish that should be common knowledge in our country, i NEVER had history when I was younger, so for me even, this is news to me, i did not about the flag, but for example the battle of valdamar, never knew that, knew about harald blåtand (bluetooth) so people saying "yes, this is common knowledge, everyone knows about it" not really, it might have been if u had history in classes, but not everyone had back then (early 2000s 1990s)
The Danish flag is the oldest flag still in use. No Harald Blåtand really didn't christianed the danes. He added a new god to the 25 we already had. In parts of the Danish kingdom you in the 18th century (far up i Norway and on the Faroe Islands) could find people who believed in the old gods of Odin and Tor and their family ..
Historical sources indicate that it was actually just a banner from a nearby fortress that blew away and landed on the battlefield at the right moment. Then again, historical sources also indicate that Jesus Christ was a street magician with a cult following and a god-complex --- However, legends and magic are much more fun
It is just a legend. Maybe hospitallers that were active in the region saved Valdemar IIs butt. They flew a red banner with a white cross (among others) at the time. The earliest actual depiction of the Dannebrog is from Valdemar IV's crest more than a hundred years later.
At 0506 not tying to ruin this story but to the left of the flag pole you see the air balloon that dropped the flag. Also if you look closer at the point of the spear you see a jet turning towards the balloon then seconds later shot it down. Also to more jets sweeping the same area are pulling high G's g pulling left engaging that same balloon. It's an amassing painting. Sorry I just tried to emphasis whats really makes this "painting" interesting is probably the Kingdom of Denmark first attempt to the spreading of ideas (Canons Regula). My guess is that this idea came from Honorius after a less successful encounter. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Orderen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Order
obviously it did not fall from the heavens. it is likely a banner of a christian house that followed the crusading host from denmark. Somehow during the battle it has become a banner picked up by the king or bishop then leading the troops then becoming the "official" banner. war hosts would have a lot of different heraldry on banners at this time to tell friend from foe and lord from lord on the field of battle (this is one of the more likely stories).
5:55 Yeah. That is the story we are told. But it is also told in school, that it is most likely not true. It is just, we are told that we dont know it for sure, but this is the only story we really have from history back despite it not being true. But it is a bad ass story as such. More bad ass than a woman sitting and making it. Also a story that are not true, as there are other stories that seem more likely. See these as a kind of fairy tale kind of story. A small funny one if you like. At least that is how we percieve the story of our flag today. Most likely it was a local banner that had been torn off by wind from a local monistary or something, that just happened to land where it did. And we the Danes thought it cam from god. That it landed might be true, but the understanding of how and why and where it came from, where wrongfully percieved as a sign from and a gift from god.
Thus rasing ones arms at football and shouting gives luck!. It also happens to corelates with winning a goal. 😂 so clearly the legend is true. Yes we know the flag legend... it is the story of our flag. And it has not changed since.
The Danish naval flag does not have a tongue, because a Swede tore it away in a naval battle, and the condition for peace was that they did not use a tongue any more.
Not true, the Danish navel do uses 3 flags the Dannebrog (The Swallow-tailed Flag), the normale Dannebrog (The square Flag) and the Orlogsflaget (The Naval Ensign flag) also a swallow tailed flag but in a darker red (RGB #992135 instead of RGB #CE1126 that is the normale red) to stand out more. Even looking at older ships in pictures and paintings you can see them use the Swallow-tailed Flag too. It's more about what ship it is and what time it is. You as a private person can also use a swallow tailed flag, if it's a yacht flag. But the Royal Navy is the only one allowed to use the Orlogsflaget, where as the merchant navy uses the normal square one. I don't know you told this myth but it isn't true.
Just to show it. www.forsvaret.dk/globalassets/fko---forsvaret/billeder/billeder-til-nyheder/artikel/2024/02-februar/-op-prosperity-guadian-2024-artikel.jpg upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Battle_of_K%C3%B8ge_Bay_%281677%29.jpg
Of Course we believe the story, are you claiming that story told by religious fanatics 900 years ago is not completely accurate. And yes everybody in Denmark knows this story.
They most likely got/made the flag in that battle..... but of course it didnt fall from the heavens... Who made it, and why, we will problably never know, might have been the King who designed it and like it, and to give it "power" he and the Bishop made up a cool story... Even so its our flag and has been for a LOOOOOOOONG time- And yeah most Danes would know it fell from the heavens... wheter they can name the King, Place or Year is another story lol Also, why would we really change it? Denmark has been one nation, under the same family of Kings since at least Gorm the Old (Father of Harald Bluetooth)
well the order of the , johanniterne. they used the Red cloth with White cross. they was in that area also. meaning they was in lethaur and not that far away to help the danish and germen troops to take the crusade. Think that is more right that maybe a high knight of that order falled in the battle and someone grab a spear and added the flag to. Some of what also was written within this story is that when the danes came and started to babtise the logals they claimed they already had been babtised by some other. But again the story is how a lost and overpowered army find the moral and the faith to win the battle. and legend used by the church and kings to make the people fight in battles even that after we have been known to lose and then lose some more in battles pawn out some of Denmark to Slevgsvig and Holstein Nobles. and then we had some more kings get assassenated, and back to losing battles and pay ransom to Swedan for war damage. and havent really won any battle in that periode before Magrathe 1. that without fighting but her political genious got Kalman trety mady. well back to winning little and losing some more till in 1804 til 1808 first lost our fleed to admiral nielson and then terrorbombed as first nation in new'er history by England in Copenhagen. well we got a Draw in 1848 war with germans in Slegsvig holstein. to lose it again in 1864. and get some back in 1920 after germans first WW. Again dont believe in that the flag was send down from God. But created under the battle to gattering the danish troops to fight. from being spread out thin. and made it possible to breakt throw the lines and win.
The Swedes did agree to join the Kalmar union. And they choose to leave eventually. And yes, we have all three been at each others throats through history. Sweden invading Denmark, the Danish king beheading the Swedish nobels in the Stockholmian bloodbath. We are just lucky that fighting today, are done with irony and humour. Jävle Dansker and Fulde Svensker. Norwegians may also have bad words for the Danes, as well as Danes call the Norwegian's Fjæll aber. Mostly the fighting are done on the football field today.
@@brostenen I believe this use of the three Lions were part of some of the many peace negotiations between Denmark and Sweden back in the day (lots of wars - thus lots of peace negotiations). Guess who brought this shield issue up?
@peterkragelund4794 Just looked it up. It is not the lions, but the crowns that are associated with some beef between Sweden and Denmark. The three crowns where a symbol of the Kalmar union, byt Sweden allowed Denmark to continue using it, in exchange for Denmark to not refer to them as a Danish superiority over Sweden. The Lions on the other hand, have been in use for many years. Three Lions have been used since at least 1190 or probably earlier. Redesignet many times, also when Denmark gave up Norway and handed it to Sweden around 1809'ish. So yeah peace treaty, but the use of three lions are way older. It is just the design and meaning behind, that have changed during the years.
@peterkragelund4794 Both have changed meaning, so I dont see any issue at all. 😉 But yeah. The use of crowns and lions, are an integral part of our history. And without what we have in the past, we would not be so well off today. All a fluid devellopment that have taken some 1000 years plus.
It's a classic propaganda myth that turned into folklore. Valdemar was a greedy ruler seeking land and loot, and being able to cloak these ambitions as honorable crusading was, as is well known, very popular at that time (just think of the contemporary crusades to the Holy Land, and esp. the marvelous shitshow of the 4th crusade a few years earlier). The myth turns to folklore, which then turns to useful nationalist history in early modern times - absolutely classic, every nation and culture knows these types of stories.
We had a Norse banner before but it didnt really represent Denmark as Danes or as a united Nation. Dannebrog does. Who would change a flag given to you by God himself, only in modern times have thoughts of change come but even now we are stubborn traditionalist I mean we even keep the royalty even though everyone is considered equals here
lol it's religious bs. im danish, and we have a Cross in the flag, aka a torture tool. Not really proud of it. The oldest known Danish flag was the Raven Flag.
It was probably white cloak soaked in blood picked up by strong wind from sea and when opened by wind showed something close to white cross on red what Danes took as sign from heaven of course later they stylised it into current form.
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I think in reality we got the flag from the pope for doing the northern crusade. but amazing story. And I think if you look up "flag from the sky", it`s not a very unique story.
as a Dane how can you not believe our king and bishop prayed and the flag fell from the heavnes? sounds completely normal and not like propadanga in any way. just god throwing down a flag, standard very real story hehe :D
Harold Bluetooth (Harald Blåtand) is the namesake of Bluetooth on your phone. The Bluetooth logo is his initials, and the reasoning for using that name is that he "connected and united the Danes"
The painting with the flag falling from the sky, is probably the most well known painting in Denmark. It is actually pretty big.
And one correction to the video; The Danish flag, Dannebrog, is the oldest continued used *state* flag in existence, not the oldest flag.
"...is the oldest continued used state flag in existence, not the oldest flag." And that is what the video starts out saying at 1:10.
@KurtFrederiksen No, the video says it's the oldest flag, period.
@@akyhne Stupid, I even gave the point in the video. All you needed were to click on the link YT made.
@@akyhne YT even gave you a link from my time stamp. All you had to do were to click it!
@@KurtFrederiksen I did. It doesn't say what you think it says.
true, hi from Denmark
So, I noticed that you made a comment atbout Harald Bluetooth, and I can guess that you thought about the bluetooth technology, and that is actually named after that danish king. And if you take the old nordic runes for Harald and bluetooth and combine them, then you get the bluetooth logo. which I think is very interesting.
And quite honestly I don't believe in the legend at all, but I do think it is a cool story.
I believe that more than all the large religions of the world and I'm an atheist.
It is a well-known story among Danes, and celebrated every year on June 15 (known as Valdemarsdag), where flags are flown on public buildings, busses ect. and small flags are sold to support charity.
Before Dannebrog, the Danes ofen used a red banner with a black raven on it - known as the raven-banner, but at this time Denmark was not as such a united kingdom, but more divided among chieftains, and the Raven-banner was only used in united campaigns.
As a dane. I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't know about Valdemarsdag. 😔 And I'm 50... Damn you history teacher for only talking aout the 2nd WW.
Dang..... You came before me. Just wrote it and wanted to browse through the comments... But hey, is what it is. 😁
@@CyrusDemarVi havde også om sydamerika, vikinger i grønland, afrika og meget mere. Jeg husker dog ikke så meget anden verdenskrig. Ved vi havde det, men har lært så meget mere ved at se anden verdenskrig i farver. 😁
@@CyrusDemar Men der er jo flag i kalenderen - - . Men min datter lærte heller ikke de ting - - nu er hun ude og spille med sit orkester på Valdemars Dag - så det har ændret sig. - hun er 10 år yngre end dig.
no... Denmark have been a united kingdom since before 800 AD (thats recorded)... The flag is from 1219, = Denmark was united way before that flag... However, the dannebrog might be the first nation flag of Denmark. Because Kings had differend flags before this, and the nobility had their own flags too, those were used in battle too.
We did kick ass in the old days
We do have another flag besides this one, it was introduced sometime in the 16th century, and usage codified in 1625, the navalflag, which uses a deeper red colour, because it doesn't bleach as fast in the sun, and is more visible at sea. But yeah, we don't change our flag.
Thumbs up.
Not alot pf people know that about the Danish ensign.
Old sailor?
The split flag is beautifull.
One of the reasons Denmark still use the same flag is that there have been no revolutions by force since it was established in 970 or perhaps even further back. There have been wars and changing kings but never a question about the nation as a nation. Denmark is a kingdom as established by Gorm the old but really only united by his son Harald Bluetooth. The Danes as a people goes back to around 500 CE but as loosely connected tribes with their own chieftains.
Anthropoligist says danes are not a people, but a tribe... sometimes i tend to agree
@@bronwolff The further you go back in time the more true that becomes, but today Danes are a mix of tribes but mostly distinct from others as a people. Even when you look at DNA it's close between Danes and Swedes but distinctly different from Norwegians.
But I see you point and there's no doubt in my mind that the 1864 defeat did produce some cultural traits not unlike those found in tribes.
Also when you get it right the first time, no reason to change
All Danes know the story - and the pronunciation of Dannebrog is Dan-ne-bro the g isn't pronounced
Brog is an old word for cloth. So cloth of the Danes = Dannebrog.
before Dannebrog , the Danish flag was the raven flag , so yes we did have another , apart from the legend , Dannebrog was a crusader flag just like the flag of England
16:03 big parts of sweden and most of norway i believe was under the danish crown for a period , so that is mayby why their flags look similar
Fun fact:
In Denmark there is a strict copyright policy regarding Danebrog. However, the Knightly order "Knights Hospitaler" who still exists and who was also present at the Northern Crusades is allowed to use it. Because it kind of used it first.
Dannebrog started out as the war banner of the HRE. The pope granted Denmark permission to use the war banner in the crusades against the baltic states and rather quickly it became known as the symbol of the Danes and took on a development process of its own, going from a square flag to an oblong flag.
The off set of the cross is to make it look more dynamic when a flag is waving in the wind..
The Greenlandic flag has a circle in it to signal the people's link to other indigeonis peoples of the high north, but is red and white to symbol the ties to Denmark. and to visually be a match with the Dannebrog, when both flags are flown together.
The split circle represents the sun, dark in winter and up all time in summer!
The coin that contained the 3 crones
That was from the time of the calmar union... Witch alsow explains the Norwegian Lion with the axe
It is a bit like in school when someone asked you if they could copy your homework, and you say yes but change it a bit.
From my very limited knowledge, the Nordic flags (with the cross) are different sizes as well. So not just the colours has changed.
Proportions.
What I find kinda interesting is that the danish flag looks very much like the coat of arms for the County of Savoy (later Duchy of Savoy), which was a feudal state in the Kingdom of Burgundy near the Alps.
As a dane I was confused the first time I saw it and I think its possible that it could have been an inspiration since the County of Savoy was created back in 1003.
Since it was a crusade, warrior monks were present. So it was likely a tabard, with the cross not on its side. That's how its often displayed to this day as well.
It is the oldest flag of countries. There are older flags. But they are not for countries.
I think this whole thing, is where national flag are understood as the default. Not flag as a general term.
no no God himself gave it to us.. Facts
And Absalon was absolutely and Man of God And God Was with him.
My family's code of arms dates back to 1366, so almost as old. Although back then the family lived in Germany.
Long story short: Dannebrog is most likely just borrowed from the Knights Hospitaller.
I live right around the corner from the monastery Antvorskov (In Slagelse, on Zealand) which is likely where the knights hospitaller monks brought the flag from. The monastery was an early type of hospital, and rich people would travel far and wide to receive treatment there, which was probably mostly hospice like treatment. Reason for the reformation was partly because of the indulgences that the catholic church used to extract money and land from the rich, and Antvorskov eventually owned most of the surrounding land because of rich people trying to pay their way into heaven. There's a flagpole up there which is touted as the tallest in Denmark, at least when it was inaugurated back when Dannebrog celebrated 750 years. It's 805 years old now. It's a shame it went to ruin around the 1800s due to Denmark being bankrupt after the Napoleonic wars, because it has a long history being converted to a "castle" after the reformation in the 1500s. And one can look up ("hussar", meaning "light cavalry") maps from the 1600s of the nearby areas, which is very cool.
A more realistic hypothesis is, that the white-cross-on-red background was a crusader standard (or perhaps a tabard or something), and that the Danish troops were unfocused because they couldn't see where to direct their effort. And when the leaders of the Danish side realised this, they used the cloth to demark the hill as their rallying point. And then, after the victory, they just kept it.
If I'm being generous, it could be a crusader standard that was ripped loose in the chaos of the battle and blew over to the king by chance. Who afterwards used it as you describe.
Exactly. The Order of Malta participated in the war as mercenaries for the Danish king. The flag is the standard of the Order of Malta.
There are lots of "Danish flags" in Malta.
@@hildajensen6263 Yes, pretty much. Except I don't feel the need to speculate about, how the cloth came to be there.
I think it did indeed came with the wind. But with a lack of knowledge about the meaning and origin and a strong insane belief in Christianity, might have led them to believe that it came from god. So the part of it being carried by the wind and landing where it did are correct. But everything else are false. Except for who won og course.
This is endeed rhe story, and the day is still celebrated in denmark, as valdemars day
As a Dane, I just think it was some knights cape that flew of in the wind and then fell down, and was interpreted as to boost the troops.
The banner that became "Dannebrog" was a banner from the "Knights Hospitaller" that part is left out, of the story
The Flag came from God. So is it said, so it is true. :oD
June the 15'th are also the birthday of our flag. We call it Valdemars dag (dag is day in Danish). So yeah. Oldest continues use of a national flag, but also a flag with it's own birthday.
It was the Monarchs flag for most of history, and the Danish Monrchy is over 1000 year. The flag did not become The Danish peoples flag until much later when nationalism and cultural identity blended with the flag as the symbol. As late as 1834 the Danish King even made it a degree/law that common Danes were banned from using the flag. It was for the nation use only (Monarchy, Military, Ships, Diplomacy, Royal buildings, Administrative centers....)
The oldest recorded ❤
bout 30 years ago i was taught that story in school.
I love Danish history probably because of Danish 🇩🇰
Obviously we don’t believe that it came from the sky… But we do believe/know that Valdemar brought the flag back to Denmark and it has been our flag, our utmost national symbol ever since. And to me - and many other - it’s the most beautiful flag in the world. The rest of the Nordic countries have since made their own flags based on it. 🇩🇰🇫🇴🇬🇱🇳🇴🇸🇪🇮🇸
Fyi We had another flag befor "Dannebrog" it was called "Ravnefanen"
Red and White were the highest contrast colors in the middle ages. So it was likely some knights standard that became the Danish flag. The real story is lost to history but one can imagine that a particular knight might have made a heroic move, or big sacrifice for his brothers, and to remember him the army decided to honor his particular standard.
The original flag most likely looked quite different and it probably was a German "Crusader Flag" taken home by the Danes? The Maltese claim it was a worn flag we got, as their present "Crusader Flag" has 4 equal rectangles!
Since it has the cross in it, it is by all accounts most likely linked to the crusades. And when Denmark and the other Nordic countries changed from vikings to christianity, the influence came from the south e.g. Germany. But I have never heard of the Danish flag being linked to the Maltese?
@@Ninebellsandalliswell German Crusaders fought close to King Valdemar/Vladimir and when arriving on Malta, as a Dane you feel at home with all those "Danish Flags" 😁. But they are The Crusaders Flags, and not the National Flag for Malta. Malta became the last place for the Crusaders to live and they still have many remnants from them.
Stories around the flag in nordic countries is quite simuler, than it comeback too the cross.
It's a cross.they prayed and won the battle. God Designed the flag. Denmark is and have always been blessed.NO forest fire no hurricanes no earthquake,and we are rich and good 😊👍🇩🇰✝️
The story about the bishop raising his hands is a direct copy of a story in the old testament. Exodus 17:11-13
The danish flag refers to the imperial war flag of the Holy Roman Empire. Which was used when it was at war against heathen enemies. It is still in use as the coat of arms of Vienna:
de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Wien_Wappen.svg
The viking Danes were long-time enemies of that empire until they became christians. And once they had become christians they were enabled to wage holy wars and proudly took the flag in their fights against heathen neighbours to the north :)
A reasonable decision, of course.
Newer heard any one claim it`s the oldest flag. Just longest consecutive use.
A lot of us Danes, think that the flag belonged to some local lord.
yeah and now you know where bluetooth on your phone is coming from.
And yes we Danes dont think the story about the flag is as its told, but there is some truth to the story.
Don’t matter if the story sounds real or not…. The history about the Danish Flag are a legend… and it still stands proud… that’s that’s matters…. 🤘🤘🤘👍
One thing he mentioned that's wrong in his video, was that saying Finland is Scandinavian. It's not. It's a Nordic Uralic country.
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myth or legend.. we still worship it
When it comes to anything danish that should be common knowledge in our country, i NEVER had history when I was younger, so for me even, this is news to me, i did not about the flag, but for example the battle of valdamar, never knew that, knew about harald blåtand (bluetooth) so people saying "yes, this is common knowledge, everyone knows about it" not really, it might have been if u had history in classes, but not everyone had back then (early 2000s 1990s)
The Danish flag is the oldest flag still in use. No Harald Blåtand really didn't christianed the danes. He added a new god to the 25 we already had. In parts of the Danish kingdom you in the 18th century (far up i Norway and on the Faroe Islands) could find people who believed in the old gods of Odin and Tor and their family ..
Do we believe that??? Yeah - like we believe the Bible!!!! 🤣
Greetings from Denmark.
Actually I kind of believe It Greetings for Denmark as well.
P.S My Father actually was safe by an Angel True Story.
Historical sources indicate that it was actually just a banner from a nearby fortress that blew away and landed on the battlefield at the right moment.
Then again, historical sources also indicate that Jesus Christ was a street magician with a cult following and a god-complex --- However, legends and magic are much more fun
It is just a legend. Maybe hospitallers that were active in the region saved Valdemar IIs butt. They flew a red banner with a white cross (among others) at the time.
The earliest actual depiction of the Dannebrog is from Valdemar IV's crest more than a hundred years later.
At 0506 not tying to ruin this story but to the left of the flag pole you see the air balloon that dropped the flag. Also if you look closer at the point of the spear you see a jet turning towards the balloon then seconds later shot it down. Also to more jets sweeping the same area are pulling high G's g pulling left engaging that same balloon. It's an amassing painting.
Sorry I just tried to emphasis whats really makes this "painting" interesting is probably the Kingdom of Denmark first attempt to the spreading of ideas (Canons Regula). My guess is that this idea came from Honorius after a less successful encounter.
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from denmark her, its the true story. i am from denmark
"denbrå" 🤣
Yes, we all know the story, no, no-one actually believes it's literally true here in Denmark..
its totally true
Why change something that's already perfect? I might be slightly biased considering I've lived in Denmark my whole life. 😂
No they didt not Copy.Denmsrk had part of Norway Russia England Island Greenland Færøerne Sweden and other country parts also.
the knight templars of john has the same flag possibly older last remaining churches is on the island of Malta
obviously it did not fall from the heavens. it is likely a banner of a christian house that followed the crusading host from denmark. Somehow during the battle it has become a banner picked up by the king or bishop then leading the troops then becoming the "official" banner. war hosts would have a lot of different heraldry on banners at this time to tell friend from foe and lord from lord on the field of battle (this is one of the more likely stories).
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Yeah. That is the story we are told. But it is also told in school, that it is most likely not true. It is just, we are told that we dont know it for sure, but this is the only story we really have from history back despite it not being true.
But it is a bad ass story as such. More bad ass than a woman sitting and making it. Also a story that are not true, as there are other stories that seem more likely.
See these as a kind of fairy tale kind of story. A small funny one if you like. At least that is how we percieve the story of our flag today. Most likely it was a local banner that had been torn off by wind from a local monistary or something, that just happened to land where it did. And we the Danes thought it cam from god. That it landed might be true, but the understanding of how and why and where it came from, where wrongfully percieved as a sign from and a gift from god.
Thus rasing ones arms at football and shouting gives luck!. It also happens to corelates with winning a goal.
😂 so clearly the legend is true.
Yes we know the flag legend... it is the story of our flag.
And it has not changed since.
yea true
God made the flag for Denmark, friend. And yes, every Dane knows this story.
Danes and Estonians know this....
It's kinda a joke that we stole it from them, and that is why they also want to be seen as a Nordic country today.
Its true !!!
The Danish naval flag does not have a tongue, because a Swede tore it away in a naval battle, and the condition for peace was that they did not use a tongue any more.
Not true, the Danish navel do uses 3 flags the Dannebrog (The Swallow-tailed Flag), the normale Dannebrog (The square Flag) and the Orlogsflaget (The Naval Ensign flag) also a swallow tailed flag but in a darker red (RGB #992135 instead of RGB #CE1126 that is the normale red) to stand out more. Even looking at older ships in pictures and paintings you can see them use the Swallow-tailed Flag too. It's more about what ship it is and what time it is.
You as a private person can also use a swallow tailed flag, if it's a yacht flag. But the Royal Navy is the only one allowed to use the Orlogsflaget, where as the merchant navy uses the normal square one. I don't know you told this myth but it isn't true.
Just to show it.
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upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Battle_of_K%C3%B8ge_Bay_%281677%29.jpg
Am in direct Family whit Svend Forbered 🇩🇰✝️
Of Course we believe the story, are you claiming that story told by religious fanatics 900 years ago is not completely accurate. And yes everybody in Denmark knows this story.
They most likely got/made the flag in that battle..... but of course it didnt fall from the heavens... Who made it, and why, we will problably never know, might have been the King who designed it and like it, and to give it "power" he and the Bishop made up a cool story...
Even so its our flag and has been for a LOOOOOOOONG time-
And yeah most Danes would know it fell from the heavens... wheter they can name the King, Place or Year is another story lol
Also, why would we really change it? Denmark has been one nation, under the same family of Kings since at least Gorm the Old (Father of Harald Bluetooth)
well the order of the , johanniterne. they used the Red cloth with White cross. they was in that area also. meaning they was in lethaur and not that far away to help the danish and germen troops to take the crusade. Think that is more right that maybe a high knight of that order falled in the battle and someone grab a spear and added the flag to.
Some of what also was written within this story is that when the danes came and started to babtise the logals they claimed they already had been babtised by some other.
But again the story is how a lost and overpowered army find the moral and the faith to win the battle. and legend used by the church and kings to make the people fight in battles even that after we have been known to lose and then lose some more in battles pawn out some of Denmark to Slevgsvig and Holstein Nobles. and then we had some more kings get assassenated, and back to losing battles and pay ransom to Swedan for war damage. and havent really won any battle in that periode before Magrathe 1. that without fighting but her political genious got Kalman trety mady. well back to winning little and losing some more till in 1804 til 1808 first lost our fleed to admiral nielson and then terrorbombed as first nation in new'er history by England in Copenhagen. well we got a Draw in 1848 war with germans in Slegsvig holstein. to lose it again in 1864. and get some back in 1920 after germans first WW.
Again dont believe in that the flag was send down from God. But created under the battle to gattering the danish troops to fight. from being spread out thin. and made it possible to breakt throw the lines and win.
3 crowns because we ruled you and the swedes under Magrethe the first
Denmark for a long time claimed ownership of Sweden, thus the Three Crowns were included in the Danish National Shield - annoying the Swedes a lot.
The Swedes did agree to join the Kalmar union. And they choose to leave eventually. And yes, we have all three been at each others throats through history. Sweden invading Denmark, the Danish king beheading the Swedish nobels in the Stockholmian bloodbath.
We are just lucky that fighting today, are done with irony and humour. Jävle Dansker and Fulde Svensker. Norwegians may also have bad words for the Danes, as well as Danes call the Norwegian's Fjæll aber.
Mostly the fighting are done on the football field today.
@@brostenen I believe this use of the three Lions were part of some of the many peace negotiations between Denmark and Sweden back in the day (lots of wars - thus lots of peace negotiations).
Guess who brought this shield issue up?
@peterkragelund4794 Just looked it up. It is not the lions, but the crowns that are associated with some beef between Sweden and Denmark. The three crowns where a symbol of the Kalmar union, byt Sweden allowed Denmark to continue using it, in exchange for Denmark to not refer to them as a Danish superiority over Sweden.
The Lions on the other hand, have been in use for many years. Three Lions have been used since at least 1190 or probably earlier. Redesignet many times, also when Denmark gave up Norway and handed it to Sweden around 1809'ish. So yeah peace treaty, but the use of three lions are way older. It is just the design and meaning behind, that have changed during the years.
@@brostenen Sorry, I meant the Crowns, not the Lions - they were not at problem for anyone.
@peterkragelund4794 Both have changed meaning, so I dont see any issue at all. 😉 But yeah. The use of crowns and lions, are an integral part of our history. And without what we have in the past, we would not be so well off today. All a fluid devellopment that have taken some 1000 years plus.
Its the truth i was there when it happened 😊👍
It's a classic propaganda myth that turned into folklore. Valdemar was a greedy ruler seeking land and loot, and being able to cloak these ambitions as honorable crusading was, as is well known, very popular at that time (just think of the contemporary crusades to the Holy Land, and esp. the marvelous shitshow of the 4th crusade a few years earlier). The myth turns to folklore, which then turns to useful nationalist history in early modern times - absolutely classic, every nation and culture knows these types of stories.
legend??!!??
Coca Cola in a talk about Dannebrog. Come on man
We had a Norse banner before but it didnt really represent Denmark as Danes or as a united Nation. Dannebrog does. Who would change a flag given to you by God himself, only in modern times have thoughts of change come but even now we are stubborn traditionalist I mean we even keep the royalty even though everyone is considered equals here
it is
Kalmar unionen Margrethe d 1. Thats why.
lol it's religious bs.
im danish, and we have a Cross in the flag, aka a torture tool. Not really proud of it.
The oldest known Danish flag was the Raven Flag.
Harald bluetooth, united the danes, danes invented bluetooth, named after harald bluetooth. The Bluetooth symbol is HB in rune letters
Bluetooth is a swedish thing invented by Ericsson. Ærgerligt nok 😉
@danillumjrgensen3865
🇩🇰 Yeah, I have also heard that Bluetooth was invented by Swedish Ericsson 🇸🇪
In law the swedish is oldiest
Hehe No, it's a copy of the Danish.
@-JustHuman- ja säkert sant, men enligt grundlag bestämt utseende så är den äldsta. Men det är saksamma egentligen, bara en flagga...
Just like every other countries taking inspiration of the danish flag.
It was probably white cloak soaked in blood picked up by strong wind from sea and when opened by wind showed something close to white cross on red what Danes took as sign from heaven of course later they stylised it into current form.