$1600-1900 just shows how out of control the market has gotten. The triple action mechanism is interesting, but there is nothing else extraordinary here. This should be a $600-$800ish gun realistically.
@@ParrotTactical bought both of mine in 1998 and if I remember correctly I paid 625 or so for both of them I’d have to get in the safe and look in the boxes one on the receipt for sure
As a Korean American, I need to get a hold of one of these new Vulcans. The price is prohibitive, sure, but that doesn't sway my biased interest in the product. Thanks Ian for finally uploading a detailed video on it. Information on this pistol is somewhat limited.
When the Daewoo DP51 first came out it was quite popular with LEOs in my area. Most of us had to buy our own guns and you could get a DP51 and spare mag for less than about anything else on the market. And that Triple-Action let you tote it in places that frowned on single-action guns. At that time I was married to a lady who was also a cop and while she preferred a K-frame revolver, she needed a semi-auto and wound up with a DP51. I was familiar with it from other cops in my area but I got to shoot hers a lot and it was a really good little gun. Despite that chunky grip it fit her lady-sized hand quite well. Crazy to think that what is essentially a modern version of a great budget gun now goes for nearly two grand!
Daewoo made a banger DVD player back in the day. it had the ability to change the pitch of whatever you were watching. god only knows why this was a feature, but it made movies way funnier lol
Could be wrong, but I know that karaoke is huge in Asia and having pitch control was a must. This way if you are a tenor, but the song was sung by a soprano, you could pitch down the song and vice versa. The DVD player might have been intended for users to play karaoke DVDs.
Here in Germany Daewoo is sadly only known for the very bland cars they pushed into the market in the nineties. Later GM took over Daewoo Motors and tried to push the still very bland cars into the european market as Chevrolets. Which hurt Chevrolets reputation pretty badly.
Love my Lionheart LH9. One of my go to carry guns. Absolute joy to shoot, plus I had plenty of S&W 59xx mags in my collection making range trips a breeze
I remember selling the DP-51 & 51C for $250 in my shop. Some aftermarket S&W mags required a little pinch on the bottom with channel locks to fit in the Daewoo mag well.
since Daewoo was one of the big south korean firms which got government assistance to get foreign experts and tooling to scale up production sometime in the 60's I think. I bet the Piano business was a sideproduct for government music schools because Daewoo was one of the few companies with good enough tooling to make them and they were already a government contractor.. might have been cheaper than for Koreans to import Pianos?
My DP was a kimber import. Best thing ever made with Kimber stamped on it. That’s because Kimber didn’t manufacture it. Also 59xx mag gang. The Glawkmag boys before Glawk mags were a thing.
@@monotech20.14 They *used* to make high end guns. Once they got popular for that, they went way downmarket in their attempts to crank up volume to exploit their new found fame. Let's just say that of Kimbers I've seen in the last decade, more than 90 percent needed a gunsmith's attention to work properly in the long run.
I found a super nice DP51 at a gunshow and man it is a fantastic pistol. Great trigger and super accurate. Mine came with one OG 13 round mag and two S&W mags.
I had a Lionheart LC9. They called it "Double Action Plus" in the marketing at the time, and it is a terrible gimmick. The sights on mine were also so off that to be zeroed at 7 yards required the rear sight to be halfway out of the dovetail. Like Ian said, the DA+ had you chamber a round then push the hammer forward. Not a control lever, the hammer itself. This gave you a trigger pull somewhere between a single and double action trigger. However, when pulling the trigger the hammer would reach a point where it would fly back into the SA position and cause the gun to jerk, all but guaranteeing a first round miss.
There were pistols like this that had what I would call "configurable" safety systems that I never went in for. Another one was the Browning BDA. It was a cool looking gun that felt amazing in the hand but it had a screw slot adjustment on the back of the slide that made it possible to change the mode of the safety. I honestly forget what the options were but to me it was a bit too convoluted. As was the Daewoo pistol. But that is a preference issue. I prefer a double single with a simple decocker. I have both my CZs set up like this and the M9A4 I own is also decock only.
The new owners of Lionheart were the only firearms manufacturers that came to the 2020 SHOT Show forum on growing the firearms community. They stuck around and had conversations with the speakers, I was one of them. I hope they find a lot of success. I handled their latest pistols at their booth, and they seem very well built with lots of features. The prices are in line with feature rich, well made, all metal production guns from CZ & SIG.
My Dad had one (I think my Brother still has it) but it grouped like a shotgun. Which may in fact be that particular pistol and not representative of that model and brand. I haven't laid eyes on it in 20 years.
I just picked up a later Ultrastar model and it's a whole lot like my cz p-07. Because they are both derived from cz 75 but went to polymer 9mm da/sa guns. I think its neat that the Spanish Star company took "inspiration" from cz and went for the at the time modernization, just for cz to end up in the same boat 15 years later
I've got several of them right now...has to be one of the most underrated handguns on the market right now. Also have owned several DP51s...excellent guns. The triple action seems like it would be kind of a gimmick, but it actually works really well. Excellent ergonomics on it too.
Early LH9s also had a different more 1911 commander style hammer, no indicator paint whatsoever, and old style Daewoo dovetail sights with a blacked out rear. They had a transition period where they sold an LH9N model updating the slides to using Novak cuts, which became the standard pretty quickly and I'm not entirely sure if the guns were ever explicitly marked with the N in the model code on the gun or not. When they first launched, Lionheart was a great company to work with as a small FFL, it's a shame their products are entirely unaffordable for most folks nowadays. Edit: I forgot there was also the original railed frame model, called the LH9 Mk II around the same time as the LH9N. Their catalog was a hot mess with LH9, LH9N, LH9C, LH9 MkII with all but the baseline LH9 available in black, patriot brown and sniper grey. At one point Lionheart discussed a similar strategy to IWI to bring in the K2 in some form with final manufacturing and assembly in Washington but that project fizzled and probably was abandoned when the company changed ownership (to the best of my knowledge)
The fictional Seburo M5 was a rotating barrel pistol in the Soviet 5.45×18mm cartridge. We know today that it's a wimpy cartridge roughly equivalent in performance to a .22 long rifle, but Shirow didn't know that at the time. Today he'd probably choose the FN 5.7x28 or the .22 TCM, both of which would do the job he envisioned for the Seburo better than the Soviet cartridge. That said, it does rather look like the M5 that Masamune Shirow conceived.
This video is funny cause the dp-51 was my parents bed side gun my whole life and the first gun i ever shot and i thought it was just something no one knew or cared about
I remember shooting one of the triple-action pistols a long time ago. I thought it was kinda cool, but I've never had trouble with the double-to-single transition, so I memory-holed it until now. I'm pretty sure it was the original K5. I liked it but I didn't have the money for another pistol at the time.
Para Ordnance came out with a very similar action on their LDA (Light Double Action). It seemed like a cool idea at the beginning of the 2000's, but I could never shoot it very well.
I love my DP51. I upgraded it with a bunch of lionheart parts when I messed up the slide...from my experience Lionheart has great customer service but their prices for new guns are too high for my budget.
I grabbed a Lionheart LH9 about 10 years ago when they were on clearance from somewhere I don’t remember. It was the standard sight model. Also had on with Novaks available. I believe it was sub-$400 at the time. Didn’t keep it. Wish I would have. It was a neat piece. They use S&W 59 series mags too.
SNT Motiv still makes the K-5 for the ROK Military and makes the DP51, DP51C, DP51 mk 2, and DP51C mk 2 for the export market. For the last 5-6 years, SNT Motiv has also been developing a 9x19mm DA/SA revolver called the STRV9 and a 9x19mm striker fired polymer framed pistol called the STP9 (looks like a hybrid of a Glock 19 with the ambi-manual safety from the K5). South Korean special operations have mostly replaced the K5 pistol with the H&K USP-9 Compact Tactical and Glock 19.
I got a dp51 recently with original mag and 4 s&w mags for 375 two months ago. Awesome gun, you can over insert the s&w mags tho, I need to 3D print a grip sleeve at some point to stop it.
About a decade ago, SNT Motiv stopped development of the K-2 series with the K-2C1 being the last variant. Basically improved the K2 by giving it picantinny rails for optics/attachments and a M4 style shoulder stock. After testing, the South Korean Military adopted the K-2C1 as the "modernized" replacement for the K-2. The trials for the replacement for the K-1A resulted in a stop gap adoption of a modernization kit (picantinny rail system with M4 style shoulder stock, similar to the K-2C1) for standard issue use and the adoption of the SNT Motiv STC-16 (K-13) for South Korean special operations use. The SNT Motiv STC-16 is "classified" (no one had been allowed to disassemble it and show it to the public), but its being described as the Korean version of a hybrid of the H&K HK416 and SIG MCX. The South Korean Military is currently trying to budget the K-13 as the eventually replacement for all of the K-1A carbines and K-2 rifles in active military service.
The DP51 is a damn good gun. Well made, shoots very good and the ergo's are great. And the tri action syatem is very cool.i ha e had offers well above it's worth for mine. Not selling.
Agree that ROK soldiers are generally of slighter build than their US counterparts, but quite honestly, the largest human being I ever saw in a military uniform was a ROK Marine in Pusan that had to have been at least 6'8" by my estimation, and that's probably conservative. This guy was HUGE.
now if they would make the Daewoo rifles.. K1, K2, K3 DR200.. gone but not forgotten.. lol took decades for mfg's to catch up to their mash-up of systems
When I was first getting into the hobby I had the LH9 on my To Buy list for the longest time. It never happened and now it’s hard to justify the price. They’re very neat, but I don’t know if I’ll ever have one.
The "triple-action" sounds like H&K's LEM trigger, except you don't have to manually push the hammer forward (the H&K hammer is spring-loaded forward). To me, a perfect carry trigger -- no heavy double-action pull, but unlike a striker-fired gun there's a long, light pull before it fires -- a bit of an additional safety margin.
I like the H&K LEM fire control Kind of a similar mechanism but the hammer lowers itself so you can either ride the reset like a single action or have a super light double action just by letting go the whole way
Great video!👍 Some years ago, I bought a Lionheart LH9 MKII (marked as your second example but has a light rail) from a pawn shop because I was interested in the Triple Action. Picked up some S&W 59 mags, had a holster made, and it’s a decent 9mm setup. Sorry to hear they are now overpriced. I like mine.🙂
All hammer pistols should use this system. Unfortunately, few do. The same idea is implemented by H&K on the HK45 and it is bees knees. H&K did it a bit better, the hammer goes down on its own once you release the trigger.
Love the Video! can you do a full run-down/review of your Tricked-out 1990s Delta Force 1911 from the 2-gun Match video. It would be greatly appreciated.
Weeb: "I bought a old military-service pistol!" Range Officer: "Colt, Beretta? Sig? Browning?" Weeb: "Nope, Daewoo." Range Officer: "Like the car?" Weeb: "Yup." Range Officer: "Get off my range." Funny how Daewoo firearms were able to outlive the reliability concerns considering their automobile industry. Who would want a Daewoo vehicle? Now cross that over to their firearms. Yikes! That said; they seems to be better. But $1600+ better? Uh, no. TBH: that triple-action is pretty slick! I didn't understand at first when Ian said to "push the hammer forward" to enable the 3rd mode. Now I know. Still seems complicated though compared to most modern striker-fired military service pistols.
Daewoo was a mega conglomerate with about a dozen subsidiaries. Daewoo Precision Industries was the subsidiary that made firearms and they received training & assistance from Colt during the 1970s. As a whole, Daewoo had been making firearms longer than they had been making vehicles. Daewoo Motors was the subsidiary that made cars and they initially were created with the help from Mitsubishi engineers, which is why the Daewoo cars first used engines made by Mitsubishi during the 1980s. Daewoo Heavy Industries was the subsidiary that made heavy vehicles (construction vehicles and armored military vehicles). They were separate from Daewoo Motors and were initially set up by German engineers during the 1970s.
Ian FWIW, a really really really minor point - here in the UK, we’ve had Daewoo cars imported for *years*, and from early on the Korean pronunciation that was ‘recommended’ (ig?) is Day-ooh, making the ‘w’ silent. It’s not really important, the words are perfectly understandable however you say it, just thought you might like some suggestion, such as it is🤓🤓
I concur. I get what the new owners of Lionheart were going for, but it unintentionally (and unfortunately) ended up looking quite atrocious. For me, the worst offenders are the features on the Regulus and Vulcan - the former with its cutout on the frame (is it trying to be a milled AK receiver?) and both with their usable but awkwardly-shaped slide serrations (what are those, parking building wall arrows?). I prefer the LH9. Kitted up, but still simple and to the point.
If i recall, cz75 preB you could run the d/a from the halfcock notch, and on the tanfoglio clone thereof..you can also apply the thumb safety on half cock. But admittedly the d/a wont be as light a pull as on this thing.
I’ve had 2 of the dp-51 and I love both of them bought them new in 1998 one is still new in the box the other has been carried since I bought It. They will shoot any ammo you want them to. Maybe 20 failures to feed it that whole time
So they take a pistol that changed hands 3 times due to financial reasons then new owners are trying to sell them for nearly 2k.. "bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off"
Yes, Winder GA is pronounced with the hard 'I' as in 'wind up a watch'. Having a bent for service-style firearms, I like the original, though that tri-action lockwork doesn't appeal.
I was very interesed in the original lionheart when they started, i was looking at them to replace a sig p225, ive looked at them recently and had sticker shock
Very nice firecontrol system… have you ever done a dive i to the para ordinance LDA system? Worth a look, if you arent familiar with the Long double action set up
Nice to see my service weapon's export versions. I got newer production s&t K5 and it has exactly same design as dp51 except changes in markings.. It's unfortunate that service weapons did't get those new features...
$1600-1900 just shows how out of control the market has gotten. The triple action mechanism is interesting, but there is nothing else extraordinary here. This should be a $600-$800ish gun realistically.
I bought a DH40 back in 2001 for $350.
Nah man, its a boutique gun made in small batches but in the US. You can do far worse like that. Its probably the cheapest! Lol
@@ParrotTactical bought both of mine in 1998 and if I remember correctly I paid 625 or so for both of them I’d have to get in the safe and look in the boxes one on the receipt for sure
I agree pricing should be $800/900 Although the Vulcan branded pistol is pretty sweet!
My old Browning BDM has a 3 action. Pretty cool
Dude I loved the lionheart when it came out for $399. Such a hipster gun with the “triple action” trigger. Wish the new ones didn’t cost 1k$ plus
As a Korean American, I need to get a hold of one of these new Vulcans. The price is prohibitive, sure, but that doesn't sway my biased interest in the product. Thanks Ian for finally uploading a detailed video on it. Information on this pistol is somewhat limited.
I just hope you won't need to defend any rooftops with it.
My girlfriend is Korean but is getting her American citizenship soon. She loves shooting and I’m sure she’ll be excited about these guns :)
I love my early DP51. Picked it up for an absolute steal and have run it in competition. “Fast Action” is a great way to start a stage.
When the Daewoo DP51 first came out it was quite popular with LEOs in my area. Most of us had to buy our own guns and you could get a DP51 and spare mag for less than about anything else on the market. And that Triple-Action let you tote it in places that frowned on single-action guns. At that time I was married to a lady who was also a cop and while she preferred a K-frame revolver, she needed a semi-auto and wound up with a DP51. I was familiar with it from other cops in my area but I got to shoot hers a lot and it was a really good little gun. Despite that chunky grip it fit her lady-sized hand quite well. Crazy to think that what is essentially a modern version of a great budget gun now goes for nearly two grand!
Daewoo made a banger DVD player back in the day. it had the ability to change the pitch of whatever you were watching. god only knows why this was a feature, but it made movies way funnier lol
Could be wrong, but I know that karaoke is huge in Asia and having pitch control was a must. This way if you are a tenor, but the song was sung by a soprano, you could pitch down the song and vice versa. The DVD player might have been intended for users to play karaoke DVDs.
@@captaiawesome2260 that makes a lot of sense
@@captaiawesome2260 You are 100% correct.
Here in Germany Daewoo is sadly only known for the very bland cars they pushed into the market in the nineties.
Later GM took over Daewoo Motors and tried to push the still very bland cars into the european market as Chevrolets.
Which hurt Chevrolets reputation pretty badly.
Daewoo cars sucked hard.
Lionhardt should try and get us some new k2 rifles that would be awesome.
Yes
Love my Lionheart LH9. One of my go to carry guns. Absolute joy to shoot, plus I had plenty of S&W 59xx mags in my collection making range trips a breeze
I find it fascinating that Ian has a DP51 in his personal collection, complete with a S&W replacement mag.
@@ecthelion83 model 59 mags
I remember selling the DP-51 & 51C for $250 in my shop. Some aftermarket S&W mags required a little pinch on the bottom with channel locks to fit in the Daewoo mag well.
@@donwyoming1936inexpensive ones definitely need the pinch or they have to be ripped from the magwell.
"Our handguns are not to your liking? Maybe our line of pianos might interest you. "
'If you purchase this grand piano, we'll throw in a free handgun...'
since Daewoo was one of the big south korean firms which got government assistance to get foreign experts and tooling to scale up production sometime in the 60's I think. I bet the Piano business was a sideproduct for government music schools because Daewoo was one of the few companies with good enough tooling to make them and they were already a government contractor.. might have been cheaper than for Koreans to import Pianos?
Daewoo made cars too. lots of them, and ships and pretty much everything else.
@@blackcountryme The cars were funny but if you kept up the maintenance 200K mi mini shit boxes for everybody
Back in the 80’s I asked a Korean what daewoo meant in Korean. He thought about it…. and told me “closest I can get is Big Cow “
I find the early-mid late 80s is when pistol ergos really started to improve and get the ball rolling of where we are today
i really wish they would bring back the older models, retro guns are hot right now. they would sell for sure.
now we need someone to hook Ian up with a DPI Piano for a April 1st video
13:44 "i think the cool kids are calling that a gas pedal"
Wait wait I'm a cool kid...I thought I was just that weird dude with a trunk of guns.
I came very close to buying a DP51. It fitted my hand so well it pointed spot on and I could have hit targets without the sights...
What kept you?
My DP was a kimber import. Best thing ever made with Kimber stamped on it. That’s because Kimber didn’t manufacture it.
Also 59xx mag gang. The Glawkmag boys before Glawk mags were a thing.
I thought Kimber made high end guns? Doesn't LA detectives SIS use their .45s?
All the Daewoo's I had in the shop came from Century Arms. They carried them in the catalog for many years.
Kimber *used to* make good guns before Ron Cohen took over…funny how that’s happening at SIG now too…
@@monotech20.14 Kimber makes guns, that much we know for sure. "High end" is debatable.
@@monotech20.14 They *used* to make high end guns. Once they got popular for that, they went way downmarket in their attempts to crank up volume to exploit their new found fame. Let's just say that of Kimbers I've seen in the last decade, more than 90 percent needed a gunsmith's attention to work properly in the long run.
I found a super nice DP51 at a gunshow and man it is a fantastic pistol. Great trigger and super accurate. Mine came with one OG 13 round mag and two S&W mags.
Loving the Ebolian Summer camouflage smock - the Winter version is vivid yellow & blue...naturally.
I had a Lionheart LC9. They called it "Double Action Plus" in the marketing at the time, and it is a terrible gimmick. The sights on mine were also so off that to be zeroed at 7 yards required the rear sight to be halfway out of the dovetail.
Like Ian said, the DA+ had you chamber a round then push the hammer forward. Not a control lever, the hammer itself. This gave you a trigger pull somewhere between a single and double action trigger. However, when pulling the trigger the hammer would reach a point where it would fly back into the SA position and cause the gun to jerk, all but guaranteeing a first round miss.
There were pistols like this that had what I would call "configurable" safety systems that I never went in for. Another one was the Browning BDA. It was a cool looking gun that felt amazing in the hand but it had a screw slot adjustment on the back of the slide that made it possible to change the mode of the safety. I honestly forget what the options were but to me it was a bit too convoluted. As was the Daewoo pistol. But that is a preference issue. I prefer a double single with a simple decocker. I have both my CZs set up like this and the M9A4 I own is also decock only.
The new owners of Lionheart were the only firearms manufacturers that came to the 2020 SHOT Show forum on growing the firearms community. They stuck around and had conversations with the speakers, I was one of them. I hope they find a lot of success. I handled their latest pistols at their booth, and they seem very well built with lots of features. The prices are in line with feature rich, well made, all metal production guns from CZ & SIG.
You should look at the 90s Star firestar series of pistols.
My Dad had one (I think my Brother still has it) but it grouped like a shotgun. Which may in fact be that particular pistol and not representative of that model and brand. I haven't laid eyes on it in 20 years.
I just picked up a later Ultrastar model and it's a whole lot like my cz p-07. Because they are both derived from cz 75 but went to polymer 9mm da/sa guns. I think its neat that the Spanish Star company took "inspiration" from cz and went for the at the time modernization, just for cz to end up in the same boat 15 years later
I've got several of them right now...has to be one of the most underrated handguns on the market right now. Also have owned several DP51s...excellent guns. The triple action seems like it would be kind of a gimmick, but it actually works really well. Excellent ergonomics on it too.
I bought a DP51 when it first came out for the SW magazine compatibility and the triple action.
In the 90's you could have a Daewoo pistol to go with your Daewoo car.
And a line of Daewoo appliances for your home
Wow a p220 beretta 92 thing. I want it
Early LH9s also had a different more 1911 commander style hammer, no indicator paint whatsoever, and old style Daewoo dovetail sights with a blacked out rear. They had a transition period where they sold an LH9N model updating the slides to using Novak cuts, which became the standard pretty quickly and I'm not entirely sure if the guns were ever explicitly marked with the N in the model code on the gun or not. When they first launched, Lionheart was a great company to work with as a small FFL, it's a shame their products are entirely unaffordable for most folks nowadays.
Edit: I forgot there was also the original railed frame model, called the LH9 Mk II around the same time as the LH9N. Their catalog was a hot mess with LH9, LH9N, LH9C, LH9 MkII with all but the baseline LH9 available in black, patriot brown and sniper grey. At one point Lionheart discussed a similar strategy to IWI to bring in the K2 in some form with final manufacturing and assembly in Washington but that project fizzled and probably was abandoned when the company changed ownership (to the best of my knowledge)
I picked up a DP51 a couple of years ago. It is an interesting gun.
I'm getting Ghost in the Shell vibes. Reminds me of the Seburo M-5 and M-10.
The fictional Seburo M5 was a rotating barrel pistol in the Soviet 5.45×18mm cartridge. We know today that it's a wimpy cartridge roughly equivalent in performance to a .22 long rifle, but Shirow didn't know that at the time. Today he'd probably choose the FN 5.7x28 or the .22 TCM, both of which would do the job he envisioned for the Seburo better than the Soviet cartridge. That said, it does rather look like the M5 that Masamune Shirow conceived.
I have the LH9 MKII, and brought it to the 2018 desert brutality.
ngl lionheart might be the hardest name for a gun design firm
Wow Korea made all sorts of amazing stuff!!
I remember the Daewoo DP51 Compact back in the Early 90s (90-91)..had them in my hand but never was able to fire it..... Fantastic Video Ian!!
This video is funny cause the dp-51 was my parents bed side gun my whole life and the first gun i ever shot and i thought it was just something no one knew or cared about
Nice to see you finally talk about this pistol, Ian!
I would love to see you use your DP51 on the range, using its Double Action Plus system.
I miss my Daewoo DR200.
I remember shooting one of the triple-action pistols a long time ago. I thought it was kinda cool, but I've never had trouble with the double-to-single transition, so I memory-holed it until now. I'm pretty sure it was the original K5. I liked it but I didn't have the money for another pistol at the time.
오, K5 청소만 했는데 ㅋㅋㅋ
Para Ordnance came out with a very similar action on their LDA (Light Double Action). It seemed like a cool idea at the beginning of the 2000's, but I could never shoot it very well.
I love my DP51. I upgraded it with a bunch of lionheart parts when I messed up the slide...from my experience Lionheart has great customer service but their prices for new guns are too high for my budget.
I grabbed a Lionheart LH9 about 10 years ago when they were on clearance from somewhere I don’t remember. It was the standard sight model. Also had on with Novaks available. I believe it was sub-$400 at the time. Didn’t keep it. Wish I would have. It was a neat piece. They use S&W 59 series mags too.
Pricey but the Vulcan is pretty fucking cool.
I fuckin love the k5
SNT Motiv still makes the K-5 for the ROK Military and makes the DP51, DP51C, DP51 mk 2, and DP51C mk 2 for the export market.
For the last 5-6 years, SNT Motiv has also been developing a 9x19mm DA/SA revolver called the STRV9 and a 9x19mm striker fired polymer framed pistol called the STP9 (looks like a hybrid of a Glock 19 with the ambi-manual safety from the K5).
South Korean special operations have mostly replaced the K5 pistol with the H&K USP-9 Compact Tactical and Glock 19.
I really want one of those lionhearts
I work for the newest owners father-in-law. Gun feels nice in the hand. Also Mr. Ian, Winder is pronounced as whine-der.
I have the DH40 and it's my EDC. I didn't know they made a 9mm.
Love to see a member of the ROK get their hands on the Vulcan 9 and hear their thoughts.
It looks like the Korean designers asked the military whether they wanted a Sig Clone or a Beretta clone and the military said Yes
looks more like an 70s-90s era S&W than a Beretta.
The kiddos don't know that smith numbers guns @@colbunkmust
The first DP51 looks identical to the S&W 669, with a different finish. Ok, different safety. The 669 also fits the S&W 59 magazines.
"Lionheart Vulcan-9" is a seriously metal name.
Dr McCoy says..
"1600. Dollars?,
Are you out of your Vulcan mind?".
3:15
It gets some really good firearms from that style of design... But also the Mamba.
I got a dp51 recently with original mag and 4 s&w mags for 375 two months ago. Awesome gun, you can over insert the s&w mags tho, I need to 3D print a grip sleeve at some point to stop it.
The Ian McCollum Lionheart signature model. They should have you test and keep it.
New Video, yeah 😊
I have the DP51 and the DP51C. People freak when they see the "safe action" (the way it was sold to me) trigger.
Imagine you have a gunfight in a bar in Korea and someone plays _The Entertainer_ on the Daewoo Piano at the same time....
Why hasn't anyone taken up importing/ building the Daewoo rifles?
Because there is not much market for a modern service rifle that has proprietary parts, can't attach any accessories, and can barely attach optics.
@@ForgottenWeapons You say that...but look where the AK market has gone 😉
About a decade ago, SNT Motiv stopped development of the K-2 series with the K-2C1 being the last variant. Basically improved the K2 by giving it picantinny rails for optics/attachments and a M4 style shoulder stock.
After testing, the South Korean Military adopted the K-2C1 as the "modernized" replacement for the K-2.
The trials for the replacement for the K-1A resulted in a stop gap adoption of a modernization kit (picantinny rail system with M4 style shoulder stock, similar to the K-2C1) for standard issue use and the adoption of the SNT Motiv STC-16 (K-13) for South Korean special operations use.
The SNT Motiv STC-16 is "classified" (no one had been allowed to disassemble it and show it to the public), but its being described as the Korean version of a hybrid of the H&K HK416 and SIG MCX.
The South Korean Military is currently trying to budget the K-13 as the eventually replacement for all of the K-1A carbines and K-2 rifles in active military service.
Regulus rocks!
The DP51 is a damn good gun. Well made, shoots very good and the ergo's are great. And the tri action syatem is very cool.i ha e had offers well above it's worth for mine. Not selling.
Agree that ROK soldiers are generally of slighter build than their US counterparts, but quite honestly, the largest human being I ever saw in a military uniform was a ROK Marine in Pusan that had to have been at least 6'8" by my estimation, and that's probably conservative. This guy was HUGE.
now if they would make the Daewoo rifles.. K1, K2, K3 DR200.. gone but not forgotten.. lol took decades for mfg's to catch up to their mash-up of systems
i was hoping to see this gun here
When I was first getting into the hobby I had the LH9 on my To Buy list for the longest time. It never happened and now it’s hard to justify the price. They’re very neat, but I don’t know if I’ll ever have one.
I think I like the second generation the best. Good video.
Top view mate love the new one. Looks nice.
The "triple-action" sounds like H&K's LEM trigger, except you don't have to manually push the hammer forward (the H&K hammer is spring-loaded forward). To me, a perfect carry trigger -- no heavy double-action pull, but unlike a striker-fired gun there's a long, light pull before it fires -- a bit of an additional safety margin.
I like the H&K LEM fire control
Kind of a similar mechanism but the hammer lowers itself so you can either ride the reset like a single action or have a super light double action just by letting go the whole way
If you liked that trigger system, you should try H&K LEM trigger system, I have a couple of P2000, 9mm and 40S&W and the trigger is awesome
Dig that shirt Ian!
Great video!👍 Some years ago, I bought a Lionheart LH9 MKII (marked as your second example but has a light rail) from a pawn shop because I was interested in the Triple Action. Picked up some S&W 59 mags, had a holster made, and it’s a decent 9mm setup. Sorry to hear they are now overpriced. I like mine.🙂
Mom, can we have 5906?
“We have 5906 at home”
DP51- the 5906 at home
All hammer pistols should use this system. Unfortunately, few do. The same idea is implemented by H&K on the HK45 and it is bees knees.
H&K did it a bit better, the hammer goes down on its own once you release the trigger.
Love the Video! can you do a full run-down/review of your Tricked-out 1990s Delta Force 1911 from the 2-gun Match video. It would be greatly appreciated.
Daewoo doing front slide serrations in the late 90s just goes to show you how behind Glock is.
Dang it!! Why can I only hit the like button once???
Fricking early gang checking in.
Howdy
Beat me to it! 🤣
BRRRRAPP VRRROO Forgotten Weaponeers!
If you like the trigger system on these pistols and have Browning HP or 1911, then check out the SFS system from BH Spring Systems
If I'm being honest I like the DP51 and LH9C better than the other 2.
Weeb: "I bought a old military-service pistol!"
Range Officer: "Colt, Beretta? Sig? Browning?"
Weeb: "Nope, Daewoo."
Range Officer: "Like the car?"
Weeb: "Yup."
Range Officer: "Get off my range."
Funny how Daewoo firearms were able to outlive the reliability concerns considering their automobile industry. Who would want a Daewoo vehicle? Now cross that over to their firearms. Yikes! That said; they seems to be better. But $1600+ better? Uh, no.
TBH: that triple-action is pretty slick! I didn't understand at first when Ian said to "push the hammer forward" to enable the 3rd mode. Now I know. Still seems complicated though compared to most modern striker-fired military service pistols.
Daewoo was a mega conglomerate with about a dozen subsidiaries.
Daewoo Precision Industries was the subsidiary that made firearms and they received training & assistance from Colt during the 1970s.
As a whole, Daewoo had been making firearms longer than they had been making vehicles.
Daewoo Motors was the subsidiary that made cars and they initially were created with the help from Mitsubishi engineers, which is why the Daewoo cars first used engines made by Mitsubishi during the 1980s.
Daewoo Heavy Industries was the subsidiary that made heavy vehicles (construction vehicles and armored military vehicles). They were separate from Daewoo Motors and were initially set up by German engineers during the 1970s.
@@joenull5945 - glad to hear they were only related by name and not by manufacturing. Guess the Range officer will allow them back on his range! 👍
Nice
Ian FWIW, a really really really minor point - here in the UK, we’ve had Daewoo cars imported for *years*, and from early on the Korean pronunciation that was ‘recommended’ (ig?) is Day-ooh, making the ‘w’ silent. It’s not really important, the words are perfectly understandable however you say it, just thought you might like some suggestion, such as it is🤓🤓
I hate the way the new run looks. I like the light rail and optic cuts but it’s so agro.
I concur.
I get what the new owners of Lionheart were going for, but it unintentionally (and unfortunately) ended up looking quite atrocious. For me, the worst offenders are the features on the Regulus and Vulcan - the former with its cutout on the frame (is it trying to be a milled AK receiver?) and both with their usable but awkwardly-shaped slide serrations (what are those, parking building wall arrows?).
I prefer the LH9. Kitted up, but still simple and to the point.
A few things-
1-just another 9mm pistol
2-that's rifle money
3-the p365 exists with a ridiculous after market
If i recall, cz75 preB you could run the d/a from the halfcock notch, and on the tanfoglio clone thereof..you can also apply the thumb safety on half cock.
But admittedly the d/a wont be as light a pull as on this thing.
I’ve had 2 of the dp-51 and I love both of them bought them new in 1998 one is still new in the box the other has been carried since I bought It. They will shoot any ammo you want them to. Maybe 20 failures to feed it that whole time
Likewise, bought mine in the 90's, love it and it's on my _will not sell, ever_ list.
So they take a pistol that changed hands 3 times due to financial reasons then new owners are trying to sell them for nearly 2k.. "bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off"
Yes, Winder GA is pronounced with the hard 'I' as in 'wind up a watch'.
Having a bent for service-style firearms, I like the original, though that tri-action lockwork doesn't appeal.
Thank you Ian, I couldn’t find magazines for mine now I know what to look for.
Mecgar and another still make new S&W 59 series magazines, I've used them in mine more than factory magazines.
I was very interesed in the original lionheart when they started, i was looking at them to replace a sig p225, ive looked at them recently and had sticker shock
The gun equivalent of a grandma with ripped jeans and a Mohawk at a metal gig? 🤔 I like it 👍
Rooftop flashbacks ))
Can the new ones still use S&W 59 mags?
Very nice firecontrol system… have you ever done a dive i to the para ordinance LDA system?
Worth a look, if you arent familiar with the Long double action set up
those seem astonishingly cromulent.
Swanky indeed
Nice to see my service weapon's export versions. I got newer production s&t K5 and it has exactly same design as dp51 except changes in markings..
It's unfortunate that service weapons did't get those new features...
How would you rate the K5 and spinoffs reliability wise against the CZ75 and it's clone variations? Also which is easiest to repair?
They make cars that cost less than that last one😅. Final form was a very nice pistol. take it to the range