You can tell Ram dass is content with not knowing the right answers and letting go, being open to all possibilities , where as Terrence is quite intent on understanding the exact reason on why things are the way they are. Two brilliant minds with unique different mindsets
It's living in the soul in Ram Dass case. A peace in surrender. Terrence is an explorer always searching. Interesting seeing the different approach to the world. To know or to know you don't know.
Yes but even Terrence said that "we have no clue what's going on". Not everything is knowable, and knowledge is subjective. Sometimes knowledge becomes jail of the mind. The more you think you know, the harder it gets to open your mind to possibilities that contradict your knowledge.
The absolutely most amazing part of this clip is in the middle when the waiter shows up, and these two are locked in this esoteric conversation of consciousness and awareness, and it's a beautiful conversation but they're kind of lost in it and the waiter just brings them back to reality with humor and presentness, and it's so so beautiful, the dance of it all. So beautiful.
yeah it's great...I watched it years ago and find this again just now...another is sasha shulgin and mckenna talking in the graveyard and there's another where he's talking to some dude in a museum...all from this same trip...ram dass really opens up and let's go after at first being a little tentative...kind of like testing out the waters...obviously he was aware of McKenna's humongous intellect and I like how terrance gave him space and made him extra relaxed and open up and become verbose
another interview I remember was mckenna talking to another guy in a herb garden AND he talks to a lady in another interview from this trip...must have been about 5 people he chatted with
The author left a comment on another version of this video: "I made this film and it's great to see it proliferated on the web so widely. Something that many people are interested in knowing is that the waiter was not Czech, but rather a German character named Mickey Reman who was known for promoting things like underwater concerts. Terence knew him but it was a surprise to see Mickey show up as the waiter. Ram Dass had no idea who he was and that he was anything other than a Czech waiter. Steve Marshank"
Ram Dass and Alan Watts are "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
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I wholeheartedly believe that when mr. waiter said something along the lines of “the seas are getting dangerous, I’ll be right back”, he left to go take care of the seas himself. Absolute legend
I'm sitting in India and binging on Ram Dass videos, not realizing that Neem Karoli Baba, Ananadameyi Ma, and all the other wise ones mentioned gave us such priceless teachings, that we are completely unaware of. My childhood was spent going to the Ganges for a dip, but the significance was never explained. These recordings are such a revelation. Now I understand the feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever I had to leave India, I felt I was being wrenched from my mother. Thank you Ram Dass. Next time I visit Neem Karoli Baba's ashram in Vrindavan, I will be sure to take an apple and think of you.
By God’s Grace, this video was recommended to me on UA-cam 3 years ago, my first time hearing Ram Dass. Ram Dass changed my life and I was blessed to dig the hole where his ashes now lay at NKB ashram, Taos. Thank you Ram Dass. Thank you Maharajji.
wow small world. love from new mexico. cheers. found ram in my freshman dorm room shortly after finding Terrance. i would be NOWHERE if it wasnt for these men.
I'm a New Mexican too and think that's really crazy you got to dig that hole, don't know why. I grew up with Ram Dass books on my parents bookshelf and it still seems surreal that he's gone.
Ram Dass was "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. He "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Hey Jake, I just discovered Ram Dass recently and read Be Here Now and listened to a few of his lectures. What do you recommend I read of him or do to learn more?
“Out of emptiness arises compassion”, what a beautiful statement. The Tao Te Ching speaks, the value of the cup is its emptiness. The mushroom experience allows rise of self compassion from emptiness once the ego dissolves. Healing is the acknowledgement of observation with intention.
"Gentleman, everything is fine with the evolution of coffee and consciousness?" Mickey Reman instantly won my heart over and I want to know all I can about him.
The most interesting part of this is that these two are just so funny together. I've always thought the funniest people are the smartest - it takes connecting a lot of dots to make a really good joke, and some people can just do it on a dime. To be really truly funny, you've got to be really truly human, these two lovely men are both.
i remember seeing this video 16 years ago, back when i was a 16 year old boy brand new to the concepts of philosophy, spirituality, and psychedelics, but very curious. after that i was hooked on both mckenna and ram dass lectures. it's a trip hearing this again so many years later. i feel like i didn't understand much back then but that didn't stop be from listening to every lecture i could find of these guys. listening to this again now in a brand new light & perspective is really mind-boggling. i've really learned a lot over the years.
@@xxxxxxJSxxxxxx yes it was back when video sites like youtube and vimeo were brand new. online video just started becoming a thing and audio podcasts were more common back then, but i remember this being one of the first videos i saw online that wasn't flash animated.
Truth never gets old, and is a growing thing for our limited minds. Ram Dass was "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. He "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
@@omdeo4177 I'm the same age as OP, but waited to try psychedelics. Definitely wait. But you should look into meditation. Look up the book mastering the core teachings of the Buddha. It's based off of a Buddhist mediator
Terence: "I think you are a prophet to be, I think we all are. As Bilbo Baggins once said the 'the greatest adventure lies ahead'. I believe that. I will believe that when they lower my box". How true this became in Terence's case.
I love that in every one of these interviews in Prague for the Prague Gnosis series, Terence is constantly eating sweets and cakes or drinking tea or coffee every time he's not talking :) The man knew what he liked and sure enjoyed every moment he was here!
Ram Dass was "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. He "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Terrence probably would have chosen to go ‘on’ as opposed to the nutty world that is today. Especially here in the Divided States. I’m probably wrong, and it would be amazing to hear his take on how technology has taken off. He did catch the very beginnings of the internet; 95-2000 (I believe he died around then). But wasn’t here for the cell phone onslaught, rich guys launching themselves up in their own rockets 🚀, and so much more. It would be very interesting to hear his take on that, and everything from 911 to dare I say his name…#45 (I won’t say it).
@@absolutelypositively i'll say it, Donald Trump, one of the best presidents America has es ever had, who had his citizens living the most affordable lives they had in years, almost all of whom would take him back in a second over the undemocratically elected Biden.
I first woke up after a traumatic time back in the early 1980's. I discovered your book 'Remember Be Here Now' and ordered it from the USA, and 37 years later I still refer to the sparkling insights I found in it. This lovely, joyful video came across my path today, just a few days after my 65th birthday and oh, what joy to hear the same clarity and compassion in the conversation! I loved the dynamic interjection of the wonderful 'waiter' as well. Thank you all, from here in sunny Cornwall UK. While the cake is still cooking it's still rising. 🇬🇧 🌱✨️👏💝😊🙏
@@YimmyYames513 Thanks for asking. It was the shortened explanation, alluding to how I came out of a nightmare being shocked I was still alive. That early morning mist lifting with the sunrise, after another night of feeling terrified, was honestly like I was reborn. I'll never forget the beauty of it, and the overwhelming peace.
Oh my goodness that was delightful. I am sitting here smiling, feeling grateful to have been able to watch these two human beings speak to one another from the heart. Beautiful.
This conversation, at the beginning some kind of a battle checking up who is the wisest, Terrence turned it so beautifully and then it developed deeper and deeper into more and more honesty. Very inspiring.
I love how they interract with eachother, there is a warmth in co-discovery, a shared exploration and journeying, unlike a quality of discussion and argumenting.❤
When I watch this and really focus, it's almost like I actually have two friends that are interesting enough to chill and converse with for a period of time. Now a days, for most, this conversation would go the likes of "hey man, what do you think about ...?" "eh...idk..." "yeah, me neither." And then they'd look at their phones for forty minutes.
This was one of the most precious conversations had between people. I check in here every year or so. Be open to this mystery :)) and please leave with some peace
Thank you very much for uploading this. I've been beginning to explore McKenna's works over the past few months, having read "The Food of the Gods" and "The Archaic Revival" so far, and listening to his various recorded lectures online frequently. I recently obtained a copy of the Psilocybin book he wrote pseudonymously with his brother Dennis (beautifully illustrated by his partner Kat).
That's wonderful. I plan on getting into and reading much of Terence's works after being infatuated by his lectures. My question to you is, what do you make of those books of terence you mentioned such as Food of the Gods and The Archaic Revival, in other words, do you feel they truly deliver?
@@rickynoodles2816 Yes, they're both worth reading. If you enjoy listening to his lectures, I'm fairly sure you'd enjoy reading his books and essays, too. They, in turn, have led me to even further good books, like Riane Eisler's "The Chalice and the Blade" (which is a big influence on McKenna's concept of the Archaic Revival).
Psychedelics are an effective tool to see past the ego. But they are not a panacea. And as Alan Watts said, “If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen.” Ram Dass and Alan Watts are "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Listening to these two souls speak, is truly an amazing transaction between the creator and him/ it’s self. Like this is the moment, when two of the same dance harmonically around the firelight perfectly. It’s the core of what makes life so worth experiencing. And yet either of them have any clue that what they speak is exactly IT
Ram Dass makes an epic point on the counterrevolution topic. Where McKenna sees humanity has regressed from the psychedelic progress of the 60s, Ram Dass explains that on the whole people in the west are fed up with the countercultural materialism and idealism because of its continued prevalence. It’s almost like watching the same movie over and over. Sure the movie itself could be the best movie ever made, but eventually it gets old and one begins to hope that there’s got to be more to life than this. To me, the fact that the struggle of the western man causes a certain angst of existing while starving people in India are joyful further proves that the psychedelic explosion of the 60s was the way humanity should be going. And of course you will always have society stuck in its ways. The question becomes whether we can collectively get to a point where society and all the things that come with it are seen in the same light that something like slavery or racism is currently, as relics of the past that we all accept as part of our history but are no longer used.
Are you kidding? Marvel Hero film XXV is still to come and they are only getting better and better each time! The game of "getting mine" is deadly boring but fugging persistant.
Ram Dass (and Alan Watts) are "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
I love the waiter - like the court jester, ready to knock the stuffing out of any American, intellectual or spiritual egos, and they just roll with him. Beautiful.
Wow , thank you for uploading this ! one of the greatest conversations - it's literally like watching a podcast. Terrence is Jordan Peterson after a season in the amazon. Ram Dass is so good at finding a way to relate to everything , while still giving his particular point of view.
Well Doug McKenna did Mentor/observe As a spiritual aid For Juan Jordan Peterson and the Amazon Um. Juan??? Mistake. Didn't realize my voice text picked that up. Lol
Terrible comparison. Peterson is Nihilistic and although intellectual like both these two, extremely stuck in his box. He literally became a heroine addict after making millions. Just wrong
Very interesting question Terrence asked just before 14:00. That was a real pleasure to listen to two great like minded spiritual guru's shooting the breeze.
I started watching this on a much lower quality UA-cam video about a year ago, for whatever reason I never got past the first 10 minutes. Now I find a MUUCH higher quality version with the time to actually sit and watch this time. At times this interaction feels so unreal; in what seems like a very public "normal" place hosting these great minds. It's almost like an A.I. took each of their speeches and made this from scratch. Welcome to 2022 everyone! Lol Thanks for such a high quality upload!
This was a very engaging intersection of two amazing minds that I've looked up to for a long time, and is genuinely one of the most interesting pieces of content I've seen in a while. The contrast between the two of them as well as how well this has aged are just absolutely gorgeous to watch and listen to. Thank you for taking the time to upload this for free.
i’ve come to this video and commented so many times. it means so much to my soul for these two to meet on the same plane in the same heart. many blessings to us all. the way ram dass is genuinely just marveling at Terrence’s intelligence is beautiful
This is actually a real masterpiece and important meeting in 'spiritual' history.' I first viewed this years ago and found it to be full of gems from both individuals. I'm very happy that you have chosen to include it in your archive. Thank you!
Alan Watts + Manly P Hall, Carl Jung, Frederick Nietzsche, Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, Neville Goddard & Nikola Tesla. That would be the conversation of all conversations, ever. Have Art Bell be a mediator of sorts. I know Im probably asking for way too much but I’m going all out my dude. All we need is a time machine now. Grab William Blake while we’re at it too fuck it.
I can relate to Terrance saying I don't want my life to be my message because my life is muddled. I don't want people to know what path I attempt to follow because I don't want to give the path a bad reputation.
I keep these men in high regard! Terence remains such an inquisitive and explorative mind, which is so great to witness. What a great questions he asks as well!
This is the best find of today,really appreciate this post,never would've guessed i'd see these two great individuals having a conversation,but deep inside something lit up in myself when i saw the title.
I've come to this after listening to Terrance McKenna for the past three days, and my balance of who I thought is closer to "It, the Truth" has wobbled back and forth during this conversation. It's so extraordinary to see how their ideas weave around each other, sometimes divergent and other times flowing side by side, and everytime I think one of them has come to the conclusion of a particular thread of understanding they say more and I realize that it's really not that linear. Something I think that I find interesting is that McKenna doesn't seem to realize that he is not a passive observer of cultural evolution but has *created* the emergence of the sages that he is scanning the horizon for. And I'm tickled that Ram Das decided to stop at the heart reacts and say that is the goal of consciousness. How awesome it is to stand on the shore of being looking at these amazing bubbles.
* Ram Dass: "Return to Eden" .... * Terence: "Archaic Revival"..... they were basically talking about the same thing. The best of the past must be reclaimed if the present is to be saved.
These two men and others made an indelible impact on me during my formative years. Having had the door to my psyche opened by hallucinogens for it to be later kicked off it's hinges by the Shakti all adds to the enjoyment of their perspectives so many years later. The waiter was like icing on a cake. Just perfect thank you all.
Really grateful to the UA-cam algorithm right now for suggesting this video for me to watch. How timely and appropriate for me in my journey. Divine intervention is always available...
If only we could get a part 2 of this conversation, a 'where are they now' sort of thing, as their greatest adventures are still ahead 🙏💫🌟♾ *also, I'm strangely craving some half-baked waffles 🧇 😋
For "part 2" see Ram Dass and Alan Watts. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Profound. Layered. Masterful. It’s a gift that this has been recorded. The fact it is available at our fingertips is a miracle. Velvet Revolution Be the sign, don’t make the sign
You can tell Ram dass is content with not knowing the right answers and letting go, being open to all possibilities , where as Terrence is quite intent on understanding the exact reason on why things are the way they are. Two brilliant minds with unique different mindsets
Such an insightful comment
It's living in the soul in Ram Dass case. A peace in surrender. Terrence is an explorer always searching. Interesting seeing the different approach to the world. To know or to know you don't know.
One hellvua a dialectic this conversation was!
yes I see that too
Yes but even Terrence said that "we have no clue what's going on". Not everything is knowable, and knowledge is subjective. Sometimes knowledge becomes jail of the mind. The more you think you know, the harder it gets to open your mind to possibilities that contradict your knowledge.
The absolutely most amazing part of this clip is in the middle when the waiter shows up, and these two are locked in this esoteric conversation of consciousness and awareness, and it's a beautiful conversation but they're kind of lost in it and the waiter just brings them back to reality with humor and presentness, and it's so so beautiful, the dance of it all. So beautiful.
Well i'm pretty sure the waiter was staged
@@Stunk4 you meen stoned?
i mean lol, how was the waiter staged? is the whole conversation also scripted?
Waiter was Mahari-ji screwing with RD
You seeing that beauty and sharing it makes you one with it.
The waiter was fantastic, perfectly playing the part of a joker.
I had no idea these two met, let alone had an entire conversation that was recorded! How amazing! Thank you for sharing this!!! 😁
Same!!!
McKenna is the philosopher, Dass the salesman
yeah it's great...I watched it years ago and find this again just now...another is sasha shulgin and mckenna talking in the graveyard and there's another where he's talking to some dude in a museum...all from this same trip...ram dass really opens up and let's go after at first being a little tentative...kind of like testing out the waters...obviously he was aware of McKenna's humongous intellect and I like how terrance gave him space and made him extra relaxed and open up and become verbose
another interview I remember was mckenna talking to another guy in a herb garden AND he talks to a lady in another interview from this trip...must have been about 5 people he chatted with
@@Zekearus53 No, that was Timothy Leary. McKenna never taught at Harvard, and this interview was the first time they ever met.
The author left a comment on another version of this video:
"I made this film and it's great to see it proliferated on the web so widely. Something that many people are interested in knowing is that the waiter was not Czech, but rather a German character named Mickey Reman who was known for promoting things like underwater concerts. Terence knew him but it was a surprise to see Mickey show up as the waiter. Ram Dass had no idea who he was and that he was anything other than a Czech waiter.
Steve Marshank"
Thank you for sharing that.
perfect zen prank
Man was the star of the show, Love his friendly and clever banter with the two.
Right before he says, the mushroom can touch you anywhere
Mickey Remann the waiter is a surprising facet of this gem of a conversation. Look him up, his work is a wild rabbit hole to go down
This is crazy for me. I just started listening to watts this year. Led me to ram, then Terrance And now I see they met. I feel like a time traveler
I also started with Alan Watts but I only felt that "Iam the Universe" through Ram Das' Imagine
Here are a few more for you to check out if you wish. David R. Hawkins, Sadhguru, Mooji
You are on the greatest journey my friend - enjoy it ☺️
See Jack Kornfield ! Ram dass buddy :) brilliant & funny guy :)
@@13hillsLove David R Hawkins. His Book Letting go The Power Of Surrender has helped me
These men were instrumental in my awakening along with Alan Watts. Beautiful discussion these two men had. 🙏 ❤
Same
I used to love Alan Watts until his CIA ties were discovered recently : (
Now I question his motives.
Ram Dass and Alan Watts are "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
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I wholeheartedly believe that when mr. waiter said something along the lines of “the seas are getting dangerous, I’ll be right back”, he left to go take care of the seas himself. Absolute legend
No lie
To be able to listen to this on my phone at this day is such a blessing
The meetIng of two wise American elders who are no longer physically with us but their legacy lives on, Namaste.
I'm sitting in India and binging on Ram Dass videos, not realizing that Neem Karoli Baba, Ananadameyi Ma, and all the other wise ones mentioned gave us such priceless teachings, that we are completely unaware of. My childhood was spent going to the Ganges for a dip, but the significance was never explained. These recordings are such a revelation. Now I understand the feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever I had to leave India, I felt I was being wrenched from my mother. Thank you Ram Dass. Next time I visit Neem Karoli Baba's ashram in Vrindavan, I will be sure to take an apple and think of you.
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I love how Ram Dass pauses and meditates before answering on questions he doesn't want to answer too quickly
By God’s Grace, this video was recommended to me on UA-cam 3 years ago, my first time hearing Ram Dass. Ram Dass changed my life and I was blessed to dig the hole where his ashes now lay at NKB ashram, Taos. Thank you Ram Dass. Thank you Maharajji.
wow small world. love from new mexico. cheers. found ram in my freshman dorm room shortly after finding Terrance. i would be NOWHERE if it wasnt for these men.
I'm a New Mexican too and think that's really crazy you got to dig that hole, don't know why. I grew up with Ram Dass books on my parents bookshelf and it still seems surreal that he's gone.
Ram Dass was "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. He "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Hey Jake, I just discovered Ram Dass recently and read Be Here Now and listened to a few of his lectures. What do you recommend I read of him or do to learn more?
“Out of emptiness arises compassion”, what a beautiful statement. The Tao Te Ching speaks, the value of the cup is its emptiness. The mushroom experience allows rise of self compassion from emptiness once the ego dissolves. Healing is the acknowledgement of observation with intention.
Far out man.. hopefully one day I'll be able to understand what that means 😄
A delightful conversation and the waiter comes in like some wise Monty Python character, to perfect it.
Was he a written character?
@@bennozoid1 yes according to the film producer, Terrance knew him but not Ram Das, hence why Terrance wasn't as confused by the interaction.
"Gentleman, everything is fine with the evolution of coffee and consciousness?" Mickey Reman instantly won my heart over and I want to know all I can about him.
Witnessing this conversation is warm tea for the soul. Such beautiful teachers 🌟
The most interesting part of this is that these two are just so funny together. I've always thought the funniest people are the smartest - it takes connecting a lot of dots to make a really good joke, and some people can just do it on a dime. To be really truly funny, you've got to be really truly human, these two lovely men are both.
Love observing Ram Dass close his eyes, breathe, and really take his time to answer difficult questions. Gem of a conversation
That's what we all need to do. Too many words without thought these days.
i remember seeing this video 16 years ago, back when i was a 16 year old boy brand new to the concepts of philosophy, spirituality, and psychedelics, but very curious. after that i was hooked on both mckenna and ram dass lectures. it's a trip hearing this again so many years later. i feel like i didn't understand much back then but that didn't stop be from listening to every lecture i could find of these guys. listening to this again now in a brand new light & perspective is really mind-boggling. i've really learned a lot over the years.
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Can I ask how you originally watched it? Was it over the internet?
@@xxxxxxJSxxxxxx yes it was back when video sites like youtube and vimeo were brand new. online video just started becoming a thing and audio podcasts were more common back then, but i remember this being one of the first videos i saw online that wasn't flash animated.
it's fun listening you you guys - i m 17 and and more than just curious.
Truth never gets old, and is a growing thing for our limited minds. Ram Dass was "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. He "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
@@omdeo4177 I'm the same age as OP, but waited to try psychedelics. Definitely wait. But you should look into meditation. Look up the book mastering the core teachings of the Buddha. It's based off of a Buddhist mediator
This is one of the greatest convo ever
The waiter made it incredibly wholesome
Terence: "I think you are a prophet to be, I think we all are. As Bilbo Baggins once said the 'the greatest adventure lies ahead'. I believe that. I will believe that when they lower my box".
How true this became in Terence's case.
watch this so many times over the years these two are a real treasure
We at the channel couldn't agree more!
Yes. Yes this is a convo I’d like to be notified about. Finally, youtube algorithm! You did it!
Just a few months ago I tried watching this but it meant nothing to me. Today it's blowing my mind. Such grace.
Same. I didn’t even understand 1%. Now it’s 15% ha
I love that in every one of these interviews in Prague for the Prague Gnosis series, Terence is constantly eating sweets and cakes or drinking tea or coffee every time he's not talking :) The man knew what he liked and sure enjoyed every moment he was here!
Two of my favourite teachers 🙏
mine to!
❤️
Same 💗
Ram Dass was "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. He "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Omg I didn't know these two had an entire conversation together. This is amazing.
Hurts me to this day that Terrence left us too soon.
And Baba Ram Dass. Two beautiful teachers and luminaries.
Hi, I was thinking, if only our governments could talk like this !!🙏🌎🙏
Terrence probably would have chosen to go ‘on’ as opposed to the nutty world that is today. Especially here in the Divided States.
I’m probably wrong, and it would be amazing to hear his take on how technology has taken off. He did catch the very beginnings of the internet; 95-2000 (I believe he died around then). But wasn’t here for the cell phone onslaught, rich guys launching themselves up in their own rockets 🚀, and so much more. It would be very interesting to hear his take on that, and everything from 911 to dare I say his name…#45 (I won’t say it).
@@absolutelypositively i'll say it, Donald Trump, one of the best presidents America has es ever had, who had his citizens living the most affordable lives they had in years, almost all of whom would take him back in a second over the undemocratically elected Biden.
@@VestaJ17 it seems like an oxymoron that an ego like that would be found here
Amazing. The world needs more conversations like this now.
“If for a single moment we could feel what we’re doing. We could stop” - So true. So true,
I first woke up after a traumatic time back in the early 1980's. I discovered your book 'Remember Be Here Now' and ordered it from the USA, and 37 years later I still refer to the sparkling insights I found in it.
This lovely, joyful video came across my path today, just a few days after my 65th birthday and oh, what joy to hear the same clarity and compassion in the conversation! I loved the dynamic interjection of the wonderful 'waiter' as well. Thank you all, from here in sunny Cornwall UK. While the cake is still cooking it's still rising. 🇬🇧 🌱✨️👏💝😊🙏
When you say woke up do you mean something like enlighten or more aware of something.
@@YimmyYames513 Thanks for asking. It was the shortened explanation, alluding to how I came out of a nightmare being shocked I was still alive. That early morning mist lifting with the sunrise, after another night of feeling terrified, was honestly like I was reborn. I'll never forget the beauty of it, and the overwhelming peace.
These conversations are so important for humanity and we don't even realise it. We need to transform from our own reality and join back to humanity.
I comitt to building my relationship with my brother so that we can sit down and talk like this during this lifetime at least once 🥰🥰Ram Ram Ram
Same for me and my sis!!
Beautiful! My blessings go with you. Having had hard conversations with siblings i know how incredibly healing they are!
Oh my goodness that was delightful. I am sitting here smiling, feeling grateful to have been able to watch these two human beings speak to one another from the heart. Beautiful.
This conversation, at the beginning some kind of a battle checking up who is the wisest, Terrence turned it so beautifully and then it developed deeper and deeper into more and more honesty. Very inspiring.
Funny how I didn’t see it like that at all. Maybe we’re projecting on to them
@@heroisdomar4248
Only my perception.
Check it out for yourself.
I love how they interract with eachother, there is a warmth in co-discovery, a shared exploration and journeying, unlike a quality of discussion and argumenting.❤
When I watch this and really focus, it's almost like I actually have two friends that are interesting enough to chill and converse with for a period of time. Now a days, for most, this conversation would go the likes of "hey man, what do you think about ...?" "eh...idk..." "yeah, me neither." And then they'd look at their phones for forty minutes.
I'm micro Dosed On🍄 As I'm Listening Too This!! 🤩 Amazing Talk 🦜😎🙏🛸👽
2 beautiful souls, the wave they created is still going strong in these difficult times . Thankfull we still can enjoy this wisdom❤️🙏
This is like when Lebron met Jordan
Imagine if we had a transcription of his early conversation with Alan Watts ... 😀
Or not lol terrible comparison
Except intellectuals
Not comparable, but I see what you are saying!
Gods dancing on the head of a pin!
That waiter was sublime!!
I would like to see this same conversation taking place today, given the precarious state of truth and humanity.
This was one of the most precious conversations had between people. I check in here every year or so. Be open to this mystery :)) and please leave with some peace
Yeah this conversation is amazing. Something you don’t always see. Two giants coming together
Thank you very much for uploading this. I've been beginning to explore McKenna's works over the past few months, having read "The Food of the Gods" and "The Archaic Revival" so far, and listening to his various recorded lectures online frequently. I recently obtained a copy of the Psilocybin book he wrote pseudonymously with his brother Dennis (beautifully illustrated by his partner Kat).
That's wonderful. I plan on getting into and reading much of Terence's works after being infatuated by his lectures. My question to you is, what do you make of those books of terence you mentioned such as Food of the Gods and The Archaic Revival, in other words, do you feel they truly deliver?
@@rickynoodles2816 Yes, they're both worth reading. If you enjoy listening to his lectures, I'm fairly sure you'd enjoy reading his books and essays, too. They, in turn, have led me to even further good books, like Riane Eisler's "The Chalice and the Blade" (which is a big influence on McKenna's concept of the Archaic Revival).
@@johnholton8157 ahh i see. That's good to hear thanks man
Psychedelics are an effective tool to see past the ego. But they are not a panacea. And as Alan Watts said, “If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen.”
Ram Dass and Alan Watts are "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did.
Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
The crossover I didn't know I needed
Listening to these two souls speak, is truly an amazing transaction between the creator and him/ it’s self. Like this is the moment, when two of the same dance harmonically around the firelight perfectly. It’s the core of what makes life so worth experiencing. And yet either of them have any clue that what they speak is exactly IT
Is the last word an abbreviation or just "it"
Is the last word an abbreviation or just "it"
FAR OUT!
This is the best conversation I’ve ever heard.
Ram Dass makes an epic point on the counterrevolution topic. Where McKenna sees humanity has regressed from the psychedelic progress of the 60s, Ram Dass explains that on the whole people in the west are fed up with the countercultural materialism and idealism because of its continued prevalence. It’s almost like watching the same movie over and over. Sure the movie itself could be the best movie ever made, but eventually it gets old and one begins to hope that there’s got to be more to life than this. To me, the fact that the struggle of the western man causes a certain angst of existing while starving people in India are joyful further proves that the psychedelic explosion of the 60s was the way humanity should be going. And of course you will always have society stuck in its ways. The question becomes whether we can collectively get to a point where society and all the things that come with it are seen in the same light that something like slavery or racism is currently, as relics of the past that we all accept as part of our history but are no longer used.
Are you kidding? Marvel Hero film XXV is still to come and they are only getting better and better each time! The game of "getting mine" is deadly boring but fugging persistant.
A beautiful video, thank you for sharing. I resonate with both. It was nice to sit at a table and listen in on a conversation ☺️
Admin here - You bet! This is one of my personal faves. So rich between these two amazing humans.
Ram Dass timeless wisdom embodied 😍
Ram Dass (and Alan Watts) are "right on." And this I know due to the complete education given to a true prophet of GOD. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Unbelievable, how perfect the 'Waiter' interludes were. So entertaining and yet philosophically pertinent 😃
this is so beautiful on so many levels. where is part 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6? i could listen to these guys for days!!
I cry thinking there might not be more of this and ever will
Many thanks to whoever had the presence of mind to film this conversation. I savored every word. Fascinating intersection of two extraordinary people.
I'm so glad I got to see this. WOW. I'm forever team ram dass but I've learned something new today from Mr McKenna. Thank you for sharing this
What a blessing we had those wise men Walk the earth and we have video and audio materials of this ❤️
I love that a conversation between them happened and we all get to enjoy it now many years later
Emotionally connect with what we are doing!!!! 😮
This is a gem. What an incredible meeting of two absolute legends. Also, Terence is freaking hilarious 😂
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
[_James_tray]
Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?
@@Jerryberger9235 Yes
just a sea of consciousness dancing for itself 😍🌊🙏🏼
Cool pfp!
Mind telling me the meaning?
@@ethanjohnson3642 my guess is the “one is all” thing on top of he looks a lot like Terrence McKenna lmao
@@finessedog8455 😂Stellar interpretation. Peace.
The sharpness of their minds is a delight - ‘That’s a good answer, although you didn’t say how you like it’.
Yeah I loved how Terrance checked him on that one.
Love Ram Dass and Terence! I was lucky enough to hear three of Terence's lectures. Wonderful video of two amazing teachers. Thank you
omg i forgot about this! for the past 15 years, i always say these are my two favorite humans, dead or alive
14:00 my goodness that pause. I love these guys.
I love the waiter - like the court jester, ready to knock the stuffing out of any American, intellectual or spiritual egos, and they just roll with him. Beautiful.
These two men have changed my life more than any others. Thanks fellas
Wow , thank you for uploading this ! one of the greatest conversations - it's literally like watching a podcast. Terrence is Jordan Peterson after a season in the amazon. Ram Dass is so good at finding a way to relate to everything , while still giving his particular point of view.
Well Doug McKenna did Mentor/observe As a spiritual aid For Juan Jordan Peterson and the Amazon
Um. Juan??? Mistake. Didn't realize my voice text picked that up. Lol
'Jordan Peterson after a season in the amazon' LOL!
Peterson needs that season in the Amazon.
Jordan Peterson and McKenna could not be more different. Dumb comparison.
Terrible comparison. Peterson is Nihilistic and although intellectual like both these two, extremely stuck in his box. He literally became a heroine addict after making millions. Just wrong
I love how naturalness of their conversation❤️
Thank you for posting 🙏 - What an amazing video. Absolutely LOVE the comedy waiter popping in just as we all started to take it very seriously 😂
This is so beautiful I needed this right now recovering in the hospital here in the conversation between two of the greats.
rest in peace
Sending you strength and comfort in your recovery!
Hoping you are healing.
Very interesting question Terrence asked just before 14:00. That was a real pleasure to listen to two great like minded spiritual guru's shooting the breeze.
Ended far better than it started. Glad these two legends found their rhythm. Two legendary titans ❤️
Thank you to both these souls for being so connected to their higher selves and living from a place of passion.
Oh my heart! 💚
I started watching this on a much lower quality UA-cam video about a year ago, for whatever reason I never got past the first 10 minutes. Now I find a MUUCH higher quality version with the time to actually sit and watch this time. At times this interaction feels so unreal; in what seems like a very public "normal" place hosting these great minds. It's almost like an A.I. took each of their speeches and made this from scratch. Welcome to 2022 everyone! Lol
Thanks for such a high quality upload!
This was a very engaging intersection of two amazing minds that I've looked up to for a long time, and is genuinely one of the most interesting pieces of content I've seen in a while. The contrast between the two of them as well as how well this has aged are just absolutely gorgeous to watch and listen to. Thank you for taking the time to upload this for free.
i’ve come to this video and commented so many times. it means so much to my soul for these two to meet on the same plane in the same heart. many blessings to us all. the way ram dass is genuinely just marveling at Terrence’s intelligence is beautiful
Life was meant to be just a conversation.
The first podcast, I wonder if they knew how many people would be listening to this, so many years later.
Based on this interview it really seems like Terence McKenna is lightyears ahead of Ram Dass
To me More like the exact opposite
It all dovetales.
Yes it might be Ram Dass that's broken Thru I've followed both. What a treasure!! in truth no Ram Dass no Terence McKenna ❤
Stand halfway between hope and hopelessness. - Ram Dass
This is actually a real masterpiece and important meeting in 'spiritual' history.' I first viewed this years ago and found it to be full of gems from both individuals. I'm very happy that you have chosen to include it in your archive. Thank you!
Imagine if Alan Watts was in this too...
Yesss
Alan Watts + Manly P Hall, Carl Jung, Frederick Nietzsche, Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, Neville Goddard & Nikola Tesla. That would be the conversation of all conversations, ever. Have Art Bell be a mediator of sorts. I know Im probably asking for way too much but I’m going all out my dude. All we need is a time machine now. Grab William Blake while we’re at it too fuck it.
cm Neville Goddard was a bullshit artist
@sang ooooh William Blake is the main diamond of that band for me. though one is not less than the other. that's a buffet
That would be the trifecta
I can relate to Terrance saying I don't want my life to be my message because my life is muddled. I don't want people to know what path I attempt to follow because I don't want to give the path a bad reputation.
Ram ram 🙏🌹🙏🌹
I keep these men in high regard! Terence remains such an inquisitive and explorative mind, which is so great to witness. What a great questions he asks as well!
😂😂 40 minutes into DEEP philosophical waters and Terrence says, "Not to be an egghead here..."
This is the best find of today,really appreciate this post,never would've guessed i'd see these two great individuals having a conversation,but deep inside something lit up in myself when i saw the title.
The waiter is buddha
I've come to this after listening to Terrance McKenna for the past three days, and my balance of who I thought is closer to "It, the Truth" has wobbled back and forth during this conversation. It's so extraordinary to see how their ideas weave around each other, sometimes divergent and other times flowing side by side, and everytime I think one of them has come to the conclusion of a particular thread of understanding they say more and I realize that it's really not that linear.
Something I think that I find interesting is that McKenna doesn't seem to realize that he is not a passive observer of cultural evolution but has *created* the emergence of the sages that he is scanning the horizon for. And I'm tickled that Ram Das decided to stop at the heart reacts and say that is the goal of consciousness.
How awesome it is to stand on the shore of being looking at these amazing bubbles.
* Ram Dass: "Return to Eden" .... * Terence: "Archaic Revival"..... they were basically talking about the same thing. The best of the past must be reclaimed if the present is to be saved.
These two men and others made an indelible impact on me during my formative years. Having had the door to my psyche opened by hallucinogens for it to be later kicked off it's hinges by the Shakti all adds to the enjoyment of their perspectives so many years later. The waiter was like icing on a cake. Just perfect thank you all.
the most enlightened of the two is the waiter
Really grateful to the UA-cam algorithm right now for suggesting this video for me to watch. How timely and appropriate for me in my journey. Divine intervention is always available...
If only we could get a part 2 of this conversation, a 'where are they now' sort of thing, as their greatest adventures are still ahead 🙏💫🌟♾ *also, I'm strangely craving some half-baked waffles 🧇 😋
Ooh, loving that. They are both dead, so maybe if someone knows how to reach them in their new realm..
@@Flossy350 "dead"? 🤔 they have journied past... we shall see them again, when we too get Home, and/or elsewhere 😊🤗💫💚🙏🌟♾
@@mpv9866 sounds exciting going to find out more rn
For "part 2" see Ram Dass and Alan Watts. Those two men "connected the dots" correctly by listening intently. Not so of those who primarily "think." For it is not the "thinking" but the LISTENING that transform this world for the better. All human thought is limited and therefore IRRATIONAL by definition. And the Mind that is ALL, which many call "GOD," is our true Mind and the only Source of true, rational Thought. Our goal is to listen only to that Mind, and not the ego mind, as Jesus Christ did. Elijah has returned in these "end times," as prophesied. I correspond only via my contact page.
Profound. Layered. Masterful. It’s a gift that this has been recorded. The fact it is available at our fingertips is a miracle.
Velvet Revolution
Be the sign, don’t make the sign
Absolutely!!!!! I love seeing someone else appreciated how rare this is!!!! It should be written, and printed it's so beautiful.
The comedic angel / waiter is mind blowing🎉🎉🎉🎉
How perfect the role the waiter plays. Wow what a momentous moment in history, this meeting in Prague.
That waiter is so amazing and such a great part of this video