@@TheEducatedZombeh just be aware that newsstands from That era are not more rare. Direct copies are.. newsstand don’t become less printed until after 85 and mostly into the 90s. But in 1980 everything was a newstand copy.
For a person who's not a major X-Men fan (although I do like the team/books), I did pretty good; 8 out of 10, the exception being X-Men 4 and 1. As always, thanks for the breakdown; it's always appreciated.
Its amazing...we sold at least 2,000 copies of Wolverine 1 in my store in small city in Alabama in 1980s...got to be stocks of them even now...:-). Of course you have to have a copy in 9/8 condition. My ersonal copies probably got sold to Lone Star Comics in late 1980s. :-).
I just purchased this week, 2 of X-Men 221. First appearance of Mr. Sinister. One is really really clean. Can see it as a 9.8 and the other maybe 9.4 or 9.6.. Just started collecting this year, would love to have a full run in the future.. Lets hope AMC and Microvision stock does me good..Lol
Great video David, completely agree on your list as I assume you see hulk 181 as a hulk book and not an x-men book. As someone else said please do a spidey list like this !
Great video, and it’s hard to disagree with any of your picks. I’m guessing you don’t consider Hull 181 an X-Men book, but it was odd to see Wolverine 1 on the list. I’d love to see a video about some NOT safe X-Men books you like, where you think the risk is outweighed by the reward. Books like 164, 256 or other MCU specs.
Enjoyed your take & info provided. Great mix. Happy to say I have 2 listed. Curious to see if you had any honorable mention/ones that missed the top 10.
Hey Dave I always watch your channel you are very informative. Well talking about the first kitty pride I bought that a little more than a year ago X-Men 129 9.6 $450. X-Men 101 the first Phoenix I paid $900 9.4. Well I have said time and time again that most of the key older books nobody could afford those anymore and I don’t work for 10 years I can’t do that. But if I want something badly I would have to sell one of my remaining great books. I’m not sure if I am willing to get rid of my superman and Batman 1 5.0 restored and I sure as hell will not get rid of my amazing fantasy 15 6.0.
Hard to disagree with those picks. I think books like X-Men 1, 4, and 12 were always the go to early books for collectors, and are pretty straightforward. As other choices in the early part of the run I would add 28, 49, and 50 as solid investments.
Now that Professor X has been teased in the MCU, this list just got very real very quickly. X-books may go up soon haha really want to get a lot of them for my PC.
can't go wrong with x men books. could make a top 25 list easy. I would add x men 14,50,58 and 160 for a newer cheaper one and x men 2 will keep climbing with most people being priced out of issue 1
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X-men 3 has gone up quite a bit. 1st Blob. Would like to get that one as it’s probably the closest you can come to a #1 without paying insane prices for. Would like an X-Men 1 someday but by the time you save up for that, you could buy a new car with that much money.
Dave. Love the shows. No mention of Psylocke? She is heavily used in current Marvel comic offerings and surely an MCU apperarance at some point. Her first appearance in Capt Britain #8 in the UK. A rare book thar has only 500 books on CGC census and 52 at 9.8. Surely worth a mention???
I didn't forget her, but this is for long term investing and I just feel she can't hit the top 10, nothing against her, many xmen 1st app didn't hit this list...In the top 20, possibly
@@ComicBookInvestments Thanks Dave. We in the UK cannot claim to have many 1st appearances of any note in comic books. I was just waving the flag for us poor Brits :) keep up the great content. Craig.
Love the show, and I’ve come to terms with the fact I’ll never get X-Men 1. I have a wife, children, a house, full time job, etc. Very few people have $20K+ to spend on a comic. I’m glad you threw in other brooks that most people may actually get.
Ya I did a range. I do think these are really good long term investments. You don’t have to get the high grades though. You can get a 9.0 of X-men 255. Probably 100-200$
My father had a newstand and sold these comics. I could have had all of these if I were only a neater more organized kids. My Pop would bring home boxes of no-sales with the tops torn off and returned to DC and Marvel.....or wherever they would go.
Not sure you can really determine this but I’d wonder how many would hold for that 10 year period. Based on NEO, I get the sense that the turnover on comics are much much less than trading cards
yes these books should all hold the top 10 or near the top 10 in the next 5-10 year period...I would be super surpised if any of these went below top 20 in 10 years
The price of that X-Men #1 is insane, not long til it hits $1M. I already own seven of these on the list, regrettably not X-Men #1 nor GS #1! Still seven out of 10 isn't bad. 😁
I have videos like that as well. But when it comes to good solid investments. These are the books. I even say you can find other books that give you more return. But these are the safe long term quality comics for investment
Haha very true since a bank will never want you to be wealthy they want u to be there “please sir can I get a loan and a kick in the ass while I’m here” ur slave for the rest of your life. Which is why if you own ur home do whatever it takes to never sell it or reverse mortgage it.. They will then beg you to take there high interest credit cards as a bonus.. A casino I call banks they are the dealers and they never loose until people wake up and see them for who they are
10.0 is such a load of crap. There is nothing about a 9.8, 9.9 or 10.0 where you can distinguish b/w any of them. Test it. Submit a 9.9 or 10 and see if it comes back a 9.9 or 10, EVER. Nope , won’t happen. That’s why it’s a load.
@@ComicBookInvestments sure, but like other duds that leached off the X-men popularity at the time, Marvel was producing books to take shelf space and force crossover events on buyers. No one was clamoring for Alpha Flight, X-Factor, West Coast Avengers, etc.
I think gambit is more popular than kitty pride. They have been planning on a gambit movie for along time. They will never do a kitty pride movie. Or at least not for at least a decade.
Still better to do 129. Gambit was bandied about by Fox years ago. Think that mistake would’ve made Channing Tatum Gambit. Can you imagine him trying to do that accent? 🤣😁
C’mon. It’s a dangerous, incorrect and misleading method to compare a huge key comic to the S&P or a portfolio that’s meant to grow steadily over time. You all know what investing in the 500 does long term. Very few of any people have either enough of the books, can sell them or make enough on them to sustain themselves over time. A collectible should be a minority of any financial portfolio, and Bronze Age or late Silver isn’t even a mature market. Quite volatile actually. I like your show but hyping comics over smart long term realistic investment is not good.
to add to your comments when the market was booming in the first half of this year people tried to establish reasons why and one that was quoted was High Net Worth individuals wanting to diversify, this always made me laugh...so the share market has been on an absolute tear for over 16 months now and we think people are going to take out 1/2 million to invest in comics??? There quite simply is not enough supply for this scenario to occur - image a group of these people (let's say 10,000 HNW investors) snapping up every copy of GSX1 - there aren't that many copies to go around. Let alone the concept that I can sit back and let my fund manager run my account OR I have to store all the comics and then actively monitor the market for optimal exit time. The 'card traders moving into our hobby' is believable as is 'stimulus funds' and 'Covid boredom' but you wouldn't need many guys with a million dollar fund (and that is quite conservative for a 'war chest') to suck up all the available blue chip books. agree, comics should represent a tiny sliver of a persons personal wealth, even David knows, residential property is a lot safer and stable compared to our hobby. Buy em to read!
Dude shoei ohtani rookie 2017 PSA 10 bowman green refractor. Sold for $1750 ....5 to 7 months ago.....Now sells on ebay for 17,000.. If I had your income I'd be soooo. Freakin. Rich. Gotta love the balance. You rich and give not too great investment s. And I'm a poor boy with. A tyme traveler almanac....lol
X-Men 129 is first Kitty Pryde, Emma Frost and Sebastian Shaw. Lot of value in that book
Just got an 8.0 new stand 📈
@@TheEducatedZombeh Congrats! i bought a reader copy for $10 about 2 years ago, it's probably a G/VG copy. My guess it's $100 now.
It should be a mutant grail
@@TheEducatedZombeh just be aware that newsstands from That era are not more rare. Direct copies are.. newsstand don’t become less printed until after 85 and mostly into the 90s. But in 1980 everything was a newstand copy.
For a person who's not a major X-Men fan (although I do like the team/books), I did pretty good; 8 out of 10, the exception being X-Men 4 and 1. As always, thanks for the breakdown; it's always appreciated.
Its amazing...we sold at least 2,000 copies of Wolverine 1 in my store in small city in Alabama in 1980s...got to be stocks of them even now...:-). Of course you have to have a copy in 9/8 condition. My ersonal copies probably got sold to Lone Star Comics in late 1980s. :-).
I just purchased this week, 2 of X-Men 221. First appearance of Mr. Sinister. One is really really clean. Can see it as a 9.8 and the other maybe 9.4 or 9.6..
Just started collecting this year, would love to have a full run in the future..
Lets hope AMC and Microvision stock does me good..Lol
Great video David, completely agree on your list as I assume you see hulk 181 as a hulk book and not an x-men book. As someone else said please do a spidey list like this !
Great video, and it’s hard to disagree with any of your picks. I’m guessing you don’t consider Hull 181 an X-Men book, but it was odd to see Wolverine 1 on the list. I’d love to see a video about some NOT safe X-Men books you like, where you think the risk is outweighed by the reward. Books like 164, 256 or other MCU specs.
Enjoyed your take & info provided. Great mix. Happy to say I have 2 listed. Curious to see if you had any honorable mention/ones that missed the top 10.
Hey Dave I always watch your channel you are very informative. Well talking about the first kitty pride I bought that a little more than a year ago X-Men 129 9.6 $450. X-Men 101 the first Phoenix I paid $900 9.4. Well I have said time and time again that most of the key older books nobody could afford those anymore and I don’t work for 10 years I can’t do that. But if I want something badly I would have to sell one of my remaining great books. I’m not sure if I am willing to get rid of my superman and Batman 1 5.0 restored and I sure as hell will not get rid of my amazing fantasy 15 6.0.
Ya it’s tough to work your way up to the big keys
Hard to disagree with those picks. I think books like X-Men 1, 4, and 12 were always the go to early books for collectors, and are pretty straightforward. As other choices in the early part of the run I would add 28, 49, and 50 as solid investments.
X-Men 14 as well
@@westcoastcollectibles152 Definitely
Now that Professor X has been teased in the MCU, this list just got very real very quickly. X-books may go up soon haha really want to get a lot of them for my PC.
One of my fav videos so far 👍
Thank you for vid. I just got a X-men 1 and 12. My list matches much of yours. Great books, x-men 129 is one I need to pick up.
Congrats on that X-men 1. Good solid investment
can't go wrong with x men books. could make a top 25 list easy. I would add x men 14,50,58 and 160 for a newer cheaper one
and x men 2 will keep climbing with most people being priced out of issue 1
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Love the vid, thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful!
I have the all but only 6 of them are graded.
Oh wow. That’s awesome!
X-men 3 has gone up quite a bit. 1st Blob. Would like to get that one as it’s probably the closest you can come to a #1 without paying insane prices for. Would like an X-Men 1 someday but by the time you save up for that, you could buy a new car with that much money.
Dave. Love the shows. No mention of Psylocke? She is heavily used in current Marvel comic offerings and surely an MCU apperarance at some point. Her first appearance in Capt Britain #8 in the UK. A rare book thar has only 500 books on CGC census and 52 at 9.8. Surely worth a mention???
I didn't forget her, but this is for long term investing and I just feel she can't hit the top 10, nothing against her, many xmen 1st app didn't hit this list...In the top 20, possibly
@@ComicBookInvestments Thanks Dave. We in the UK cannot claim to have many 1st appearances of any note in comic books. I was just waving the flag for us poor Brits :) keep up the great content. Craig.
Love the show, and I’ve come to terms with the fact I’ll never get X-Men 1. I have a wife, children, a house, full time job, etc. Very few people have $20K+ to spend on a comic. I’m glad you threw in other brooks that most people may actually get.
Ya I did a range. I do think these are really good long term investments. You don’t have to get the high grades though. You can get a 9.0 of X-men 255. Probably 100-200$
My father had a newstand and sold these comics. I could have had all of these if I were only a neater more organized kids. My Pop would bring home boxes of no-sales with the tops torn off and returned to DC and Marvel.....or wherever they would go.
Not sure you can really determine this but I’d wonder how many would hold for that 10 year period. Based on NEO, I get the sense that the turnover on comics are much much less than trading cards
yes these books should all hold the top 10 or near the top 10 in the next 5-10 year period...I would be super surpised if any of these went below top 20 in 10 years
The price of that X-Men #1 is insane, not long til it hits $1M.
I already own seven of these on the list, regrettably not X-Men #1 nor GS #1!
Still seven out of 10 isn't bad. 😁
That is really good. Congrats 🍾
@@ComicBookInvestments Thanks Dave, should l also add that l bought all of them at cover price or near to it!? 😁
Enjoy your new home!
I love it when old Marvel comic books outperform the blue chip stocks. It smells like ... victory.
Im glad I got my 266 for super cheap!
Great picks.
Would you trade a 129 CGC 9.4 ow/w for a 94 CGC 4.5 ow/w ?
I really like your videos, but I figured you’d maybe be reviewing some of less common and kinda obvious books. Still, much appreciate the content, bro
I have videos like that as well. But when it comes to good solid investments. These are the books. I even say you can find other books that give you more return. But these are the safe long term quality comics for investment
You lost me at Wolverine first appeared in Hulk 181.
…when his first comic appearance is obviously Daredevil 115
@@kylereid2796 How's that?
If you find the right book your ROI will always outshine a banks Pathetic .5 - 1% interest on your savings every time
Hahhaha. Well they usually charge you a monthly fee. So your interest rate doesn’t even cover that lol
Haha very true since a bank will never want you to be wealthy they want u to be there “please sir can I get a loan and a kick in the ass while I’m here” ur slave for the rest of your life. Which is why if you own ur home do whatever it takes to never sell it or reverse mortgage it.. They will then beg you to take there high interest credit cards as a bonus.. A casino I call banks they are the dealers and they never loose until people wake up and see them for who they are
Do you use CGC's in house pressing service or do you use someone else?
Mostly myself
Do one for spidey
For sure. Will do one soon
10.0 is such a load of crap. There is nothing about a 9.8, 9.9 or 10.0 where you can distinguish b/w any of them. Test it. Submit a 9.9 or 10 and see if it comes back a 9.9 or 10, EVER. Nope , won’t happen. That’s why it’s a load.
Bro are those all cgc boxes in the background jesus christ lol...
Where is 181??? It's easily #1. Why did you include wolvie #1 but not 181?
because that belongs to hulk, and I feel wolverine 1 is still with the x-men, my logic at least :)
This video is speaking my language.
Glad you like it
Alpha Flight was super popular? 😒
Ya the first series ran for over a decade. Over 130 issues
@@ComicBookInvestments sure, but like other duds that leached off the X-men popularity at the time, Marvel was producing books to take shelf space and force crossover events on buyers. No one was clamoring for Alpha Flight, X-Factor, West Coast Avengers, etc.
Well, it was with me, mostly because of John Byrne.
Putting 266 way too high. You’re putting that above 129? 129 is great for white queen more than kitty pride.
I think gambit is more popular than kitty pride. They have been planning on a gambit movie for along time. They will never do a kitty pride movie. Or at least not for at least a decade.
Still better to do 129. Gambit was bandied about by Fox years ago. Think that mistake would’ve made Channing Tatum Gambit. Can you imagine him trying to do that accent? 🤣😁
C’mon. It’s a dangerous, incorrect and misleading method to compare a huge key comic to the S&P or a portfolio that’s meant to grow steadily over time. You all know what investing in the 500 does long term. Very few of any people have either enough of the books, can sell them or make enough on them to sustain themselves over time. A collectible should be a minority of any financial portfolio, and Bronze Age or late Silver isn’t even a mature market. Quite volatile actually. I like your show but hyping comics over smart long term realistic investment is not good.
I think you should diversify. But my main point is to show that comics can be just as good of an investment as stocks.
to add to your comments when the market was booming in the first half of this year people tried to establish reasons why and one that was quoted was High Net Worth individuals wanting to diversify, this always made me laugh...so the share market has been on an absolute tear for over 16 months now and we think people are going to take out 1/2 million to invest in comics??? There quite simply is not enough supply for this scenario to occur - image a group of these people (let's say 10,000 HNW investors) snapping up every copy of GSX1 - there aren't that many copies to go around. Let alone the concept that I can sit back and let my fund manager run my account OR I have to store all the comics and then actively monitor the market for optimal exit time.
The 'card traders moving into our hobby' is believable as is 'stimulus funds' and 'Covid boredom' but you wouldn't need many guys with a million dollar fund (and that is quite conservative for a 'war chest') to suck up all the available blue chip books.
agree, comics should represent a tiny sliver of a persons personal wealth, even David knows, residential property is a lot safer and stable compared to our hobby. Buy em to read!
Dude shoei ohtani rookie 2017 PSA 10 bowman green refractor. Sold for $1750 ....5 to 7 months ago.....Now sells on ebay for 17,000.. If I had your income I'd be soooo. Freakin. Rich. Gotta love the balance. You rich and give not too great investment s. And I'm a poor boy with. A tyme traveler almanac....lol