Many people think Casey Jones,although legendary,was as imaginary as Pecos Bill. Thank you for telling us the story showing that John Luther Jones was a true railroad engineer and for showing us Mr.Jones' tombstone.
Thanks for this -- My kid is playing this on the violin, and this was a great version to introduce him to the song & snapshot of American history. The words are very clear .
This version of the song is far from the real history. He was running south with a passenger train not the "western mail". And there's no rain and flooding delaying him. Also he ran inside the caboose of tail of a freight train sticking out on the main line not "two locomotives going to bump". However, I still like it because that's what happened when Casey Jones becomes a legend of the railroad and the historical accuracy is no longer the most important thing.
This song is referenced in David Jones' "In Parenthesis'', a poem telling about his experiences in the trenches in World War I. The British sang this song on Christmas Morning 1915 to drown out the Germans when they sung a Christmas carol.
That train on a trestle that appears beginning about 0:33 seems oddly out of place. Could that be because I happen to recognize it as Puffing Billy? The plant life would seem to support that; I don't know that fern trees grow in Mississippi. Puffing Billy is an old, preserved 2′6″-gauge (762 mm) steam railway that runs up from suburban Melbourne to Gembrook in the Dandenong Ranges. Yes, in Australia, which puts it rather a long way from where Casey Jones drove trains.
Casey's engine was a 2-8-0 that he saw in Chicago and requested. He was assigned to that 2-8-0.The 382 was not his regular engine but , he was filling in on the Cannon Ball since the regular engineer marked off.Had Casey obeyed his orders the wreck at Vaughn would have never happen. He should have slowed since he knew there was a flock of trains waiting at Vaughn as his order stated.
Was not a headon crash the fright train didn't make it all the way off to the siding. Fireman Sam said there was no warning tell his death in 1957 or '58
Casey's engine on the IC at the time of the accident wasn't an "eight wheeler" (4-4-0, actually called the American type) but a Ten Wheeler (4-6-0). The crash took place near Vaughan, Mississippi on April 30, 1900. When he threw his locomotive "in the hole" (reversing the drivers and hitting the air brakes) he actually reduced the train's speed from about 75 MPH to 35 MPH at impact- this saving the lives of his train's passengers .
I thought Casey Jones was an ambitious freight train engineer filling in for the regular engineer on the ICRR run to New Orleans. They departed late, and Jones was making up time to get to New Orleans "on the advertised". He struck a disabled train on the rails outside Vaughan, Mississippi. There was some controversy about whether or not the disable train had set flares to warn him, his surviving fireman said, no, the conductor of the other train said he did.
@DNatureofDTrain Many parts of some versions of the Casey Jones songs were pawned off of other popular train songs of the time. Even Casey Jones tune itself was originally wrote by Wallace Saunders to the tune of Jimmy Jones. All are invited to the CaseyJonesonline yahoogroup :) Museum owners and many Casey fans are there.
Your posting here is most impressive. If you don't already have a career in production somewhere .. either in film or music .. then I think you shold seriously consider moving over to working full-time in this direction .. your talent & skill are self-evident here (this is no suck-up .. I don't even know you .. it's just that your work here is v. impressive). P.S. - have you ever heard Gid Tanner & The Skillet Lickers' version of the "Casey Jones" song .. it dates from the 1920s & is v.v.g.
The fireman believed he was going 100 MPH at times but when he came into Vaughan he was going 70 MPH and maybe got down to to 35 before running into a caboose that was still on the main line. No one besides Casey Jones was killed. He was only 3 minutes behind schedule when he wrecked. He has been 1 hour and 30 minutes behind schedule when he started the run. This was caused by the train from Washington DC being late with the south bound mail. The trains would be fined for taking the mail through late. So blame the Federal Government and the mail for causing the wreck.
Sidney, WOAH! 100 MPH?? How fast was it going when his fireman jumped? Was it just before the collision and he was only going 35? Even so, that's still a very fast speed and, obviously, he lived. Wow. I wonder how badly he was hurt. And, did he really die so he could hold the brake and the whistle? There was no way to lock them so he could jump too?
If you read the real storie about casey jones you find out he was not a hero, casey had been disciplined 12 times on his rr record for rule violations. mostly for minor yard derailments,, also on the night of that wreck, a flagman named newberry did place 2 torpedo's on the rail to warn casey when the train ahead went into emergency and fouled the main line,also when newberry seen casey comming at 60 mph, gave casey the washout signal with his lantern and there was no response from casey or sim webb and newberry also said his whistle was not blowing as in the song, he just plowed into the standing train at tack speed, guarantee that if casey had survived that wreck he would have been called on the carpet and fired on the spot esp with his past record of discipline rule infractions, i work for a class 1 rr and you rear end another train your fired.
As a child my dad sang a song about Old Bill Jones who "bought himself an auto" and I have looked for this song for many years. When I heard the tune to Casey Jones I realized it was the same tune. Does anyone have the exact words to the song about Old Bill Jones? I can remember some but dad has passed and it might be lost. Too bad,
+Lewis Benton My dad (born in 1920) sang the same song to me and my siblings! "Old Bill Jones sold his cotton the other day, like a crazy fool threw his money away.Went up town in an old buckboard, came back home in a little black Ford" I haven't been able to find anything on the song, but I have the words written down.
Sim Webb did stand by his ironclad belief that Jones was not at all at fault. The ICC report says otherwise. The only chance Casey was in the right is if the train crews on the siding got their stories coordinated to hide any mistakes. No one can ever know. They say he barreled through track torpedo warnings and even a lantern thrown at the cab, before he reacted to a visual sighting of the red markers. The train crews scattered for the hills, such was the sound of the charging engine.
This is not at all what happened you may wont to look into it "" this was my great great Uncle and he was having to make the second trip of the day due to anouther engineer not showing up to work so him and his firemen took the train over after a almost 200 mile trip and was running about 50 minutes behind and then all hell broke loose he hit the end of a train on the left hand side of the track that had a broken air hose on a car. this is what happened in real life.. Loved the video just not the way it happened.
Hey - for the first time I heard this version - always thought Johnny Cash's or Boxcar Willies' version were the best - now I've my doubts - this is a v e r y g r e a t version - like it - but pity - it ends so abruptly - why??
I haven't heard this version before, pretty good!! All I ever heard growing up was the pervy version...you know, the dirty song about Casey Jones~~don't look it up because it is rather sickening and stupid. THIS is the most appropriate song honoring Mr. Casey Jones~Legendary Train Engineer...Thank you!! :)
Dear Allan Hirsch - a great COVER - but be so honest and add this small word to your headline - otherwise people could think you're one of these goddamed click-collector !
My dad worked for record companies in the 60's, when I was a kid.
He would bring home records to me. This was one of them.
It scared me for life.
I have wonderful memories of my Dad belting out this great song while playing his guitar... Love the photos.... well done! Thank you!
Many people think Casey Jones,although legendary,was as imaginary as Pecos Bill. Thank you for telling us the story showing that John Luther Jones was a true railroad engineer and for showing us Mr.Jones' tombstone.
Thanks for this -- My kid is playing this on the violin, and this was a great version to introduce him to the song & snapshot of American history. The words are very clear
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love this song
Fantastic song and the best version I’ve heard! Some inaccuracies but relates the legend very well!
This version of the song is far from the real history. He was running south with a passenger train not the "western mail". And there's no rain and flooding delaying him. Also he ran inside the caboose of tail of a freight train sticking out on the main line not "two locomotives going to bump". However, I still like it because that's what happened when Casey Jones becomes a legend of the railroad and the historical accuracy is no longer the most important thing.
Would have been nice to actually HEAR the song to its conclusion.
I believe your talking about the old #97 train wreck now that to my understanding was a mail train owned by southern railways.
This song is referenced in David Jones' "In Parenthesis'', a poem telling about his experiences in the trenches in World War I. The British sang this song on Christmas Morning 1915 to drown out the Germans when they sung a Christmas carol.
That train on a trestle that appears beginning about 0:33 seems oddly out of place. Could that be because I happen to recognize it as Puffing Billy? The plant life would seem to support that; I don't know that fern trees grow in Mississippi. Puffing Billy is an old, preserved 2′6″-gauge (762 mm) steam railway that runs up from suburban Melbourne to Gembrook in the Dandenong Ranges. Yes, in Australia, which puts it rather a long way from where Casey Jones drove trains.
Casey's engine was a 2-8-0 that he saw in Chicago and requested. He was assigned to that 2-8-0.The 382 was not his regular engine but , he was filling in on the Cannon Ball since the regular engineer marked off.Had Casey obeyed his orders the wreck at Vaughn would have never happen. He should have slowed since he knew there was a flock of trains waiting at Vaughn as his order stated.
They cut out the last bit of the song.
Was not a headon crash the fright train didn't make it all the way off to the siding.
Fireman Sam said there was no warning tell his death in 1957 or '58
Casey's engine on the IC at the time of the accident wasn't an "eight wheeler" (4-4-0, actually called the American type) but a Ten Wheeler (4-6-0). The crash took place near Vaughan, Mississippi on April 30, 1900.
When he threw his locomotive "in the hole" (reversing the drivers and hitting the air brakes) he actually reduced the train's speed from about 75 MPH to 35 MPH at impact- this saving the lives of his train's passengers .
I thought Casey Jones was an ambitious freight train engineer filling in for the regular engineer on the ICRR run to New Orleans. They departed late, and Jones was making up time to get to New Orleans "on the advertised". He struck a disabled train on the rails outside Vaughan, Mississippi. There was some controversy about whether or not the disable train had set flares to warn him, his surviving fireman said, no, the conductor of the other train said he did.
people said over 100mph
@DNatureofDTrain Many parts of some versions of the Casey Jones songs were pawned off of other popular train songs of the time. Even Casey Jones tune itself was originally wrote by Wallace Saunders to the tune of Jimmy Jones. All are invited to the CaseyJonesonline yahoogroup :) Museum owners and many Casey fans are there.
Which version is this by the way
I think this is the best version I've heard
Your posting here is most impressive. If you don't already have a career in production somewhere .. either in film or music .. then I think you shold seriously consider moving over to working full-time in this direction .. your talent & skill are self-evident here (this is no suck-up .. I don't even know you .. it's just that your work here is v. impressive). P.S. - have you ever heard Gid Tanner & The Skillet Lickers' version of the "Casey Jones" song .. it dates from the 1920s & is v.v.g.
I have a casey jones Railroad Spike that has GM&O and ICRR logos on top
CASEY JONES YOU BETTER, WATCH YOUR SPEED
The fireman believed he was going 100 MPH at times but when he came into Vaughan he was going 70 MPH and maybe got down to to 35 before running into a caboose that was still on the main line. No one besides Casey Jones was killed. He was only 3 minutes behind schedule when he wrecked. He has been 1 hour and 30 minutes behind schedule when he started the run. This was caused by the train from Washington DC being late with the south bound mail. The trains would be fined for taking the mail through late. So blame the Federal Government and the mail for causing the wreck.
Sidney, WOAH! 100 MPH?? How fast was it going when his fireman jumped? Was it just before the collision and he was only going 35? Even so, that's still a very fast speed and, obviously, he lived. Wow. I wonder how badly he was hurt.
And, did he really die so he could hold the brake and the whistle? There was no way to lock them so he could jump too?
@1RichardHunt
Howdy That's my recording from 1995 Al Hirsch A.K.A.
I love you mom
This is my version of the story and song, It is a take off of the ballad l that started in 1900. Research continues on the actual events.
love the song
If you read the real storie about casey jones you find out he was not a hero, casey had been disciplined 12 times on his rr record for rule violations. mostly for minor yard derailments,, also on the night of that wreck, a flagman named newberry did place 2 torpedo's on the rail to warn casey when the train ahead went into emergency and fouled the main line,also when newberry seen casey comming at 60 mph, gave casey the washout signal with his lantern and there was no response from casey or sim webb and newberry also said his whistle was not blowing as in the song, he just plowed into the standing train at tack speed, guarantee that if casey had survived that wreck he would have been called on the carpet and fired on the spot esp with his past record of discipline rule infractions, i work for a class 1 rr and you rear end another train your fired.
Hero in the sense that on his passenger train wreck, he was the only one who died.
As a child my dad sang a song about Old Bill Jones who "bought himself an auto" and I have looked for this song for many years. When I heard the tune to Casey Jones I realized it was the same tune. Does anyone have the exact words to the song about Old Bill Jones? I can remember some but dad has passed and it might be lost. Too bad,
+Lewis Benton My dad (born in 1920) sang the same song to me and my siblings! "Old Bill Jones sold his cotton the other day, like a crazy fool threw his money away.Went up town in an old buckboard, came back home in a little black Ford" I haven't been able to find anything on the song, but I have the words written down.
His real name was Clarence. He was called "Cayce" after that name of that Kentucky town.
why did the song stop suddenly?
@MasterOfTrains New Orleans Fast Mail was called like any fast moving trains the cannonball
Sim Webb did stand by his ironclad belief that Jones was not at all at fault. The ICC report says otherwise. The only chance Casey was in the right is if the train crews on the siding got their stories coordinated to hide any mistakes. No one can ever know. They say he barreled through track torpedo warnings and even a lantern thrown at the cab, before he reacted to a visual sighting of the red markers. The train crews scattered for the hills, such was the sound of the charging engine.
Who sings this song?
emerson scott larimer 1870-1948
This is not at all what happened you may wont to look into it "" this was my great great Uncle and he was having to make the second trip of the day due to anouther engineer not showing up to work so him and his firemen took the train over after a almost 200 mile trip and was running about 50 minutes behind and then all hell broke loose he hit the end of a train on the left hand side of the track that had a broken air hose on a car.
this is what happened in real life..
Loved the video just not the way it happened.
what was your great uncle's name and what did he go by? that's an interesting story,
Hey - for the first time I heard this version - always thought Johnny Cash's or Boxcar Willies' version were the best - now I've my doubts - this is a v e r y g r e a t version - like it - but pity - it ends so abruptly - why??
Same...
I like this song
chasles a larimer 1911-2002
emerson scott larimer 1780-1948
The music is originiley by jhoney cash
casey jones youd better watch your speed
Ray C LARIMER 1930-2016
like train
Who performed this version of this song.
I haven't heard this version before, pretty good!! All I ever heard growing up was the pervy version...you know, the dirty song about Casey Jones~~don't look it up because it is rather sickening and stupid. THIS is the most appropriate song honoring Mr. Casey Jones~Legendary Train Engineer...Thank you!! :)
VERY GOOD
@sirg31 Mr. Jones's wife requested no one to sing that verse she found it very hurtful and offensive.
Who sings this version of the song do you know?
good song
I like train
It's a shame that this version of the song even exists. So many facts are wrong (and not even close).
who sung this song?
@lauriebooth Yes he was look up Casey Jones Water Valley Museum that is the most complete informative site about the truth of "Casey"
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he only drove 8 whellers he drove a 2-8-0 whene he crashed and befor he crashed
Ooops...that was Al Hale
YOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO
this is not how i learned this song. ):
for youdad
I know this story
Dear Allan Hirsch -
a great COVER - but be so honest and add this small word to your headline - otherwise people could think you're one of these goddamed click-collector !
yeet
my dad like this song
So?gets the F outs the way!
when he was driving that train was he high on cocaine
cocaine
#poor382
SCAB.
love this song
@1RichardHunt
Howdy That's my recording from 1995 Al Hirsch A.K.A. Alleyoop
love this song
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