For those who are curious, Shulk forms his own Monado through his party's combined strength, yes, but it is ultimately Alvis who grants him the power. As providence incarnate, he was playing on both Zanza and Shulk's sides to determine who should become the ruler of the new world. As we see at the end of the game, he picks Shulk over Zanza. To quote the Monado Archive: "As the entity managing and granting the existence of gods such as Zanza and Meyneth, he uses the passage of fate to guide this doomed world towards a new existence. He is searching for a new god, one he can trust to liberate this stagnant world, and create a new world teeming with new forms of life." This also ties into the game's Gnostic themes, as seen in this well written excerpt I'm borrowing off of a forum post: The Monado is analogous to the idea of the Monad, a conduit to the divine with a variety of levels depending on closeness to god. These levels are represented in game by each successive Monado power and symbol you obtain. Ultimately Zanza represents the Gnostic demiurge, a physical false god who created a world of suffering who thinks himself to begod. Alvis represents the true god, who exists outside of the physical world who you can only discover within yourself. By the end of the game, Shulk has gone beyond needing to use Zanza as a conduit to be close to god and is able to draw on the power of god on his own. The true Monado. Shulk rejects the destructive impulses of the demiurge, embraces the compassionate god within, and is able to exist outside of the destructive cycle of samsara with his friends. Xenogears fans will also find him analogous to Wave Existence.
It actually goes even farther than parallels, Xenoblade 1 is pretty much an allegory of the Gnostic mythology. Alvis the Homs is an Aeon, Alvis proper is the Monad, Meyneth and Zanza are Demiurges (both the benevolent but unwittingly destructive and the ignorant and malignant varieties), the Monados are physical representations of attaining Gnosis and the divine power (pulling double duty), the returning of the Monado to Alvis is the returning of preeminence to the Monad, the limited, unreal world of Bionis and Mechonis is literally destroyed so that a version of the original, vast universe can be remade in the same way Gnosis allows man to escape the illusory world below to the true reality and so on.
Yeah that was more or less my understanding regarding Shulk's Monado. That it was Alvis who had granted him access to it. If I'm not mistaken that's why Zanza blames Alvis, and says "why do you betray me", and in response Alvis says "I am Monado". Says he was there since the beginning and that he will declare the end. In essence Alvis (Ontos) is more god than even Zanza was... which makes sense since it was apart of the computer program that triggered the creation of these alternate universes through the the Conduit.
@@Nuvendil Pneuma, Logos, and Ousia (which the english version of XC2 renamed to Ontos for some reason even though his name is right there in Greek letters) are the Gnostic trinity; major aeons that emanate from the Monad that correspond to the Christian Holy Spirit, Son, and Father respectively. It's unclear if we have met THE Monad yet. Technically aeons themselves can be considered lesser Monads, and Ontos and Pneuma both create 3 swords; effectively splitting themselves into their own lesser Trinity. However I believe that when Alvis refers to himself as The Monado at the end of 1 that is THE Monad speaking through him. We can assume The Monad exists since the implication at the end of XC2 is that The Monad heard Pyra and Mythra's prayers to continue to live for a little longer and reactivated their core crystal while splitting them into separate entities. When see a spark of Conduit energy float down from space and reactivate the core crystal.
@@Argorox Actually, Pyra and Mythra splitting was a logical outcome of resonating with Rex. They had never actually resonated with a new driver after Mythra and Pyra were created. Blades are merely beings created using data contained in their cores. In the case of Pneuma, there were technically 3: Pneuma, Mythra (created by Pneuma), and Pyra (created by Mythra). Pneuma is seperated from the core in the final act. We actually see how this works earlier with Akhos having his core ripped out. The blade dies but the core remains, presumably with it's other data and energy intact. In the case of Pneuma, thr Pneuma form data is lost and Pyra and Mythra remain. Upon resonance, two beings are created as a result. This would have happened before, but Pyra and Mythra had never actually returned to their cores.
@@Nuvendil Malos explains what Pneuma did at the end in Chapter 7. She transferred her whole core to Rex and used all that data within to create a new heart for Rex. Malos explains that Aegises specifically have the ability to survive for a short time without a core crystal. Pneuma's sacrifice would have been final; her core crystal was completely dead. Watch the ending of the game again. One Last You is Pneuma praying to God for more time on Earth. Watch closely in the scene before the core crystal reactivates. A golden ball of light floats down from Heaven and enters the core crystal and causes it to reactivate; it's easy to miss because of all the World Tree debris burning up in the atmosphere. Pyra and Mythra coming back has nothing to do with normal blade resonance; it was a divine miracle. It was the Monad answering their prayers.
One minor critique. you mention that they survive the fall from sword valley due to landing in water and they actually reveal (in like 2 seconds of the 12 hours of cutscenes, this particular one being on the beach after the fall) that it was mayneth that saved them from the fall. That is when Shulk changes his mind about hating mayneth (although he doesn’t actually know who she is at that time)
There's a lot of these "recap" videos being done right now, but as a Xenoblade fan this one is honestly one of the best. Got all of it's facts right, and didn't inject any questionable interpretations or debated points. Cut out some of the unnecessary fluff. Was disappointed by Gamexplains honestly, got a lot of stuff wrong. That would be the recap vid I advise people to avoid.
There were some inaccuracies, such as Shulk and Fiora surviving the fall because of water when it was actually due to Meyneth and Shulk's manifestation of the 3rd monado was granted by Alvis as the Monado, the true god of that universe and as an aegis who is able to form 3 blades, rather than solely "friendship is magic", but otherwise a very solid recap.
@@Leo1964 I am pretty sure the "survived because water" bit was just a joke on how little sense it makes in videogames that characters survive a fall from redicoules heights.
As a new comer this one is much easier to follow, the gamexplains one was all over the place and hard to follow for the uninitiated, but it helps to watch both, they fill in the gap of the other. But you’re right, this one is definitely better, would watch this one for clearer context than the gamexplain one
I find it interesting that the traits that both halves of klaus possess correspond to both halves of the human brain. The right side (emotional, artistic) stayed in the world of Alrest while the left (logical, spoken) went to become the Bionis. We hear the Architect speak many times about the guilt and emotional pain he felt as a result of his action, showing guilt and sadness of how the world had become. And his solution to restoring the world was that of an artistic nature, planting seeds and allowing the world to florish into a budding new civilization, simply watching over it and tweaking things here and there. Then there's Zanza who played in absolutes. "I created this world, therefore I am God" and squashed anyone who might oppose that view. He dealt directly with his ambitions and created calculated plans to bring about his objectives of being the almighty God of his world. His reasoning may have been flawed, but he dealt with words and reason and much less emotional or artistic means. I just thought this was super cool that the literal parts of Kalus's brain are represented in the personalities of both his halves. It may not be intentional in the first game, but it most certainly is by the second.
Given how vast the actual story of Xenogears was, it was likely planned out for Klaus to have two different sides before the first Xenoblade Chronicles was done.
Potentially Important fact about how Shulk got the true monado: When shulk is dead for a bit, alvis visits him in space memory and their conversation leads to shulk putting his hand over his chest and resonating with alvis in a way uncannily similar to how drivers resonate with blades in 2. Its after this moment that shulk comes back to life, and even without zanzas monado, only using a replica, can still have visions and do monado arts. This is because alvis has bestowed a monado upon him, which he awakens physically as Monado III, and it stays with him from that point until he gives it up to wish for his new world after killing Zanza. So yeah just wanted to point out that it did have a legitimate reason and wasnt random.
5:55 The High Entia must have already been aware of their alter forms when they captured Zanza, whether through pure knowledge or experience. This was why Melania was destined to be the Empress, being of mixed origins and descendent of multiple generations of mixing, her DNA was deemed worthy by her ancestors to enter the High Entia Tomb to be the next ruler. They have been aware of their destiny of transformation into Telethia, that was why they have been intermixing with Homs for generations to dilute their Telethia gene.
Thank you for this video, I've never played any of the xenoblade games so watching this video really help me to understand the stories of 1 and 2 and lore behind these games. These games were amazing, and I know 3 will be the best. I can't wait to play it!!
This isn’t bad but there are few minor errors than might be worth knowing about. I think a key one for understanding the first game and it’s connection to the others is that Alvis didn’t just appear in that XC1 world when all this adventure was happening. He arrived when the souls of the two scientists were just existing, with no bodies and no real life. Alvis created for them both a Monado, which is like a security key to access the power of the Conduit/Zohar. The conduit gets its power from another dimension. Alvis can tap into that power provided by the conduit. And in this new world, Alvis is allowing Zanza and Mayneth to access some of that power through him. This is why they appear as gods but Zanza is technically a demiurge type of character, commonly used in Xeno games (e.g. Deus in Gears). Alvis is connected to everything happening in the world of XC1 and responsible for the power the two scientists were given there as gods. He didn’t just vanish from our world (XC2 world) and find himself in a world with two big titans. He is the one that bestowed the Monados upon them, giving them the ability to have Titan bodies, create life etc.
yeah not many people realize this and that the monados are in fact aegis exclusive blade weapons. they try to use zanza and meyneth's monados to dismiss that fact not realizing if they played xenoblade 2, pyra/mythra/pneuma also has 3 aegis swords for each form, and the fact malos has his own monado. alvis is a aegis and the source of monados in xenoblade 1. he literally calls himself monado.
A lot went over my head when I played xenoblade 1. And I played the beginning of xenosaga so many times that opening is engraved into my brain but I never made the connection. Maybe because that lore about the conduit wasn’t in the game? If it was it went over my head.
5:06 I think Zanza wanted to kill the Machina because they were sharing their technological advancements with the people of Bionis. They were a big factor to why the species were worshipping him less and living longer lives (thus hindering the cycle of returning to the Bionis)
There is also the ultimate threat of them achieving travel that would let them leave the Bionis forever (space travel or otherwise), which is strongly alluded to in the Egil/Arglas flashback.
@@celestialspark5697 there is no space in the world of 1 it's literally just the Bionis and Mechonis. Hell the sun and the stars you see are actually just balls of ether
@@momentaryretrospect5967 I don't recall this ever being stated to be the case except by characters who would not be in a position to know whether this is accurate or not.
@@celestialspark5697 first off what gives you the impression the inhabitants of their world...wouldn't know how it works. Second why would monolith even include blatantly wrong optional information that isn't clear to the player it's misconception. Also the "Sun" in the game backs up what the guy says because we literally see it not move and change from a "day" color to a "night" color.
Much appreciated, for this breakdown. The vastness of the lore is what was stopping me from getting part 3, having no desire to play the earlier titles.
16:50 Shulk "creates" his monado thanks to Alvis, remember HE is the real monado and he is a core of the trinity processor wich in turn is an aegis blade in the original universe (Side note thats why Malos´ weapon is a monado too) So basicly Alvis and Shulk "resonates" as blade and driver to take control away from Zanza; thats why Alvis thech Shulk how to use some abilities of the monado and at the end he ask Shulk about the kind of world he whises to create.
This is a nice recap for me being a new Xenoblade player since i did't play XBC 1(it could't grab me.) and now being halfway into 3 this does help to fill in some gaps.
If anybody watching this video, having not played XC1 and XC2, and thinking ‘hot damn diddly these cutscenes are incredible.’ Trust me, the cutscenes are better in-game, after hours of gameplay and becoming intensely familiar with the world and the characters.
I will say that 3 also has great scenes and music as my first xenoblade game, i heard that the series can be hard for newcomers, but that 3 was better with that and at this point i was very curious
@@CatsLilaSalem it's not really hard for newcomers because all the stories are unrelated but I suppose the 2nd is the hardest to get into because the combat system is poorly told to the player
I noticed Gael'gar, the High Entia villain from Future Connected, was completely left out of this recap. I'm guessing that means he's not gonna be returning or even referenced in 3. Either that or the mere mention of him is preview NDA.
To be fair, he did die and his existence had little to no impact on... Anything, really. Only thing of note was the thing with Teelan's lab, and anything damaged could be recreated given time. If anything's coming back from Future Connected, other than Melia moments being important, it's the Fogbeasts.
@@ShurikanBlade Yes if you can throw out a portion of the plot and nothing changes then the plot point wasn't good. Idk what made him think that this makes him somehow a good villain.
Thank yo so much for making this. It's hard to rememebr so may detail having played these games over the span of a decade! Not that I could follow much of it in the first place 🤣🤣
27:39 I’m pretty sure Xenoblade 2 ends in the Xenoblade 1 universe with Pnuema transporting everyone to it. The Titans connect together with the remains of Bionis and Mechonis, pretty obvious by how areas from both games are fused together in Xenoblade 3. Also pyra and Mythra probably appear separate because of shulks wish for a world without gods, meaning that pyra and Mythra can still exist but not Pneuma
I’m fairly sure that the Architect did either that or he was the one who brought back Pyra and Mythra as separate forms as his “Last Gift.” Either way, the Architect most likely had that power to do such a thing before he died.
Xenoblade 3 looks more like the Xenoblade 2 Titans came violently crashing down into the endless ocean from Xenoblade 1, either that or they literally got into a fight with Mechonis and Bionis because the Mechonis sword is sticking out of the Urayan Titan's back.
In fairness, connection between XB 1 and two have already happen. Don’t need the 3rd game and yes you could say that the Xeno series has a common theme. The conduit is in every Xeno game
*Me: pre ordering Xenoblade 3 because the direct made me fall in love with the presumable good vibes the party will eventually have. As well as cool robots fusions and an overall beautiful looking world and intriguing story *Also me: checking online to see if the stories are connected from Xeno 1 and Xeno 2. Watching this entire video (twice) and still being confused lol I really hope Xeno 3 is gonna be ok for people who haven't played the other games
xenoblade games are all xenoblade games. the story and combat u will get from 3 are in 1 and 2. so why are u waiting for 3 when u can play 1 and 2. u will probs regret playing 3 first in the long run. everyone i know who played 2 before 1 ended up regretting it because they didnt pick up on certain things until they played it again and saw other peoples reactions compared to themselves.
What Jack said. Makes absolutely no sense to start with 3. Just take your time and play 1 and 2 they are phenomenal and you are missing out big time skippig them. On the other hand you already spoiled the plots for yourself by watching this video...
@@ariellen4995 I watch a let's play of XC1 and a video explanation on XC2 and playing through XC2 right now. I'm near the end of Chapter 3 I'm about 45 hours in. Enjoying it a lot. I suggest go my route and watch video explanation of the whole time line and play XC2 and then XC3. Dont worry about DLC cause you just watch the video explanation on time line. Why play XC2 when I just watch a video on it? To get a feel of the game plus XC2 is fun imo. I know XC1 game play is better and I played the first 4 hours of that game back on the Wii but trust me at this point its better to watch a video explanation of XC1 or a let's play video or both and play XC2 then XC3.
That cutscene where Rex loves all his friends,not just exclusively Nia will never not be funny. At the moment, sad. But after beating the game it is just the funniest friend zone I have ever seen
I love their surprised expressions and how their irises get smaller. Rex makes the surprised face when Nia says she loves him and Nia makes the same face when Rex says it back. I think that Nia laughing about it and saying that's all she could have asked for made the seen more heartwarming than sad.
It is NOT a friendzone. Stop being an idiot. ua-cam.com/video/CvbliEAMMMY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/_9LOFqt9tQI/v-deo.html Post-Battle Dialogue Rex :"Hey, Nia. About that thing you said that one time... I, uh, well..." Nia: "Huh? Oh, right! Hehe! You're asking now? Now's not the time, we can talk later." Nexus Force Nia: "This is where I belong." Rex: "All together now!" Pyra: "Our bonds are as one!" Union Sword Pyra: "We move forward together!" Rex: "We fight for our future!" Nia: "With these hands, we'll seize it!"
The most redeeming thing about that scene, is the after battle conversation between blade Nia and Rex that can happen after that point: Rex: "Hey, Nia... About that thing you said, you know, that one time... I uh... well..." Nia: "Eh? Oh right! Hehe... You're asking now? Now's not the time, we can talk later!" It makes it pretty clear that it was both entirely romantic on Nias side, and Rex, moronic as he is about those sorts of things (i mean, he's only 15), didn't get what she actually meant. But the fact that he brings it up at all in such a basful way, suggests that he somehow figured it out at some point, and he at least wanna talk to her about it, which sadly only happens off screen, if at all... So she was friendzoned, but i don't think it was entirely intended by Rex, at least not in as harshly a way as it came across... And i mean, the entire crew, Rex, Mythra, Pyra and Nia holding hands in the new world on the titlescreen after beating the game suggests that, whatever happened, they are all extremely happy where they ended up. But i guess we have to wait and see if XC3 brigs them up so we can see what happened to them after the merging of the two worlds, along with the XC1 crew...
@@skynet0912 nah Rex knew what he was doing go Nia, and is surprisingly smarter than he seems. He purposefully did that to her, and knew what it meant too
Never cared for 2 so Barley played it but loved the hell out of the first game so thank you for this. I just hope I can get into 3. I'm hearing great things about it so it's got me excited.
This was a superb recap. Hits on every major point a new player needs to know going in without muddling all the details (they are amazing details, go play the first two games).
I love how zanza set up this whole big infinite cycle of self sustainning genocide just for him to get his shit rocked by some goofballs the litteral first fucking time.
Malos wants to destroy the humans. because he is imprinted by Amalthus hate, and wants to talk and then destroy the architect because he wants to know if he has any degree of free will. Jin wants to destroy humans because he saw what they do, for instance people like Amalthus do, take blades as slaves, controls their destiny, their culture, hence it goes beyond what happened to Lora. He wants to kill the architect because he is the responsible for creating this system, which is oppressive for blades (Jin does not know the details of why the architect created all things the way they are, so that is the only conclusion he could get). Amalthus wants to use his power to create a world he seems fit, and he came to hate the current world because him himself came to see the worst in it froma very young age.
@@oneish7454 Its not mentioned but Alvis basically states he wanted to perpetuate a cycle of destruction and recreation which is what Ouroboros means, a cycle of death and rebirth.
Also to clarify, it is THEORISED that Pyra and Mythra live because a. Mythra and Malos are different from their original forms Logos and Pneuma. And at the end because their fears are abt overcoming their fear of dying but also overcoming their fear to live. So Logo's and Pneuma voluntarily give their cores to Mythra and Pyra for in the end they find a sense of resolve.
Maybe 3 will take concept similiar to Nier, with heavy emphasis on nihilism and stuff. When they exist in a world with no gods, some people will create fake purpose for it's inhabitants or something
"This planet. There is something about this planet" biggest cliffhanger I am still waiting tk be resolved. but if i can wait almost 20 years for a story after Metroid Fusion, I can wait for what happens after XBX....hopefully.
24:15 There is Post Battle Dialogue where Rex does follow up on that confession. If you want to hear it, I suggest checking out the XC2 Bonus Video from Chuggaaconroy
Hi so I've had XC1 and 2 on my backlog for YEARS. I've put a few hours in to both but nothing substantial enough to get more than a basis for their stories. However, Im SO hyped for 3 because I've always really wanted to love these games. I know that they're all connected, I just don't know how. Would I massively lose out on the experience of 3 if i started with it and then beat 1 and 2 later?
Honestly, even having played them you sometimes don't understand how they are connected. 1 and 2 play in two parallel universes that are connected by their creator? Or something like that. In 3 both of them come together as far as I understand. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if the the main factions in 3 are basically representing the worlds of 1 and 2 somehow. The strength of the games are more the characters anyways. You may get confused by the main plot when playing a xenoblade game, but the characters will grow to your heart and take you on an epic journey. That's kind of the core of the games, not so much the background lore. It's really not that important in order to enjoy them imo.
You'll probably appreciate 3 more if you have a full understanding of 1 and 2. I played 2 first and I recently replayed 1 and I'm not rewatching all the cutscenes of 2 because when they mentioned ontos it all went over my head. So I'm basically replaying it to full appreciate 2. Then I can fully appreciate 3. All the cutscenes are on yourube but 1 has 10 hours of cutscenese while 2 has 12 hours. I'd recommend holding off on 3 and play the others first but the director of Xenoblade said 3 can also be an entry point but you probably won't understand every little detail.
I made it to the last boss of XBC1, and I made it far in XBC2, but didnt get to the juicy last bits. Thanks for this recap of the thick essentials so I can play XBC3 with clear vision!
Well this explains some of the world and lore of XC3-like the great sword… *Nice job man!* I’ve played XC2 & 3. Eventually I’ll grab and go through 1. Here’s hoping for a X port-played that one too-and sequel one day…
Quick note, the Architect doesn't say that Shulk is killing him. he just knows that his other half is probably going to die soon, and when it does, the conduit will be gone.
The monado is a tool that brings it's user's will to reality, (I know Xenoblade has tons of gnostic themes, but it also reminds me of how the tetragrammaton can be understood as meaning, "Causes to become" which is very much what the Monado does) Shulk attaining his own could be easily handwaved as some mixture of Shulk's will being stronger than Zanza's(Shulk's will affecting reality can be seen when he manages to damage faced mechon before the monado II upgrade, he's overpowering the restriction Zanza placed on it even if just a little). Or him using the monado for so long it's powers rubbed off on him, any mixture of that and a few other things are all alluded to much more than just power of friendship asspull.
Since Alvis is essentially confirmed to be Ontos and thus an Aegis. He definitely resonated with Shulk to let him form his own Monado. Malos has a Monado too so it seems to be a thing all Aegis'/Trinity Core Processor's can do.
The fact that Melia and Nia were both friendzoned by their respective protag leads after confessing their love, and then becoming queens of warring factions in XC3 is.....cruel. LOL.
So I never played Xenoblade 1 or 2 and am now in chapter 6 of Xenoblade 3 And when this video ended it just clicked. A lot of questions I had concerning how things came to be were somewhat answered within the game itself, but thanks to this video the last remaining questions also stopped. Spoiler from here, but also not guaranteed to be correct. So Shulk is shown to be one of the City's founders in Xenoblade 3, this really confused me in the beginning of the video since 1 and 2 are two different universes so why shouldn't 3 be another one. And Nia and Melia are queens of the two nations but are from different worlds. This is answered in Xenoblade 3 when Nia explains that her world and that in which Melia resided where about to collide. This is also answers another question actually posed in X3 when someone states the queens have incredibly long lifespans. Nia is a blade eater and Melia will live very long thanks to her race. A lot of other things as well. The obvious Titan visible almost everywhere in X3, or you know the massive sword that's in the continent. All that gets explained if we consider the two worlds that collide to be the world of X1 and X2
My take is that Shulk got his own Monado because Zanza forgot to turn off admin privileges. His usage was what was informed by everyone else's usage. I'm pretty sure that if Fiora also had the potential to do that, since Meyneth probably intentionally didn't turn off her admin privileges.
Xbc one has its flaws, however it is a story that I love. A theory that I think most have thought about after playing xbc2, is that shulk is able to get that new sword due to Alvis, as he is an aegis, and using shulk as a driver he allows him to use his sword the monado. Also one thing that I do not like about the xbc3 story cast as far as I know is that, in xbc2 they give more attention to nopons, as tora is somewhat the comedy relief, he is an engineer, and quite big for a young nopon xD, anyway is that the nopons in xbc3 are not main cast but heroes, so they turned them into sidekicks, like punch in the guts, "you call others your sidekicks, now you are the sidekicks!" I'd like to have seen both nopon acting separately instead as a unit, but oh well...
Taking into account the heroes are implied to be powerful and special [to the point there's one the trailers keep censoring], it doesn't sound like they're sidekicks and more like powerful allies.
Riku kickstarted the plot by giving Noah the Lucky Seven. Yes, the group becoming Ouroboros is the REAL start of the story, but it seems unlikely that they would be able to liberate any colony without the lucky seven. Also considering it’s a Nopon that made the vehicle used to infiltrate Origin, Nopon are way too essential to the story to not be mentioned. (It’s also alleged that Tora helped create Origin). Trust me, they get proper representation.
Ok so, it is worth noting that Jin didn't literally eat Lora's heart, that's not how it works. He literally ripped out hid own heart and transferred hers to himself. It sounds insane, but Blades nearly instantly heal even the most severe injuries. Presumably this also ties into some technical ability Blades have as well, but the evidence of what I describe is actually visible when Jin assumes his flesheater form: he has a huge scar on his chest.
@@yourtrubers1728 Well from the game, for one. Flesh Eaters are defined, repeatedly, as blades with human and blade cells. Blades are life forms generated from data in their cores, yhey have digestive tracks and all that just like everyone else. So literally eating human flesh would result in...just eating human flesh. The rest is mostly implication, but the scar on his chest is the biggest visual cue. Especially given that when he explains what happened to Rex and the others when they meet in Morytha, he shows them the scar on his chest when explaing he "ate" her. Flesh Eater is a metaphorical term in other words. Just like Blade Eater.
@@Nuvendil that is a very interesting theory. I like it. But if you cannot reference anything published by monolithsoft that jin ripped out his own heart, it isn't lore. Can you site any reference to that effect?
@@yourtrubers1728 That's the part I'm not as certain on. He doesn't have his own though, he has Lora's. Mythra actually says so after healing him, that he has a human heart. So he either ripped out or destroyed his own.
@@Nuvendil i like everything you are saying! if we can push past the whole "this conversation is total fan speculation", i would LOVE to dive into this rabbit hole!
This is a really great concise recap, but I can't believe you forgot the ardanian soldier. DON'T FORGET HIM.
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I bet he thinks he can take them!
Captain Padraig deserves better. YOU'RE DONE!
Lol
THINK YOU CAN TAKE MEEEE?!?!
Rex wasn't lying, he really did love all of them
Hehe he he yeah boah
Fu Fu Fu.....True chad that one.
Babies
“Which eligible bachelorette did Rex end up with?”
*My brother in Christ he TOOK THEM ALL*
For those who are curious, Shulk forms his own Monado through his party's combined strength, yes, but it is ultimately Alvis who grants him the power. As providence incarnate, he was playing on both Zanza and Shulk's sides to determine who should become the ruler of the new world. As we see at the end of the game, he picks Shulk over Zanza.
To quote the Monado Archive:
"As the entity managing and granting the existence of gods such as Zanza and Meyneth, he uses the passage of fate to guide this doomed world towards a new existence. He is searching for a new god, one he can trust to liberate this stagnant world, and create a new world teeming with new forms of life."
This also ties into the game's Gnostic themes, as seen in this well written excerpt I'm borrowing off of a forum post:
The Monado is analogous to the idea of the Monad, a conduit to the divine with a variety of levels depending on closeness to god. These levels are represented in game by each successive Monado power and symbol you obtain.
Ultimately Zanza represents the Gnostic demiurge, a physical false god who created a world of suffering who thinks himself to begod. Alvis represents the true god, who exists outside of the physical world who you can only discover within yourself.
By the end of the game, Shulk has gone beyond needing to use Zanza as a conduit to be close to god and is able to draw on the power of god on his own. The true Monado. Shulk rejects the destructive impulses of the demiurge, embraces the compassionate god within, and is able to exist outside of the destructive cycle of samsara with his friends.
Xenogears fans will also find him analogous to Wave Existence.
It actually goes even farther than parallels, Xenoblade 1 is pretty much an allegory of the Gnostic mythology. Alvis the Homs is an Aeon, Alvis proper is the Monad, Meyneth and Zanza are Demiurges (both the benevolent but unwittingly destructive and the ignorant and malignant varieties), the Monados are physical representations of attaining Gnosis and the divine power (pulling double duty), the returning of the Monado to Alvis is the returning of preeminence to the Monad, the limited, unreal world of Bionis and Mechonis is literally destroyed so that a version of the original, vast universe can be remade in the same way Gnosis allows man to escape the illusory world below to the true reality and so on.
Yeah that was more or less my understanding regarding Shulk's Monado. That it was Alvis who had granted him access to it. If I'm not mistaken that's why Zanza blames Alvis, and says "why do you betray me", and in response Alvis says "I am Monado". Says he was there since the beginning and that he will declare the end.
In essence Alvis (Ontos) is more god than even Zanza was... which makes sense since it was apart of the computer program that triggered the creation of these alternate universes through the the Conduit.
@@Nuvendil Pneuma, Logos, and Ousia (which the english version of XC2 renamed to Ontos for some reason even though his name is right there in Greek letters) are the Gnostic trinity; major aeons that emanate from the Monad that correspond to the Christian Holy Spirit, Son, and Father respectively. It's unclear if we have met THE Monad yet. Technically aeons themselves can be considered lesser Monads, and Ontos and Pneuma both create 3 swords; effectively splitting themselves into their own lesser Trinity. However I believe that when Alvis refers to himself as The Monado at the end of 1 that is THE Monad speaking through him. We can assume The Monad exists since the implication at the end of XC2 is that The Monad heard Pyra and Mythra's prayers to continue to live for a little longer and reactivated their core crystal while splitting them into separate entities. When see a spark of Conduit energy float down from space and reactivate the core crystal.
@@Argorox Actually, Pyra and Mythra splitting was a logical outcome of resonating with Rex. They had never actually resonated with a new driver after Mythra and Pyra were created. Blades are merely beings created using data contained in their cores. In the case of Pneuma, there were technically 3: Pneuma, Mythra (created by Pneuma), and Pyra (created by Mythra). Pneuma is seperated from the core in the final act. We actually see how this works earlier with Akhos having his core ripped out. The blade dies but the core remains, presumably with it's other data and energy intact.
In the case of Pneuma, thr Pneuma form data is lost and Pyra and Mythra remain. Upon resonance, two beings are created as a result. This would have happened before, but Pyra and Mythra had never actually returned to their cores.
@@Nuvendil Malos explains what Pneuma did at the end in Chapter 7. She transferred her whole core to Rex and used all that data within to create a new heart for Rex. Malos explains that Aegises specifically have the ability to survive for a short time without a core crystal. Pneuma's sacrifice would have been final; her core crystal was completely dead. Watch the ending of the game again. One Last You is Pneuma praying to God for more time on Earth. Watch closely in the scene before the core crystal reactivates. A golden ball of light floats down from Heaven and enters the core crystal and causes it to reactivate; it's easy to miss because of all the World Tree debris burning up in the atmosphere. Pyra and Mythra coming back has nothing to do with normal blade resonance; it was a divine miracle. It was the Monad answering their prayers.
Turters alone got more mentions in this video than half of the party members in Xenoblade 1.
As he should
He deserves it
One minor critique. you mention that they survive the fall from sword valley due to landing in water and they actually reveal (in like 2 seconds of the 12 hours of cutscenes, this particular one being on the beach after the fall) that it was mayneth that saved them from the fall. That is when Shulk changes his mind about hating mayneth (although he doesn’t actually know who she is at that time)
There's a lot of these "recap" videos being done right now, but as a Xenoblade fan this one is honestly one of the best. Got all of it's facts right, and didn't inject any questionable interpretations or debated points. Cut out some of the unnecessary fluff.
Was disappointed by Gamexplains honestly, got a lot of stuff wrong. That would be the recap vid I advise people to avoid.
There were some inaccuracies, such as Shulk and Fiora surviving the fall because of water when it was actually due to Meyneth and Shulk's manifestation of the 3rd monado was granted by Alvis as the Monado, the true god of that universe and as an aegis who is able to form 3 blades, rather than solely "friendship is magic", but otherwise a very solid recap.
@@Leo1964 I am pretty sure the "survived because water" bit was just a joke on how little sense it makes in videogames that characters survive a fall from redicoules heights.
As a new comer this one is much easier to follow, the gamexplains one was all over the place and hard to follow for the uninitiated, but it helps to watch both, they fill in the gap of the other. But you’re right, this one is definitely better, would watch this one for clearer context than the gamexplain one
I find it interesting that the traits that both halves of klaus possess correspond to both halves of the human brain. The right side (emotional, artistic) stayed in the world of Alrest while the left (logical, spoken) went to become the Bionis.
We hear the Architect speak many times about the guilt and emotional pain he felt as a result of his action, showing guilt and sadness of how the world had become. And his solution to restoring the world was that of an artistic nature, planting seeds and allowing the world to florish into a budding new civilization, simply watching over it and tweaking things here and there.
Then there's Zanza who played in absolutes. "I created this world, therefore I am God" and squashed anyone who might oppose that view. He dealt directly with his ambitions and created calculated plans to bring about his objectives of being the almighty God of his world. His reasoning may have been flawed, but he dealt with words and reason and much less emotional or artistic means.
I just thought this was super cool that the literal parts of Kalus's brain are represented in the personalities of both his halves. It may not be intentional in the first game, but it most certainly is by the second.
Given how vast the actual story of Xenogears was, it was likely planned out for Klaus to have two different sides before the first Xenoblade Chronicles was done.
Potentially Important fact about how Shulk got the true monado:
When shulk is dead for a bit, alvis visits him in space memory and their conversation leads to shulk putting his hand over his chest and resonating with alvis in a way uncannily similar to how drivers resonate with blades in 2. Its after this moment that shulk comes back to life, and even without zanzas monado, only using a replica, can still have visions and do monado arts. This is because alvis has bestowed a monado upon him, which he awakens physically as Monado III, and it stays with him from that point until he gives it up to wish for his new world after killing Zanza. So yeah just wanted to point out that it did have a legitimate reason and wasnt random.
Friendzone? Buddy, he kept good on his word when he said he loved them "All"
Which eligible bachelorette did Rex wind up with?
Rex: yes.
The correct choice
Dude, I'm less than 5 minutes into this video and I can already tell this is by far the best recap I've seen. Awesome job on this!
5:55 The High Entia must have already been aware of their alter forms when they captured Zanza, whether through pure knowledge or experience. This was why Melania was destined to be the Empress, being of mixed origins and descendent of multiple generations of mixing, her DNA was deemed worthy by her ancestors to enter the High Entia Tomb to be the next ruler. They have been aware of their destiny of transformation into Telethia, that was why they have been intermixing with Homs for generations to dilute their Telethia gene.
Ah yes, Melina Blade of Miquoll(a)
Thank you for this video, I've never played any of the xenoblade games so watching this video really help me to understand the stories of 1 and 2 and lore behind these games. These games were amazing, and I know 3 will be the best. I can't wait to play it!!
This isn’t bad but there are few minor errors than might be worth knowing about. I think a key one for understanding the first game and it’s connection to the others is that Alvis didn’t just appear in that XC1 world when all this adventure was happening. He arrived when the souls of the two scientists were just existing, with no bodies and no real life. Alvis created for them both a Monado, which is like a security key to access the power of the Conduit/Zohar. The conduit gets its power from another dimension. Alvis can tap into that power provided by the conduit. And in this new world, Alvis is allowing Zanza and Mayneth to access some of that power through him. This is why they appear as gods but Zanza is technically a demiurge type of character, commonly used in Xeno games (e.g. Deus in Gears).
Alvis is connected to everything happening in the world of XC1 and responsible for the power the two scientists were given there as gods. He didn’t just vanish from our world (XC2 world) and find himself in a world with two big titans. He is the one that bestowed the Monados upon them, giving them the ability to have Titan bodies, create life etc.
yeah not many people realize this and that the monados are in fact aegis exclusive blade weapons. they try to use zanza and meyneth's monados to dismiss that fact not realizing if they played xenoblade 2, pyra/mythra/pneuma also has 3 aegis swords for each form, and the fact malos has his own monado. alvis is a aegis and the source of monados in xenoblade 1. he literally calls himself monado.
Which literally explains how Shulk was able to "create" another Monado, not through some random power of friendship lol
This was a good lore refresher. I think I actually might have understood some things for the first time.
Freelancer avatar, very nice.
@@Lesquille Yes, I'm old :( :D
A lot went over my head when I played xenoblade 1. And I played the beginning of xenosaga so many times that opening is engraved into my brain but I never made the connection. Maybe because that lore about the conduit wasn’t in the game? If it was it went over my head.
This is the best story recap ever tbh
It’s both easy to understand and well put together
Xenogears OG here, keep it coming with this great content! 😎🙏 🍄🌙🍩
5:06 I think Zanza wanted to kill the Machina because they were sharing their technological advancements with the people of Bionis. They were a big factor to why the species were worshipping him less and living longer lives (thus hindering the cycle of returning to the Bionis)
That actually makes a lot of sense.
There is also the ultimate threat of them achieving travel that would let them leave the Bionis forever (space travel or otherwise), which is strongly alluded to in the Egil/Arglas flashback.
@@celestialspark5697 there is no space in the world of 1 it's literally just the Bionis and Mechonis. Hell the sun and the stars you see are actually just balls of ether
@@momentaryretrospect5967 I don't recall this ever being stated to be the case except by characters who would not be in a position to know whether this is accurate or not.
@@celestialspark5697 first off what gives you the impression the inhabitants of their world...wouldn't know how it works. Second why would monolith even include blatantly wrong optional information that isn't clear to the player it's misconception. Also the "Sun" in the game backs up what the guy says because we literally see it not move and change from a "day" color to a "night" color.
Thanks! Waiting for my copy of 3 now in the post. So excited!!
23:52
Xenoblade 3 Ending: "Are you sure about that?"
This is a great recap! Thumbs up, this makes understanding the game that much easier.
I love the hell out of this franchise. Thanks for the refresher!
"Which girl did Rex end up with?" (When you learn the spoilers)
*Cuts to Yami Yugi screaming 'NO! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME! NOT HIM! IT'S NOT FAIRRRR!'*
Much appreciated, for this breakdown. The vastness of the lore is what was stopping me from getting part 3, having no desire to play the earlier titles.
Shulk got his Monado thanks to Alvis. Zanza is a mere demiurge, Alvis is the true god of that universe.
16:50 Shulk "creates" his monado thanks to Alvis, remember HE is the real monado and he is a core of the trinity processor wich in turn is an aegis blade in the original universe (Side note thats why Malos´ weapon is a monado too)
So basicly Alvis and Shulk "resonates" as blade and driver to take control away from Zanza; thats why Alvis thech Shulk how to use some abilities of the monado and at the end he ask Shulk about the kind of world he whises to create.
This is a nice recap for me being a new Xenoblade player since i did't play XBC 1(it could't grab me.) and now being halfway into 3 this does help to fill in some gaps.
"Which bachelorette did rex end up with?"
Haha. All of them.
If anybody watching this video, having not played XC1 and XC2, and thinking ‘hot damn diddly these cutscenes are incredible.’ Trust me, the cutscenes are better in-game, after hours of gameplay and becoming intensely familiar with the world and the characters.
Plus the music accompanying each scene 😫👌
The ending of Torna was one of the most hype things I've ever seen. Amazing work by Monolith Soft
Its satisfying making it to each cutscene in 1, feels accomplishing lol. each scene is awesome too
I will say that 3 also has great scenes and music as my first xenoblade game, i heard that the series can be hard for newcomers, but that 3 was better with that and at this point i was very curious
@@CatsLilaSalem it's not really hard for newcomers because all the stories are unrelated but I suppose the 2nd is the hardest to get into because the combat system is poorly told to the player
I noticed Gael'gar, the High Entia villain from Future Connected, was completely left out of this recap. I'm guessing that means he's not gonna be returning or even referenced in 3. Either that or the mere mention of him is preview NDA.
To be fair, he did die and his existence had little to no impact on... Anything, really. Only thing of note was the thing with Teelan's lab, and anything damaged could be recreated given time.
If anything's coming back from Future Connected, other than Melia moments being important, it's the Fogbeasts.
Or maybe that's just how good of a villain he is. Like, throw him out of Futures Connected story, and literally nothing changes.
@@lentinant doesn't that make him a terrible villain if he serves minimal to no purpose in the overall plot?
@@ShurikanBlade Yes if you can throw out a portion of the plot and nothing changes then the plot point wasn't good. Idk what made him think that this makes him somehow a good villain.
“Rex friendzones Nia hard.” About that… X-D
Thank yo so much for making this. It's hard to rememebr so may detail having played these games over the span of a decade! Not that I could follow much of it in the first place 🤣🤣
this video was very informative. I don't watch many recap videos, but I got a lot from this one
I can't believe this video doesn't have more views! Is fantastic! Thank you
27:39
I’m pretty sure Xenoblade 2 ends in the Xenoblade 1 universe with Pnuema transporting everyone to it. The Titans connect together with the remains of Bionis and Mechonis, pretty obvious by how areas from both games are fused together in Xenoblade 3. Also pyra and Mythra probably appear separate because of shulks wish for a world without gods, meaning that pyra and Mythra can still exist but not Pneuma
I’m fairly sure that the Architect did either that or he was the one who brought back Pyra and Mythra as separate forms as his “Last Gift.” Either way, the Architect most likely had that power to do such a thing before he died.
Xenoblade 3 looks more like the Xenoblade 2 Titans came violently crashing down into the endless ocean from Xenoblade 1, either that or they literally got into a fight with Mechonis and Bionis because the Mechonis sword is sticking out of the Urayan Titan's back.
Then how come we can visit morytha in xenoblade 3
@@marwane2850 is Morytha confirmed for Xenoblade 3
@@XenoDelta212 Yes, it combined with makna forest to make Maktha wildwood
Wait so we don't need a complete understanding of Xenogears lore, perfect works, gnosticism and psychoanalysis?
In fairness, connection between XB 1 and two have already happen. Don’t need the 3rd game and yes you could say that the Xeno series has a common theme. The conduit is in every Xeno game
Is the conduit in xbcx?
@@yourtrubers1728 We don't know yet. But but there are references to the Zohar in the game.
@@yourtrubers1728 yes
@@yourtrubers1728 It‘s shape is in the Game and used as parts of the Lifehold (basically a cloud that stores data of the Earth)
Was there a conduit in Xenogears? I can't remember
I'm so glad I watched this because I had forgotten EVERYTHING from the first 2 games somehow. Thanks for the recap
*Me: pre ordering Xenoblade 3 because the direct made me fall in love with the presumable good vibes the party will eventually have. As well as cool robots fusions and an overall beautiful looking world and intriguing story
*Also me: checking online to see if the stories are connected from Xeno 1 and Xeno 2. Watching this entire video (twice) and still being confused lol
I really hope Xeno 3 is gonna be ok for people who haven't played the other games
xenoblade games are all xenoblade games. the story and combat u will get from 3 are in 1 and 2. so why are u waiting for 3 when u can play 1 and 2. u will probs regret playing 3 first in the long run. everyone i know who played 2 before 1 ended up regretting it because they didnt pick up on certain things until they played it again and saw other peoples reactions compared to themselves.
What Jack said.
Makes absolutely no sense to start with 3. Just take your time and play 1 and 2 they are phenomenal and you are missing out big time skippig them. On the other hand you already spoiled the plots for yourself by watching this video...
@@FelixS. yeah I thought about watching gameplay....but I guess I'll just watch the video again and take notes this time lol. Still excited for Xeno 3
@@ariellen4995
I watch a let's play of XC1 and a video explanation on XC2 and playing through XC2 right now. I'm near the end of Chapter 3 I'm about 45 hours in. Enjoying it a lot.
I suggest go my route and watch video explanation of the whole time line and play XC2 and then XC3. Dont worry about DLC cause you just watch the video explanation on time line.
Why play XC2 when I just watch a video on it? To get a feel of the game plus XC2 is fun imo. I know XC1 game play is better and I played the first 4 hours of that game back on the Wii but trust me at this point its better to watch a video explanation of XC1 or a let's play video or both and play XC2 then XC3.
150 hours of lore arent easy to condense into under 30 minutes
That cutscene where Rex loves all his friends,not just exclusively Nia will never not be funny. At the moment, sad. But after beating the game it is just the funniest friend zone I have ever seen
I love their surprised expressions and how their irises get smaller. Rex makes the surprised face when Nia says she loves him and Nia makes the same face when Rex says it back. I think that Nia laughing about it and saying that's all she could have asked for made the seen more heartwarming than sad.
Nia can do so much better than Rex anyway. He isn't worth her trouble.
It is NOT a friendzone. Stop being an idiot. ua-cam.com/video/CvbliEAMMMY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/_9LOFqt9tQI/v-deo.html
Post-Battle Dialogue
Rex :"Hey, Nia. About that thing you said that one time... I, uh, well..."
Nia: "Huh? Oh, right! Hehe! You're asking now? Now's not the time, we can talk later."
Nexus Force
Nia: "This is where I belong."
Rex: "All together now!"
Pyra: "Our bonds are as one!"
Union Sword
Pyra: "We move forward together!"
Rex: "We fight for our future!"
Nia: "With these hands, we'll seize it!"
The most redeeming thing about that scene, is the after battle conversation between blade Nia and Rex that can happen after that point:
Rex: "Hey, Nia... About that thing you said, you know, that one time... I uh... well..."
Nia: "Eh? Oh right! Hehe... You're asking now? Now's not the time, we can talk later!"
It makes it pretty clear that it was both entirely romantic on Nias side, and Rex, moronic as he is about those sorts of things (i mean, he's only 15), didn't get what she actually meant. But the fact that he brings it up at all in such a basful way, suggests that he somehow figured it out at some point, and he at least wanna talk to her about it, which sadly only happens off screen, if at all...
So she was friendzoned, but i don't think it was entirely intended by Rex, at least not in as harshly a way as it came across...
And i mean, the entire crew, Rex, Mythra, Pyra and Nia holding hands in the new world on the titlescreen after beating the game suggests that, whatever happened, they are all extremely happy where they ended up. But i guess we have to wait and see if XC3 brigs them up so we can see what happened to them after the merging of the two worlds, along with the XC1 crew...
@@skynet0912 nah Rex knew what he was doing go Nia, and is surprisingly smarter than he seems. He purposefully did that to her, and knew what it meant too
9:06 / 9:12 the music you put here in the following scene is absolutely haunting. It's beautiful
I'm about 60% though, and jesus. All of the music is great!
Land of Morytha is the song
@@derpious267 Thank you!
Never cared for 2 so Barley played it but loved the hell out of the first game so thank you for this.
I just hope I can get into 3. I'm hearing great things about it so it's got me excited.
Aaaaaas we know now, nia might have also had some fun with rex.
(Ending of XB3) :D
Using the final cutscene song from xenoblade 2 for the ending of this video...
"That below belt" :_(
For those in the know, Rex definitely didn't friendzoned Nia.
27:53
Who did Rex end up with?
Spoiler:
Yes
This was amazing thank you!!!
23:50, 26:28, & 27:51I think we all underestimated how much of a CHAD Rex is...
Excellent refresher!!
I think this is the only RPG franchise i truly feel like i'm playing a shonen anime, with all the power scaling and shit
This is fantastic content. Thank you so much for this!
This was a superb recap. Hits on every major point a new player needs to know going in without muddling all the details (they are amazing details, go play the first two games).
Wait, Klaus/the architect designed the trinity processors? I thought the organization on earth (before Klaus activated the conduit) did that.
You're right Klaus just pushed some Buttons to activate the conduit/Zohar with it
thanks for putting out this video, very helpful
I love how zanza set up this whole big infinite cycle of self sustainning genocide just for him to get his shit rocked by some goofballs the litteral first fucking time.
Very well done and concise video, thanks for the summary and all your recent videos on XC3. cheers~
Malos wants to destroy the humans. because he is imprinted by Amalthus hate, and wants to talk and then destroy the architect because he wants to know if he has any degree of free will.
Jin wants to destroy humans because he saw what they do, for instance people like Amalthus do, take blades as slaves, controls their destiny, their culture, hence it goes beyond what happened to Lora. He wants to kill the architect because he is the responsible for creating this system, which is oppressive for blades (Jin does not know the details of why the architect created all things the way they are, so that is the only conclusion he could get).
Amalthus wants to use his power to create a world he seems fit, and he came to hate the current world because him himself came to see the worst in it froma very young age.
Thank you for all the work. Great stuff.
Great recap! 🔥
Excellent recap!
let's not forget that the cycle zanza wished to perpetuate is known as ouroboros
How do we know that?
@@monadoslash we don't, the game makes no mention of that. the Ouroboros concept is exclusive to Xenoblade 3
@@oneish7454 don't forget Xenogears
@@oneish7454 Its not mentioned but Alvis basically states he wanted to perpetuate a cycle of destruction and recreation which is what Ouroboros means, a cycle of death and rebirth.
Also to clarify, it is THEORISED that Pyra and Mythra live because a. Mythra and Malos are different from their original forms Logos and Pneuma. And at the end because their fears are abt overcoming their fear of dying but also overcoming their fear to live. So Logo's and Pneuma voluntarily give their cores to Mythra and Pyra for in the end they find a sense of resolve.
Amazing video!
Maybe 3 will take concept similiar to Nier, with heavy emphasis on nihilism and stuff. When they exist in a world with no gods, some people will create fake purpose for it's inhabitants or something
Amazing vid, ty.
"This planet. There is something about this planet"
biggest cliffhanger I am still waiting tk be resolved. but if i can wait almost 20 years for a story after Metroid Fusion, I can wait for what happens after XBX....hopefully.
To become a queen u need to be friend zoned
But at least Nia manage to nailed rex
"Everyone is happy except for Nia"
24:15 There is Post Battle Dialogue where Rex does follow up on that confession. If you want to hear it, I suggest checking out the XC2 Bonus Video from Chuggaaconroy
Just recently started Xenoblade 1 on switch, I'm worried it'll be years before I'm up to playing 3 😅
Hi so I've had XC1 and 2 on my backlog for YEARS. I've put a few hours in to both but nothing substantial enough to get more than a basis for their stories. However, Im SO hyped for 3 because I've always really wanted to love these games. I know that they're all connected, I just don't know how. Would I massively lose out on the experience of 3 if i started with it and then beat 1 and 2 later?
Honestly, even having played them you sometimes don't understand how they are connected. 1 and 2 play in two parallel universes that are connected by their creator? Or something like that. In 3 both of them come together as far as I understand. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if the the main factions in 3 are basically representing the worlds of 1 and 2 somehow. The strength of the games are more the characters anyways. You may get confused by the main plot when playing a xenoblade game, but the characters will grow to your heart and take you on an epic journey. That's kind of the core of the games, not so much the background lore. It's really not that important in order to enjoy them imo.
You'll probably appreciate 3 more if you have a full understanding of 1 and 2. I played 2 first and I recently replayed 1 and I'm not rewatching all the cutscenes of 2 because when they mentioned ontos it all went over my head. So I'm basically replaying it to full appreciate 2. Then I can fully appreciate 3. All the cutscenes are on yourube but 1 has 10 hours of cutscenese while 2 has 12 hours. I'd recommend holding off on 3 and play the others first but the director of Xenoblade said 3 can also be an entry point but you probably won't understand every little detail.
I made it to the last boss of XBC1, and I made it far in XBC2, but didnt get to the juicy last bits. Thanks for this recap of the thick essentials so I can play XBC3 with clear vision!
Well this explains some of the world and lore of XC3-like the great sword… *Nice job man!* I’ve played XC2 & 3. Eventually I’ll grab and go through 1.
Here’s hoping for a X port-played that one too-and sequel one day…
I find quite interesting why Dickson name wasn't changed at all.
Well done!
PEFECT VIDEO. Thank you so much!,
Thanks for the video!! it was amazing
Quick note, the Architect doesn't say that Shulk is killing him. he just knows that his other half is probably going to die soon, and when it does, the conduit will be gone.
The core of ontos left during the Experiment, and was never made an aegis
The monado is a tool that brings it's user's will to reality, (I know Xenoblade has tons of gnostic themes, but it also reminds me of how the tetragrammaton can be understood as meaning, "Causes to become" which is very much what the Monado does) Shulk attaining his own could be easily handwaved as some mixture of Shulk's will being stronger than Zanza's(Shulk's will affecting reality can be seen when he manages to damage faced mechon before the monado II upgrade, he's overpowering the restriction Zanza placed on it even if just a little). Or him using the monado for so long it's powers rubbed off on him, any mixture of that and a few other things are all alluded to much more than just power of friendship asspull.
Since Alvis is essentially confirmed to be Ontos and thus an Aegis. He definitely resonated with Shulk to let him form his own Monado. Malos has a Monado too so it seems to be a thing all Aegis'/Trinity Core Processor's can do.
The fact that Melia and Nia were both friendzoned by their respective protag leads after confessing their love, and then becoming queens of warring factions in XC3 is.....cruel. LOL.
Well about Nia...
So I never played Xenoblade 1 or 2 and am now in chapter 6 of Xenoblade 3
And when this video ended it just clicked.
A lot of questions I had concerning how things came to be were somewhat answered within the game itself, but thanks to this video the last remaining questions also stopped.
Spoiler from here, but also not guaranteed to be correct.
So Shulk is shown to be one of the City's founders in Xenoblade 3, this really confused me in the beginning of the video since 1 and 2 are two different universes so why shouldn't 3 be another one. And Nia and Melia are queens of the two nations but are from different worlds. This is answered in Xenoblade 3 when Nia explains that her world and that in which Melia resided where about to collide. This is also answers another question actually posed in X3 when someone states the queens have incredibly long lifespans. Nia is a blade eater and Melia will live very long thanks to her race.
A lot of other things as well. The obvious Titan visible almost everywhere in X3, or you know the massive sword that's in the continent. All that gets explained if we consider the two worlds that collide to be the world of X1 and X2
Correction. Addam was fourth in line to the Tornan throne
My take is that Shulk got his own Monado because Zanza forgot to turn off admin privileges. His usage was what was informed by everyone else's usage.
I'm pretty sure that if Fiora also had the potential to do that, since Meyneth probably intentionally didn't turn off her admin privileges.
Sao reference?
I love it
@@Leonsaree I haven't watched SAO. I am just comparing XBC1's lore to simulation hypothesis.
Incredible work, John.
Whoa! Nia becomes queen in xb3 😮😮
What if we have to kill her and Melia though? They seen to be against Oroboros.
Spoiler alert: Rex ended up with ALL THREE OF HIS WAIFUS!!!! That cheeky beast!
23:53 He didn't friend zone her, and he sure wasn't lying.
Great recap!
Which eligible bachelorette did Rex end up with?
Yes
Turns out we just didn't understand Rex's grindset.
Xbc one has its flaws, however it is a story that I love. A theory that I think most have thought about after playing xbc2, is that shulk is able to get that new sword due to Alvis, as he is an aegis, and using shulk as a driver he allows him to use his sword the monado.
Also one thing that I do not like about the xbc3 story cast as far as I know is that, in xbc2 they give more attention to nopons, as tora is somewhat the comedy relief, he is an engineer, and quite big for a young nopon xD, anyway is that the nopons in xbc3 are not main cast but heroes, so they turned them into sidekicks, like punch in the guts, "you call others your sidekicks, now you are the sidekicks!" I'd like to have seen both nopon acting separately instead as a unit, but oh well...
Taking into account the heroes are implied to be powerful and special [to the point there's one the trailers keep censoring], it doesn't sound like they're sidekicks and more like powerful allies.
Riku kickstarted the plot by giving Noah the Lucky Seven. Yes, the group becoming Ouroboros is the REAL start of the story, but it seems unlikely that they would be able to liberate any colony without the lucky seven.
Also considering it’s a Nopon that made the vehicle used to infiltrate Origin, Nopon are way too essential to the story to not be mentioned. (It’s also alleged that Tora helped create Origin). Trust me, they get proper representation.
People are gonna throw a fit about the Nia thumbnail! That was probably a bad call. I am not one of those people.
23:55 oh no he doesn't he makes her part of his harem
Ok so, it is worth noting that Jin didn't literally eat Lora's heart, that's not how it works. He literally ripped out hid own heart and transferred hers to himself. It sounds insane, but Blades nearly instantly heal even the most severe injuries. Presumably this also ties into some technical ability Blades have as well, but the evidence of what I describe is actually visible when Jin assumes his flesheater form: he has a huge scar on his chest.
Where did you get that information?
@@yourtrubers1728 Well from the game, for one. Flesh Eaters are defined, repeatedly, as blades with human and blade cells. Blades are life forms generated from data in their cores, yhey have digestive tracks and all that just like everyone else. So literally eating human flesh would result in...just eating human flesh. The rest is mostly implication, but the scar on his chest is the biggest visual cue. Especially given that when he explains what happened to Rex and the others when they meet in Morytha, he shows them the scar on his chest when explaing he "ate" her.
Flesh Eater is a metaphorical term in other words. Just like Blade Eater.
@@Nuvendil that is a very interesting theory. I like it. But if you cannot reference anything published by monolithsoft that jin ripped out his own heart, it isn't lore. Can you site any reference to that effect?
@@yourtrubers1728 That's the part I'm not as certain on. He doesn't have his own though, he has Lora's.
Mythra actually says so after healing him, that he has a human heart. So he either ripped out or destroyed his own.
@@Nuvendil i like everything you are saying! if we can push past the whole "this conversation is total fan speculation", i would LOVE to dive into this rabbit hole!
The Conduit/Zohar/Relics of Anima in a nutshell: God lost his keys.
Bravo, John
Spoilers for xenoblade 3 do not read
Polygamy is the true ending.
Great video, but for the love of god, don't put Nia's awakened form as the thumbnail, that's as bad as putting 7 in the thumbnail
or coffee with milk!