How to Value Rare Cards With No Comps
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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EZ~When I find a 1 of 1 in my collection I start at a million dollars. And then for every 10 watchers accrued I add a quarter million as needed. I've never sold anything but I feel like a billionaire. My self esteem is thru the roof.
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I’m going to try that!
Very useful info, Chris! Thanks for the pointers. Around 2007, Harrison was signing for free at a local bank. I asked him to autograph a photo that I told him would be a reward for the student who earned the highest score on a test that week (he liked that idea). He also signed one for me. Very nice guy! Also super tough looking!!!
I don’t sell cardboard but I love how Chris tells his stories. I have been addicted to his webcast for the last month. Great job
I think you undervalued the James Harrison by a little bit, his 2021 gold went for $95 raw when he had been retired for 4 years. The 2015 card is from when he was still active and the design and image is much better imo, I think that you could easily find a buyer in the $125-150 range
absolutely agree
James Harrison was a monster on Pittsburgh’s defense. Great player!
One interesting note for these cards is they feature players from two of the most iconic franchises in sports. The Yankees & Steelers have enormous fan bases that can also drive the market.
Good point.
James Harrison is an interesting person in terms of cards. His rookie season was 2003 but his first appearance on a card was not until 2008, which is also the year he won NFL Defensive Player of the Year. in 2008 his only cards were score and topps base.
The road of a undrafted free agent signing. Many don't appear till they crack the starting lineup and are relevant. Most sets only carried a handful of players from each team so being a top 5 or 10 player on a team is usually needed also
That is interesting! I didnt realize that.
Don’t forget his Stadium Club, Topps Mayo, Bowman sterling, and the toughest one, his 2008 Exquisite base card. Steeler fans pay good money for fan favorites, and James Harrison is definitely one of them.
Really liked the video. This video shows that how complicated pricing rare cards is. Really like some of the tools and analysis in the video.
I still find it incredible that eBay doesn't show the actual price when a Best Offer is accepted.
Thanks for covering this topic Chris
Chris, comparing the Olsen to Harrison is spot on except one factor. Panthers v Steelers collector demand. I sell exclusively football cards and would carry at least a 2x multiplier simply because he was a Steeler great. Another factor that hurts Olsen value is he moved from team to team much more than Harrison, so Olsen has many fewer core player collectors buying his cards. If Greg gets a sniff at HOF consideration that will change but much Harrison has a much better chance at the Hall. Great video, love your content, see you in Cleveland hopefully
Great point, I did not consider that
Great video. I run into too many people that think 1/1 means infinite value.
Both of those Harrison gold cards from 2021 were both numbered 6/10
Yeah, it was the same card. One guy bought it for $50 and flipped it for $95 a month later.
Cal me crazy: you’d get $500 from a proper Yinzer for that Harrison.
There should be plenty of Yinzers at The National.
I wouldn't call you crazy: If that's making Chris an offer.
300 to 500 all day
Nice video, I like the way you research, compare, and analyze the market, which is very helpful. Thanks
I would argue Eric Kendricks is not a common though probably a very underrated player within the card community. Was a stud for the Vikings for many years and now for the Chargers/Cowboys. I am amazed that his Gold Prizm Rookie Auto in a BGS 9.5/10 is only worth $75. I mean how much better can it get?
Totally Agree!!!
He went to the same high school as me so I’m a bit biased, but he was great for quite a few years, was first team all-pro as well.
Chris, I love the adjacent parallels strategy. I've also tried to use COMC for this. It's so nice how they list all the different parallels down the side for quick reference. Although I do think you need to buy their "history points" or whatever it's called (to see the historical sales data).
Great video and very informative for someone like me who owns some rarer cards but has never sold any cards. I think I am getting ready to parcel out some of them that no longer tickle my fancy.
Thanks Chris. I feel like if you're picking up golds or 1/1s of players like this, your only market is other PC people. So you just need 2 to start a bidding war
I would value the Harrison more. I think based on 2021 sales it’s 100 raw. I feel confident you should get at least 150 and 200 is very possible. Also have you used terrapeak? eBay’s version of 130point. Free if you are a seller. I find it is way better than 130point but not as good as cardladder. But again free if you sell on eBay.
The Derek Jeter you have is an on card autograph where the stadium club was a sticker. I would value yours in the 450-500 range. I think you would be surprised on the Harrison. I feel you can get around 350 for the card to the right buyer. Thanks for the video!
Great video! I was going to guess $125-$150 on the James Harrison, who knows. Id say after the data you found, being an earlier run Prizm, who knows, I'd have even said $200 for a sticker wouldn't be horribly wrong, or like you say about $100 or so to get it moved.
Awesome. Just awesome!!
Thanks for another great well done video. Your the best!
I r always enjoyed your context. I really liked your recent interview with John Newman too
In a way the gold is a color match and looks great! Also James Harrison had one of the craziest plays in Super Bowl history. Def a player that would add a premium for a Steelers fan even over other random Steelers players
As a Steelers fan I will always say that James Harrison is one of my favorites, probably my favorite play of all time was his 100 yard int return in that Super Bowl against the Cards
100% agree with your methodology. It gives you a base, but in the end we are guessing what someone will pay.
I bought a 1/1 recently. It was listed at $250 or B/O. I felt it was a little high, but bought it for $250. Because I wasn't gonna lose it to save $50.
When it comes to rare cards, listing a little high never hurts. Worst case you get annoying emails from people asking for a cheaper price, instead of them actually sending you an offer.
The owner is lucky to have it.I'd hold on to it until the hall calls his name or a card lot to sell on the web.
Nice job by your research department! i enjoy your content keep it up
This is what dealers mean by having to have margin for their time. Sounds like this took you comparatively long and it’s into two cards
I think the Harrison could go for more as there are Gold set collectors as well that could want that card.
Great video brotha!
Hi Chris, I would buy that James Harrison for $100-125! Love your content! Keep em comin
For that Jeter, having the two BGS cards listed is really advantageous. Price your better PSA 10 slightly above at like $1k OBO, the other cards are floor prices you can point to if you want to negotiate up an offer.
Feel your a little low on the Harrison... and possibly the Jeter too.. Like many have said, the Steelers are just such an iconic franchise and have such a loyal fan base, that should add a premium. Somebody else mentioned the set collector as well and I can imagine there are a small number putting a gold set together. And the fact you can't find a sale raw or graded of the other 9 copies, that really bodes well that there might just be one or multiple people waiting for this card to pop-up. It's all subjective but I'd guess the Harrison to be more like $150-$200... and $125 a slam dunk. Regardless, a great video on how to tackle the problem :-)
Speaking of your 2018 Topps Brooklyn Jeter auto, I have a Juan Soto auto just like that as well. But I think it’s even harder for me to guesstimate the current value of it since it’s raw.
Hey Chris if you ever get a chance to maybe make a video on your opinions of the PSA price guiding system now versus how SMR used to list and selected cards to have in the guide.
There are millions of philosophies on how this should be done, but I will say that the methods mentioned in this video are industry standard.
I'm not sure if you noticed but when you showed the 2021 gold prizm James Harrison comps, they were actually the same exact card in the 2 sales. Looks like someone did a little arbitrage and made $50 for holding the card a month.
Great video Chris. A follow-up conversation…for rare cards like this, when is it best to list as an auction vs. trying to find the right price for a buy-it-now listing? On a couple of occasions I have had rare cards auction for higher than what I had them previously listed for as a buy-it-now.
I have many that falls in that category 😉 Thanks ! ☺️
I price all my cards at AUCTION.. I buy on Ebay only. Dont do shows. I crack and resub all day. Then, do whats right by sending the cards to auction. Win more than you lose.
What a great video
I would always start with the grading fee and go from there. The grading fee should be the first valuation in all graded transactions, the hobby is suffering in my opinion when sales of cards are below grading value
That's a cool Harrison card. I would have consider getting it autographed. I don't know if he signs often though, when the pop count like you say, is so miniscule...the auto may not be needed or add much value, but maybe it could. Not sure if Greg Olsen is still on commentary. Tom Brady is replacing him on FOX. Oh well. I'll stick with the Manning-cast. Bill Belichick ironically is joining Peyton and Eli. That should be interesting.
Where would you place 2004 Topps Originals RCs Autos of Don Mattingly and Cal Ripken both 1/1's? Since 2004, there have been Archives releases with auto's but believe this is the first year of the buyback auto's for these. The 2001's were reprint auto's.
Chris, can you please make a video explaining why 1st Bowmans and prospect cards are a popular thing in baseball collecting, when the equivalent to minor league cards in other sports, like NBA G-League, XFL, etc. are not a segment in sports card collecting at all. I’m struggling to understand the difference as a football and basketball collector.
No other sport has it where all rookies start in the minors. That first Bowman has always been the earliest cards of a player in a major release ( minor league cards were always regional). The hype tends to start with this release also so that lends itself to the popularity of 1st Bowman
That’s an interesting idea for a video. I’ll consider that.
with baseball the 1st Bowman's that sell great right from release are most of the time 1st round/2nd round picks,then they go to the minors for anywhere from a few months to 3,4 years before making it to the majors at which time Topps makes a rookie card. With NBA and NFL the best players are getting drafted straight out of college go to their NFL team right away so then they'll have rookie cards made when the new sets come out later that year. The players in G-League weren't good enough to be drafted or to make the team that drafted them, XFL,UFL,etc are players that once again weren't good enough coming out of college to be drafted to the NFL. With NBA and NFL, college ball is basically treated as their "minor league" whereas MLB has a minor league system set up. G-League,XFL,etc are basically second chance leagues or last chance leagues for guys to get noticed.
Minor league baseball has been around for decades. Football and basketball developmental leagues have existed in the past, but almost always disappeared after a few years.
For most football and basketball stars, the "minor leagues" are college, and in some cases with basketball, playing overseas. That may change if G League, XFL or other leagues get a history behind them.
A bowman 1st they are in a pro uniform in the pic not college or HS or something
850.00✨😎✨ oh and by the way Beckett is still tops on the grading echelon
Prizm autos actually are worth less than their non autos. Im presuming thjs is because of the sticker
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You should ALWAYS look at currently listed items, not just sold. What is currently listed is very important, you have to be cheaper than your competition, and if there is no competition you can price much higher. Comps are less important on rare cards like the harrison. I would have listed the james harrison at 299obo, and taken down to 200. No way should it ever sell for only 100. I sell about $300k of cards on ebay a year, so im not just talking out of my ass.
I was just thinking this today. My PSA order came back and I have a 1992 topps Gold John Elway ( error) PSA 10.
Pop only 8. No recent comps. Tough to price for sure
Any guesses. I am at 150$ ???
Not a fan of the photograph at the one second mark.
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Time will tell hold and save. Put in pc you don't have to sale everything you get yet.
Well, it is his business to buy and sell.
I’ve heard you also say you can price a rare card high and see what happens. So when you value the card at say $400 do you then list it a bit higher and then do markdowns over time or have room for an OBO to land around $400?
For a card like the meter I would probably price it around $550 and take offers as low as $400. If it doesn’t sell, I would lower it a little bit over time.
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What's your favorite free app to check how many comps a card has?
I dont know of any that are free
Not sure if this helps but, ALT is excellent for graded card comps. 130 Point is a nice option for EBay comps, graded and non-graded cards.
Too many products being mass produced at crazy prices 😎 just sayin
Hi Chris, do you accept a 6ft long×5ft tall autographed sports art collage in your auction?
It’s Jeremy’s auction so you would have to ask him. I believe he is currently only taking cards and comics.
I'll buy the Kendricks for $75.00?
Melvin Gordon, ridiculous.
gj chris !! 4th
Erik Kendricks was an All-Pro. You know nothing about football.
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