@Lawofimprobability the view is appopriate… for housewives and retirees. That’s why it’s on in the middle of the morning, right before lunch. The View isn’t that popular with working people in the US, but it is popular with housewives and retirees.
@@leonardticsay8046 no, you have been segregated and defined as being part of a group, so it must be your fault. Did you try to stop it? You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem, didn't you know?
@@andrewpease3688 what the hell are you even talking about? I was simply outlining the demographics that watched “the view”. Do i have to go further and say that i’m neither a housewife or a retiree? Jeez. I work for a living. In no way was I sticking up for the view. Learn how to read. Here’s something you might enjoy:“The View” does have it’s purpose. I used to bartend a lunch shift at a chinese restaurant in a shopping mall. I would put “the view” on one of our tvs, because i noticed that the show made my mostly working class male customers drink more. Some of them would tip me to change the channel. Nobody who matters here in the states likes “the view”.
If you force a comfash like Tony Blair or Owen Jones to watch 'The View' with their eyelids severed for 24 hours straight, it is not considered a war crime. It is what Stalin would call political re-education.
"The race was the nation." Finally! The two terms used to be used interchangeably. The frankly racist notion of lumping Englishmen and Frenchmen together and lumping Nigerians and Ugandans together is quite modern.
@@Waldemarvonanhalt Race and ethnicity are correct terms, frequently used incorrectly. I.e, Race: Europid and ethnicity; Polish and German. It is worth noting that terms of race and nationality, can also be used as demographic terms. Io, a Jew can be European, specifically Spanish or Italian however she is neither an Ethnic European nor an Ethnic Spaniard or Ethnic Italian.
@@Waldemarvonanhalt Yeah pretty much. "Race" and "Ethnicity" are interchangeable for the most part. However it is more accurate to say that "Race" as it is historically used referred to super groups instead of specific ethnicities ("Arabs" or "Turks" to refer to anyone from the Middle East, "Persian" to refer to any of the numerous different ethnicities found inbetween modern Iraq & modern India, "Negros" to refer to all dark-skinned Africans, "Germans" to refer to all potentially-German speaking peoples. The last one is especially interesting as the concept of "racial kinship" between Britons, the Dutch, and modern Germans was a big reason why Hitler had such a strong affinity for the UK).
The Goldberg take is truly a quintessentially American take. The American default assumption being that there are really only two races: White and Black, and gradients between the two, and maybe Asians and Natives if you press them. The concept that Germans could despise Slavs, or Hutus despise Tutsis, for racial reasons, seems to be foreign to a lot of Americans (and especially Black Americans).
I think part of it is a consequence of the ethnic blender that was the triangle trade. Imported Africans came from dozens of different tribes and nations, mostly from the Congo region but plenty from other parts of West Africa too. It's really very hard to for example trace ancestry back for most Black Americans; it really is a separate ethnicity. Because the literal history began with slavery and with the black/white simplicity already established, it's easy for that idea to become cultural normalized today.
@@Jaxck77 Since Hitler was racist against white Slavs and Jews, it means that it is possible to be racist against whites. If white people can be victims of racism, then organizations that discriminate against white people are in fact racist.
Bullshit. I’ve never talked to an American that assumes there are “only two races”, even leftist Americans, who are generally low I Q and believe many other absurd things don’t believe there are “only two races”.
Whoopi Goldberg (Karen Johnson) is an Ill informed person. I preferred her as Dolores van Cartier. These days as soon as she opens her mouth she reveals her stupidity.
idk but I think TIK has talent not every historian has, of explaining these complex intertwined cultural concepts and untangle those, with proper historical background and baggage. 50 minutes full of mental gymnastics must be like proper chess match.
Mostly agree but I also think delving into the slugfest of modern politics could be a bad idea. I like the occasional video but I don’t think anybody wants to see this become a reaction channel
In her stupidity "Caryn" told a fundamental truth. If Jews are White, than Hitler was not a racist. If Jews are non-White then lost of things that Hitler said make sense.
The Rwanda civil war between the Hutu and Tutsi was racial aswell. Tutsis saw (and see) themselves as being different from Hutus based on their origin (Tutsis were cattle herding settlers from Ethiopia/Horn of Africa...Hutu were indigenous Bantu farmers).
True about the civil war. And if one thinks the theory of great Bantu migration is plausible, the Bantu are not indigenous as well. They came from what is today Cameroon and spread throughout sub-Saharan Africa, wrapping up in Kenya at about 1000 - 1200 AD. Two non-indigenous groups. The indigenous people of central Africa are the Forest people (Mbuti, Aka, and Twa in that area), who used to be called Pygmies.
@@gagamba9198 Guys...Bantu were already well established in most of Sub Saharan Africa by the late bronze age. Tutsis settled in Rwanda in the 1530s-1600s. They're much more recent migrants to the region. (Only afew centuries prior to the scramble for Africa). Until the Belgians came, the Tutsis behaved like the 'colonialists'.
Unlike Jews and Germans, Hutus and Tutsis actually are different races. Tutsis, despite speaking a Bantu language, are more Horn African. Any overlap can be assigned to admixture.
I’m slowly catching up on your old videos. You’re one of the best history teachers I’ve ever had. It’s only been a year and a half since this happened? Feels like it happened three years ago. You’re right about the science. There are more generic differences between two people of the same “race” (regardless of how you define it) if they are three inches different in height than two random people from anywhere on the planet who are the same height.
I hadn't heard about this but oh my god. That's maybe the most ignorant thing I've heard since some people on twitter said the Empire of Japan was anti-imperialist because they fought against European colonization. Which was maybe a month ago. 😫
Oh wow, I hadn't heard that take on Japan! It actually fits well with the ideology I discussed in this video, though. Everything must be blamed on "white" (Jewish) people in order for our overlords to divide us and exploit us.
@@TheImperatorKnight I'm going to ask a short question? Why was this incredible group expelled from different places in the world throughout history? Could it be that they were so wronged?wow but if i question this i become the nazi scarecrow only a fool sees that this is all a conspiracy theory
@@TheImperatorKnight you watched the View to find out all the background set up. Good man! Well researched, I hope you didn't get cancer from it though 😬
Speaking as an American - This is an American-centric point of view. To most Americans, the very concept of race is tied to skin color. Likewise, our concept of things like slavery - which was practiced by a multitude of cultures all over the world for thousands of years - is tied to race. This is not to excuse what she said - it was quite ignorant.
You were doing reasonably well, right up to the "it was quite ignorant." In the context of 300+ million Americans (your stated point of view) the topic of racism comes down to skin color, not class or religious affiliation. That's the point she was trying to make, if imperfectly. The Holocaust was directed at a "class" of people affiliated by one characteristic: religion. In her eyes, it was not directed at a "race" of people, because they are not a race in her eyes or by definition. The alleged "fact" that it was motivated by "racism" relies on accepting the Nazi definition of race. They claimed to be different (and thus better) than Communism because their political agenda was race-based and not class-based. In their view, racism was not bad. Superior races were entitled to reign over inferior races. Except, the Jews don't fit that model, do they? No, the Jews are a "class" of people who adhere to Judaism. So, how does that fit into the Nazi narrative? How do they scapegoat the Jews? Simple, define their class as a race. Then, they can be fitted into the Nazi racial model as the lowest race and all of "man's inhumanity against man" can be justified. Racial purity and all that stuff, right? The "fact" being used to discredit Whoopi (as a member of the great socialist conspiracy to overthrow the ruling class with the minority class) only exists if you embrace Nazi dogma. Not one of TIKs finer analyses...
@@daveharrison4697 Agree, but they only fit into the Nazi ideology by virtue of being designated a "race" and an inferior one at that. The portion of the definition that applies best is "belonging to or deriving from the cultural, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country." These characteristics are not based on skin color, which is the predominant characteristic of racism, at least as experienced in America. In this analysis, TIK makes one of the mistakes that he is usually careful to avoid. At one point, he talks about the Socialist strategy to use personal experiences rather than facts based on the larger context to justify the "minority supplanting the ruling class" assessment. This is where his personal experience is biasing him. The American experience of racism is almost exclusively based upon skin color. That is not an "individual" experience. That is the collective experience and understanding of a third of a billion people. It is not a question of whether they all believe racism is an issue, because clearly many do not think it is (Fox News), but they do substantially agree that it is about skin color. Can you say the "black codes" and "Jim Crowe" laws? Can we see it in the Native American experience or the Japanese experience in WWII or the BLM movement in modern day? It is important to understand that antisemitism is an evil twin of racism, but it is not based on skin color. Thus, when Whoopi says that the Holocaust was not racism, she is coming from a perspective that includes far more than just her personal experience. TIK demands the highest standards of logic, fact checking, etc. When he contorts her commentary as being part of the socialist agenda to supplant the ruling class with the minority class, he is extending well beyond what the facts support. He is ignoring the context that includes 300+ million, not just one black talk show host. He is relying almost exclusively on his experience, the very thing he condemns Whoopi for, in framing the issue. TIK has spent many hours explaining to us that Nazism is a race-based form of socialism. He cites Hitler's Mein Kempf at length about the importance that Hitler placed on race. It was the single most important distinction between Communism and Nazism. "We would be no better than the Communists, if our theory were based on class..." or words to that effect. Hitler demands that National-Socialism is about race. Hence the need to brand Jews as a race, in order to fit his faulty narrative. Nazism is a right-wing, conservative, nationalistic, militaristic, autocratic, racist political ideology. The only "left-wing" component is its use of socialist (lower case "s") economic policies, because they empower government control of industry which empowered the state. It is time we stop talking about Nazism in terms that suggest left when they are indeed extreme right. It is time that we stop using "facts" established by Nazis as the means to attack people whose view of the Holocaust do not conform to our own personal experiences. Whoopi is guilty of not clearly articulating her views on a sensitive subject; one in which the Nazi narrative has long been the dominant theme. Let's face it, the "View" as a talk show is not exactly the format to deal with complex issues, especially when dealing with people who are poorly versed in a given topic. She tried, and failed, to explain herself in a way that gets past each person's individual biases.
@@ToolTimeTabor If you identify a group as a race separate from your own, and then you persecute that group based on that ideal, how is your persecution NOT racism?
@@daveharrison4697 Jews are not any ethnic group ant least not then. There were arab jews in french algeria black jews in ethiopia white jews in america and ethnicly difrent jews in eastern europe. Jews were quite isolationist religious group so are armich are they an ethnic group or they are too new or don't have funy physical feature that is stereotyped as unike.
It's interesting that the black Caryn Johnson adopted a 'Jewish' identity for her stage name. Was she hoping to have another victim card that she could play when needed?
A 'Jew' self-identifies by ethnicity, not by faith. For example: there are Slavs, Russians, Tartars who are 'white' but are ethnically identified into ethnic groups. Forget the word 'race'. Hitler believed in the 19th century and early 20th century social science of Eugenics, where two categories of the fit and unfit were a taxonomy of ethnic groups who "fit" undere one of the two categories.. Eugenics was scientifically based stratification of utilitarianism based on ethnic class, not social class. Hitler was a eugenicist, as was Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Clarence Darrow.
I bet neither you or TIK know the original definition, context, and usage of the word Racism. The definition he uses and most likely the one you use is the redefinition of the redefinition. It being redefined again means nothing, it was a meaningless word by 1900.
Thing is, though he phrased it abrasively, he's right. It was as best we know, invented by Trotsky to describe crimes of whites against non whites, intended to leverage that to force communist revolutions in white countries.
Yeah, not the first time I hear about "blaming all white people" for some atrocity. A certain historian I know claimed the trans-Atlantic slave trade was "defining of the white race"... because I guess the African tribes catching the slaves and selling them to the Portuguese were also white? It's an unfortunate side effect of much of the "critical" theories dividing and classifying by power while ignoring truth.
@Minister of Propaganda The British government currently abuses its own subjects. I know because I am one. It wasn't the British "white man" doing all that, it was Parliament and the elites.
@Minister of Propaganda No one is saying that the European Empires didn't abuse people on a massive scale. The problem we're discussing is this blanketing of all groups under one umbrella in order to justify arguing in favor of racism "for justice". For example, what global Empire did the Slavic people of Eastern Europe form? It's not that these people didn't perform their own atrocities, but you see certain people include them in a blanket label of "colonizers". Same thing for European migrants that moved to the US being included as "oppressors of brown people" even though some haven't even spent 2 generations in the US. To contrast, would it be fair to just blanket all black people under the actions of the Mali Empire? Or perhaps claim "being slaves is defining of X race"?
There's a group of people who think that history begins roughly around 1492 with the conclusion of the Reconquista and the discovery of the New World. Only events of importance thereafter are the trans-Atlantic slave trade (where almost all were shipped to Brazil), colonialism, the industrial revolution (that ruined the planet, ya know), slavery and the US Civil War, Jim Crow, and the World Wars. The British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Dutch, and Americans were the actors and everyone else was the acted upon.
@Minister of Propaganda What do you mean "implied"? He said people utilize the blanket term of European Empires to add to what I said about people using the TAST to claim an atrocity is "defining" of an entire race.
This was an excellent video that broke down the incident very effectively and thoroughly. As many others have said so shall I repeat: we'd love to see you tackle these kinds of situations tied to history that many get wrong o7
It also might be helpful to note that the school DID not censor the holocaust. They merely retired Maus from the reading list and replaced it with another because they thought Maus by Art Spiegelman was to graphic due to it having illustrations. The book Maus was however still available in the library, and they merely took it out of the REQUIRED reading list and replaced it with another about the same subject. Rather you agree with this choice or not, the point must be made that the hens at The View misreported the situation to make it seem worse then it was. Cause they want to hide the fact the people they like just throw out To Kill a Mockingbird.
TIK this is the political content a lot of us fans are desire especially how I think speak for a lot of us that we are on the precipice of a new political/economic crisis. I’m sure most of us would appreciate seeing more of your opinions on our current situation, and some advice on the next steps we should take.
That's partly why I wanted to do this video - the ideology that's trying to divide us needs to be exposed, and many have no idea that they've fallen into a trap
The fact that everything on the planet is so political now means a deeper knowledge of History is more vital than ever. As for Whoopsie; She is racist, she seems ALL white people as being the same. Period. How the hell did SHE become the poster child for "Ignorance is Strength", she wasn't always that way.... damnit.
I once posted on Reddit that I'm part Choctaw. Someone was very insistent the only way that was possible plus if a federal soldier raped a squaw. And somehow I'm the racist one.
@@samsonsoturian6013 what? are you saying people genuinely think the only way that theres white people with NA heritage and NA's with European heritage is because of Rape. Geez I wonder how they would react if it was about black and NA genes
I didn't know I needed to see a great historian analyzing the biggest trash program on American television. Now that I know, I need this to become a new series!
I think this was an exception... Actually, I hope it was an exception. I don't want them to say anything else that's stupid, but I know they will because it's baked into the cake
The most precise and "scientific" definition of race would, in my opinion, be something like genetic lineage as revealed through haplogroups. The problem with this is that, while it is in accordance with and confirming a lot of historiographical/linguistic/archeological theories, it only corresponds quite vaguely to modern concepts of race/nation/ethnicity. It is one of many useful tools for understanding human biology and history, and somewhat underutilized due to the current political climate, but it is little more than that.
The modern science of genetics, let alone the concept of haplogroups, did not exist in the time of Nazi Germany. At that time genetics was restricted to the study of visible physical traits and how they were thought to be inherited.
@@brucetucker4847 Indeed. What's funny is that their theories are undermined by their own research. My dad collects books, and especially likes weird and obscure stuff. He has a sort of "state of current knowledge" report published in the late thirties by the Swedish institute of racial biology, which was world leaders in the field and praised by Nazis and progressive eugenicists alike. The writers meticulously sort vast amounts of collected data in order to establish empirical racial borders, but the data bear none of it out. Charts upon charts detailing everything from nose widths to hair texture, and none of them correlate with each other in any way.
The concept of "race" being a question of melanin in the dermis is a fairly recent construct - since about the 18th Century. The concept of race always used to be a synonym for ethnicity or nationality. That's why passports in Tsarist Russia, for example, listed people by their sub-nationality within the Russian Empire; Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, and yes, Jewish was considered a unique "nationality" within the Empire.
@Lawofimprobability EXACTLY! As an American, whenever I hear the word "race" thrown about in local conversation, I tend to think in terms of skin color, specifically as it relates to persons of sub-Saharan ancestry and the word "Jewish" as a people practicing a certain religion. Neither one of these it accurate, but it's hard not to become a fish of the pond in which you swim.
@Lawofimprobability not just America, other colonies also had similar racial ideas to America. i think the skin-color-based race view developed in the colonies where various white nationalities felt the need to group together more (possibly to aid integration?)
@Lawofimprobability "pseudoscientific speculation of the European" Familiar with concept of genetic clusters? (somehow when algorithm is asked to subdivide humans in to distinctive genetic groups without no knowledge on our classification is still creating something eerie similar to traditionally understood races)
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 That depends on the language. The Definition of the German word "Rasse" means subspecies. "Menschliche Rasse" (Human race) would for example refer to Homo sapiens or Homo neanderthalensis. Thus the classification of modern Humans into "Rassen" (which is exactly that what the Nazis did) is seen as scientiffically wrong.
@@simonk.9530 "The Definition of the German word "Rasse" means subspecies." Then you go in to already murky subject, as while modern humans have comparing to other species relatively low genetic diversity, technically speaking multitude of subspecies for animals (ex. wolves) with even lower genetic differences were recognised. As our specie is well researched, then the difference seems to be political in nature. If you go in to linguistic, you are pushing yourself in to even more problems. In Polish "rasa" means as well breed of animal, even one step lower in taxonomic category and it would be tricky to say that we're so identical not to pass this distinction.
@UCPPwIrqtZ7N_eJvVPjzydHw are we still fake-quoting Whoopi or is this the beginning of what supposedly always happens to a group of people pretending to be idiots?
@@Clutter.monkey oh god, I remember that one. I could easily point out the ballpoint pen already existed, just the cheap mass produced version we think of didn't get invented until post war. So it's easy to refute that argument even without looking whether she used one or not. They often claim the diary was written after the war because ballpoint pens didn't exist yet, which is wrong either way as they did exist, so regardless they're wrong.
First off love your work. Secondly I talked about this on my own podcast, it's remarkable how there is a subset of Americans constantly telling other Americans to 'get out and see the world outside of the American bubble' then go ahead and apply an American viewpoint to a foreign issue. As a soldier who's been around the world 'race' for a majority of the world isn't "black and white". Hell if you look at documents of the Japanese they refer to Japanese as being a 'race', and each individual nationality as a race. All the Asian cultures do this. Europe is no different, hell my grandmother is Greek and laughs when people call Mediterranean's 'white'. Its all a very Americanized view. Now I understand what Whoopi is applying but it shows her lack of historical and cultural understanding. The Holocaust was not an American event, defining it with American terminology is just lazy and ideological. But I'm just a grunt what do I know? Cheers.
@Vext: Which part of America was Rhodesia in? I am pretty sure that wherever Europeans planted their colonies that they also imposed their racial hierarchy so most of the world is quite familar with the so called "American" black/white paradigm.
As a American I lived my life as a color blind person who treated everyone equal so it has come as a complete shock to me in the last few years to be attacked,vilified,and even beaten for being White and specifically a WHITE MALE!!!
Maybe if u didn’t literally enslave other races and nowadays target other races as a cop and commit police brutality then maybe u wouldn’t get beaten???? Trust white people to be dumb enough to not understand how that’s YOUR FAULT
I'm a white woman! Feel the same. I was born in British Columbia, Canada, had all kinds of friends, and we didn't care. It was the 70's and 80's everything was fun, or was I just young? Then in the 90's it all started getting... Weird!
@deborahfuller8203 . . . It all goes back to the Frankfurt School feom the 1920's. This has all been planned. The 80's was the last normal decade. But even then the subversion was all around us. Educate yourself on the history you were not taught and it will open your eyes and make it easier to see how we got here.
The idea that the Nazis back in the day were simply “white supremacists” ignores so many of their victims. The Nazis were German supremacists, and the white Slavic peoples of the East were to be their slaves.
@Celes Uhm yes. You are correct about the origin of the term Slav, but the English word slave was derived from the word Slav by way of medieval French and Latin. "Slav" had come to mean "slave" in western languages because so many of the slaves traded in the Mediterranean region (by Arabs, Berbers, Venetians, etc.) were of Slavic origin.
TIK History, I'm super excited to start reading "Vampire Economy" by Günter Reimann and "Depression, War, and Cold War" by Higgs as soon as possible. I ordered them off eBay, following your recommendation. Thanks so much for making these well documented videos on history! I've also come to find out that Economics and Politics play a central role in history, and to have a balanced view of the subject you need a good understanding of both.
Yea speaking bout vampire ecomany I actually just ordered it myself along with 2 others Communist manifesto & state and revolution by Marx n Lenin Trying to build my collection up so I can have something to read
@@spc2448 Good for you. Yeah I did order the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels but t it hasn't arrived yet. And my brother found "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand for 50¢ at a library book sale. If you go around to different libraries and ask around you might find some good deals on books, or local book fairs in the area.
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Fountainhead is a weird book, where it reads like an allegorical narrative but Rand seemingly intended for it to be taken at face value
You could read about the Fourth Crusade: a grubby tale of greed, opportunism, and religious prejudice. The result was centuries of Ottoman rule over the Balkans, and much else besides.
It's a run to be the biggest victim and so the biggest preacher and grand inquisitioner. Far left and far right are suddenly going through what the jews in the nazi camps or russian pogroms went through.
"...had always had my support" - yes, she even took a stage name that's stereotypically associated with that group, no jealousy in the story of how she decided to take the name at all. "my sincerest apologies" - _technically_ means "the apologies of the degree of sincerity I can come up with (which could be zero)", which would be honest, I guess ;)
I think it was in Norman Davies' book on Warsaw Uprising, where he cited German soldier's diary, describing Poles matching the description of pure nordic race better than Germans themselves did.
The creation of "Kulacks" in the Soviet Union would be a great example of this. After demonizing an starving millions of "Kulacks," Stalin was quoted as asking, "Who are Kulacks anyway."
Who are the Kulaks? A peasant with 1 cow too many. In other words, gentiles not Jews. So this idea that Socialism annihilates Jews is wrong in this case.
@@harrisonlincoln8343 excpet that socialism nearly always kills the Jews. They weren't as hit from he Holodomor since there were very little Jews in agriculture.
Well, by the time he asked that, the kulaks had ceased to exist (mostly because he starved them to death), so technically it was an accurate question at that point. "Dark humor is like food: not everyone gets it." - Josef Stalin, probably
@@brucetucker4847 "...by the time he asked that, the kulaks had ceased to exist..." Nope. You can never run out of kulaks because you can always define more into existence.
I’m a white male who grew up as an immigrant in the US. I consistently experience racism on a regular basis because of how I talk, and more recently because I am white. It’s extremely uncomfortable and soul destroying to be made to feel evil or wrong, with no ability to improve or change in anyway.
In the USA race is defined by skin color. Pushback against Whoppi came from the ADL who was applying Hitler's definition of race onto what Whoopi said. Race politics in the USA are complicated.
The idea that only "Aryans" can create nations comes (as far as I know) from Arthur de Gobineau's "essay on the inequality of races" (essai sur l'inégalité des races) from 1853. Not a read I can recommend but certainly an interesting one as it shows that not only the idea at the core of nazism comes from a French (although there were probably others reusing his ideas in between) but IIRC Gobineau even includes American civilisations like the Incas... Checking it it was dedicated to the king of Hanover, so it could be possible to trace the growth of that idea from there, probably passing through Guido List and then the volkish movement.
@@AUScorpion But Gobineau is not focused on antisemitism (he is clearly saying that the races of the world are inequal but he recognises many qualities to jews unlike the nazi system). Actually in his system the Jews are related to the "assyrians" and are one of his 10 civilisations started by the "white race". But you would recognise the key nazi idea of degenerscence through hybridation among other things. So it's an incomplete part of the puzzle.
You're by far one of my favorite history channels. May the fickle machinations of public opinion never fuck you over. Please never ever just stick to tanks.
Goldberg's just using the American idiom where "about race" means "about African slavery in the United States and its consequences" and nothing else. The idiom is provincial and shallow, but rather than blaming her, blame the skewed American usage of the word.
Indeed, it's one of those ironies that seeing all people of the same skin colour as the same "race" is basically racism 101 yet its propagated by both sides of the "culture war" in America. The idea of "Y'all" applying to all white people is exactly the same mindset that the plantation owners used, yet its thrown about in American culture all the time.
Glad to see you referencing James Lindsey. People REALLY need to look into his expose on Grievance Studies and how pseudoscientific a lot of universities departments have become due to political ideology.
I followed it as it occurred, but being curious I attempted to search the term in Duck Duck Go, and found that the entire front page, including Wikipedia, claims it was a hoax, and titled it the "Grievance Studies Affair". "The grievance studies affair, also referred to as the "Sokal Squared" scandal, was the project of a team of three authors-Peter Boghossian, James A. Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose-" Wiki search blurb.
Their claims of “white privilege” and “gender as a societal construct” are all Subjective ideological claims. Knowing they’re not Objective makes the redistribution of wealth based on race and gender that much worse.
She is right, just break it down. Jews had the same skin color as Germans, so that’s not why; Jews had different hair and eye colors, so that’s not why; the Nazis worked with groups who they considered to be admixed like the Finns, Hungarians, etc., so Middle eastern admixture is not why; Nazis even worked with non-whites like the Japanese and Arabs. The only conclusion we can make is that the physical, or racial features, of Jews had nothing to do with it. It was cultural and a specific ethnic grievance.
Calling French people a race doesn’t mean they are. If they used that word they used it in a specific context to describe an ethnicity. Big difference between the German race and the White race for example.
the main reason is Although Jews made up less than one percent of the total German population in 1933, they had power and influence in finance, business, cultural affairs, and scientific life far out of proportion to their small number. Jewish influence was widely considered to be detrimental to the German recovery after World War I and was largely represented in communist subversion. No legal action was taken against Jews in Germany until after the international Jewish "Declaration of War" against Germany as announced in the Daily Express of March 24, 1933. This "declaration" took the form of a worldwide boycott of German products.
At 23:00 when you say that the socialists wants to piggyback off of the racial conflicts, this is absolutely true. In the NKP's progam (norwegian communist party) they say: " we support all movements which claim victimhood under capitalism" socialism has taken a strange turn after having lost the economic argument.
It's an easy way to gain support from clueless people as well. BLM is a textbook example. BLM's organizers are openly Marxist and have said as much many times. But most people rooting for BLM either have no idea or just don't care. They're being used like good little pawns. It's also why they get so defensive when somebody counteracts with "All lives matter". The idea that everybody deserves happiness goes directly against their brand of Socialism.
@@MintyLime703 exactly right, and i would add that "everybody deserves happiness" goes against every socialists version of socialism ! There is allways one group or multiple who pays the price
I agree. The anti American globalists and their useful idiots promote racial conflict to divide Americans. "The Communist Takeover of America : 45 Goals " helps explain a lot of what the political left in America does.
Keep fighting the good fight Tik. I have always wanted and still want to be a historian. But seeing the CRT and Marxist shrills make me second guess my career path. What's the point when so much is being undermine by these leftists? But then I found your channel and it was like an oasis after days in a desert. And hearing you say that you were a socialist once before realizing that it was all a big lie resonates with me because I was a socialist too. My Grandfather who fought for Castro and then later the freedom fighters broke me out of it. But you helped stomped out the smoldering embers that were left over. Your commitment to historical truth and your unflinching resolve against these would be tyrants and revolutionaries inspires me to do the same and push back this corruption of academia. Thank you Tik, keep doing what you do and I can't wait for your next video.
"The Truth" is an ultimate goal, to claim that it has been achieved sounds like the beginning of delusion and ostracism: if you "know" The Truth, then all others are necessary wrong or lying. To search the truth is a process that is both necessary and continuing. To believe that there is the Good against the Bad is too simplistic. Consider a Russian soldier in WWII: is he the evil puppet of communism, or a patriot defending family, friends and neighbors against the evil Nazi aggression? Or both? How would you judge this same soldier during the invasion of Poland and the winter war against Finland? Consider a Finn soldier: is he a hero in 1939, defending his country against evil communism, or is he evil himself in 1941, allied to criminal Nazi Germany? In 1924 Mussolini had enough with the Mafia and led a war against the organization, using mass internment, family hostage taking and brutal violations of human rights in general. Were the Mafiosi good guys, or was Mussolini a hero? When the US army invaded Sicily, they did free Mussolini's opponents, which gave the Mafia its power back. Was the US an evil government intent on restoring crimes and human abuses? My father was an executive who abhorred communism. He had to deal with communist-led unions all year long. He still had fond memories of some union leaders, years after retiring. Fifty Shades of Grey, indeed.. That I believe in: ethic and freedom are about respect, as long as, and for as much as, respect is earned. Hate the sin, not the sinner. War is legalized crime, but there are extreme situations when other solutions are much worse.
Good. I have found the recent debate over 'race' disturbing and divisive. As a wee boy I was told that what made Josef Mengele a monster was that he experimented on people to try and 'prove' that Jews were a separate race. It seems that some people are now doing his job for him. Race, like class and local identity, is just another way to categorize and ultimately divide people.
That is a relatively small part of their ancestry, even though it forms the main basis for their culture. For the most part, the ancestors of modern Englishmen were Celtic Britons or even earlier Neolithic farmers living in what is now Briton before Indo-European languages arrived.
I'd define race as a collection of prevalent biological traits taken together (skin colour, hair colour, facial structure, etc.) to categorize people and certain derived ethnicities. But it's hard to call this an exact science like the nazis tried, because where do you draw the line between races? At what point does mongolian become chinese? Can you count the high prevalence of lactose-intolerence in Japanese as a racial trait seperating them from mainland Asians? It's a genetically inherited trait. And Jews, besides also being a culture and religion, run the gamut from the original levantine peoples, to white-skinned European Jews prominent in North America, and dark-skinned East African Jews who are frequently denied Israeli citizenship despite that being based on religious grounds. It's an idea we all agree on because just as how it's easier to call #804000 just brown, it's easier to just say someone is scandinavian without having to parse through genetic code. Seeing how people placed so much value on this concept is almost entertaining if it wasn't destructive.
To go one step further, DNA code cannot be a basis for race. Race has historically been based on some concept of group belongings in which the group are related by blood. Not even within immediate families do such traits of external appearance, based on genetic code, hold up. In my immediate family, I am the only one with blue eyes. And there other families out there with even starker differences. Such as albinos in Madagascar. Or fraternal twins of mixed "race" couples where one child looks typically "black" and the other typically "white". Since every sperm and every ova each carry a unique combination of the parent's DNA, siblings cannot be adequately categorized based on the historical concepts of race. And thanks to the existence of dominant genes, DNA code can skip multiple generations before manifesting. So sharing such external appearances within extended families become even more challenging. Human beings are just way to complex, too unique, and too unpredictable for there ever to be a scientific way of defining race.
Race is more than that, it is the defining of phylogenetic groups of humans based on physical characteristics. By phylogenetic groups I mean large populations who have unique common ancestors. Japanese people and Chinese people do not have unique common ancestors; neither do Jews and Germans, or Europeans and Africans, or even Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans. That is to say, there is no common ancestor of all sub-Saharan Africans who was not also an ancestor to Europeans, and vice versa.
"Man's inhumanity to man" was first expressed in a Latin proverb: Homo homini lupus est; i.e. a man is a wolf to another man. As always an EXCELLENT presentation. very well articulated and very well researched.
Whether race is biological or genetic is irrelevant. If people act on the belief that these separations exist, then it's relevant. There is good evidence that we are hard wired genetically to perceive difference as a threat and, on top of that, to aggregate those perceptions, it takes conscious effort not to do this and that's why the conceptions that come from that are so hard to eradicate.
That's true, but it's important to always remind everyone that the distinctions themselves are false. Once you start accepting them as true you inevitably end up going down a bad path. That is Whoopi Goldberg's real issue. If she were very consistent about man's inhumanity to man there really wouldn't be an issue. At the end of the day I don't really disagree with the statement. It's certainly true people have justified it on race, but the definitions shift over time and frankly shift from person to person. So it's real, but only in the way that all thoughts in your head are real, they are real thoughts in your real head.
Nope. If races do not exist biologically, then no one would be able to tell is Whoopie Black or White. You need something objective to classify people into groups.
@@aleksazunjic9672 No you don't. The reason we make these distinctions are to allow discrimation. We need to start recognizing these divisions for the fabrications of deceit and oppression they are.
@@TheImperatorKnight If we were talking about any other animal, we would be using the words species, sub-species and breed. That would probably end up sounding even more "racist" even if it were far more accurate.
At first I thought they were talking about the Holocaust's role in the US education system, because that was what the view segment was originally about. If you look at her comments through that lense she is right, the main focus of Holocaust education in schools should be on how people brutalize one another in general instead of simply explaining the racial motivations and leaving it at that. However I think Whoopi went on to say that she was actually referring to the Holocaust as an event, so it doesn't really matter.
Yes, because black people have only been "censored" by white people. Not National Socialists. Oh, and of course the "history" of those African countries.
@@od8401 She wants to achieve her goal and has never experienced "youtube censorship", so she can say that this kind of "youtube censorship" is the reason for "youtube censorship".----Translated by Google.
People will always find reasons to brutalize one another. It's better that people know what is wrong, instead of the vague and impossible guide line of "don't be evil" - because the brain will simply default to the egotistical "Well, I'm not evil", because contemplating the full weight of what that entails in every possible situation is insurmountable, and expecting anyone to be that wise is naive. One has to first be taught what good is.
She has 20 million different wars and events of extreme cruelty all around the world. Yet she expect you to define the biggest and most known one to be defined by race, as another "cruelty event". No.
So... according to Hitler, did the Kingdom of Israel (c.1000 BC - 722 BC) not count as a proper nation? Does he ever bother trying to reconcile the historical fact of empires founded by non-Aryan peoples with his theories? If so, how?
"Oh but the historical people actually WERE Aryans, and their downfall was caused by their bloodlines getting muddled!!" This is what I've heard. Circular logic at its finest.
Assuming the Israelites were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe? Also, if one researches enough they will inevitably come to the conclusion that 'ancient' or scaligerian history is fraudulent. As for the idea of miscegenation leading to the downfall of civilizations. I think there is evidence to suggest this, in India, Babylon, Egypt etc. Many of these Nations still have a caste system based appearance and skin colour.
@@harrisonlincoln8343 Askenazi and Separdic Jews both claim descent from the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, so I'm not sure that the distinction is helpful. A quick Google search of the word "scaligerian" shows that what you're describing may be reasonably described as a conspiracy theory. I don't have the time or the desire to debate it here, but let us say that it's not exactly a mainstream line of thought. Regarding miscegenation: it seems to me that it's something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. No empire lasts for ever. A growing empire will naturally accumulate subject peoples, and the larger an empire grows, the more prone it will be to balkanising in the wake of a civil war (as was the case with the Roman Empire and Russian Empire, though the Soviet Union was mostly successful at re-forging these balkanised states into a new whole). In short: a state which balkanises will naturally have had the opportunity for miscegenation, but it doesn't follow that miscegenation is the cause of that balkanisation.
@@stephenwood6663 I love how 30 seconds of searching and finding the words 'conspiracy theory' is all it takes for you to dismiss the idea entirely. Scaligerian historiography was approved by the catholic church, for the uninstructed multitude, like most other mainstream ideas. Of course they would call it a conspiracy theory to say otherwise. Astronomy disproves so much of it, it's difficult verify anything prior to the 20th century.
Also my OP, was sarcasm, Ashkenazi Jews have absolutely zero to do with the Levant. Not even linguistically, because until recently they spoke Yiddish. The Jews have as much to do with Palestine as did the British that they used to take the territory, just to use terror attacks against the British administration so that they could annihilate the Arabs without oversight. God's chosen people?
My professor at my university attempted to define Critical Race Theory in his first lesson. I was ignorant at to what it meant but now I see why he opened his course with defense, because he knew that he was lying and attempting to manipulate his student base. Doesn't surprise me that he promotes Marxism and criticized me for calling him out on normalizing radical behavior in his lessons.
I am suffering in my country because of socialist state that is controlling everything, but really does an American prof. teaches marxism in USA? In the richest and most succesful country? I mean, what is the problem of him? If socialist ideology is valid for someone, then USA should be the last place to live for him...
@@karaaslan7402 It is amazing, isn't it? But our universities are filled with socialists. Socialism is s very appealing ideology, only as you can testify to, it does not work. What is amazing is that nowhere else in America have prices increased so much as in academia where the professors constantly castigate America. They decry capitalists but insist on students paying high fees to finance their bloated salaries. They can influence young people because the metric they set up is to compare America to utopia. Of course, compared to perfection. America does not do well. Compared to other actual real countries it is a very different story which is why people from all over the world are voting with their feet to come to America.
@@dennisweidner288 At a substantial majority of universities most of the teaching is done by a class of "professors" who aren't paid much. (Which doesn't mean they aren't clueless Socialists.)
@@gandydancer9710 Gandy, You know I occasionally listen to C-Span which runs videos of university lectures, often on interesting topics. It is amazing the amount of PC, CRT, and woke drivel that they work into their lectures. And not a murmur of objection from the students. I sometimes e-mail them, but they are almost never willing to defend their lectures. I think that they have grown up in a Marxist ideological bubble and are just unaware that there are legitimate objections to how they spin the American story. Some of course are all too aware. Interestingly some of the worse are the professors in women's studies. They go on and on about how terrible it was for women in America. Now I do not mind this because it is substantially true, but what I do mind is that almost never do they point out that America was at the forefront of the fight for women's rights and the situation for women in America was better than in almost all other countries, and not just Islamic and Hindu societies. Also note how the movement to attack Western Civilization never touches on the fact that it is in the West that the movement for women's rights arose. One final matter. The universities go and on about inequities in America. Never mentioned is how expensive university education has become. Cost increases have outpaced virtually every other sector in American society. This, of course, creates hurdles for low-income students, forcing them to borrow huge sums. And because of admissions policies, accepting unprepared students, many do not graduate, leaving them with no degree, but with huge debts to pay off. This is basically a scam on unsuspecting low-income young people. And of course, never mentioned by the PC media
Tik I think that you have some of the best arguments when it comes to the racialization of Jewish history by Marx and Hitler, but as a Jew, I think your missing a part of Jewish history which clouds knowledge about Jews from outsiders which ultimately led to alot of Hitlers Jewish conspiracies. The gap is the divide between the Eastern and Western European Jewish communities that ultimately created their different political beliefs. Your history of Western European jews and their history of being part of the bourgeoisie is mostly correct. For the most part, Catholic countries kept Jews from obtaining land and forced them into a narrow range of professions which resulted in them becoming part of that wider class of townsfolk which would lead to alot of them to become bougiosie. In Eastern Europe though, this was much less true, and it resulted in a very different political community. European states such as Poland Lithuania did allow their Jews to settle farms and communities and this would eventually result in a rural population comprising what was traditionally called the Pale of Settlement. Eventually this area became almost entirely dominated by the Russian Empire after the Partition of Poland. Because the Russian Empire had successfully prevented Jews from settling in traditional Russia, the Jewish Pale of Settlement was the first large Jewish population the Russians had to deal with, and they took the opposite approach. They restricted Jewish communities to the fringes of their Empire, particularly in the areas where they already resided, and the Jewish community developed in a very similar way to the average European peasant. By the 19th century, it was this region of Russia which would be seeing the same type of industrialization that the rest of Europe was seeing and the Jewish people were driven towards the cities mostly due to the promise of economic prosperity. This Jewish population would become more of a traditional Labor class, and they would go on to form the first major Labor Union in the Russian Empire, the Jewish Labor Bund. The Bund would eventually contribute to the formation of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, that party would split into Menshiviks and Bolshiviks, and the rest is history. It is therefore true that while in the West Jews were driven into a sort of capitalist bougiosie role, the Eastern jews were driven into a socialist proletariat role, and it was these two communities which likely drove Hitler and alot of anti-semites to determine that there was a wider Jewish conspiracy. The problem was and still is that there wasn't an acknowledgement of the two Jewish communities being somewhat separate. While it's true that there was still connection between the Jewish communities, it is also true that most Jewish scholars also believe that nearly all Eastern European Jews actually originated from an small group of Jews who first arrived in Poland in the late middle ages, meaning that there were in fact two Jewish communities which developed in two different political directions instead of one. I think that futher researching the Jewish Labor Bund and the Pale of Settlement would help further your knowledge of Jewish history and better understand how Hitler developed this conspiracy of both Jewish capitalism and Jewish bolshism simultaneously.
@David McCarroll kind of, but also not really. Most of Western Europe went through an expulsion of the Jews phase in the 15th century which culminated in the Alhambra decree in Spain (which mainly effected Sephardics). This meant that much of the Jewish community remaining in Western Europe became refugees and they congregated in the few places which would still have them (which were mostly small German principalities in the HRE and in the low countries which would form the Netherlands). These Jewish communities became heavily mixed between Sephardics and Azkhanazi, so while they officially maintained Azkhanazi institutions, these were too small to effectively control such a concentrated population. A big part of the rise of capitalism was actually these communities wanting to engage in industries which offered some degree of asset security. The Sephardics had been much wealthier living in Spain than their new refugee status, so they took up trade as a way to sustain their communities and allow them to keep their wealth liquid in case of further expulsions. This trade would be heavily encouraged by the rulers of their new lands, in particular the leaders of the Netherlands who were organizing a revolt against the Spanish Hapsburgs and were happy to take financial contributions from a population who hated the Spanish as much as they did. After the success of this trade became large enough to finance a large standing army for the Dutch, the other Western European leaders began to relax their restrictions on Jews in the hope that they would migrate back and include their territories in the new global trade network. This was kinda the moment the communities diverged. In the west, the divide which separated Jews from other Europeans was breaking down due to protestantism, and many began agitating for the dismantling of the Jewish community and the "Jewish Emancipation" in which they would be considered citizens of the country they lived in first. At the same time, Poland began recruiting Jewish families in the HRE to travel to Poland and settle the recently conquered territories of the east, a move which they beleived would bring the region wealth (and to be fair it kinda did). So the more hardliners who did not want to have anything to do with the new Jewish communities left for the east, leaving a much more moderate community in Western Europe. They would eventually build institutions in Eastern Europe which would become the center of the Azkhanazi world, in places which had not contained a single jew a few centuries earlier. Western European jews would continue down the path of the reform movement, and their communities became less prominent as many would trade wealth for status. Jewish Emancipation was a core tennent of the french revolution, and all the revolutionary leaders from Robspierre to Napoleon took steps to enforce it like tearing down the Ghettos, and so by the end of the Revolution, all Jewish communities west of the rhine were integrated into the framework of the nations they inhabited. They're less well known today because those communities made active efforts to assimilate, but they would establish some famous upscale neighborhoods in cities like New York, London, and Paris.
Thank you for your comments. You sound like you really know what you're talking about. So I ask you. In trying to figure out the roots of European antisemitism. It began to look as if it was by design from the start. Jews were brought in by the crowns. Given jobs that would lead to animosities with the existing population. Forced to take wives from the natives. It was all to create a divided population that could be played off against each other. So there couldn't be a united revolt by the populace against the crowns. Since all the royals of Europe are related. It was their conspiracy. And it was practiced all over Europe. Am I off base? Or do you think there is something to this. Is this something that is already considered. And maybe it's cryptomnesia on my part that I came to this conclusion.
Weird how you mix up references to colonialism and the holocaust to make your argument. You can also make your point without tthe need for absolutism. Same goes for your anti socialism rants. I know capitalists that are more socialist than socialists. A little bit less black and white thinking would help getting your message out there
Very well put together video as always TIK! Although one thing I really dislike about your position is that you seem to think that anyone who believes in one aspect of socialism believes in them all. While their support of socialism may inherently support antisemitism if you look at it from the most top-down perspective, I think that it is very possible to agree with some aspects of socialism while abhorring others. In these instances, should they simply not call themselves socialists and should we not label them as such? Or would you still call them socialists and continue to lump them in with the antisemites and extremists? I feel that sometimes your arguments apply very broad strokes on society, as most people do not believe in every aspect of something the purport to believe in. In my eyes, this muddies a few of your arguments in a way that seems insincere.
"Although one thing I really dislike about your position is that you seem to think that anyone who believes in one aspect of socialism believes in them all." No, I don't. Socialism is the umbrella term that I'm using to cast a net over the entire movement, since socialism itself is at the heart of all the various factions. I understand that there's minor differences between the factions, but ultimately I can't sit there listing every faction every time I want to talk about them. - "While their support of socialism may inherently support antisemitism if you look at it from the most top-down perspective, I think that it is very possible to agree with some aspects of socialism while abhorring others." Right, but the reason people are socialist is because they think the (Jewish) "free market" doesn't work. But that assumption itself is born out of anti-Semitism. So to be a socialist is to accept that anti-Semitic arguments are correct. If you agree that the (Jewish) "free market" is bad, then you have no counter when a National Socialist argues this. Why are you any different to a Nazi? They were saying the same thing! - "Or would you still call them socialists and continue to lump them in with the antisemites and extremists?" No no, they are one and the same. Whether individual socialists realize it or not, anti-Semitism is fundamental to the idea of Socialism, because their dislike of the "capitalist free market" is the same thing as anti-Semitism, due to the fact that the Jews were (historically) so closely tied to the bourgeoisie, capitalism and the free market.
@@TheImperatorKnight thanks for the in depth reply, I definitely see what you mean and I agree on the whole. One thing that I am still curious about is what you would call people who agree with only a few aspects of socialism such as partially socialized healthcare? It seems disingenuous to label them as socialists when there is clearly a lot of baggage to go along with that term that would often not apply to these people.
There exists a multitude of definitions of what socialism is, and TIK narrow-mindedly only recognizes a fringe interpretation of what socialism is, an interpretation only used by certain rightwing people and never used by self-identifying socialists. As excellent TIK is in debunking critical race theory, as garbage is he in explaining socialism.
34:27 TIK i dont get your position, you claim there are no races by using a national geographics article ? When you talk about economics you use warying sources and you are sceptical about the mainstream, but about race you just accept the mainstream opinion ?
@@hermitoldguy6312 Correct. I don't know if the mainstream science is correct or not in this case, and I'm no scientist. But I do think an individual is hindered more by their culture and their false beliefs than by IQ or skin colour. I'm not saying that those things are not a factor, just less of a factor compared to thinking that "money is bad" etc.
@@TheImperatorKnight well i somewhat understand you but if you yourself claim you are no expert on this topic you dont have to push to your audience that race isnt real and that everyone who doenst believe in this is a national socialist. You can talk about how nazism and how racial discrimination is bad without denying race .
Race is a social construct used to categorize people based on genetic traits. So is the categorization scientific? Well, not entirely. But when most people say "race is a social construct with no scientific basis" that would be inaccurate. Different phenototypes developed different genetic traits based on evolution, dark skin has more melanin to protect from UV radiation, people with dark skin originate from near the equator... If I were a White South African then obviously I wouldn't fit the "social construct" of the phenotype that is classified as a "race" pertaining to a certain region of the globe, but claiming that "this proves race isn't real" is rather disingenuous. Race is no different than dog breeds, if a Chihuahua pup were adopted into a litter of Great Danes does that make it a Great Dane? All domestic dogs are the same species and display vast differences in appearance and traits, not unlike humans. This is why your argument is silly. Is race a social construct? Yes. Is it just a convenient grouping of humans based on genetic traits that are easily observable? Yes. Can those traits be measured? Yes... Are those traits in your DNA... But... Race... Isn't real... Sorry bud, but trying to sound progressive and not offend by denying well established science just makes you sounds stupid.
Possibly the Khazar Khaganate (Khazaria), which was reported by Muslims such as Ibn Rusta to have converted to Judaism in the 9th century. The pastoralist Turks of Central Asia pretty much gave every religion a crack. The three Abrahamic religions, Buddhism, Manichaeism, Zoroastrianism, and Hinduism as well as their own animist beliefs.
@@TheImperatorKnight if i had to speculate it would be the fact that the Existence of the Iron age jewish kingdoms was incredibly hotly debated in the early 20th century before the founding of israel and many considerd them mythical or allegorical so he probably subscribed to that as well
Kingdom of Israel may of never existed at all since that region was ruled by Assyrian Empire, Canaanite, Babylonian Empire, Roman Empire, multiple Kingdoms of Egypt, Persian Empire, Hittites and Greece. More of a crossroads between empires with no recorded evidence of a State during that time period from 1500 BC - till a brief period between Greece withdraw and Roman takeover..
>Surname is Goldberg >Says she's Jewish >Says the Shoah wasn't about race. The mental gymnastics is unreal. Also, she doesn't seem to be able to separate Judaism the religion from being ethnically Jewish. Language, culture, race, religion, shared history, all of that good stuff.
Honestly the entire debate of whether the Holocaust was about race is pretty much utterly redundant because it not matter to the victims why they were killed. It made no difference to the children of Lidice that they were sent to the gas chambers at Chelmno for being Czechs as opposed to being Jews or Gypsies. It made no difference to the citizens of Oradour-sur-Glane that they were burned alive in their own church and their tight-knit community that had existed for nearly a millennia was destroyed for being French as opposed to be Jews. It made no difference to the men of Putten that they were sent to slave labor camps to perish in squalid conditions for being Dutch as opposed to being Jews. It made no difference to Settela Steinbach that she was put on a train to Auschwitz to be gassed for being a Gypsy as opposed to being a Jew It made no difference to Czesława Kwoka that she was put on a train to Auschwitz to be starved and beaten to death for being a Pole as opposed to being a Jew It made no difference to the 5-6 million Jews who were shot, starved, or gassed that they were murdered for being of the wrong faith/slightly different genetic group as opposed to being the wrong skin color *What matters is that the Nazis considered these people to be inferior human beings whose lives were worth less than theirs and could be brutalized, enslaved, and murdered for the sake of expediency, pleasure, or fulfilling insane ideological fantasy*
Forget? These low IQ savages never had any idea to begin with- how dare they try to interpret our western civilization/ history. The ultimate in cultural appropriation.
I'm glad you enjoyed last week's video, because it was one of the worst performing videos in ages. People complain that I should "stick to tanks", then don't watch the military stuff Stahel's book is good. Have you seen some of his lectures on UA-cam? If you've read the book then he only goes over the same stuff in less detail
That’s a bummer. I liked how you brought up the Indian troops in the British Army. I know of them from my undergrad thesis on Singapore. The 11th Indian Division I believe I was in Malaya. Issue with equipment and experience. If I remember correctly, Alan Warren’s “Britain Greatest Defeat,” mentioned that many of the experienced NCOs of the Indian units in the Far East were picked and sent to the Middle East and maybe Africa(read book 10 plus years ago.) The Indian soldiers dealt a fair bit of damage to the Japanese at Kota Bharu, but had a lot working against them. I saw his lectures first before buying the book. He did a great job at analyzing the Wehrmacht and Army Group Centre. I’ll be on the lookout for his other work.
I'm a Jew beause my mother was Jewish, I believe in one god, and I have chosen to follow that way of life. There is a familial component to the identity . . . but it's far from establishing a 'race'
I have no idea what the 'appropriate' term is to define them, but in healthcare in some situations it can be very relevant to know what group of people a person belongs to. Depending on ancestry/genetics members of some groups will react differently to various medications, will have vastly different risk factors and will have different values for whats considered a healthy range for test results. Though l do find it strange that most medical admission forms don't ask what your natural hair colour is as redheads do react differently especially to pain killers and so many people dye their hair these days. The simple fact is that their are many distinct biological differences between various groups, most of which are not externally visible and can have positive or negative effects.
To my recollection, the UN defines ethnic cleansing according to language. In other words, a violent black man is not considered nationalist, if he speaks English in England. According to that definition, the USSR was guilty of ethnic cleansing also inside its own borders.
If you look at the definition of racism, it also includes ethnicity. From persecution to mass murder to include genocide based on either race or ethnicity, it is about race.
Wrong. Although leftist tend to call anyone they disagree a "racist" , original idea was to smear those believing that all biological races are not equal.
Its been abit glossed over but I'd argue she said something that was actually worse. The quote about it being OK because its "white people v white people" is one of the worst things someone has ever said. It literally says that the holocaust was OK just because of who it was done to. Spoiler alert, the holocaust is wrong. How it was justified is irrelevant next to the fact that millions of people were murdered to satisfy prejudice. Who or why it happened are details but its wrong no matter who it is done to, done by or how it is justified.
"There's no such thing as race, and hardly such thing as ethnicity." - P.J. O'Rourke I'm glad to be included among good company (Tik, O'Rourke, me) on the basis of something substantive: Common understanding independently arrived at by distinctly different individuals. Critical thinking which values truth is a good thing to have in common. I'm ok with that as a group identity. ("verbal" jab😉)
I don't think that Whoopie's comments were out of line with a modern interpretation of race and whiteness from modern SJWs more or less being that the only race differences that matter is black and white. I don't think she meant anything ill by it towards it or denail of the Holoccaut. Just a hyper focus on that black and white perspective. Still igorance.
The cause of this ignorant comment was the very American view that race = skin color A view that completely ignores the European point of view that race = ethnicity That is not a surprise since America was built on assimilating all kinds of enthicities into one American identity , erasing ethnic divides this way
The comic book Maus wasn't banned. One middle school in Tennessee said that it wasn't appropriate for the curriculum of 8th graders. That's it. No banning, no book burning, nothing was removed from libraries, just one book wouldn't be taught as part of the official school board approved course work.
Just found you through your fantastic Socialist Hitler and Eric Hunt videos. You have my total respect, for what it's worth from an internet stranger lol, and I'm glad this asinine website's ridiculous algorithm let me find your channel. Please keep making videos and I hope and pray for the best for you and yours sincerely. Thank you for your approach, study and earnest bearing on all these difficult and gruesome subjects yet having consideration and fascination with real history unfiltered by political or social bias. tl;dr You rock dude thanks!
You know... the worst part about this controversy (that's NOT the stupid things said on The View) is the fact that Maus is still available in the school's library, but it's off the REQUIRED reading list/"Books to specifically teach" list because of the nudity and depiction of suicide... for the 8th grade class. The 8th graders can (and probably will) check it out and read it, especially hearing about how controversial it is.
As an American I'd like to apologize for the existence of The View...
Thanks for talking about this TIK.
Are you a producer on the view?
I’m an American too. I don’t apologize for existence of The View. I had nothing to do with it’s production.
@@Hilton_ he's just apologising on behalf of his race 🙃
@Lawofimprobability the view is appopriate… for housewives and retirees. That’s why it’s on in the middle of the morning, right before lunch. The View isn’t that popular with working people in the US, but it is popular with housewives and retirees.
@@leonardticsay8046 no, you have been segregated and defined as being part of a group, so it must be your fault. Did you try to stop it?
You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem, didn't you know?
@@andrewpease3688 what the hell are you even talking about? I was simply outlining the demographics that watched “the view”. Do i have to go further and say that i’m neither a housewife or a retiree?
Jeez. I work for a living.
In no way was I sticking up for the view. Learn how to read.
Here’s something you might enjoy:“The View” does have it’s purpose. I used to bartend a lunch shift at a chinese restaurant in a shopping mall.
I would put “the view” on one of our tvs, because i noticed that the show made my mostly working class male customers drink more. Some of them would tip me to change the channel.
Nobody who matters here in the states likes “the view”.
I thought making someone watch 'The View' was banned as inhumane by the Geneva Convention?
It was. They are just good at ignoring history.
Definitely a War Crime
It should be lol
If you force a comfash like Tony Blair or Owen Jones to watch 'The View' with their eyelids severed for 24 hours straight, it is not considered a war crime. It is what Stalin would call political re-education.
I hear the Chinese make Uyghurs watch it in the gulag.
"The race was the nation." Finally! The two terms used to be used interchangeably. The frankly racist notion of lumping Englishmen and Frenchmen together and lumping Nigerians and Ugandans together is quite modern.
Race was essentially a catch-all term from antiquity that would today be ethnicity.
800 races in Africa.
@@Waldemarvonanhalt Race and ethnicity are correct terms, frequently used incorrectly.
I.e, Race: Europid and ethnicity; Polish and German. It is worth noting that terms of race and nationality, can also be used as demographic terms.
Io, a Jew can be European, specifically Spanish or Italian however she is neither an Ethnic European nor an Ethnic Spaniard or Ethnic Italian.
The guy is german the Anglo saxon are german
@@Waldemarvonanhalt Yeah pretty much. "Race" and "Ethnicity" are interchangeable for the most part. However it is more accurate to say that "Race" as it is historically used referred to super groups instead of specific ethnicities ("Arabs" or "Turks" to refer to anyone from the Middle East, "Persian" to refer to any of the numerous different ethnicities found inbetween modern Iraq & modern India, "Negros" to refer to all dark-skinned Africans, "Germans" to refer to all potentially-German speaking peoples. The last one is especially interesting as the concept of "racial kinship" between Britons, the Dutch, and modern Germans was a big reason why Hitler had such a strong affinity for the UK).
The Goldberg take is truly a quintessentially American take. The American default assumption being that there are really only two races: White and Black, and gradients between the two, and maybe Asians and Natives if you press them. The concept that Germans could despise Slavs, or Hutus despise Tutsis, for racial reasons, seems to be foreign to a lot of Americans (and especially Black Americans).
I think part of it is a consequence of the ethnic blender that was the triangle trade. Imported Africans came from dozens of different tribes and nations, mostly from the Congo region but plenty from other parts of West Africa too. It's really very hard to for example trace ancestry back for most Black Americans; it really is a separate ethnicity. Because the literal history began with slavery and with the black/white simplicity already established, it's easy for that idea to become cultural normalized today.
Definitely
@@Jaxck77 Since Hitler was racist against white Slavs and Jews, it means that it is possible to be racist against whites. If white people can be victims of racism, then organizations that discriminate against white people are in fact racist.
Bullshit. I’ve never talked to an American that assumes there are “only two races”, even leftist Americans, who are generally low I Q and believe many other absurd things don’t believe there are “only two races”.
It is also bad because it falls into view that Jews are a racial group and not a cultural group
Imagine saying “Disability is only about what I can see.” Untenable.
100% right! I am deaf and no one can see it! So they don't believe me.
Whoopi Goldberg (Karen Johnson) is an Ill informed person. I preferred her as Dolores van Cartier. These days as soon as she opens her mouth she reveals her stupidity.
@@TURQUOISEEYESI am autistic. The same, only seeing me in the street you couldn't see that
@@Bolitadewienautistics aren’t considered disabled, they are afforded; under the disabilities act, to be a protected class.
@@pinchebruha405If they are afforded anything under the disabilities act, then they certainly fall under the disability umbrella!
You should make more of these TIK, it is a good way to get people into history.
idk but I think TIK has talent not every historian has, of explaining these complex intertwined cultural concepts and untangle those, with proper historical background and baggage. 50 minutes full of mental gymnastics must be like proper chess match.
I agree you opened my eyes to new truths.
I'm glad you're still alive (after going silent). Have the trolls stopped or actually reached their goal of stopping you?
is that vexxed what thought you were in north korea or something
Mostly agree but I also think delving into the slugfest of modern politics could be a bad idea. I like the occasional video but I don’t think anybody wants to see this become a reaction channel
Well, all hostess of that show have inteligence, attitude and knowledge of average pre-kindergarden child, so no suprise there. Good job Karen...
Whoopi's real name is Caryn, so...
@@TheImperatorKnight exactly
In her stupidity "Caryn" told a fundamental truth. If Jews are White, than Hitler was not a racist. If Jews are non-White then lost of things that Hitler said make sense.
That's an insult to the intelligence of the average pre-K student.
@@jesupcolt Agreed, truly mind bending stupidity takes an adult mind to create.
The Rwanda civil war between the Hutu and Tutsi was racial aswell. Tutsis saw (and see) themselves as being different from Hutus based on their origin (Tutsis were cattle herding settlers from Ethiopia/Horn of Africa...Hutu were indigenous Bantu farmers).
The Bantu arent indigenous they are from around Nigeria
True about the civil war. And if one thinks the theory of great Bantu migration is plausible, the Bantu are not indigenous as well. They came from what is today Cameroon and spread throughout sub-Saharan Africa, wrapping up in Kenya at about 1000 - 1200 AD. Two non-indigenous groups. The indigenous people of central Africa are the Forest people (Mbuti, Aka, and Twa in that area), who used to be called Pygmies.
@@gagamba9198 Guys...Bantu were already well established in most of Sub Saharan Africa by the late bronze age.
Tutsis settled in Rwanda in the 1530s-1600s. They're much more recent migrants to the region. (Only afew centuries prior to the scramble for Africa). Until the Belgians came, the Tutsis behaved like the 'colonialists'.
Unlike Jews and Germans, Hutus and Tutsis actually are different races. Tutsis, despite speaking a Bantu language, are more Horn African. Any overlap can be assigned to admixture.
@@silence6605 jews and Germans are probably as different as Hutus and Tutsis
Fantastic episode TIK, as always. Love your channel. Keep up the excellent work.
I’m slowly catching up on your old videos. You’re one of the best history teachers I’ve ever had.
It’s only been a year and a half since this happened? Feels like it happened three years ago. You’re right about the science. There are more generic differences between two people of the same “race” (regardless of how you define it) if they are three inches different in height than two random people from anywhere on the planet who are the same height.
I hadn't heard about this but oh my god. That's maybe the most ignorant thing I've heard since some people on twitter said the Empire of Japan was anti-imperialist because they fought against European colonization. Which was maybe a month ago. 😫
Oh wow, I hadn't heard that take on Japan! It actually fits well with the ideology I discussed in this video, though. Everything must be blamed on "white" (Jewish) people in order for our overlords to divide us and exploit us.
@@TheImperatorKnight I'm going to ask a short question? Why was this incredible group expelled from different places in the world throughout history? Could it be that they were so wronged?wow but if i question this i become the nazi scarecrow only a fool sees that this is all a conspiracy theory
EMPIRE of japan
@@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 TWATS of twitter
@@TheImperatorKnight you watched the View to find out all the background set up. Good man! Well researched, I hope you didn't get cancer from it though 😬
Speaking as an American - This is an American-centric point of view. To most Americans, the very concept of race is tied to skin color. Likewise, our concept of things like slavery - which was practiced by a multitude of cultures all over the world for thousands of years - is tied to race.
This is not to excuse what she said - it was quite ignorant.
You were doing reasonably well, right up to the "it was quite ignorant."
In the context of 300+ million Americans (your stated point of view) the topic of racism comes down to skin color, not class or religious affiliation. That's the point she was trying to make, if imperfectly. The Holocaust was directed at a "class" of people affiliated by one characteristic: religion. In her eyes, it was not directed at a "race" of people, because they are not a race in her eyes or by definition.
The alleged "fact" that it was motivated by "racism" relies on accepting the Nazi definition of race. They claimed to be different (and thus better) than Communism because their political agenda was race-based and not class-based. In their view, racism was not bad. Superior races were entitled to reign over inferior races. Except, the Jews don't fit that model, do they?
No, the Jews are a "class" of people who adhere to Judaism. So, how does that fit into the Nazi narrative? How do they scapegoat the Jews? Simple, define their class as a race. Then, they can be fitted into the Nazi racial model as the lowest race and all of "man's inhumanity against man" can be justified. Racial purity and all that stuff, right?
The "fact" being used to discredit Whoopi (as a member of the great socialist conspiracy to overthrow the ruling class with the minority class) only exists if you embrace Nazi dogma.
Not one of TIKs finer analyses...
@@ToolTimeTabor Jews ARE an ethnic group as well as the followers of a religion, same as Sikhs.
@@daveharrison4697 Agree, but they only fit into the Nazi ideology by virtue of being designated a "race" and an inferior one at that.
The portion of the definition that applies best is "belonging to or deriving from the cultural, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country." These characteristics are not based on skin color, which is the predominant characteristic of racism, at least as experienced in America.
In this analysis, TIK makes one of the mistakes that he is usually careful to avoid. At one point, he talks about the Socialist strategy to use personal experiences rather than facts based on the larger context to justify the "minority supplanting the ruling class" assessment. This is where his personal experience is biasing him. The American experience of racism is almost exclusively based upon skin color. That is not an "individual" experience. That is the collective experience and understanding of a third of a billion people. It is not a question of whether they all believe racism is an issue, because clearly many do not think it is (Fox News), but they do substantially agree that it is about skin color. Can you say the "black codes" and "Jim Crowe" laws? Can we see it in the Native American experience or the Japanese experience in WWII or the BLM movement in modern day?
It is important to understand that antisemitism is an evil twin of racism, but it is not based on skin color. Thus, when Whoopi says that the Holocaust was not racism, she is coming from a perspective that includes far more than just her personal experience.
TIK demands the highest standards of logic, fact checking, etc. When he contorts her commentary as being part of the socialist agenda to supplant the ruling class with the minority class, he is extending well beyond what the facts support. He is ignoring the context that includes 300+ million, not just one black talk show host. He is relying almost exclusively on his experience, the very thing he condemns Whoopi for, in framing the issue.
TIK has spent many hours explaining to us that Nazism is a race-based form of socialism. He cites Hitler's Mein Kempf at length about the importance that Hitler placed on race. It was the single most important distinction between Communism and Nazism. "We would be no better than the Communists, if our theory were based on class..." or words to that effect. Hitler demands that National-Socialism is about race. Hence the need to brand Jews as a race, in order to fit his faulty narrative.
Nazism is a right-wing, conservative, nationalistic, militaristic, autocratic, racist political ideology. The only "left-wing" component is its use of socialist (lower case "s") economic policies, because they empower government control of industry which empowered the state. It is time we stop talking about Nazism in terms that suggest left when they are indeed extreme right.
It is time that we stop using "facts" established by Nazis as the means to attack people whose view of the Holocaust do not conform to our own personal experiences. Whoopi is guilty of not clearly articulating her views on a sensitive subject; one in which the Nazi narrative has long been the dominant theme. Let's face it, the "View" as a talk show is not exactly the format to deal with complex issues, especially when dealing with people who are poorly versed in a given topic. She tried, and failed, to explain herself in a way that gets past each person's individual biases.
@@ToolTimeTabor If you identify a group as a race separate from your own, and then you persecute that group based on that ideal, how is your persecution NOT racism?
@@daveharrison4697 Jews are not any ethnic group ant least not then. There were arab jews in french algeria black jews in ethiopia white jews in america and ethnicly difrent jews in eastern europe. Jews were quite isolationist religious group so are armich are they an ethnic group or they are too new or don't have funy physical feature that is stereotyped as unike.
It's interesting that the black Caryn Johnson adopted a 'Jewish' identity for her stage name. Was she hoping to have another victim card that she could play when needed?
A 'Jew' self-identifies by ethnicity, not by faith. For example:
there are Slavs, Russians, Tartars who are 'white' but are
ethnically identified into ethnic groups.
Forget the word 'race'. Hitler believed in the 19th century and early 20th
century social science of Eugenics, where two categories of the
fit and unfit were a taxonomy of ethnic groups who "fit" undere
one of the two categories.. Eugenics was scientifically based
stratification of utilitarianism based on ethnic class, not
social class. Hitler was a eugenicist, as was Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Clarence Darrow.
I am glad you recognize the dangers of redefining racism and are criticizing it.
I bet neither you or TIK know the original definition, context, and usage of the word Racism.
The definition he uses and most likely the one you use is the redefinition of the redefinition.
It being redefined again means nothing, it was a meaningless word by 1900.
@@alexlaw1892 Are you implying that racism got eradicated in 1900?
@@alexlaw1892 what's the definition of racism then? Come and enlight us with your wisdom.
@Bogda Nov Like the Aryan blood?
Thing is, though he phrased it abrasively, he's right. It was as best we know, invented by Trotsky to describe crimes of whites against non whites, intended to leverage that to force communist revolutions in white countries.
Yeah, not the first time I hear about "blaming all white people" for some atrocity. A certain historian I know claimed the trans-Atlantic slave trade was "defining of the white race"... because I guess the African tribes catching the slaves and selling them to the Portuguese were also white?
It's an unfortunate side effect of much of the "critical" theories dividing and classifying by power while ignoring truth.
Oof. Each time "European imperialism" comes up counts as well.
@Minister of Propaganda The British government currently abuses its own subjects. I know because I am one. It wasn't the British "white man" doing all that, it was Parliament and the elites.
@Minister of Propaganda No one is saying that the European Empires didn't abuse people on a massive scale.
The problem we're discussing is this blanketing of all groups under one umbrella in order to justify arguing in favor of racism "for justice".
For example, what global Empire did the Slavic people of Eastern Europe form? It's not that these people didn't perform their own atrocities, but you see certain people include them in a blanket label of "colonizers".
Same thing for European migrants that moved to the US being included as "oppressors of brown people" even though some haven't even spent 2 generations in the US.
To contrast, would it be fair to just blanket all black people under the actions of the Mali Empire? Or perhaps claim "being slaves is defining of X race"?
There's a group of people who think that history begins roughly around 1492 with the conclusion of the Reconquista and the discovery of the New World. Only events of importance thereafter are the trans-Atlantic slave trade (where almost all were shipped to Brazil), colonialism, the industrial revolution (that ruined the planet, ya know), slavery and the US Civil War, Jim Crow, and the World Wars. The British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Dutch, and Americans were the actors and everyone else was the acted upon.
@Minister of Propaganda What do you mean "implied"? He said people utilize the blanket term of European Empires to add to what I said about people using the TAST to claim an atrocity is "defining" of an entire race.
"They're all talking over each other and then, there's more noise" sounds like a great way to sum up the entire show;)
Clucking like hens
@@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 Well, I wouldn't allow myself to say that, but yeah...
@@remifasolla2863 screw em. Idc if I'm offensive
@@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 😉
This was an excellent video that broke down the incident very effectively and thoroughly. As many others have said so shall I repeat: we'd love to see you tackle these kinds of situations tied to history that many get wrong o7
It also might be helpful to note that the school DID not censor the holocaust. They merely retired Maus from the reading list and replaced it with another because they thought Maus by Art Spiegelman was to graphic due to it having illustrations. The book Maus was however still available in the library, and they merely took it out of the REQUIRED reading list and replaced it with another about the same subject. Rather you agree with this choice or not, the point must be made that the hens at The View misreported the situation to make it seem worse then it was. Cause they want to hide the fact the people they like just throw out To Kill a Mockingbird.
TIK this is the political content a lot of us fans are desire especially how I think speak for a lot of us that we are on the precipice of a new political/economic crisis. I’m sure most of us would appreciate seeing more of your opinions on our current situation, and some advice on the next steps we should take.
That's partly why I wanted to do this video - the ideology that's trying to divide us needs to be exposed, and many have no idea that they've fallen into a trap
The fact that everything on the planet is so political now means a deeper knowledge of History is more vital than ever.
As for Whoopsie; She is racist, she seems ALL white people as being the same.
Period.
How the hell did SHE become the poster child for "Ignorance is Strength", she wasn't always that way.... damnit.
@Minister of Propaganda Zionism is one of the better ideologies wdym?
@Minister of Propaganda simply authoritarianism
a black woman with a Jewish surname?hunn strange
I hereby apologise that I was part of holocaust. I was sadly not born yet, so I couldb't do anything
That is no excuse. You bigot.
I once posted on Reddit that I'm part Choctaw. Someone was very insistent the only way that was possible plus if a federal soldier raped a squaw. And somehow I'm the racist one.
@@samsonsoturian6013??? 🤔🤔🤔
@@samsonsoturian6013 OK Elisabeth warren!
@@samsonsoturian6013 what? are you saying people genuinely think the only way that theres white people with NA heritage and NA's with European heritage is because of Rape. Geez I wonder how they would react if it was about black and NA genes
I didn't know I needed to see a great historian analyzing the biggest trash program on American television. Now that I know, I need this to become a new series!
I think this was an exception... Actually, I hope it was an exception. I don't want them to say anything else that's stupid, but I know they will because it's baked into the cake
@@TheImperatorKnight The only way to find out is to postpone the Stalingrad series and start re watching ~20 years of footage.
A characteristically thorough and thoughtful analysis. Much enjoyed!
The most precise and "scientific" definition of race would, in my opinion, be something like genetic lineage as revealed through haplogroups. The problem with this is that, while it is in accordance with and confirming a lot of historiographical/linguistic/archeological theories, it only corresponds quite vaguely to modern concepts of race/nation/ethnicity. It is one of many useful tools for understanding human biology and history, and somewhat underutilized due to the current political climate, but it is little more than that.
The modern science of genetics, let alone the concept of haplogroups, did not exist in the time of Nazi Germany. At that time genetics was restricted to the study of visible physical traits and how they were thought to be inherited.
@@brucetucker4847 Indeed. What's funny is that their theories are undermined by their own research.
My dad collects books, and especially likes weird and obscure stuff. He has a sort of "state of current knowledge" report published in the late thirties by the Swedish institute of racial biology, which was world leaders in the field and praised by Nazis and progressive eugenicists alike. The writers meticulously sort vast amounts of collected data in order to establish empirical racial borders, but the data bear none of it out. Charts upon charts detailing everything from nose widths to hair texture, and none of them correlate with each other in any way.
The concept of "race" being a question of melanin in the dermis is a fairly recent construct - since about the 18th Century. The concept of race always used to be a synonym for ethnicity or nationality. That's why passports in Tsarist Russia, for example, listed people by their sub-nationality within the Russian Empire; Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, and yes, Jewish was considered a unique "nationality" within the Empire.
@Lawofimprobability EXACTLY! As an American, whenever I hear the word "race" thrown about in local conversation, I tend to think in terms of skin color, specifically as it relates to persons of sub-Saharan ancestry and the word "Jewish" as a people practicing a certain religion. Neither one of these it accurate, but it's hard not to become a fish of the pond in which you swim.
@Lawofimprobability not just America, other colonies also had similar racial ideas to America. i think the skin-color-based race view developed in the colonies where various white nationalities felt the need to group together more (possibly to aid integration?)
@Lawofimprobability "pseudoscientific speculation of the European" Familiar with concept of genetic clusters? (somehow when algorithm is asked to subdivide humans in to distinctive genetic groups without no knowledge on our classification is still creating something eerie similar to traditionally understood races)
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 That depends on the language.
The Definition of the German word "Rasse" means subspecies.
"Menschliche Rasse" (Human race) would for example refer to Homo sapiens or Homo neanderthalensis.
Thus the classification of modern Humans into "Rassen" (which is exactly that what the Nazis did) is seen as scientiffically wrong.
@@simonk.9530 "The Definition of the German word "Rasse" means subspecies." Then you go in to already murky subject, as while modern humans have comparing to other species relatively low genetic diversity, technically speaking multitude of subspecies for animals (ex. wolves) with even lower genetic differences were recognised. As our specie is well researched, then the difference seems to be political in nature.
If you go in to linguistic, you are pushing yourself in to even more problems. In Polish "rasa" means as well breed of animal, even one step lower in taxonomic category and it would be tricky to say that we're so identical not to pass this distinction.
And this is why I love watching your videos you’re not basing this on your emotions you’re basing this on the facts that are presented with
"If they were exterminating people, why would there be a swimming pool? It just doesn't make sense."
-Whoopi Goldberg, the View
"Door was made out of wood, it just couldn't be used for mass murder. "
What a horrible bigot. Whoopi probably believes that Anne Frank didn‘t invent ball point pens either. Disgusting.
@UCPPwIrqtZ7N_eJvVPjzydHw are we still fake-quoting Whoopi or is this the beginning of what supposedly always happens to a group of people pretending to be idiots?
@@Clutter.monkey oh god, I remember that one. I could easily point out the ballpoint pen already existed, just the cheap mass produced version we think of didn't get invented until post war. So it's easy to refute that argument even without looking whether she used one or not.
They often claim the diary was written after the war because ballpoint pens didn't exist yet, which is wrong either way as they did exist, so regardless they're wrong.
@@nicobruin8618 I dunno, but his comment vanished. I didn't read it, I think he didn't notice you were being sarcastic.
First off love your work. Secondly I talked about this on my own podcast, it's remarkable how there is a subset of Americans constantly telling other Americans to 'get out and see the world outside of the American bubble' then go ahead and apply an American viewpoint to a foreign issue.
As a soldier who's been around the world 'race' for a majority of the world isn't "black and white". Hell if you look at documents of the Japanese they refer to Japanese as being a 'race', and each individual nationality as a race. All the Asian cultures do this.
Europe is no different, hell my grandmother is Greek and laughs when people call Mediterranean's 'white'. Its all a very Americanized view.
Now I understand what Whoopi is applying but it shows her lack of historical and cultural understanding. The Holocaust was not an American event, defining it with American terminology is just lazy and ideological.
But I'm just a grunt what do I know? Cheers.
@Vext: Which part of America was Rhodesia in? I am pretty sure that wherever Europeans planted their colonies that they also imposed their racial hierarchy so most of the world is quite familar with the so called "American" black/white paradigm.
As a American I lived my life as a color blind person who treated everyone equal so it has come as a complete shock to me in the last few years to be attacked,vilified,and even beaten for being White and specifically a WHITE MALE!!!
You evidently still need waking up.
Maybe if u didn’t literally enslave other races and nowadays target other races as a cop and commit police brutality then maybe u wouldn’t get beaten???? Trust white people to be dumb enough to not understand how that’s YOUR FAULT
Did those that did those things to you "cry out in pain as they struck you"? Just trying to help.
I'm a white woman! Feel the same. I was born in British Columbia, Canada, had all kinds of friends, and we didn't care. It was the 70's and 80's everything was fun, or was I just young? Then in the 90's it all started getting... Weird!
@deborahfuller8203 . . . It all goes back to the Frankfurt School feom the 1920's. This has all been planned. The 80's was the last normal decade. But even then the subversion was all around us. Educate yourself on the history you were not taught and it will open your eyes and make it easier to see how we got here.
"Slavs also have white skin by the way." It is sad that TIK actually has to state this. Our current political and social situation hurts my brain.
Ikr, I have a theory that slave resulted from the word slav. But it just a theory.
The idea that the Nazis back in the day were simply “white supremacists” ignores so many of their victims. The Nazis were German supremacists, and the white Slavic peoples of the East were to be their slaves.
@Celes Yeah did more research. This is a bonified stupid me
@Celes Uhm yes. You are correct about the origin of the term Slav, but the English word slave was derived from the word Slav by way of medieval French and Latin. "Slav" had come to mean "slave" in western languages because so many of the slaves traded in the Mediterranean region (by Arabs, Berbers, Venetians, etc.) were of Slavic origin.
@C no, they have something in common, because slave is coming from ethnonym slav.
TIK History, I'm super excited to start reading "Vampire Economy" by Günter Reimann and "Depression, War, and Cold War" by Higgs as soon as possible. I ordered them off eBay, following your recommendation. Thanks so much for making these well documented videos on history!
I've also come to find out that Economics and Politics play a central role in history, and to have a balanced view of the subject you need a good understanding of both.
Yea speaking bout vampire ecomany I actually just ordered it myself along with 2 others
Communist manifesto & state and revolution by Marx n Lenin
Trying to build my collection up so I can have something to read
@@spc2448 Good for you. Yeah I did order the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels but t it hasn't arrived yet.
And my brother found "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand for 50¢ at a library book sale. If you go around to different libraries and ask around you might find some good deals on books, or local book fairs in the area.
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Fountainhead is a weird book, where it reads like an allegorical narrative but Rand seemingly intended for it to be taken at face value
You could read about the Fourth Crusade: a grubby tale of greed, opportunism, and religious prejudice. The result was centuries of Ottoman rule over the Balkans, and much else besides.
Read: Stalin's War. Convincing arguments are made.
"Where people are comparing [youtube censorship] to what Anne Frank went through". I laughed so hard at this!
I didn't laugh, it's actually quite sad to hear it.
It's a run to be the biggest victim and so the biggest preacher and grand inquisitioner.
Far left and far right are suddenly going through what the jews in the nazi camps or russian pogroms went through.
What a world we now live in smh.
@@dusk6159 makes me think of that time some SJW tried to brand themselves as "SJeWs" because yea...
NcuriousmediatoR Free speech is the crown jewel of American democracy and why we have developed a tolerant society.
"...had always had my support" - yes, she even took a stage name that's stereotypically associated with that group, no jealousy in the story of how she decided to take the name at all.
"my sincerest apologies" - _technically_ means "the apologies of the degree of sincerity I can come up with (which could be zero)", which would be honest, I guess ;)
I think it was in Norman Davies' book on Warsaw Uprising, where he cited German soldier's diary, describing Poles matching the description of pure nordic race better than Germans themselves did.
The creation of "Kulacks" in the Soviet Union would be a great example of this. After demonizing an starving millions of "Kulacks," Stalin was quoted as asking, "Who are Kulacks anyway."
Who are the Kulaks? A peasant with 1 cow too many. In other words, gentiles not Jews. So this idea that Socialism annihilates Jews is wrong in this case.
@@harrisonlincoln8343 excpet that socialism nearly always kills the Jews. They weren't as hit from he Holodomor since there were very little Jews in agriculture.
Well, by the time he asked that, the kulaks had ceased to exist (mostly because he starved them to death), so technically it was an accurate question at that point.
"Dark humor is like food: not everyone gets it." - Josef Stalin, probably
@@brucetucker4847 "...by the time he asked that, the kulaks had ceased to exist..."
Nope. You can never run out of kulaks because you can always define more into existence.
@@brucetucker4847 that’s true he was stating his genocide
I’m a white male who grew up as an immigrant in the US. I consistently experience racism on a regular basis because of how I talk, and more recently because I am white. It’s extremely uncomfortable and soul destroying to be made to feel evil or wrong, with no ability to improve or change in anyway.
thats how they want you to feel
Life sucks and then you die. Read philosophy in the meantime, dipshit.
Wtf is your dumb ass talking about?
@@alexlaw1892 Non-whites can't be racist since they can't benefit from it, roight? Or at least that's what they meme all the time.
@@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin Some needs do not die, because they are already dead. At least mentally...
The changing of history so they can do it again.
Can you do a video on the strategies used by Russia in WW3 5 years from now?
In the USA race is defined by skin color. Pushback against Whoppi came from the ADL who was applying Hitler's definition of race onto what Whoopi said. Race politics in the USA are complicated.
The idea that only "Aryans" can create nations comes (as far as I know) from Arthur de Gobineau's "essay on the inequality of races" (essai sur l'inégalité des races) from 1853.
Not a read I can recommend but certainly an interesting one as it shows that not only the idea at the core of nazism comes from a French (although there were probably others reusing his ideas in between) but IIRC Gobineau even includes American civilisations like the Incas...
Checking it it was dedicated to the king of Hanover, so it could be possible to trace the growth of that idea from there, probably passing through Guido List and then the volkish movement.
It's always the F'ing French isn't it? :P
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But Gobineau is not focused on antisemitism (he is clearly saying that the races of the world are inequal but he recognises many qualities to jews unlike the nazi system). Actually in his system the Jews are related to the "assyrians" and are one of his 10 civilisations started by the "white race". But you would recognise the key nazi idea of degenerscence through hybridation among other things. So it's an incomplete part of the puzzle.
You're by far one of my favorite history channels. May the fickle machinations of public opinion never fuck you over. Please never ever just stick to tanks.
... or Whoopie even. : ))))
Go to odysee and use crpyto if it happens ;)
Goldberg's just using the American idiom where "about race" means "about African slavery in the United States and its consequences" and nothing else. The idiom is provincial and shallow, but rather than blaming her, blame the skewed American usage of the word.
Yes. From the rendition presented in this video she's not half as bad as her co-panelists.
Indeed, it's one of those ironies that seeing all people of the same skin colour as the same "race" is basically racism 101 yet its propagated by both sides of the "culture war" in America.
The idea of "Y'all" applying to all white people is exactly the same mindset that the plantation owners used, yet its thrown about in American culture all the time.
I think blaming her is a convenient short cut. Tactics are important.
I like how they always talk about the six millions Jews that died. But never talk about the 28 million Russians that died….
If Hitler had just stayed an author of fantasy pulp fiction instead of diving into politics.
Glad to see you referencing James Lindsey. People REALLY need to look into his expose on Grievance Studies and how pseudoscientific a lot of universities departments have become due to political ideology.
I followed it as it occurred, but being curious I attempted to search the term in Duck Duck Go, and found that the entire front page, including Wikipedia, claims it was a hoax, and titled it the "Grievance Studies Affair".
"The grievance studies affair, also referred to as the "Sokal Squared" scandal, was the project of a team of three authors-Peter Boghossian, James A. Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose-" Wiki search blurb.
Their claims of “white privilege” and “gender as a societal construct” are all Subjective ideological claims.
Knowing they’re not Objective makes the redistribution of wealth based on race and gender that much worse.
She is right, just break it down. Jews had the same skin color as Germans, so that’s not why; Jews had different hair and eye colors, so that’s not why; the Nazis worked with groups who they considered to be admixed like the Finns, Hungarians, etc., so Middle eastern admixture is not why; Nazis even worked with non-whites like the Japanese and Arabs. The only conclusion we can make is that the physical, or racial features, of Jews had nothing to do with it. It was cultural and a specific ethnic grievance.
Calling French people a race doesn’t mean they are. If they used that word they used it in a specific context to describe an ethnicity. Big difference between the German race and the White race for example.
the main reason is Although Jews made up less than one percent of the total German population in 1933, they had power and influence in finance, business, cultural affairs, and scientific life far out of proportion to their small number. Jewish influence was widely considered to be detrimental to the German recovery after World War I and was largely represented in communist subversion. No legal action was taken against Jews in Germany until after the international Jewish "Declaration of War" against Germany as announced in the Daily Express of March 24, 1933. This "declaration" took the form of a worldwide boycott of German products.
@@GuilhermeGui-vv1om a boycott so worldwide and so thorough that nobody noticed it. That requires some extraordinary diabolical ablilities!
At 23:00 when you say that the socialists wants to piggyback off of the racial conflicts, this is absolutely true. In the NKP's progam (norwegian communist party) they say:
" we support all movements which claim victimhood under capitalism"
socialism has taken a strange turn after having lost the economic argument.
It's an easy way to gain support from clueless people as well. BLM is a textbook example. BLM's organizers are openly Marxist and have said as much many times. But most people rooting for BLM either have no idea or just don't care. They're being used like good little pawns. It's also why they get so defensive when somebody counteracts with "All lives matter". The idea that everybody deserves happiness goes directly against their brand of Socialism.
@@MintyLime703 exactly right, and i would add that "everybody deserves happiness" goes against every socialists version of socialism ! There is allways one group or multiple who pays the price
I agree. The anti American globalists and their useful idiots promote racial conflict to divide Americans. "The Communist Takeover of America : 45 Goals " helps explain a lot of what the political left in America does.
@@janesmith4017 thank you, i will look into it! Scary times we all live in.
Keep fighting the good fight Tik. I have always wanted and still want to be a historian. But seeing the CRT and Marxist shrills make me second guess my career path. What's the point when so much is being undermine by these leftists? But then I found your channel and it was like an oasis after days in a desert. And hearing you say that you were a socialist once before realizing that it was all a big lie resonates with me because I was a socialist too. My Grandfather who fought for Castro and then later the freedom fighters broke me out of it. But you helped stomped out the smoldering embers that were left over. Your commitment to historical truth and your unflinching resolve against these would be tyrants and revolutionaries inspires me to do the same and push back this corruption of academia. Thank you Tik, keep doing what you do and I can't wait for your next video.
"The Truth" is an ultimate goal, to claim that it has been achieved sounds like the beginning of delusion and ostracism: if you "know" The Truth, then all others are necessary wrong or lying. To search the truth is a process that is both necessary and continuing. To believe that there is the Good against the Bad is too simplistic.
Consider a Russian soldier in WWII: is he the evil puppet of communism, or a patriot defending family, friends and neighbors against the evil Nazi aggression? Or both? How would you judge this same soldier during the invasion of Poland and the winter war against Finland?
Consider a Finn soldier: is he a hero in 1939, defending his country against evil communism, or is he evil himself in 1941, allied to criminal Nazi Germany?
In 1924 Mussolini had enough with the Mafia and led a war against the organization, using mass internment, family hostage taking and brutal violations of human rights in general. Were the Mafiosi good guys, or was Mussolini a hero? When the US army invaded Sicily, they did free Mussolini's opponents, which gave the Mafia its power back. Was the US an evil government intent on restoring crimes and human abuses?
My father was an executive who abhorred communism. He had to deal with communist-led unions all year long. He still had fond memories of some union leaders, years after retiring.
Fifty Shades of Grey, indeed..
That I believe in: ethic and freedom are about respect, as long as, and for as much as, respect is earned. Hate the sin, not the sinner. War is legalized crime, but there are extreme situations when other solutions are much worse.
Good. I have found the recent debate over 'race' disturbing and divisive. As a wee boy I was told that what made Josef Mengele a monster was that he experimented on people to try and 'prove' that Jews were a separate race. It seems that some people are now doing his job for him. Race, like class and local identity, is just another way to categorize and ultimately divide people.
Anglo-Saxons of course are very German(ic) as they were 2 Germanic tribes which migrated to Britain.
That is a relatively small part of their ancestry, even though it forms the main basis for their culture. For the most part, the ancestors of modern Englishmen were Celtic Britons or even earlier Neolithic farmers living in what is now Briton before Indo-European languages arrived.
You know its a good one when youtube puts a disclaimer under the video
I don't mind, but I think it's a bit redundant in this case.
I'd define race as a collection of prevalent biological traits taken together (skin colour, hair colour, facial structure, etc.) to categorize people and certain derived ethnicities. But it's hard to call this an exact science like the nazis tried, because where do you draw the line between races? At what point does mongolian become chinese? Can you count the high prevalence of lactose-intolerence in Japanese as a racial trait seperating them from mainland Asians? It's a genetically inherited trait. And Jews, besides also being a culture and religion, run the gamut from the original levantine peoples, to white-skinned European Jews prominent in North America, and dark-skinned East African Jews who are frequently denied Israeli citizenship despite that being based on religious grounds. It's an idea we all agree on because just as how it's easier to call #804000 just brown, it's easier to just say someone is scandinavian without having to parse through genetic code. Seeing how people placed so much value on this concept is almost entertaining if it wasn't destructive.
To go one step further, DNA code cannot be a basis for race. Race has historically been based on some concept of group belongings in which the group are related by blood. Not even within immediate families do such traits of external appearance, based on genetic code, hold up. In my immediate family, I am the only one with blue eyes. And there other families out there with even starker differences. Such as albinos in Madagascar. Or fraternal twins of mixed "race" couples where one child looks typically "black" and the other typically "white". Since every sperm and every ova each carry a unique combination of the parent's DNA, siblings cannot be adequately categorized based on the historical concepts of race. And thanks to the existence of dominant genes, DNA code can skip multiple generations before manifesting. So sharing such external appearances within extended families become even more challenging. Human beings are just way to complex, too unique, and too unpredictable for there ever to be a scientific way of defining race.
Race is more than that, it is the defining of phylogenetic groups of humans based on physical characteristics. By phylogenetic groups I mean large populations who have unique common ancestors. Japanese people and Chinese people do not have unique common ancestors; neither do Jews and Germans, or Europeans and Africans, or even Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans. That is to say, there is no common ancestor of all sub-Saharan Africans who was not also an ancestor to Europeans, and vice versa.
Basically what shes saying is that we all look the same to her...
See it is difficult for people in todays modern world to understand because race these days is ALL about skin colour and nothing else. Lol! Smh.
You are perhaps one of the few persons that understood this situation. Thank you for sharing.👍
"Man's inhumanity to man" was first expressed in a Latin proverb: Homo homini lupus est; i.e. a man is a wolf to another man. As always an EXCELLENT presentation. very well articulated and very well researched.
EXCEPT Whoopi did ZERO Research!
Whether race is biological or genetic is irrelevant. If people act on the belief that these separations exist, then it's relevant. There is good evidence that we are hard wired genetically to perceive difference as a threat and, on top of that, to aggregate those perceptions, it takes conscious effort not to do this and that's why the conceptions that come from that are so hard to eradicate.
That's true, but it's important to always remind everyone that the distinctions themselves are false. Once you start accepting them as true you inevitably end up going down a bad path.
That is Whoopi Goldberg's real issue. If she were very consistent about man's inhumanity to man there really wouldn't be an issue. At the end of the day I don't really disagree with the statement. It's certainly true people have justified it on race, but the definitions shift over time and frankly shift from person to person. So it's real, but only in the way that all thoughts in your head are real, they are real thoughts in your real head.
Had similar thoughts here. It is real as long as people believe it is, unfortunately.
If things go bad than you join to your own like in the jails. Is it natural or logical? I do not know.
Nope. If races do not exist biologically, then no one would be able to tell is Whoopie Black or White. You need something objective to classify people into groups.
@@aleksazunjic9672 No you don't. The reason we make these distinctions are to allow discrimation. We need to start recognizing these divisions for the fabrications of deceit and oppression they are.
Great video TIK!
Best video on the topics. Thanks!
Thank you for not playing any clips from "The View".
I'm a member of the human race, at least as far as I know 😂
I think I am as well
Same here
That's exactly what a synth would say...
@@hardanheavy oh god. KYLE!
(Please tell me someone gets the reference)
@@TheImperatorKnight If we were talking about any other animal, we would be using the words species, sub-species and breed. That would probably end up sounding even more "racist" even if it were far more accurate.
At first I thought they were talking about the Holocaust's role in the US education system, because that was what the view segment was originally about. If you look at her comments through that lense she is right, the main focus of Holocaust education in schools should be on how people brutalize one another in general instead of simply explaining the racial motivations and leaving it at that. However I think Whoopi went on to say that she was actually referring to the Holocaust as an event, so it doesn't really matter.
Yes, because black people have only been "censored" by white people. Not National Socialists. Oh, and of course the "history" of those African countries.
@@cydad111 not sure who you’re talking to or what this is supposed to mean
@@od8401 She wants to achieve her goal and has never experienced "youtube censorship", so she can say that this kind of "youtube censorship" is the reason for "youtube censorship".----Translated by Google.
People will always find reasons to brutalize one another. It's better that people know what is wrong, instead of the vague and impossible guide line of "don't be evil" - because the brain will simply default to the egotistical "Well, I'm not evil", because contemplating the full weight of what that entails in every possible situation is insurmountable, and expecting anyone to be that wise is naive. One has to first be taught what good is.
She has 20 million different wars and events of extreme cruelty all around the world. Yet she expect you to define the biggest and most known one to be defined by race, as another "cruelty event". No.
Wait!!! It's been 2 years?!?! It feels like it was just a few months ago. Why does time feel like it moves so much faster when you're older.🤣😭
This is what happens when you only censor one side.
So... according to Hitler, did the Kingdom of Israel (c.1000 BC - 722 BC) not count as a proper nation?
Does he ever bother trying to reconcile the historical fact of empires founded by non-Aryan peoples with his theories? If so, how?
"Oh but the historical people actually WERE Aryans, and their downfall was caused by their bloodlines getting muddled!!" This is what I've heard. Circular logic at its finest.
Assuming the Israelites were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe? Also, if one researches enough they will inevitably come to the conclusion that 'ancient' or scaligerian history is fraudulent.
As for the idea of miscegenation leading to the downfall of civilizations. I think there is evidence to suggest this, in India, Babylon, Egypt etc. Many of these Nations still have a caste system based appearance and skin colour.
@@harrisonlincoln8343 Askenazi and Separdic Jews both claim descent from the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, so I'm not sure that the distinction is helpful. A quick Google search of the word "scaligerian" shows that what you're describing may be reasonably described as a conspiracy theory. I don't have the time or the desire to debate it here, but let us say that it's not exactly a mainstream line of thought.
Regarding miscegenation: it seems to me that it's something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. No empire lasts for ever. A growing empire will naturally accumulate subject peoples, and the larger an empire grows, the more prone it will be to balkanising in the wake of a civil war (as was the case with the Roman Empire and Russian Empire, though the Soviet Union was mostly successful at re-forging these balkanised states into a new whole). In short: a state which balkanises will naturally have had the opportunity for miscegenation, but it doesn't follow that miscegenation is the cause of that balkanisation.
@@stephenwood6663 I love how 30 seconds of searching and finding the words 'conspiracy theory' is all it takes for you to dismiss the idea entirely. Scaligerian historiography was approved by the catholic church, for the uninstructed multitude, like most other mainstream ideas. Of course they would call it a conspiracy theory to say otherwise. Astronomy disproves so much of it, it's difficult verify anything prior to the 20th century.
Also my OP, was sarcasm, Ashkenazi Jews have absolutely zero to do with the Levant. Not even linguistically, because until recently they spoke Yiddish. The Jews have as much to do with Palestine as did the British that they used to take the territory, just to use terror attacks against the British administration so that they could annihilate the Arabs without oversight. God's chosen people?
My professor at my university attempted to define Critical Race Theory in his first lesson. I was ignorant at to what it meant but now I see why he opened his course with defense, because he knew that he was lying and attempting to manipulate his student base. Doesn't surprise me that he promotes Marxism and criticized me for calling him out on normalizing radical behavior in his lessons.
Joseph O'Brien Itis a disgrace what is happening in our universities and schools.
I am suffering in my country because of socialist state that is controlling everything, but really does an American prof. teaches marxism in USA? In the richest and most succesful country? I mean, what is the problem of him? If socialist ideology is valid for someone, then USA should be the last place to live for him...
@@karaaslan7402 It is amazing, isn't it? But our universities are filled with socialists. Socialism is s very appealing ideology, only as you can testify to, it does not work. What is amazing is that nowhere else in America have prices increased so much as in academia where the professors constantly castigate America. They decry capitalists but insist on students paying high fees to finance their bloated salaries. They can influence young people because the metric they set up is to compare America to utopia. Of course, compared to perfection. America does not do well. Compared to other actual real countries it is a very different story which is why people from all over the world are voting with their feet to come to America.
@@dennisweidner288 At a substantial majority of universities most of the teaching is done by a class of "professors" who aren't paid much. (Which doesn't mean they aren't clueless Socialists.)
@@gandydancer9710 Gandy,
You know I occasionally listen to C-Span which runs videos of university lectures, often on interesting topics. It is amazing the amount of PC, CRT, and woke drivel that they work into their lectures. And not a murmur of objection from the students. I sometimes e-mail them, but they are almost never willing to defend their lectures. I think that they have grown up in a Marxist ideological bubble and are just unaware that there are legitimate objections to how they spin the American story. Some of course are all too aware.
Interestingly some of the worse are the professors in women's studies. They go on and on about how terrible it was for women in America. Now I do not mind this because it is substantially true, but what I do mind is that almost never do they point out that America was at the forefront of the fight for women's rights and the situation for women in America was better than in almost all other countries, and not just Islamic and Hindu societies. Also note how the movement to attack Western Civilization never touches on the fact that it is in the West that the movement for women's rights arose.
One final matter. The universities go and on about inequities in America. Never mentioned is how expensive university education has become. Cost increases have outpaced virtually every other sector in American society. This, of course, creates hurdles for low-income students, forcing them to borrow huge sums. And because of admissions policies, accepting unprepared students, many do not graduate, leaving them with no degree, but with huge debts to pay off. This is basically a scam on unsuspecting low-income young people. And of course, never mentioned by the PC media
Tik I think that you have some of the best arguments when it comes to the racialization of Jewish history by Marx and Hitler, but as a Jew, I think your missing a part of Jewish history which clouds knowledge about Jews from outsiders which ultimately led to alot of Hitlers Jewish conspiracies. The gap is the divide between the Eastern and Western European Jewish communities that ultimately created their different political beliefs. Your history of Western European jews and their history of being part of the bourgeoisie is mostly correct. For the most part, Catholic countries kept Jews from obtaining land and forced them into a narrow range of professions which resulted in them becoming part of that wider class of townsfolk which would lead to alot of them to become bougiosie. In Eastern Europe though, this was much less true, and it resulted in a very different political community. European states such as Poland Lithuania did allow their Jews to settle farms and communities and this would eventually result in a rural population comprising what was traditionally called the Pale of Settlement. Eventually this area became almost entirely dominated by the Russian Empire after the Partition of Poland. Because the Russian Empire had successfully prevented Jews from settling in traditional Russia, the Jewish Pale of Settlement was the first large Jewish population the Russians had to deal with, and they took the opposite approach. They restricted Jewish communities to the fringes of their Empire, particularly in the areas where they already resided, and the Jewish community developed in a very similar way to the average European peasant. By the 19th century, it was this region of Russia which would be seeing the same type of industrialization that the rest of Europe was seeing and the Jewish people were driven towards the cities mostly due to the promise of economic prosperity. This Jewish population would become more of a traditional Labor class, and they would go on to form the first major Labor Union in the Russian Empire, the Jewish Labor Bund. The Bund would eventually contribute to the formation of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, that party would split into Menshiviks and Bolshiviks, and the rest is history. It is therefore true that while in the West Jews were driven into a sort of capitalist bougiosie role, the Eastern jews were driven into a socialist proletariat role, and it was these two communities which likely drove Hitler and alot of anti-semites to determine that there was a wider Jewish conspiracy. The problem was and still is that there wasn't an acknowledgement of the two Jewish communities being somewhat separate. While it's true that there was still connection between the Jewish communities, it is also true that most Jewish scholars also believe that nearly all Eastern European Jews actually originated from an small group of Jews who first arrived in Poland in the late middle ages, meaning that there were in fact two Jewish communities which developed in two different political directions instead of one. I think that futher researching the Jewish Labor Bund and the Pale of Settlement would help further your knowledge of Jewish history and better understand how Hitler developed this conspiracy of both Jewish capitalism and Jewish bolshism simultaneously.
Were these 2 seperate communities both Ashkenazi?
@David McCarroll kind of, but also not really. Most of Western Europe went through an expulsion of the Jews phase in the 15th century which culminated in the Alhambra decree in Spain (which mainly effected Sephardics). This meant that much of the Jewish community remaining in Western Europe became refugees and they congregated in the few places which would still have them (which were mostly small German principalities in the HRE and in the low countries which would form the Netherlands). These Jewish communities became heavily mixed between Sephardics and Azkhanazi, so while they officially maintained Azkhanazi institutions, these were too small to effectively control such a concentrated population. A big part of the rise of capitalism was actually these communities wanting to engage in industries which offered some degree of asset security. The Sephardics had been much wealthier living in Spain than their new refugee status, so they took up trade as a way to sustain their communities and allow them to keep their wealth liquid in case of further expulsions. This trade would be heavily encouraged by the rulers of their new lands, in particular the leaders of the Netherlands who were organizing a revolt against the Spanish Hapsburgs and were happy to take financial contributions from a population who hated the Spanish as much as they did. After the success of this trade became large enough to finance a large standing army for the Dutch, the other Western European leaders began to relax their restrictions on Jews in the hope that they would migrate back and include their territories in the new global trade network.
This was kinda the moment the communities diverged. In the west, the divide which separated Jews from other Europeans was breaking down due to protestantism, and many began agitating for the dismantling of the Jewish community and the "Jewish Emancipation" in which they would be considered citizens of the country they lived in first. At the same time, Poland began recruiting Jewish families in the HRE to travel to Poland and settle the recently conquered territories of the east, a move which they beleived would bring the region wealth (and to be fair it kinda did). So the more hardliners who did not want to have anything to do with the new Jewish communities left for the east, leaving a much more moderate community in Western Europe. They would eventually build institutions in Eastern Europe which would become the center of the Azkhanazi world, in places which had not contained a single jew a few centuries earlier. Western European jews would continue down the path of the reform movement, and their communities became less prominent as many would trade wealth for status. Jewish Emancipation was a core tennent of the french revolution, and all the revolutionary leaders from Robspierre to Napoleon took steps to enforce it like tearing down the Ghettos, and so by the end of the Revolution, all Jewish communities west of the rhine were integrated into the framework of the nations they inhabited. They're less well known today because those communities made active efforts to assimilate, but they would establish some famous upscale neighborhoods in cities like New York, London, and Paris.
Thank you for your comments. You sound like you really know what you're talking about. So I ask you. In trying to figure out the roots of European antisemitism. It began to look as if it was by design from the start. Jews were brought in by the crowns. Given jobs that would lead to animosities with the existing population. Forced to take wives from the natives. It was all to create a divided population that could be played off against each other. So there couldn't be a united revolt by the populace against the crowns. Since all the royals of Europe are related. It was their conspiracy. And it was practiced all over Europe. Am I off base? Or do you think there is something to this. Is this something that is already considered. And maybe it's cryptomnesia on my part that I came to this conclusion.
Weird how you mix up references to colonialism and the holocaust to make your argument. You can also make your point without tthe need for absolutism. Same goes for your anti socialism rants. I know capitalists that are more socialist than socialists. A little bit less black and white thinking would help getting your message out there
"I dont believe in man-made religions" is a weird statement to make
Very well put together video as always TIK! Although one thing I really dislike about your position is that you seem to think that anyone who believes in one aspect of socialism believes in them all. While their support of socialism may inherently support antisemitism if you look at it from the most top-down perspective, I think that it is very possible to agree with some aspects of socialism while abhorring others. In these instances, should they simply not call themselves socialists and should we not label them as such? Or would you still call them socialists and continue to lump them in with the antisemites and extremists? I feel that sometimes your arguments apply very broad strokes on society, as most people do not believe in every aspect of something the purport to believe in. In my eyes, this muddies a few of your arguments in a way that seems insincere.
"Although one thing I really dislike about your position is that you seem to think that anyone who believes in one aspect of socialism believes in them all."
No, I don't. Socialism is the umbrella term that I'm using to cast a net over the entire movement, since socialism itself is at the heart of all the various factions. I understand that there's minor differences between the factions, but ultimately I can't sit there listing every faction every time I want to talk about them.
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"While their support of socialism may inherently support antisemitism if you look at it from the most top-down perspective, I think that it is very possible to agree with some aspects of socialism while abhorring others."
Right, but the reason people are socialist is because they think the (Jewish) "free market" doesn't work. But that assumption itself is born out of anti-Semitism. So to be a socialist is to accept that anti-Semitic arguments are correct. If you agree that the (Jewish) "free market" is bad, then you have no counter when a National Socialist argues this. Why are you any different to a Nazi? They were saying the same thing!
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"Or would you still call them socialists and continue to lump them in with the antisemites and extremists?"
No no, they are one and the same. Whether individual socialists realize it or not, anti-Semitism is fundamental to the idea of Socialism, because their dislike of the "capitalist free market" is the same thing as anti-Semitism, due to the fact that the Jews were (historically) so closely tied to the bourgeoisie, capitalism and the free market.
Someones butthurt...
@@TheImperatorKnight thanks for the in depth reply, I definitely see what you mean and I agree on the whole. One thing that I am still curious about is what you would call people who agree with only a few aspects of socialism such as partially socialized healthcare? It seems disingenuous to label them as socialists when there is clearly a lot of baggage to go along with that term that would often not apply to these people.
TIK, the anti-socialist who loves the NHS.
There exists a multitude of definitions of what socialism is, and TIK narrow-mindedly only recognizes a fringe interpretation of what socialism is, an interpretation only used by certain rightwing people and never used by self-identifying socialists. As excellent TIK is in debunking critical race theory, as garbage is he in explaining socialism.
34:27 TIK i dont get your position, you claim there are no races by using a national geographics article ? When you talk about economics you use warying sources and you are sceptical about the mainstream, but about race you just accept the mainstream opinion ?
My take on that was that Lewis was giving the official line, with his own opinion reserved and open to persuasion.
@@hermitoldguy6312 Correct. I don't know if the mainstream science is correct or not in this case, and I'm no scientist. But I do think an individual is hindered more by their culture and their false beliefs than by IQ or skin colour. I'm not saying that those things are not a factor, just less of a factor compared to thinking that "money is bad" etc.
@@TheImperatorKnight yes. Races are equal because they dont actually exist. Culture are not equal, some are better than others.
@@TheImperatorKnight well i somewhat understand you but if you yourself claim you are no expert on this topic you dont have to push to your audience that race isnt real and that everyone who doenst believe in this is a national socialist. You can talk about how nazism and how racial discrimination is bad without denying race .
BATTLESTORM: WHOOPI GOLDBERG
Millions lost their lives, but it was a turning point
@@TheImperatorKnight it wasn’t about race tho!
@@TheImperatorKnight "The View" is a genocide against braincells
@@TheImperatorKnight Tik I think you should make your own discord server with good mod and rules
@@wtice4632 lmfao i spit my drink out
Race is a social construct used to categorize people based on genetic traits. So is the categorization scientific? Well, not entirely. But when most people say "race is a social construct with no scientific basis" that would be inaccurate. Different phenototypes developed different genetic traits based on evolution, dark skin has more melanin to protect from UV radiation, people with dark skin originate from near the equator... If I were a White South African then obviously I wouldn't fit the "social construct" of the phenotype that is classified as a "race" pertaining to a certain region of the globe, but claiming that "this proves race isn't real" is rather disingenuous. Race is no different than dog breeds, if a Chihuahua pup were adopted into a litter of Great Danes does that make it a Great Dane? All domestic dogs are the same species and display vast differences in appearance and traits, not unlike humans. This is why your argument is silly.
Is race a social construct? Yes.
Is it just a convenient grouping of humans based on genetic traits that are easily observable? Yes.
Can those traits be measured? Yes...
Are those traits in your DNA...
But... Race... Isn't real...
Sorry bud, but trying to sound progressive and not offend by denying well established science just makes you sounds stupid.
Whoopi Goldberg she knows what she was doing the day she changed her name. To Goldberg.
Eye-opening subject, never really thought of it like that. Really changes your outlook. Keep it coming!
I never got the “Jews never had a nation line” Hitler said.
What about the Kingdom of Israel?
israel only exists thanks to hitler study about haavara agreement
I can't remember if Hitler talks about the Kingdom of Israel or not, but I'm sure he has an excuse.
Possibly the Khazar Khaganate (Khazaria), which was reported by Muslims such as Ibn Rusta to have converted to Judaism in the 9th century. The pastoralist Turks of Central Asia pretty much gave every religion a crack. The three Abrahamic religions, Buddhism, Manichaeism, Zoroastrianism, and Hinduism as well as their own animist beliefs.
@@TheImperatorKnight if i had to speculate it would be the fact that the Existence of the Iron age jewish kingdoms was incredibly hotly debated in the early 20th century before the founding of israel and many considerd them mythical or allegorical so he probably subscribed to that as well
Kingdom of Israel may of never existed at all since that region was ruled by Assyrian Empire, Canaanite, Babylonian Empire, Roman Empire, multiple Kingdoms of Egypt, Persian Empire, Hittites and Greece. More of a crossroads between empires with no recorded evidence of a State during that time period from 1500 BC - till a brief period between Greece withdraw and Roman takeover..
Was expecting the Hyperinflation series, but this is a welcome addition!
That'll be next week. I wasn't ready with that video so this was done instead
@@TheImperatorKnight Thank God, I've been looking forward to that one.
@Belagerungsmörser the Sheep l o l
>Surname is Goldberg
>Says she's Jewish
>Says the Shoah wasn't about race.
The mental gymnastics is unreal. Also, she doesn't seem to be able to separate Judaism the religion from being ethnically Jewish. Language, culture, race, religion, shared history, all of that good stuff.
You do realize Whoopi Goldberg IS Jewish, right?
@@Kamalvincent No, she's not. Not ethnically, and not religiously.
Whoopi Goldberg is her stage name.
@@cloudybeforerain7134 I'm aware, I watched the video.
@@joshualoganhoi4 Well done, you.
Goebbels considered the greatest revolutionaries of history: 1. Hitler 2. Marx 3. Lenin
Whoopi Goldberg makes the American mistake of seeing all racism as a ‘black vs white’ issue.
You know the really scary part? Whoopi isn't even the dumbest of "The View"'s hosts.
Honestly the entire debate of whether the Holocaust was about race is pretty much utterly redundant because it not matter to the victims why they were killed.
It made no difference to the children of Lidice that they were sent to the gas chambers at Chelmno for being Czechs as opposed to being Jews or Gypsies.
It made no difference to the citizens of Oradour-sur-Glane that they were burned alive in their own church and their tight-knit community that had existed for nearly a millennia was destroyed for being French as opposed to be Jews.
It made no difference to the men of Putten that they were sent to slave labor camps to perish in squalid conditions for being Dutch as opposed to being Jews.
It made no difference to Settela Steinbach that she was put on a train to Auschwitz to be gassed for being a Gypsy as opposed to being a Jew
It made no difference to Czesława Kwoka that she was put on a train to Auschwitz to be starved and beaten to death for being a Pole as opposed to being a Jew
It made no difference to the 5-6 million Jews who were shot, starved, or gassed that they were murdered for being of the wrong faith/slightly different genetic group as opposed to being the wrong skin color
*What matters is that the Nazis considered these people to be inferior human beings whose lives were worth less than theirs and could be brutalized, enslaved, and murdered for the sake of expediency, pleasure, or fulfilling insane ideological fantasy*
Reject collectivism
Way underrated comment.
you are right, obviously. But far too much attention on Whopper Fatberg is really not the way to go.
yeah... he was overly generous on his take of The View. Keep it simple TIK... "low-IQ show"
Naah, he's mansplaning.
Making a vid about the Nuremberg laws would be a very addiquite way to describe the point your making.
When you spend so much time calling people you disagree with Nazis and forget what Nazis were actually like.
Forget? These low IQ savages never had any idea to begin with- how dare they try to interpret our western civilization/ history. The ultimate in cultural appropriation.
You know Marx is a bad dude when TiK gives him the Hitler voice
Loved the video. I second the recommendation for James Lindsay's: Race Marxism. It is an excellent book!
Check out James Lindsay’s youtube channel “New Discourses”.
Good work on last weeks video Tik. I finished Stahel’s “Barbarossa.” It’s good.
I'm glad you enjoyed last week's video, because it was one of the worst performing videos in ages. People complain that I should "stick to tanks", then don't watch the military stuff
Stahel's book is good. Have you seen some of his lectures on UA-cam? If you've read the book then he only goes over the same stuff in less detail
That’s a bummer. I liked how you brought up the Indian troops in the British Army. I know of them from my undergrad thesis on Singapore. The 11th Indian Division I believe I was in Malaya. Issue with equipment and experience. If I remember correctly, Alan Warren’s “Britain Greatest Defeat,” mentioned that many of the experienced NCOs of the Indian units in the Far East were picked and sent to the Middle East and maybe Africa(read book 10 plus years ago.) The Indian soldiers dealt a fair bit of damage to the Japanese at Kota Bharu, but had a lot working against them.
I saw his lectures first before buying the book. He did a great job at analyzing the Wehrmacht and Army Group Centre. I’ll be on the lookout for his other work.
I'm a Jew beause my mother was Jewish, I believe in one god, and I have chosen to follow that way of life. There is a familial component to the identity . . . but it's far from establishing a 'race'
But a race and an ideology wrapped up into one? I thought that was a bad thing?
I have no idea what the 'appropriate' term is to define them, but in healthcare in some situations it can be very relevant to know what group of people a person belongs to.
Depending on ancestry/genetics members of some groups will react differently to various medications, will have vastly different risk factors and will have different values for whats considered a healthy range for test results. Though l do find it strange that most medical admission forms don't ask what your natural hair colour is as redheads do react differently especially to pain killers and so many people dye their hair these days.
The simple fact is that their are many distinct biological differences between various groups, most of which are not externally visible and can have positive or negative effects.
To my recollection, the UN defines ethnic cleansing according to language. In other words, a violent black man is not considered nationalist, if he speaks English in England. According to that definition, the USSR was guilty of ethnic cleansing also inside its own borders.
If you look at the definition of racism, it also includes ethnicity. From persecution to mass murder to include genocide based on either race or ethnicity, it is about race.
Wrong. Although leftist tend to call anyone they disagree a "racist" , original idea was to smear those believing that all biological races are not equal.
Its been abit glossed over but I'd argue she said something that was actually worse. The quote about it being OK because its "white people v white people" is one of the worst things someone has ever said. It literally says that the holocaust was OK just because of who it was done to.
Spoiler alert, the holocaust is wrong. How it was justified is irrelevant next to the fact that millions of people were murdered to satisfy prejudice. Who or why it happened are details but its wrong no matter who it is done to, done by or how it is justified.
That’s the kind of person Whoopi is. People like her despise white people and love it when anything bad happens to us.
I don't think she said it was OK
@@alexkozliayev9902 The implication of it "not being racism" was clearly that it was no real matter of concern to her.
@@gandydancer9710 i think she implied, that mere fact of violence of human to another human matters to her more than if it was because of race or not
@@alexkozliayev9902 You are confused. She's a race hustler, pure and simple.
"There's no such thing as race, and hardly such thing as ethnicity." - P.J. O'Rourke
I'm glad to be included among good company (Tik, O'Rourke, me) on the basis of something substantive: Common understanding independently arrived at by distinctly different individuals. Critical thinking which values truth is a good thing to have in common. I'm ok with that as a group identity. ("verbal" jab😉)
I don't think that Whoopie's comments were out of line with a modern interpretation of race and whiteness from modern SJWs more or less being that the only race differences that matter is black and white. I don't think she meant anything ill by it towards it or denail of the Holoccaut. Just a hyper focus on that black and white perspective. Still igorance.
The cause of this ignorant comment was the very American view that race = skin color
A view that completely ignores the European point of view that race = ethnicity
That is not a surprise since America was built on assimilating all kinds of enthicities into one American identity , erasing ethnic divides this way
It's not working
Hurray another Tik video!
FIRST! Hope you enjoy the video
Probably another controversial one too lol
@@threemeters1425 Definitely a controversial one
The comic book Maus wasn't banned. One middle school in Tennessee said that it wasn't appropriate for the curriculum of 8th graders. That's it. No banning, no book burning, nothing was removed from libraries, just one book wouldn't be taught as part of the official school board approved course work.
Just found you through your fantastic Socialist Hitler and Eric Hunt videos. You have my total respect, for what it's worth from an internet stranger lol, and I'm glad this asinine website's ridiculous algorithm let me find your channel. Please keep making videos and I hope and pray for the best for you and yours sincerely. Thank you for your approach, study and earnest bearing on all these difficult and gruesome subjects yet having consideration and fascination with real history unfiltered by political or social bias.
tl;dr You rock dude thanks!
My takeaway: The holocaust was ALL ABOUT race. Race Atrocity does not have to be only about white vs dark skin.
You know... the worst part about this controversy (that's NOT the stupid things said on The View) is the fact that Maus is still available in the school's library, but it's off the REQUIRED reading list/"Books to specifically teach" list because of the nudity and depiction of suicide... for the 8th grade class.
The 8th graders can (and probably will) check it out and read it, especially hearing about how controversial it is.