Ram Dass - Addiction and Attachment
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Ram Dass responds to questions dealing broadly with attachment and addiction. Throughout the Q&A he covers a myriad of different concepts including guilt, desire, co-dependency, intimacy, the root causes of negative behaviors, and the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous. Recorded in the Summer of 1989 as apart of 'The Listening Heart' retreat series.
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I’m paraphrasing here, but I deeply appreciate these words I once heard from Ram Dass on addiction. “Don’t try to overcome your attachment/addiction. Rather, be patient (by remaining in the present moment) and eventually the addiction won’t be so interesting to cling to - and it will fade.” I have come to learn this truth through my direct experience with addiction. Bless you all, and know that it gets better. 🙏🏽❤️
I’m not religious but what really helped me was feeling so desperate to escape it that I was begging god or the universe or anything to come help me. Nothing came but maybe some part of my own being woke up. I had no mystical experience or anything, eventually I fell asleep. The next day I woke up, got rid of everything, and haven’t used since. Maybe god helps those who help themselves as they say. It’s been only 8 weeks now but it’s the longest part of my adult life by about… 8 weeks. It was much easier than I thought to do. I just had to do it and I think clarifying that I wanted the addiction to end and no one coming to save me really did the trick. Either that or the lord does really work in the most mysterious of ways.
Every one of us has this (addiction); it's call wants! Only thru pure awareness can wants ceased!
Same, same. ❤
Well received
@@benkelly7182 well, maybe God heard you, even if that God is yourself. Hope you're doing well. You only fail when you give up trying to go forward. Aloha 🤙
Here's how addiction began with me...
"I took drugs because of a deep longing for mystical fulfillment.
I was starving metaphysically. I was so hungry I couldn't differentiate food from poison."
@allenanderson4911
-"I couldn't differentiate food from poison"
Poison is only one letter away from Potion.
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Alcohol is the gateway
I am at my 5th relapse since I've become aware that recovery is indeed possible for us addicts and I'm driving myself mad trying to understand what it is that I am not doing right that leads me to keep relapsing. It's despair that brings me to this video and I comment today with the hope that future me can come back and look at that comment and see what, if anything, has changed. I wish nothing but the best for future me, I hope we're okay.
Namaskaram, good luck and all the love
What do you do for your recovery? Do you have rituals or some sort of spiritual practice?
I've been sober for a number of years. I'm happy to chat with you if you'd like. Take care!
every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. this could be your last relapse that brings you to greater surrender, service and love.
Yeah just reach out, looks like someone offered help to chat with you. I can do the same, I have some experience
As a woman who has been by choice celibate and single for 8 years, Baba Ram Dass speaks to me. I may or may not find an individual willing to journey with me though love without physical intimacy. I spent many years doing quite the opposite, only to find when passion had faded that I was left with a human I barely knew, and often didn't even like. This has been the failure of relationships. The backwards culture that has caused so much grief. I am learning to love myself and accept my aloneness. His teachings on aging are timeless and are helping me so much.
Well said, and right there with you
Reading your comment while in the middle of the downfall of my relationship just made me realize what is actually happening. "I may or may not find an individual willing to journey with me though love without physical intimacy. I spent many years doing quite the opposite, only to find when passion had faded that I was left with a human I barely knew, and often didn't even like.: I feel that.
As a man, I found the same though not exclusively. I applaud your decision and celebrate a similar choice. May those who face similar situations grow in their paths of the best decisions for them. Blessings to you.
25 years for me. Asexual
Love this comment ❤
The first 13 minutes of this talk is a blueprint to overcoming vice. Thank you Ram Dass. I feel you through the veil.
I agree! 100%! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Thanks 😊
👆👆👆👆 If wanna get any psychedelics product,DMT mushrooms,LSD, candy bar 🍫💯...
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He is Here with Us, right Now
35 seconds in and I'm bawling over his kindness in acknowledging every human in saying "those who have a home" 😭😭😭
I’m really trying to find myself to love everyone and tell the truth. It’s really hard I have to admit. I still have some hate in me
Tears of joy. We are not alone 🥲
Odd
@@suncoasthoast9479 why do you have hate... That's not who your are...we are love 🙏🏻💖🕉️🔱💜
@@DubyaW111 thanks for the nice words. It spurs out from nowhere, and I try to invite it in for a cup of tea like ram dass says :) I mostly just observe it when it happens and realize that I am just along for the ride. It’s not wrong feelings, but I dismiss it as unrational neuroticism. I’ve come a long way from where I was some years ago, so I’m not unhappy with myself. Love you friend❤️
Wow! I have autism. My ability to communicate with words is limited. When asked about the woman's co-dependent relationship with God I wondered how Ram Dass would form his communication into words to answer her question? He had to think but his ability to explain and communicate so deeply is astounding. Maybe I am not progressed enough because I miss him but he is still around smiling at everyone. I can't put that into words how I know this but I feel it is so. He continues to spread love and joy. His videos are pleasant reminders. Thanks.
Yeah you're right my friend. I'm also on the autism spectrum and I have also felt Ram dass' presence. He's helped me in real practical ways, by helping me think in a spiritual way
So true my brother I went through the same thoughts
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I commented on this video a year ago but I wanted to update: I’m a peer recovery coach now. I help others with their own battle of addiction now with my own stories of how I got through it. That’s my old karma running off. It does get better. Develop the observer. I often use RD’s words: “you don’t need a bus ticket to Detroit when you’re already in Detroit”. The process ever continues. I love you all. ❤
I had an awakening when overcoming my addiction. During it, I became so high on the divine energy, higher than any drug ever got me. I found out later this is the bliss stage of consciousness. I reminisce on the feeling, the messages. Missing that, but knowing that's okay too, makes me welcome and look forward to without attachment to the possibility.
Thank you for this video. I needed the reminder/ perspective.
Much love and gratitude always. ❤
Great way to start the morning. To all who see this, I wish you peace and stillness in your minds.
Thank you. I'm gay and currently going through conversion therapy and learning to let go of my cravings for men has been extremely helpful in my recovery ❤
@@flibflob69 recovery from what? your natural desires?
@@slimeballsake I love men so much
"Until you can find the place within yourself to be at peace without having what you want, THEN you are in the optimum position to get what you want." Wow.......
"Don't worry about the addiction; it'll fall away when it'll fall away."
you can't stop what happens. you don't decide what happens. You don't exist as a concept. You exist as the observer of all concepts. To think you decide is to be unsure of who you are. To the world, you are a name and a form. But you see name and you see form. Who are you?
Not even an observer@@jamesjackson5020
I've witnessed this in my own life. If I have a habit that I don't like and I want to change it, I've found the best thing for me to do is to just observe it non-judgmentally for a while. I make small attempts to do other things instead but if I fail sometimes that's fine. And over time I find that my subconscious or whatever gets the job done and the habit just falls away, almost effortlessly. It seems to work for starting positive habits too.
Awareness + intention + non-judgement is like a magic trick. Things seem to happen "on their own", no willpower needed - just add a bit of patience and hey presto:)
A lot of subtext there…but it’s that strange paradox of trying so hard yet not trying at all.
When I began spiritual practices this is exactly what happened to me and I have been sober ever since. Ram Dass was right.
Love when RD acknowledges the babies in the audience when they chime in.
Always 🩵
👆👆👆👆 If wanna get any psychedelics product,DMT mushrooms,LSD, candy bar 🍫💯,,,
Yes that melts my heart ❤
I was listening to this and realizing he sounds a lot like Eckhart Tolle or Eckhart sounds like him, and then I reflected on other people that frame the same message differently...
And I was thankful for this as I listened,
But also for the silence of the audience paying attention - which you could almost hear in the silence; a thing so rare in today's world. Before cell phones. Before social media.
A peaceful space. So Ram dass wasn't just himself, but also all of the listening audience in a way. I'm thankful for the recording. For the Love of listening.
So grateful for this today. Living the first day alone after my ex-partner left me and this has kept me company during the quiet moments. Thank you for the lessons!
Ram Dass & Jack Kornfield talks are good for that. I know this from experience, sadly. It definitely gets better though.
No advice to give but sending best wishes to you
Hang in there
You aren't alone in your pain, don't feel alone, trust that things will get better because what else you gonna do? 😂🤌🏼
I know how it feels, no advise, may Allah bless you 🙏
That woman with the question about the relationships has the most lovely voice
I love You Ram Dass🤍 and all watching this video! We are One.
This man, and the wonderful people in these comments… What a soulful spot to hang out. Thank you, each of you, for sharing. 💕
If you only watch one of his videos, let it be this one 🙏
2:41 “It might be a moment of surfing- When you transcend the dualism between you and nature”
After I lost my son…. My mom took my daughters… turned them against me… I turned to Buddhism because it was the only thing that gave me relief and control. I fall asleep listening to Ram Dass and I read “We’re all doing time” by bo lozoff.
My mom's toxic unhealed critical n hurtful ..I can say now i feel sorry 4 her..hurt people hurt others..I also have embraced buddhist practices to help me n cope with others
I also have a toxic mom (narcissist & cult member). I found meditation 4 years ago and my buddhist practice 2 years ago, and I know that this is My Path. Both practices have helped me immensely. I am learning in buddhism what I should have learned in christianity--I have positive role models in buddhism and I had garbage role models in christianity. That makes a huge difference.
It is certainly very difficult to be separated from our children, and a relief indeed to release attachment. I read a book of Bo's while in jail. It might have been three same one. It was quite a beautiful read! 🥰🙏🏼🌺
as corny as it sounds these videos really help me not off myself..
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I hope you continue to listen❤
Bless you. I pray for you to be showered by love ♥️
Totally understand❤
I am very happy about that!!
Incredible answer to the woman's question with co dependency... also i gott point out her voice was beautiful I love the way she spoke and articulates ♡
Yes!!!!! Her statements really resonates with me as she was able to articulate how I feel!!
yes, beautiful
It sounds like a young Tara Brach 😭
The opening to this talk really speaks to me. I've been dealing with emotional eating for most of my life. I'm glad he brought that up in the context of addiction because that's what it truly is. And that cycle of indulgence and guilt is so real. I'm still stuck in it currently but I'm trying every day to change my perspective and view it the way he describes here.
Hope you find your way out. I had the same problem in my life. I hate to say this but It took a family member making fun of me to truly change me. My self image changed that day and i beat that addiction that day.
I pray your overcoming your addiction cycle. Peace ☮️ ❤️
What a brilliant answers to complex questions! I was a member of AA for years but had to take the spiritual part of my recovery much further than anything AA could offer.
What do you mean
I understand you completely. I was getting lost in 12 step recovery...my fault not theirs. I still connected but not to meetings but service and largely literature...conference approved and many others on the psychospiritual path. Recovery is a wide path...I will always be an multi 12 stepper however I found quality not quantity in my path.
I haven't heard any words as true. I've been starved of affection for a while now. I feel like in this lifetime it just isn't in the cards I've been dealt. So I cling to people whenever I can. Trying to feel something, anything. Even if what I feel isn't reciprocated, I like to live in that fantasy for as long as I can.
If anyone out there feels alone, I'm with you in spirit. Don't give up on living because someone might be depending on you to help themselves stay alive.
Omg that's me I have been going through that myself thankyou for sharing
I'm there as well. My husband died a year ago. Lonely Sad snd Alone. Nothing worse from my perspective. How does one move ahead....
❤ was just feeling this yesterday some time thank you for the reminder ❤
Wish I had a partner..still waiting
This is the single best and accurate approach to addiction I've ever heard. Thaank you !
I never thought I would detach from thc but I am...it's so odd to desire chasing freedom in my pure form. Thank you Ram dass you came to me at the right time ❤
I loved every segment, the one about releasing your personal history is so resonate right now. Although I don’t have stacks or boxes of photos and a fire to burn but instead thousands of hours worth of videos and tens of thousands of photos stored on my devices, stored on hard drives, and I think, for what? Why do I feel better without it but letting go is so hard, as if it will erase my spirit.. it won’t! “I keep discarding stuff… I don’t know why I had it in the first place”
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Baba Ram Dass. You are still HERE. Thank you 🙏 for this upload. Namaste 🙏 world PEACE!!!!! Please 🙏 Homo sapiens sapiens we are ALL ONE! Stop the wars! Stop the killings. We are one human race. I love you forever ♾️ Kris Edward. Valdez.
💜💜💜 Thank-you
"Allow yourself the sadness,allow yourself the loss, allow yourself the grieving ,allow yourself the not having what I want & cry & do whatever you need to to do..so you can say ok hear I am"....
You can't allow yourself anything because you and yourself are not different.
@@jamesjackson5020 that's why("commas are there " ) ...💓🙂
@jamesjackson5020 clear emotions ( energy in motion).. no resistance & what's left ...BEING...
How intelligent Ram Dass is...! What a well thought out answer to that girl's question such an impressive intellect
Yes. When the Heart/Being shines through the mind, the mind is truly beautiful, as it naturally Is
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson you are correct I'm in bad need of a vacation or trip if you will, do clear some old pollution take out the trash cuz my mind is not a hundred percent right now
He's incredible. Why? Because he knows who he really is.
@@jamesjackson5020 💯
I love Ram Dass so much ❤
Ram Dass is a friend to all who seek Truth. . .yup
RAM DASS IS THE GOAT of all aspects of awareness!
This is what my mind is constantly looking for and I found it here. This is amazing for calming anxiety, self perception and goals. You could be in a depressive environment and use these to take yourself wherever you want to go. A lot of great info and fantastic exercises here. Thanks for posting this it’s truly life changing!
So uplifting and gentle...your message is a balm to my broken soul.
Ram Dass was and still is a gift. His teachings have brought such peace, tranquility and love to my life/soul.
Blessed be ❤
Awesome!! I especially love the piece about AA history near the end of the audio.
I have been married 21 years to a wonderful man. Got widowed at age 51 on 5-10-2019 my 4 year sobriety. I met a widowed man in AA that wanted to be my friend. He was a narcissist manipulator and I was an empathetic needed woman 👩🏻 yesterday I became homeless and this man continues with his 42 years of sobriety. I AM now 8 years sober and still work in health industry skilled nursing 😊I see these patients in beds surrounded by their stuff and it saddens me to think that humans can experience such lives. I will keep letting go of attachments 😮
Keep going! Don't give up❤
i’ve been listening to you lately baba i just love your teachings. you make being human understandable
I use crocheting as a return to balance and self realization.
So clear, authentic and beautiful. This is Grace, You are that Grace. Thank you my beautiful beautiful friend. You are It!
Ive stopped drinking 9 months ago without much effort. Was bordering addiction somhow. Looking back, this is the one video that helped most. First 15 minutes will do it once you understand
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I really needed this for the last week omg it’s my life he speaks I have been to one rehab was shit came out with nothing but what knew when I went in I didn’t need a dam conversation about the effects of drugs and alcohol… so funny right 4 years on I watched this last week is it gonna change me ..what it does is fills my heart with acceptance of myself or the beginning of it for once all I ever wanted was to know I’m okay
I love you Ram Dass, when I’m at the point where I lose myself, I will think of you to bring me back 🙏🏻 God bless
What a brilliant guy, what a wonderful spirit Ram Dass was and will always be. Thank YOU.
This discussion is so important and amazing! So relevant and deep. Jai Jai Sri Hanuman 🌺🙏🏼
Incredible. Master teacher So grateful for his teachings here
Ram Dass brings me home ♥️
Even after all these years, thank you for still helping the world and people like me. This was a piece that could not have come at a better tit was as if by god sent ❤❤❤
Like I have said, when you are truly enlightened everything is a meditation.
When God asked me, what side of the blade are you on. I answered, on the side of the righteous my words are my sword.
There is nothing in the Universe that is not a double edged sword. A cup of water can sate and drown. Your shadow can comfort you or trip you. The singularity created us. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means Heaven. Hubba means love. It's the slang of Hebrew. Yeshua of Nazareth spoke both.
God told me to make Israel one. It means to bring peace and reconciliation between Jew, Christian, Muslim; cousins by Abraham. L'chaim. I feel like the luckiest girl in the world. Sincerely, your local Jewish Sufi Christian Buddhist mystic otherwise known as Hey You.
I think this is my favorite of Ram Dass
Ramdas is so intelligent.
All the answers are so amazing. ❤️
Blessings.
That was fantastic. Love his humour, it's a beautiful balance between being childlike and the teacher. 🙏🏻💜🇨🇦
This man has helped me transform my life , I just wish I could have discovered these teachings as a teenager 😉👌🏻☝🏻❤️
14:00 We are already part of God so the self trying to have a relationship with God is not necessary. Just be. You already got it.
Ram Dass and Samaneri Jayasara, my trusty anchors through the storm of life.
wow. his wisdom is absolutely wild. thank you for sharing
I'm so grateful for these talks.❤
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Love this guy. Even his voice is so true
Can we just talk about what a beast Jung was? The daringly honest soul of a professional who will directly tell you “Nothing will help. Go see if you can get suckered into a religion,” could tell everyone what they truly lack. I’m humbled. I’d choke on that sentence til I coughed out a lie.
Jung thought Africans were inferior. So yeah he was a beast. A racist.
He said you had to integrate the shadow, essentially, you must not be understanding his work…
@@sabrinaszabo9355what? Did you not listen to this video? What were guys tripping about 😂
@@daysjoursAs a black guy, Iiii don’t care? Wisdom is wisdom wherever it is, and if you shun it you miss it. That’s the real danger of prejudice.
“That’s all I am. Your own answer.”
Love you Ram Dass ❤️ thank you
Such a beautiful talk. Thank you for the share!
Agree
I love his, 'and here I am'. And here I am.
Thanks Ram Dass.
Love you
Thanks!
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I remember Ram Das when he wore a suit and was a guest lecturer at Suny at Buffalo. He spoke of his dying mother who he wanted to give LSD. He was impressive then, he's still relevant.
He's always been brilliant. Maharaji got into his heart and changed everything about him. Maharaji is the real gem, and Ram Dass was lucky enough for him to enter his heart
bring mindfulness to everything
Deepest Gratitude 🌹💜🌹🙏🏼
This Q and A group contemplative awareness that Ram Dass immersed within is phenomenal, deeply profound, and valuable. Incredible.
Thank you for uploading this❤
Agree
What are you without your personal history?!? A question out of Aura-surgery actually ❤
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You calm my mind and make me see my real self in the oneness! I love you from the bottom of my heart 💜
Thank you 🙏🏽 for being with us, you wonderful soul ❤
Thank You ❤️Baba Ram Dass❤️
I now realize Ram Dass was actually just another person addicted to getting back to God who made a living selling getting back to God. But charming and smart.
we all talk like we know what god is….. isn’t that funny when you think about it? we start with an assumption. always.
"The basic root of suffering is thought, then clinging of the mind to **things which Seperate ONE from ALL OF IT." >> Thoughts/ Feelings/ Action= personality. Clean up thoughts, start here. (Look up Dr. Joe Dispenza, his work is practical, a real game changer) We are consumed by thoughts. It is a wicked conditioning. I've been practicing changing my "beliefs" for almost 20 years. Started in mid 20's when faced with life/ death. Had to surrender as allopathic medicine failed me. I haven't been "sick" since. Had to break away those chains of the mind enslavement. Daily practice is crucial. Stay thirsty my friends. 💝
RD’s defining intimacy, love as they relate to sex. The wise explanation is so beautifully laid out.
This is unparalleled. I had the privilege of reading something similar, and it was truly unparalleled. "The Joy of Less: A Minimalist Living Guide" by Matthew Cove
It is better to become Christ than to visit Him. Wow. Just wow.
This is the Way
Needed this one today gonna stop at around 15 mins and come back
This was prior to the need for Trauma Awareness. I have not seen that regular spiritual practice is enough for those heavily addicted. The Trauma must be addressed.
Listen closely at 45:15 mins.
I think he’s wrong about breath work and emotional release. It can be highly effective-The sitting practices are invaluable as complementary tools-but they’re inadequate for trauma release and integration.
love me some Ram Dass
Real doctors real people. Thanks
😂 🤣 thank you for my favorite gag this April 1st!
And kudos for an extremely effective demonstration of the common flaws in many AI automatic conversions! From noses, ears, glasses, to reflections, background details, etc...
That said, it also probably wouldn't be completely unwatchable!
Wow so wonderful and much needed by me now!
43:05 - “Until you can find the place in yourself that could be at peace without having what you want, then you are in the optimum position to get what you want. Because until then, your need for it is creating some thing and everyone you meet, that is reducing the potential of that relationship to be meeting a true being of spirit in the right place.”
There is an innocence in these older recordings I remember the adults of my childhood I was born in the mid mid 70's
There is a noticeable difference now I'm thinking these people could n oil t imagine how much life was going to change with technology I notice many videos with ram dash speaking and nobody is holding a cell phone and a part of me misses those days but also it's allowed me to ffg ind Ram Das I don't have the money he had to go off to India so I'm able to to get some of it through the technology now available but I do miss the way people use ti connect more in the community when out and about
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nice, still B4 the stroke(s). Not the early 70s, so a bit more polished. That goldylocks period. I only followed him in early '70s - late, so missed this. Last 1/2 hr, 15 min he burns SO Brightly - really fulfilling his purpose there~
Wow! RD really lays it out from technical language to common simplicity. Funny I got more in touch with God than I ever did right now.
RD is saying things that many other preachers,holy men, and teachers have told me...the difference is I'm listening. Thousands of blues players playing the same song. Recovery for addiction is a wide path with many choices...pick one and run with it...I did...still going.
My favourite channel on UA-cam by far ❤❤
Thank you dear Ram Dass.....
Such powerful words. ❤
As always. Ram Dass is a reliable pillar of brilliance
Suffering but this r3sonated so much iam so blessed now now the discipline 😊
Thank you❤
Thanks you Papa Ramdass
Alright Alright yes sir. Then you will be my sailor. Thanks you Papa Ramdass.
Looking back to 1989...I was raised by animals compared to This Lecture and Teaching. My Parents were addicts and alcoholics. They Never Taught me anything ON purpose. I Learned by Accidents and just going with the flow with No confidence in the 80's and 90's when I was a kid.
I'm so sorry. There is a better path. We can find it. 🕊️
With a name like Rammed Ass I gotta listen cause this guy has to know how to psychologically overcome
So good. Thanks for sharing