Actually, Leftists aren't STUPID people
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"The Right thinks the Left is stupid, the Left thinks the Right is evil" - this is a saying I've heard from time to time. Thanks for the video, mate.
The deeper you look the more the opposite seems to be true in my experience, the left promotes blatant evil dogma under the guise of social progress and the right is full of idiots who don't even understand the score or even the true nature of the struggle being waged
What is the “right”? There is socialism and there are people who judge people on their actions… do u have to be on the “right” for being against collectivism?
They’re not the same. Leftists want me to play by their rules. Fascism in a nutshell. People on the “right” want to be left alone. Conservatives, classical liberals, individualists… in other words, no intolerant groupthink.
@@RB-tl8cf yah you sound like the perfect example of the right I was referring too. Wanting to be left alone is not enough, they don't want to leave you alone and never will
@@ragemode7595 what do you mean by the true nature of the struggle being waged?
@@ragemode7595 whoa, no need for that. I was just being critical on the generalization of the “right”.
I fully agree with u. My philosophy is to be left alone. I see the danger in collective lunatics. That’s not rocket science. I don’t give an inch to these fascist morons. Those are two separate things. I’m fully aware of the war raged against the west and its individualistic, enlightenment way of thinking. There’s no place for a person like me in any groupthink mentality. The literature, history and individual intolerance towards me when I speak out against marxism/socialism makes me aware of why there are 100+ million deaths in name of “the revolution”. Dividing the world in oppressed and oppressor, judging people based on the group they are part of and seeing them as the oppressor aka ‘the bad white guy’.
I’m very, very aware. Over my dead body if it were for me. I can’t seem to have just one day not tripping over a muslim or socialist intolerant douche bag. But hey, I live in Western Europe, so I’m the bad guy.
TIK,
I never was a Socialist or leftie, but I've still learned more from your channel than my entire history degree. Don't give up.
Your history degree isn't worth shit then.
Lmfao
I find him handy too. Mostly I use his channel to decide what books I buy. It certainly beats being repeatedly lied to and insulted by socialists.
Honestly. So much better than all the Wikipedia channels
@@tuckercarlsonbot Get over it boy
Funniest part is when people tell you, “Hitler was a liar,” when he calls himself a socialist but when he calls nationalizing an industry ‘privatization’ they take his word for it.
He never even called it that btw Also even if he did it would not matter because Hitler saw the German people (state) as one corpus therefore "privatizing" the industry meant giving it from the hands of the capitalists to the people which once again just means nationalising it if you unclutter the meaning behind Hitlers words.
@@cptpayday2080 That is actually one of the issues I have when dealing with Marxist. Marxist are Nationalist, the Working Class is their Nation. So for a Marxist the Nationalization of the Means of Production = Giving The Means of Production to the Workers. For A Racial Nationalist like the Nazis, Nationalization of the Means of Production literally just means taking business away from those who are outside the "Race" and giving it back to the "People" who are the "Race." Marxist fail to understand that what they want is nearly identical to what Nazis want. The only fundamental difference is one is built around a Social Class, and the other as Racial Class.
You can apply the same thing to Feminism as well. Feminist want to use the State to force business to hire more Women regardless of qualifications. For a Feminist this is the Nationalization of Business. If women are in charge, and they're Feminist, their Nation is Women, so Women run business is the Feminist idea of "Nationalization" whether they realize it or not.
Considering that Hitler privatized more than any other western country at that time, and that he did everything in his power to cut the wind from under any union, yeah I wouldn't call him a socialist, and neither does any historian worth his salt. Calling the Nazis socialists is revisionism, pure and simple, and if you think just because they put "socialist" in their name they are socialists, I hope you never heat a urinal cake thinking its a cake just because it has the word in its name
No Hitler did both, he did not care.
@@Alte.KameradenTurns out that the human will to power makes the distinction academic.
As a committed rightist, I can honestly say that the primary things I actually have respect for socialists for is their fanatical drive and ambition to achieve their political goals. Laziness and lack of drive have NEVER been attributes I've associated with them. Honestly, my biggest problem with the Right is that they seemingly have this default deference to other people to do their political bidding on their behalf. That's why we always get stuck (in the US, anyway) with these spineless grifters who say all the things we want to hear, and then when push comes to shove, they cow-tow to the left and turn defeat into a virtue.
You nailed it.
Modern-day "leftists" kind of are. But Stalin, Lenin, Mao and most other leftists of the 20th century were definitely strong-willed, dilligent and hardworking. But not so much anymore
Heh. That's just it. The avocado toast crowd aren't in the same league as the real revolutionaries, they're just on an ego trip, spurred on by propaganda aimed at radical progressives and so on.
Paul pot Genghis Khan Vlad the impeller they were all very motivated
Yes and according to leftists they are being way to nice. These people are insane fanatics. The battle is already lost.
Correct....you can be very intelligent, highly educated and wrong about everything.
Usually the most dangerous people are the intelligent but misguided
Its often a midwit disorder
Look at the British prime minister Eaton and Oxford University as he's completely stupid.
Indeed, the area where this is made most stark is investing. And unlike social 'sciences' it's easy to measure success in investing
@@lokischildren8714 It's Eton.
And no, Johnson is actually very well educated.
It's just you seem to think he runs the country. He doesn't. He follows orders
Pal, instead of getting so emotional over it, you have to just push on and say what you believe is true. The internet will always attack you, even if you were the most uncontroversial person on the planet. You have to take a break sometimes, perhaps just watch a movie, go play some video games or play some sports. Do literally anything that isn't connected with politics, or at worst is tangentally related. You put a lot of passion into this, but you have to accept that you will have your detractors. I'm not saying that you should ignore all criticism, but you need to also give yourself some space to rest.
True.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
This is a gas-light comment.
Keep being honest and talking about what's on your mind TIK, nevermind the abusive people.
@@colin3424 How am I gaslighting TIK when this is literally the same thing that I said? I told TIK to do what he is doing, just take in mind that he will have detractors and that nothing can be done about that, and if he feels too pressed he should take a bit of time for himself and take a break.
@@thotslayer9914 I'm pretty sure that I never watched a Kyle Kulinski video in my entire life as I don't remember it, but maybe you could have. No idea.
Don't despair! The flak is greatest when you're over the target! In all seriousness, you present your topics in a way you really don't see anywhere else. I really appreciate your attention to nuance and just how you've really pulled the curtain back on a black & white, good vs. evil world.
Ronald Raegaen: "The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so"
Reagan was reckless spender giving aid to gangsters in Central America and Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan. He dreamed of a first strike nuclear capability with a star wars defense.
Liberal is not synonymous with left. Liberal means tolerant. NOT socialist. Another perpetuated lie. Much like the NAZIs were capitalist.
Said the guy who said trees cause air pollution
@michaelwebb1071 ::
Don't forget :: Ketchup is a vegetable❕️
@@michaelwebb1071 Considering they are right now(Canadian forest fires), it isn't entirely untrue.
The reason you should keep doing the videos is this-
For every person that comments and condemns you as an evil fascist or snake or what have you, there are probably dozens or hundreds who are on the fence or just ignorant of the situation who take what you say and research as possibly a grain of truth and start them down the ‘right’ path.
Try to determine if the person is ignorant or a criminal, or if you're the one who is wrong. An honest examination of the empirical evidence is the best remedy. Left fascist criminals are impervious to contrary evidence, and because of the fanatic nature of the socialist religion they cannot tolerate insults directed at the sacred cows of Marxism. If they fail the first test, try saying something uncomplimentary and undeniably true about a Marxist hero and watch what happens.
That's the idea. All these videos don't go to waste. Neutral observers can see exactly what's going on. TIK is presenting pure backed up facts and evidence, and the lefties are responding like little crybabies. Their arguments mirror those of flat earthers. Hysterical, nonsensical, and emotional. We're on the right side of history. Literally.
Bad news, there is no one "right" path.
@@AverageAlien Examples of these "emotional" comments? I see people making cogent arguments only to be called "commie" or "crybaby."
@@AverageAlien TIK doesn't have a side. He just relates the facts. That's how he makes his living. That's what makes him such a problem for the red munchkins.
Tik, I have to say, as a long time fan and viewer of your work, it truly makes me sad to see your frustration. I feel though like I must tell you that your efforts are not in vain. The content you have made has changed lives and made them better. For me personally it definitely opened my eyes and made me better. Never feel like your work is going to waste. If people like you don't tell us the truth we will never move forward. If you have to be the serpent, then do for our sakes.
Fight.
Very well said Mr. Blam.
TIK, Mr.Blam said exactly what I feel.
Please don't stop making content.
Well said
Hear, hear!
If someone could please comment on Carl Sagan in this video: ua-cam.com/video/Qk1kuYPt51g/v-deo.html
Is he saying something that needs consideration outside of either right or left positions?
I wanted to throw my two cents in for this, and I think its actually a good thing that you're explaining this, because World War II (your primary focus) cannot be decoupled from economics and politics. Not many aspects can be looked solely through the lens of what was happening on the ground, and especially on the eastern front not many aspect can be fully explained and reported on because of the geopolitical and economic circumstances involved in the decision making. Chieftain's video on soviet tank doctrine was another good example of how you really can't decouple doctrinal development in the soviet union from the politics of the higher-ups, and it added a lot of perspective as to why people made the decisions they made. It may be a political video here, but in the context of soviet decision making on the eastern front and the context of Hitler and fascism, its the right video to make in the grander scheme of things.
I am sure that historian is one of the most difficult job because to understand the past, you ought to understand economics, geography, biology, etc. Heck, even some chemistry and mechanical engineering never hurts!
@@advancedomega It depends on the level of detail you wish to convey in your history. If just a recitation of battle dates and outcomes that is one thing. To answer "why" takes more time. But all history is human driven which means economics, culture and technology.
@@odysseus2656 I totally agree. I despise rote-learning of dates. Sadly, many history teachers still do this.
@@advancedomega And or they present history in a terrible way that makes people either hate it or forget it, that otherwise might've either gotten interested in it, or at least remembered most of it after they leave school, which is usually not the case sadly.
From a practical point of view they make stupid choices. They might actually be intelligent people but from my experience they let their emotions and passions override any cognitive abilities they possess.
the correct term is midwit, by no way are they low iq and or do they lack education in general. the problems start when you can't comprehend that if you give everyone £1000 that £1000 will be worth nothing
Are you talking about leftists?? Yes!! Liberals not necessarily so and I’m moderate conservative and I grew up with liberals and I still work with and liberals and they make me laugh like crazy. I’m modest and they do things I would never do.😂😂😂 people are wrong when they say conservative or Republicans are racist or homophobic or anti-trans or this or that because it’s so I’m not true. We are not the bigots the media for their world tells them we are because republican politicians and business owners are no wealthier than democrat, business owners and politicians.
We know is normal every day people they all look upon us like a little presents and I voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and I would’ve been 2020 but they told me I wasn’t registered but two weeks prior I was. Anyway, I’m not gonna go along to get along and whether it’s against my religion or not. I am polite to people and I’m nobody to judge. Thank however, most conservatives get emotional over things that are really serious like major illness in the family or serious injury. Somebody being murdered, or beaten up. We pay taxes for Education and tlives but the police department got declined it, so where is that money going?? Even if people get arrested, they get out in no time and they don’t usually get indicted but it’s only like us defended ourselves or somebody else depending on the city and say we would be arrested and probably not see the light of day after the trial. I’m a 56-year-old woman who has lupus and rheumatoid arthritis but I will definitely speak up if somebody is being cruel to someone just because it’s rude. and Leftists do get really really emotional about things. I don’t know if it’s because they’re overly passionate about things or if it’s the surroundings. I was talking with my daughter and she’s conservative about things like saving money and family life & she’s more moderate when it comes to social life etc. etc. email that she’s married with kids but she’s definitely not judgmental and friendly to everybody. Just because we’re different doesn’t mean we don’t have to just like people as long as they don’t show their business and our faces. We are OK. if she doesn’t want her son being around, people, shooting up on the side of the streets and neither do I. It IS SAD!!! People need help and not enabling them to slowly die a terrible death, and that’s what I believe is caring more about people by not wanting them to harm themselves.
Nonetheless, she’s progressive or she was when it came to immigration and she knew my stance about illegal immigration and how I’m against it. For about a year she now knows why mom was against illegal immigration and I told her it was too much at one time and too much anyway because we have a guesswork or program that allows for something like 50,000 or 100,000 just for her migrants in every year except Donald Trump what in 15,000 but that’s because people were successfully able to get across the border and it’s 2 1/2 million got across the border when he was in office it seems like 10 times that many have gotten a Cross since Joe has been in office. I don’t live in a sanctuary city, but I know the benefits that it’s taken away from marginalized communities were poor people and minorities do work, but they were getting daycare assistance and food stamps because they were low income and so much of that got cut because illegal immigrants are getting it in addition to some of them getting SSI or Social Security.. yes!! all of them are getting Medicaid and it’s just blowing up our federal reserve
I do say this and that is if you’re not a tad bit liberal when you’re in your 20s, you don’t have a heart but when you’re 30 or 35 if you’re not more conservative you don’t have a brain.
I was going to leave a comment, but I see someone left enough comment for everyone
@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 Whatever you wanted to comment has been outlined in this one.
I don't think you have an obligation to get through those people. Deceit or emotional appeal is not really a good idea, because that would just take them to another cult. People need to just not be afraid of other opinions and accept that they might be wrong.
At some point seeking the truth, I just got to this realization. If I am seeking the truth, and there is no guarantee that I hold a truth, then I should not get attached to anything I hold. Nothing is holy.
I have to say, it takes quite a lot of strength to take the red pill. That's why many effeminates are blue-pilled.
Out of interest, do you accept it is you that might be wrong?
Why isn't emotional appeal a good idea? Emotions are what motivate us as humans, I don't see how it could be wrong to give a possible answer and way forward to people that are extra emotionally driven to eradicate abuse and poverty for example. Appealing to emotions is not the same as arguing with fallacies or ignoring facts.
Based. Empathizing with every side to understand each other and attempting to successfully work together to find effective answers to complex questions.
Ah im getting more and more sick of people using internet terminology
That's not what based means
@@Lord_Humungus Well, only not in the "meme"/"gaming" kind of way.
Really? Can you emphatize with someone who based his entire world view in debunked propaganda he just swallowed whole while deeming anyone who doesn't agree with him as an enemy to be destroyed?
@@heroesytumbas Bruh...I really don't like complaining about stuff, just for the sake of complaining about something, but what are you even saying? You are generalizing to such a massive extend, that you are no different than the "leftists" you are trying to counter against.
I think (in my opinion) it is a good split, when you categorize the "left-wing" into certain groups: You got the SJWs who you indeed can dismiss outright since they will not be listening to you - most of the time you can probably recognize them if they are waving a pride flag around or have them in their profile picture.
But you also got critically thinking social-deomocrats (whom I am admittingly one of) and democratic socialists (which I'd say are not the same, since many social-democrats prefer a "social-market-economy" over a completely socialist model).
And well, then you got the borderline or full extremists who most likely get your points, but try to frame you in a certain way to push forward their ideology. Stalinists, Leninists, National-Socialists, Fascists, Syndicalists, etc. In a kind of "The end justifies the means"-kind of way.
To finalize it and put it all together: You got people simply not understanding you, because of their world view, like you said. But there also are critically thinking individuals who are not too proud to make compromises and listen to the stuff you have to say. And well...you got those people who do understand you, but try to make you look bad for their own purposes.
Basically the, 1. Confused - 2. Rationalists - 3. Ideologes.
Tik, I don't always agree with you on Socialism vs Capitalism but you put together thoughtful arguments without resorting to petty name calling and I am learning some things. Thank you for explaining your viewpoints doing do in a civil fashion.
You're a literal liberal
@@wellsshady An astute observation.
I’ve never been a socialist, or a capitalist, always in between, but i love his videos even if I don’t agree. I wish he made a video outlining his current worldview
I actually read the Mesis article. As it turns out, you CAN learn something new each day.😂 It was eyeopening. This is a quote from that article:" The appropriate question is not “Who will build the roads?” but rather “Who will pay for them without taxation?” And the answer, historically speaking, seems to be anybody who stands to benefit from them." 🤔😎👍Thank you for your work TIK.
You sir/madam, are getting 1000 made up internet points from a stranger for actually looking into a reference, and 2000 more for it being Mises.
I've read all the books he frequently references, they are accurate references, reading DK won't make someone agree with you@@UmaROMC
I read that a good teacher learns from their students
TIK, in response to "why am I putting in the effort to source all these references even if it gets dismissed, I think the work you put into your videos and research is resulting in the creation of a really sublime body of work, and I think that you are doing a great service to the human community at large by compiling and presenting this information the way you have been. Please, for the sake of posterity, do not let the sticks-in-the-mud give you the impression that your labor is going to waste.
I couldn't agree more.
As General Albert Coady Wedemeyer said to Joe McCarthy in the USA: "If [leftists' behavior] were due to stupidity, then the laws of probability state that at least something would work out in our favor." The implication is pretty clear.
Wedemeyer has ample experience dealing with socialists and cimmunists in various nations so
Keep up the great videos TIK. Some people are so obstinate in their views that they will never change, but please know that your work is truly appreciated (as a history and politics student myself). Some of the most insightful and informative videos on the platform.
I was never a socialist, (though i am a moderate left unionist), but i always thought hitler was right wing, and you got through to me, you're doing a great job explaining the economics and politics behind ww2.
I think people who are really invested in an idea it can be very hard to even see that the idea might be wrong, ive been wrong more times than ive been right and it's always hard to admit it if you're really invested in it.
Your right - left paradigm is flawed...ua-cam.com/video/VogzExP3qhI/v-deo.html
I think that modern politics are so different even from the 1900s that there’s no point saying “right” or “left”
@@stale.baguette We use labels or short hand because it is difficult to articulate one exact belief system. The common right - left paradigm is designed to generate confusion and obfuscate the loss of liberty can comes from increasing the size and power of the federal government. Note how state governments have to balance their budgets, while the federal government has stolen 31 trillion dollars form future generations, and given it states with large state governments. More government means more power for the powerful and less power for the politically weak.
Socialism is an economic policy that, in modern English, is so bound up with left-wing stances on social/cultural issues it's assumed anyone with extreme versions of (modern English) right-wing stances on those issues cannot be/have been a socialist.
For example, Hitler openly and directly opposing the post-2015 left's most sacred cow, while Lenin didn't (until he thought he'd tolerated it too much).
The early Soviet Union had a very brief phase of "sexual liberation" the government both initiated and then forcibly suppressed, but did not oppose it from the beginning because they came to power by militarily overthrowing a divine-right monarchy with all the social conservatism that implies... so it just wasn't a thing in Russia until the Communists toyed with it themselves. The Furious Painter, on the other hand, took over the existing political system of a republic where it had been out of control for a decade.
@@saeyabor it's standard practice for the left to switch and/ or ignore definitions in order to further their narrative. After all their counter revolution to the enlightenment movement. They are trying to disrupt the the western world as it has existed for the last 200 years, in hopes of replacing it with their own totalitarian one. As for sexual liberation, from what I've heard of the Royals globally, they seem to have been the antithesis of sexual suppressed.
A very human and insightful video, honestly one of my favourites I've ever come across on UA-cam. Massive props for telling us your whole reason for making these history videos -> so that people can _actually_ learn from it, not just think of it as trivia
The most succinct,clear, and perfectly put explanation I've ever listened to, as and ex socialist im so extremely happy to have someone as coherent as you , put it so very well, thank you !
Hi TIK! Good to hear your insights. I use to read every comment I get and am sometimes dumbfounded by the ignorance of people. Especially when it comes down to revisionism and denialism. I think some people are so entrenched in their beliefs it's a waste of energy trying to convince them. Best of luck!
Maybe that's it... Maybe I'm wasting my time trying to educate those people, and should focus on those who do want to be educated. The problem is that my videos get swamped with Leftists, and it derails what could otherwise be a decent discussion in the comments sections.
maybe if you weren’t a self hating european you wouldn’t get so much hate😂
@@TheImperatorKnight Its what you hold for them in the process that makes it not worth it. Insults, rudeness ect. Dissolving someone else's conviction of belief brings out the wolves.
what about the typical Socialist, Evolutionist, Trinitarian, yes a contradiction but that is what most people probably are, problem is none of us know anymore, maybe the most deluded or just core beliefs we have haven't even been taught or let alone explained, does anyone actually know what or who they are and what truths they really stand for? Politics is just the hoover that sucks up all those who can't answer 'yes'
A Dutchman and a British talking about how dumb people get when talking about eastern front WW2 in UA-cam.))
Love you both
Keep the content and big big big shoutout!
Ronald Reagan said of Leftists 'They know so much that isn't true.' Pretty good summation.
You might not believe this, but what you've expressed here sounds exactly like how ex-muslims describe leaving Islam.
The penalty for leaving is unalivation.
@@Rellikan What a pair of fascist cretins
@@RellikanCry about it
@@tigerexe860 The people mald crying about "traitors" are the babies crying about it.
That's not what the new 5000 UK Muslim reverts (yearly average) believe though.
I love your channel TIK. It is actually the best history channel and exactly because you are sticking to Banks and you are not just listing factoids and parroting expired interpretations but _explaining_ history.
I feel it's safe to say that the vast majority of us greatly appreciate your videos. Even if I don't always agree with your conclusions your arguments and analysis are thought provoking and help me develope my own positions more fully. It's very clear how hard you work on research and the way you site sources allows those of us with an open mind to explore these issues in depth. Be proud of the work you are doing and don't let a minority of spiteful people take the joy out of your passion. Speak to those of us who are willing to listen and keep bringing us these videos which explore history in a depth not found elsewhere.
Honestly that's the ultimate goal right? Do as much investigating as possible, make a call. I respect TiK considerably for that to be honest. You can disagree with someone (not that I regularly do with TiK, but as an example) and still respect the work and recognise the points. That's the best possible outcome because it means you then focus on what you want to do with that knowledge and find compromise.
Hi Tik. I have just stumbled accross your political videos by accident (I was initially watching your military strategy videos) amd appear to have taken the red pill by accident. I am a retired C of E clergyman, 68 years of age, 40 years ordained and was for the majority of my life an adent socialist. I became dissillusioned with the labour party ( former member) when it pursued identity politics and affirmed all manner of things that my system of beliefs disagrees with. However, I would strongly contend for socialism. Having recently warched your economics and Hitler was a socialist/gnostic videos my eyes are opening. Oh my goodness I appear to have been wrong aboit how best the poor are helped for the majority of my lifetime. I'm not sure if I have come to any further conclusions yet, other than that so I am on a pilgrimage. I want to thank you for sacrifices in time, stress and feelings expended to make your videos. They are worthwhile. You have not just been "preaching to the choir".
As an educator you are always going to have people who refuse to be educated. When I refer to education, I am not talking about school brainwashing children, but educating people to make their own choices based on the facts. This does not mean you fail in any respect. It doesn't matter how big a hammer you use, some walls cannot be broken. Take heart in the fact that the silent majority love your videos and have expanded my mind and outlook greatly.
Hey Tik
Leftist here. I have never found your content to contradict my belief in social policy's like social security, free health care, minimum wage etc. I also believe i capitalism but the government needs to be used to protect people from the worst aspects of capitalism, and the exploitation it encourages. Also I could do without a revolution.
Wether that makes me a socialist I don't know.
Getting to the point I think you place to much emphasis on the most vocal part of the left wing community. The most vocal tend to be the most extreme. There are plenty of people who are left wing and like your videos. I found them well researched.
I personally don't think you should change this aspect of your work as this is why I watch your work In particular your Market Garden series although Starlingrad is becoming my favourite.
The comments are only a fraction of the viewership, extreme left or right. Even then I still see mostly positive feedback for your videos. But most important of all people are still watching. Even people who angry type at you in the comments are coming back to watch your content. So you must be doing something they like.
I don't always agree with your points but I never had the impression that you were out to decive me or anyone else and all you interpretations were always backed up.
Thanks for your comment. The idea that the State can protect us from the worst of the free market is an assumption that many make, but I want you to ask the question: But is this really the case? Would the free market really "eat the poor" if it was allowed to do so? And this is where I'd recommend the books "Economics in One Lesson" by Hazlitt, "Basic Economics" by Sowell, and "America's Great Depression" by Rothbard, because these will seriously challenge that assumption.
I also know there's a lot of left wing people who watch the videos who also like what I do. Unfortunately, a lot of them ignore the economics videos, which I understand, but I think it will come to hurt them in the long run. That's partly why I wanted to make this video, to get those people to understand that I'm trying to help them, not hurt them.
Gotta say man, based on your claim that you think Capitalism works, but we simply need some regulations on it, you are not a leftist at all. It seems to be a hard requirement for a leftist, to accept that socialism is the superior form of economics.
I am a "conservative" i guess, and definitely a "capitalist", but I also think that there should be government regulations, but only because the natural capitalism self correcting way is very, very slow, and we don't need to "learn the hard way" every time someone gets too clever and finds a way to exploit people.
@@rameynoodles152 I would say that your probably listening to to many right wing pundits. I used believe that all Conservatives wanted no regulation on anything, and just wanted a free for all. I learnt that that is only hard-core libertarians.
In this video tick said the left sees everyone as secret racists. And while I think he's exaggerating a little he's not to far off the mark. I believed all Conservatives where basically bigits and ignorant.
What I have learnt is that is on 70% of issues, proberbly more the left and right agree on. An easy example would be the NHS. Last time I checked it has a 96% approval rate despite the fact everyone knows its not being run particularly well right now. The argument isn't weither it should exist but how do you fix the problems.
Going back to the economic point most left wing people don't want socialism. Just like most Conservatives don't want an race war. These are extremist views. What people on the left want are more robust economic policy's to protect the working class. For companies to pay taxes and not be able to dodge them. And for there to be more equality of opportunity.
Out of the 3 things mentioned above, besides raising taxes on business, Conservatives have put those other aims in there manifesto.
Like I wrote earlier. Trust me when I say most people are centre left or centre right. All these online pundits are trying to convince you otherwise.
@@leejeromejardinejohnson8431 First of all, I definitely agree that most are center left or center right. But, just because somebody leans left, doesn't make them a "leftist". To conservatives, a "leftist" is an extremist socialist/communist, which is why, by definition, they must be fighting for socialism in order to qualify as a leftist.
A "Conservative", by my definition, is simply somebody who wants to see the United States return to its root ideals of freedom of the individual (which inherently means a captitalist economy due to rights to own property/buy/sell etc), protected by the rights declared in the Constitution, and to eliminate as much government corruption as possible.
Also, I wouldn't even say that the most hard-core libertarians want a regulation free-for-all. That's called an Anarchist, or as some call it, an Anarcho-Capitalist.
The only difference between libertarians and conservatives, to me, is that conservatives also want to return to a more "Biblical" society, wheras libertarians are agnostic in those regards. Speaking of that, I guess I'm more of a libertarian.
The evidence suggests that more people want socialism than you think. There's a poll taken in 2020 (it's on The Hill) that shows Democrats view socialism more favorably than capitalism 56% (fav socialism) to 53%(fav capitalism). Among Republicans it was 74% (fav capitalism) to 26% (fav socialism).
Also, I'm speaking in terms of The United States, as the Conservatives and Leftists have a different meaning in The UK. I say this because you mention favorable support of NHS, which the USA doesn't have an NHS. BTW, that 95% support seems to have gone down to 36% as of 2021 according to the British Social Attitudes survey.
I think you're, honestly, a little out of touch bro.
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Mate, long time watcher but first time commenter. I’ve was motivated to comment to urge you to keep making your videos regarding the economics of war, even if the left is unconverted. I would describe myself as a conservative, and I love the way you distill the facts down into something comprehensible. I have learned a great deal from your videos. Please keep them going!
Hi Tik, I appreciate your open dialogue with you audience in this video. From what you are telling about yourself, I see we went through a similar development. You were a socialist/anarchist and became a libertarian/ancap. This change didn't occur because your values changed but because you understood the real world better. I used to be a political conservative (and still a social conservative). I used to believe government should be used to further the conservative agenda. Through a lot of reading and experiences (too much to discuss here) I realized that government isn't the solution but the problem, which converted me to libertarianism.
Your videos are a great source of knowledge which can help people go through a similar process. The hardcore lefties will not be converted but many people who haven't made up their minds will be. We can't do more than consistently speak the truth, which will slowly but surely chip away at the leftist paradigm. People tend to scream the loudest when they are most in doubt. There was a time when I was bitter about the stubbornness displayed by leftists too, and sometimes it still scares me. I take consolation in the old Jewish saying: 'it is not your responsibility to finish the work but neither are you free to desist from it'. This is our responsibility as human beings. Take heart and know that you are doing God's work. I am sending your videos to family members and friends and they help spark discussion..
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Honestly this is something that needed to be said as it is always a detrimental flaw to underestimate your opponent
Never underestimate the opposition.
@@TheImperatorKnight a man fights for what he lacks.) You and I fight for money, they fight for attention. That's the difference. They themselves might be big forces to be recognized but their rhetoric is too far from reality and logical assessment to be contend with in that kind of a breath. They have lost the war on the paper for 100 years now, their only way is now quite literally sheer brute force.
@@TheImperatorKnight Tik, to address your last point on Adam and Eve: the forbidden fruit was not eaten to gain mere knowledge, according to the story. Within, the snake tempts them with the notion that if they eat of the fruit, they will become like gods, “knowing good and evil” (Gen. 3:5).
When the full context is read, it is understood that gaining knowledge was more of a secondary goal for the subjects in the story (presumably, they would’ve been able to gain knowledge through observational means). Rather, they were motivated by greed to become gods themselves. This, in effect, betrayed the Creator’s natural order.
@@t700eThe Creator must be a nasty greedy god then....he keeps Adam and Eve from fully realising themselves, probably for his own selfish needs.
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Damn I just reinvented Gnosticism.
@@dwwolf4636 How can created beings “fully realize” themselves as gods? That makes no sense. Plus, why would God need for anything? What would it gain God to create man, knowing that man would decide to “fully realize” themselves?
However, it’s interesting how pervasive gnostic ideology can be. It pulls on humanity’s own curiosity, arrogance and selfishness, twisting truth into narratives we want to hear.
@TIKhistory I watched your video a few hours ago and I have been thinking about it. I grew up middle class in the US and taught that hard work and education will bring success. All of my friends were taught the same. It has worked for me. I grew up in a rural area with mostly middle/middle lower class and we all believed that hard work would bring success. I knew 0 socialist as a child. The only time that I have met people who stated they were socialists were in college and while volunteering with my non-profit group. The only socialists I have ever met in the US have all been college educated. I grew up with a bunch of friends who could not afford college and worked blue collared jobs who became very successful with their own businesses. I also sailed on cargo ships all around the world for a number of years and the one thing that struck me was the concept of social class, especially in western Europe. (I met a large number of socialist in western Europe.) In the US most are taught that class is temporary and can be changed with with hard work. I spend a year sailing out of the same town in southern England. The one thing that struck me was the class system of England. (I know that England as well as the rest of Europe has more "old money" so moving up the class scale is more difficult than the US. I noticed that more people thought of class as family based and one was born into it. I met a large number of people who just assumed that they would just do what their parents did. It was almost like they accepted that fact that they could not change social class and it was kind of depressing talking to them. I did not understand this classism. I asked why cant they just change their status but I was told that this is the way it is. (I was dismissed as not understanding because I was a "Yank". ) I kind of think that this accepted classism leads to people being socialist. Its almost like people are subdued by classism thus leading them to socialism. This is just my thoughts as an American sailing cargo ships out of a small town in the UK so maybe my thoughts are way off. Thank you for posting the video. It really go me thinking.
what I have always been told as a child/youngster, there, deep in the valley : work can not make you rich or successfull. -That's central Europe and tradtional catholic. Hard work will not bring sucess, only theft and cheating do. And educated people are bad people and live of working peoples sweat, because only the work of ones hands is work and honourfull well, I went to University never the less. First, but not last in my wider family.
spot on
I have been think of this more and people who consider themselves socialist may also be more communal based meaning they like to work out problems in groups. This may be why socialists have a tendency to be from more densely populated areas like urban areas and colleges. People from rural areas have a tendency to be more individualist because they have to deal with stuff on their own thus making them more conservative. I think left and right is also a result the population density of ones home. I live on a the top of a mountain in West Virginia. I have friends of both left and right because I live very close to Washington DC. I have know quite of a few very liberal (bordering) on socialists become more conservative after a hard winter on the mountain for example. I have also had a number of my rural friends become more conservative when they move to the city. I do not really see someone become more liberal when in country or more conservative when moving to city. This is just my observation and I could be totally wrong.
@@aasphaltmueller5178 You are right about that. I have been to rural parts of Germany for my job and noticed that. Hamburg was different.
You are right on the money. I am socialist, hate me or whatver i don't care. But i really love TIK videos and i listen to what he has to say. Unfortunately no matter how much he says socialism is bad i just can't stand behind current version of capitalism. It's too predatory in my opinion and i am sure that many people on the right wing would agree with that. I just want the world in which corpos are not influential to the point they influence politics against the poor. I want poor people to have chance to be somebody and people not being born into high class because of the blood. This is archaic. I want to work for my own money, and not having to spend it in monopoly infested Amazon world. Because it's the only cheap option. I want to spend money on local businesses. I want communities not being parachuted by big organizations and living by their rules. Because they own the land, building or whatnot. But if what we currently have is good for you, then ok! You can't please everyone that's for sure. Let's just make sure that one day we won't live by the standrds of big corporations having our entire life predestined. Too far right is not good as well! Peace.
Don't give up brother, I look forward to all of your videos! You teach rings around professional educators!! Thank you! Please don't quit.
My friend you are making a HUGE work with your videos. Extraordinary work, really. It's not going to be easy, but it's necessary. Keep doing what you do.
Hugs from Perú, SouthAmerica.
I really like the way you tackle all these subjects. Diving into tons of books and other sources, rationally looking for the truth and a better understanding of history. Better yet, after you gain all this knowledge, you structure it and try to explain all of what you learned into concise and well produced content. So not only are you trying to better yourself, you are also helping others to do the same. Who could be against this?
Keep up the good work TIK. You are on the right track.
Your videos and the style in which you present them is outstanding. Preaching to the choir is not a small thing. The entire academic world is trying to take away the choir, and just holding the choir is already an achievement. Good luck! And if you manage to win over a few more minds, that is above and beyond. Good luck!
Tik, I love your channel. Never defend yourself if they call you a Nazi, racist etc. It puts you on the back foot. You have nothing to apologize for.
Just call them an ignorant statist, which they are if they claim a 'non-conservative capitalist' is a nazi.
Name calling is all they have🤷🏻♂️
@@1312JohnnySome lefties called me Nazi on the net because of I said They're delussinal about economic relationships.İt's obvious that I'm not white race.These people are sick.
Tik, I disagree with you on a few things. Some of them are relatively important. But you think about these things and discuss them honestly. That's why I like you. There is no "one way" of organizing the entire planet from the family or community level to global trade. There are many points to make across many different cultures and values. It's always easy to find places where we agree completely and because of your style I can imagine it's all in a live conversation in a pub. That's plain brilliant, and I do appreciate all you do. Even the stuff about tanks.
I don't mind people disagreeing with interpretations, and I encourage that, so long as everyone is civil and trying to get to the truth. Fine, I get things wrong from time to time (like yesterday's video which wasn't great) but my intention is always to get to the truth, and you can't do that any other way than by having an open and honest discussion.
However, when it comes to throwing out the facts and evidence just because it hurts feelings, and then insults start flying around, that's where I draw the line. And unfortunately, there's so many people in my comments sections who are screaming at me and firing off a million accusations, saying I never respond to them, or am "insane" and so on... it's just depressing.
@@TheImperatorKnight Yes, and thank you for it. I don't care if it's tanks or banks or guys named Frank there's a pleasant and useful way of talking about things which matter in this world without making it all personal.
@@TheImperatorKnight Take a break TIK! I doubt you'll find nuanced discussion in the comments section so you're better off getting some fresh air instead. Taking breaks is important for long term sanity :)
@@TheImperatorKnight and as a bit of an escapist literary legend, in contrast to Orwell, I think quoting JRR Tolkien is a good step towards understanding both sides of the story.
Lewis, shoutout to you, I'm 19 and live currently in iran and were studying myself to the limit to get a university scholarship and now finally I'm going to soon get free of the chains of new shades of national socialism in the 21st century, your stalingrad series was a pillar that kept me alive during this ordeal.
"Not all those who wander are lost."
_Gandalf to Frodo.
"Men of the mark don't lie, therefore they aren't easily deceived."
_Eomer Eadig to Aragorn
The nature of groups and collectives is much more basic than its function, groups are nearly unanimously the same in the ways they function towards forces outside or inside them. I have lived my entire life in one of the most enclosed dogmatic ones, the persian one. There is an at least 6000 years long legacy of every aspect of the life of any persian individual being a part of the group. From the fear based religions and shame based family functions.
I live in hell.
And yes, the majority of the people who live in this dystopia of a society are essentially what you describe as a benevolent leftist person of the best wills.
But the matter is
The group has an energy
And energies of enclosed systems neither die nor do they come into being, they just change the face.
The "bad" ones on the left or any other grand narrative group are also always the tip of the iceberg.
But there IS the iceberg. And it's ugly.
And that's how you went from a good law abiding police officer in the 30s to a murderous bloodthirsty hitman who kills pregnant polish women for not having given up their monthly milk proportion.
Lewis
The group is evil
The individual is evil
Just like infaltion, the fact that its "aspects and results" are not that quickly seen or observed doesn't mean they don't exist.
@@TheImperatorKnight they are evil.
The matter is the measures you need to take to have them go on to the brink of doing actual evil is generally high when they all have a flat-screen tv and a smartphone.
They still are mobs of knobs. They are simply not angry enough to simply do it.
Your videos are incredibly eye opening and informative. The one you did on the Soviet economy and GDP was amazing; everyone else just argues about the Soviets' self-reported numbers; you did the actual work. It reminded me of the Foundation series of Asimov where the researcher just looks at secondary sources and doesn't dig into real data. You also accomplished something I can't do myself by buying more books from amazon. I thank you and respect your work.
Hi Tik! To me, this a truly moving video.
Still, I would encourage you to not be frustrated after all. I think your economics and politics videos provide highly relevant insights into the history of the last hundred or so years and are MUCH more digestible to the casual viewer than any book might ever be. That is a huge achievement and will be a tremendous legacy. And given the Internet's possibilities, it might be around for thousands of years. If humanity might ultimately prove to have the cognitive potential to come to terms with its issues and move into a bright(er) future, I am sure that your work will prove to be invaluable as you helped tieing such a huge number of open ends in some essential spots.
However, I personally would ask and encourage you to find a way to "move on" from the verbal fire your critics are directing at you: I strongly believe you should not suffer from the knowledge you acquired and shared so bravely but rather bring its potential to bear, eventually reaping any benefits. Therefore, please do not let your critics tie you down in a debate where your opponent can and will negate any of your successes by not complying to reason with impunity. I cannot imagine that this is anything but a waste of your precious time. (Somehow I figure some of the historians and economists whose works you keep on citing seem to have been in a similar position. What did they do? Some of them seem to really have moved on from what surely must have been similarly disheartening experiences.)
Also, I don't think it is appropriate to keep on attempting to persuade those who actively refuse beyond reason. Instead, once you have certainly fulfilled your duty to give everyone an honest opportunity to debate the subject and to learn and develop their knowledge and world view, I kind of think that it is not only reasonable, but also your ultimate duty to leave behind all those who still are evidently not interested in accepting facts even despite overwhelming evidence. (Some will figure it out sooner or later, others won't. Why bother? I wouldn't think that an individual is to blame for the group failing, ultimately letting down all the group thinkers, but I might be mistaken.)
Humanity does not evolve if the most curious don't leave the cave until the least curious are leaving, too.
PS: Please also realize that what you do and did has afaik never been done before with such clarity to such a huge and diverse audience on a unified platform, thus certainly bringing an unimaginable number of world views and biases to the table. While it certainly speaks volumes about your work ethics and what crazy high standards you seem to impose upon yourself, I guess you really shouldn't focus on the summit you might have not reached yet, but rather give yourself the well deserved praise for any step you move upwards on a maddeningly undesirable route that I tend to think no one has ever gone before.
Could you please say more about what you mean by: Humanity does not evolve if the most curious don't leave the cave until the least curious are leaving, too.
@@yousuck785why I was kind of referring to the so-called 'Allegory of the cave' by Greek philosopher Plato.
Bottom line, I think, is: While some people will put a lot of effort into discovering more insights and developing a deeper understanding which might in turn change their whole world view (in the allegory this means "leaving the cave"), others will do anything in their power to prevent any additional (and truthful) knowledge from altering their (comfortable yet more fictitious) perception of the world and therefore will never "leave the cave" voluntarily.
Thus, since there will always be someone around who is opposed to changing his perception of reality despite prospects of a more truthful picture, there wouldn't be any discovery at all if others wouldn't just start discovering regardless.
Don't give up doing what you are doing,i find your videos absolutely brilliant and so easy to understand unlike some other history channels. You cannot teach those that are no longer teachable, but you can teach someone like me because I do want to learn and understand. Thank you.
Take heart, TIK. Even when some people malign you, it's possible you're still having a good influence on them. Sometimes a planted seed takes a long time to bear fruit. You're doing more good than you realize. I know it's hard; take care of yourself, act with virtue, and remember that it is other people's responsibility to listen. So long as you are acting with virtue - and you are; you are very respectful of the other side - then you bear no blame for other's failure to listen. Focus instead on those who do, celebrate those victories, and keep moving forward. God bless!
The problem with our system is that the "poor", well actually the working and middle-class are over-taxed and tax benefits (or evasion strategies) are mostly for the (ultra-) "rich". The top 1% have benefited very much financially from the pandemic, whereas the average person had reduced earnings plus being hit by price-rises.
So basically
The problem is the state
Yes, because QE has inflated asset prices.
Who started the QE?
Ah yes, the State
@Wulf Yes indeed, but we can dull the weapon, reduce the state, cut taxes
@Wulf preface: I have no problem with you personally. This is just my perspective and opinion.
the problem with this is that people are naturally drawn to personal gain rather than collective gain. You can argue for collective gain for clans such as family but that’s more personal than for the public.
I don’t have a problem with you viewing our current society as an aristocracy. I agree. Much of the richest people in society are in an elite. However the top of society are not purely capitalist. Companies have shares and most are opened to the public through stock market etc. Though the main problem is that the existence of these aristocracy business are the result of state control of currency and trade being controlled by the state declared currency. I wouldn’t consider that based on free market principles.
On a personal note. I am still a little unsure of whether collectivism and state is good or bad. I’ve heard the argument about “state bad” but right now I’m still a little on the fence Cus I haven’t seen a reliable solution.
Lewis keep it going mate …your arguments that you discuss on the Eastern front ,Stalingrad etc , etc , along with debates such as this are very interesting ,and pure and simply make great watching ,all this stuff with those that cant except what ever it is ...to be honest mate are better off going away which will only leave the ones that are truly dedicated to you and your channel ,please don't give up as your doing a fab job.
I would like you to do a series perhaps on tv covering battles …will you still do Italy ? Burma perhaps ,Japans war with China !!
Oh and all these numpties who are Russian who to some extent must have voted in Putin ,well clearly have not understood one bit have they ?
Keep going Lewis ,your awesome !!
Keep up the good work TIK. Genuinely well researched history videos are hard to come by and yours is some of the best. Dont get disheartened - the truth filters through eventually
incidentally the fruit gives them not just "knowledge" like reading from a book, but also the urge to commit evil including sins such as lazyness, gluttony etc. The story makes more sense when you realise that.
I've experienced the same reactions when debating climate change denialists. When you clearly address one argument they will skip to another topic, then another.
It's a common tactic for people who haven't done any serious reading or research on a topic and rely entirely on an emotional argument to win. When you see them doing this, you've already hit the point of no return, which is frustrating because a lot of them apply this tactic straight away.
@@TheImperatorKnight I soon realised the deniers would not/could not change their opinions in response to evidence, so became curious to see how far they would pursue their lines of argument. Usually they'd either they'd drop out when things became untenable/unwieldy, or we'd reach a point where their bad faith was laid bare. I learned a lot about human psychology, logical fallacies, the dialectical process and climate science.
My feeling bad about an exchange usually meant that I'd naively thought the person was open to seeing reason, OR that my own arguments weren't solid and I need to re-examine them.
Love your channel BTW.
Most climate change denialists are those who force people in renewable energies and plants without making a head. I talked to one who really believes that climate change only occured because humans are evil and therefore changed the climate due to the humankind's evil behaviour. It's like talking to someone who believes in the Bible and the creation through God that there was no climate change before. And instead of realising how they deny climate change they want to make climate a handmade thing.
@@TheImperatorKnight absolutely. Especially when it comes to people who believe in the Lost Cause. Holy cow do they love to change topic or flat out deny the facts.
@@TheImperatorKnight you asked about what happened in the Garden of Eden.. you see God always wants to give the freedom to choose, even on whether to have the knowledge of good and evil He has given it as a choice.
The snake was indeed Satan and he lives up to his name for he is a tester.
Why did God forbid it? Because to have the knowledge of good and evil meant man will answer for his acts. Whereas before he was in a state of innocence..
Being in flesh fraught with weakness man will fall into sin inevitably and "the wages of sin is death".
I simply love your work. Take some rest every now and then, but know this: - you are GREAT!
When I first became interested in politics, I was a communist at 13, a socialist at 14, and a social democrat (although I wouldn't have labelled myself as such at the time) at 15. As you can see, it was a slow rightward drift. It wasn't until I reached age 16 that I started experimenting with right-wing ideas. Most of the words that ThisGuy ascribed to leftists _absolutely_ applied to me during my time as a leftist.
You’re still young. I was exactly the same then I came full circle. I went from a socialist in my early teens after listening to what my mum would tell me, from about 15-18 I was a full on classic liberal capitalist and from about 19 until now in my early 20s I’ve came full circle back to socialism after seeing what the real world is truly like.
Dude get a girlfriend. Jesus christ...
same, but i’m becoming a lil more left again
@@googletranslate6726 did a weird one, went from being liberal (whatever that means as a kid) religious in my childhood to non religious classical liberal around 16 to a reactionary edge lord a year after, to full on socialist from 18-20 or so, to an apolitical highly religious person.
I flipped around so hard and understood the world from so many different angles that i found that political ideologies hardly encompass, on either side the real questions and problems I had with the world, so I don't necessarily bother with it anymore. It kind of seems moot to me
Tik I’m really, really, really glad you recognised you where burning yourself out. Taking it easier or having time off is a great plan. Your body of work is absolutely magnificent in detail, volume and quality. Thank you
The end state of capitalism is hopefully everything becoming so cheap that even a poor man can afford a solid gold Toilet! And yes NetworkFail is a mess, I work for them and nothing they do make sense.
The problem is that people aren't looking for the cheap gold toilet (capitalism could actually strive to provide it) in capitalist countries even the poorest homeless are fat.
They are looking for meaning in their political ideology after discarding the role of religion to provide it. Can't find meaning in material wealth because it's not there.
Thank you for putting yourself out there and not giving up, we all deserve breaks so no worries on burnout. While listening to you I was reminded of a quote I have found incredibly relevant to life in general. Here it is misquoted with no sauce: "A different perspective is often more valuable than the right answer, especially if you already have the right answer." Through my life I have had the right answer many times, and learned a lot by listening to another perspective. As I've grown, learned, experienced life... my right answer has changed just as TIKHistory admits he is an exsocialist. Thank you again.
As a bleeding heart liberal I don't watch your program for political content, I watch it because your research and presentation is xlnt. Keep up the good work, don't let the ignorant get under your skin, too many of them.
If you were a real liberal u wouldn’t watch him cuz you’d know everything he says is lies and not backed up by anything & is just alt right propaganda
"TIK doesn't like socialism, and said Hitler was a socialist, so he must love Hitler!"
They might not be stupid as a rule, but some of them definitely are, and the ideology they're possessed by sure is.
When you made your "Hitler is a socialist" video, that blew my mind. Suddenly this all made SO much sense!
Look up the strasserite purge dog, Hitler wasn't by any metric a socialist
@@n00bcreeper45 Ah, it begins
@@majorproblem8796 hello, based department, I'd like to file a claim
Laughed when you mentioned the game that was just like work. I have friends who are always trying to get me to join their multi-player games. I look into it and invariably the games are always economic resource management type games. Which happens to be exactly what I do all day long. How is that fun or relaxing?
Because you can win.
@@noneyaratman714 I think there is some tremendous irony. The people I met on MMO's were some of the most brilliant people I've met, with the most degenerate attitude towards life. Granted, They had some pretty dogshit situations, most people in the west could put that same effort into learning skills "irl" and actually getting shit. They just think they're worthless and write themselves off to MMO's and isolate from society.
I'm a recovering wanna-be revolutionary who right now is struggling to find the right badge for myself, i still support such things as the NHS, the welfare state, Social housing and Free emergency services however im looking at my former tribe and honestly it makes me sick to listen to many of them, when they proclaim that looting is good as it redistributes wealth, despite the fact that often times its small businesses that bear the brunt of the looting, when they push notions that if someone breaks into your house you should cooperate with the intruder, that a Hispanic teenager is a racist because he tried to stop mostly white rioters from burning down a mostly black area and when attacked by a child predator he defended himself, and then what happens this predator is being hailed as a martyr for "social justice"
i apologise for the long rant, had to get it off my chest, keep up the good work and TWO videos in a week? you are spoiling us comrade
I've been there. It takes time to start challenging your sacred cows and it's not as though your thoughts on matters will always be 100 % consistent (reality is bumpy). Still kudos for challenging your views.
@@alankeyes8267 well its either challenge my views or deny reality and i have come to the conclusion that to deny reality is too dangerous and the price of it not one im willing to pay, if that means occasionally admitting im wrong and changing my views as new evidence is presented, then thats the trade off.
@@bigmanfoamy4589 First thing, do not feel like you need to badge yourself. Second, this is advice I gave my own son, listen to multiple views and decide for yourself what makes the most sense. Do not assume to be an expert on any topic and listen to people as if they may know something that you do not. Lastly, take a look at said views and apply them to your life and ask yourself if it made life better for you or the people you care about.
Looking at one’s own assumptions about the world is absolutely one of the hardest things to do. I see this video is a couple of years old and you may have addressed this already. Sometimes describing your own progression through ideas and why you thought what you thought before can be helpful. I love your channel and always enjoy watching your videos.
Yes, I've actually watched this three times now.. It's very interesting, yet kind of uncomfortable watching him explain the thought process.
Glad he did this.
Thank you for trying to help people be mature and understand a perspective that differs from their own. At least in US I fear we are too far gone for this to work but thank you for your efforts.
I can confirm, I wasn't always a capitalist either and it was purely by chance because I was really interested in learning things that I eventually jumped ship. The problem is that collectivist ideologies are very subversive so they convince you by twisting the beliefs you already have by redefining words etc. this is why it's very difficult for them to change their minds. The biggest thing that made a difference for me was really understanding the dichotomy of individualism vs. collectivism and since I'm an Englishman I'm naturally, culturally individualistic and it helped me to see through a lot of stuff and correct my own beliefs. Collectivism is absolutely irreconcilable with the things MLK said in his "I have a dream" speech, for example, and it wasn't long before my entire worldview changed.
That's a fantastic point! Thank you, and also I'm glad I'm not the only one who's an ex-Lefty
So just what exactly is collectivism? I can easily argue that any democratically-elected government is a form of collectivism. A town government is even more collective. Any military or sports team will spend a huge amount of time to hammer home to its members that they are part of a collective.
@@TheImperatorKnight what is your opinion on the Frankfur (is that right?)? Are they secret Marxist who have subverted "the west"?
The seduction often starts from an individualistic argument. People who, for one reason or another, feel estranged from those around them are appealed to via those very qualities that make them unique and feel separated from (and sometimes even persecuted by) others. And in order to survive/be represented you need to ban together with people with similar characteristics/experiences. It's at this point that all nuance of individuals are abandoned and everyone is lumped according to group identity and treated as if they all agree on everything. If an individual disagrees then they somehow not really part of the group identity even if said identity is based on objective, immutable characteristics.
@@dirremoire ua-cam.com/video/vFh6Yy-rIB8/v-deo.html Sargon covered it pretty well a number of years ago. It's an _ISM_ so it's about ideology, not just any collective; you could argue that a sports team is collectivist in the sense that they hold the goal of the group (winning the game) more important than any individual member if they have any ideas that run contrary to that I guess, but the point I'm trying to make is that collective=/=collectivism. Likewise a government isn't a form of collectivism but you can make a good argument that the ideologies/philosophies that support them are which is basically what Ancaps like Rothbard argue. Even Mises conceded that the state is necessarily a system of compulsion and coercion but he thought they were a necessary evil (not a quote, that's my interpretation of him).
I may be a year late on this comment, but as much as you may not be getting through to the Left, you're giving much more confidence and solid information to those who trust your word. You take your readings and compress them into concise, understandable segments so that truth can be spread more easily amongst regular people- those who don't have time to read hundreds of in-depth analysis. Props to you mate, your work is appreciated by those willing to listen
Getting through doing what? I have no doubt he's being accurate describing a certain culture in the UK, I know they call themselves "left", but it has f- all to do with actual socialism (whatever flavour), Lenin, or anything else. It's a horrendous strawman misrepresentation, which every actual left-leaning person (or one at all familiar with that) recognises as such. He also ignores the UK-specific context that gave rise to this faux-left worldview, which is essentially a reaction to historically extreme class-based stratification in UK society, ie the opposite of a capitalist competition-based meritocracy. It's just not a good faith argument and it's obvious. Classical Marxism was conceived in an age of need and deprivation, an age where to be productive one needed an owner of the means of production to permit one to work; we are long past this stage in the Western industrialised and post-industrial world, which runs a great surplus. You can therefore come up with an infinite number of criticisms against trying to apply it to the modern day without making sh-t up.
@@paulie-g Well said
@@paulie-g left always advocates for greater government control, greater taxes, over-regulation. The UK left is no different which is why I and a number of my partners moved our businesses out of the UK and ultimately left the country. The increasing taxes and regulation in the last twenty years have made running an enterprise - the only serious way to gain both financial and personal independence - increasingly difficult.
The standard of policing, schooling and general culture in the UK is he way it is because of too much government and too much oversight, not too little. Unlike most people in the UK I've lived in multiple jurisdictions, both around Europe and outside the EU and people's complacency and ignorance in the UK always shocks me.
@@JoBlakeLisbon How is that related to my comment? He made a silly strawman and set it on fire.
Incidentally, the "right" in the UK is just as bad in terms of regulation, and I would consider Blairite Labour to be centre-right. The "small gov't right" is a fringe movement at best in the UK. Fundamentally, all modern administrative states are inevitably over-regulated because bureaucracy never shrinks and legislatures think they ought to legislate so their pay packets and expenses seem justifiable, regardless of political leaning. This is not an "ought" statement, it is an "is" statement btw.
As an aside, point me to a "small gov't" success story in 2023. Preferably one that doesn't have crumbling infra, terrible quality of life and subsidised sprawl. Biggest success stories of the last few decades have all been dirigiste. Again, not an "ought", but an "is".
@@JoBlakeLisbonI'm not British so I don't know rest of those but I have to object on the left advocating for greater taxation, while the North Korea itself, which should be the gold standard of leftism, at least according to Austrians, has removed all other taxes except sales taxes, which does not play onto that argument.
Though how I would say if something is either left-wing or right-wing culturally, is the concept of birthright. The leftists generally oppose inheriting basically anything, even power (though here comes the funny case, Cuba and North Korea contest this claim a bit, but Soviet Union doesn't), while the right-wing claims that people deserve to have a birthright to a leadership of an organization of any kind, whether that be a company or a polity, regardless of their competency.
You've helped me to understand your perspective. I was basically a socialist without realizing it. Many of those who dismiss you are simply not ready to even hear your perspective. Some times information like yours will leave a nagging doubt that will start a chain reaction. Some people will never change. So, thank you for your videos. I truly enjoy listening.
@UTubeFekUrself imagine democratically organizing the economy, nah nah, we only want a small amount of rich people to make decisions for the whole.
@@ssik9460 Your fallacy is you think an economy can be effectively organised.
It can't.
No group of people, or computers, are that smart
@@juliantheapostate8295 versus what? That capitalism Unrestrained works?
Libertarian concepts around capitalism that man is inherently noble and does not need laws has been repeatedly shown to be bs as well
The problem with this is people who equate any social program as socialism
@@angusalba I think the libertarian concepts regarding economics are simply that you are entitled to the distribution and cost of your own labor, not anything regarding nobility or altruism.
The basic idea is that people are greedy enough that they will volunteer to fill gaps in the economy when they appear. It isn't a perfect system, but what is?
@@ssik9460 Imagine thinking that putting in a number of bearaucrats to dictate what you can and can't do is more democratic than letting people decide *for themselves* what they're willing to buy, for how much, what they're willing to sell, for how much, and where they're willing to work, for how much. Capatalist organizations do have kings (they don't have to), but the market is democratic. Every hour you work every dollar you spend is a vote.
Thank you for your effort to shed light on a very turbulent time in our history. Take pride on the effort you use to present the truth about these times. We do not have many people from that time to explain them selves. I and many others look forward to your weekly Utube presentations. To have your work be accepted by everyone is a great goal but not likely to happen, so be proud of your product. You may stimulate someone younger than you to also dig at the records and add to the understanding the world has of that time and stimulate others to not go in that direction. The fact that the earth is round and a pretty close estimate of its diameter was known by Ancient Egyptians but not commonly accepted for a couple of thousand years. And rumor has it that there are still some who still don't. Good Job TIK
A point of encouragement:
Keep in mind that for every person who say you are stupid, there are the fence sitters who go "huh, I hadn't thought about that"
My view on corporations changed watching your videos. You explanations made me go "hey, he's right, corporatism isn't capitalism"
I had known for a while that Social Democracy isn't capitalistic, it's actually mercantilist for those who care, but it never clicked how corporations play into it.
What's the difference between capitalism/free markets and mercantilism? I am for free markets but I'm not familiar with the term mercantilism.
@@SergioKoolhaas
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism
I tend to call modern Social Democracies Neo-Mercantilistic, because they have changed a lot since the older times. But, there's still a high level of regulation, which tend to be for the benefit of the state, rather than the people.
You have probably heard people claim that the British Empire was capitalist, because it was private companies that did everything. Like the East India Company.
The issue is that the East India company had a royal mandate to work on behalf of the empire. Nobody else were allowed to trade with India.
Thus they had a monopoly.
For instance many cities and courtiers have regulation on who can drive taxies - demanding a test in order to get a license - and how many can get a license. The argument is that it will improve the quality of the taxies, or retain some image. London Black Cabs is an example.
Thus government will try to crack down on alternatives, like minicabs or Uber. Even though these provide a service people WANT for a cheaper price.
This is very similar to the old guild systems in Europe. Were guilds within certain industries controlled who could make what, and sell to whom. A town didn't need two blacksmiths after all.
@@SergioKoolhaasMercantilism is essentially an economic doctrine which consists of producing everything you can to try and be self sufficient, and export as much as possible while importing as little as possible
How is social democracy mercantilistic ?
It's in essence patched up capitalism with social programs and regulations.
@@Spido68_the_spectator isn't that basically a form of autarky?
Your videos can't make them start down the path of questioning their reality, you already know this. What your videos can do is be there for them once the do start questioning. That is what makes the work you put in so valuable.
Don't assume you aren't getting through to anyone. I was a Bernie Sanders fan out of high school in 2016 and over the last six years have pulled a complete 180 and am now an Austrian-libertarian on a bitcoin standard. You were a big part of the learning that led me down the road to where I am today. There are socialists that are willing to face arguments that challenge their world view, like you and I. The videos you make are valuable to society, I don't want you to think it's a big waste of time. What you're doing now is CERTAINLY more important than what you'd be providing back in that old retail job!
Thank you, and I'm glad to hear I got through to you! What was the thing that helped you see the light? Also, I'm sure you have some gold and silver too, right?
@@TheImperatorKnight I don't know if there is a single video that can be said to have 'shown me the light' but it was more a combination of multiple factors. Books and articles I've read, conversations I've had, videos like yours that I've watched.
I want to make the point that changing one's viewpoint on something is usually not an instantaneous process. It might be faster for someone open-minded like yourself, but most people are not open-minded. I think for most it probably takes years of education and internal debate. So it isn't worth getting frustrated by the dismissals of fully entrenched socialist or communist people because they aren't going to change their world view from one video unless they are exceptionally open minded. What you'd be doing instead is planting a seed of doubt into their heads that might not grow for years. And they definitely aren't going to thank you for that after the video. Instead they may insult or dismiss you because they are threatened by your argument. This is a good thing and probably more a sign of success than failure.
I think your videos provide different things depending on where people stand in the gradual process of internal debate. A communist might get that seed of doubt, someone on the fence might decide to read Economics in One Lesson and get to the bottom of things, someone in the choir might expand their knowledge further.
As for gold and silver, after a lot of thought I decided I didn't need to store my wealth in anything other than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the only finitely scarce medium of exchange that has ever existed (21 million total supply). The supply of silver doubles every 22 years and gold every 59 years or so. Bitcoin's supply will never double again. In my opinion this just makes it pointless to store my wealth anywhere else. There's more to it than that but that's the most important part.
Hey TIK,
some thoughts on this:
It is really nice to see you think so much about these political things, as it appears there are two bubbles trying to pull you in in society mostly, left and right, but you don't have to agree with either in fact. It is always the right path to gain knowledge about the topics and building your own opinion. I wish others would put in a fraction of your effort.
I think the biggest problem is, that people work 8,9,10 hours, sometimes 6 days a week, and then don't have either the motivation or mental capacities left to think about these heavy topics, they are just exhausted. And to be honest, there is not much incentive to people to inform themselves sometimes, depending on your social environment, your education, etc.
Additionally, you may talk about definitions of socialism and capitalism, BUT not everyone uses those same definitions or even knows them. In the end, people like to turn things in their head to what they would like them to be. Or simply have not gone too far into the matter, but generally agree more with one set of ideas than the other. And they must not be evil to do that. Most people in fact simply want the best for others and themselves. The problem lies in that they come to different conclusions. And many have their reasons that make sense to them personally. The world is not black and white, it is many shades of grey, as it is said.
To me for example, there are some ideas from both left and right, being good ideas that make sense to me. One can't simply say "no these ideas stem from that direction, they absolutely MUST be wrong", the truth for what works best lies in the middle in between those different ways of thinking.
The only way to make other people listen to you, is to not call them out as idiots immediately, but trying to understand how they think and be willing to talk it out. Many people simply don't have the attention span to listen to or read everything you say however. If people want to be ignorant, they will be ignorant no matter what you do. I think everyones fear is to have their whole world view shaken from ground up, because it requires such a lot of effort to build it back up, and one would have to rethink their past decisions too. And acknowledging you maybe did a big mistake in the past or were wrong on a big topic is difficult to almost everyone.
I have always thought you are leaning a bit to the right side, as I felt you bash the "left" a bit more than the "right", but it is great to have an explanation on why you think so.
Another problem is, that a whole countries economy and a way to organize the millions or billions of people in a single country is not as easy as a few definitions. One person can not understand everything perfectly, and always react correctly at the right time, and what even is the best way to act. So, many people with different ways of thinking have to work together.
Most people do not want anything bad or evil happening to their country, they just have limited options up for the vote and no one will have EXACTLY the same opinion as someone else does.
I would sure like to hear your thoughts on this, even if this is just some very general stuff I said. Thank you for all your efforts in the quest to find the actual truth!
TIK is a self described right winger so clearly you haven't been paying attention to what he says, or you don't know him as well as you think you do.
"Additionally, you may talk about definitions of socialism and capitalism, BUT not everyone uses those same definitions or even knows them"
TIKs drawn the line on this issue multiple times, the only appropriate source to list here is the Oxford Dictionary.
"you bash the "left" a bit more than the "right""
I've never heard him bash the right have you?
"Most people in fact simply want the best for others and themselves."
Milton friedman once said something about how you shouldn't take the will for the deed.
" their country"
It's not your country or their country and it never will be sorry.
"So, many people with different ways of thinking have to work together. "
Don't beat around the bush what exactly are you saying? There is already a mechanism that allows for millions of people who have different views and values to work with one another and it's called the free market.
Hi TIK
You must draw a line in the sand and not cross it for your own sanity. Your videos are great with all the references etc Sometimes I disagree but it is not a mountain worth fighting for. You will never convince everyone and many of thesee shit sstirrers are just that. They bait you don' always take the bait.
I am more left leaning than right, degree plus with many many books including some on your lists. I have dropped books that I thought were good but then found big holes by further reading.
You will not get everyone to see your point of view no matter how many breakdowns you have. Stay sane & healthy remember the line in the sand and ignore the ones who just bait you. Don't bite.. Some will never accept you view. let then go.
Concentrate fon the good shows you do and the education you give us. & thanks for your good work.
Mike M Australia
It's not about "the left" vs "the right".. it's more about authoritarians vs anti-authoritarians, or collectivists vs free-thinkers. I grew up in the 1980's communist totalitarian Romania, i know very well what life under tyranny means. It's mind-boggling to me that so many westerners that never lived under communism, want communism.. and are lecturing me about the wonders of socialism. Their level of arrogance, ignorance and condescension is off the charts.
Thanks for the video TIK. I’ve watched you for about 2 years. I’m an ex socialist and I am an ex-cult leader. I’ve found your videos great. Reach out if you ever need someone to chat to.
Also, one thing to remember is that when you leave a cult, there are lots of people looking at you (or even deriding you) but actually wish they could show the courage you showed in getting out. Stay strong brother 💪🏻
Ah yes, the classic “Mises was a Nazi” “argument”
If I was a Nazi, I would for sure flee Nazi germany
Oh, but in two sentences out of a chapter in one of his books where he was taking fascism to task, he said that fascism (in 1927, so Italian and Austrian Fascism, not Nazism) wasn't as bad as the Russian Bolsheviks, so that proves that he's defending fascism.
And yes, that's a genuine argument that one of my critics (the one with 20k subs) has given as a way to dismiss my point that Karl Marx was anti-semitic.
@@TheImperatorKnight I’ve seen many a leftist “Mises fascism” meme of one of about two pictures of Mises which can be slightly stern looking when saturation is minimized, with those two sentences with ellipses on both ends
Please don’t stop tik. I’ve been watching your videos for over a year, probably going on closer to three and I’m just now over the last couple weeks starting to understand what you’ve been saying. You’ve helped me tremendously with my understanding of history and politics. Even if I’ve always been on the right I now know why I’m on the right and that is so important. You and the amount of work you put in SRE IMPORTANT. Please don’t stop, you’ve given me and so many others of all political leanings a new perspective in, to me, a totally original way. I’ve never heard anyone speak like you and I truly believe you will and have gotten through to people.
Both left and right have their own amounts of ignorant people. Especially in the US. It's our job to be the GOOD example of what we believe in. The people who attack each other over opinions will never change.
Yep, iam more on the right, but that dosent mean i agree with every conservative or right leaning talking point, views and so on.
I often agree with left leaning things, but not the way they want achieve these thing.
Nowdays you are either with or against us, there is little to no inbetween or looking at things from a different perspective.
Will be realy tough to work with that in the US and Europe.
@@henriklarssen1331 Preach. I wish compromise still existed.
Never assume incompetence, when malice will suffice
Best argument I've heard for being a rational pragmatist, we as a society have dumbed down ourselves. We've indoctrinated to approach issues from a emotional/ subjective perspective rather than a factual/objective perspective, time constraints+ day to day stress make that difficult to shed that program, which is further reinforced by our education systems (need to provide fast/incomplete desired answers) , media, entertainment; laugh tracks , do we need to be prompted to recognize what is funny or sad.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
The road to hell is paved by government contractors overcharging the government and giving half of it back to corrupt politicians. And then skimping on the materials , since almost all of us are going to hell look for the pot holes if you think I’m wrong.
@@philvanderlaan5942 aka socialism. UK, USA (except most red states) , EU are socialist shitholes, I lived in China as a government financial supervisor; their good infrastructure is all privatised and private shareholders owned. Sure we can blame contractors for procurement corruption but without the socialist lollies and incentives these corporations and overcharging traders wouldn't have a monopoly at all and couldn't compete on a stretched out level against local traders.
ua-cam.com/video/7QsZVk8Am_E/v-deo.html meanwhile 80% of China's roads are private now (they're the ones that aren't falling apart by the way not the government vanity projects) this is free market capitalism, unfortunately the new regime in China is going back to National Socialism (Nazism) with over jingoistic intention as well as creating a decoupled closed economy that will be highly regulated and state controlled. You will see in a few years how bad Socialist policies will effect China's economy that grew from free market capitalism during 1990 to 2015. Bill Clinton's housing incentive policy was a socialist policy to practically ensure banks would give out risky loans/mortgages so that he could increase the percentage of Americans who owned m homes to "stop poverty". Later on the government would add in an insurance through an agreement where they would bail out the banks if they collapse from these risky mortgages which would later occur in 2008; that's an economic crash caused by socialism,. The quantitive easing prolonged the recovery process thus forcing more industry to leave the west and find manufacturing supply sources in free market countries I'm Asia like China that had just started developing after adopting the free market structure. Black Rock came in as a government contractor to clean up the 2008 mess and became a socialist backed corporation which would later buy up and monopolise entire consumer markets for the benefit of the government and bankers in the long run, this is all backed by governments why do you think Black Rock forces cultural Marxism on companies they own shares in they are trying to get young passionate gullible folks to root for socialism which will in the end benefit Black Rock and it's friends, (Google, Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, e.t.c all have a main source of STABLE revenue from government procurements which is tax payers money they wouldn't be able to own the whole industry they operate in if it wasn't for government/socialistpolicies) they're buying up land and houses, why? Because the socialist utopia in their eyes is that you will own nothing and you will "be happy" renting, sharing, working , not investing in your own small business whilst creating new innovations or competing against other businesses to create a natural regulation of prices plus services.
Watch this video I sent a link to; that is the "poorest" provincial main city in China. That Park is Privately owned and rented out, those buildings are private, the roads in that city are private and they make revenue from leasing to private shareholder owned but public body bus companies for route usage as well as parking for commuters/shoppers. Those restaurants & shops are small businesses owned by locals who usually come together to seed invest after working 5 years. Don't have to pay VAT until December 2022 for small businesses that make less than £19,000 monthly in profit. Their income tax is so low and sometimes non existent, no council tax, tax bureaus do not enforce property tax yet at all. No road tax, just toll fees which go to private companies for long term maintenance. In UK , EU, USA if you want to have a business you need a lot of capital you can't rely on low skill labour because they're lazy and feel entitled to higher pay due to minimum wage laws which also increase living cost also caused by taxes which increases rent , thus you have a cycle of people living pay cheque to pay cheque where you can't save , and even if you do save for a year it won't last you a few months until you have to go work again. Why make £2000 per month when you're left with £100 after paying rent , utilities, food and other living expenses?; When you can make £500 per month and you're left with £400 after rent , utilities , food etc. etc. etc.
In free market systems you may have lower salaries as a low skill worker but atleast you will have a higher purchasing power in terms of living cost: 1 months salary can usually equate to living 3 months without work on that savings , rather than in a high welfare socialist chrony capitalist state like UK where you can't even pay for food let alone rent for the next month if you choose to stop working.
Often, the argument isn't about convincing those that don't even try to listen to the discussion, but about giving the audience, that cares, the choice of different perspectives.
Indeed.
Your videos have given have wrapped up so many leads, facts, and moments of clarity for me. I started college back in the 2000s, but found my professors and the material garbage compared to the history I'd seen and read. (I lived for 8 years in East Anglia in my teens and young adulthood, my father being in the US Air Force.) The moment that snapped my internal conflicts into place was not the critics of Socialism and it's evil. It was the moment you defined public-private / state-nation. It wasn't a black pill pity party for me, it was the realization the political Right is playing the same games as the Left, and that the Road to collapse is the totalitarian, or tyrannical, control of the whole of society of a nation or country. The Left believes in remaking society through Government. The Right convinces people that if they have control of the State, they will use it's powers to stop the remaking of society through new laws or putting the right people in place. Either way, the biggest threat to individual freedom is the continued expansion and intervention of Government power, which eventually becomes society itself. It all becomes Socialism. It all becomes tyranny. And in the end, it will results in death and poverty. Thatcher, for all her faults said it exactly right, eventually they run out of other people's money to spend.
Keep doing what you are doing! I'm a supporter as of today.
Good points until you reached Thatcher - architect of mass unemployment. Free market economics? Was that really Thatcherism or just a big selling off of public assets into an illusion of private ownership and further taxation?
What about businesses concentrating so much wealth and power that things go back to feudalism?
It's funny you keep citing government as a threat, while not mentioning how corporations are perfectly capable of acting like one or corrupt one.
You also didn't mention that communists and anarchists also want to abolish the State down the line, seeing it as apparatus for the powerful to play with and having the monopole on violence
I can see your pain and your motivation.
Just do the videos you like to do, we like what you do.
Maybe ease up on reading the hate mail.
Best from Australia
I am reminded of a quote I encountered within the last year. It went something like:
You cannot use reason to get somebody to abandon a position they did not use reason to adopt.
Many on the Left will steadfastly refuse to consider or voice a doubt about their own ideology because that would mean excommunication. Their friends will reject them as heretics. I have the luxury of saying I hold NO opinion simply because it is required of me to be part of an "in crowd".
lol can you get any more condescending? Do you actually think anyone who doesn't agree with you has positions they could not have gotten by reason?
@@rring44 I've had a few years now of observing AOC and her brainless statements on economics and culture. When you further consider that literally thousands of people heard the same stuff and that actually earned her their vote, you begin to understand why I might think this.
@@ashcarrier6606 So everyone you disagree with is stupid and without reason. This is a childish view of politics.
@@rring44 Condescending is only true, if his statement... is not true. It is true. Why? Vast majority of people(me, you), of ALL stripes, never reasoned ANY position on ANY subject out. Or reasoned one tiny aspect and ignored the rest. Reasoning a position to HOLD and Proudly Hold as true in public, requires WORK. Lots of WORK. People are #1, Lazy, and #2 Cowards which leads to #3, Prideful which leads them to NOT admit when they are wrong which ultimately leads them to #4 LIE to cover #3. We all like to cover up the fact they we were #1, lazy, and were being #2 cowards intellectually and then ultimately LIED to cover our pathetic pride/ego.
The above statement is true on EVERY subject under the sun and is true left/right up/down forwards/backwards.
@@w8stral Your two previous comments were just "everyone is stupid except me." Now you write that everyone is the same when it comes to ideas. Maybe next time don't write hypocritical and condescending comments.
i used to be more of a social democrat but after watching you and learning more about how economics and free market work I totally changed my mind
thanks for your great effort but honestly if some people are constantly trying to destroy your arguments by swearing and being sarcastic you can't do much
best I would do when I face these people is to ignore them
Keep fighting the good fight man. Some times it takes a river a thousand years to break throgh a stone. The years being the evidence.
Thanks man.
As a left leaning centrist, I love this channel. I dream about a TIK annotated Bevor series of books. I never would have guessed that TIK was on the right and what the point of this post is I don’t care. TIK history lessons are amazing. That political discussions in the comments force political posts rather takes time away from good historical content but I get why you are doing this TIK. It’s all related. That all said, I don’t want to add anything political just to say I look forward to more history content! Thanks TIK.
learn basic economics and be cured
You’ll be ultra conservative soon.
@@dogfacedponysoldier87 Any one who bothers to learn anything should be. I don't think it's supposed to be that way, it's just that what the left has become today is actually ultra ultra extreme left. The fringe left, the absolutely insane, took over and has become the mainstream. Anyone who thinks of themselves as a centrist is actually a pretty extreme leftist in reality, because of the paradigm shift of everyone to the left. The left can't even get war right now, they're all brainwashed about russia for all the trump years. Everything wrong is aligned on one side now. It wasn't always like that, not even close
TIK history is amazing. TIK anythign else is cringe.
@@jebespolitiko Lenin?? What are you doing here?
Hi TIK
new subscriber here. As a recovering Socialist myself I have taken the journey from left to right just like you. my red pill moment came 2years before you in 2016. it was what alcoholics call a moment of clarity. I agree with what you say here, I must say its frustration on our side that leads us to call them stupid. I grew up in a socialist strong hold ( south Wales)its a cult, religion, they feel virtuous in their convictions andif you dsre to think differently its almost treated as heresy. There are none so blind as those that will not see and that is what its like arguing with a leftist ( ive been doing it for 6 years ) I also understand that it is depressing once you have seen behind the curtain, it requires alot of coming to terms with,frustration, anger and some depression come as side effects if taking the red pill, but truth is more important so we live with it. keep up the good work mate!
"recovering Socialist"
In another video TIK joked about setting up a Nazi Anonymous group for the Nazi/Facists who have taken the red pill from him. Maybe he should set-up one for Socialists too?
@@rcgunner7086that's an excellent idea, we both need to come the centre and start working towards pushing out the extreme ideologies
Don't you think you do all this work for nothing.
You convinced me who was a socialist before because i care about facts and evidences and can hear and try to understand other pov.
Keep the good work, you're the best History channel i know and i know a lot of them (i'm an History nerd).
Is it "an history nerd" or "a history nerd" . . . I vote for the latter
@@DanHalper possible but since english isn't my native language, i may do some mistakes from times to times
@@Gurhammer It's a history nerd, but it's just something learners need to memorize by heart. when in doubt, pick "a" rather than "an". I'm an English speaker learning Danish, which has the same for "en" and "et". just trust in "a"
@@Gurhammer I have seen a few cases where 'an' would have been used in your sentence (from native English speakers)
not stupid, not ignorant, not narrowminded, and not paranoid, but still incredibly deceived, willfully and stubbornly at that, and entirely unwilling to hear out or even consider the viewpoints of others on account of them supposedly being secret nazis? not lazy, just lacking motivation? only rude to literally anyone with even moderately diverging opinions, and therefore not necessarily rude? not control freaks who want to stop you from merely offering other people a job for a voluntarily determined wage? sounds like a distinction without a difference to me, tbh.
They have a different mindset and outlook from us, which causes them to see the world differently. If you thought you were a slave, would you put any effort in to your work knowing that it was all for nothing? The ideology has blinded them to the reality of their situation, and I know it might seem obvious to you, but when you're in the wizard's circle, it does make sense.
@@TheImperatorKnight i wouldn't say i was ever a socialist, but i was in those "militant atheist" circles, so i feel like i understand the overall leftist mindset. they might be deceived, but they aren't asking any of the right questions to figure out the truth. even with all the stuff i know about capitalism, i still feel myself second guessing my beliefs every now and then. i use that as justification to try to strengthen and organize my beliefs about it, but it ends up being pointless because the fact that i can never get them to actually give an honest critique means that even when i tell them their win-condition, they still grasp at defeat from the jaws of victory, failing to even respond to my points. usually they start by telling me what i believe, and what i must be ignorant on, usually they'll ignore whatever point i tried to make and jump to america being fascist, and that therefore i am a fascist. then they'll just ignore any instance of me explaining what i actually believe. they'll rely on sophistry and historical revisionism, and the moment i deny their attempt at altering definitions, or historical facts, they'll say my arguments aren't even worth debunking, and that i should just educate myself. they are dogmatic, doublethink is truly an art form in their masterful hands, if they aren't allowed to control the entire flow of the debate, forcing it into one of two options (i'm wrong, or i'm evil and wrong) then they immediately cry foul, give up, and ignore any attempts to get to the bottom of things. it's true that anyone can find themselves in a ditch, but it takes a special kind of fool to dig themselves that deep further into it. a cultist isn't just going to pick anyone off the side of the road to join the cult, they base it on personality. which personality traits do you think are looking for? stupid, ignorant, narrowminded, paranoid.
If they were slaves they would get some work beaten out of them. I can see where you come from , that they have a different world view. But that view is delusional. It seems that you are saying that they don't have any concept of why people go to work, ie to feed themselves and their families. They are a bizarre bunch. You have just confirmed that they are not worth trying to persuade as they are too blind to achieve anything.
Keep up the videos. Very interesting
Saw a video from the shortfat otaku about wokism which touches on what you are saying here
Absolutely I recognise those who have been brought up with 'right bad, left good' mentalities are going to pretty much stay that way - even the most capitalist guy I know (with his rental properties and goals of owning the shiniest status symbols) insists that he's a Socialist because he doesn't want to think he's a bad guy .
One classic quote was 'I may not be as well read as you but at least I believe in what I believe!'.
At the end of the day all you can do is try starting the road as close to their comfort zone as possible and take them along to see the sights - even if they end up running back where they started.
Sounds like you need have a good convo with your friend. He knows he knows he's just scared to own the truth
Thank you! So many people nowadays keep arrogantly repeating the mantra, "They are stupid"... No... Evil is VERY intelligent, and we underestimate Evil at our peril.
The young ones are stupid. Anyone far left over the age of 30 is smart enough yo know why he is far left.. and is still far left. That's evil.
Gotta give youngins a pass. They mostly grow out of it.
I don't get it, what ultimately makes them evil ?
@@xale3658B many of today's left wing aren't like the 90s and 2000s. Many are straight up communists, which is evil. Many believe in the Frankfurt school of Marxism, which involves infiltrating societal institutions to create division and radicalise the next generation into said communism.. which is evil.
If you don't think communism is evil, you don't have a very strong grasp of history. A cursory glance at the 20th century might give you a hint.
@@xale3658B Communists are an international cartel of robbers, slavers and mass murderers.
Normal people would say that is evil.
@@falconmclenny7284 How is it evil
If you are right wing and want to see the world from their eyes play the game Devil may cry. Not the mainline series but the reboot. The one by Ninja Theory. DmC: Devil May Cry for Xbox360/Ps3/Windows.
the main issue with Network Rail is that the privitised operators of the railways are seperated from the nationalised owner of the railway infrastructure - the issue is the seperation, not that Network Rail is state owned
Hey TIK. I just watched today's post. Here are my thoughts on this matter. When I started watching your perspectives on Socialism, Fascism, and Capitalism, my curiosity was piqued. Raised as an ardent utopian socialist, I always fall back on calling right-wingers "Fascists, and Nazis" as equivalents to the right-wing Capitalist Elite in America. On the other hand, Socialism, as you noted, tends to eventually wind up as a totalitarian regime, with the "wolves" in society quickly moving into positions of political/social power to replace "The Old Regime".
Me? I guess I'm more of a DeToquevillian Capitalist under a democratic republic, ONLY because our Constitution created three equally powerful institutions to ensure that those same "wolves" that exist in EVERY society would collect in Washington DC and spend most of their time fighting with the wolves holed up in the other two institutions of power. Anything that managed to get through ALL THREE centers of power and agreed to by a majority of all the different wolf packs, would do the least amount of damage to the general population. My opinion only.
Still, what you've done is perform an extremely thorough investigation into the political climate of the major actors of WW2 and noticed some striking similarities that appear to run counter to the "Popular Belief" that serve to bolster the worldview of those same actors. So yeah, both the left AND the right are going to disagree with you; though I think the right-wing elements might like your commentary a bit better than the lefties.
They're both saying "Wait just a minute! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HANG OUT IN THE CENTER OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, THROWING STONES AT BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM. YOU MUST PICK A SIDE, THEN STAND AT THE EXTREME WITH THE REST OF THE IDEOLOGUES SPOUTING THAT PARTICULAR WORLDVIEW.
I sincerely enjoy observing your reflections, your growing understanding of some VERY INTERESTING facts that have been overlooked (or suppressed) in the past, and doing it in an effective manner.
Keep it up, TIK, or whatever your name is. I will continue to rethink my own worldviews with this new information you've shared, with loads of great facts buried in public records and made such sense when put together into a coherent presentation.
The reason why people yell this is because the centrists are the ones without any commitments or ideas, willing to vouch for anyone as long as they perceive it as giving them power. This happens again and again. The "Enlighted center" pretty much always allies with facists to combat the left.
Also, Socialism leads to a totalitarian regime? Wut? You mean, authoritarianism leads there. Yes, the so called Marxist-Leninists lead there because they decided to scrap pretty much everything Marx wrote and do things differently. They're about as much "Socialist" as they're democratic.
Which leads to the last point, TIK. I do like his war history videos, but his political takes are a total whack. Hitler's socialism is one of the sadly amusing things to taunt about. You know, the guy who put the communists & socialist to the camps. Even before the jews and other minorities ended up there. The only reason the party name was "national socialist" was because this was the early 20th century - every hip populist movement had to mention "socialism" somewhere. He even admitted this himself.
Horseshoe theory is a myth. If you had tried to tell some of the original nazies (or one of the modern ones) that they're leftist socialists, you would be lucky to get off with just a punch.
@UTubeFekUrself I agree that it is folly to suggest that Marx was somehow unrelated to Lenin and the Bolsheviks. That said it is equally problematic to equate Marx and Lenin. Too many Marxists rejected the Soviet experiment the latter assertion to be true. Put differently, there is a reason OSS literature published for American soldiers moving into Germany said the only reliable supporters of democracy in Germany were the Social Democrats.
@@PAcifisti horseshoe theory is only a myth because the fascists and nazis have always been socialist lefties.
@UTubeFekUrself And I bet you haven't read anything that Lenin wrote before he de facto took control of the USSR. It's a stark contrast to what they actually did afterwards. Actually the same thing happened with Stalin as well, his youth writings are very different to what he practiced.
Naturally I haven't red everything Marx has written but I've read enough of Das Kapital to know that you're full of it. Just claim that it's "stupid" is showing your own mental age. Yes, please tell us how it's so stupid and laughable, while being able to predict a lot of how the future went for 150 years. It's amusing indeed.
And yeah, it's a waste of time to debate people who have the mental capacity of a toddler. It can be hard to read something you don't understand. At that point it's easier to throw the thing away and give up. It was probably the books fault anyways, it was dumb and laughable.
Edit: You call yourself as having been a commie, but you sure don't sound like you've actually red any leftist theories. You do realize that there's Leftism outside of "Marxism-Leninism" which I personally don't even count as Leftism given that it goes entirely against the main principles of the Left? Just because they claim to be leftists doesn't mean they are. USSR also claimed to be a democracy but for some reason you're not asking us to ban those too. Every authoritarian shithole has claimed to have been a people's paradise using whatever slogans they wanted to.
Also, way to go. 1984 was written by a leftist. You got it mixed up brother, the bad guys are not the leftist in that movie....
@@wtice4632 Yes, in the looney lands this is true. For other places... not so much.
former leftist here!
pls, go on with your outstanding work, as a historian myself I absolutely appreciate your thourough work and effort you put into all your videos. it is a pity you are running out of fuel like a panzer VI in 1944!
btw, I know what it means to finally open your eyes, get a totally new view of world and history after reading some "Austrians" like von Mises, Hayek, Böhm-Bawerk and Rothbard. now I deeply understand that a liberterian approach to society might be the only way to secure a peaceful and prosperous future of mankind. but as a long-haired left-winged student in the 80`s I despised people like you are now. well, it is never too late to get educated! ;-)
Hes getting older and wiser
Honestly dude, I'm left-leaning but because of you, I will never be a socialist. I now consider myself a Capitalist with heart. Like in everything, if you do anything in the extreme then you're bound to screw up. You must be balanced. Thanks for the knowledge. Keep it up, stop feeling bad. Save some more people who're on the fence! Be happy about it! Cheers!
I'm on the extreme side of not raping others. Sorry, I just can't be balanced about it.
@@dovh49 Jesus, really? Ok, I'm on the extreme side of not shooting myself & I'm on the extreme side of not having a nuclear war. Obviously none of that is a comprehensive worldview.
@@megafauna7 lol, The point is that people say "extremism" is bad. But it actually isn't, in the right things extremism can be very good.
I'm a voluntaryist which is "extreme" but I don't consider it extreme. Which is more extreme, the belief that society should set up a monopoly of force or a belief system that everyone should work together in a voluntary fashion including for defense of my own self?
I would consider the belief in a centralized force to be far more radical and dangerous. Yet, my views are considered the "extreme" ones. Just because something is "extreme" doesn't make it bad.
@@dovh49 Semantics.
"Capitalist with heart" WTF does that mean ?
The belief is not that the right is evil. The right enforces a bad system in general. Right wingers are pleasant people, and most without knowing enforce the system. You are not evil, you are misguided. Right wingers are also not generally racist, but in many instances enforce racist systems. The right are also obviously not fascist, but would with open arms cooperate with fascists if the threat to their power like a revolution arises.
Thanks for the information TIK, and for expressing your frustrations. I only have two answers for you, and these I've learned over time:
1. You CANNOT convince someone to change their minds. You do not have the power to do that. Change can only be made by that person. They must be willing to hear or willing to change.
What you can do is 'suggest', which is what you are doing. You can suggest they read various sources for themselves. You can suggest they consider a situation from this or that point of view. In doing that, it encourages individuals to empower themselves to consider something different or consider different viewpoints. Suggestion empowers individuals to understand they have the power of choice. It might be to not change anything. It might be to question preconceptions they have.
Again, you cannot change people. They have to be willing to change themselves.
2. Why do the detailed analysis with the political and economical aspects included? For me, I am always learning something new from you doing this. It challenges me to consider ideas and concepts I hadn't thought of. It provides greater understanding to the historical events that happened.
So why do the detailed analysis? Please do it for individuals like me, who want to learn and understand better, how the events unfolded. I may not always agree with you but your research, and presentation of, is beyond reproach!
Do I curse at you? Sometimes, but it is because you have suggested a particular book that I now want to read and have to scour used bookstores for. I am happy to say my extensive library is even more extensive from adding your reference material.
Please, continue doing exactly what you are doing for myself, and others like me. We truly appreciate the dedication and hard work you put into each and every video.
Many, many thanks! Barb
My opinion is that the true spectrum of government runs from collectivism to individualism. I dislike the terms "left," "right," "liberal," or "conservative." (And I am NONE those things). There are collectivist ideologies like Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Fascism, Theocracies, and even Democracy (the tyranny of the majority). All of them consider society to be more important than the individual, which is always detrimental for the individual citizen. A proper government focuses on the health of the individual citizen by creating an environment where he can pursue life, liberty and happiness, be free, be responsible for his actions, pull his weight in society, and be equal under the law. Capitalism is only a problem because billionaires and Big Business control it and own everything, including governments, the Media, and the Deep State. The World Economic Forum is a true danger to civilization.
'My opinion is that the true spectrum of government runs from collectivism to individualism'
That is my belief also.
Left is collectivist
Right is individualist
This is what the evidence I have seen supports
@@juliantheapostate8295 Perhaps, but in the United States "Right" is Republican and "Left" is Democrat. I'm an American and champion individual liberty, but I despise the Republican party just as much as the Democrat party. The swamp in D.C. is collectively and individually corrupt. They are all, with incredibly rare exception, in fear of the Deep State and in the pockets of billionaires, regardless of party affiliation. Of course, that's just my opinion on the subject!
@@thereligionofrationality8257 It's the same in the UK.
There is little difference between the parties
I find hard following you on this one, Tik. You didn't necessarily said anything wrong in itself, problem is with the title: it should not be "Actually, Leftists aren't STUPID people" but instead "Actually, people on the internet aren't STUPID people".
I'm damn serious. Everything you described it's basically people on the internet or teenagers: paranoia, laziness, conspiracy thinking, rudeness, immaturity. This has nothing to do with politics nor economics whatsoever.
And I'm saying this because I've been doing politics for 15 years now, mostly within Italian centre and centre-left parties, from local elections to being member of a national board, and I swear that not a single point in this video (among those you mentioned as being socialists' critiques) has ever been brought seriously on the table in any occasion.
I've heard some of those points in the past, sure: in high school, when I was a dumb kid flaunting flags and picking battles I couldn't fully understand. But that's it. People grow up and understand that the world is not a giant Capitalist Evil Corporation composed of fat people dressed in tuxedos with bunches of dollars on their hands planning to take over Earth. And if they don't get it, well... they usually end up spending most of their adulthood posting and sharing on Facebook. Or worse, they end up voting for far-left and far-right socialist parties. Sometimes even "whataboutist" parties, like the Five Star Movement in my country.
So, what's my point? My point is that you are not arguing with socialists, you are arguing with kids on the internet. Immature kids, I would add. Or maybe US socialists. **
** [Dear American friends, pardon my political squeamishness, it's just that... you really messed up politics. Seriously. From every direction, Left and Right, Democrats and Republicans. If you'd just acted on 1/100th of what you tweet on a daily basis you probably could've taken over Mars, Saturn and Jupiter already. And some of you still believe Bernie Sanders is a socialist. What a mess... and if an Italian says you are a mess you should be pretty worried indeed.]
bravissimo, Fabio !
It's interesting that 1789 was the date the the current us system started. We have had to change form since then. How many different forms of government have European countries or other continents had since then. We in America have real serious issues, but so far we have managed. Barely at times, but we are still going. Food for thought.
@@adamhenderson6112 you did manage so far. Sometimes pretty good, sometimes pretty bad, just like any other country. Don't get me wrong, my intention is not to shit on your political system (which is quite different in certain aspects from European countries), but you are also quite unique: the USA is arguably the most powerful nation in the world while also being relatively young on the scene, historically speaking. Every other superpower of present and past time has/had long-standing political traditions, while you took on quite the influence from many different sources and then created your own system in just a couple hundreds of years.
Which is probably your edge, but also your weakness.
For any bits of the undeniable influence the USA has had all over the world, especially culture-wise (both proactive and destructive), there are many other factors that clash when compared to ol' Europe and the political tradition in general: Left and Right, for instance, is one of those.
I appreciate the perspective.
I discovered your channel very recently.
I admit that I am not educated in these matters. Therefore I don’t authorise my self to comment.
However, I would like to thank you for your work and sharing.
I’m learning a lot.
❤
Re: the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. What Adam and Eve did was reject the authority of God, and replace it with themselves. In other words, they chose to worship themselves instead of worshipping God. Since they are mere humans, and not God, they don't know everything, they don't understand the significance of evil actions. This led them to creating a fallen world, a world of violence driven by the worship of ourselves rather than worship of God, the objective source of all truth and life.
In regards to your video as a telling of truth and knowledge, it would work like this: the cult members are the ones who reject objective truth/reality. It's as if they are Adam and Eve, rejecting God, who is the ultimate truth.
Thanks for making this video, I think we have a similar life path, but my 'wake up'/mind change moment happened around 2015 or so in terms of social politics. In terms of interest in capitalism that didnt happen until 2018. I was basically apolitical for a while. Such a mental paradigm shift can take a while to process, I basically didn't trust anything I had believed for a few years, and spent a lot of time researching and thinking about my own values and whether they made sense.
Believing in an ideology that can be considered flawed, stupid, controlling, or narrow minded does not make you stupid. I believe in democracy, and I don't consider myself stupid either. Bottom line is, no political ideology is perfect. They all have their own benefits and drawbacks.
Democracy isnt an ideology. Get off of strategy games and touch grass
Democracy isn’t an ideology, it’s a logical fallacy.
@@jaysontadlock1871
No, it is not a logical fallacy.
I have been studying philosophies for years and have taken different courses on logical fallacies and Democracy is not one of them.
If so, please elaborate.
A system of making decision based on the majority rule is not an error in reasoning.
@@jaysontadlock1871 Your ideology is being retarded.
@@ThePTBRULES Now now, listen to TIK they aren’t retarded. 😀