@@zayburnell wouldn't say rip off, they did pay homage to various bands in certain tracks and videos. Pretty sure the rhythm section in Still Waiting is a nod to Metallica, as well as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest references in some tracks of the the All Killer and Half Hour albums.
@@Bilbo_mk1 combined responsibility by mxpx to motivation. The 1st verse of the hell song to nickelback how you remind me intro. This song is a rip off metallicas battery and master of puppets combined.
Holy shit... After all these years I found it. Around 2008 a Need for Speed Most Wanted music video used this and I only knew the Underclass Hero version. I hunted an alternate version of that for YEARS. Thank you WIKI!
@@Futureal_Dio yes, you did. But what does it change or add to the original comment? It's like me saying "Chuck came out before Underclass Hero", without any context.
Having this bonus track at the end of Chuck ties it perfectly back to the start, and gives a feeling of "time to break the circle" in my mind, shame it wasn't included on the standard album itself but Noots is such a perfect end song as well that I understand the decision to make it a bonus track
I love Underclass Hero and am glad they hung onto those lyrics to create that song later on, but at the time, why the hell didn't they put this gem in Chuck? Obviously it resembles No Reason at times but who cares?
Quick question for you guys, if you know the song noots by sum 41 it isn’t on any of their albums on Spotify, it’s on the fantastic 4 soundtrack. I’ve had it downloaded for the longest time and just a few months back it grayed out it won’t play the song, it just says something about it being a radio song or something. Kind of irritated me because it’s my favourite sum 41 song. If you guys have the same problem let me know
i love both songs though i'll admit, the chorus seems to fit more in subject to change than underclass hero then again, it's probably because i've known about subject to change for years, whereas i only just heard underclass hero not even a month ago hah
@@Randoman35 It's not only about the chorus itself, it also depends on the context you put it in. It has a completely different impact in Subject To Change which I also prefer, somehow it pops out more with these heavy verses.
This actually is a complete track. I believe at the time it reminded a bit too much of No Reason so they left it out of Chuck. They liked the chorus so much tho that they made a new song revolving around it, Underclass Hero.
Dang, it's 2024 and I still don't understand what people use Spotify for. Why is it a problem that something is not on Spotify? No one listens to music from their device anymore?
Me encanta este tema, adoro los viejos tiempos de Sum 41, su música sonaba más enérgica, en cambio ahora los noto apagados, además que el grupo ha cambiado de integrantes. Es una pena que poco a poco se deshaga, tenía ilusión de ir a un concierto suyo y que estuvieran todos...
So how long has this gone? I dont see this ending... it's too late, we cant take what has now begun.. we act like it's not right, why are we pretending?? Weve been gone for so long, we knew this all along......dam... tear me up
this was basically one of the songs that they scratched from chuck. in most album recordings about half the songs a band will write will get cut from the final album. they did release this song for the Korean album as a bonus track, but then when they were writing stuff for Underclass Hero this got resurfaced and changed around to the song everyone knows now.
to anybody left wondering: "The chorus of "Underclass Hero" is a remake of the chorus from the unfinished version of "No Reason" that originally appeared on Chuck and was released as a bonus track, titled "Subject to Change"." [wikipedia]
A lot of people get weirded out by how its the predecessor of No Reason and Underclass Hero.... personally, I discovered this song first so it doesn't confuse me much. I actually prefer it to either though they are all dope songs
This goes back to what I said before. They disliked because they didn't like the song. The buttons there for a reason. If somebody clicks it they didn't like the video/song. Let them click it if they want. It doesn't effect the videos performance in any way at all.
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No Reason and Underclass Hero.
Damn this is genius
Underclass Hero is awesome, I also like No Apologies.
Genius ? , this is cool but no genius
Was this fanmade?
Alfredo Vasquez You must be the guy everyone wants to be around at parties
Niranjan Sridhar no, this was a demo they initially scrapped. Part of it were put on NR and UH, and they decided to make it a bonus track too.
Sum 41 will always be my number one favorite bands!
even though they did rip off a lot of music
@@zayburnell explain
@@zayburnell wouldn't say rip off, they did pay homage to various bands in certain tracks and videos. Pretty sure the rhythm section in Still Waiting is a nod to Metallica, as well as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest references in some tracks of the the All Killer and Half Hour albums.
@@Bilbo_mk1 combined responsibility by mxpx to motivation. The 1st verse of the hell song to nickelback how you remind me intro. This song is a rip off metallicas battery and master of puppets combined.
agree
13 Voices, No Reason and Underclass Hero. Damn.
Where do you hear 13 voices? I only hear the other 2
@@chrigg84 yeah fr thats what i was thinking aha
@@chrigg84 first 10 seconds are pretty close to the intro
Holy shit... After all these years I found it. Around 2008 a Need for Speed Most Wanted music video used this and I only knew the Underclass Hero version. I hunted an alternate version of that for YEARS. Thank you WIKI!
What is need for speed mv
Do you mean Mw (most wanted)
i think he meant: montage video .... not sure
perfect example of how bands/songwriters sit on great songs/lyrics for years
I always thought this was a way better sound then underclass hero. I wanna see them play this live :)
Hope you managed to see that live. I did few days ago in Melbourne and that was a moment to remember
Where to get this one in lossless quality? Was it present on any of their CDs?
its a combo of No Reason and Underclass Hero. preety damn cool ;)
Underclass hero was in 2007 this was in 2004
@@Futureal_Dio What do you want to say with your comment?
The i only pointed out that subjekt to change was realest in 2004 and underclass hero was in 2007
@@Futureal_Dio yes, you did. But what does it change or add to the original comment?
It's like me saying "Chuck came out before Underclass Hero", without any context.
@@oggel33t i dont know what it changes
Having this bonus track at the end of Chuck ties it perfectly back to the start, and gives a feeling of "time to break the circle" in my mind, shame it wasn't included on the standard album itself but Noots is such a perfect end song as well that I understand the decision to make it a bonus track
They still should have put it on the standard album, except the chorus was recycled on Underclass Hero
This is a wicked song. I feel that the chorus goes way better in this song than in Underclass Hero.
I love this song so much. I can’t believe they recycled it and didn’t just use this version as it’s superior!
this is the best sum 41 song ever.
I usually prefer more punk stuff to the hardcore stuff, but the chorus just feels so much more powerful and emotional in this song.
Totally agree, this chorus gives me goosebumps and everytime I listen to it I wanna scream it out loud
try Underclass Hero
Rizky wp I think his comment Is referring to the fact that this chorus is more heavy compared to underclass hero which has a more punk feel to it
this band rocks dude. they are my go to, when i am feeling rough. rock on dudes !
everyone romanticises the 80ies, but THIS was the music of MY childhood
A helluva lot of great shit came out in the 2000s. Chuck was one of the best in my opinion, unfortunately this song wasn't on it.
@@devilsoffspring5519 Offspring pfp, nice!
I love Underclass Hero and am glad they hung onto those lyrics to create that song later on, but at the time, why the hell didn't they put this gem in Chuck? Obviously it resembles No Reason at times but who cares?
They did put this in Chuck in the Japanese edition bonus track I have it.
@@tfla11 Lucky you
やっぱりこの曲良いわ...
Spotify dammit!
Zebraxazz #999 I agree. It turns out this was one of the Japanese additon bonus songs
What have Spotify done this time?
@@ealing456 this song isn't on Spotify
@@goldenhospitality8521 it needs to be
Quick question for you guys, if you know the song noots by sum 41 it isn’t on any of their albums on Spotify, it’s on the fantastic 4 soundtrack. I’ve had it downloaded for the longest time and just a few months back it grayed out it won’t play the song, it just says something about it being a radio song or something. Kind of irritated me because it’s my favourite sum 41 song. If you guys have the same problem let me know
the chorus is better than in underclass hero.
Agreed.
i love both songs
though i'll admit, the chorus seems to fit more in subject to change than underclass hero
then again, it's probably because i've known about subject to change for years, whereas i only just heard underclass hero not even a month ago hah
It's the same chorus, just in different keys. It sounds better in Underclass Hero.
@@Randoman35 It's not only about the chorus itself, it also depends on the context you put it in.
It has a completely different impact in Subject To Change which I also prefer, somehow it pops out more with these heavy verses.
agree
Ooh.... I just found out that this is an incomplete track, and they finalized it with Underclass Hero, explaining the chorus thing.
+Shaun Gruver That explains it.
+FinallyFull You could say it was left subject to change XD
This actually is a complete track. I believe at the time it reminded a bit too much of No Reason so they left it out of Chuck. They liked the chorus so much tho that they made a new song revolving around it, Underclass Hero.
Why is this masterpiece missing from spotify?!
Same from Apple Music😢
because the chorus was recycled from underclass hero
Dang, it's 2024 and I still don't understand what people use Spotify for. Why is it a problem that something is not on Spotify? No one listens to music from their device anymore?
Bro this is a bonus track for Japanese Version
This song is a bonus track for Japanese releases of the album, thankfully we got Noots which was also a bonus track
The intro rift is the best they ever done. Period
The Chorus sounds sooooo much better here than in Underclass Hero!
Yea
I love the fact that this song has by favorite parts from Underclass Hero and No Reason along with adding some of its own material. Sounds great...
More than 16 years later i finally can hear this song back 😮😮 thanks god for allowing me this ❤
you know its their best album when even the b-sides/un-included tracks slap.
#PunkIsNotDead
Yeah well this came out 13 years ago but you aint wrong
Punk is still alive!
It was never dead, It went underground as it was suppose to be.
sum 41 did their best to kill it though
Sum41 isn't even really a punk rock band, the majority of their albums fit alternative metal / hard rock more than punk
This song is amazing. A combination of "no reason" and "underclass hero".. I vibe with it.. 🤘🤘✌✌ 🥴👈
still a masterpiece in 2022
Such a great chorus, glad they re-used it
Very interesting! underclass hero was after chuck so its weird to see this corus in this song
Pretty sweet!
Best song that should’ve been on chuck!
Underclass hero is my favourite song, and after 5years listening to it, I found this one .. I can't describe my feelings, but it's so epic :D
前奏がマジでカッコ良すぎる
Every time it kicks into the chorus i get tricked into thinking its one of those compilation songs
SUM 41 ❤️❤️❤️
How did this never make the final cut of Chuck I'll never understand... GOAT track by Sum 41!!!
I believe it was due to the similarities to No Reason which was their single hit.
melhor álbum do Sum 41
This is one of my favorit songs from sum 41
...my god its been 9 years since I commented on here WTF that was quick!
Crazy this is my first time
This song and band deserve much more that 62.000
No way stevo32 talked about this absolute classic
After the first line I had One Step Closer by LP in my head (how can we fake this anymore..)
its the first underclass hero so thats why it was "subject to change"
By far! It's freaking awesome!
chuck! the best album in the world!
This is my favorite Sum 41 song. Sad it was left off of CHUCK. Hapoy it got recycled in some way for Underclass Hero but this version is the best!
They should have had this on the standard version of Chuck. It's a nice closing track for it.
i like this so much more than underclass hero. its like the newer sum 41 with the old chuck feel to it. love it.
I think, they don't have worst album... All of them were awesome!
For an incomplete song it's damn good. I personally like this version better than Underclass Hero.
Me encanta este tema, adoro los viejos tiempos de Sum 41, su música sonaba más enérgica, en cambio ahora los noto apagados, además que el grupo ha cambiado de integrantes. Es una pena que poco a poco se deshaga, tenía ilusión de ir a un concierto suyo y que estuvieran todos...
Okupa Trece Eso es posible ahora :v
Se van sepear 2024 con una guira, mundial
Shame these bonus tracks aren't on official platforms, because they sound sick
one of my favourite songs of sum 41 :>
subject to change > Underclass hero
Yes totally
それな
Absolutely! Although I like both lol. 🤣
Can't find subject to change on spotify
True
B side masterpiece
I wish they added this Spotify already 😭
i love all there tracks!!!! much respects sum 41, forever yung warlxrds original inspiration
No me canso de esta cancion LPTM...
3 songs combined? Just amazing
So how long has this gone? I dont see this ending... it's too late, we cant take what has now begun.. we act like it's not right, why are we pretending?? Weve been gone for so long, we knew this all along......dam... tear me up
Underclass Hero, No Reason and Noots, three in one, I fucking love how it sounds this song, favourite, absolutly!
Subject to Change is heard like a hardcore/emo song that headbangable.
Underclass hero is a modern punk rock song that catchy and jumpable
this was basically one of the songs that they scratched from chuck. in most album recordings about half the songs a band will write will get cut from the final album. they did release this song for the Korean album as a bonus track, but then when they were writing stuff for Underclass Hero this got resurfaced and changed around to the song everyone knows now.
i accidentally landed here but like it. so much for searching up a song you dont know^^
to anybody left wondering:
"The chorus of "Underclass Hero" is a remake of the chorus from the unfinished version of "No Reason" that originally appeared on Chuck and was released as a bonus track, titled "Subject to Change"." [wikipedia]
This song is full of addictive melodies. some parts sound like underclass hero album style.
Reminds me of Rise Against before 2010!
this song is infinitely better than underclass hero
this is chaos yeah❤
This song i like 3 songs in one! It's got my favorite parts from No Reason and Underclass Hero...
I love Sum 41 !!!!
Look for this:
thanks for nothing.
No Brains
Hyper insomnia
Over my Head
CHUCK IS THE BEST SUM41 ALBUM
It's a bonus song for the corean and japanese Chuck album , they have 3 bonus tracks : Noots (we have it) , Moron and subject to change
Getting better and better
A lot of people get weirded out by how its the predecessor of No Reason and Underclass Hero.... personally, I discovered this song first so it doesn't confuse me much. I actually prefer it to either though they are all dope songs
Same here man 😊
spotifyyy , whyyyyy !!!
AWESOME song
I'm in love with this song, I'm happy I like doz amv
that's what i always want to hear/read when people discuss :)
respect for that comment !
p.s. : love both bands ^^
This goes back to what I said before. They disliked because they didn't like the song. The buttons there for a reason. If somebody clicks it they didn't like the video/song.
Let them click it if they want. It doesn't effect the videos performance in any way at all.
awesome song
They weren't kidding when they named this song "Subject to Change". They ended up using the chorus from this for Underclass Hero. xD
"subject to change" in 2004, later that subject was changed to "underclass hero" in 2007
Omfg I need this on a cd tho m8s
Much better version than the later one. How I dislike Underclass hero and love Chuck :D
Sum 41, green day, blink 182, rise against, alien ant farm.... Too many kick-ass groups to name!
subject to change was first then underclass hero ;)
This is my first time listening to this and I can’t just understand what’s happening rn
Way better than underclass hero!!
best song ever
WOW thank you :D
Screaming bloody murder was amazing....
This a bonus song on the Japanese/Korean release !
Sum 41 Drum covers will come soon!
When my new cam arrives =P
If you want original sum 41, then I'd suggest Chuck, and then Does This Look Infected? both awesome albums of their heavier stuff.
Wish i could have these bonuses on spotify damn
Thumbs up if your listening to this in 2012!
love it
"Just like cake!"