Can YOU hear a difference? Disabling Active Sound Design (ASD) w/ BIMMERCODE // (Toyota GR Supra)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Will the deactivation of the MKV Toyota GR Supra's Active Sound Design (ASD) result in a noticeable difference in engine / exhaust sound pumped into the cabin our our Supra project car via the speakers? I'll take you through how-to disable the Supra ASD using BIMMERCODE. Using before and after sound clips we'll see - HEAR if there is a noticeable change in fake engine noise pumped into the cabin via the speakers! Would you disable the ASD in your Toyota GR Supra? This video will guide you through the how-to use Bimmercode for the MKV Toyota Supra! Looking to customize your Toyota Supra, adjusting specific features such as the Supra's auto start stop, screen brightness, side mirror tilt angle, disabling the active sound design (fake cabin engine sound), adding Sports +, door unlock lock chime, as well as a bunch of other Bimmercode coding features that can be coded using Bimmercode. SUBSCRIBE TODAY...We'll be reviewing GR Supra modifications, walking through how-tos, mod installs, taking the car to the dyno to test horsepower and torque, testing the Toyota Supra's 0-60mph and 1/4 mile acceleration, and finding out if the most popular Supra car modifications such as an air intake, exhaust, downpipe, ecu tune (ECUTEK, MHD, BM3), etc. really does add the horsepower car performance part manufacturers claim!?! We'll be using our 2023 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium project car as our test Supra to test all of our Supra modifications.
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Really noticeable, ADS sounds great, but philosophically it just rubs me the wrong way. I guess I don't like being deceived. Guess it is a pass for me. Each to his own. Thank you for investigating this trend.
It is a quagmire 🤔
Sounds great??? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤢
The fake sound is HORRIBLE
After listening to both, I am gonna keep mine on. I think it sounds really good with it on.
It’s good to have options 😉👍
It does sound nice, but i have it disabled. I think the ASD messes with the quality of your audio if you're playing music.
I ended up disabling mine as well - it makes driving in Sport Mode more enjoyable 😁👍
I was wondering about that, @camxiong. You found a noticeable difference in audio quality after disabling?
I like the natural sound instead of the fake sound
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I personally love it who doesn't love a car soundtrack especially if its that good
driving is about the experience, and this adds to the experience!
Great video. I was questioning if I wanted to remove it, but I think I'll keep it. I always start my car in Sport plus from Bimmercode since that's an option now.
Leave it enabled it sounds better 👍
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I can tell.. I'll leave the ASD on.. Sounds like music to my ears.. 🎵🎵🎶🎶🎵🎵
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I had a Toyota Supra and it ASD was only really engaged when it was in sport mode, you couldn’t hear it in normal mode. That being said I hated it, it sounded way to high pitch and sounded electronic. I have a 2021 M3 and that car sounds way more natural when it’s activated , BMW must have done a better job with there sound tuning this time around because it does sound more natural and it’s only really noticeable in track mode. The Supra was a fantastic looking and sting car, I had two issues with it, I kept hitting my head if I didn’t pay attention getting in and out of it ( I’m 6ft ) and it was very hard to see out of when you were seated, it reminded me of the Camaro in that regard. The M3 was way more comfortable and still had great handling and tremendous speed, so for me it was an easier choice. Just an FYI BMW’s do without a doubt make one the smoothest and best sounding boosted 6 cylinder engines in the world, there so smooth and free revving and have a fantastic exhaust sound stock. The Supra actually has a better exhaust sound then the M3 by a pretty big margin, I think it’s because the exhaust only has to go through one turbo rather than two, so it does have a very natural NA sound to it, the M3 definitely has more of a lower muted exhaust note but man does that car have unrelenting power!! Great video and enjoy your car!!!
Thank you! I do notice the ASD even when it’s not in Sport mode and much rather have it disabled 🤷♂️
You'll have to admit that M3s are much more common-looking than the Supra. That's one of the reasons I picked the Supra. It's like driving an exotic car.
The difference is night and day. Now especially that I know that sound I was hearing is fake, I don't think I would enjoy hearing it.
I think that’s what happened to me 😕
My personality I like disabled
Im old school I like the natural sound without it being digital. Exspecially if you have aftermarket exhaust system or catless downpipe. Its cool to have though. 😊
I’m with you 👍😁
😆 🤣 wow! That's a huge difference! That's a hard decision! I hate the idea.. but man it's a good passenger fooler 😆. Also.. cop- "sir whats you're reason for speeding" uhhh... the speakers sound cool? 🤣 🤣
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HUGE difference. I think you'd get used to the disabled sound pretty quickly though - I don't like the idea that I'm being psychologically manipulated.
I was quite shocked how noticeable it is 😮
I personally would leave it active...until you "upgrade" the axhaust! Sounds good with ASD active compared to stock exhaust.
I’m thinking the same 👍😁
Dang I was thinking the same 😬
I’ve since disabled it, and enjoy the Sport Mode much more now 👍
Its a huge difference. The ads sounds annoying straight out of video games! Honeslty most vehicles in video games sound horrible. Might as well play some 2jz through the speakers. Perhaps some vtec. LoL
The ads disabled sounds much quieter, like a stock car with sound dedening should. Thats why you throw in a loud muffler.
I think the real benefit here is if you modify the exhaust, you'll get a much better sound. I hate the pumped in sound when youre at half throttle.
The only problem with that is an upgraded exhaust is expensive, and it adds no real power gains - an expensive upgrade for sound alone.
On my BMW 330i its a must IMO, it makes the 4 cylinder at least sound like a BMW.
It actually sounds like a bmw now.
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Can someone who tried both ON and OFF tell me if keeping it ON makes you happier at a much lower speed? I personally rev my manual car harder to be able to hear my exhaust louder. If I had ADS maybe I won't rev as much. Thoughts?
And great video btw. As a MX5 ND owner it's sad that you no longer are fellow Miata owner. But I look forward to your videos modifying and dyno ing Supra!
Thank you 👍
I just recently turned it off and it blew my mind how noticeable it was. This just makes me want to upgrade the whole exhaust.
Totally agree! 👍😁
In my EN its big diff. Because i have tcr and rally car ads. But once in a while i turn it off just to hear the original sound.
Would it affect the car when we deactivate it with bimmercode?
I'm worried if it would affect the car when we deactivate ASD or Stop and Go mode with that since everything is programmed originally..
I wonder if they keep the fake sound in-phase with the real engine.
I would think so, otherwise they would be out of sync with each other 🤔
With the artificial sound, it is similar to the exhaust sound of a Lexus LC500h at full throttle. I may turn off the ASC AND get a cat-back exhaust for my 2024 45th Anniv Supra.
Easily noticed it in the video. Would keep until I did any type of modification. Want to be able to hear the real sound and also if there is any sounds that are off or wrong. Good video thank you.
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Turned mine off and it was way too quiet. I always thought the car was way louder. I ordered a catless dp and catback right after lol.
And how does it sound now?
Exactly how I wanted now. No regrets.@@TheLemonFactor
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I would never remove the cat in my Supra. Here in CA, I'd probably be thrown in prison if I were caught. Besides, It's nice not getting watery eyes while sitting in traffic.
The good news is, when all the cars are electric, there is a solution to bridge the gap of losing one of your senses. Going from a car I can feel and hear start up, to a hybrid or electric is sort of like being medicated. It’s a lack of sensation. “Is this thing on?”
I’m with ya 👍
I prefer ADS off so I can hear the turbo and intake sounds more.
Even with the ADS off, I find it very difficult to hear any sounds from the intake or turbo 🤷♂️
You need to slightly lug the engine, i.e accelerate slowly and progressively push the throttle at a higher gear from around 2600 rpm, thats where I load the car at a higher gear to get the most noticeable turbo sound.
good video! definitely can tell difference. for me, i will disable it. too much noise with ASD.
Wow, i just got my 2020 yesterday and was like "holy shit this sounds great i don't even need to upgrade my exhaust" little did i know... lol
Congratulations on your new Supra 👍
@@TheLemonFactor thanks buddy!
Hi lemon factor, now that you have had your Supra for a few months, are you happy with the decision you made to buy the 2023 Supra? I am asking because I am being told that mine should arrive in the next few weeks and with the market downturn, I am wondering if the prices of these will drop soon, even though they don’t make a lot of them, 60k is still a lot for a car. Please share your thoughts if you don’t mind???
I am happy with the Supra (9 out of 10)! I wish opening up the ECU for tuning wasn't so expensive! The car market is in a downturn, hitting some cars harder than others and in certain areas of the country. Do I think the Supra will be impacted? Yes, but probably not too hard - I have seen used Supra prices dropping. With that said, I certainly wouldn't pay over MSRP for a new Supra. I guess it would depend on whether you plan on keeping the car longer term (i.e. 4+ yrs), or not.
@@TheLemonFactor thank you so much for the reply. I agree with everything you are saying. My goal is to keep the car between 3 and 5 years as there is not much else out right now that I like more. If they stop making the Supra in 2025 like some say, then I think they will increase in value like the GT350, but if not, I think standard depreciation will eventually take effect. Thank you and have a wonderful week.
My pleasure. Enjoy your new Supra!
Fake sounds to help you forget about all the fake vents.
I disabled ASD immediately because that's what I did on my previous car. Recently, I've been wanting more sound in the cabin. The stock exhaust sounds great as is and didn't really want to have to go the route of a DP or catback. I can totally tell a difference just in your video and it's got me wanting to re-enable ASD. I'm actually excited that I don't need to drop $1400-$2500 to achieve what I feel I've been missing.
It’s great to have the option 👍 especially considering how much an aftermarket exhaust costs, and the fact that they add very little additional power 🤷♂️
Sounds a lot better without it. Same thing on my GR86. The pumped in sounds super nasal-y to my ear. Too big a boost in the high mids. Almost sounds like you're running the sound through a wah pedal, like it's whining.
Totally agree! 👍
I would want it off. But i would also look for a way to get some of the actual engine noise in there. Must be a way to make some come through with a hole somewhere. I xould tell it was off and it sounded like a real engine only softer. But with it on i get tired from listening to the car in the video after 3 acceleration runs... I hate the fake buzz
An aftermarket higher flowing downpipe and exhaust will certainly help add some natural sounds 😁👍
Just do exhaust now, go with SP1-R Titanium
It’s not on my shortlist - I don’t care for the single tip / exhaust 🤷♂️
@The Lemon Factor! LLC boostlogic or FI if you want valvetronic exhaust
Both good choices - pricey though 🤔
@@TheLemonFactor Budget friendly go MBRP which I've been quoted $1,650-$1,800 or the Borla Atak both under $2,000
The Borla does sound pretty good 👍 🤔
Wow!! Really appreciate the video! Very informative indeed. Not gonna lie! Please give me that fake incabin mode all day. There's a huge difference imo.
I agree. However, with the ADS and in Sports mode the sound made when the car is holding onto its gear is very annoying 😕
@@TheLemonFactor what's ADS? 🤔 thank you
I meant ASD - it’s still early for me 😉
Can you access the GPS maps with the link? need help as I moved overseas and I have USA maps only
I haven’t seen anything in the menus that would suggest you can, but I could be wrong 🤷♂️
The perfection is no fake sound and a louder exhaust
Exactly 👍. But which exhaust 🤔
@@TheLemonFactor Wich would you like?
I’d love to be able to hear them all in person, but 🤷♂️. With that said, I do have an HKS ready to be installed 😉
Drives me mad. My Supra was £59000 and it’s as fake as the girls today. I’m not happy at all. Th Ed car is great but this pisses me off . Can’t even legally really mod the exhaust. 🤦🏻🤷🏻💭💭💭
Can you code out the TPMS light on the dash and the display? I got after market wheels and replaced the valvestems too. If this is possible, can you make a how to video?
I doubt it. But I’d have to check. 🤔
@@TheLemonFactor thank you.
nah i wish i never found this video
Soooo much better off.
If you want good sound... just put an AWE touring exhaust on that thing.
I wish my supra sounded the way it does with ads active when it's deactivated.. What a bimmer.. I mean bummer..
😂. An aftermarket exhaust should help with that 😉
@@TheLemonFactor yes, but I purchased this car with the intentions of renting it out. So can't really do any mods to it. After I acquire some more cars n it comes time to sell her I'm prolly pick up a MT A91 unless I come to find I like a different car more.
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I'm wearing Bose headphones and I notice a HUGE difference. I would disable that ASD and never go back. I can't stand the synthetic sounds with ASD on.
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I have a 2023 manual supra, It doesnt let me access body domain control? It says not compatible with adapter, I have the veepeak BLE. Or is it due to locked ecu?
Have you tried going under the Z4 as your car? If that doesn’t work, then maybe there’s something different about the manual Supras domain controller. If there is, I’d expect BimmerCode to release an updated to support it 🤔
@@TheLemonFactor yes I selected the Z4 option! I emailed them so hopefully they can update me on the situation soon!
And the Supra option doesn’t work either?
@@TheLemonFactor everything seems to work except body domain control, I tried the supra option as well and still nothing
I’d be interested in hearing what BimmerCode has to say 🤷♂️
More videos 💯💯💯💯
Thank you! What would you like to see? Performance mods, cosmetic mods, maintenance tutorials…
Is there a fuse we can just pull out?
It sounds better with the added sound. Who cares if it’s enhanced? If your going with that line of thinking, then take away the crackles and pops because those are induced also through software allowing extra unburnt fuel in-the exhaust to pop, and we don’t want to take THAT away either as it sounds great….Went to the L.A. auto show and Dodge was showing off the new Electric Charger Concept ‘ revving' the electric Motor (or so they were trying to convince us). It sounded wicked!
In a few years ALL performance cars that are electric will have artificial noise. It’s the sign of the times.
It does sound better, except ether fake drone when the car is holding onto a gear in Sports mode 😕
Sounds 1000x better off.
Who the f* wants FAKE engine sound.....
No, it's a sign that we have a democrat president. Let's get back to common sense approaches to climate with gradual decreases in emissions. Hybrids are key to doing this, not a mad rush to 100% EVs.
Does it really sound louder?
There is definitely a noticeable difference. Not only does the ASD make it louder, it also adds other sounds 😕
@@TheLemonFactor okay so if I actually want it louder, then leave it on? I don’t mind the artificial sounds. Prob can’t notice the difference unless you hear both in person lol
That's right, if you want it louder and with all the fake sounds, leave it as is. I will say that I found driving in Sports mode very annoying, until I disabled the ASD, which got rid of all the unnecessary add on sounds.
@@TheLemonFactor that’s what I love about This car is normal mode is very tolerable but when I switch to sport; I want to it to LOUD.
@@TheLemonFactor I love your channel and the detail and feedback you give: much appreciated and subscribed! Also enjoyed your wrap video!
I would enable it to have the drama
I like that word, it’s very fitting… “drama”. 😁