Roto Grip Duo. Baby Zen? | Ball Review by Chris Barnes

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  • Опубліковано 20 січ 2025

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  • @TheExpressionx
    @TheExpressionx Рік тому

    Absolutely loving the way this ball looks going down the lane, rolls very nice too. Definitely something I might be eyeing as my next purchase, great review Chris!

  • @nickganiron2730
    @nickganiron2730 Рік тому

    Great info for comparing equipment. Chris would make a house ball look like a champ

  • @mrscoob3450
    @mrscoob3450 Рік тому

    Added this to my arsenal today. Looking for advice on 2 more balls to fill in gaps. Top to bottom i have the Eternity Pi, Katana strike, Duo, Hustle usa.

  • @AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan
    @AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan Рік тому

    Been watching you bowl for years, and I would love to see you and your son Ryan facing each other in a bowling game only using the Roto Grip Duo. That would fun to see.

  • @markwidell3031
    @markwidell3031 Рік тому

    I just picked one up and wondering what is best layout for someone with a low track and lower ball speed(14.5mph) with medium revs. Currently throwing hybrids and solids.

  • @s1l3nc3r3
    @s1l3nc3r3 Рік тому

    This looks close too, the old Storm Flash line. More so the Flash Point. The only major difference being the weight block looks completely different.

  • @adamabdelaziz4586
    @adamabdelaziz4586 Рік тому +1

    I’m very anxious to see you guys today

  • @tylerneal5390
    @tylerneal5390 Рік тому +2

    I like the Hy road pearl a lot. i am think of making a 3 ball arsenal i would like some ideas for balls that would go well with Hy road pearl. would the original Zen be a good option or is zen to much like hy road pearl? i am more on the beginner level still trying to understand how to hook a ball. Would i need a super strong ball like original Gem?

    • @cyan0xide
      @cyan0xide Рік тому

      anyone can use any ball bro dont let anyone gatekeep you. but if your new ball is doing something you dont like then you should go to your pro shop guy and tell him and ask what he recommends, whether that be a different ball or surface or layout. youll eventually "hone in" on the types of ball that work for you

    • @michaelschrobilgen3118
      @michaelschrobilgen3118 Рік тому +1

      Storm iq tour solid would be a good ball up from the hyroad pearl

    • @iceman5117
      @iceman5117 Рік тому

      @@cyan0xide different balls are going to have different looks on the same condition. Relying on a single piece over multiple days and multiple games is going to result in a lot of frustration and poor outcomes

    • @iceman5117
      @iceman5117 Рік тому +2

      If you still haven't figured out a consistent release, work on that before buying more equipment. You need to hammer down how you throw the ball and become consistent before you'll be able to notice the differences between balls
      That being said, the hyroad pearl is an extremely clean, moderately flaring piece and one of the flippiest balls in storm's lineup. Where to go from there is going to depend on your speed, rev rate and tilt, and what conditions you bowl. I would check Moe Pinel's video on building an arsenal first.
      You'll generally want a plastic ball for shooting spares. I'm not sure if you're counting that one. Being a generally balanced bowler, I would personally put the hyroad pearl at the bottom of my bag. My next stop would be a stronger symmetrical, like the phase Ii or III, zen or zen master, idol cosmos, Brunswick melee or knock out, dv8 verge solid, track stealth, hammer web or motiv ripcord, forge, sky raptor or pride empire.
      My next stop would be a big asymmetrical solid for first out of the bag on house. The gem, reality, dv8 hellcat, Brunswick mindset, track archetype, radical innovator solid or similar.

    • @tylerneal5390
      @tylerneal5390 Рік тому

      @@cyan0xide thanks im just trying to find 2 balls that would work well with Hy road pearl im leaning towards Zen and Gem

  • @christophererenberg1963
    @christophererenberg1963 Рік тому

    How do you feel about this one vs the cosmos?

  • @michaeluhrich7501
    @michaeluhrich7501 Рік тому

    What weight ball are you using

  • @joshg218
    @joshg218 Рік тому +1

    5x5x2.5 woukd look great on this condition

  • @15217847
    @15217847 Рік тому

    Hi I would like you to help me a little bit...😅
    I'm looking to buy my first ball, have 2 options:
    Revenant
    Duo
    Which of these options can be the best fit for me as a beginner and first ball.
    Great video!!!

  • @larrymccollum6879
    @larrymccollum6879 Рік тому

    Where does it fit between my green Trailblazer and my Zen Soul

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      it will be cleaner and way more angular than Zen Soul. If the soul is a little older, the Duo will probably hook more overall also. Don't really know much about trailblazer sorry

  • @scottashley3906
    @scottashley3906 Рік тому +3

    Thanks again Chris for the vid/ball review and break down of comparisons. I appreciate you are the reviews because of the information that you include in your videos. Keep up the great work.👍🤙🏿👍🤙🏿💯💯

  • @machinethesun9243
    @machinethesun9243 Рік тому

    Hmm, this looks good for the ladies with a bit of slower ball speed. Would this overlap with the Night Road in the bag?

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому +1

      Not really, think there will be pretty big gap. Core numbers are miles apart, especially in 14lbs and 15lbs

    • @machinethesun9243
      @machinethesun9243 Рік тому

      @@BeefandBarnzy thank you!

  • @clintonkahler2082
    @clintonkahler2082 Рік тому

    nice try on the trick shot split Chris!!

  • @CJthehobbyist
    @CJthehobbyist Рік тому +1

    This ball looks amazing

  • @poolmathers6613
    @poolmathers6613 Рік тому

    Would it be okay as a decent first ball for someone has experience but only plastic?

    • @ianhoneycutt3858
      @ianhoneycutt3858 Рік тому

      Probably not tbh. I'd go with a Hyroad

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      If you are looking for a first ball after plastic, I would look towards the hustle line first

  • @captainatheist3644
    @captainatheist3644 Рік тому +1

    I wish Beef and Barnzy was a sandwich or some kind of food dish

  • @quietguy5468
    @quietguy5468 Рік тому

    Very good review!😊😊

  • @sparkplugpeggy4910
    @sparkplugpeggy4910 Рік тому

    I LOOOOVE mine, I named her Gilda

  • @DavidSmith-hg7nf
    @DavidSmith-hg7nf Рік тому

    Shape reminds me of an Axiom Pearl.

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      Makes sense, think this is a little more cover though.

  • @bowlingdj300
    @bowlingdj300 Рік тому

    Great review as usual Barnzy, is the Duo fairly close to a 900 Global Aspect? lmk thx, just ordered a beef & barnzy shirt, cheers!

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      Thanks for the shirt order!! Duo isn't really that close to aspect, the aspect was earlier and much smoother than duo

    • @cerealkiller8223
      @cerealkiller8223 Рік тому

      would probably say that the duo would be similar to aspect if you were to sand it down to 2000

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      @@cerealkiller8223 think it might take more than that.

  • @ozz71
    @ozz71 Рік тому

    isnt that the ball specily made for 2 handers?

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      No. The DV8 Troublemaker is being marketed that way, not any storm balls. I think all ball are good for 1 or 2 handed players

    • @iceman5117
      @iceman5117 Рік тому +1

      There's not really such a thing. The troublemaker is marketed like that, but the hype really loves it as a one handed

    • @ozz71
      @ozz71 Рік тому

      @@iceman5117 actuly there is packy reviewed it a bout a week ago so u might wanto research before commenting

    • @iceman5117
      @iceman5117 Рік тому +1

      @@ozz71 which doesn't explain why do many one handers are enjoying it, like the hype and bowlerx. Hell, dv8s own marketing videos show one handed bowlers throwing it without issue

    • @chugalingus4642
      @chugalingus4642 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ozz71 lol. It's all marketing. Don't buy into the marketing of anything. Let your own eyes make your opinion.

  • @JoshuaSlosser
    @JoshuaSlosser Рік тому +5

    Looks a little lazy down lane so I take it it’s very strong

    • @iceman5117
      @iceman5117 Рік тому

      Yeah she's burning up a bit downlane

    • @brettrobbins2707
      @brettrobbins2707 Рік тому +2

      Anything with micro Trax is gonna burn up early, 100% nano load for that early part

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому +2

      25 yr old hpl and following the coffee league adds just a touch too lol. Threw it today in Shawnee and looked considerably more responsive than Phaze2 - was pleasantly surprised. Good fit as a middle ball

  • @johnyarbrough9280
    @johnyarbrough9280 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so very much for making this video

  • @synysterxp470
    @synysterxp470 Рік тому

    kinda looks like the shatter

  • @johnyarbrough9280
    @johnyarbrough9280 Рік тому +1

    I enjoyed watching this video alot

  • @roscoepretlowiv7959
    @roscoepretlowiv7959 Рік тому

    This definitely looks earlier than the Zen

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      Not from our eyes. This center is pretty early. Think this will be a small step down from zen, a little cleaner and more angular for us

    • @roscoepretlowiv7959
      @roscoepretlowiv7959 Рік тому

      @@BeefandBarnzy Wow. Even though duo has a much stronger cover formula than the Zen, you still have the Zen earlier. I ordered mine late, so I'll find out in the next couple of days. Thanks for the video as always!

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      @@roscoepretlowiv7959 I think the zen cover is pretty strong. 🤷‍♂️

    • @roscoepretlowiv7959
      @roscoepretlowiv7959 Рік тому

      @@BeefandBarnzy I've heard from quite a few people that s77 response pearl that is "pretty close" to NEX pearl, which was on the axiom pearl.
      If that holds true, then the microtrax pearl that's on the duo is stronger than the s77 response that is on the Zen.
      The Zen does have the largest symmetric core, so we could be seeing that plus the lower diff of the duo...
      But again, I haven't thrown it yet, so idk.

    • @BeefandBarnzy
      @BeefandBarnzy  Рік тому

      @@roscoepretlowiv7959 I agree w Stu as well. I’m seeing the Duo as cleaner than zen as well.

  • @johnyarbrough9280
    @johnyarbrough9280 Рік тому

    Amazing video about bowling ball

  • @ifyoudidntknownowyoudo6326
    @ifyoudidntknownowyoudo6326 Рік тому

    Looks like UFO

  • @davideaton6500
    @davideaton6500 Рік тому

    whats up with you sticking your tounge out so much