No you're not, you're exactly right! I'm in college right now I just finished taking general chemistry for science majors and Dave's videos are literally part of the class curriculum. He has a bachelor's in chemistry( he didn't fail) and a masters in science education which is actually perfect for what he does. You don't have to have a PhD to teach, and he's actually better than my chemistry professor, who does have one. She's the one who put his videos in the learning modules lol. These guys are being dishonest AF, but they know their target audience won't be able to tell the difference.
Yes you need to believe in talking snakes and donkeys and a man living in the belly of a fish. Without fallacy demonstrated proofs in your resume you’re not qualified to discuss science or the scientific method.
it certainly qualifies him as equal if not more than someone like --Kent Hovind with mere physics bachelor degree or-- (retracted. i've been factchecked that hovind doesnt even have that. can't find a relevant degree in any natural sciences to even give him credit) Stephen Meyer with 'irrelevant' education in philosophy of science, earth science, and physics when it comes him discussing genetics i have a bachelor of science and was required to complete biochemistry, organic chemistry, genetics, ecology, & vertebrate morphology with a heavy focus on cladistics his coverage was not just factually in line with academic material. he even managed to add supplementary knowledge to my existing understanding. to demonstrate: his intricate understanding of haeckel's biogenetic law and where specifically haeckel got right or wrong is so current that it is even better and more accurate than what was taught when i was in morphology class anyone who has completed basic biochemistry can definitely tell you that creationist complain about 2nd thermodynamic law is unsubstatiated since as Dave pointed out, spontaenity of a reaction doesnt just depend on the local entropy change but also on total change in heat. so in fact reactions that cause lower entropy can happen naturally without artificial intervention even his debunking of the idea that genetic information cannot increase relies simply on elementary genetic knowledge of simple gene duplication that creationists are too lazy to educate themselves on
@GrammeStudio I know you're not disagreeing, but just a heads up, not sure where you're getting your information from, but Kent Hovind absolutely does NOT have a BSc in physics lol. The closest he comes to that is a "bachelors" in Christian education from an unaccredited Baptist college and a totally bogus PhD in education from another unaccredited Christian diploma mill. None of his "degrees" even come close to being legit. Dave has a masters in science education from Cal state.
My dad proudly told me the JWST proved the big bang never happened. I read the article he sent me and I was like, "All this says is that information from JWST is prompting re-evaluation of the current models." He didn't even READ the article he sent me.
first time i saw a headline like this i was quite annoyed cause i knew exactly what creationists were going to do with it. and of course i was right, i'd like to go scold the people that report on science. every time i see a BS headline, that site goes on my s list.
I hate the “failed ex-teacher” thing creationists argue against Dave. He wanted to make music, he stopped going to school, to make music. He still says he wants to make music, and that’s his end goal. He wasn’t a failed ex-teacher, and he didn’t fail his chemistry masters, he just wanted to be a musician.
And his band / music project "Simulated Sun" is actually quite good. You should watch "Tannhauser Gate": SMy1a1oes00 It's a tribute to 80s music and a homage to Blade Runner. It comes with an actual music video replaying scenes from Blade Runner and all characters are Dave :)
@@fomori2 I mean you can be honest about making bad arguments, but still make bad arguments. No apologist is honest about that of course, but it's technically possible
There is no such thing as a creationist or intelligent design "scientist". It's actually an oxymoron to mix either of those terms with the word scientist.
One can believe that nature has intent and conduct fine scientific work, as long as the phrase, "because nature has intent," is NOT used in the scientific work.
@@juanausensi499 In my country germany there exists a common response to that about brimstone butterflies called "Zitronenfalter", a word built out of "Zitronen" meaning lemons (like the butterfly's color) and "Falter" which is the noun of to fold so means someone folding something (like butterflies closing their wings). To believe in literal naming would be like believing this "Zitronenfalter" is a person busy folding lemons - ridiculous.
These two clowns utterly failed to debunk Professor Dave and show their own hands as dishonest and devoid of substance. I don't always like Professor Dave's tone as it can be condescending, but I trust him a lot more than creationists because I know Dave at least has some grad work in the areas he's talking about, and what he doesn't know, he makes the effort to learn.
Borrowing from Dapper Dino... there is no informed, honest or intelligent Creationist. If you are any two of those you can no longer be a Young Earth Creationist.
The idiots he is arguing against are nothing if not condescending, and frankly deserve 'that tone'. He's just tired of nonsense and giving them a taste of their own medicine.
Professor Dave is far off target about his atheism he couldn't hit the side of a barn if he was inside of the Barn. James your is giving us the straight talk about origen of life. God created life. There is more evidence for intelligent design than in Dave's theories that go nowhere
@@michaelgreenwell6355 hmm. Believe want you want to believe, I think lying is frowned apon in religion though isnt it? Or is it acceptable if its against "heresy"? Its also possible you actually believe your own words due strong faith (sometimes known as stubbornness) that blinds you. You dont want that heresy to get you so the head remains in the sand.
And there best argument is "the Bible is Gods word so stop lying"! Dude, just because something is in the Bible doesn't make it false. Like Gravity, and Evolution. The Bible is a spiritual book not a scientific.
"Science is a process" 10:42 debunks it so hard. Creationists fear that process could lead to changes, they suppress it until they feel it. Burn witches cause devil woman evil? Some feel yes, some no so religious groups differ but this is all there is. That is their process of thinking. God feels good, he must exist and than start thinking about why. I feel Harry Potters inivisible platform 9 3/4 in London exists. Proof! You cannot get there cause you are no wizard, see evidence, think about it! XD
@@John-nv5zyno you don’t. In the United States any academic post at a university is a professor. In other countries even secondary teachers are called professor(just means one who pro fesses something) phd / doctor are credentialed titles
It’s funny that these two guys think Dave isn’t really qualified considering that William Lane Craig thought he could debate Sean Carroll about the origin of the universe.
He's a prick because science deniers endanger human lives and spread suffering with their misinformation. He also feels insulted when people say bald face lies that spit in the face of hundreds of years of human scientific progress.
We would all be frustrated if we all had to do this for our job 24/7 especially when he gets bullied and targeted by a mass hate mob from Matt Walsh having people purposely be transphobic in the comments
"His real name is David James Farina, and even though he's named after both an apostle of Jesus Christ, and the King of Israel, he calls himself an atheist." Not only that, but he detests both breakfast mush and the silent-era Our Gang comedies! How does this even make sense?
Of course, disproving Prof Dave, and even the whole of currently accepted science, does not lend credence in any amount to "creationism". Creationism, Intelligent Design, etc, is not science, period.
Not bad.. being called Professor when you were little more than a teacher's assistant. And he's a complete dickhead IRL... F that clown. And I definitely give zero F's about a couple of creationist twits.
While it's certainly _possible_ that Dave's parents *intentionally* named him after "both an apostle of Jesus Christ and the king of Israel", I have no fkn idea what that would have to do with Dave being an atheist... My dad named me after the infant daughter of a sit-com character he found hilarious... I, have never believed those characters were real, or funny, which by smooth brained creationist grifter logic is... suspicious? Noteworthy? Something? Dorks. Also creationist 'scientist' is an oxymoron.
I like how they keep calling him "David James", like that's some sort of gotcha. It reminds me of the 2008 election, where Obama's political opponents continuously used his middle name.
Well, Dave didn't write any of the bible, so it's not worth watching his content. Most creationists haven't even read their own bible. They just regurgitate the information their rich grifting mega church leaders spew. Pass the plate! 😂
Creationists have a problem with what Prof Dave said ... well, who could have seen that coming? Dave states facts, that's probably why you don't like him.
Professor Dave is a bullshit artist and he doesn't have any scientific facts to back him up and used the se tired arguments for his silly atheist beliefs. He has nothing to offer anyone .he should have stayed with music classes
And yet, ironically, religion has most definitely changed. Most current Anglicans, for example, would have been at best imprisoned for heresy only five or six hundred years ago! Just to be clear: I’m not disagreeing with you, quite the contrary, it’s the religionists themselves who fail to recognise that even their beliefs are not written in stone when you look over a few generations.
my comment to those two went like this ''hi, i am a general physicist, and as much as i love physics i love art because i am also an artist, so i studied simulations, which i use to simulate things academically and use my education in simulation engines to make video games, i Actually had to get a 2nd degree in digital arts for that , and video games and any rendering of visual effects is art, does that mean i failed in physics ? no, some times people who work in science communications do jobs that bridge fields together and makes science more accessible to the public just as much as it does to people from unrelated fields, and how do we do that ? using things like art because when you study art, you study how humans see, understand and visualize things, art is the bridge between science and laymen in majority of cases and even in special conditions for people who are in very esoteric fields, the fact that you dont seem to understand this and want to make it a point against Dave goes to show how out of touch you are from any practical application of information and science, and what it means to be in a multifaceted field if you would like we can go over every nonsense thing you said, but the fact that you started the video by attacking the credentials of some one who dadicated time and energy to learn a discipline with your fake elitism as if your field does not work the same way goes to show how fake you are''
It really annoys me how they keep calling him David James like it's some insult. Instead it just makes them look like petty children who also don't understand what names are. Who calls people by their first and middle names? It's so awkward. If they really insist on the childish name game they should just call him David. The logic behind their insults is as strong as the logic defending their faith, so at least they're intellectually consistent.
@@danger.snakesperfectionist? To quote Professor Dave; the creationist god is sitting in the ocean putting together a trilobite because he is dissatisfied with the organisms he’s created thus far.
In my mind it prevents an argument imagine if it said he took 6 seconds, 'Why not 6 picoseconds' is still an argument, i guess he could've said 0, and its weird God gets tired and has to rest, which is literally a contradiction
So if the universe is a billion years older than we thought, how does that get it closer to the six thousand years that young earth creationists claim? 😆
- Evolutionists can't conclusively explain why Venus is rotating opposite direction! - Fine, what is your explanation? - Muh God did it for fun, obviosly!
I think this is the thing that pisses me off most about creationism in particular. It completely kills intellectual curiosity. Is our model for how planets form mistaken, or did something happen in the 3 billion years since its formation to change its rotation? Nah, god just being silly.
4:10 - You really missed a chance here by not putting in the clip of James Tour screaming MISTER FARINAA!! GO! NOW! GO! while Dave's face just shows irritated resignation at the fact he'll have to hear James shout incoherently for at least a while.
It is absurd to quote biblical passages, given that they prove nothing whatsoever. I am astonished by the fact that there are grown adults who uncritically swallow unsubstantiated biblical claims. There is a reason why I have only ever attended church for funerals, and got married in a registry office. Having never been expected to accept claims that couldn't be demonstrated to be factual, the Christian horsemen of the apocalypse fell at the first hurdle.
Go to bed it never happens. They make fools of themselves and as in typical theistic fashion they are profoundly proud of the arrogant ignorance they confuse with knowledge. They do better when sticking to constructing fallacy based arguments as proof of wizard then denigrating someone far more informed that they could ever hope to be.
I should mention, since we've started following the scientific method, not a single scientific theory has been completely proven false, but has instead been REFINED. They're acting like refining makes all science invalid, but anyone with half a brain cell knows that refinement is a critical part of any quality process. They know so little, they don't even know how little they know. That's where that awful arrogance comes from.
"Asteroids are from earth and the great flood" That's a new one, are he claiming it rained so hard that new minerals formed in some boulders and they flew off into space? "Insect and even simple animal life is most likely to be extremely rare in the entire universe, and again that's because of all the fine-tuning that we see in the universe"? How can he not hear the contradiction? Life is so rare because the universe is so finetuned (for life)?
I think they're claiming something like The Ark and the Darkness does, that water sprang forth from the deep in a catastrophic eruption. That kind of force would definitely cause rocks to fly into space. The problem is... that never happened!
IIRC, the guy who wrote that book is a scientist, but is also a god believer who was trying to make life improbable in support of OEC. I think one of the big factors was the claim that life couldn't form without a big moon causing tides. Sure.
Big Bang could be 100% disproved yet we would be nowhere closer to validating a young earth, a bearded father in the sky and Noah and his flood somehow lifting rocks into orbit.
@@Pmrace1960 I wonder if they'd classify that as a chimp, or an "ancient Israelite" God fearing true believer of the Old Book. You never can tell with these people.
I think the finetuning argument actually works against the god-claim. Why would god create such a huge desolate space devoid of live and presumably only one planet with livable conditions. Why is only our planet "fine-tuned" and all that infinitely huge space so dark and empty? It doesn't even appear to be fine tuned with all the deserts, huge bodys of water we can't live in. Godzilla walks in mysterious ways! Hail mothra!
@9:50 While "creationist" and "creationist science" might be exclusively Christian _terms_ the concepts of such are absolutely embraced and argued for by a not insignificant number of Muslims, as well. I would say in my experience I hear about 50% 'where did all the trees come from', and 'why are there still monkeys' arguments from Muslims.
The Christogram for Christ called CHI RHO is pronounced exactly like CAIRO the capital of Egypt. Chi is the Greek letter X and why we say Xmas. If you look at the great pyramid from aerial view you'll see the X symbol inside a square. There's a mystery that's been here since the foundation of the world.
Oh my glob, I'm less than 5 mins in, and this is some of the most blatant and dishonest poisoning of the well I've heard in a LONG time. I can see I am in for a real "treat". And by that I mean some real pain.
Funnily enough, I have enough information about that piece of cheese to know that it is a piece of cheese by looking at it, even with the holes. Their own meme to try and... Poke holes in evolution, proves that we know enough to come to a conclusion, despite not having the entire picture. Good self own. 10/10.
I am in college right now. I just finished taking general chemistry for science majors. Not only did I use Professor Dave's yt content to help me pass(With an A), the curriculum at my accredited school, uses Professor Dave's content. He's literally part of the lesson modules and he explains things better than my physical chemistry professor, who has a phd. He has a bachelor's in chemistry (no he didn't fail) AND a master's in science communication, which is not an arts degree, and frankly it's the perfect degree to do what he does. A PhD is not required to teach. Many colleges are schools of liberal arts, and they all have STEM departments. They're usually smaller and better than public universities. Institutions like Stanford and University of Chicago( which have two of the best science departments in the world) are liberal arts schools. It has nothing to do with being an art school or an art degree, as they're implying, and they KNOW that. They're banking their uneducated listeners don't. I'm starting calculus Monday, and I just went over my online learning module and surprise surprise, just saw another one of Dave's videos is part of that class as well. He's literally teaching college classes, that's a professor. Great breakdown btw.
Professor dave help me be the only one that passed my linear algebra course . My professor died from covid in the middle of the semester and the replacement professor didnt teach shit and just told us to read the book and come back on the final exam day
@@mesekkai right? His comment sections are filled with other people saying the same thing. Dude is a fantastic teacher and has literally helped millions of people pass their classes. These guys are dishonest AF
@@danger.snakes as usual, these guys are dishonest AF, they just know that their target audience is too st*pid to know the difference. I also find it funny they're selling their pseudoscience bs, while Dave has over a thousand top notch educational vids totally for free.
@@danger.snakes yeah these guys are dishonest AF. I also find it funny how they're shamelessly hawking their pseudoscience bs, while Dave has over a thousand top-notch educational videos totally for free.
I couldn't watch the debunk past the part where he said Dave was going to face an eternity of torture. Absolutely appalling people .Great work on showing these scumbags real agenda 👍🏻
I don't really care what the letters are that people have behind their name, nor do I care too much about their social skills or even whether they're liked or not. What I do care about is, is if they were right or wrong. Did Dave bring evidence to the table? Could he back up that evidence? What about his interlocutor? Could he bring any evidence to the table and back it up? These two jokers are just attacking his person, not so much what their assessment of the subject matter was, and if they (the debaters) were correct in their assessment of it. I don't care if the debate is between a high school dropout and a Nobel laureate. If the dropout is right and the Nobel Prize holder is wrong, then that makes him wrong, and the dropout is correct. This kind of feeble and childish mudslinging is just pathetic and immature in my opinion.
i have a BA in graphic design, i wanted to do the society of typographic designers exam, but you only get the award for one year - i so wanted to be Harry Nicholas BaSTD
@@HarryNicNicholasHah! I can put something like that behind my name due to the circumstances of my birth! Also, youtube's bigotry against my people is disgusting.
Its unfortunate that so many christians feel the need to misrepresent science to bolster their faith.They're missing the point of their own religion by doing so. Faith is all you need, and all you really have. Accept that the bible is ancient, and kind of insane. Cherry pick the wisdom and insights that suit you and get on with your life.
I can only dream of achieving the educational "failure" that Professor Dave have achieved, and these guys have no chance of even coming close to his level of education and knowledge.
Some people just talk that way and it's so annoying when people ask me or others to stop. I'm not being hateful, I just say fuck in most sentences as part of my vocabulary not to be mean.
@Zudovader yeah, i know what you mean. It's even worse when they act like it's a sign of a limited vocabulary or iq. On the bright side, these disrespectful fucks actually give profanity it's power.
Holy s**t, twenty minutes in and those guys haven't produced a single piece of argumentation. I'm not sure if i can stand other twenty minutes like these.
It makes me so uncomfortable that they keep calling Professor Dave "David James." It is really disrespectful since that is now how Dave introduces himself. I do not understand why it is so hard to respect someone's name.
I remember when being an atheist meant simply not believing in God and religion, and just ignoring it.. With the advent of social media we see a new kind of evangelical atheist emerging where it's not enough to just not believe. They seem to want to practice de - conversion techniques. It's all very strange
Yeah maybe Dave has mountains of evidence supporting his points, and maybe the overwhelming consensus of relevant experts agree, but have you considered this really special book instead?
I think they have a point about Professor Dave's name: People with 2 names from the Bible actually can't call themselves atheists. People with 1 name from the Bible can't be atheists but they can be agnostics. Them's the rules. So obviously David James is being disingenuous to call himself an atheist. Glad they were able to repeatedly call him out by using his first and middle Bible names /s
I’ve always found it insane that god will brings people into this world KNOWING they’re going to commit suicide but does it anyways, and then when they do commit suicide he eternally tortures them. Makes God seem like a sadistic monster
using science to prove the universe created itself is problematic because science is inherently limited to studying the natural world. It relies on empirical evidence and observation, which means it can't address questions about what might exist outside the universe or beyond the scope of natural laws. Science is a powerful tool for understanding the physical world, but it has its limitations when it comes to metaphysical or philosophical questions. Philosophical questions that level 500 elo chess rating struggling musician cannot answer
Character assassination seems to be the YECs main method. Jesus was supposed to have been a carpenter, but not a chair, a table, a door, a roof, apparently remains of his work. Not even a crutch to help him into the sunset ! Just sneering and smugness is what I got from these guys.
As a mechanical engineer I am embarrassed that engineers always seem to think they're qualified to prove/disprove philosophical or religious topics touting their education. I spent exactly zero hours doing coursework on those topics as I am sure is the case for the majority of engineers.
I am a regular viewer of Prof. Dave's videos, especially the ones focused on the raw facts on biological systems and chemistry, and I am watching this video, and you're right! These guys ARE morons. I wonder when they're gonna learn that just saying something doesn't automatically make it true. You have to come with receipts.
While we don't really know why Venus rotates on its axis backward, with suggestions of things like a collision with another large body, or possible tidal forces on the very thick atmosphere dragging the planet slower or a combination of things. We do know, though, that it orbits the Sun in the same direction as all the other planets, which is from the spiraling in of the nebula that formed our solar system. If Venus orbited the Sun the opposite direction, that would be a problem for science to solve, but the rotation of the planet has many potential explanations that don't refute the nebula model of planetary formation.
Prof Dave’s first ever video about Tour was very respectful. That respect wasn’t reciprocated. There’s really no room for any of them to complain about “ad homeniem” (not really), as they are throwing stones inside glass houses.
Uhmm... yes, Tour behaves like an animal in that debate, but so does Mr. Farina. He attacks not only his opponent explicitly calling him a liar, fraud etc (which even if true doesn't help keeping the debate civilized), but also being openly aggressive and condescending towards the audience for daring to applaud the other party with disgusting remarks like: "you don't understand sh*t". Is this the way to "teach and educate" to you? Being correct doesn't justify any of that. Mr. Farina has no right whatsoever to call himself professor, sorry. Personally I find it quite dishonest too and I'm willing to bet that if it was a creationist doing it you would have something to object. How about Kent Hovind, for example?
Seeing several guys i know, who trained constantly and were in incredibly good shape get on roids to get bigger was a sad thing to see. They were all in their mid to late 20s. Its tragic seeing it happen to people
Notice that they seem to be implying that if there is a disagreement about the universe being 13.7 billion years old versus 13.4 billion years old it must mean that it is actually 6,000 years old? Creationists do this all the time.
"His (James tour) gentleman like introduction and post script" That is a very nice way to say: He tried to sweet talk dave, screamed like a lunatic for 95% of the debate and then tried to end of with an appeal to pity.
How can an engineer possibly not think that modifying ideas based on new information is a valuable strategy? Should we just base all modern engineering on our understandings of material science from the 2nd century? When a dam fails due to some overlooked or misunderstood principle of engineering should we not study it, and adjust the our understanding and change our best practices? It’s actually kind of concerning that an engineer would think this way. I just hope he doesn’t design anything that anyone’s lives depend on…
He literally was a professor. He taught chemistry at a college. In the US, people who teach college-level classes in a subject are called professors. Ergo, Dave is, or at least was, a professor. His level of education doesn't factor onto it at all. One of the people who taught history at the university I went to only had a Master's. What did I call him? PROFESSOR! In the US its a title of respect, not academic achievement.
Venus in retrograde usually refers to the planet's orbit and the observation as Venus appears to move one way and then backward in the sky from the Earth's perspective (it can also refer to the rotation). Which was a problem for the geocentric model because it made predicting a planet's position in the sky very difficult. Which is why astronomers (scientists) realised the Earth must revolve around the sun and the heliocentric model was the correct one. Another example of science having to adjust a hypothesis to fit the observations - because that's what science does. And unsurprisingly the heliocentric model was probably delayed for over 1500 years or so because of ... religion. The Catholic church called it heresy that the Earth wasn't the centre of the universe. It took over 100 years for Copernicus theory (a devout Catholic) based on a mathematical model to be widely accepted. But the idea of the Sun being the centre of the solar system had actually been proposed as early as the 3rd Century BC. Now, on to Venus's rotation (which is basically half a Venus year). Why is it the opposite of every other planet? And so slow? Well it ain't a Creator. The current theory, which seems to work with models, is not that it was hit by something that spun it backwards as ridiculed by our not so young creationists. No, it's the friction created by the solar wind on Venus's very thick atmosphere, caused by it's very weak magnetosphere.
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I feel like a masters degree in science education qualifies someone to make videos on science education. Am I missing something?
You're being too rational. First, you have to stop thinking. Then, you have to be outright delusional. Only then will you understand.
No you're not, you're exactly right! I'm in college right now I just finished taking general chemistry for science majors and Dave's videos are literally part of the class curriculum. He has a bachelor's in chemistry( he didn't fail) and a masters in science education which is actually perfect for what he does. You don't have to have a PhD to teach, and he's actually better than my chemistry professor, who does have one. She's the one who put his videos in the learning modules lol. These guys are being dishonest AF, but they know their target audience won't be able to tell the difference.
Yes you need to believe in talking snakes and donkeys and a man living in the belly of a fish. Without fallacy demonstrated proofs in your resume you’re not qualified to discuss science or the scientific method.
it certainly qualifies him as equal if not more than someone like --Kent Hovind with mere physics bachelor degree or-- (retracted. i've been factchecked that hovind doesnt even have that. can't find a relevant degree in any natural sciences to even give him credit) Stephen Meyer with 'irrelevant' education in philosophy of science, earth science, and physics when it comes him discussing genetics
i have a bachelor of science and was required to complete biochemistry, organic chemistry, genetics, ecology, & vertebrate morphology with a heavy focus on cladistics
his coverage was not just factually in line with academic material. he even managed to add supplementary knowledge to my existing understanding.
to demonstrate: his intricate understanding of haeckel's biogenetic law and where specifically haeckel got right or wrong is so current that it is even better and more accurate than what was taught when i was in morphology class
anyone who has completed basic biochemistry can definitely tell you that creationist complain about 2nd thermodynamic law is unsubstatiated since as Dave pointed out, spontaenity of a reaction doesnt just depend on the local entropy change but also on total change in heat. so in fact reactions that cause lower entropy can happen naturally without artificial intervention
even his debunking of the idea that genetic information cannot increase relies simply on elementary genetic knowledge of simple gene duplication that creationists are too lazy to educate themselves on
@GrammeStudio I know you're not disagreeing, but just a heads up, not sure where you're getting your information from, but Kent Hovind absolutely does NOT have a BSc in physics lol. The closest he comes to that is a "bachelors" in Christian education from an unaccredited Baptist college and a totally bogus PhD in education from another unaccredited Christian diploma mill. None of his "degrees" even come close to being legit. Dave has a masters in science education from Cal state.
Prof Dave's ruthless takedowns of creationists and flat earthers are outstanding.
he really triggers them
He is phenomenal at what he does
he takes no prisoners
@@danger.snakes I had to look it up, but I learned about the Salem hypothesis today thanks to you.
His debate with Jim Tour was brutal, he turned Tour into a screaming ranting idiot.
My dad proudly told me the JWST proved the big bang never happened. I read the article he sent me and I was like, "All this says is that information from JWST is prompting re-evaluation of the current models." He didn't even READ the article he sent me.
They have a suspiciously hard time reading beyond headlines. It's almost like they don't want to know.
@@danger.snakes
They don't even read the headlines, they just believe what their scammer/brainwasher tells them it says.
My YEC coworker did the exact same thing! Lmao. Gotta be dishonest/wilfully ignorant to be a Creationist 😉
Headlines are often extremely misleading. They're written to get attention, not to convey information about what is in the article.
first time i saw a headline like this i was quite annoyed cause i knew exactly what creationists were going to do with it. and of course i was right, i'd like to go scold the people that report on science. every time i see a BS headline, that site goes on my s list.
I hate the “failed ex-teacher” thing creationists argue against Dave. He wanted to make music, he stopped going to school, to make music. He still says he wants to make music, and that’s his end goal. He wasn’t a failed ex-teacher, and he didn’t fail his chemistry masters, he just wanted to be a musician.
You mean to tell me that professional liars told a LIE????!!!! GASP!
And his band / music project "Simulated Sun" is actually quite good. You should watch "Tannhauser Gate": SMy1a1oes00
It's a tribute to 80s music and a homage to Blade Runner.
It comes with an actual music video replaying scenes from Blade Runner and all characters are Dave :)
You cant be an apologist and be honest... they are mutually exclusive.
@@fomori2 I mean you can be honest about making bad arguments, but still make bad arguments. No apologist is honest about that of course, but it's technically possible
He couldn't even make music either! Wow!
There is no such thing as a creationist or intelligent design "scientist". It's actually an oxymoron to mix either of those terms with the word scientist.
It's a euphemism for "lying crank".
One can believe that nature has intent and conduct fine scientific work, as long as the phrase, "because nature has intent," is NOT used in the scientific work.
Based on James Tour, it seems Professor Dave's actual name is "MISTER FARINA!"
😂 dude he was yelling that the whole time
Farina, that means 'flour' in latin, that it's used to make bread, like the one eaten by Jesus and his disciples. So, checkmate, atheists, i guess...
@@juanausensi499 In my country germany there exists a common response to that about brimstone butterflies called "Zitronenfalter", a word built out of "Zitronen" meaning lemons (like the butterfly's color) and "Falter" which is the noun of to fold so means someone folding something (like butterflies closing their wings).
To believe in literal naming would be like believing this "Zitronenfalter" is a person busy folding lemons - ridiculous.
@@schabe6419 I agree. Trying to win an argument pointing to the etimology of the name of the adversary is beyond ridiculous.
These two clowns utterly failed to debunk Professor Dave and show their own hands as dishonest and devoid of substance. I don't always like Professor Dave's tone as it can be condescending, but I trust him a lot more than creationists because I know Dave at least has some grad work in the areas he's talking about, and what he doesn't know, he makes the effort to learn.
Professor Dave is intellectually honest. That, alone, makes him far superior to any of the creationist set.
Borrowing from Dapper Dino... there is no informed, honest or intelligent Creationist. If you are any two of those you can no longer be a Young Earth Creationist.
The idiots he is arguing against are nothing if not condescending, and frankly deserve 'that tone'. He's just tired of nonsense and giving them a taste of their own medicine.
Professor Dave is far off target about his atheism he couldn't hit the side of a barn if he was inside of the Barn. James your is giving us the straight talk about origen of life. God created life. There is more evidence for intelligent design than in Dave's theories that go nowhere
@@michaelgreenwell6355 hmm. Believe want you want to believe, I think lying is frowned apon in religion though isnt it? Or is it acceptable if its against "heresy"? Its also possible you actually believe your own words due strong faith (sometimes known as stubbornness) that blinds you. You dont want that heresy to get you so the head remains in the sand.
The only people creationists ever successfully debunk is themselves.
😂
And there best argument is "the Bible is Gods word so stop lying"! Dude, just because something is in the Bible doesn't make it false. Like Gravity, and Evolution. The Bible is a spiritual book not a scientific.
They’re incredibly good at it, though; you gotta give them that 🙂↔️
Unintentionally, always.
"Science is a process" 10:42 debunks it so hard. Creationists fear that process could lead to changes, they suppress it until they feel it.
Burn witches cause devil woman evil? Some feel yes, some no so religious groups differ but this is all there is. That is their process of thinking. God feels good, he must exist and than start thinking about why. I feel Harry Potters inivisible platform 9 3/4 in London exists. Proof! You cannot get there cause you are no wizard, see evidence, think about it! XD
If Kent Hovind can call himself a doctor, then Professor Dave can call himself a professor.
But never a convict... which is the only thing he actually is.
Well since he taught at a college he also earned being called professor.
@@catpoke9557 What?! So I don't have to have any particular qualifications to be a physics professor?
@@John-nv5zyno you don’t. In the United States any academic post at a university is a professor. In other countries even secondary teachers are called professor(just means one who pro fesses something) phd / doctor are credentialed titles
If Kent hovind can call himself doctor, professor dave can call himself President of Science
Professor Dave is sometimes a bit of a prick. But that's the only valid argument creationists have against him.
He gets frustrated with nonsense.
It’s funny that these two guys think Dave isn’t really qualified considering that William Lane Craig thought he could debate Sean Carroll about the origin of the universe.
He's a prick because science deniers endanger human lives and spread suffering with their misinformation. He also feels insulted when people say bald face lies that spit in the face of hundreds of years of human scientific progress.
I prefer him to be a prick when dealing with this concrete eating clowns
We would all be frustrated if we all had to do this for our job 24/7 especially when he gets bullied and targeted by a mass hate mob from Matt Walsh having people purposely be transphobic in the comments
"His real name is David James Farina, and even though he's named after both an apostle of Jesus Christ, and the King of Israel, he calls himself an atheist."
Not only that, but he detests both breakfast mush and the silent-era Our Gang comedies! How does this even make sense?
Of course, disproving Prof Dave, and even the whole of currently accepted science, does not lend credence in any amount to "creationism".
Creationism, Intelligent Design, etc, is not science, period.
Even if the entirety of modern science were suddenly overthrown by new ideas, those new ideas would not be creationist in orientation
@@danger.snakes exactly what I'm trying to say.
Also, funnily enough, professor is what Dave's students were _supposed_ to call him. And did so. Because that was how that institution worked.
Not surprising they've got his story wrong in numerous places. They got everything else wrong.
@@danger.snakes Wrong Answers Only is their SOP, yep.
Not bad.. being called Professor when you were little more than a teacher's assistant. And he's a complete dickhead IRL... F that clown. And I definitely give zero F's about a couple of creationist twits.
A Viking centrist is a new one on me!
While it's certainly _possible_ that Dave's parents *intentionally* named him after "both an apostle of Jesus Christ and the king of Israel", I have no fkn idea what that would have to do with Dave being an atheist...
My dad named me after the infant daughter of a sit-com character he found hilarious...
I, have never believed those characters were real, or funny, which by smooth brained creationist grifter logic is... suspicious? Noteworthy? Something?
Dorks.
Also creationist 'scientist' is an oxymoron.
You must be a sitcomist
Well, I'm an Asit-comist, despite my father's best efforts in naming me, I totally shunned it all.
As all creationists know, we pick our own names before we're born.
...🤦🏻
@@danger.snakes I'm named after a chemical reaction...
Heya, I had commented on your vid about alcoholism a while back. Tomorrow is gonna be 50 days sober for me
Doing good! Congrats!
Super! Keep going.
You dropped this 👑
Nice!
Good job 🙂👍
Lol, James Tor spent the ENTIRE debate screaming.
He's an angry boy
@@danger.snakes I'm an angry boy. I'm also mentally ill. But Tour is a lunatic bat-shit gorilla clown doing its best impersonation of Alex Jones
Mr. FARINA
Mister Farina, Go, Go, Go, 😭
BUT CAN YOU DRAW IT ON THE BOARD!
Them saying that Dave has "not a lot of class" straight after saying how "gentlemanly" Tour is, is just way too funny for me.
Gentlemanlylike (sic!) even
I like how they keep calling him "David James", like that's some sort of gotcha. It reminds me of the 2008 election, where Obama's political opponents continuously used his middle name.
I suspect it's their protection from their viewers being able to look him up, they'll only remember him as that, lol
What an embarrasment that was! Obama nailed it though!
"Barack HUSSEIN Oh-BOMMA!"
Lucky for Dave, these 2 goofs have given the Bible as much deep diving as Dave’s content.
Professional trash talkers, that's what they are.
step one... when "debunking someone's content", watch the content first
Too much effort for creationists!
I noticed that also. I guess they were scared that they might learn something.
Well, Dave didn't write any of the bible, so it's not worth watching his content. Most creationists haven't even read their own bible. They just regurgitate the information their rich grifting mega church leaders spew. Pass the plate! 😂
Creationists have a problem with what Prof Dave said ... well, who could have seen that coming? Dave states facts, that's probably why you don't like him.
Naturally, they have no proper response.
Professor Dave is a bullshit artist and he doesn't have any scientific facts to back him up and used the se tired arguments for his silly atheist beliefs. He has nothing to offer anyone
.he should have stayed with music classes
when all you have is thousand year old dogma, you can't comprehend that science changes, updates, corrects and refines constantly.
In fact, to do so would be fatal to the dogma
And yet, ironically, religion has most definitely changed. Most current Anglicans, for example, would have been at best imprisoned for heresy only five or six hundred years ago!
Just to be clear: I’m not disagreeing with you, quite the contrary, it’s the religionists themselves who fail to recognise that even their beliefs are not written in stone when you look over a few generations.
@@lidbass As a former Anglican that is so very true on the amount of change in theology that has occurred.
ironically, early christian fathers used to read the creation myth non-literally yet many modern christians read it literally.
Exactly!
my comment to those two went like this
''hi, i am a general physicist, and as much as i love physics i love art because i am also an artist, so i studied simulations, which i use to simulate things academically and use my education in simulation engines to make video games, i Actually had to get a 2nd degree in digital arts for that , and video games and any rendering of visual effects is art, does that mean i failed in physics ? no, some times people who work in science communications do jobs that bridge fields together and makes science more accessible to the public just as much as it does to people from unrelated fields, and how do we do that ? using things like art because when you study art, you study how humans see, understand and visualize things, art is the bridge between science and laymen in majority of cases and even in special conditions for people who are in very esoteric fields, the fact that you dont seem to understand this and want to make it a point against Dave goes to show how out of touch you are from any practical application of information and science, and what it means to be in a multifaceted field
if you would like we can go over every nonsense thing you said, but the fact that you started the video by attacking the credentials of some one who dadicated time and energy to learn a discipline with your fake elitism as if your field does not work the same way goes to show how fake you are''
They're not going to respond in any remotely reasonable way, of course
These creationists confirm that smugness and arrogance leads to ignorance.
It really annoys me how they keep calling him David James like it's some insult. Instead it just makes them look like petty children who also don't understand what names are. Who calls people by their first and middle names? It's so awkward. If they really insist on the childish name game they should just call him David.
The logic behind their insults is as strong as the logic defending their faith, so at least they're intellectually consistent.
David James Hussein
you frustrated atheist are an insult to all the people got only God in their life. and that is also becauser your into a toxic cult.
@@danger.snakesThat's the truth!
"Evidences" is front group slang.
You only get the _real good sht_ from the slingers who say "datums."
But, ya gotta know a guy....
DATUMS???
Can... can I get some datums, bruh? I have like $15
You have to examine every datum 😂
Donde estas los datos? Tengo deniro.
Why would an omnipotent being take 6 days to create anything? How about 6 seconds? Or 6 nanoseconds? -without having to "rest."
He's an artist. A perfectionist. Shame it all went so poorly.
He hadn't invented omnipotence yet
@@danger.snakesperfectionist? To quote Professor Dave; the creationist god is sitting in the ocean putting together a trilobite because he is dissatisfied with the organisms he’s created thus far.
In my mind it prevents an argument imagine if it said he took 6 seconds, 'Why not 6 picoseconds' is still an argument, i guess he could've said 0, and its weird God gets tired and has to rest, which is literally a contradiction
So if the universe is a billion years older than we thought, how does that get it closer to the six thousand years that young earth creationists claim? 😆
Did you not see the Swiss cheese?
@@heruraha93But Chewbacca is a wookiee from the planet Endor who rides a giant chicken fighting natsocs.
The glove does not fit, you must acquit!
So i saw those guys' video before this one, and left basically the same comment lol
@@heruraha93 No, my dog wolfed it down to quickly.
(I literally just gave her some before reading this comment).
@@DanielMWJ And my dog makes a noise like a tiny Chewbacca (baby Wookie) would.
- Evolutionists can't conclusively explain why Venus is rotating opposite direction!
- Fine, what is your explanation?
- Muh God did it for fun, obviosly!
Not a planet, you spin a dreidel.
I think this is the thing that pisses me off most about creationism in particular. It completely kills intellectual curiosity. Is our model for how planets form mistaken, or did something happen in the 3 billion years since its formation to change its rotation? Nah, god just being silly.
They act like evolution is supposed to explain why water doesn't contract under 4°C to 0°C and then why it starts contracting again.
I guess evolution does not refute the "hypothesis" that some intelligent being created the solar system. It leaves that to astronomy.
4:10 - You really missed a chance here by not putting in the clip of James Tour screaming MISTER FARINAA!! GO! NOW! GO! while Dave's face just shows irritated resignation at the fact he'll have to hear James shout incoherently for at least a while.
I've seen that video so many times I couldn't bear to see it again. That's something I have in common with Fred and Doug.
Don't know your channel. First time YT served it up to me.
But thanks for tackling these two dishonest scumbags.
Happy to have you here however long you stay!
Besides being named for the brother of Jesus and a king of Israel he is also named for a hot breakfast cereal. Checkmate atheists!
And a LITTLE RASCALS character! 🙂 Everyone knows Buckwheat, but there was also a "Farina" character. His real names was Allen Hoskins.
@@discontinuedmodel232 Sadly I am old enough to remember Farina.
It is absurd to quote biblical passages, given that they prove nothing whatsoever. I am astonished by the fact that there are grown adults who uncritically swallow unsubstantiated biblical claims. There is a reason why I have only ever attended church for funerals, and got married in a registry office. Having never been expected to accept claims that couldn't be demonstrated to be factual, the Christian horsemen of the apocalypse fell at the first hurdle.
dude, you are not well... what is wrong with you? you seem to have only negative vibes.
@@D.MarcelloRadiceI believe you have the cancer of religiosity. It will eat your mind & cause you to hate & fear everything.
#pityfulldelusions
Creationist: Science is completely wrong!
Also Creationist: "I'm sick. I better go to a doctor for some voodoo medical science!"
I love the way Professor Dave talks to creationist and flat earthers. He doesn't entertain their b.s. at all.
Watching that James Tor debate was akin to a 2 year old throwing a temper-tantrum when they didn't get the candy they wanted in a grocery store.
dave lost that debate
Professor dave debunked? I cant wait to see this!
It's all over for Professor Dave, courtesy of... Fred and Doug? Sure, whatever, we'll go with that.
Go to bed it never happens. They make fools of themselves and as in typical theistic fashion they are profoundly proud of the arrogant ignorance they confuse with knowledge. They do better when sticking to constructing fallacy based arguments as proof of wizard then denigrating someone far more informed that they could ever hope to be.
I should mention, since we've started following the scientific method, not a single scientific theory has been completely proven false, but has instead been REFINED. They're acting like refining makes all science invalid, but anyone with half a brain cell knows that refinement is a critical part of any quality process. They know so little, they don't even know how little they know. That's where that awful arrogance comes from.
@@catpoke9557 Yeah, exactly!
@@catpoke9557 Love that analogy!
Creationists have nothing in the way of evidence so they resort to insults every time.
"Asteroids are from earth and the great flood"
That's a new one, are he claiming it rained so hard that new minerals formed in some boulders and they flew off into space?
"Insect and even simple animal life is most likely to be extremely rare in the entire universe, and again that's because of all the fine-tuning that we see in the universe"?
How can he not hear the contradiction? Life is so rare because the universe is so finetuned (for life)?
I think they're claiming something like The Ark and the Darkness does, that water sprang forth from the deep in a catastrophic eruption. That kind of force would definitely cause rocks to fly into space. The problem is... that never happened!
What, can't you see all that... Uhhh finetuned extremely deadly vaccum of space and amonia-based atmospheres are a life thing?
IIRC, the guy who wrote that book is a scientist, but is also a god believer who was trying to make life improbable in support of OEC. I think one of the big factors was the claim that life couldn't form without a big moon causing tides. Sure.
Love the sass. I'm sick of dudes like this, they deserve gloves off action.
Well done London. 👏👏
Here's hoping they issue a response and we get an even more fun round 2!
Big Bang could be 100% disproved yet we would be nowhere closer to validating a young earth, a bearded father in the sky and Noah and his flood somehow lifting rocks into orbit.
@@Pmrace1960 I wonder if they'd classify that as a chimp, or an "ancient Israelite" God fearing true believer of the Old Book. You never can tell with these people.
A lot of scienctists are giving other thoeries but that is still far from 6k
@@Dystopikachu what part of its from 1.8 million years is tripping you up??........
I think the finetuning argument actually works against the god-claim. Why would god create such a huge desolate space devoid of live and presumably only one planet with livable conditions. Why is only our planet "fine-tuned" and all that infinitely huge space so dark and empty? It doesn't even appear to be fine tuned with all the deserts, huge bodys of water we can't live in.
Godzilla walks in mysterious ways! Hail mothra!
Exactly.
Also, god with all the attributes they claim wouldn't need to fine tune a Universe, it should just do what the god commanded it to do.
@@pineapplepenumbra Of course! Now i picture an old man sitting next to a radio trying to get to the right Channel! XD
@@Stefan-jo1sz That's a good image.
(That's what the old man said, too, finally, as it was an old tunable TV and not a radio).
@@pineapplepenumbra let there be light! (and he saw , the flickering screen was good and full of Columbo reruns...)
@@Stefan-jo1sz I was never keen on Columbo I'm afraid.
When you have to attack the messenger vs the message...
Classic move of someone in a weak position
I’m going to email Professor Dave about this. See what he thinks about this if he’s willing to deal with these clowns.
Dave has already seen this response video and left a comment.
Fellow DJ here, we can be atheists y'know
No, sorry, that's not allowed. Fred and Doug said it isn't.
@@danger.snakes I'm not your guy, buddy!
Creations has mastered the art of projection.
Professor Dave calls himself Professor because he taught chemistry in college, you know, as a professor. Isnt lying a sin?
he got fired because he was bad at it and thought making music was the wave
@Swagtastic225 You just pull that out of your ass or do you have proof other than your fee fees?
His real name is Dave Farina. Yeah, I know, Tour screamed it several times.
6:23 OMG Boss Hogg 🤣 perfect, thanks for that.
yeeeeeeeeehaw
@9:50
While "creationist" and "creationist science" might be exclusively Christian _terms_ the concepts of such are absolutely embraced and argued for by a not insignificant number of Muslims, as well.
I would say in my experience I hear about 50% 'where did all the trees come from', and 'why are there still monkeys' arguments from Muslims.
Think of the motherfucking dandelions!
They are newcommers in the fine art of apologetics, Christianity is older so it learned to make excuses earlier.
“His Arts Degree” The guy doesn’t even know what a BA is!
The Christogram for Christ called CHI RHO is pronounced exactly like CAIRO the capital of Egypt. Chi is the Greek letter X and why we say Xmas. If you look at the great pyramid from aerial view you'll see the X symbol inside a square. There's a mystery that's been here since the foundation of the world.
Bro the Pyramids have existed for less than 6,000 years and the world is 4.5 billion years old
Oh my glob, I'm less than 5 mins in, and this is some of the most blatant and dishonest poisoning of the well I've heard in a LONG time. I can see I am in for a real "treat". And by that I mean some real pain.
Oh yeah. It just gets worse! Enjoy!
Funnily enough, I have enough information about that piece of cheese to know that it is a piece of cheese by looking at it, even with the holes.
Their own meme to try and... Poke holes in evolution, proves that we know enough to come to a conclusion, despite not having the entire picture.
Good self own. 10/10.
“No No Word”. Not sure why that cracked me up so bad. 😂
The cope is strong with these ones.
“Christian liars” is redundant.
Lying for the Lord
3:45 “what I’m told are decent quality videos.” They can’t even be asked to actually watch the videos and content they’re attempting to debunk.
I am in college right now. I just finished taking general chemistry for science majors. Not only did I use Professor Dave's yt content to help me pass(With an A), the curriculum at my accredited school, uses Professor Dave's content. He's literally part of the lesson modules and he explains things better than my physical chemistry professor, who has a phd. He has a bachelor's in chemistry (no he didn't fail) AND a master's in science communication, which is not an arts degree, and frankly it's the perfect degree to do what he does. A PhD is not required to teach. Many colleges are schools of liberal arts, and they all have STEM departments. They're usually smaller and better than public universities. Institutions like Stanford and University of Chicago( which have two of the best science departments in the world) are liberal arts schools. It has nothing to do with being an art school or an art degree, as they're implying, and they KNOW that. They're banking their uneducated listeners don't. I'm starting calculus Monday, and I just went over my online learning module and surprise surprise, just saw another one of Dave's videos is part of that class as well. He's literally teaching college classes, that's a professor.
Great breakdown btw.
Professor dave help me be the only one that passed my linear algebra course .
My professor died from covid in the middle of the semester and the replacement professor didnt teach shit and just told us to read the book and come back on the final exam day
@@mesekkai right? His comment sections are filled with other people saying the same thing. Dude is a fantastic teacher and has literally helped millions of people pass their classes. These guys are dishonest AF
Professor Dave is a great guy and great educator, obviously. This causes them some sadness.
@@danger.snakes as usual, these guys are dishonest AF, they just know that their target audience is too st*pid to know the difference. I also find it funny they're selling their pseudoscience bs, while Dave has over a thousand top notch educational vids totally for free.
@@danger.snakes yeah these guys are dishonest AF. I also find it funny how they're shamelessly hawking their pseudoscience bs, while Dave has over a thousand top-notch educational videos totally for free.
Professor dave help me pass my linear algebra class after my professor died from covid in the middle of the semester
Sorry about your professor but congratulations on passing anyway!
I couldn't watch the debunk past the part where he said Dave was going to face an eternity of torture. Absolutely appalling people .Great work on showing these scumbags real agenda 👍🏻
I know, right! They REJECT Thor and will spend ETERNITY with Mjǫllnir rammed up their fundaments . . . SIDEWAYS!!!!1!!
What?
Thanks homie, much appreciated
They're so condescending it was just a perfect example of their being at the top of the Dunning Kruger effect challenge .
"where he said Dave was going to face an eternity of torture."
He's going to be condemned to arguing with creationists for all eternity...?
@@pineapplepenumbra that's pretty scary 😱
I don't really care what the letters are that people have behind their name, nor do I care too much about their social skills or even whether they're liked or not. What I do care about is, is if they were right or wrong. Did Dave bring evidence to the table? Could he back up that evidence?
What about his interlocutor? Could he bring any evidence to the table and back it up?
These two jokers are just attacking his person, not so much what their assessment of the subject matter was, and if they (the debaters) were correct in their assessment of it.
I don't care if the debate is between a high school dropout and a Nobel laureate. If the dropout is right and the Nobel Prize holder is wrong, then that makes him wrong, and the dropout is correct.
This kind of feeble and childish mudslinging is just pathetic and immature in my opinion.
These are not terribly well-informed people so they have to resort to personal attacks. Laughter and terrible memes is the best they've got.
i have a BA in graphic design, i wanted to do the society of typographic designers exam, but you only get the award for one year - i so wanted to be Harry Nicholas BaSTD
@@HarryNicNicholasHah! I get to write ", Bastard" after my name due to circumstances of my birth!
@@HarryNicNicholasHah! I get to write ", Bastard" after my name due to circumstances of my birth!
@@HarryNicNicholasHah! I can put something like that behind my name due to the circumstances of my birth!
Also, youtube's bigotry against my people is disgusting.
Creationists debunking anything is hilarious
The irony of creationists showing evolution as cheese with holes in it: their cheese is non-existent!
i thought they were talking about the origin of the universe, they seem confused.
The cheese is a lie
Its unfortunate that so many christians feel the need to misrepresent science to bolster their faith.They're missing the point of their own religion by doing so. Faith is all you need, and all you really have.
Accept that the bible is ancient, and kind of insane. Cherry pick the wisdom and insights that suit you and get on with your life.
They managed to be more cringe than the Tour debate 🫡
That takes some doin!
I can only dream of achieving the educational "failure" that Professor Dave have achieved, and these guys have no chance of even coming close to his level of education and knowledge.
4:48 I've said on many occasions only a fool is offended by profanity without regard to context
Some people just talk that way and it's so annoying when people ask me or others to stop. I'm not being hateful, I just say fuck in most sentences as part of my vocabulary not to be mean.
@Zudovader yeah, i know what you mean. It's even worse when they act like it's a sign of a limited vocabulary or iq. On the bright side, these disrespectful fucks actually give profanity it's power.
These are pearl clutchers puritans, what do you expect of them 😂
@sava-smth well, I would expect them to clutch their pearls, but that doesn't mean I have to like it
@@ZudovaderI try to cram as much Saxon into my sentences as possible 👍
The CMB was predicted before it was detected, if I recall it correctly.
Correct. Professor Dave pointed this out in his video.
Holy s**t, twenty minutes in and those guys haven't produced a single piece of argumentation. I'm not sure if i can stand other twenty minutes like these.
Debunking Prof. Dave is like proving god:
Mission impossible.
It makes me so uncomfortable that they keep calling Professor Dave "David James." It is really disrespectful since that is now how Dave introduces himself. I do not understand why it is so hard to respect someone's name.
This isn’t even mature enough to be a hit piece. They just keep calling Dave a doo doo head and suckling at tour’s nethers.
NEVER trust anything a creationist says about science.
I remember when being an atheist meant simply not believing in God and religion, and just ignoring it.. With the advent of social media we see a new kind of evangelical atheist emerging where it's not enough to just not believe. They seem to want to practice de - conversion techniques. It's all very strange
I'm sure they keep calling him "David James" is so their followers can't find him to fact-check them! 😂😂😂
Yeah maybe Dave has mountains of evidence supporting his points, and maybe the overwhelming consensus of relevant experts agree, but have you considered this really special book instead?
History of the Marvel Universe - issue #1?
I think they have a point about Professor Dave's name: People with 2 names from the Bible actually can't call themselves atheists. People with 1 name from the Bible can't be atheists but they can be agnostics. Them's the rules.
So obviously David James is being disingenuous to call himself an atheist. Glad they were able to repeatedly call him out by using his first and middle Bible names /s
Buffoons are like balls, they are normally in pairs.
Gentleman like introduction ... I think that Dave was the most level headed.. James Tour was a really train wreck
Can you imagine believing you are moral and at the same time condoning eternal torture cognitive dissonance is real
I’ve always found it insane that god will brings people into this world KNOWING they’re going to commit suicide but does it anyways, and then when they do commit suicide he eternally tortures them. Makes God seem like a sadistic monster
@@keeferChiefer well he has to exist to be sadistic
using science to prove the universe created itself is problematic because science is inherently limited to studying the natural world. It relies on empirical evidence and observation, which means it can't address questions about what might exist outside the universe or beyond the scope of natural laws. Science is a powerful tool for understanding the physical world, but it has its limitations when it comes to metaphysical or philosophical questions. Philosophical questions that level 500 elo chess rating struggling musician cannot answer
Character assassination seems to be the YECs main method. Jesus was supposed to have been a carpenter, but not a chair, a table, a door, a roof, apparently remains of his work. Not even a crutch to help him into the sunset ! Just sneering and smugness is what I got from these guys.
When you don't have evidence you kind of have no option but to go for character attacks
As a mechanical engineer I am embarrassed that engineers always seem to think they're qualified to prove/disprove philosophical or religious topics touting their education. I spent exactly zero hours doing coursework on those topics as I am sure is the case for the majority of engineers.
I am a regular viewer of Prof. Dave's videos, especially the ones focused on the raw facts on biological systems and chemistry, and I am watching this video, and you're right! These guys ARE morons. I wonder when they're gonna learn that just saying something doesn't automatically make it true. You have to come with receipts.
Hey whats the banner in your background
Generic baphomet/pentagram. Technically associated with Anton LaVey's Church of Satan but I just think it looks cool.
While we don't really know why Venus rotates on its axis backward, with suggestions of things like a collision with another large body, or possible tidal forces on the very thick atmosphere dragging the planet slower or a combination of things. We do know, though, that it orbits the Sun in the same direction as all the other planets, which is from the spiraling in of the nebula that formed our solar system. If Venus orbited the Sun the opposite direction, that would be a problem for science to solve, but the rotation of the planet has many potential explanations that don't refute the nebula model of planetary formation.
Any naturalistic explanation is inherently more credible than their joking wink wink nudge nudge Jesus has a sense of humor bit
Of course he understands that a retrograde orbit of Venus is an optical illusion, right? 😂
They're not talking about orbits, they're talking about rotation. I think Fred misspoke at one point.
@@danger.snakes fair enough. (Though Fred misspeaks most of the time :) )
He's got a religious name and uses bad language?! Well we can just discount everything he says!
Atheism disproven guys see you at church I guess?
They used the magic word, evidences, so we're required to believe them anyway!
Prof Dave’s first ever video about Tour was very respectful. That respect wasn’t reciprocated. There’s really no room for any of them to complain about “ad homeniem” (not really), as they are throwing stones inside glass houses.
Uhmm... yes, Tour behaves like an animal in that debate, but so does Mr. Farina. He attacks not only his opponent explicitly calling him a liar, fraud etc (which even if true doesn't help keeping the debate civilized), but also being openly aggressive and condescending towards the audience for daring to applaud the other party with disgusting remarks like: "you don't understand sh*t". Is this the way to "teach and educate" to you? Being correct doesn't justify any of that. Mr. Farina has no right whatsoever to call himself professor, sorry. Personally I find it quite dishonest too and I'm willing to bet that if it was a creationist doing it you would have something to object. How about Kent Hovind, for example?
Seeing several guys i know, who trained constantly and were in incredibly good shape get on roids to get bigger was a sad thing to see. They were all in their mid to late 20s. Its tragic seeing it happen to people
Notice that they seem to be implying that if there is a disagreement about the universe being 13.7 billion years old versus 13.4 billion years old it must mean that it is actually 6,000 years old? Creationists do this all the time.
"His (James tour) gentleman like introduction and post script"
That is a very nice way to say: He tried to sweet talk dave, screamed like a lunatic for 95% of the debate and then tried to end of with an appeal to pity.
How can an engineer possibly not think that modifying ideas based on new information is a valuable strategy? Should we just base all modern engineering on our understandings of material science from the 2nd century? When a dam fails due to some overlooked or misunderstood principle of engineering should we not study it, and adjust the our understanding and change our best practices? It’s actually kind of concerning that an engineer would think this way. I just hope he doesn’t design anything that anyone’s lives depend on…
He literally was a professor. He taught chemistry at a college. In the US, people who teach college-level classes in a subject are called professors. Ergo, Dave is, or at least was, a professor. His level of education doesn't factor onto it at all. One of the people who taught history at the university I went to only had a Master's. What did I call him? PROFESSOR! In the US its a title of respect, not academic achievement.
A flat earther who believes in evolution is lying about one of those beliefe 100% of the time
“I’d rather be isotropic than ignorant”
- Universal response to creationists
Venus in retrograde usually refers to the planet's orbit and the observation as Venus appears to move one way and then backward in the sky from the Earth's perspective (it can also refer to the rotation). Which was a problem for the geocentric model because it made predicting a planet's position in the sky very difficult. Which is why astronomers (scientists) realised the Earth must revolve around the sun and the heliocentric model was the correct one. Another example of science having to adjust a hypothesis to fit the observations - because that's what science does. And unsurprisingly the heliocentric model was probably delayed for over 1500 years or so because of ... religion. The Catholic church called it heresy that the Earth wasn't the centre of the universe. It took over 100 years for Copernicus theory (a devout Catholic) based on a mathematical model to be widely accepted. But the idea of the Sun being the centre of the solar system had actually been proposed as early as the 3rd Century BC. Now, on to Venus's rotation (which is basically half a Venus year). Why is it the opposite of every other planet? And so slow? Well it ain't a Creator. The current theory, which seems to work with models, is not that it was hit by something that spun it backwards as ridiculed by our not so young creationists. No, it's the friction created by the solar wind on Venus's very thick atmosphere, caused by it's very weak magnetosphere.